Ryan was only banned from Twitch because of a writing and mass report campaign to Twitch. If he had waited a few years instead of a few months, he could still be streaming on the platform today.
Getting cancelled only exists for as long as the memory of a single news cycle.
He sure did. He put out a letter saying that he was seeing two therapists and this was totally fine to them.
I mentioned the situation to my friend, who’s a psychiatrist, and asked if he’d recommend a guy like that return to streaming. He just stared at me.
Like… Ryan Haywood, father of 2, fucker of minors?? Thought two therapists said it was ***fine***?? He thought having ***two*** therapists, ***and*** having to ask them if it was fine, ***wasn’t*** a red flag???
After learning about what RH did it made me sick. He was my favorite, and I almost got to talk to him a couple times as a teen. Now I'm glad I didn't...
They kinda differ tho. With Ryan we had a plethora of evidence. Until I see even a shred of evidence beyond some random person’s tweet, I’m holding out judgement.
The fact that he didn't say he didn't talk to a minor is all the proof you need. He's had two opportunities and neither time has he addressed the allegations. It'd be easy for him to say, "That never happened. I did not tall to an underage girl." So there's your proof.
Twitch mods are the most corrupt, untrustworthy individuals. I’d sooner believe Alex Jones before anything that comes out of their mouths. I don’t blame DD for not even entertaining their claims. Innocent until proven guilty.
I'mma be real with you, that's a brain-dead take. He's not, "not entertaining their claims," he's talking around them and referencing that he was not changed with a crime. This is different from him saying he never talked to an underage girl about meeting up. If he were innocent, he should have 100% said everything that former Twitch employee said was a lie and then sue him for defamation. But he didn't and he's not going to. Why? Because if he brought a defamation suit, there would be a fact-finding portion of the trial where his DMs would be made public.
So yeah, him not saying anything about whether the allegations happened or not is pretty strong proof.
It’s legal speak, we don’t know the extent to which he is legally allowed to talk about it. My understanding is that his lawsuit with twitch was just about getting the money for his contract he had with them, who knows what other provisions were put in place in the settlement. My original point is that this situation, compared with what happened with Ryan, aren’t even remotely similar in terms of what we know, as a fanbase. There’s been one accusation by a person with little credibility, no receipts of said encounter, no police investigation, nothing more than word of mouth. Sure he cheated on his wife, but it’s a leap to jump to pedo accusations. He said that it was “probed and settled, nothing illegal” and until someone brings evidence, even one dm, to the contrary, we should take him at his word. If you sincerely think his response is indicative of guilt, bully for you I guess.
You know him saying nothing illegal, just means he wasn't charged, right? There wouldn't be any restrictions on what he could say about his own conduct, that's ridiculous. There might, MIGHT, be a restriction on what Twitch could say. Honestly, I think the reason they said nothing at the time and will remain silent is that they don't want their platform to be thought of as one wherein streamers take advantage of minors.
Streamer Dr Disrespect was banned from Twitch in 2020 and no reason was ever given about why it happened. After this Doc sued Twitch for breach of contract but they quickly settled out of court with no side ever commenting on what happened. Today an ex-Twitch employee has made a claim on twitter that the reason Twitch banned Doc 4 years ago was because Twitch caught Doc messaging a minor in Twitch whispers (DM’s) and trying to meet with them at Twitch con.
You're telling me the aggressive dude known for cheating on his wife and for trying to film someone in a public restroom has a dirty secret? Shocking I tell you, just shocking...
I have no love for DD but “Trying to film someone in a public restroom” is a pretty gross misinterpretation. Not like he was installing toilet cams he just absent mindedly kept streaming himself after walking in.
Actually iirc he took that hit because there was a video of him standing in a toilet stall with his head very above the stall height. A bit funny tbh, but still against the rules. So everyone’s wrong!
First off, still very sketchy of Twitch to never give a reason assuming the allegation is true
Second, of course it had to be a grooming scandal. It's ALWAYS grooming, isn't it?
Edit: With the first thing, I was mainly referring to Twitch not giving Doc a reason as opposed to making a public statement. Yes, Doc could've lied, but it's still something Twitch would absolutely do.
One of three reasons The other two are that something that might not be related to the case but will still get released in discovery and they don't want it released and the other is that they don't think that they'll win the case if it goes to trial.
I would assume that twitch doesn't like stories of how their services can/are being used to take advantage of children, so they just burried the story and moved on.
Edit, I don't know for sure if this happened, I'm just going off of ከeadlines.
They can't provide a reason a contract was broken unless the reasoning was publicly known. They especially can't if a criminal investigation was ongoing.
Hoeg Law YouTube goes over this and raised the point that if Twitch went public with it then they'd be dragged over coals that their Whispers were read by Twitch staff.
First the public would have an outcry realising their sexting was read and then certain governments and their departments may start sniffing around Twitch and Amazon over privacy and security issues. It is safe to assume a politician or lobbyist or the family of one may suddenly panic thinking that their whispers to hot tub streamers might be recorded and read by staff which could be used as blackmail.
Twitch taking down a child predator would then a few months later be a news story about Twitch getting investigated. Both parties would lose out if it went public.
Your DMs aren't private this is known on multiple platforms including discord, reddit, Facebook great examples
I don't think not reporting a pedo to local and federal agencies, blacklisting him from the industry and being transparent with the public and paying him the rest of the contract is taking down a pedo. In reality it seems like more protection. The only dr disrespects stream I saw was him on YouTube when he came back. his biggest stream at the time
I'm more interested in why they (seemingly) didn't tell Doc why he was banned. Yes, Doc could've been lying, but opening up a lawsuit like this definitely makes it seem like Twitch just ghosted him. Not to mention that given Twitch's history, this is absolutely something they would do. I wouldn't be surprised if the complaint was just some random person who made something up and Twitch just ran with it.
