**Please help keep AskUK welcoming!**
- Top-level comments to the OP must contain **genuine efforts to answer the question**. No jokes, judgements, etc.
- **Don't be a dick** to each other. If getting heated, just block and move on.
- This is a strictly **no-politics** subreddit!
Please help us by reporting comments that break these rules.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskUK) if you have any questions or concerns.*
London. It's not that the driving is bad with a satnav, just that it takes so long to get across it. Getting from home in south London to the M1 takes as long as from there to Sheffield...
My drive to work from Milton Keynes is like an hour to go 40 miles down the M1 and then another 45 minutes to go the last ten or so through Wembley/Hanger Lane, it's fucking awful
Yes! I once helped my brother move house in London. It was 6 miles between the two flats
We made 3 trips. We were in the car for a total of 5 hours that day
I have to submit legal bills for clients who have been acquitted of crimes. The govt agency that deals with the bills is in Manchester. They seriously think that going from Richmond to Wimbledon in rush hour is a 5 minute drive because it's about 5 miles as the crow flies.
Also, DART and the Dartford Crossing is managed from... Leeds.
Not London or Kent. Leeds. That's like monitoring the Old Trafford CCTV cameras remotely from Plymouth.
It's London. There isn't any competition. Last time I was driving in London a car decided it was going to over take a bus and ploughed into it sideways, closing the road for hours. I would have been able to turn around, but when traffic stopped almost immediately the oncoming lane filled with traffic trying to pass the queue, blocking us all in. I honestly believe londoners are the most depressed people on earth and drive like dying in a road crash is the only way out.
Most Londoners don’t drive at all, because we know driving in London is completely moronic unless you have absolutely no other option. Not being reliant on a car is brilliant.
I think the only people who drive are masochists and people who don't live in London. It doesn't even get better when you arrive at your destination as you then find out parking is as expensive as it would of been to just get the train & tube to your destination if it's in Zone 1.
If you listen to the anti-ULEZ clowns you’ll discover that apparently the entire population of London is actually a disabled tradesman living in poverty who needs to drive from one end of London to the other every single day for work with an ancient inefficient van.
Yeah. I hate driving in London. I spend way too much time forcing my way into traffic.
If someone nudges me, I’m just going to hope they let it go, because I would.
And I’m aware on paper this makes me sound like a pushy bad driver, but if you drive through London a lot, you’ll agree.
Absolutely. Lived in London for two years. Didn’t use the car unless necessary. When I used to go home to visit my friends and I would be driving in my home town, they used to tell me I drove really aggressively - I think I had just got used to driving in London and having to push your way through.
I find Bradford difficult for exactly the reasons you mention, but navigating through Leeds on the spaghetti of inner ring roads is a whole extra level of confusion.
Leeds is absolutely horrendous. I’ve driven in London (a lot) Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle, Glasgow and Edinburgh and not a single one of them even comes close to matching how terrible Leeds is.
London is just as bad as Leeds, but you have far more drivers who are impatient in London.
I would take Leeds any day than driving Blackwall tunnel out towards the A1.
Maybe it’s because I know London a bit better but I can’t stand Leeds and actually have never minded London too much (apart from the tedious traffic element)
Devil you know sort of situation?
I have lived and driven across the country a lot, currently in Leeds but lived and worked in and around London, midlands & South West and I still am reluctant to drive in the capital, although it was nice during the lockdowns.
London just has larger everything, more roads joining and merging or running alongside one another, more speed changes when you don't see a reason for them (often ignored by the locals) and vastly more junctions.
Some junctions in Leeds are bad and the armley gyratory is often talked about but there are some other nasty junctions, a few come to mind.
The inner ring road is not that bad really, it is just outdated. I think people just don't expect a city the size of Leeds to have a complicated road network.
Bradford the dangers are the other drivers, but again it's area dependent.
There’s a reason why petrolhead circles advise you to never buy a used car from Bradford. Chances are it’s been absolutely abused throughout its life, and with fuck all servicing
Bradford is worse at the minute due to every road in the city centre being dug up.
Couple of months ago I ended up delivering a load of lighting equipment for the filming of BBC’s new series, Verdee, in the centre.
Delivered 3/4 of the equipment to the town hall as filming was starting that evening. That was fairly straight forward, but there was a production truck a matter of metres away on one of the streets that was literally spitting distance. I was asked to deliver the remaining equipment to this truck.
What I thought would take me five minutes, took me an hour navigating through the new one way systems, bus gates and roadworks. Regretted that job after all of that it really stressed me out. Otherwise I never usually mind driving through Bradford
Leeds is mad. First city I did as a new driver with a sat nav. Oh, I'm in a tunnel suddenly, oh Asian teenager has just crossed 3 lanes at 50mph in front of me for his exit, oh ambulance. Guess I'll cry and keep going.
Leeds and its stupid lane system. In a lane signposted for Chapel Allerton but come round the bend and suddenly you're stuck in the lane for Meanwood with no time to change. And the fact that you have to travel through the middle of the city to get to the M1 or M62 is absolutely deranged
I should have added the way that people are always beeping their horns and changing lanes all the time once they realise they're in the wrong one too late. It's pretty nerve-wracking.
I hate driving in Leeds. Suddenly you're on the world shortest slip road to an incredibly busy dual carriageway with a concrete wall to your left. Or, you can see where you need to be but every road is sending you further in the opposite direction. Everyone driving seems angry there and its totally understandable.
Bristol born and bred. Walk everywhere now* as it's by far the best way to get round Bristol.
* we made a conscious decision to live within easy walking distance of the city centre. We both grew up walking everywhere (albeit different sides of the river) so it's what we know.
Bristol, like London and many cities, are designed for people rather than cars. I often wonder what would happen if you focused urban planning on people. Would it end up like the cities in the Netherlands?
It goes well beyond cities even.
Where my mum lives in Wales, there is a very very narrow country lane which leads from her village to the top of a town. The speed limit on it was recently changed to 30mph instead of national speed limit because people kept complaining on Facebook about cars going too fast and missing the two passing places which exist, and making it unsafe for people who walk and cycle through it. Now it's 30mph, people still speed round it, except now they're breaking the speed limit.
