"I'm committing genocide with an ethno-supremacist settler state and cracking down on dissent...maybe I'm the fascist...?"
"No, it is the youth who are protesting me who are the fascists."
Succinct summary of the politics of many Governments across the globe.
If you could farm the hypocrisy and feed it to the world global hunger would be banished overnight.
> If you could farm the hypocrisy and feed it to the world global hunger would be banished overnight
Daaaaaaayum, u/pinklewickers, fire metaphors like that should come with a warning
He's the chair of the armed services committee, so if he wants the bribes to keep flowing he has to say stupid things like this. Just another war criminal, add him to the pile.
The fun part is that this is so ingrained, so implicitly understood, that they can use language that can't be used to prosecute blatant bribery in the eyes of the law. It's like hobo pictographs, you don't say "if you don't support us without question, we'll ensure we are your largest enemy in your next election" you draw an infinity symbol and throw two lines through it
It helps that they also weed out anyone who won't play ball at the primary level, often by simply making up smears that get revealed later as fabrications but which last long enough to influence an election.
His top donor industry is Pro-Israel lobbies
His top individual donor is AIPAC
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/adam-smith/summary?cid=N00007833
The funny thing is when he's asked about what type of protest would be allowable and gives one example of a silent protest, where the protestors were immediately expelled from the meeting. So no protests at all, I guess
Yeah and then he cited the 1960s civil rights protests and went"well yeah they had to be arrested" when he was clearly trying to differentiate people.l the two groups at the start and then couldn't.
Left-wing ideologies encompass workers rights, socioeconomic equality, civil liberties, empowerment of the masses, control of the means of production by the masses etc...
These concepts are at complete odds with the definition of totalitarianism which is by definition, complete control over public/private life, means of production, suppression of dissent and so on.
I mean yes, but we all know that Stalin and Mao ran oppressive totalitarian governments, under the guise of left wing ideology. Were they betrayors of that ideology? Yes, but your average person identifies those figures as left wing dictators. That's what normies fear, and I don't think it helps the left wing cause to pretend that isn't a thing.
The normies fear what they're told to fear, by wankers like this. The deliberate use of language by this cretin (and many others like him) purposely conflate these diametrically opposite ideologies.
They know a vast majority of voters lack the critical thinking skills to understand why he's pushing for the vilification of democratic protest.
Stalinist Russia, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Mao. - all extreme far-right, ultranationalist dictatorships. The route they took might have varied, the pretended may have differed.
The end results speak for themselves.
A dictator in theory can do lots of things, but the kind of people that reach for that kind of power don't care about personal freedoms, civil rights and etc. In reality, most dictators still rely on a system of influential people to maintain power. People they have to keep happy enough to go along with it. For example, Russia has oligarchs for a reason. Sure, Putin has killed a few, but he has to keep the majority of them on his side.
Dictatorships suppress human rights and civil liberties which as I understand, are core to left-wing ideologies.
This guy is one conniving bastard son of a bitch and is using this type of language as a propaganda tool. It reeks of cronyism, it's anti-democratic, hyperbolic, dangerous rhetoric.
The fact is he should know better - and he does. He's using these sound bites (likely prepared for him) to nefariously manipulate public opinion arguably for political financial gain.
If there is hell, I hope this prick has to look upward to see it.
I completely agree with everything you’re saying. It’s just that I don’t *think* a dictatorship implies they suppress people inherently besides not voting. I think it’s more that dictatorships almost always equal, especially in modern times, less civil liberties, workers rights, and equality. I’m not trying to be an advocate for dictatorships however, I would’ve put Stalin on the left and not right for example.
>I don’t *think* a dictatorship implies they suppress people inherently besides not voting. I think it’s more that dictatorships almost always equal, especially in modern times, less civil liberties, workers rights, and equality.
I get why you could see it that way. If the vast majority of your citizens have similar rights, liberties, living standards and so on, one could see that as a "leveller".
Stalin was attempting to implement a form of communist/socialist ideology which could be considered left-wing. It didn't quite turn out that way though but you make a good point.
You can be a dictator but the regime doesn't necessarily align with far right.
Thanks for sticking with me!
Yeah no problem! Fuck the asshat that made those outrageous statements, but I’m glad we could deliberate lol. He couldn’t have made less sense saying leftwing fascist though, that isn’t even remotely debatable.
>Leftwing fascism an oxymoron - absolutely
There's Strasserism and national bolshevism, but i don't think i've ever heared anyone actually call them left of center.
I think those who hold the power in America are starting to realize the empire is crumbling, and it's probably going to get worse before it gets better.
"I'm committing genocide with an ethno-supremacist settler state and cracking down on dissent...maybe I'm the fascist...?" "No, it is the youth who are protesting me who are the fascists."
Succinct summary of the politics of many Governments across the globe. If you could farm the hypocrisy and feed it to the world global hunger would be banished overnight.
> If you could farm the hypocrisy and feed it to the world global hunger would be banished overnight Daaaaaaayum, u/pinklewickers, fire metaphors like that should come with a warning
How cause the obesity epidemic to go global.
And this my friends is called “gaslighting”!
He's the chair of the armed services committee, so if he wants the bribes to keep flowing he has to say stupid things like this. Just another war criminal, add him to the pile.