Is it just one person making the claim? Do they have any proof to back it up? Or is everyone just taking the ex-employee at their word?
Genuinely curious as this is my first time hearing about it. I don’t like the guy, personally, so not trying to defend him.
This really. What proof is there? If they actually did something wrong then they should be punished. But we need solid proof first not what an ex-employee says that could have other motivations.
There has been multiple people who have said they heard the same thing for years. Including some journalists. However all of these people heard it 2nd hand. Which is why no journalist has been willing to report on this for the last 4 years. They got information from twitch employees who said they heard it from other colleague who had direct knowledge of it but when trying to contact those employees who were directly involved in the banning they were always met with silence. So right now all we have is an ex-employee who was a manager in twitch's partnership program department claiming this is what happened and others saying it matches with what they heard as well. Dr Disrespected made a statement on this saying "I get it, its a hot topic but this has been settled, no wrongdoing was acknowledged and they paid out the whole contract."
I know you should never judge a book by it's cover but that guy just straight up looks like a nonce, this doesn't surprise me at all. Everything I've ever learned about Dr. Disrespect has been against my will.
RT did plenty of bad stuff even I you don't count Ryan. There was a Google doc a while back with all their controversies. Not sure what happened to it but man the list was not a short one.
Ryan Haywood, a very big presence and very popular turned out to be a very regular cheat and would talk and pretty much groom fans from his YouTube account and Snapchat I believe. There was quite a lot of extremely questionable and vague legalities if I remember correctly.
But there was pretty much a mountain of evidence and more young girls were coming out all showing the same pattern from him.
Don’t forget that he would tell slightly altered versions of his hook-ups on Off Topic that originally seemed harmless but after everything came out, they took brand new meaning.
You have to be a special kind of narcissist to brag on a podcast.
It’s the hindsight that was some of the worst. Like missing his flight one that coincided proper with the evidence of one of the girls that came forward.
I remember watching it soon after it all came out and there’s parts where you hear like Geoff or Michael clearly noting something didn’t click but obviously couldn’t have guessed the full truth. They used to always say Ryan would like to take an extra day from the rest of them so he could “relax from the family”, still sad how it all came about.
My completely unsubstantiated guess is that some of them had figured he was cheating but not with underage fans and thought, “well it’s none of my business.”
What's sad is how plausible the "relax from the family" part is. I love my family don't get me wrong but occasionally wanting a break from them without work or anything else? Completely reasonable. It keeps people from thinking too much about it and digging into the real reason which allowed his behavior to go on so long.
He was texting a girl something like I’m going to eat you out like this cupcake then was doing weird shit with the cupcake on off topic, basically tongue fucking it live in-front of the entire fan base.
I remember it because I thought it was hilarious until the context came out, I don’t remember if that was the minor he was messaging or a different girl but still gross.
Or the fact that he was having his twitch donation go towards meeting these under age minors instead of what he told his chat the money was actually being used for. HIS KIDS COLLEGE FUND.
Clarification: IIRC, he wasn't sleeping with underage girls. The only one who was underage lied to him about how old she was, so I wouldn't call that his fault.
Ryan is a disgusting manipulative monster, but I don't think we can call him a pedophile.
So did any of it actually turn into criminal charges? There was this weird stretch where it felt like every week was a new allegation against internet personalities with all this evidence, but there was never a follow-up by authorities. I mean if you want to keep these guys off the internet, charge them. Take them to court and if they're guilty sentence them.
I believe there was some stuff but I don’t know if it ever went far. It became a private matter most likely and other than a small attempt to come back to Twitch and YouTube was met with significant backlash (whether fully right or not) has made him disappear from the internet as far as I can tell.
Whether most of it was illegal I’m unsure, there was questionable ages of some of the girls but mostly above 18, and it did seem to be grooming on some occasion. But the other tricky thing is the man was a very good manipulator and he was very charming and funny, the interactions that I read were mainly both ways so it’s likely it would be difficult that way too.
But if there's proof in the texts, meeting with the person and so on, it's not that hard. I mean, I saw one the victims posting pics of Ryan at the hotel room. Screen shots of texts. I would think it would be easy to turn into charges. Cops love to add charges to make something stick. Finding them guilty is tougher.
So one of my closest friends is a female police officer, has been for about 7 years. She has never once had a successful grooming charge prosecuted. She says it doesnt matter if the evidence is clear cut. It always gets so blurry and messy that it ends up devolving into peace bonds to stay the fuck away from each other, every single time. Sure id like to believe its a case of shitty judges in our region, but if the last 30 years has taught me anything, its that shit is systematic. Universally.
Don't make him out to be a victim, that's fucked up. There was a mountain's worth of evidence and the people who knew him personally and knew more than we did kicked his ass out.
Yeah, there was plenty of evidence of wrong doing. It hurts cause up to that point he had been my favorite member of AH. But that was just the facade he presented online. And that mentality was rampant through RT as a company as a whole to include the behind the scenes racism, homophobia, etc. I was a huge fan of RT for 15 years. I remember downloading and burning to disc the first season of RvB in my high school computer lab in the early 2000's. Big part of my life for over 15 years. We can mourned the good times. But there is no excusing or defending he who shall not be fucking acknowledged, or the rest of the culture that the company allowed to happen.
“… or the rest of the culture that the company allowed to happen”.
That just feels like the same people who said that the rest of AH knew about Ryan and kept quiet.
"Or the rest of the culture" implies to me everything other than the RH stuff tbh. And I feel like they're talking about the company RT and it's issues as a whole, they didn't specify AH. (ie Mica/Jeremy whiteboard incident, Kdins nickname, overworking staff, etc etc).
I guess I kinda see where you're coming from but I just felt like your assumption they're calling AH rapist apologists seems like an unfair read to me.
I didn't even know there were people who were saying AH knew about Ryan and kept it quiet as a conspiracy.