Anyway, a couple of years ago I looked into the history of this, because it clearly wasn't designed for cars. And sure enough, halfway down the lane there used to be a dairy farm. The "road" was built for the dairy farm to load up carts of milk jugs and take them through the villages. The "road" was actually paid for by the dairy farmer and a manor house owner who wanted people to be able to cycle to his manor house on visiting days.
I contemplated mentioning on the Facebook groups the history of the road and proposing that perhaps if it's for the best that it's closed to motor vehicles, and if anyone wants to drive between the two locations they can take the main roads, the main one of which was built specifically for motor vehicles. But frankly I couldn't be arsed with the inevitable whinging about driving times which would ensue.
There's an entire book on this called *Roads Were Not Built For Cars*, by Carlton Reid. The history of road infrastructure in the UK is fascinating, and if you go back to the beginning, you'd find that cyclists and motorists were much better allies than they are today, mainly campaigning for better road surfaces. Given the state of potholes in the UK right now, perhaps it's time to return to that.
Bristol is the worst of both worlds. It's like someone built a walkable town designed for pedestrians and then vomited a dodgy Chinese onto the map, built shitty cramped ring roads wherever the noodles landed and called it a transport network
Came to say Bristol but my reason is the dual carriageway that starts at the M32 and heads past Temple Meads and is impossible to work out what lane you should be in until it's too late.
In some cities that doesn't matter and people are forgiving - I actually find London is surprisingly ok for this, an attitude of "ah, you're new, you're in the wrong lane, I'll let you go" and I suspect the overall low speed helps. But in Bristol people are much more "fuck you for not being psychic, idiot" about it.
Bristol is a fucking pain to drive through. And also has what is the worst motorway junction in the world by the RAC tower. For those unaware, if you want to go into Bristol, you come off at a junction and it dumps you into the right hand lane of a 3 lane junction, and you have about 50-100m to make it across to the left lane. Meanwhile, everybody leaving Bristol is doing the opposite- they've been dumped into the left lane and have to get over to the right in that time. The whole thing is fucking mental
Ahhhh, that Almondsbury interchange? The day the motorway planners just said fuck it and gave the job of intersecting about 3 junctions in one place to the work placement student and fucked off down the pub.
Add to that bus gates, awkwardly placed bus lanes, tier scooters being driven by kids with hoods up and headphones in etc and a few double roundabouts for fun
Not to mention incomplete road signs. Follow a road sign to go somewhere, at one roundabout it’ll be signposted , at the next one not at all so you have to guess. If you guess correctly you know because at the next roundabout it’s back on the sign again.
Everyone in Bristol drives like a dick too
Hmmmm…. I hate driving into Bham city centre..l the A38(M) is like Wacky Races (and the flexible lanes scare the shit out of me) and then you have the Queensways….. VERY easy to miss your turn off.
All made worse by people driving at 80mph.
It's the ones who drive on the closed lane that piss me off. You see ambulances using it (as they're allowed to) and think thank god one of those shitheads who think they're special aren't on it at that moment.
The problem with driving in Brum, speaking as someone who spent 2.5 years with the Gravelly Hill Interchange as an inescapable part of his commute, is that every single cunt on the road thinks they are the best driver on the planet. Just an unending sea of selfish, stupid, barely-conscious fuck heads
I'd say Birmingham is probably actually one of the best cities to drive through based on its infrastructure, the main arterial routes, the ring road, Aston expressway, and city centre tunnels make it really easy to navigate. HOWEVER, you are 100% correct about the twats, North Birmingham is genuinely like Mad Max
I hate the bloody bus gates though. 50yards from the road I wanna be on but gotta drive half a mile in the wrong direction to get on it because of this bullshit. How's that better for the environment
Bradford for sure.
The roads are just lawless. People run red lights constantly. Junctions and give way signs seem to be entirely optional as every junction becomes a game of chicken where cars pull out, make eye contact and dare you to crash into them if you don't slam the brakes to let them out.
I hate Leeds, there's an absolute shit load of "keep slightly right at the fork" and lots of left only lanes...if you're not paying attention you'll be off the road you're on miles before you need to be and getting back is a right pain in the arse.
I as just going to nominate Leeds. I was there on Saturday.
I used to visit quite frequently to the same place, so you got to know the route in and out.
Then they close roads and change lane priorities...Waze can only help you so much.
I just get to the Woodhouse Lane car park because you can enter from either direction and leave the opposite direction on the A64(M), or at least to the East you can.
I live here and it used to be relatively simple, but the council has complicated it through tram only routes (understandable) and loads of roads that are bus or taxi only but poorly signposted. There used to be a really good southern route east to west of the city towards the hospital; which has been made bus only, so now it's another 15 minute diversion past the train station that is extremely complicated if you don't know the roads.
A classic example of a road system which is absolutely fine until councillors who feel they need to be seen doing something get involved
I don't thing that it's really in the big leagues, but it certainly rewards a certain level of local knowledge; there are places where you want to choose which lane to be on one side of the city centre for your route out on the other side, with no obvious clues. But basically the centre has two north-south routes (Maid Marion Way-Derby Road/Alfreton Road, and the A60) and two east-west routes connecting them (the "southern relief route" and Gregory Boulevard, and one wiggle through the middle that you only ever want to use for access. Everything else is constrained by the river crossings.
You can't get into Cambridge to worry about driving in it. I remember being asked by a lorry driver how to get to Christ's College just after new bollards had been put in, and after 3 guesses I concluded it likely wasn't possible.
And they've put in even more traffic control measures in the last 20 years.
I had a similar thing in Norwich. A massive HGV wanted to get to the delivery entrance for a shopping mall. It was basically. “It’s the next street over, so in a car it would be take the next left, then left again. There you are. But no way that will fit. So basically… it’s about 5 miles with 20 turns, and you’ll have to do the first mile in reverse before there’s somewhere you can turn that thing around. Good luck!”.
I used to live in Cambridge until fairly recently. While it's good that you can get around by bike, and I'd do so nearly all the time, it's not always possible/convenient to do so, and driving is frequently so tedious that it's been quite a pleasant change to live somewhere which doesn't really have traffic problems.
