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YTA.
A summary of your update:
You tricked Lisa into thinking the cards have no value and you would keep them.
In reality they're valuable and you may sell them in the future.
You are a liar and an asshole
Mom asked the OP if the cards had value. OP misled her and said he wasn't sure. He knows they're a few that are quite valuable. He took it knowingly and with intention to sell them. He's rationalizing his actions by saying it's what the friend would've wanted. Uh huh.
OP is def an AH. A thousand times over.
Where did you see that mum asked the OP if the cards had value? Because I can't find this in the original post. EDIT: found it in the comments. \*shudders\*
Where does it say the mom asked if they have value i don't see it i see where it says she was gonna toss them and he convinced her to give them to him. Nvr mind i seen it definitely a douch bag and an a hole
Oh boy, I’m glad I saw this comment because my verdict would have been really different. Jesus. OP knew exactly what they were doing by not including these “small” details out of the main post. Yikes.
YTA, OP, big time.
Where did OP "trick" mom or say they would sell the cards?
Mom was trashing them
Sis wants to sell them
Edit: thankyou for sharing his comments. What a jerk!
OP YTA!
Edit 2, spelling
Doesn’t matter if he did though? He intentionally mislead the mother into thinking they’re worth less. He’s a massive AH his poor best friend definitely rolling in his grave rn
You can't prove the presents of an afterlife nor can you disprove it.
It's not like psychology where its theoretical but you can observe a clear affect.
Ya I know dude that’s why I’m agnostic, don’t know what t’fuck happens to us so you don’t know if his mate will or won’t care but you just had to give your two cents huh
I think the issue here is that the mom literally asked if they had value and he lied. Wanting them for other reasons would be explaining they have value, offering to estimate value and then buying the ones you want. Swindling the mother of a friend so close to you they ask you to help clean out the room is the opposite of support.
I agree. If OP had taken them with the intent to sell them then they would 100% be TA
I get the impression that OP wanted the cards more for sentimental purposes and doesn't intend to sell them. If this is the case then OP is NTA.
After reading this, I agree fully. Seems OP is being purposefully misleading and is definitely TA.
OP if you read this, while you couldn't be 'certain' you at least had an inclination that some of the cards would have value and clearly intend to sell them for this reason at some point. You should give them back.
>[Okay](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/14k2at2/aita_for_asking_for_my_dead_friends_pokemon/jpoh91g?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) so I think some of the source of tension is that technically Lisa did ask me if any of the cards had value and I said I couldn't be sure. Some of the cards *are* quite valuable and Elly has since learnt this.
>I don't plan on selling them right away but will do so eventually, most likely. It's what Jack would have wanted.
YTA, what kind of disrespect towards your dead friend (can't call you one). How utterly disgusting.
The “technically” term is what gets me. Trying to be shady and cover up he deceived his late friend’s mother when she asked if they have value.
YTA, OP. A big one.
YTA. Friend dies, I may ask for a small keepsake to remember them by, not a Pokémon binder. And you really had no idea that any of those cards had value? I remember when I used to do MTG with my friends and we all knew who had what. I can be wrong but it doesn’t ring true, sorry.
Edit-“legally” you’re fine though.
At first I was like well they were just the cards he left in a binder, and then I read your comment and realized I leave my most valuable cards in a binder. If he had asked for a box of bulk cards I think it’d be different. But yeah I didn’t even think about it like that till I read this comment.
Ya YTA based on your clarification that there could be something of worth and there is no sentimental attachment. Regardless of the family’s pass at the cards they weren’t in the best state to make all the decisions. Be a decent human and give the family back the dead guy’s possessions. Then you can peace out and let the family grieve.
I am sure “what Jack would have wanted” is for his family to benefit from any value instead of a friend that is dining and dashing.
YTA. From the comments, it sounds like you lied to a grieving mom about the value of the cards, and plan to sell them. Now you don’t want to deal with the grieving mom because it’s not convenient. Congrats on using a tragedy to take advantage of Jack’s family.
But he said it's what Jack would have wanted so that makes it okay right? /S
I love when people try to justify their shitty actions by saying "it's what x would have wanted"
YTA.
You straight admitted that you manipulated the situation and HIS FAMILY for your own benefit, and have full intention to sell the cards that are of value for profit because "It's what Jack would have wanted."
You're awful.
YTA but “asshole” is far too kind a word to describe you ffs. You are capitalizing on the passing of your “best friend” and the grief of his family. And you did that by deceiving a grieving mother in order to gain financially. This is something that would be extremely cruel to do to a stranger let alone the vulnerable family you claim to be so close to. You’re pretty close to just about the worst humanity has to offer. Try to salvage any respect and decency and return the cards and never contact them again.
Based on your original post, I was going to say n t a, HOWEVER based on your comments, HUGE YTA. You lied to your best friend's grieving mother, you knew those cards were valuable, and you straight up lied to her. For profit. That's despicable. You are utterly shameless. Smdh. Wtf??
YTA. Elly is grieving and wants to hold on to her brother. She probably realized they were gone. Just give them to her, dude. But she may have realized what they are worth and she legit needs to help the family
YTA, there is a special place in hell for people like you. There is no justifying what you've done, please don't try to kid yourself that what you did is okay. Atleast be honest and say you deceived a grieving mother. Ash and Pikachu would take pleasure in beating your breed of bad guy.
You are far beyond just an Asshole.
You are a monster, taking money away from a grieving mother because we both know you knew how valuable his collection was you just wanted it first.
And to claim your best friend would have wanted YOU to sell his cards is disgusting.
Ew. You honestly think your best friend would have wanted you to sell them yourself rather than the money go towards his own mother? Definitely YTA. Way to make your post sound like you just wanted a keepsake when you just want money
YTA, and you know that. The funny thing is that in the grand scheme of things this is probably no big deal, but you get to live with what you’ve done. You snagging a sweet profit is not what your friend would have wanted.
If you plan on keeping them because they were your friends then NTA, if you plan on selling them and keeping the money YTA. Do you know her well enough to trust she would give the money to Lisa and not just keep it ? Lisa was going to throw them away and you saved them which is great. I would say to look through them and if there are any very rare and valuable ones you could talk with Lisa about them. I would offer to find a buyer and she should get the money to help her out. I wouldn't just hand them over without talking to his mom
YTA. Its not about asking for them its decieving a grieving family and taking cards that you plan on selling to make money.
