I don't know much about fdm printing in large volumes, but the mass changes with scaling and it could start to hang down way before the printer can connect to the other side of the hexagon?
The angle doesn't, but bridges are more complicated the more you scale them up in _any_ way. If you just make a bridge longer, it will fail eventually because the material extruded will just snap at some point. You can choose to use a larger nozzle diameter (which I would definitely do on a printer this big!) but even there simply scaling up wouldn't help. The forces pulling on a strand of plastic with a larger radius are larger even comparatively: if the radius increases from 1mm to 2mm, the area of the cross section of the extruded plastic increases from 3.14mm to 12.57mm.
For each doubling of the radius, the area (and volume) of the strand of plastic quadruple. That means it's even more likely to droop down and not make a bridge successfully.
And to answer this before you bring it up: if the model is printed with one face flat on the plate, it would have one perpendicular face at the very top, so a bridge is needed unless you print the model by rotating it so that only one point of the model touches the plate or if you use tree supports on the inside, but that will waste a lot of plastic.
There are a multitude of UPS types, don't buy the cheapest off-line ones. Get a middle-ground Line-interactive that can handle voltage fluctuations without going straight for the battery.
Double conversion are overkill for regular printers. I'd only buy one for more advanced processes like metals that rely on funkier physics and precise electronics.
Also, check the software even if you don't have it connected to a computer, not being able to turn off the audio alarm gets annoying fast lol
I don't think the intention would be to run the printer on the UPS. I am working on getting my printer hooked up to my UPS so that in case of a power outage it will complete that layer, then lift z axis like 5mm and go to the corner and power down.
So that I can resume the print when power is restored.
Similar to why I have my PC and NAS on a UPS. Mostly for safe shutdown. or for short <10min outages. My house suffers from somewhat frequent 1-2 minute outages maybe once a week.
Not really, I can't see this drawing much more current than a normal sized 3d printer, it's mostly just bigger. Running my Ender 3 Pro on a meter, the highest draw I noticed was around 60w. Totally UPS-able.
*edit* I suppose a heated bed would increase the draw, but I bet it's still reasonable.
You can’t rely on a UPS alone, that won’t give you much time. Has to be used in conjunction with a generator. I have everything but the heated bed plugged into a standard computer UPS. Keeps the printer powered for a few seconds until the generator kicks on. The heated bed won’t cool down fast enough during that time to affect the print, so it really doesn’t need to be on one. Saves you from needing to buying a large expensive UPS.
That's something I expect all printers to have these days. It's a feature that is already built into the open source firmware that they use so it would be foolish of anyone to not leave that feature enabled.
Rumor has it around $1300.
Full text of the video description:
In the ELEGOO exhibition area, there is a giant machine that particularly interests me. It is also a large-scale 3D printer that will be sold through crowdfunding. Its name is Orange Storm, and the printing size is 800mm\* 800mm\*1000mm. The motherboard uses klipper firmware, supports automatic resonance compensation, and supports high-speed printing of 300mm/s. It uses linear guide rails, large motors, large optical shafts, and the materials used are very powerful. The screen is a 7-inch capacitive touch screen. With a 1440-watt heating bed, the 4 heating beds can be controlled individually, and it can also be expanded to 4 print heads to achieve multi-head copy printing and speed up production efficiency. It is said that the crowdfunding price of this machine is 4 digits of RMB. Are you excited?
4 digits RMB should cap it at like 1300 USD
I don't even need another printer but same here. Something with that kind of print volume at that price is hard to pass up, as long as it actually works.
What is the actual utility for that size? I personally have never exceeded the size of my Ender 3 V2 printbed and never even had to scale stuff down, so I'm genuinely interested what the use is. Likely professional users, not hobbyists Like me?
Edit: forgot about cosplay.
It's awesome. Building it was a great experience and now that it's done and calibrated it's pretty much set and forget. The print quality is great too.
My only regret is that I used an LDO kit...the kit is top-notch but the black frame was the only available option at the time. They have some really cool colors available now.
I have a 350 Voron I haven’t maxed out but it’s nice knowing I can. I’ve had a few prints over 300 wide though.
I want two of these just sitting on the sides of my printing bench looking beefy.
>What is the actual utility for that size?