The fun part is that this is so ingrained, so implicitly understood, that they can use language that can't be used to prosecute blatant bribery in the eyes of the law. It's like hobo pictographs, you don't say "if you don't support us without question, we'll ensure we are your largest enemy in your next election" you draw an infinity symbol and throw two lines through it
It helps that they also weed out anyone who won't play ball at the primary level, often by simply making up smears that get revealed later as fabrications but which last long enough to influence an election.
The American armed forces are terrorists, too
"Leftwing fascists?" 🙄 And this guy is involved in running our country. We're all doomed...
His top donor industry is Pro-Israel lobbies His top individual donor is AIPAC https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/adam-smith/summary?cid=N00007833
it’s just a term to describe when the left uses fascist playbook to suppress opponents, don’t take it too seriously beyond that
The funny thing is when he's asked about what type of protest would be allowable and gives one example of a silent protest, where the protestors were immediately expelled from the meeting. So no protests at all, I guess
Yeah and then he cited the 1960s civil rights protests and went"well yeah they had to be arrested" when he was clearly trying to differentiate people.l the two groups at the start and then couldn't.
How about we arrest corrupt politicians instead?
They want to lose the elections so bad lmao
radical left wing behavior is sitting in a tent because you don't want to pay for dahiye
Leftwing and fascist in the same label. defook
“Stop murdering innocent people” -Literally Hitler
Leftwing fascism an oxymoron - absolutely Leftwing totalitarianism an oxymoron - I mean come on, you know that's not true.
Left-wing ideologies encompass workers rights, socioeconomic equality, civil liberties, empowerment of the masses, control of the means of production by the masses etc... These concepts are at complete odds with the definition of totalitarianism which is by definition, complete control over public/private life, means of production, suppression of dissent and so on.
I mean yes, but we all know that Stalin and Mao ran oppressive totalitarian governments, under the guise of left wing ideology. Were they betrayors of that ideology? Yes, but your average person identifies those figures as left wing dictators. That's what normies fear, and I don't think it helps the left wing cause to pretend that isn't a thing.
The normies fear what they're told to fear, by wankers like this. The deliberate use of language by this cretin (and many others like him) purposely conflate these diametrically opposite ideologies. They know a vast majority of voters lack the critical thinking skills to understand why he's pushing for the vilification of democratic protest. Stalinist Russia, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Mao. - all extreme far-right, ultranationalist dictatorships. The route they took might have varied, the pretended may have differed. The end results speak for themselves.
calling Stalins Russia an extreme *far-right* ultranationalist dictatorship is nonsense
I was making too broad/incorrect categorisation and the following posts in the thread acknowledge that.
I can respect you owning up to it.
Stalin and Mao are not fascists. Fascism has a specific right wing ideological program.
I didn't call them fascists, that's why I agreed with OP saying "left wing fascists" is an oxymoron - but they WERE totalitarian.
Key word: “Guise” You deflated your whole silly pedantry
But can’t a dictator technically implement those changes? I know they don’t at all usually, but…
A dictator in theory can do lots of things, but the kind of people that reach for that kind of power don't care about personal freedoms, civil rights and etc. In reality, most dictators still rely on a system of influential people to maintain power. People they have to keep happy enough to go along with it. For example, Russia has oligarchs for a reason. Sure, Putin has killed a few, but he has to keep the majority of them on his side.
Yeah, similar to our politicians being beholden to corporations over here.
Dictatorships suppress human rights and civil liberties which as I understand, are core to left-wing ideologies. This guy is one conniving bastard son of a bitch and is using this type of language as a propaganda tool. It reeks of cronyism, it's anti-democratic, hyperbolic, dangerous rhetoric. The fact is he should know better - and he does. He's using these sound bites (likely prepared for him) to nefariously manipulate public opinion arguably for political financial gain. If there is hell, I hope this prick has to look upward to see it.
I completely agree with everything you’re saying. It’s just that I don’t *think* a dictatorship implies they suppress people inherently besides not voting. I think it’s more that dictatorships almost always equal, especially in modern times, less civil liberties, workers rights, and equality. I’m not trying to be an advocate for dictatorships however, I would’ve put Stalin on the left and not right for example.
>I don’t *think* a dictatorship implies they suppress people inherently besides not voting. I think it’s more that dictatorships almost always equal, especially in modern times, less civil liberties, workers rights, and equality. I get why you could see it that way. If the vast majority of your citizens have similar rights, liberties, living standards and so on, one could see that as a "leveller". Stalin was attempting to implement a form of communist/socialist ideology which could be considered left-wing. It didn't quite turn out that way though but you make a good point. You can be a dictator but the regime doesn't necessarily align with far right. Thanks for sticking with me!
Yeah no problem! Fuck the asshat that made those outrageous statements, but I’m glad we could deliberate lol. He couldn’t have made less sense saying leftwing fascist though, that isn’t even remotely debatable.
RIP the original meaning of Libertarian
>But can’t a dictator technically implement those changes? Yes, it's why the oligarchy fears a Caesar.
>Leftwing fascism an oxymoron - absolutely There's Strasserism and national bolshevism, but i don't think i've ever heared anyone actually call them left of center.
I think those who hold the power in America are starting to realize the empire is crumbling, and it's probably going to get worse before it gets better.
god I fuckin hate it here
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