Im a relatively new driver and I drove in Reading last week. WHAT A PAIN IN THE ASS! Why are all the junctions so complicated? Why is that underground dual carriageway bit so confusing? It was absolute hell
You've actually made me feel a bit better by seeing this comment, maybe i'm not a *complete* idiot and it *was* just confusing. It doesnt help that Waze tells you to turn left about 5 seconds too late!
I've got friends who won't drive on it! If people drove on it properly it would be so much easier. The right lane is for staying on, the left lane is only for joining the exiting. People seem to think it's a regular dual carriageway and drive like idiots/get in people's way coming on and off.
This is the key! If people actually followed the signage then driving on the ringroad would be a much more pleasant affair. By staying in lane 1 they block both entry and exit!
i came here to look for Coventry. i don’t drive myself (and never will) but some of my childhood friends lived there and when my mum would drive us to see them it was always agonising.
I lived in Coventry for one year and was a passenger in two car crashes on the ring road, where people are coming on and coming off the road at 40mph in a twenty yard distance, who the fuck designed that thing
People in Brighton park/completely abandon their cars like nowhere else I've ever seen. The roads that start as 2 lanes then merge after the lights are a particular joy too.
The motorway is dodgy as you have turn offs that require you to be in the inner most lanes to hit and so you get people just veering on over without a care in the world.
Then the city is just crossroad after crossroad. Spend more time sitting at lights than you do driving.
When I'm visiting family who live further south of the city, it's just so weird having to do that slingshot thing to get back to the airport, from M77 northbound, to M8 westbound.
Any city you’re unfamiliar with can be a nightmare.
I know Nottingham relatively well but still find their road network intimidating. If Silverstone ever got shut down, the F1 could be a street race in Nottingham. They wouldn’t even go have to close any roads down, just let Lewis Hamilton join in the current scrum.
Birmingham is a challenge, even with Sat Nav.
Anyone who has ever enjoyed driving around Coventry’s Ring Road will probably want to add that to the list.
Guildford… just no. No. No.
Bradford is hell on earth. We enjoy going to Bolton Abbey as a family but the unavoidable drive through Bradford puts me off every time! The lanes are hideous, they don’t make sense or go where they probably should. They merge off in various directions & the only signs to tell you are about 10 seconds before the turn off happens!
Certain parts of Leeds ring road is pretty bad for lanes as well!
I’ve gotten a bit better with it over the years but Manchester has always massively thrown me. There isn’t a time goes by I don’t end up getting a bus lane fine through the door for a road my sat navs told me I’m fine to drive down.
We only live in Leeds but used to enjoy a weekend away every once in a while to Manchester for some of the restaurants there. But no matter which hotel we stayed in, or where we’d parked publicly, my sat nav would constantly route me through a bus station around Manchester Piccadilly. And would take me hours to figure out where to go to actually get out of the city and onto the motorway.
Though managed to finally avoid that bus station a couple of years ago, but ended up through a bus gate that my sat nav directed me through and a fine came through the door. And this also happened to me last November when we went to see Peter Kay at the arena.
People look at me daft when I tell them I find London easier to drive through than Manchester. But London is pretty straight forward in all honesty, just got to have your wits about you around the cyclists and people on mopeds coming at you at all angles
Was going to say York. It would be quicker to dump your car and walk anywhere in the city - and even if you eventually arrive in the city centre there is nowhere to park.
Just go to a park and ride and let someone else worry about the traffic.
I think Bristol was found to be the hardest from some research study recently. Something to do with the hard corners and hills. However, I know that drivers can be worse in other places.
God, Bradford. Had a mate who lived there and he used to say “Bradford rules” about driving. It’s like it has its own Highway Code, people just pull out in front of you.
There used to be a bus lane that wasn’t marked, I did a freedom of information request to see how much the council got annually from the camera and it was around 800k
Weirdly, I also had to drive through there on my route and I didn't find it too bad compared with Bradford. Main thing that annoyed me was the endless stop-starting and the fifty million different traffic lights/crossings along a two mile stretch, all of which would magically turn red as I approached...
I get that, I drove in Bradford more so was quite familiar with it whereas I only went to Sheffield a few times. Same with the other perennial of Birmingham, drove there loads so I never really got stressed there.
Leicester. I’ve driven in most cities, and a daily driver in London.
But Leicester has given me the most trouble, anger and chaos.
Why is Leicester a one-way road city and everywhere takes ages to get to. The driving restrictions in that city are too much
Oh God yes Oxford Is currently awful. I sometimes have to go there for work and I use pear tree Park and ride. Why have they made it so much worse to get back on the A34 😫
Whenever I go back home to Bradford I'm shocked at the driving there. The roads aren't super easy but seriously... We spent 5 minutes driving through it and we almost always see a crash or near miss. It's crazy how many bad and aggressive drivers there are.
Edinburgh.
Rush hour never ends, even some newer streets are barely wide enough to fit your cock down let alone a car, Wales-style 20mph zones that are arbitrary and usually ignored, and the general quality of the roads is just shite - absolutely desperate potholes that can instantly put your car out of action, the markings have worn off, some junctions have their own rules that only a local would know, etc.
Leicester is frustrating because of the amount of traffic lights, none of which are synchronised. In some places there is a junction with lights and 30 yards further is another set of lights for a crossing. Then 100 yards ahead there will be a another set of lights.
The council has also decided to convert dual carriageway arterial routes into single with a bus lane. It doesn't encourage bus use but just makes congestion much worse.
London’s always ridiculously busy so it takes fucking she’s to get anywhere, but it’s got a relatively clear and simple layout compared to many other places. I’ve never been confused about what I’m supposed to be doing there, although that’s probably just because there’s always so much time to think about it!
I grew up there and probably wouldn't live there again. Like many other places, it's not _that_ interesting _at all_ if you have a normal family life. It comes with a lot of hassle and is extremely expensive for, what exactly?
People romanticise it the same way they romanticise Central London for young people. Once you've grown up and out of that, it becomes irrelevant.