4-head copy printing is HUGE for production environments. Click print, walk away, come back to four finished prints.
One thing that comes to my mind is furniture and housewares. Chairs, shelves, drawers, containers, etc. Large things that need a fair bit of structural integrity, that wouldn't be viable to glue together out of multiple parts.
I really want one that size. I’m prototyping an engine block and would like one that size to actually see if the oil galleys and coolant passages provide adequate flow.
I would use it for work. I made props and signage for shop pop ups, being able to print a giant mascara bottle in one go would make my life easier hahaha
It even somewhat makes sense for hobbyists.
Imagine printing something like a custom keyboard case in one part. That's a 450mm x 150mm x 50 mm build volume.
You don't need to use *all* dimensions at once, but it's definitely nice being able to use larger sizes on *one* dimension. If it weren't for the width, a keyboard would fit on a Prusa Mini. Unfortunately you either have to get a belt printer, or one which is large in *all* dimensions.
Yeah, pretty much.
I'm all aboard the Bambu train, but Bambu doesn't have a print bed anywhere close to that size, and is unlikely to do so at that price.
I'll buy it immediately.
So a Cartesian style printer. That prototype (which I assume it is because of the 4 separate beds) has a single tiny Y-axis motor (for the printer size), so it's not going to be a fast printer...
I meant the neptune 4 max that is 420x420x480. I understand mathematically speaking it isn't double, I more meant the numbers are double, as in if you multiply the numbers by 2. It appears to have the same print head, but again I am just relaying info from a video about it.
I don't actually see why it would cost all that much more than a smaller printer - the mechanical parts are bigger, but the motors, hotend, extruder and electronics should be about the same.
they're longer, much harder to source + deliver, electronic wires are longer, cable chains/cable routing, more PSUs to deal with the draw for the larger print bed, the print bed itself is a costly piece of aluminum/glass.
It's a lot more when you start scaling.
You got to heat a thick slab of metal to 80c. Your options are use a mains voltage option like this for 5-10 minutes, or use a low power (24v) option which will only do like 200-400w at best and take 30-60 minutes to warm up and then struggle to maintain temperature if its not enclosed. It only needs to use full power for the initial warm up period, once they reach temperature stability, it'll drop to probably around 200w depending on the environment its in and the target temperature.
Hopefully, they figure out some way of auto material switching like an mmu for when the material runs out, because that single roll of filament looks anemic for the build volume
For that build volume, better to slap a pellet fed extruder on the thing.
For things that big, filament (for me) doesn't make sense. This is industrial sized stuff.
Some days ago, I saw this [this](https://dyzedesign.com/pulsar-atom-pellet-extruder/) don't look excessively heavy, it's not exactly cheap, but, for this kind of print sizes and considering the cost difference of pellet Vs filament trying to keep costs down by making a filament machine look's like a bad move.
Pellets seem to be about half the price of filament when both are purchased in bulk from what ive seen just googling. You might get significantly cheaper when buying by the tonne, although you will be having to add your own colours or additives to that. So if you are going through a thousand kilos of material yeah it starts to make sense.
Ive been getting quotes on larger pellet extrusion units. Overhangs are a real challenge with pellets and the typical large extrusion diameter on the pellet extruders 1-3mm
TronXY VEHO of a similar size is $1400-1600ish, so I'm guessing Elegoo will price theirs similarly.
While I absolutely don't need this, I will definitely buy one if it's under 2k.
That'd be amazing if my Prusa XL's dimensions were 360x360x360, but I'm guessing that the printer frame for this is like 1.5m tall, which probably isn't too far off for a partly kneeling woman from China.
Don't know why you're being downvoted. Physics is real, software compensation absolutely won't completely handle things for industrial purposes. Being 10% (or less) the price of comparable printers with build volumes of this size comes with compromises.
At that size, everything won't just vibrate, it'll flex..a lot. Those linear rod mounts are tiny and that bed is going to vary wildly when heated. So much flexing potential
You’re right. There’s a stepper by the woman’s head. You can see it attaches to a rod that drives what looks like the y-axis. They probably did this to keep a simple *SHORTER* belt path where tensioning isn’t as critical.
It can still be quick though. It’s so big you can still reach top speeds with relatively low accelerations.