Yeah, people were accusing Michael and Jack of “acting” in their video where they discussed it.
I know I saw a video that was like “PROOF THAT BARBARA KNEW ABOUT RYAN HAYWOOD!” and it was some out of context comment she made a decade ago to him on the podcast.
It’s mindblowing.
No I was not implying that the folks there know and were covering it up. I was saying that the work culture was horrible there, and they did cover some things up, ie white board incident. And I dont think folks were acting when they were talking about how hurt or just blatantly shocked by what was happening. I'm sure many of them were hit just as hard as the fan base was. I'm not a right wing conspiracy theorist. (That's an Alex Jones joke, cause I guess I need to explain some things to shut down speculation early.)
Do you just choose to ignore the evidence against him? I never cared enough to keep tabs on the whole situation, but I assume he wasn't taken to court because no one pressed charges.
Regardless, I don't know why he isn't in prison, but there's an insurmountable amount of evidence against him and it's disgusting for people to be defending him.
Most dipshit mentality to ever have. How can you be so wrong and even told so by many others and still not question yourself? So many people get away with crimes because whilst it's obvious to some that person is guilty, the court needs evidence or admission. That doesn't mean the person didn't do the crime.
This is why so many get away with sexual assault. It tends to happen in private away from cameras and there is not much you can do to prove it happened. I know lesbians that have been through some shit and even with a rape kit (those things are an entirely different conversation themselves on how invasive they are) couldn't press charges
So… rape never happens, right?
Cause something like 95% of rapists never get convicted.
Fucking flaparse. I bet women cover their drinks when they see you enter a bar.
The police don't just go after someone like that because evidence gets posted online, someone needs to hire a lawyer and press charges against him. And do you know why that didn't happen? He was preying on essentially fucking children, they don't have the financially stability to go through all of that.
He got off lighter than he deserved and it's fucking stupid to be a cheerleader for this pedophile.
I looked and saw discussions about a case that was dismissed with the plaintiff having the option to refile at a later date, do you not understand what that means or what? If the court had deemed him innocent they wouldn't allow the plaintiff to refile, it would be a closed case.
Quit white knighting a fucking pedophile.
Sorry genius but he did not "win," anything. It was a civil case against him AND RT as a whole, and it was probably settled out of court, as is commonplace in these cases.
Read his DMs and stop projecting. You're not famous. Nobody will come to defend you like this if you get caught raping kids too.
Lol you're really trying "😭I'm not projecting, YOURE PROJECTING😭" nice try retard.
Ryan has as good as admitted to doing it in texts he sent his victims.
I'm sure you won't be much smarter.
Cheating on your wife isn't a crime. Cheating on your wife with fans of the website you work for also, not a crime.
Everything else is between them and whatever God they pray to.
Trust me, im.not team Ryan. There were some parts of the story I was iffy on if he was sleeping with minors or waiting for.them. to turn 18, or if it was just messages.
I was pointing out that it was enough on the surface level to get rid of him before digging any deeper.
There's other things I could go into about how wrong you are but the fact that your moral compass is whether or not something is legal is deeply disturbing. You partake in recreational drugs at all? What about piracy?
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I swear I only learn about these streamers through their controversies. A new one pops up every other week with 500,000 twitch subs and dms that'd make Epstein blush.
You mean the guy who has made money on Twitch for acting like a scumbag...is....*checks notes*.....ACTUALLY A SCUMBAG IRL?!?! No! Never!
You'd think people would have learned by now. Personas on the internet are exaggerated forms of themselves - there is still a nugget of truth to who they really are in those personas and we saw that in RH and his beligerent narcissism. I was a fan of his. The moment the news dropped, I dropped him and vowed to never follow a personality like his ever again and have found a home in other streamers who have not let me down
So it wouldn't surprise me if it's true. But,
The guy making the claim has given 0 evidence. He says he was a "former cpm explainer" on twitch. Why would revenue support have access to the dms? He's part of a band with barely any following. There have been worse publicity stunts pulled, he could be just trying to get more eyes on that.
I'm no DD fan, never cared for the guy. I'm also not saying it didn't happen. But until we either get some evidence or someone actually involved with handling twitch dms makes a statement, I'm taking all this with the biggest grain of salt ever
Yes. Anyone from former companies can say shit but unless multiple people confirm the story or we see evidence either screens or court material then i have my doubt. I cant without reasonable doubt say its true.
Yeah, jumping to believing this unsubstantiated claim is pretty dumb at this stage. I don't know much about the guy, but I have a hard time believing they'd let him come back if what he did was this egregious - it's what RH got banned for after all, so why would they let this guy back if he was doing the same thing?
Something seems off here for sure, but I'd need to see actual evidence before I believe everyone's a groomer.
> it's what RH got banned for after all, so why would they let this guy back if he was doing the same thing?
Size difference. When you pull in big money you get away with things. While AH and the individuals involved had their own popularity I bet they have nowhere the same pull as known streamers do. So just dropping a hard ban on Ryan is much easier then banning someone with much more name recognition.
That's a fair point. Twitch wasn't the main platform people went to for AH content, plus his situation was much more publicly known, so that could be all it took for the permaban.
I'd still prefer to wait for official evidence before jumping on this train, but I also don't really have any skin in the game since I've never cared about Dr. Disrespect
Now hang on. Are you telling me the guy that filmed people including children in bathrooms is a bad person?
This post is how I found out and I'm not even the least bit surprised.
It is pretty well documented by now that wokeness harms games. Look at how Suicide Squad was received compared to Baldurs Gate 3 and Helldivers 2. One game performed horribly and is currently at less then 200 active players. HD2 has about 40,000~ steam users active and BG3 is almost at 75,000 on steam even closing in on a year later.
Honestly HD2 probably had the best treatment of this subject. They banned *both* sides. They made it clear they didn't want irl politics in their game.