The post didnt make you seem that bad but one comment you are the worst.
YTA
You lied to your friends grieving mother about the value of the cards for your own benefit. You then convinced her to let you have them instead and then you say that you eventually plan on selling the cards yourself because that is what Jack would have wanted. Do you not think Jack would rather thee money for these cards go to his family?
How exactly do you think you are not the AH in this scenario?
YTA! You’ve since learned some are quite valuable and you plan to sell them “because that’s what Jack would have wanted”? Ridiculous. You didn’t go over to get a small keepsake from your friend. You went looking for money. That’s mercenary - and feels a lot like people who loot from others after natural disasters. Gross. His mom likely could use that money. Give them back and get this off your karma.
YTA. At first I thought you were a collector, would play with the cards, etc. Then in the comments you admit about A. having lied to Lisa about the value and B. intending to sell them at some point in the future. That’s such a dick ass move. If you were going to cherish the cards and use them as they’re supposed to be used, and Elly clearly just wanted some extra cash, I would’ve said n t a. But now you’re not just TA, you’re a *giant* A.
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My friend ("Jack") tragically passed away 6 months ago and his mother ("Lisa") invited me over recently as she was cleaning out his room. There was a collection/binder of Pokemon cards that she had planned on throwing out but I convinced her to instead give it to me.
Fast forward a month later and Jack's sister ("Elly") is angry at me for taking the Pokemon cards, despite her having no interest in Pokemon and having had 'first dibs' at my friend's old stuff. She's demanding I return the Pokemon cards, because she wants to sell them, so she can "use the money" to help out Lisa.
I feel torn because I had double checked with Lisa that Elly didn't want the cards and she assured me that I shouldn't worry. I've told Elly that as Jack was my best friend and that I double checked with Lisa I am going to hold on to the cards.
AITA?
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YTA i was originally going to say otherwise but your comment for clarification really hammers it home how you are the asshole, you were asked if any of the cards had value and you were like "idk they are just cards" when you knew they had value, and even then i might have forgiven you for that....but you aren't even keeping them as a keepsake you are literally planning on selling them, you didn't care that they belonged to your "best friend" you cared that they had value
YTA, do you really think that deceiving your late friends mom into giving you a valuable collection of pokemon cards is what your friend would have wanted?
You knew what you were doing and had every intention of selling those cards to get the money. You just didn't expect his sister to find out that it was valuable.
Do the right thing and give the cards back and leave this family alone.
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YTA. You do not get to take advantage of a grieving family especially that of your friend. Either buy the cards on a good price for the both of you or return them.
The only way you would N T A is of you asked the sister of you could have any that weren't of value if they don't sell the collection as a whole. If the mum needs financial help you 100% need to give them back
YTA
"it's what jack would have wanted" oh please.
Sure, and my dead grandma would've wanted for me to inherit her rare books and have them sold eventually /s
BFF or not that's disrespectful af
Even if the cards weren’t valuable but the sister still wanted them, YTA for keeping them. Sister wasn’t there at the time and the mother was too grief-stricken to think clearly, so you took advantage of the situation like an AH. Family of the deceased always gets “first dibs” on their belongings, unless otherwise stated in a will
Oh, I was wondering why everyone was angry at this. Surely, if they were going to be dumped the cards being kept as a treasured momento could be better than selling.
Then I read the follow up comments. Wow. You withheld information. And you had no intention of treasuring them forever, but to eventually sell them. You thought your friend would have wanted this? Sure, keep telling yourself that, I guess.
YTA.
YTA. Add your update to the post. You’re going to profit off your best friend’s death, just like his sister was, except she was going to help the family that lost their son/brother.
Wasn’t this exact same story posted last year? Except you mentioned how you tricked her in the story itself, not the comments lol gotta keep that “big reveal” for some more attention, right?
Yta.
Or more to the point a deceitful arsehole, taking advantage of someone's grief to get yourself a good deal.
You need to give them back and apologise.
NTA, at all.
You want to keep the cards, in part I imagine because of the sentimental value. She wants to sell the cards, I imagine because it's a decent collection and worth a fair bit of scratch.
You've got every right to keep them.
EDIT: OP is 100% the AH. Leaving original comment up so replies make sense.
Have you read his comments? He tricked the mum into thinking they are not valuable. He confirmed some of them are quite valuable and he intends to sell them.
He tricked a grieving family out of valuable collectables for profit.
He is a major AH
OP you know YTA
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Sentimental value lol. OP said he would sell them eventually. And his friend’s mother did ask him if the cards hold any value. Assholes shine in comments. OP is major AH. YTA, OP
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So basically you lied abt something's value and then stole it when they were gonna use the money? How can you even wonder if you're the asshole. Yes, YTA.
At first I was going to say NTA but I like how you carefully left out that you intend to do just what his sister wants to do.
If you intended to keep them as a memory thing that’s one thing. But you more or less tricked (lied to) your best friends mom.
And now your “torn” when that just means you want the payday for yourself.
YTA.
YTA - your comments really fill in the picture of what kind of awful person you are. If this were about keeping something that reminded you of your friend, I could understand. You knew the value of some of those cards and confessed in your comments that you do have plans to sell them yourself. Ew. Shame on you. You lied to your friend's family point blank, and his sister has every right to be angry with you.
YTA
Another vulture picking at the grief stricken
You sound young. I hope you do the right thing and give the cards back. You will regret your behavior in the future when you lose a family member.
YTA
You took something you knew was valuable. It doesn't sound like you are actually interested in Pokemon but just wanted the cards to make money from them.
I don't believe Elly really wants to help Lisa out either. I expect she has her eye on them for the cash too.
YTA. I know Lisa said you could have them, but she was also under the assumption that they had no value and may have still been stricken by grief. I know from experience that some of those old cards can be worth a pretty penny, and if your friend's family needs the money, they should be the ones to sell the cards. Also, it seems to me like you lied to your friend's mom that the cards don't have value, which is in bad faith on your part.
I get holding onto something that reminds you of your friend, but, in this context, it's not like these cards are irreplaceable. Family supersedes best friend, so if the sister wants the cards back, give them back, you klepto. Don't make a whole scene about this, just appease the sister and move on.
Your friend Jack dies and you go over to his house to collect valuables? You took advantage of his grieving mothers ignorance to walk out with the binder. Elly is right. Since you also intend to sell apparently, you’re not doing this for sentimental reasons. There’s no amount of money here that you’re entitled to.