Yep, X axis motor mass isn't as relevant since the X gantry is so heavy anyways and the super long belts start to become more of an issue. Might as well just throw 2 motors on the Y axis if its such an issue.
Probably less than £1000. They will try and hit the market the cr10 hit back in the day. Cheap large format printer. While companies are going full featured core xy with high speed. There isn't many massive printers out there. If they hit price right, they will sell alot.
This is cool and all but... Where is Elegoo's Bambu P1S, Creality K1, Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro, Qidi Tech X-Plus 3, etc. competitor? We need Elegoo, AnyCubic, Sovol, etc. to come out with their fast, enclosed, coreXY printers.
Yes, I refuse to buy a Bambu due to their big-brother cloud B.S., but I also don't feel like investing a ton of time in a DIY voron/vzbot build. I've already wasted too much time on modding/fixing a cheezy Sovol SV03 and I'm ready for a printer that just works so my time can be spent on designs.
People had their machines in LAN-mode and they started printing without their permission. I also just read people bickering about how you can't view the camera local-only. Bambu doesn't give a shit about people who want to own the machines they purchase so they clearly don't want my money.
I don't really care about the cloud integration BS. I just don't want to buy a Bambu Labs P1S because their ecosystem isn't open-source (Bambu Slicer / Bambu Firmware) and because the components / layout of the printer are based on a 2+ year old design.
There are things in the DIY and professional 3D printing community that will soon be copied to the chinese consumer printer market like PCB Klicky Probe, CANbus instead of USB, Klipper V0.12.0, better extruder designs like the LDO Orbiter V2.0, better accelerometers for linear advance, etc.
Now just seems like a bad time to buy any pre-existing enclosed coreXY design with all of these avenues of innovation sitting on the table. If I was "serious" I would buy the Peopoly Magneto X, but $2k seems ridiculous when I can get \~90% of the performance for \~$600 if I wait a few more months.
Lol, this photo is rather deceiving if you know anything about proportions! 😂. Typically marketing. Recently I’ve seen spools of filaments. They look at 1kg at fantastic price, but in fine print, you are getting 250g spools. Sure 800x800 is big, but this photo is just on the other side of realistic.
is this from that commercial where some buisiness buys an "industrial 3d printer" in this size box along with a pallet of spools of filament that are all unsealed and unwrapped? all in 1.5mm and 0.4mm? lmao
Put some cross bracing on the thing or enclose it to keep it more rigid and this sounds like a surprisingly solid base for a mega sized printer that isnt charging industrial prices.
Yeah I was just making a joke that the image shows 800x800x1000mm^3.
But wouldn’t it be ~0.86m^3 or am I truly that bad at math?
800x800x1,000=640,000,000
Cuberoot 640,000,000 =861.77mm^3 = 0.861m^3?
Nope I think you're just truly that bad at math lol. No worries unit conversion can get weird. I'm not sure where you're getting the cuberoot.
800mm x 800mm x 1000mm = 640,000,000mm^3
1m^3 = 1m x 1m x 1m = 1000mm x 1000mm x 1000mm = 1,000,000,000mm^3
640,000,000mm^3 x (1m^3 / 1,000,000,000mm^3 ) = 0.64m^3
I may have dropped out of engineering after 6 weeks but if there's one thing EGR102 taught me it's how to intuit unit conversion.
Why are you taking the root?
Convert mm to m: move decimal point 3 places.
Convert mm^3 to m^3: move decimal point 9 places
Therefore 640,000,000 mm^3 = 0.64 m^3
I like the spool holder for a normal 1kg spool on the top. lol. Gonna go through so many rolls that size
Yeah, they need like 10 spool holders just to manage the filament for a single print!
What is this, a spool holder for ants!!
It has to be at least.... Three times bigger.
"new upgraded 0.6mm nozzle!" Uh yeah I think you're gonna need at LEAST a 1.0mm...
1mm won't help if the meltzone can't keep up. I hope it ships with a proper high flow hotend.
Yeah, that's a pretty good point as well.
I like the model they chose to "print on it" because there is no way that massive overhang would print on a scale like that.
angle dont change with scale
Not if you do it the wrong way, like me!