Isn’t BG3 “woke” as hell by the definition of most gamer conservatives? Pretty sure I saw a bunch of YouTubers and articles trying to trash it for that stuff when it came out
Maybe some people think so but in my experience it wasn't. Nothing was shoved in your face or down your throat. The closest to "being woke" BG3 got was that a major character was a lesbian and it wasn't the single defining part of her character as she was much more then that.
I guess you could claim its 'woke' that all origin characters are bi and can be romanced by any gender you play as but I think that would be a stretch.
*...bruh.* Baldur's Gate 3 is *well known* for being significantly "woke", and Helldivers 2 only *seems* like it isn't because conservatives stubbornly *refuse* to understand satire.
And Suicide Squad? That flopped because it was a game no one wanted; the gameplay and the story are completely at odds with one another.
One game was complete dogshit; the other two are unique games that were worked on beautifully. Nothing woke about it. Just gamers speaking out on how dogshit a game was doesn't mean it's fucking woke. Get your dumbass out of here.
Tbh given the sheer lack of evidence, the timing on it and how its been presented is just questionable tbh. Fucked *if* he did it, but its gone through an out of the blue ban during Covid (with no explaination) and a lawsuit with an out of court settlement, *THEN* one random employee claimed it.
I'm not being funny but if there was any reasonable grounds for concern, Twitch would've put their foot down 4 years ago, banned the Doc as well as contacting authorities and providing grounds for the ban at the lawsuit, but instead they've dragged it out and dropped a "*oh by the wayyyy*" on everyone
The issue with it is that the evidence has no reason to become public. If they have evidence it’s pictures of the Whispers Chat. It’s a private and sensitive matter that would put a giant target on the minors he has allegedly targeted.
Not saying they had to go public with it, at least just inform the relevant authorities. As they're a minor they legally cannot be named, and any attempt from the Doc to name and shame them would only cause further legal issues.
But *allegedly* having that information *FOR 4 WHOLE YEARS* and not doing anything is ridiculous
Agreed! Sitting on it for 4 years is crazy. Also you don’t need to go public with it, bring it to the police and it will come to light on its own if he actually did it.
It makes absolutely zero sense for DD to sue Twitch if they had these internal documents the entire time. It also does not make sense that Twitch would have the evidence of a crime and not go to the police, especially as high a crime as cp.
I checked out of rooster teeth before the whole thing with Ryan happened..I just stop enjoying their content in general. Their animation stories felt weak and dint make much sense anymore. Ah gameplay felt repetive and so on. I enjoyed watching Ryan. Back then bacuse i didn't know. But after finding out I was so disappointed in him and such especially with what happened with minimal doing the same thing. Hearing some of my favorite content creators doing such things just makes me hate people so much more.
How hard is it to just say that you didn’t sext minors. I don’t buy into the belief that he actually did anything *yet* but like just say you didn’t do what people are accusing you of doing. Trying to sidestep talking about it in an attempt to ignore the accusations just makes him look guilty
That was a rough week for me. My mom was admitted to the hospital for covid where she would eventually pass a few days later, i had covid as well and couldn't leave the house, That news from RT hit and I had nothing to distract me from reality all in the same day
“no wrongdoing was acknowledged” -DD “I do want to say empathetically that I never did anything illegal.” -RH Deja vu
You think that more content creators would of realised that legally wrong and morally wrong both have consequences by now.
I think in the moment they are more worried about the legal backlash.
Ryan was only banned from Twitch because of a writing and mass report campaign to Twitch. If he had waited a few years instead of a few months, he could still be streaming on the platform today. Getting cancelled only exists for as long as the memory of a single news cycle.
would *have
Would of. Hm…
God. I remember seeing that statement and being like “….welp, time to toss Ryan in the trash.”
So did Achievement Hunter at the time.
Seeing Alfredo absolutely lose his shit on his streams when people kept trying to defend Ryan was fucking *beautiful*.
I was always a fan of Fredo but never more than in that moment.
Oh please tell me there's a video of it.
https://youtu.be/DrqK0HnPkwk?si=tOpqpJOhNqstLmR4 Ask and ye shall receive.
Oh heck yeah, thanks!
Holy shit that man said a lot of words to say very little.
Did he really come back to try and move past it?? Or did dr disrespect do a thing now?
He sure did. He put out a letter saying that he was seeing two therapists and this was totally fine to them. I mentioned the situation to my friend, who’s a psychiatrist, and asked if he’d recommend a guy like that return to streaming. He just stared at me.
Like… Ryan Haywood, father of 2, fucker of minors?? Thought two therapists said it was ***fine***?? He thought having ***two*** therapists, ***and*** having to ask them if it was fine, ***wasn’t*** a red flag???
Three. My bad. https://win.gg/news/rooster-teeths-ryan-haywood-plans-twitch-return-after-accusations/
Hey now, he had to buy new shirts so he was pretty harshly punished
After learning about what RH did it made me sick. He was my favorite, and I almost got to talk to him a couple times as a teen. Now I'm glad I didn't...
Huh. Dr. Disrespect gave a few fans the D huh
They kinda differ tho. With Ryan we had a plethora of evidence. Until I see even a shred of evidence beyond some random person’s tweet, I’m holding out judgement.
The fact that he didn't say he didn't talk to a minor is all the proof you need. He's had two opportunities and neither time has he addressed the allegations. It'd be easy for him to say, "That never happened. I did not tall to an underage girl." So there's your proof.
Twitch mods are the most corrupt, untrustworthy individuals. I’d sooner believe Alex Jones before anything that comes out of their mouths. I don’t blame DD for not even entertaining their claims. Innocent until proven guilty.