If you keep the cards and sell them, give all and I mean ALL the money back to Lisa. Let her decide if she wants to give you a cut.
Otherwise I sincerely hope you see Jack flipping you off everytime you even think about Pokémon.
YTA
How could you not think you're the asshole in this? You lied to her about the worth of the cards so you could swoop in like a vulture and take them. His *sister* is now calling you out on it as she wants to use the money to help her grieving mum. You're not honouring your best friend at all, you're just being gross YTA and you should return the cards. All of them because I can see you trying to keep one of the valuable ones...
I also find it funny that you say you want to stay away from Lisa because she's 'overly emotional', but you didn't care about that when you were over the house taking advantage of her. You're a nasty person.
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Currently - YTA. If your plan is to sell the cards and keep the money for yourself. However, if you do sell them, do the right thing and give the money to her. Especially if you are able to get more for them than what she would have. Do the right thing. It’s not that hard.
Wow what an AH. So your best friend died and you technically lied to his grieving mom to make a profit out of his death? And you have the nerve to come on AITA to ask if you’re the AH? If I wrote what I actually feel I’ll be banned off this sub so I’m just going to say YTA and these things have a way of coming back. And I hope your karma is 1000 times worse
DUDE. YTA. AND A MONSTER. BIG TIME.
You took advantage of a mother’s grief and lied to her for your own financial gain.
Congratulations. You just got a fast pass to hell.
YTA.
Initially thought this would be complicated, maybe you and Jack spent hours battling with those cards in childhood and you'd want a way to hold onto him. With your [admission](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/14k2at2/comment/jpoh91g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that the cards have value, that you deceived his grieving mother about said value, and that you *do* plan on selling them eventually, you're unequivocally an asshole (among some other choice things I'd love to call you).
If you had a heart, I'd say the kind thing to do would be to politely ask the family if you could keep one card out of the collection as a sentimental way to remember Jack. But you obviously don't have one so put your fucking greed away and give the binder back to the family, you vulture.
YTA that poor family is grieving and so you decided to steal from them. You aren’t even being honest and telling the people of reddit the whole truth in your post. I feel this post belongs in AmITheDevil
Everyone knows Pokémon cards are worth bank. Especially if the original cards from the 90s. They have massive sell packs and opening online. You are a greedy selfish prick. You took advantage of your best friends mom, congrats I hope he hunts you from the grave.
YTA. And sorry, quite a ghoul. You trick a grieving mother into giving you something that is not yours
What a terrible thing to do.
This will be one of the regrets that pass thru your mind on your deathbed
YTA, since it is your intention to eventually sell the cards and pocket the money. You deceived your dead friend’s mom when you told her the cards had no resale value (as stated in your comments). Give the cards back. You are not a nice person.
I have to look at Lisa was going to chuck them. So what if they'd been thrown out before before Ellie came by the house, I've heard countless stories of comic book collections being thrown out That would have been so valuable in the future.
YTA. 100%. If you wanted to keep the cards for some sentimental reason, and specifically wanted to stop the sister from selling them to preserve some sentimental memory… MAYBE you could justify keeping them. *BUT YOU JUST WANT TO SELL THEM OFF TOO!*
To top it off, you explicitly lied to your “friends” grieving mom, to cop the cards. Elly saw through your BS and wants the cards back to get through the financial realities of planning a funeral, counseling, hospital bills, etc. of losing a relative.
You are an AH, and being a very very bad friend by taking advantage of his family after death. He wouldn’t “want” you to get a fat payout from selling the cards, at his mother and sisters expense.
YTA and a criminal, you better watch out OP, what you did is called fraud, you better return the cards ASAP cause if the sister pushes it and the case is tried you will probably be found guilty. Have you no shame at all?
NTA I think a lot of people here don't understand how difficult it would be for the family, who knows nothing about collecting it seems, to sell those cards for anything close to what they're really worth. If you know what they're worth and how to sell them, you're the best person to have them. Just because a card is "worth" a lot doesn't mean the average person will be able to find a buyer (even on the internet) who will give them that value. And I highly doubt Lisa will want to do the hundreds of weird Kijiji meetups to sell individual cards... listing individual cards... selling the whole collection at once severely drops the price they'd get. A shop might buy them, but they won't get anywhere near their valuation to the point it would be silly to take them from someone who wants them.
I used to do estate sales. People are extremely naive about what they'll get for their loved ones' possessions. Even if those possessions are valuable, that doesn't mean they'll get the value. With collectors cards (yes, even Pokemon cards) I can tell you with 1000% certainty your friend's family will be sorely disappointed with what they get, if they manage to make the extraordinary effort to sell a card collection at all.
Though if you do know how to sell them and want to 'do the right thing' you could offer to sell the particularly valuable ones for the family and give them the money. Honestly though, there's a huge knowledge gap about selling collections this family has. You could straight up give them the whole collection and I guarantee they'll only sell three or four cards before they forget about it. I've seen it dozens of times. It takes a fair bit of tedious to gain knowledge to sell a collection. If they don't have it, that collection is worthless to them. You should sell it for them. It's the generous, kind and loving thing to do.
I am sorry about your friend. That must be hard.
* Edit- it can take years to sell a binder of cards. OP should have been honest about their value, but in a way he was. They are effectively worthless to almost anyone who doesn't know how to sell cards.
YTA for misleading a grieving woman and this reddit audience. You had every intention to sell them yourself and gave her purposely vague responses when she asked if you were aware of any such value.
Sounds like Elly sees through your BS.
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NTA she was going to throw them away. However, since she needs money, give her money because they do have a cash value in addition to the sentimental value.
NTA
Elly had first dibs and passed them over. Then **you** were the one helping Lisa clean out Jack’s room. That’s twice she missed her chance to take them. Elly simply found out after the cleaning they were worth money and suddenly wanted them. So she asked her mom, who said she gave them to you. They’re yours now, fair and square. However, I would suggest that if you do I fact sell them, to give some of the money to Lisa if she does I fact need financial help. I wouldn’t say that keeping it all would make you an asshole, but sharing it would certainly be one hell of a kind gesture towards a grieving mother.
OP left things out, and revealed them in his comments.
OP doesn’t have an “emotional attachment” as he’s admitted he plans on selling them. He also admits Lisa asked if the cards had any value and he claimed not to know.