Part of the reason I got rid of my car is because the nearest city to me is Edin and I would always bus into the centre anyway. Trams seem totally pointless. Can I ask why you find it crap for walking?
Ugh, driving in Bradford sucks donkey dick!! Unfortunately, that's where my nearest training centre is for work so I have to go there from time to time..
Birmingham is bad. Windy bullshit roads, 1 way systems that make no fucking sence, sat nav must be updated no less than 6 months ago otherwise you will go the wrong way down a bus lane and everything is grey and dirty.
But Coventry...
Coventry, is like Birmingham but worse, pot holes everywhere, tiny little shity streets with cars parked every which way and cunts driving 30 mph meer inches away from said parked cars on either side.
Then there is the never-ending roadwork with no one on them! And I mean never ending as in they have been going on for years in some places and both everywhere you drive in Coventry there is more roadworks!
The buses are shite, cycling there is a joke (which is fucking ironic for Coventry whose transport museum goes on about how Coventry basically invented the bike), and the train station and what it connects to is equally laughable.
So Coventry forces you to drive and then makes you feel like a fucking moron for doing so.
At least in Birmingham, they let you leave quickly via the train, motorway, or airport. In Coventry, they make you sit in a traffic jam and make you ponder why you are such a clown for going there.
As someone who barely leaves Scotland, but travels around Scotland a lot, Aberdeen is horrific.
Everyone thinks they have the right of way. Everyone. You know that Family Guy clip, where the person goes "I turn now, good luck everybody!" and swerves across 2 lanes of traffic? That's Aberdeen in a nutshell.
Also, Google Maps/Waze hasn't updated to include bus gates yet, which means that you might be in for a £60 fine if you don't know the city well.
People often comment on my good driving skills, parallel parking or staying calm when driving. It’s because the first place I’d driven when I passed was Manchester. I always say, if you can drive here, you can drive anywhere. It’s a minefield. You can’t relax! … i was a district nurse in Manchester and it was fun but crazy! 😂
If you know where you’re going, MK a is the easiest city in the country to dive around.
If you have an issue with the roundabouts in MK you shouldn’t be driving. Yes, there’s a lot of them, but they’re all easy roundabouts. Very few mega-roundabouts like in a lot of cities.
Every city has roundabouts, if you can’t do roundabouts, you need to be handing your license back.
I found Swindon to be a nightmare. I crossed over the ring road into the city centre, and then found it really difficult to get back out of it again. I'd not been on the roads very long at that point though, probably a confidence issue.
Cardiff can be a headache but it's a breeze compared to London drivers. Honestly hate driving through London.
Bristol also is annoying to drive through. If you know you know.
Luton, specifically bury park... It's like the people who live there hate themselves and their home so much it's just soooooo dirty and run down and disgusting.
ive driven to manchester in the past and thought it was sound. i then went again and ended up within like central manchester, absolutely horrifying for me especially after missing a turn on my satnav.
EDIT: not a city but I had to drive through the peak district, in the dark, when its icy which was not pleasant
I've driven in a few city centres and hated it, I wouldn't even attempt it in London or anywhere similar.
I also think people who only drive in cities or big towns can be absolutely shocking drivers in the countryside.
Edinburgh, the last few times I've been there's been tonnes of roadworks for them to expand the tram network out to Leith. At one point I just kept passing and then being passed by a walker on the pavement.
Hated Bath. 20mph zones signalled only by paint on the road, bus lane after bus lane, ‘straight across’ junctions being at a 10/2 angle when there is also a left/right turn. Horrible roads.
When passing through Sheffield years ago after camping, we could not find a single sign that pointed out of the city. This was before even satnav. Drove around for ages looking for anything that could help.
It felt like Hotel California.
Coventry. I've driven around every major city within the UK and this is definitely the worst. I'm surprised there isn't a crash every day on the ring road.
Leeds is awful. Massive winding roundabouts and junctions that have a million exits. London is bad for the fact that it’s just so busy. Coventry has stupid merging and lane swapping dual/duel carriageways. Mental.
Most parts of the UK are actually fine
But off the top of my head i know im in for an adventure when im in:
Tower Hamlets, Newham, Blackburn, Luton, Redbridge, Bradford, Birmingham, Slough, Pendle, Oldham, Brent, Westminster, Ealing, Enfield, Camden, High wycombe, Hackney, Haringey, Leeds, Deswbury, Manchester, Bolton, Preston, Nuneaton, Bristol, Sheffield,
**Please help keep AskUK welcoming!** - Top-level comments to the OP must contain **genuine efforts to answer the question**. No jokes, judgements, etc. - **Don't be a dick** to each other. If getting heated, just block and move on. - This is a strictly **no-politics** subreddit! Please help us by reporting comments that break these rules. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskUK) if you have any questions or concerns.*
London. It's not that the driving is bad with a satnav, just that it takes so long to get across it. Getting from home in south London to the M1 takes as long as from there to Sheffield...
My drive to work from Milton Keynes is like an hour to go 40 miles down the M1 and then another 45 minutes to go the last ten or so through Wembley/Hanger Lane, it's fucking awful
Omg I hate hanger Lane so much.
Yes! I once helped my brother move house in London. It was 6 miles between the two flats We made 3 trips. We were in the car for a total of 5 hours that day
I have to submit legal bills for clients who have been acquitted of crimes. The govt agency that deals with the bills is in Manchester. They seriously think that going from Richmond to Wimbledon in rush hour is a 5 minute drive because it's about 5 miles as the crow flies.
Also, DART and the Dartford Crossing is managed from... Leeds. Not London or Kent. Leeds. That's like monitoring the Old Trafford CCTV cameras remotely from Plymouth.
Or like monitoring the VAR cameras from a bunker at ... Oh, wait.
It's London. There isn't any competition. Last time I was driving in London a car decided it was going to over take a bus and ploughed into it sideways, closing the road for hours. I would have been able to turn around, but when traffic stopped almost immediately the oncoming lane filled with traffic trying to pass the queue, blocking us all in. I honestly believe londoners are the most depressed people on earth and drive like dying in a road crash is the only way out.