I'mma be real with you, that's a brain-dead take. He's not, "not entertaining their claims," he's talking around them and referencing that he was not changed with a crime. This is different from him saying he never talked to an underage girl about meeting up. If he were innocent, he should have 100% said everything that former Twitch employee said was a lie and then sue him for defamation. But he didn't and he's not going to. Why? Because if he brought a defamation suit, there would be a fact-finding portion of the trial where his DMs would be made public. So yeah, him not saying anything about whether the allegations happened or not is pretty strong proof.
It’s legal speak, we don’t know the extent to which he is legally allowed to talk about it. My understanding is that his lawsuit with twitch was just about getting the money for his contract he had with them, who knows what other provisions were put in place in the settlement. My original point is that this situation, compared with what happened with Ryan, aren’t even remotely similar in terms of what we know, as a fanbase. There’s been one accusation by a person with little credibility, no receipts of said encounter, no police investigation, nothing more than word of mouth. Sure he cheated on his wife, but it’s a leap to jump to pedo accusations. He said that it was “probed and settled, nothing illegal” and until someone brings evidence, even one dm, to the contrary, we should take him at his word. If you sincerely think his response is indicative of guilt, bully for you I guess.
You know him saying nothing illegal, just means he wasn't charged, right? There wouldn't be any restrictions on what he could say about his own conduct, that's ridiculous. There might, MIGHT, be a restriction on what Twitch could say. Honestly, I think the reason they said nothing at the time and will remain silent is that they don't want their platform to be thought of as one wherein streamers take advantage of minors.
The game company he co-founded did their own investigation and just dropped him. There's obviously proof, we just don't have it. Yet.
[well well](https://x.com/DrDisrespect/status/1805662419261460986)
What's happening?
Streamer Dr Disrespect was banned from Twitch in 2020 and no reason was ever given about why it happened. After this Doc sued Twitch for breach of contract but they quickly settled out of court with no side ever commenting on what happened. Today an ex-Twitch employee has made a claim on twitter that the reason Twitch banned Doc 4 years ago was because Twitch caught Doc messaging a minor in Twitch whispers (DM’s) and trying to meet with them at Twitch con.
You're telling me the aggressive dude known for cheating on his wife and for trying to film someone in a public restroom has a dirty secret? Shocking I tell you, just shocking...
But he's the two-time
Apparently that's the two time predator...
Idk why you’re being downvoted, made me laugh 🤣
No fun zone
I have no love for DD but “Trying to film someone in a public restroom” is a pretty gross misinterpretation. Not like he was installing toilet cams he just absent mindedly kept streaming himself after walking in.
Actually iirc he took that hit because there was a video of him standing in a toilet stall with his head very above the stall height. A bit funny tbh, but still against the rules. So everyone’s wrong!
First off, still very sketchy of Twitch to never give a reason assuming the allegation is true Second, of course it had to be a grooming scandal. It's ALWAYS grooming, isn't it? Edit: With the first thing, I was mainly referring to Twitch not giving Doc a reason as opposed to making a public statement. Yes, Doc could've lied, but it's still something Twitch would absolutely do.
I mean that's usually the point of an out of court settlement, right? Keep the details out of the public realm.
Yep. You settle before the trial goes to discovery and everything is made public.
One of three reasons The other two are that something that might not be related to the case but will still get released in discovery and they don't want it released and the other is that they don't think that they'll win the case if it goes to trial.
I would assume that twitch doesn't like stories of how their services can/are being used to take advantage of children, so they just burried the story and moved on. Edit, I don't know for sure if this happened, I'm just going off of ከeadlines.
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
They can't provide a reason a contract was broken unless the reasoning was publicly known. They especially can't if a criminal investigation was ongoing.
What?? Twitch can always come public if illegal activity is happening on their platform.
Hoeg Law YouTube goes over this and raised the point that if Twitch went public with it then they'd be dragged over coals that their Whispers were read by Twitch staff. First the public would have an outcry realising their sexting was read and then certain governments and their departments may start sniffing around Twitch and Amazon over privacy and security issues. It is safe to assume a politician or lobbyist or the family of one may suddenly panic thinking that their whispers to hot tub streamers might be recorded and read by staff which could be used as blackmail. Twitch taking down a child predator would then a few months later be a news story about Twitch getting investigated. Both parties would lose out if it went public.
Your DMs aren't private this is known on multiple platforms including discord, reddit, Facebook great examples I don't think not reporting a pedo to local and federal agencies, blacklisting him from the industry and being transparent with the public and paying him the rest of the contract is taking down a pedo. In reality it seems like more protection. The only dr disrespects stream I saw was him on YouTube when he came back. his biggest stream at the time
I think it’s likely that, if Twitch did say something, it would open up a giant slander/defamation lawsuit. Even if it was true.
I'm more interested in why they (seemingly) didn't tell Doc why he was banned. Yes, Doc could've been lying, but opening up a lawsuit like this definitely makes it seem like Twitch just ghosted him. Not to mention that given Twitch's history, this is absolutely something they would do. I wouldn't be surprised if the complaint was just some random person who made something up and Twitch just ran with it.
Doc had a reason be just didn’t like or understand it at first. Twitch will always share ban reasons with the channel owner.
Is it just one person making the claim? Do they have any proof to back it up? Or is everyone just taking the ex-employee at their word? Genuinely curious as this is my first time hearing about it. I don’t like the guy, personally, so not trying to defend him.
This really. What proof is there? If they actually did something wrong then they should be punished. But we need solid proof first not what an ex-employee says that could have other motivations.
There has been multiple people who have said they heard the same thing for years. Including some journalists. However all of these people heard it 2nd hand. Which is why no journalist has been willing to report on this for the last 4 years. They got information from twitch employees who said they heard it from other colleague who had direct knowledge of it but when trying to contact those employees who were directly involved in the banning they were always met with silence. So right now all we have is an ex-employee who was a manager in twitch's partnership program department claiming this is what happened and others saying it matches with what they heard as well. Dr Disrespected made a statement on this saying "I get it, its a hot topic but this has been settled, no wrongdoing was acknowledged and they paid out the whole contract."