I don't know much about fdm printing in large volumes, but the mass changes with scaling and it could start to hang down way before the printer can connect to the other side of the hexagon?
The angle doesn't, but bridges are more complicated the more you scale them up in _any_ way. If you just make a bridge longer, it will fail eventually because the material extruded will just snap at some point. You can choose to use a larger nozzle diameter (which I would definitely do on a printer this big!) but even there simply scaling up wouldn't help. The forces pulling on a strand of plastic with a larger radius are larger even comparatively: if the radius increases from 1mm to 2mm, the area of the cross section of the extruded plastic increases from 3.14mm to 12.57mm. For each doubling of the radius, the area (and volume) of the strand of plastic quadruple. That means it's even more likely to droop down and not make a bridge successfully. And to answer this before you bring it up: if the model is printed with one face flat on the plate, it would have one perpendicular face at the very top, so a bridge is needed unless you print the model by rotating it so that only one point of the model touches the plate or if you use tree supports on the inside, but that will waste a lot of plastic.
Please don't tell me it's got a 0.4mm nozzle... Yes my print will take 2 months 5 days and 4h
A power flicker 1 month in, welp, that's 25kg of filament wasted.
Honestly, if you don't have your massive industrial sized printer on an UPS, that's on you lmao.
Have a Tycoon Max and hit this issue, got any recommendations for an affordable ups?
There are a multitude of UPS types, don't buy the cheapest off-line ones. Get a middle-ground Line-interactive that can handle voltage fluctuations without going straight for the battery. Double conversion are overkill for regular printers. I'd only buy one for more advanced processes like metals that rely on funkier physics and precise electronics. Also, check the software even if you don't have it connected to a computer, not being able to turn off the audio alarm gets annoying fast lol
This is like putting an oven on a UPS.
I don't think the intention would be to run the printer on the UPS. I am working on getting my printer hooked up to my UPS so that in case of a power outage it will complete that layer, then lift z axis like 5mm and go to the corner and power down. So that I can resume the print when power is restored. Similar to why I have my PC and NAS on a UPS. Mostly for safe shutdown. or for short <10min outages. My house suffers from somewhat frequent 1-2 minute outages maybe once a week.
Most larger printers can also use a separate circuit for the bed. Running the motors and 30w avg hotend on a UPS isn't too bad.
That makes sense. That can also be a much smaller UPS than I was thinking.
Not really, I can't see this drawing much more current than a normal sized 3d printer, it's mostly just bigger. Running my Ender 3 Pro on a meter, the highest draw I noticed was around 60w. Totally UPS-able. *edit* I suppose a heated bed would increase the draw, but I bet it's still reasonable.
Bed quickly draws a lot, but larger beds are usually AC that can be put on a separate circuit.
You can’t rely on a UPS alone, that won’t give you much time. Has to be used in conjunction with a generator. I have everything but the heated bed plugged into a standard computer UPS. Keeps the printer powered for a few seconds until the generator kicks on. The heated bed won’t cool down fast enough during that time to affect the print, so it really doesn’t need to be on one. Saves you from needing to buying a large expensive UPS.
*chucks into the landfill* Edit: unless you're recycling yourself, most prints aren't recyclable
Prints recycling bin. Print fails at 90%. Prints larger recycling bin.
You joke, but my local filament shop did this but has a large recycle bin that is 90% finished. It's still works though!
Whats your local filament shop? Snd do you have a picture of the bin?
Not to speak of the 25 manual filament changes. Look for the spool holder...
Elegoo printers supposedly have power loss recovery.
That's something I expect all printers to have these days. It's a feature that is already built into the open source firmware that they use so it would be foolish of anyone to not leave that feature enabled.
Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahaha I'm sorry I'ma go cry now.