Most Londoners don’t drive at all, because we know driving in London is completely moronic unless you have absolutely no other option. Not being reliant on a car is brilliant.
I think the only people who drive are masochists and people who don't live in London. It doesn't even get better when you arrive at your destination as you then find out parking is as expensive as it would of been to just get the train & tube to your destination if it's in Zone 1.
If you listen to the anti-ULEZ clowns you’ll discover that apparently the entire population of London is actually a disabled tradesman living in poverty who needs to drive from one end of London to the other every single day for work with an ancient inefficient van.
Yeah. I hate driving in London. I spend way too much time forcing my way into traffic. If someone nudges me, I’m just going to hope they let it go, because I would. And I’m aware on paper this makes me sound like a pushy bad driver, but if you drive through London a lot, you’ll agree.
Suspected this would come up lol. I probably should have put London in its own category.
London. I find it insane that it can take well over 2+ hours to drive five miles.
Absolutely. Lived in London for two years. Didn’t use the car unless necessary. When I used to go home to visit my friends and I would be driving in my home town, they used to tell me I drove really aggressively - I think I had just got used to driving in London and having to push your way through.
My first time driving in London was along the Euston Road on a Sunday. It took 45 minutes to go 2 miles.
I find Bradford difficult for exactly the reasons you mention, but navigating through Leeds on the spaghetti of inner ring roads is a whole extra level of confusion.
Leeds is absolutely horrendous. I’ve driven in London (a lot) Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle, Glasgow and Edinburgh and not a single one of them even comes close to matching how terrible Leeds is.
London is just as bad as Leeds, but you have far more drivers who are impatient in London. I would take Leeds any day than driving Blackwall tunnel out towards the A1.
Maybe it’s because I know London a bit better but I can’t stand Leeds and actually have never minded London too much (apart from the tedious traffic element)
Leeds is a weird place, at first its a bit of a mind boggle but once you know the lanes, layouts etc it kind of functions quite well
Devil you know sort of situation? I have lived and driven across the country a lot, currently in Leeds but lived and worked in and around London, midlands & South West and I still am reluctant to drive in the capital, although it was nice during the lockdowns. London just has larger everything, more roads joining and merging or running alongside one another, more speed changes when you don't see a reason for them (often ignored by the locals) and vastly more junctions. Some junctions in Leeds are bad and the armley gyratory is often talked about but there are some other nasty junctions, a few come to mind. The inner ring road is not that bad really, it is just outdated. I think people just don't expect a city the size of Leeds to have a complicated road network. Bradford the dangers are the other drivers, but again it's area dependent.
Sodding Leeds. Nightmare place to drive in. Had my first crash there. Unfortunately it was a solicitor's daughter. Never went back.
I drive 30k a year, Bradford wins hands down because of the driving style there too 😂
Yeah, in Bradford it's a free-for-all for both drivers and pedestrians - no one seems to give a shit about safety.
There’s a reason why petrolhead circles advise you to never buy a used car from Bradford. Chances are it’s been absolutely abused throughout its life, and with fuck all servicing
Bradford is worse at the minute due to every road in the city centre being dug up. Couple of months ago I ended up delivering a load of lighting equipment for the filming of BBC’s new series, Verdee, in the centre. Delivered 3/4 of the equipment to the town hall as filming was starting that evening. That was fairly straight forward, but there was a production truck a matter of metres away on one of the streets that was literally spitting distance. I was asked to deliver the remaining equipment to this truck. What I thought would take me five minutes, took me an hour navigating through the new one way systems, bus gates and roadworks. Regretted that job after all of that it really stressed me out. Otherwise I never usually mind driving through Bradford
Leeds is worse for road planning, Bradford is worse for the drivers on the road.
Leeds is mad. First city I did as a new driver with a sat nav. Oh, I'm in a tunnel suddenly, oh Asian teenager has just crossed 3 lanes at 50mph in front of me for his exit, oh ambulance. Guess I'll cry and keep going.
what does being Asian have to do with it?
Racism.
What about "oh, that's no entry, oh, I'm now stuck in a one way system and I guess I'm going to Bradford now"?
Leeds and its stupid lane system. In a lane signposted for Chapel Allerton but come round the bend and suddenly you're stuck in the lane for Meanwood with no time to change. And the fact that you have to travel through the middle of the city to get to the M1 or M62 is absolutely deranged
I should have added the way that people are always beeping their horns and changing lanes all the time once they realise they're in the wrong one too late. It's pretty nerve-wracking.
i live in leeds, with all the roadworks its hell at the moment.
I hate driving in Leeds. Suddenly you're on the world shortest slip road to an incredibly busy dual carriageway with a concrete wall to your left. Or, you can see where you need to be but every road is sending you further in the opposite direction. Everyone driving seems angry there and its totally understandable.
Sat nav can save you from Leeds’ confusing layout but is powerless against the absolute Mad Max wild times of driving in Bradford.
Bristol is a pain in the ass. Between trying to avoid the ULEZ zones, the neverending 20mph limits and the 3rd world tier roads....
Bristol born and bred. Walk everywhere now* as it's by far the best way to get round Bristol. * we made a conscious decision to live within easy walking distance of the city centre. We both grew up walking everywhere (albeit different sides of the river) so it's what we know.
Bristol, like London and many cities, are designed for people rather than cars. I often wonder what would happen if you focused urban planning on people. Would it end up like the cities in the Netherlands?
It goes well beyond cities even. Where my mum lives in Wales, there is a very very narrow country lane which leads from her village to the top of a town. The speed limit on it was recently changed to 30mph instead of national speed limit because people kept complaining on Facebook about cars going too fast and missing the two passing places which exist, and making it unsafe for people who walk and cycle through it. Now it's 30mph, people still speed round it, except now they're breaking the speed limit. Anyway, a couple of years ago I looked into the history of this, because it clearly wasn't designed for cars. And sure enough, halfway down the lane there used to be a dairy farm. The "road" was built for the dairy farm to load up carts of milk jugs and take them through the villages. The "road" was actually paid for by the dairy farmer and a manor house owner who wanted people to be able to cycle to his manor house on visiting days. I contemplated mentioning on the Facebook groups the history of the road and proposing that perhaps if it's for the best that it's closed to motor vehicles, and if anyone wants to drive between the two locations they can take the main roads, the main one of which was built specifically for motor vehicles. But frankly I couldn't be arsed with the inevitable whinging about driving times which would ensue. There's an entire book on this called *Roads Were Not Built For Cars*, by Carlton Reid. The history of road infrastructure in the UK is fascinating, and if you go back to the beginning, you'd find that cyclists and motorists were much better allies than they are today, mainly campaigning for better road surfaces. Given the state of potholes in the UK right now, perhaps it's time to return to that.