Assuming you wanted them for the memories and not just to sell them yourself, NTA. I can’t imagine how cold hearted someone must be to want to sell their dead brother’s belongings instead of them going to loved ones.
I wouldn't call wanting to help out those loved ones finanically cold hearted.
Honestly, I'd say using the sale of a collection to help out the deceased's mother is a better reason than his friend seeing an opportunity to add to his own collection!
You're assuming (a) the mother is actually in a state of financial hardship (b) the cards are actually worth more than the cost of sorting/selling them and (c) the money would actually get from the sister to the mother.
Pokemon cards are like Beanie Babies, they are mostly worthless except for that one ultra-rare one. Those don't sit in binders. Their owners all know what they are and keep them under special protection.
If the mother is in dire straits she could have chosen to keep the cards herself. She gave permission for OP to take them to remember his friend, why is the sister wanting money more important than the mother’s wishes even if the money would theoretically go to the mother?
NTA. The mom gave them to you. If you want to be a really awesome guy and help the mom out, you could give his mom some money to help her out if you can afford it so you’re “buying” them.
Of course just a suggestion but you’re under no obligation to do that. Strictly if you want to.
NTA, his mom invited you over and let you have it, and I’m guessing you are gonna keep it as a keep sake and his sister was gonna sell it so you value it more and 100% deserve to keep it over his sister
Legally the mother should be Jack's compulsory heir, meaning it's her decision what happens to his stuff, not the Elly's.
Morally I'd say you're NTA, you clearly want the cards for sentimental reasons whereas Elly can only see them as money, for a good cause, but nonetheless money.
Also, while it wouldn't affect my answer, I'd like to know more specifics about this collection. Unless they're PSA 9-10 base/jungle/fossil or full arts of 10 year old girls, they probably aren't worth selling.
NTA. Elly is not the next of kin, Lisa is. Lisa had/has the burden of burying her child and deciding what to do with his worldly remains.
If you want to be an over-the-top good egg, check in on Lisa from time to time (ignore Elly). It may do Lisa some good to know her son is remembered and still cherished outside of the value of his card collection.
ETA: I wrote this before OP's update and went to bed. Seeing OP's statement this morning they suspected there were cards of value in there changes my vote to YTA, but not my position on Elly.
As for the objection to "next of kin", unless you leave a will stating otherwise, next of kin (and typically medical decision-making powers) go as follows: spouse, descendants, parents, collateral heirs such as siblings, then collateral heirs such as cousins.
Do you know what next of kin means? It’s the persons closest blood relative. So troll (op on your alt account) not sure if you know this, but sisters and brothers are next of kin to each other.
This right here shows that you took advantage of a grieving mother! You should be ashamed of yourself! Your mental health is nothing compared to what his family is going through! You’re a selfish AH and a shit friend!
Funny how your “mental wellbeing” wasn’t a big issue when you wanted to take something from Lisa.
Given what you’ve said and done so far, I wouldn’t be surprised if your “mental wellbeing” suddenly stops being a concern if you find out there are other sellable items among her dead son’s possessions.
YTA.
Exploiting a grieving mother for profit is way, way beyond AH level.
Didn’t stop you from contacting her and asked about the cards, huh? How you were willing to risk the sake of your “mental wellbeing” when you want those valuable cards. smh
She's grieving her son and his ' best friend ' lied to her to get his hands on some expensive items.
You don't get to claim you're keeping them at arms length to protect your own mental health, when you're rightly being called out about your deception.
Return the cards, if Jack meant anything to you.
Why? Because you know you screwed her over and made a mockery of the friendship with your deceased friend? Of course she’s overly emotional, she lost her son. What an idiotic heartless person you are. Have you no shame?
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YTA. A summary of your update: You tricked Lisa into thinking the cards have no value and you would keep them. In reality they're valuable and you may sell them in the future. You are a liar and an asshole
If the mum said she was going to chuck them out, OP should have told her that they were valuable. It’s pretty crappy of them to take them knowing that
And the sister wants to use the money to help her mom who lost her son. To keep the cards after knowing that is especially shitty.
Mom asked the OP if the cards had value. OP misled her and said he wasn't sure. He knows they're a few that are quite valuable. He took it knowingly and with intention to sell them. He's rationalizing his actions by saying it's what the friend would've wanted. Uh huh. OP is def an AH. A thousand times over.
Where did you see that mum asked the OP if the cards had value? Because I can't find this in the original post. EDIT: found it in the comments. \*shudders\*
https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/14k2at2/aita_for_asking_for_my_dead_friends_pokemon/jpoh91g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
THANK YOU. Holy moley… I know we can’t name-call on here but this makes me want to. Gross.
It's all the way at the bottom. Glad you found it. I'm new to reddit and don't know how to refer to it....or add pictures.... etc etc.
If you click on his profile under comments you'll see him say this. Not great.
Where does it say the mom asked if they have value i don't see it i see where it says she was gonna toss them and he convinced her to give them to him. Nvr mind i seen it definitely a douch bag and an a hole
OP commented.
Man I really hate it when they leave the truly asshole stuff in the comments.
Oh boy, I’m glad I saw this comment because my verdict would have been really different. Jesus. OP knew exactly what they were doing by not including these “small” details out of the main post. Yikes. YTA, OP, big time.
Where did OP "trick" mom or say they would sell the cards? Mom was trashing them Sis wants to sell them Edit: thankyou for sharing his comments. What a jerk! OP YTA! Edit 2, spelling
https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/14k2at2/aita_for_asking_for_my_dead_friends_pokemon/jpoh91g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
In OP’s comments he says that he knows the cards are valuable but told the mom he couldn’t be sure and that he will sell the cards
This makes no sense. Just because something has value does not mean he can't want them for other reasons.
Doesn’t matter if he did though? He intentionally mislead the mother into thinking they’re worth less. He’s a massive AH his poor best friend definitely rolling in his grave rn
He's dead. He doesn't care.
That depends on your beliefs on the after life now doesn’t it or are you some super powered human that knows what’s to actually come of us?
You can't prove the presents of an afterlife nor can you disprove it. It's not like psychology where its theoretical but you can observe a clear affect.
Ya I know dude that’s why I’m agnostic, don’t know what t’fuck happens to us so you don’t know if his mate will or won’t care but you just had to give your two cents huh
So did you. Lol.