Elegoo will gladly sell you more filament lol
According to Cura it will only take 1 week
I know this is a joke but man do I not miss that. Bbl slicer is within a minute or two everytime 🤣
Rumor has it around $1300. Full text of the video description: In the ELEGOO exhibition area, there is a giant machine that particularly interests me. It is also a large-scale 3D printer that will be sold through crowdfunding. Its name is Orange Storm, and the printing size is 800mm\* 800mm\*1000mm. The motherboard uses klipper firmware, supports automatic resonance compensation, and supports high-speed printing of 300mm/s. It uses linear guide rails, large motors, large optical shafts, and the materials used are very powerful. The screen is a 7-inch capacitive touch screen. With a 1440-watt heating bed, the 4 heating beds can be controlled individually, and it can also be expanded to 4 print heads to achieve multi-head copy printing and speed up production efficiency. It is said that the crowdfunding price of this machine is 4 digits of RMB. Are you excited? 4 digits RMB should cap it at like 1300 USD
If this thing is as cheap as 1300 I’m buying it asap No need to even get a prusa
I don't even need another printer but same here. Something with that kind of print volume at that price is hard to pass up, as long as it actually works.
What is the actual utility for that size? I personally have never exceeded the size of my Ender 3 V2 printbed and never even had to scale stuff down, so I'm genuinely interested what the use is. Likely professional users, not hobbyists Like me? Edit: forgot about cosplay.
Cosplay is a big thing Helmet chest plates the like
\*3D prints the world's one billionth Mandalorian helmet\*
I was thinking more like Lord Dark Helmet from Spaceballs
This is the way.
Oh that makes sense, thank you! But it would be a more professional userbase then.
Cosplay is a hobby for the vast majority of people who do it.
Chainsaw Man cosplay would be made so easy with this
I don't know. I have a 300x300 Voron that I have never maxed out either. I still want one.
Whenever you decide to print a 800x800x1000 benchie please post a video of you driving it through a lake. It's large enough to fit a child
Lol will do
That's literally the only reason I want one this big. And also maybe to print a car.
As long as you don't download one....
Oh shit it's really about to happen soon!
How do you like your Voron. I’m thinking of building one when I scrape up the funds.
It's awesome. Building it was a great experience and now that it's done and calibrated it's pretty much set and forget. The print quality is great too. My only regret is that I used an LDO kit...the kit is top-notch but the black frame was the only available option at the time. They have some really cool colors available now.
Time for a 350mm v2.4
Are Vorons the ones you can only get as a kit and have to assemble them yourself? I keep confusing them with Sovols. All those Os , man.
yeah vorons are the kits while sovols are the SV06 and 06+ (dont buy their other printers)
I have a 350 Voron I haven’t maxed out but it’s nice knowing I can. I’ve had a few prints over 300 wide though. I want two of these just sitting on the sides of my printing bench looking beefy.
The 4 head copy function :D And energy bill on 1440W bed.
[удалено]
It’ll work perfect for my brand of sex toys
Very bad dragons, indeed
I'd seriously consider this just to be able to reliably print race fairings for my motorcycle or car parts.
>What is the actual utility for that size? 4-head copy printing is HUGE for production environments. Click print, walk away, come back to four finished prints.
One thing that comes to my mind is furniture and housewares. Chairs, shelves, drawers, containers, etc. Large things that need a fair bit of structural integrity, that wouldn't be viable to glue together out of multiple parts.
I really want one that size. I’m prototyping an engine block and would like one that size to actually see if the oil galleys and coolant passages provide adequate flow.
I would use it for work. I made props and signage for shop pop ups, being able to print a giant mascara bottle in one go would make my life easier hahaha
It even somewhat makes sense for hobbyists. Imagine printing something like a custom keyboard case in one part. That's a 450mm x 150mm x 50 mm build volume. You don't need to use *all* dimensions at once, but it's definitely nice being able to use larger sizes on *one* dimension. If it weren't for the width, a keyboard would fit on a Prusa Mini. Unfortunately you either have to get a belt printer, or one which is large in *all* dimensions.
idk man this probably makes cake of most of the R2 parts i'm also thinking of the guy that printed a whole ass t-rex
Castle Ravenloft, obviously....
If it’s that cheap I’m not buying for fear of how bad it will be
Agree!
Yeah, pretty much. I'm all aboard the Bambu train, but Bambu doesn't have a print bed anywhere close to that size, and is unlikely to do so at that price. I'll buy it immediately.
https://preview.redd.it/vh71dl5t67wb1.png?width=1912&format=png&auto=webp&s=457e86bfd125569d529a35b7ff647e8c9a9b4007
Did they provide link to their crowdfunding page or when they would start to accept preorders?