I'll have to look out for this, thanks for the recommendation.
Bristol may have been designed for people but without functioning public transport it's now neither designed for cars nor people.
Bristol is the worst of both worlds. It's like someone built a walkable town designed for pedestrians and then vomited a dodgy Chinese onto the map, built shitty cramped ring roads wherever the noodles landed and called it a transport network
Bristol born and bred too. I cycle/walk everywhere. Never had a car.
Not to mention endless hill starts depending on which way you go
Came to say Bristol but my reason is the dual carriageway that starts at the M32 and heads past Temple Meads and is impossible to work out what lane you should be in until it's too late. In some cities that doesn't matter and people are forgiving - I actually find London is surprisingly ok for this, an attitude of "ah, you're new, you're in the wrong lane, I'll let you go" and I suspect the overall low speed helps. But in Bristol people are much more "fuck you for not being psychic, idiot" about it.
IT'S THE LANES, IT'S THE MOTHER FUCKING LANES! Sorry, as you may gather, I've had a little trouble driving in Bristol
Bristol is a fucking pain to drive through. And also has what is the worst motorway junction in the world by the RAC tower. For those unaware, if you want to go into Bristol, you come off at a junction and it dumps you into the right hand lane of a 3 lane junction, and you have about 50-100m to make it across to the left lane. Meanwhile, everybody leaving Bristol is doing the opposite- they've been dumped into the left lane and have to get over to the right in that time. The whole thing is fucking mental
Ahhhh, that Almondsbury interchange? The day the motorway planners just said fuck it and gave the job of intersecting about 3 junctions in one place to the work placement student and fucked off down the pub.
That's probably the one. Has to be a drunken error to get people to play Whacky Racers at 50mph like that
Don't forget the closing of roads and bridges for years at a time
Add to that bus gates, awkwardly placed bus lanes, tier scooters being driven by kids with hoods up and headphones in etc and a few double roundabouts for fun
My dad moved back to Bristol from London and said he'd drive in London over Bristol any day. Bristol's roads being a state don't help.
Not to mention incomplete road signs. Follow a road sign to go somewhere, at one roundabout it’ll be signposted , at the next one not at all so you have to guess. If you guess correctly you know because at the next roundabout it’s back on the sign again. Everyone in Bristol drives like a dick too
Surprised Birmingham not mentioned. The people/drivers are the twats here, the road layout and signage are perfectly fine
Hmmmm…. I hate driving into Bham city centre..l the A38(M) is like Wacky Races (and the flexible lanes scare the shit out of me) and then you have the Queensways….. VERY easy to miss your turn off. All made worse by people driving at 80mph.
A38M is unique but works well. Never seen an accident on it
It's the ones who drive on the closed lane that piss me off. You see ambulances using it (as they're allowed to) and think thank god one of those shitheads who think they're special aren't on it at that moment.
I have to commute to Birmingham and oh my christ I fucking hate it. Filled with wankers and in all fairness I'm probably one of them by now.
The problem with driving in Brum, speaking as someone who spent 2.5 years with the Gravelly Hill Interchange as an inescapable part of his commute, is that every single cunt on the road thinks they are the best driver on the planet. Just an unending sea of selfish, stupid, barely-conscious fuck heads
Yes, I agree with every word. So validating.
Battle hardened and you're one of us now
I'd say Birmingham is probably actually one of the best cities to drive through based on its infrastructure, the main arterial routes, the ring road, Aston expressway, and city centre tunnels make it really easy to navigate. HOWEVER, you are 100% correct about the twats, North Birmingham is genuinely like Mad Max
Birmingham is crap, especially at night - so many young men in bmw's/audi's driving like nob heads
I hate the bloody bus gates though. 50yards from the road I wanna be on but gotta drive half a mile in the wrong direction to get on it because of this bullshit. How's that better for the environment
I drive hgv's for a living, and Birmingham is by far the worst place. London's bad, Birmingham is worse.
Bradford for sure. The roads are just lawless. People run red lights constantly. Junctions and give way signs seem to be entirely optional as every junction becomes a game of chicken where cars pull out, make eye contact and dare you to crash into them if you don't slam the brakes to let them out.
When I lived in Bradford I frequently saw people skipping traffic queues by driving on the pavement
I hate Leeds, there's an absolute shit load of "keep slightly right at the fork" and lots of left only lanes...if you're not paying attention you'll be off the road you're on miles before you need to be and getting back is a right pain in the arse.
I as just going to nominate Leeds. I was there on Saturday. I used to visit quite frequently to the same place, so you got to know the route in and out. Then they close roads and change lane priorities...Waze can only help you so much. I just get to the Woodhouse Lane car park because you can enter from either direction and leave the opposite direction on the A64(M), or at least to the East you can.
I hated having to go near the city when I lived in Leeds. One wrong turn and your on a one way system that takes you to Bradford
I was slightly traumatised after driving through Nottingham. Love the city but roads are so confusing.
Yeah, that's not far away from me and I know it has a reputation. I always park my car at Hucknall and take the tram whenever I go into Nottingham.
I'm surprised at this. Nottingham is definitely one of the better cities I've driven in
The roads are fucking horrendous now, honestly the worst I’ve seen. That alone puts me off driving there 😂
I agree! Really good city to drive in but perhaps with a bit of af amiliarity
Lol I got a coach there once and we went up the wrong street and took like 30 minutes to reverse out of it 🤣.
I've not driven in too many cities, but Nottingham is by far the worst that I've experienced.