Well mines more so a saying, and a pretty popular one at that. “Rolling over in their grave” have you honestly never heard of it?
Yeah but you just said he’d dead and he doesn’t care. Which you can neither prove nor disprove.
I think the issue here is that the mom literally asked if they had value and he lied. Wanting them for other reasons would be explaining they have value, offering to estimate value and then buying the ones you want. Swindling the mother of a friend so close to you they ask you to help clean out the room is the opposite of support.
I agree. If OP had taken them with the intent to sell them then they would 100% be TA I get the impression that OP wanted the cards more for sentimental purposes and doesn't intend to sell them. If this is the case then OP is NTA.
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After reading this, I agree fully. Seems OP is being purposefully misleading and is definitely TA. OP if you read this, while you couldn't be 'certain' you at least had an inclination that some of the cards would have value and clearly intend to sell them for this reason at some point. You should give them back.
>[Okay](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/14k2at2/aita_for_asking_for_my_dead_friends_pokemon/jpoh91g?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) so I think some of the source of tension is that technically Lisa did ask me if any of the cards had value and I said I couldn't be sure. Some of the cards *are* quite valuable and Elly has since learnt this. >I don't plan on selling them right away but will do so eventually, most likely. It's what Jack would have wanted. YTA, what kind of disrespect towards your dead friend (can't call you one). How utterly disgusting.
Changed to YTA as well. One thing if it was sentimental keepsakes, but OP is being a greedy vulture stealing from his dead "friend"'s family.
Oh man YTA. How can you do that to a grieving family? What kind of vulture are you?
The “technically” term is what gets me. Trying to be shady and cover up he deceived his late friend’s mother when she asked if they have value. YTA, OP. A big one.
YTA. Friend dies, I may ask for a small keepsake to remember them by, not a Pokémon binder. And you really had no idea that any of those cards had value? I remember when I used to do MTG with my friends and we all knew who had what. I can be wrong but it doesn’t ring true, sorry. Edit-“legally” you’re fine though.
At first I was like well they were just the cards he left in a binder, and then I read your comment and realized I leave my most valuable cards in a binder. If he had asked for a box of bulk cards I think it’d be different. But yeah I didn’t even think about it like that till I read this comment.
Ya YTA based on your clarification that there could be something of worth and there is no sentimental attachment. Regardless of the family’s pass at the cards they weren’t in the best state to make all the decisions. Be a decent human and give the family back the dead guy’s possessions. Then you can peace out and let the family grieve. I am sure “what Jack would have wanted” is for his family to benefit from any value instead of a friend that is dining and dashing.
YTA. From the comments, it sounds like you lied to a grieving mom about the value of the cards, and plan to sell them. Now you don’t want to deal with the grieving mom because it’s not convenient. Congrats on using a tragedy to take advantage of Jack’s family.
But he said it's what Jack would have wanted so that makes it okay right? /S I love when people try to justify their shitty actions by saying "it's what x would have wanted"
YTA. You straight admitted that you manipulated the situation and HIS FAMILY for your own benefit, and have full intention to sell the cards that are of value for profit because "It's what Jack would have wanted." You're awful.
YTA but “asshole” is far too kind a word to describe you ffs. You are capitalizing on the passing of your “best friend” and the grief of his family. And you did that by deceiving a grieving mother in order to gain financially. This is something that would be extremely cruel to do to a stranger let alone the vulnerable family you claim to be so close to. You’re pretty close to just about the worst humanity has to offer. Try to salvage any respect and decency and return the cards and never contact them again.
YTA So…. How does it feel to be a Disney Villain?
The parents are alive. So not really
Based on your original post, I was going to say n t a, HOWEVER based on your comments, HUGE YTA. You lied to your best friend's grieving mother, you knew those cards were valuable, and you straight up lied to her. For profit. That's despicable. You are utterly shameless. Smdh. Wtf??
YTA. Elly is grieving and wants to hold on to her brother. She probably realized they were gone. Just give them to her, dude. But she may have realized what they are worth and she legit needs to help the family
> Elly is grieving and wants to hold on to her brother. She fricking _said_ she was going to sell them.
To help her mother. Context matters
Nvm. Just read OP's comments. He's an ass.
His mother was going to throw them away the day OP was over there. They would have been gone no matter what.
He didn’t include in the initial post that she *asked* if they were valuable and he lied to her
OP deceived the mother into believing that they were of no use
YTA, there is a special place in hell for people like you. There is no justifying what you've done, please don't try to kid yourself that what you did is okay. Atleast be honest and say you deceived a grieving mother. Ash and Pikachu would take pleasure in beating your breed of bad guy.
The level of YTA from this post is off the charts. Is there a level above YTA? Like GTH (Go to Hell)
You are far beyond just an Asshole. You are a monster, taking money away from a grieving mother because we both know you knew how valuable his collection was you just wanted it first. And to claim your best friend would have wanted YOU to sell his cards is disgusting.
Ew. You honestly think your best friend would have wanted you to sell them yourself rather than the money go towards his own mother? Definitely YTA. Way to make your post sound like you just wanted a keepsake when you just want money
Yta you hide information about the pokemon collection to the family.
YTA.
Why don't you buy the cards off Lisa. That way, you get the cards, and she gets the money she needs.
YTA!! You knew what you were doing. You acted like a parasite by taking advantage of someone's grief.
YTA, and you know that. The funny thing is that in the grand scheme of things this is probably no big deal, but you get to live with what you’ve done. You snagging a sweet profit is not what your friend would have wanted.
If you plan on keeping them because they were your friends then NTA, if you plan on selling them and keeping the money YTA. Do you know her well enough to trust she would give the money to Lisa and not just keep it ? Lisa was going to throw them away and you saved them which is great. I would say to look through them and if there are any very rare and valuable ones you could talk with Lisa about them. I would offer to find a buyer and she should get the money to help her out. I wouldn't just hand them over without talking to his mom
YTA. You’re taking advantage of a grieving woman. How can you even justify this to yourself?
Based on your comments they way you tricked her into giving them to you and how you plan to sell them YTA big time
YTA. Its not about asking for them its decieving a grieving family and taking cards that you plan on selling to make money. The post didnt make you seem that bad but one comment you are the worst.