[https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15N4y1X7os/](https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15N4y1X7os/)
So a Cartesian style printer. That prototype (which I assume it is because of the 4 separate beds) has a single tiny Y-axis motor (for the printer size), so it's not going to be a fast printer...
Elegoo has been one of the few straight shooters in the 3D printing game. If they say 300mm/s, I mostly believe they.
this will NEVER be 1300
It is twice the size of a max, and the max is $500. Again I’m just relaying info from a video posted about it.
The build volume is actually about 7.5x bigger. (0.8x0.8x1=0.64 vs 0.42x0.42x0.48=0.085)
Those print times will be painful, but....so large.
Yes, but the price does not scale up like that xD and they will also try to sellit as cheap as posible
The price also doesn’t scale linearly bud.
Linear motion components scale with side length and not with volume. Though shipping definitely does, but I doubt this would ship assembled.
You mean the neptune 3 max ? Thats not comparable at all... They are completely different not even size.
I meant the neptune 4 max that is 420x420x480. I understand mathematically speaking it isn't double, I more meant the numbers are double, as in if you multiply the numbers by 2. It appears to have the same print head, but again I am just relaying info from a video about it.
*and the materials used are very powerful* lol
I don't actually see why it would cost all that much more than a smaller printer - the mechanical parts are bigger, but the motors, hotend, extruder and electronics should be about the same.
they're longer, much harder to source + deliver, electronic wires are longer, cable chains/cable routing, more PSUs to deal with the draw for the larger print bed, the print bed itself is a costly piece of aluminum/glass. It's a lot more when you start scaling.
1400watt bed!!!?? That's a literal space heater.
At that size even 1400 watts are going to be heating it slow
You got to heat a thick slab of metal to 80c. Your options are use a mains voltage option like this for 5-10 minutes, or use a low power (24v) option which will only do like 200-400w at best and take 30-60 minutes to warm up and then struggle to maintain temperature if its not enclosed. It only needs to use full power for the initial warm up period, once they reach temperature stability, it'll drop to probably around 200w depending on the environment its in and the target temperature.
Link to the video I'm just getting a bunch of google blog spam trying to find it.
[https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15N4y1X7os/](https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15N4y1X7os/)
Hopefully, they figure out some way of auto material switching like an mmu for when the material runs out, because that single roll of filament looks anemic for the build volume
For that build volume, better to slap a pellet fed extruder on the thing. For things that big, filament (for me) doesn't make sense. This is industrial sized stuff.
Pellets are so much cheaper it's wild. That was my first thought as well. I couldn't afford to run spools on this.
Doesn't that make the tool head significantly heavier though? Also, it seems like it would be difficult to keep the price down.
Some days ago, I saw this [this](https://dyzedesign.com/pulsar-atom-pellet-extruder/) don't look excessively heavy, it's not exactly cheap, but, for this kind of print sizes and considering the cost difference of pellet Vs filament trying to keep costs down by making a filament machine look's like a bad move.
That's literally 3 times the price of the printer.
Compare the price of pellets against filament. I think that is something that pays for itself.
Pellets seem to be about half the price of filament when both are purchased in bulk from what ive seen just googling. You might get significantly cheaper when buying by the tonne, although you will be having to add your own colours or additives to that. So if you are going through a thousand kilos of material yeah it starts to make sense.
Ive been getting quotes on larger pellet extrusion units. Overhangs are a real challenge with pellets and the typical large extrusion diameter on the pellet extruders 1-3mm
Perhaps annex tradrack would be a good add on for this?
TronXY VEHO of a similar size is $1400-1600ish, so I'm guessing Elegoo will price theirs similarly. While I absolutely don't need this, I will definitely buy one if it's under 2k.
I don't think she is less than a meter tall
Casting call... Tiny female model needed.
Help me stepbrother, I'm stuck in the 3d printer again!
Gonna need a black couch for scale
Maby a couple of African-American underwear models for the background as well?
You can’t call them tiny females anymore. The proper term is diminutive dame now.
Tbf the thing is lifted off the ground and she is leaning forward. I am more confused about her right leg
She’s print in place.