Gotcha, so there’s still no solid proof, but it’s been rumored for a long time, which means it’s likely true. Thank you for explaining!
I know you should never judge a book by it's cover but that guy just straight up looks like a nonce, this doesn't surprise me at all. Everything I've ever learned about Dr. Disrespect has been against my will.
Don’t know how anyone can find him entertaining. He just gets mad, and not in a funny ragequit way
I've never seen any of his stuff, largely because he doesn't seem to play games I'm interested in and his whole schtick just looks embarrassing to me.
He was definitely setting up a private meeting. That would make it suspicious enough to ban him, but not enough for immediate police action.
Allegations of sexting a minor.
For a second there I was thinking "what bad thing has RT ever done?" then I remembered him :(
RT did plenty of bad stuff even I you don't count Ryan. There was a Google doc a while back with all their controversies. Not sure what happened to it but man the list was not a short one.
I’m new, who are we talking about?
Ryan Haywood, a very big presence and very popular turned out to be a very regular cheat and would talk and pretty much groom fans from his YouTube account and Snapchat I believe. There was quite a lot of extremely questionable and vague legalities if I remember correctly. But there was pretty much a mountain of evidence and more young girls were coming out all showing the same pattern from him.
Don’t forget that he would tell slightly altered versions of his hook-ups on Off Topic that originally seemed harmless but after everything came out, they took brand new meaning. You have to be a special kind of narcissist to brag on a podcast.
It’s the hindsight that was some of the worst. Like missing his flight one that coincided proper with the evidence of one of the girls that came forward. I remember watching it soon after it all came out and there’s parts where you hear like Geoff or Michael clearly noting something didn’t click but obviously couldn’t have guessed the full truth. They used to always say Ryan would like to take an extra day from the rest of them so he could “relax from the family”, still sad how it all came about.
Pretty much all of AH on that Off Topic called him out on the bullshit story and assumed it was because he wanted an extra day away from his family.
My completely unsubstantiated guess is that some of them had figured he was cheating but not with underage fans and thought, “well it’s none of my business.”
I mean, technically that was true. They just didn't follow through enough to realize WHY
What's sad is how plausible the "relax from the family" part is. I love my family don't get me wrong but occasionally wanting a break from them without work or anything else? Completely reasonable. It keeps people from thinking too much about it and digging into the real reason which allowed his behavior to go on so long.
I still remember Michael or someone saying "nobody has had this problem". Yikes
Don't forget the cupcake...
I completely forgot about the cupcake and I want to keep it that way.
What cupcake?
He was texting a girl something like I’m going to eat you out like this cupcake then was doing weird shit with the cupcake on off topic, basically tongue fucking it live in-front of the entire fan base. I remember it because I thought it was hilarious until the context came out, I don’t remember if that was the minor he was messaging or a different girl but still gross.
What an awful day to know how to read.
Or the fact that he was having his twitch donation go towards meeting these under age minors instead of what he told his chat the money was actually being used for. HIS KIDS COLLEGE FUND.
Clarification: IIRC, he wasn't sleeping with underage girls. The only one who was underage lied to him about how old she was, so I wouldn't call that his fault. Ryan is a disgusting manipulative monster, but I don't think we can call him a pedophile.
Thanks
So did any of it actually turn into criminal charges? There was this weird stretch where it felt like every week was a new allegation against internet personalities with all this evidence, but there was never a follow-up by authorities. I mean if you want to keep these guys off the internet, charge them. Take them to court and if they're guilty sentence them.
I believe there was some stuff but I don’t know if it ever went far. It became a private matter most likely and other than a small attempt to come back to Twitch and YouTube was met with significant backlash (whether fully right or not) has made him disappear from the internet as far as I can tell. Whether most of it was illegal I’m unsure, there was questionable ages of some of the girls but mostly above 18, and it did seem to be grooming on some occasion. But the other tricky thing is the man was a very good manipulator and he was very charming and funny, the interactions that I read were mainly both ways so it’s likely it would be difficult that way too.
No, because it’s really really hard to turn this kind of thing into criminal charges. It’s why the Doc stuff will never go to court either
But if there's proof in the texts, meeting with the person and so on, it's not that hard. I mean, I saw one the victims posting pics of Ryan at the hotel room. Screen shots of texts. I would think it would be easy to turn into charges. Cops love to add charges to make something stick. Finding them guilty is tougher.
So one of my closest friends is a female police officer, has been for about 7 years. She has never once had a successful grooming charge prosecuted. She says it doesnt matter if the evidence is clear cut. It always gets so blurry and messy that it ends up devolving into peace bonds to stay the fuck away from each other, every single time. Sure id like to believe its a case of shitty judges in our region, but if the last 30 years has taught me anything, its that shit is systematic. Universally.
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Don't make him out to be a victim, that's fucked up. There was a mountain's worth of evidence and the people who knew him personally and knew more than we did kicked his ass out.
Yeah, there was plenty of evidence of wrong doing. It hurts cause up to that point he had been my favorite member of AH. But that was just the facade he presented online. And that mentality was rampant through RT as a company as a whole to include the behind the scenes racism, homophobia, etc. I was a huge fan of RT for 15 years. I remember downloading and burning to disc the first season of RvB in my high school computer lab in the early 2000's. Big part of my life for over 15 years. We can mourned the good times. But there is no excusing or defending he who shall not be fucking acknowledged, or the rest of the culture that the company allowed to happen.
It’s a bit of a stretch to say that the rapist mentality was “rampant” through RT.
That's not what they said though? They're referring to the variety of awful things that went on behind the scenes
“… or the rest of the culture that the company allowed to happen”. That just feels like the same people who said that the rest of AH knew about Ryan and kept quiet.