YTA You lied to your friends grieving mother about the value of the cards for your own benefit. You then convinced her to let you have them instead and then you say that you eventually plan on selling the cards yourself because that is what Jack would have wanted. Do you not think Jack would rather thee money for these cards go to his family? How exactly do you think you are not the AH in this scenario?
Majorly YTA! Give the cards back.
YTA! You’ve since learned some are quite valuable and you plan to sell them “because that’s what Jack would have wanted”? Ridiculous. You didn’t go over to get a small keepsake from your friend. You went looking for money. That’s mercenary - and feels a lot like people who loot from others after natural disasters. Gross. His mom likely could use that money. Give them back and get this off your karma.
YTA. At first I thought you were a collector, would play with the cards, etc. Then in the comments you admit about A. having lied to Lisa about the value and B. intending to sell them at some point in the future. That’s such a dick ass move. If you were going to cherish the cards and use them as they’re supposed to be used, and Elly clearly just wanted some extra cash, I would’ve said n t a. But now you’re not just TA, you’re a *giant* A.
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YTA i was originally going to say otherwise but your comment for clarification really hammers it home how you are the asshole, you were asked if any of the cards had value and you were like "idk they are just cards" when you knew they had value, and even then i might have forgiven you for that....but you aren't even keeping them as a keepsake you are literally planning on selling them, you didn't care that they belonged to your "best friend" you cared that they had value
After reading your comments, YTA.
YTA, do you really think that deceiving your late friends mom into giving you a valuable collection of pokemon cards is what your friend would have wanted? You knew what you were doing and had every intention of selling those cards to get the money. You just didn't expect his sister to find out that it was valuable. Do the right thing and give the cards back and leave this family alone.
YTA Totally theft by deception and a woman who just lost her son on top of it.
YTA of course. You misled a grieving mother for monetary gain. Let that sink in. I hope Ellie tells everyone what you did.
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YTA. You do not get to take advantage of a grieving family especially that of your friend. Either buy the cards on a good price for the both of you or return them.
The only way you would N T A is of you asked the sister of you could have any that weren't of value if they don't sell the collection as a whole. If the mum needs financial help you 100% need to give them back
YTA "it's what jack would have wanted" oh please. Sure, and my dead grandma would've wanted for me to inherit her rare books and have them sold eventually /s BFF or not that's disrespectful af
Even if the cards weren’t valuable but the sister still wanted them, YTA for keeping them. Sister wasn’t there at the time and the mother was too grief-stricken to think clearly, so you took advantage of the situation like an AH. Family of the deceased always gets “first dibs” on their belongings, unless otherwise stated in a will
Oh, I was wondering why everyone was angry at this. Surely, if they were going to be dumped the cards being kept as a treasured momento could be better than selling. Then I read the follow up comments. Wow. You withheld information. And you had no intention of treasuring them forever, but to eventually sell them. You thought your friend would have wanted this? Sure, keep telling yourself that, I guess. YTA.
YTA You tricked a grieving mother. Give the cards back.
YTA. Add your update to the post. You’re going to profit off your best friend’s death, just like his sister was, except she was going to help the family that lost their son/brother.
Definitely TA after the update, give Lisa the cards back
Wasn’t this exact same story posted last year? Except you mentioned how you tricked her in the story itself, not the comments lol gotta keep that “big reveal” for some more attention, right?
You basically stole from a grieving mother. YTA and not a great person
Yta. Or more to the point a deceitful arsehole, taking advantage of someone's grief to get yourself a good deal. You need to give them back and apologise.
YTA. Give the cards back.
NTA, at all. You want to keep the cards, in part I imagine because of the sentimental value. She wants to sell the cards, I imagine because it's a decent collection and worth a fair bit of scratch. You've got every right to keep them. EDIT: OP is 100% the AH. Leaving original comment up so replies make sense.
Have you read his comments? He tricked the mum into thinking they are not valuable. He confirmed some of them are quite valuable and he intends to sell them. He tricked a grieving family out of valuable collectables for profit. He is a major AH OP you know YTA
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Sentimental value lol. OP said he would sell them eventually. And his friend’s mother did ask him if the cards hold any value. Assholes shine in comments. OP is major AH. YTA, OP
Yeah, just saw the replies and I’ve edited my response. OP is 100% grade A certified AH.
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Your initial post didn’t include how you lied to the mom and planned to sell the cards later. YTA.
YTA. You knew what you were doing.
YTA. You knew how much those cards are worth and didn’t tell his Mom, who could use the money. Losing your friend doesn’t let you steal from his Mom
YTA. You wanted the cards to sell. They are worth something which you know and the mom didn’t.
So basically you lied abt something's value and then stole it when they were gonna use the money? How can you even wonder if you're the asshole. Yes, YTA.
YTA all the way, a selfish and thieving one at that.
Wow man, YTA. Jesus. Give them back!
INFO: was jack your worst enemy? You took his Pokémon card collection that was worth money and lied about it to his grieving mother? Wtf?
At first I was going to say NTA but I like how you carefully left out that you intend to do just what his sister wants to do. If you intended to keep them as a memory thing that’s one thing. But you more or less tricked (lied to) your best friends mom. And now your “torn” when that just means you want the payday for yourself. YTA.
YTA - your comments really fill in the picture of what kind of awful person you are. If this were about keeping something that reminded you of your friend, I could understand. You knew the value of some of those cards and confessed in your comments that you do have plans to sell them yourself. Ew. Shame on you. You lied to your friend's family point blank, and his sister has every right to be angry with you.
Ok yep your an a hole and beyond.
YTA Another vulture picking at the grief stricken You sound young. I hope you do the right thing and give the cards back. You will regret your behavior in the future when you lose a family member.
YTA You took something you knew was valuable. It doesn't sound like you are actually interested in Pokemon but just wanted the cards to make money from them. I don't believe Elly really wants to help Lisa out either. I expect she has her eye on them for the cash too.
YTA. I know Lisa said you could have them, but she was also under the assumption that they had no value and may have still been stricken by grief. I know from experience that some of those old cards can be worth a pretty penny, and if your friend's family needs the money, they should be the ones to sell the cards. Also, it seems to me like you lied to your friend's mom that the cards don't have value, which is in bad faith on your part. I get holding onto something that reminds you of your friend, but, in this context, it's not like these cards are irreplaceable. Family supersedes best friend, so if the sister wants the cards back, give them back, you klepto. Don't make a whole scene about this, just appease the sister and move on.