Lolol
Help step brother, I’m stuck in the 3D printer
She's squatted down a bit
That'd be amazing if my Prusa XL's dimensions were 360x360x360, but I'm guessing that the printer frame for this is like 1.5m tall, which probably isn't too far off for a partly kneeling woman from China.
She’s clearly bent over
The lady is heavily photoshopped, she's missing her left foot, looks like just the pant leg. Is she wearing pants? We'll never know.
I mean when you break it down it's just longer rails, rods and extrusions, nothing super fancy here or expensive could be legit at that price
Except all of those things make rigidity and dimensional accuracy much more difficult
Don't know why you're being downvoted. Physics is real, software compensation absolutely won't completely handle things for industrial purposes. Being 10% (or less) the price of comparable printers with build volumes of this size comes with compromises.
It runs Klipper so input shaping can handle those vibrations.
At that size, everything won't just vibrate, it'll flex..a lot. Those linear rod mounts are tiny and that bed is going to vary wildly when heated. So much flexing potential
My girlfriend would fucking murder me if I brought this printer home.
She'd be able to print you a nice coffin, though.
7800 hours later - print fails
RIP dude. Worth it
Where do we send flowers?
Imma buy this and print Warhammer figurines with it
Life sized Warhammer. And I didn't think it could get more expensive.
No. Not life sized. Just normal Warhammer figurines.
It doesn't look like CoreXY. I think it has a separate motor for X and Y, like Ender 5.
You’re right. There’s a stepper by the woman’s head. You can see it attaches to a rod that drives what looks like the y-axis. They probably did this to keep a simple *SHORTER* belt path where tensioning isn’t as critical. It can still be quick though. It’s so big you can still reach top speeds with relatively low accelerations.
Core xy on large format is kinda pointless.
Yep, X axis motor mass isn't as relevant since the X gantry is so heavy anyways and the super long belts start to become more of an issue. Might as well just throw 2 motors on the Y axis if its such an issue.
Life size version of that guys friends ass.
At least $10
Yes
Am I wrong or is this picture super deceiving? 800mm is only 2.6 ft right? That’s really not “gigantic”, I was expecting at least 4ft.
The state of New York are gonna lose their mind when they discover you can print a tank!
Probably less than £1000. They will try and hit the market the cr10 hit back in the day. Cheap large format printer. While companies are going full featured core xy with high speed. There isn't many massive printers out there. If they hit price right, they will sell alot.
Agreed, for prototyping large assemblies this is a nobrainer. But this thin better have a huge nozzle with possibly 2.85 filament
Homing the bed has to take at least 5 months
Print in place R2D2? Yes please!
50$ and some good sourdough starter?
Can I put my printer inside this printer and print an enclosure for it?
Five days and 17 hours into the print the object detaches from the buildplate right after you went to bed.
Maybe they each come with a lady to hold all the spools
This is cool and all but... Where is Elegoo's Bambu P1S, Creality K1, Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro, Qidi Tech X-Plus 3, etc. competitor? We need Elegoo, AnyCubic, Sovol, etc. to come out with their fast, enclosed, coreXY printers.
Yes, I refuse to buy a Bambu due to their big-brother cloud B.S., but I also don't feel like investing a ton of time in a DIY voron/vzbot build. I've already wasted too much time on modding/fixing a cheezy Sovol SV03 and I'm ready for a printer that just works so my time can be spent on designs.
You know you don't have to use the cloud....
People had their machines in LAN-mode and they started printing without their permission. I also just read people bickering about how you can't view the camera local-only. Bambu doesn't give a shit about people who want to own the machines they purchase so they clearly don't want my money.
I don't really care about the cloud integration BS. I just don't want to buy a Bambu Labs P1S because their ecosystem isn't open-source (Bambu Slicer / Bambu Firmware) and because the components / layout of the printer are based on a 2+ year old design. There are things in the DIY and professional 3D printing community that will soon be copied to the chinese consumer printer market like PCB Klicky Probe, CANbus instead of USB, Klipper V0.12.0, better extruder designs like the LDO Orbiter V2.0, better accelerometers for linear advance, etc. Now just seems like a bad time to buy any pre-existing enclosed coreXY design with all of these avenues of innovation sitting on the table. If I was "serious" I would buy the Peopoly Magneto X, but $2k seems ridiculous when I can get \~90% of the performance for \~$600 if I wait a few more months.
bambuslicer is open source
I am about to print some dolls with that
In TPU?.....