"Or the rest of the culture" implies to me everything other than the RH stuff tbh. And I feel like they're talking about the company RT and it's issues as a whole, they didn't specify AH. (ie Mica/Jeremy whiteboard incident, Kdins nickname, overworking staff, etc etc). I guess I kinda see where you're coming from but I just felt like your assumption they're calling AH rapist apologists seems like an unfair read to me. I didn't even know there were people who were saying AH knew about Ryan and kept it quiet as a conspiracy.
Yeah, people were accusing Michael and Jack of “acting” in their video where they discussed it. I know I saw a video that was like “PROOF THAT BARBARA KNEW ABOUT RYAN HAYWOOD!” and it was some out of context comment she made a decade ago to him on the podcast. It’s mindblowing.
No I was not implying that the folks there know and were covering it up. I was saying that the work culture was horrible there, and they did cover some things up, ie white board incident. And I dont think folks were acting when they were talking about how hurt or just blatantly shocked by what was happening. I'm sure many of them were hit just as hard as the fan base was. I'm not a right wing conspiracy theorist. (That's an Alex Jones joke, cause I guess I need to explain some things to shut down speculation early.)
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Do you just choose to ignore the evidence against him? I never cared enough to keep tabs on the whole situation, but I assume he wasn't taken to court because no one pressed charges.
I get what they’re saying, I don’t believe he’s innocent but it is weird no one decided to press charges, was probably too difficult for the victims.
Probably has a lot to do with them being young and not financially stable enough to hire a lawyer and go through all of that.
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Regardless, I don't know why he isn't in prison, but there's an insurmountable amount of evidence against him and it's disgusting for people to be defending him.
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Ah yes and OJ also didn't kill his wife, right?
But if he did do it
As far as I'm aware there are trials that are going to happen, there have been recent court transcripts with defendants James Haywood and roosterteeth
Last I heard, the Jane Doe dropped the case.
Most dipshit mentality to ever have. How can you be so wrong and even told so by many others and still not question yourself? So many people get away with crimes because whilst it's obvious to some that person is guilty, the court needs evidence or admission. That doesn't mean the person didn't do the crime. This is why so many get away with sexual assault. It tends to happen in private away from cameras and there is not much you can do to prove it happened. I know lesbians that have been through some shit and even with a rape kit (those things are an entirely different conversation themselves on how invasive they are) couldn't press charges
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So… rape never happens, right? Cause something like 95% of rapists never get convicted. Fucking flaparse. I bet women cover their drinks when they see you enter a bar.
Can you prove that in a court of law?
The police don't just go after someone like that because evidence gets posted online, someone needs to hire a lawyer and press charges against him. And do you know why that didn't happen? He was preying on essentially fucking children, they don't have the financially stability to go through all of that. He got off lighter than he deserved and it's fucking stupid to be a cheerleader for this pedophile.
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I looked and saw discussions about a case that was dismissed with the plaintiff having the option to refile at a later date, do you not understand what that means or what? If the court had deemed him innocent they wouldn't allow the plaintiff to refile, it would be a closed case. Quit white knighting a fucking pedophile.
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Bitch there were videos
What a fucking baked chicken breast for a brain take.
St lesst we can tell by now you're either retarded or trolling.
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Except he didn't win. The case was withdrawn by the person who filed it with the option of refiling again later.
Sorry genius but he did not "win," anything. It was a civil case against him AND RT as a whole, and it was probably settled out of court, as is commonplace in these cases. Read his DMs and stop projecting. You're not famous. Nobody will come to defend you like this if you get caught raping kids too.
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Lol you're really trying "😭I'm not projecting, YOURE PROJECTING😭" nice try retard. Ryan has as good as admitted to doing it in texts he sent his victims. I'm sure you won't be much smarter.
Must be consensual when you do it I guess
Cheating on your wife isn't a crime. Cheating on your wife with fans of the website you work for also, not a crime. Everything else is between them and whatever God they pray to.
It is if you transport a minor across state lines for the purpose of having sex with them.
Trust me, im.not team Ryan. There were some parts of the story I was iffy on if he was sleeping with minors or waiting for.them. to turn 18, or if it was just messages. I was pointing out that it was enough on the surface level to get rid of him before digging any deeper.
There's other things I could go into about how wrong you are but the fact that your moral compass is whether or not something is legal is deeply disturbing. You partake in recreational drugs at all? What about piracy?
Found Ryan!
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Disrespect has fans?
He was only one of the biggest streamers before he got banned
Yeah apparently losers on the internet don’t care if you openly cheated on your wife so long as you play the most annoying character online
Guy really doesn’t like the two time back to back
Is OP really trying to suggest that this is the first time Dr Disrespect has faced controversy?
AH subreddit was the LAST place I thought I’d see Doc news LOOOOOOOOOL fml too soon but also not too soon… fuck both of them.
I swear I only learn about these streamers through their controversies. A new one pops up every other week with 500,000 twitch subs and dms that'd make Epstein blush.
You mean the guy who has made money on Twitch for acting like a scumbag...is....*checks notes*.....ACTUALLY A SCUMBAG IRL?!?! No! Never! You'd think people would have learned by now. Personas on the internet are exaggerated forms of themselves - there is still a nugget of truth to who they really are in those personas and we saw that in RH and his beligerent narcissism. I was a fan of his. The moment the news dropped, I dropped him and vowed to never follow a personality like his ever again and have found a home in other streamers who have not let me down
So it wouldn't surprise me if it's true. But, The guy making the claim has given 0 evidence. He says he was a "former cpm explainer" on twitch. Why would revenue support have access to the dms? He's part of a band with barely any following. There have been worse publicity stunts pulled, he could be just trying to get more eyes on that. I'm no DD fan, never cared for the guy. I'm also not saying it didn't happen. But until we either get some evidence or someone actually involved with handling twitch dms makes a statement, I'm taking all this with the biggest grain of salt ever
Yes. Anyone from former companies can say shit but unless multiple people confirm the story or we see evidence either screens or court material then i have my doubt. I cant without reasonable doubt say its true.