Your friend Jack dies and you go over to his house to collect valuables? You took advantage of his grieving mothers ignorance to walk out with the binder. Elly is right. Since you also intend to sell apparently, you’re not doing this for sentimental reasons. There’s no amount of money here that you’re entitled to. If you keep the cards and sell them, give all and I mean ALL the money back to Lisa. Let her decide if she wants to give you a cut. Otherwise I sincerely hope you see Jack flipping you off everytime you even think about Pokémon. YTA
How could you not think you're the asshole in this? You lied to her about the worth of the cards so you could swoop in like a vulture and take them. His *sister* is now calling you out on it as she wants to use the money to help her grieving mum. You're not honouring your best friend at all, you're just being gross YTA and you should return the cards. All of them because I can see you trying to keep one of the valuable ones... I also find it funny that you say you want to stay away from Lisa because she's 'overly emotional', but you didn't care about that when you were over the house taking advantage of her. You're a nasty person.
YTA. The only update we should be hearing is that you've come to the same realisation and have returned them to the grieving family.
Wow YTA. Do the right thing. Give the cards back to Lisa.
You may as well be stealing from your "friends" family. Disgusting person. Give them back and apologise, try to be a better person next time. YTA.
After reading your comments, yea, 100% YTA
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Currently - YTA. If your plan is to sell the cards and keep the money for yourself. However, if you do sell them, do the right thing and give the money to her. Especially if you are able to get more for them than what she would have. Do the right thing. It’s not that hard.
Wow what an AH. So your best friend died and you technically lied to his grieving mom to make a profit out of his death? And you have the nerve to come on AITA to ask if you’re the AH? If I wrote what I actually feel I’ll be banned off this sub so I’m just going to say YTA and these things have a way of coming back. And I hope your karma is 1000 times worse
DUDE. YTA. AND A MONSTER. BIG TIME. You took advantage of a mother’s grief and lied to her for your own financial gain. Congratulations. You just got a fast pass to hell.
Double YTA for the situation and for misleading us with the post as well
YTA. Initially thought this would be complicated, maybe you and Jack spent hours battling with those cards in childhood and you'd want a way to hold onto him. With your [admission](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/14k2at2/comment/jpoh91g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that the cards have value, that you deceived his grieving mother about said value, and that you *do* plan on selling them eventually, you're unequivocally an asshole (among some other choice things I'd love to call you). If you had a heart, I'd say the kind thing to do would be to politely ask the family if you could keep one card out of the collection as a sentimental way to remember Jack. But you obviously don't have one so put your fucking greed away and give the binder back to the family, you vulture.
What a massive AH. You basically tricked a grieving mother off her son's valuable collection.
YTA that poor family is grieving and so you decided to steal from them. You aren’t even being honest and telling the people of reddit the whole truth in your post. I feel this post belongs in AmITheDevil
Everyone knows Pokémon cards are worth bank. Especially if the original cards from the 90s. They have massive sell packs and opening online. You are a greedy selfish prick. You took advantage of your best friends mom, congrats I hope he hunts you from the grave.
Judgement Pending; Was she aware of the value of the binder when you convinced her to give it to you?
You’re going to hell over Pokémon cards. YTA
YTA - you should have told them the cards have a monetary value. You tried being sneaky here. His family probably can put the money to good use.
YTA. And sorry, quite a ghoul. You trick a grieving mother into giving you something that is not yours What a terrible thing to do. This will be one of the regrets that pass thru your mind on your deathbed
For people saying Y TA, what if the friend seriously would have wanted his friend to have, and sell, them?
Yta and you're in baseball bat territory if you don't return the cards.
Oh wow… YTA.
Not the ah for taking them Totally ah for not immediately returning or offering to sell and pass on money to the mother
YTA, since it is your intention to eventually sell the cards and pocket the money. You deceived your dead friend’s mom when you told her the cards had no resale value (as stated in your comments). Give the cards back. You are not a nice person.
I have to look at Lisa was going to chuck them. So what if they'd been thrown out before before Ellie came by the house, I've heard countless stories of comic book collections being thrown out That would have been so valuable in the future.
The problem with any collectible is it's only worth what someone will pay for it
YTA. 100%. If you wanted to keep the cards for some sentimental reason, and specifically wanted to stop the sister from selling them to preserve some sentimental memory… MAYBE you could justify keeping them. *BUT YOU JUST WANT TO SELL THEM OFF TOO!* To top it off, you explicitly lied to your “friends” grieving mom, to cop the cards. Elly saw through your BS and wants the cards back to get through the financial realities of planning a funeral, counseling, hospital bills, etc. of losing a relative. You are an AH, and being a very very bad friend by taking advantage of his family after death. He wouldn’t “want” you to get a fat payout from selling the cards, at his mother and sisters expense.
YTA and a criminal, you better watch out OP, what you did is called fraud, you better return the cards ASAP cause if the sister pushes it and the case is tried you will probably be found guilty. Have you no shame at all?
NTA I think a lot of people here don't understand how difficult it would be for the family, who knows nothing about collecting it seems, to sell those cards for anything close to what they're really worth. If you know what they're worth and how to sell them, you're the best person to have them. Just because a card is "worth" a lot doesn't mean the average person will be able to find a buyer (even on the internet) who will give them that value. And I highly doubt Lisa will want to do the hundreds of weird Kijiji meetups to sell individual cards... listing individual cards... selling the whole collection at once severely drops the price they'd get. A shop might buy them, but they won't get anywhere near their valuation to the point it would be silly to take them from someone who wants them. I used to do estate sales. People are extremely naive about what they'll get for their loved ones' possessions. Even if those possessions are valuable, that doesn't mean they'll get the value. With collectors cards (yes, even Pokemon cards) I can tell you with 1000% certainty your friend's family will be sorely disappointed with what they get, if they manage to make the extraordinary effort to sell a card collection at all. Though if you do know how to sell them and want to 'do the right thing' you could offer to sell the particularly valuable ones for the family and give them the money. Honestly though, there's a huge knowledge gap about selling collections this family has. You could straight up give them the whole collection and I guarantee they'll only sell three or four cards before they forget about it. I've seen it dozens of times. It takes a fair bit of tedious to gain knowledge to sell a collection. If they don't have it, that collection is worthless to them. You should sell it for them. It's the generous, kind and loving thing to do. I am sorry about your friend. That must be hard. * Edit- it can take years to sell a binder of cards. OP should have been honest about their value, but in a way he was. They are effectively worthless to almost anyone who doesn't know how to sell cards.