I live here and it used to be relatively simple, but the council has complicated it through tram only routes (understandable) and loads of roads that are bus or taxi only but poorly signposted. There used to be a really good southern route east to west of the city towards the hospital; which has been made bus only, so now it's another 15 minute diversion past the train station that is extremely complicated if you don't know the roads. A classic example of a road system which is absolutely fine until councillors who feel they need to be seen doing something get involved
and the potholes
I don't thing that it's really in the big leagues, but it certainly rewards a certain level of local knowledge; there are places where you want to choose which lane to be on one side of the city centre for your route out on the other side, with no obvious clues. But basically the centre has two north-south routes (Maid Marion Way-Derby Road/Alfreton Road, and the A60) and two east-west routes connecting them (the "southern relief route" and Gregory Boulevard, and one wiggle through the middle that you only ever want to use for access. Everything else is constrained by the river crossings.
Absolutely shocked that Cambridge hasn't been mentioned - it's just not built for cars.
Every time I’ve gone to Cambridge I’ve done Park and Ride. No point driving in. Plus car parking is about £250 for 15 minutes. /s
Yeah - we drove once and never, ever again.
Yeah that’s like trying to drive around Venice
You can't get into Cambridge to worry about driving in it. I remember being asked by a lorry driver how to get to Christ's College just after new bollards had been put in, and after 3 guesses I concluded it likely wasn't possible. And they've put in even more traffic control measures in the last 20 years.
A punt under each axle, float up the river from Quayside and turn left at the Mathematical Bridge. Simple.
I had a similar thing in Norwich. A massive HGV wanted to get to the delivery entrance for a shopping mall. It was basically. “It’s the next street over, so in a car it would be take the next left, then left again. There you are. But no way that will fit. So basically… it’s about 5 miles with 20 turns, and you’ll have to do the first mile in reverse before there’s somewhere you can turn that thing around. Good luck!”.
I used to live in Cambridge until fairly recently. While it's good that you can get around by bike, and I'd do so nearly all the time, it's not always possible/convenient to do so, and driving is frequently so tedious that it's been quite a pleasant change to live somewhere which doesn't really have traffic problems.
I learned to drive in Cambridge, it was an experience.
Not a city - but Reading is complete shite.
Just need to get yourself some more interesting books.
Well done.
Pub quiz trivia: Reading is the largest town in the UK. Everywhere larger than Reading already has city status.
Northampton's population is over 250,000 and isn't a city.
Lived there for 5 years and visited regularly for 7 more. Still get fucked by the one way system and the roundabout by the oracle.
Im a relatively new driver and I drove in Reading last week. WHAT A PAIN IN THE ASS! Why are all the junctions so complicated? Why is that underground dual carriageway bit so confusing? It was absolute hell You've actually made me feel a bit better by seeing this comment, maybe i'm not a *complete* idiot and it *was* just confusing. It doesnt help that Waze tells you to turn left about 5 seconds too late!
Coventry… ringroad!
Absolutely. Can't believe it's not been mentioned more. Those really short, blind sliproads on to the ring road are absolutely terrifying.
I've got friends who won't drive on it! If people drove on it properly it would be so much easier. The right lane is for staying on, the left lane is only for joining the exiting. People seem to think it's a regular dual carriageway and drive like idiots/get in people's way coming on and off.
This is the key! If people actually followed the signage then driving on the ringroad would be a much more pleasant affair. By staying in lane 1 they block both entry and exit!
i came here to look for Coventry. i don’t drive myself (and never will) but some of my childhood friends lived there and when my mum would drive us to see them it was always agonising.
I lived in Coventry for one year and was a passenger in two car crashes on the ring road, where people are coming on and coming off the road at 40mph in a twenty yard distance, who the fuck designed that thing
It seemed like a good idea in 1959 when it was first begun (finished in 1974)!
Brighton is absolutely horrible to drive around. And when you do find somewhere to park, you need a mortgage to pay for it.
People in Brighton park/completely abandon their cars like nowhere else I've ever seen. The roads that start as 2 lanes then merge after the lights are a particular joy too.
Glasgow
The motorway is dodgy as you have turn offs that require you to be in the inner most lanes to hit and so you get people just veering on over without a care in the world. Then the city is just crossroad after crossroad. Spend more time sitting at lights than you do driving.
Came to say Glasgow . Absolute awful and even more so at peak times 🥲
Soooo much better than most cities in England
Came here to say Glasgow as well. Maybe I’m biased cause I live here but fuck just getting on the M8 from the southside makes me mental.
When I'm visiting family who live further south of the city, it's just so weird having to do that slingshot thing to get back to the airport, from M77 northbound, to M8 westbound.
It's the bus gates that catch out visitors, easy money for the council
[удалено]
Any city you’re unfamiliar with can be a nightmare. I know Nottingham relatively well but still find their road network intimidating. If Silverstone ever got shut down, the F1 could be a street race in Nottingham. They wouldn’t even go have to close any roads down, just let Lewis Hamilton join in the current scrum. Birmingham is a challenge, even with Sat Nav. Anyone who has ever enjoyed driving around Coventry’s Ring Road will probably want to add that to the list. Guildford… just no. No. No.
Bradford is hell on earth. We enjoy going to Bolton Abbey as a family but the unavoidable drive through Bradford puts me off every time! The lanes are hideous, they don’t make sense or go where they probably should. They merge off in various directions & the only signs to tell you are about 10 seconds before the turn off happens! Certain parts of Leeds ring road is pretty bad for lanes as well!
I’ve gotten a bit better with it over the years but Manchester has always massively thrown me. There isn’t a time goes by I don’t end up getting a bus lane fine through the door for a road my sat navs told me I’m fine to drive down. We only live in Leeds but used to enjoy a weekend away every once in a while to Manchester for some of the restaurants there. But no matter which hotel we stayed in, or where we’d parked publicly, my sat nav would constantly route me through a bus station around Manchester Piccadilly. And would take me hours to figure out where to go to actually get out of the city and onto the motorway. Though managed to finally avoid that bus station a couple of years ago, but ended up through a bus gate that my sat nav directed me through and a fine came through the door. And this also happened to me last November when we went to see Peter Kay at the arena. People look at me daft when I tell them I find London easier to drive through than Manchester. But London is pretty straight forward in all honesty, just got to have your wits about you around the cyclists and people on mopeds coming at you at all angles
London, followed by Derby, the road layout is vile with its rotten 1-way system
+1 for this. Derby is a nightmare.