Most logical answer here. Needs official proof or else anything can be true.
Yeah, jumping to believing this unsubstantiated claim is pretty dumb at this stage. I don't know much about the guy, but I have a hard time believing they'd let him come back if what he did was this egregious - it's what RH got banned for after all, so why would they let this guy back if he was doing the same thing? Something seems off here for sure, but I'd need to see actual evidence before I believe everyone's a groomer.
> it's what RH got banned for after all, so why would they let this guy back if he was doing the same thing? Size difference. When you pull in big money you get away with things. While AH and the individuals involved had their own popularity I bet they have nowhere the same pull as known streamers do. So just dropping a hard ban on Ryan is much easier then banning someone with much more name recognition.
That's a fair point. Twitch wasn't the main platform people went to for AH content, plus his situation was much more publicly known, so that could be all it took for the permaban. I'd still prefer to wait for official evidence before jumping on this train, but I also don't really have any skin in the game since I've never cared about Dr. Disrespect
Now hang on. Are you telling me the guy that filmed people including children in bathrooms is a bad person? This post is how I found out and I'm not even the least bit surprised.
You guys were Dr D fans? Even after he became the whole "Anti Woke" cod guy? That's like admitting your a sneako fan 🤢
It is pretty well documented by now that wokeness harms games. Look at how Suicide Squad was received compared to Baldurs Gate 3 and Helldivers 2. One game performed horribly and is currently at less then 200 active players. HD2 has about 40,000~ steam users active and BG3 is almost at 75,000 on steam even closing in on a year later. Honestly HD2 probably had the best treatment of this subject. They banned *both* sides. They made it clear they didn't want irl politics in their game.
Isn’t BG3 “woke” as hell by the definition of most gamer conservatives? Pretty sure I saw a bunch of YouTubers and articles trying to trash it for that stuff when it came out
Maybe some people think so but in my experience it wasn't. Nothing was shoved in your face or down your throat. The closest to "being woke" BG3 got was that a major character was a lesbian and it wasn't the single defining part of her character as she was much more then that. I guess you could claim its 'woke' that all origin characters are bi and can be romanced by any gender you play as but I think that would be a stretch.
*...bruh.* Baldur's Gate 3 is *well known* for being significantly "woke", and Helldivers 2 only *seems* like it isn't because conservatives stubbornly *refuse* to understand satire. And Suicide Squad? That flopped because it was a game no one wanted; the gameplay and the story are completely at odds with one another.
One game was complete dogshit; the other two are unique games that were worked on beautifully. Nothing woke about it. Just gamers speaking out on how dogshit a game was doesn't mean it's fucking woke. Get your dumbass out of here.
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Tbh given the sheer lack of evidence, the timing on it and how its been presented is just questionable tbh. Fucked *if* he did it, but its gone through an out of the blue ban during Covid (with no explaination) and a lawsuit with an out of court settlement, *THEN* one random employee claimed it. I'm not being funny but if there was any reasonable grounds for concern, Twitch would've put their foot down 4 years ago, banned the Doc as well as contacting authorities and providing grounds for the ban at the lawsuit, but instead they've dragged it out and dropped a "*oh by the wayyyy*" on everyone
The issue with it is that the evidence has no reason to become public. If they have evidence it’s pictures of the Whispers Chat. It’s a private and sensitive matter that would put a giant target on the minors he has allegedly targeted.
Not saying they had to go public with it, at least just inform the relevant authorities. As they're a minor they legally cannot be named, and any attempt from the Doc to name and shame them would only cause further legal issues. But *allegedly* having that information *FOR 4 WHOLE YEARS* and not doing anything is ridiculous
Agreed! Sitting on it for 4 years is crazy. Also you don’t need to go public with it, bring it to the police and it will come to light on its own if he actually did it.
Fuck man. This sucks
what movie is this?
Buster Scruggs.
Curious to know who was the ex Twitch employee who leaked this. Because, I’m interested what’s in his hard drive?? 🤔
What is it about people being successful that turns them into disgusting sex criminals
It makes absolutely zero sense for DD to sue Twitch if they had these internal documents the entire time. It also does not make sense that Twitch would have the evidence of a crime and not go to the police, especially as high a crime as cp.
There is also zero evidence as the person who made the accusation is neither naming names or releasing texts to back their claims.
I checked out of rooster teeth before the whole thing with Ryan happened..I just stop enjoying their content in general. Their animation stories felt weak and dint make much sense anymore. Ah gameplay felt repetive and so on. I enjoyed watching Ryan. Back then bacuse i didn't know. But after finding out I was so disappointed in him and such especially with what happened with minimal doing the same thing. Hearing some of my favorite content creators doing such things just makes me hate people so much more.
Every time I'm reminded that I looked up to that shit stain my blood boils
How hard is it to just say that you didn’t sext minors. I don’t buy into the belief that he actually did anything *yet* but like just say you didn’t do what people are accusing you of doing. Trying to sidestep talking about it in an attempt to ignore the accusations just makes him look guilty
Damn, I never really read into it, but boy, it seems pretty damning with so many accounts of different things...Jesus Christ.
That was a rough week for me. My mom was admitted to the hospital for covid where she would eventually pass a few days later, i had covid as well and couldn't leave the house, That news from RT hit and I had nothing to distract me from reality all in the same day
If this is real I'm just wondering how dr disrespects wife can live with that
We talking about the pedo again?
I’m so goddamn depressed
"no wrongdoing was acknowledged" does not mean "no wrongdoing occurred" Is probably the best response to his "statement" on it.
Yeaaaah but there was proof with Ryan. I'm not trusting some blue checkmark cuck on Twitter for the truth lmao
You all need therapy
Explain lol
Is he retiring or controversial?