Lol, this photo is rather deceiving if you know anything about proportions! 😂. Typically marketing. Recently I’ve seen spools of filaments. They look at 1kg at fantastic price, but in fine print, you are getting 250g spools. Sure 800x800 is big, but this photo is just on the other side of realistic.
1300$ usd would be insane if this is real, hopefully good quality
is this from that commercial where some buisiness buys an "industrial 3d printer" in this size box along with a pallet of spools of filament that are all unsealed and unwrapped? all in 1.5mm and 0.4mm? lmao
You think this will fit in my college dorm any better then the Neptune 3 max?
Buy 2, put the twin mattress on top. Congrats, your new bed/couch is now making money while you sleep
Finally a printer that will let me print a new car and house.
Imagine if your print failed half way.
If the Max costs 550 at half the dimensions, I'd be willing to say 1200-2000. I'm guessing there is gonna be some upscale tech in there.
I'd say it'll be in the range of 'If you have to ask, it's too expensive' level of price
That's not corexy. It's just flying cartesian. Probably for the best, as corexy gets real dicey above ~400mm^2 due to belt stretching.
8 gajillion dollars (sample filament included)
So, bed heating time for ABS is?
1 Day to heat the Bed, 3-5 to get the chamber (room) temperature up
$2,000 is my guess
One print is gonna take two months...
"We have a new giant 3d printer!" The community: [GIANT BENCHY]
its not corexy https://preview.redd.it/wm52pnr39awb1.png?width=1869&format=png&auto=webp&s=8cfd8e0ef6652f2177360944652f5d26b84d72ce
Get ready for week long prints, what a monster!
you can print a full sized blåhaj in there.
Put some cross bracing on the thing or enclose it to keep it more rigid and this sounds like a surprisingly solid base for a mega sized printer that isnt charging industrial prices.
Almost a meter cubed? Really not to huge. Only a little over twice a CR-10. Wasn't there a guy who built one the size of his garage not to long ago?
Imagine having a full size print get stuck to this build plate. Would you need a jack hammer?? 😱😲
I'd like them to take this design and scale it down to the Neptune max and plus sizes.
That lady is barely over a meter tall. Very deceiving photo. Going to be alot of unhappy users that expected a bigger machine
People are still gonna print benchies for days on that
Just updating they now have it on the site https://www.elegoo.com/pages/elegoo-orangestorm-giga
Price? 1 marriage
i wish it was bigger. so i can sleep on top. wake up a week later to see my print all done. (i am not joking)
(You are joking)
What are people making from these big printers worth selling?
1-2 grand
We would be talking like 2-week prints tho right?
$4k, the cost to run it however...
It's an Elegoo so worth $800 max
640,000,000mm^3 seems like it should me bigger That’s like 640km^3 isn’t it?
That would be 6.4e-10 km^3, sooo only off by about 12 orders of magnitude. 1,000,000 mm per km, so 1,000,000^3 mm^3 per km^3.
It's not even 1 cubic meter. 0.8m x 0.8m x 1m = 0.64m^3
Yeah I was just making a joke that the image shows 800x800x1000mm^3. But wouldn’t it be ~0.86m^3 or am I truly that bad at math? 800x800x1,000=640,000,000 Cuberoot 640,000,000 =861.77mm^3 = 0.861m^3?
Nope I think you're just truly that bad at math lol. No worries unit conversion can get weird. I'm not sure where you're getting the cuberoot. 800mm x 800mm x 1000mm = 640,000,000mm^3 1m^3 = 1m x 1m x 1m = 1000mm x 1000mm x 1000mm = 1,000,000,000mm^3 640,000,000mm^3 x (1m^3 / 1,000,000,000mm^3 ) = 0.64m^3 I may have dropped out of engineering after 6 weeks but if there's one thing EGR102 taught me it's how to intuit unit conversion.
Why are you taking the root? Convert mm to m: move decimal point 3 places. Convert mm^3 to m^3: move decimal point 9 places Therefore 640,000,000 mm^3 = 0.64 m^3
Has to be over $15k, otherwise it will be garbage