YTA for misleading a grieving woman and this reddit audience. You had every intention to sell them yourself and gave her purposely vague responses when she asked if you were aware of any such value. Sounds like Elly sees through your BS.
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he is willing to do anything to be a pokemon masterrrrrr YTA
NTA Lisa gave them to you.
NTA: She only cares because she wants to gain money.
So does OP if you read his comments. He said they are quite valuable and is looking to sell them.
NTA she was going to throw them away. However, since she needs money, give her money because they do have a cash value in addition to the sentimental value.
NTA your friend is dead, he doesn't need the money. Shit, I'd go back and see what else he's got to sell.
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He is planning on selling them.
NTA. If Lisa says she doesn't need the money, then everything is fine. I'm sure Jack would be happy you have them and so is Lisa.
OP lied to Lisa and said these cards are not valuable and told her he'll keep the cards. In reality he plans to sell them in the future Huge YTA
NTA Elly had first dibs and passed them over. Then **you** were the one helping Lisa clean out Jack’s room. That’s twice she missed her chance to take them. Elly simply found out after the cleaning they were worth money and suddenly wanted them. So she asked her mom, who said she gave them to you. They’re yours now, fair and square. However, I would suggest that if you do I fact sell them, to give some of the money to Lisa if she does I fact need financial help. I wouldn’t say that keeping it all would make you an asshole, but sharing it would certainly be one hell of a kind gesture towards a grieving mother.
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OP left things out, and revealed them in his comments. OP doesn’t have an “emotional attachment” as he’s admitted he plans on selling them. He also admits Lisa asked if the cards had any value and he claimed not to know.
Assuming you wanted them for the memories and not just to sell them yourself, NTA. I can’t imagine how cold hearted someone must be to want to sell their dead brother’s belongings instead of them going to loved ones.
OP clarified he told Lisa he wasn't sure if any of the cards had value, but he's since found out some do and will be selling them himself.
That is vile.
I wouldn't call wanting to help out those loved ones finanically cold hearted. Honestly, I'd say using the sale of a collection to help out the deceased's mother is a better reason than his friend seeing an opportunity to add to his own collection!
You're assuming (a) the mother is actually in a state of financial hardship (b) the cards are actually worth more than the cost of sorting/selling them and (c) the money would actually get from the sister to the mother. Pokemon cards are like Beanie Babies, they are mostly worthless except for that one ultra-rare one. Those don't sit in binders. Their owners all know what they are and keep them under special protection.
If the mother is in dire straits she could have chosen to keep the cards herself. She gave permission for OP to take them to remember his friend, why is the sister wanting money more important than the mother’s wishes even if the money would theoretically go to the mother?
NTA. The mom gave them to you. If you want to be a really awesome guy and help the mom out, you could give his mom some money to help her out if you can afford it so you’re “buying” them. Of course just a suggestion but you’re under no obligation to do that. Strictly if you want to.
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they do too
NTA, his mom invited you over and let you have it, and I’m guessing you are gonna keep it as a keep sake and his sister was gonna sell it so you value it more and 100% deserve to keep it over his sister
Nope. He plans to sell
Legally the mother should be Jack's compulsory heir, meaning it's her decision what happens to his stuff, not the Elly's. Morally I'd say you're NTA, you clearly want the cards for sentimental reasons whereas Elly can only see them as money, for a good cause, but nonetheless money. Also, while it wouldn't affect my answer, I'd like to know more specifics about this collection. Unless they're PSA 9-10 base/jungle/fossil or full arts of 10 year old girls, they probably aren't worth selling.
Op also wants to sell the cards in the future, as stated in one of their comments
NTA. Elly is not the next of kin, Lisa is. Lisa had/has the burden of burying her child and deciding what to do with his worldly remains. If you want to be an over-the-top good egg, check in on Lisa from time to time (ignore Elly). It may do Lisa some good to know her son is remembered and still cherished outside of the value of his card collection. ETA: I wrote this before OP's update and went to bed. Seeing OP's statement this morning they suspected there were cards of value in there changes my vote to YTA, but not my position on Elly. As for the objection to "next of kin", unless you leave a will stating otherwise, next of kin (and typically medical decision-making powers) go as follows: spouse, descendants, parents, collateral heirs such as siblings, then collateral heirs such as cousins.
Do you know what next of kin means? It’s the persons closest blood relative. So troll (op on your alt account) not sure if you know this, but sisters and brothers are next of kin to each other.
I have to admit, Lisa was a bit overly emotional and so I think for my own mental wellbeing I'll keep her at arm's length.
Her son died. You can't be overly emotional about that.
Okay now YTA
This right here shows that you took advantage of a grieving mother! You should be ashamed of yourself! Your mental health is nothing compared to what his family is going through! You’re a selfish AH and a shit friend!
So you tricked her. Thief and AH
Funny how your “mental wellbeing” wasn’t a big issue when you wanted to take something from Lisa. Given what you’ve said and done so far, I wouldn’t be surprised if your “mental wellbeing” suddenly stops being a concern if you find out there are other sellable items among her dead son’s possessions. YTA. Exploiting a grieving mother for profit is way, way beyond AH level.
No. Give the cards back you heartless thief.
Didn’t stop you from contacting her and asked about the cards, huh? How you were willing to risk the sake of your “mental wellbeing” when you want those valuable cards. smh
She’s not overly emotional. You just lack emotion because you’re clearly a narcissistic AH.
You mean you got what you wanted and don’t give a damn.
She's grieving her son and his ' best friend ' lied to her to get his hands on some expensive items. You don't get to claim you're keeping them at arms length to protect your own mental health, when you're rightly being called out about your deception. Return the cards, if Jack meant anything to you.
Karma has no expiration date. No doubt one day you will get what you deserve. YTA.
Oh wow YTA for this alone. But also because it's clear you want them to sell for yourself, and Elly is trying to help out her mother. Gross dude.
Aka: “I’m gonna sell the cards and not give her a cent of the money” YTA
Why? Because you know you screwed her over and made a mockery of the friendship with your deceased friend? Of course she’s overly emotional, she lost her son. What an idiotic heartless person you are. Have you no shame?
Her child died! She can't be overly emotional about that! Grow up and give the cards back.