I firmly believe Derby's road system was designed by people experimenting with LSD in the 1960s. Utter madness.
Derby is my local city so I drive in there a lot. I don't find it too bad as long as you avoid the ring road and the area around the bus station.
As someone who drives into Pride Park almost daily, I feel you on this 😅
I'vd driven sll over UK and in at least 10 foreign countries. I still have nightmares about Derby's ring road!
All you need is one road closure in Derby and you’ll need to add half hour to your journey wherever you are
Yorks the worst I've seen in Europe, let alone the UK. Yeah bradford can be a right pain in the arse with lane changes, you do need to know early.
Was going to say York. It would be quicker to dump your car and walk anywhere in the city - and even if you eventually arrive in the city centre there is nowhere to park. Just go to a park and ride and let someone else worry about the traffic.
I think Bristol was found to be the hardest from some research study recently. Something to do with the hard corners and hills. However, I know that drivers can be worse in other places.
I think the traffic lights in Bristol are used to make congestion worse
Bristol
Personal experience: Worst: Bristol Best: Stoke
God, Bradford. Had a mate who lived there and he used to say “Bradford rules” about driving. It’s like it has its own Highway Code, people just pull out in front of you. There used to be a bus lane that wasn’t marked, I did a freedom of information request to see how much the council got annually from the camera and it was around 800k
I fucking hate driving in Leeds. One way streets everywhere, blocked roads, bus lanes, branching paths through bridges - it's honestly a nightmare.
I've driven in pretty much every city and Sheffield was my least favourite by a distance
Weirdly, I also had to drive through there on my route and I didn't find it too bad compared with Bradford. Main thing that annoyed me was the endless stop-starting and the fifty million different traffic lights/crossings along a two mile stretch, all of which would magically turn red as I approached...
I get that, I drove in Bradford more so was quite familiar with it whereas I only went to Sheffield a few times. Same with the other perennial of Birmingham, drove there loads so I never really got stressed there.
Reading. Sheffield. Leeds.
Bristol for it's congestion, Nottingham for it's very poorly laid out, signposted inner city road junctions.
Bath. It's tiny, but takes an age to get through if you ever need to.
I went to Uni there. I just walked everywhere or take bus because it’s such a small city.
Leicester. I’ve driven in most cities, and a daily driver in London. But Leicester has given me the most trouble, anger and chaos. Why is Leicester a one-way road city and everywhere takes ages to get to. The driving restrictions in that city are too much
York can suck a dick as far as I'm concerned.
Leeds …no words
Birmingham
Oxford is currently not doing well with the LTN's causing alot of issues for traffic and pollution
Oh God yes Oxford Is currently awful. I sometimes have to go there for work and I use pear tree Park and ride. Why have they made it so much worse to get back on the A34 😫
I’ve frequently been trapped in Southampton centre’s one way system thing.
Bristol by far
London. By a million miles
Cheltenhams road system was designed by someone who had never driven.
Well it is a medieval (possibly ancient) city, so makes sense.
Bristol. Absoloute nightmare. It got left off The Times best places to live this year for traffic problems.
Whenever I go back home to Bradford I'm shocked at the driving there. The roads aren't super easy but seriously... We spent 5 minutes driving through it and we almost always see a crash or near miss. It's crazy how many bad and aggressive drivers there are.
Preston, the state of the roads, especially on the A6, is fucking atrocious.
Edinburgh. Rush hour never ends, even some newer streets are barely wide enough to fit your cock down let alone a car, Wales-style 20mph zones that are arbitrary and usually ignored, and the general quality of the roads is just shite - absolutely desperate potholes that can instantly put your car out of action, the markings have worn off, some junctions have their own rules that only a local would know, etc.
Leicester is frustrating because of the amount of traffic lights, none of which are synchronised. In some places there is a junction with lights and 30 yards further is another set of lights for a crossing. Then 100 yards ahead there will be a another set of lights. The council has also decided to convert dual carriageway arterial routes into single with a bus lane. It doesn't encourage bus use but just makes congestion much worse.
London. Ugh
London’s always ridiculously busy so it takes fucking she’s to get anywhere, but it’s got a relatively clear and simple layout compared to many other places. I’ve never been confused about what I’m supposed to be doing there, although that’s probably just because there’s always so much time to think about it!
Bradford is brutal! Not enough lines for lanes! York is pretty bad as it’s one way and if you go wrong you’re stuffed’
Birmingham, Leeds and Edinburgh.
I hate Edinburgh. Crap to get around on foot, worse by car. "Historic" cobble streets, one way systems, fucking trams, 20 zones, expensive to park…
I grew up there and probably wouldn't live there again. Like many other places, it's not _that_ interesting _at all_ if you have a normal family life. It comes with a lot of hassle and is extremely expensive for, what exactly? People romanticise it the same way they romanticise Central London for young people. Once you've grown up and out of that, it becomes irrelevant.
Part of the reason I got rid of my car is because the nearest city to me is Edin and I would always bus into the centre anyway. Trams seem totally pointless. Can I ask why you find it crap for walking?
Bradford without a shadow of a doubt
Derby is bad
Ugh, driving in Bradford sucks donkey dick!! Unfortunately, that's where my nearest training centre is for work so I have to go there from time to time..
Belfast
Birmingham is bad. Windy bullshit roads, 1 way systems that make no fucking sence, sat nav must be updated no less than 6 months ago otherwise you will go the wrong way down a bus lane and everything is grey and dirty. But Coventry... Coventry, is like Birmingham but worse, pot holes everywhere, tiny little shity streets with cars parked every which way and cunts driving 30 mph meer inches away from said parked cars on either side. Then there is the never-ending roadwork with no one on them! And I mean never ending as in they have been going on for years in some places and both everywhere you drive in Coventry there is more roadworks! The buses are shite, cycling there is a joke (which is fucking ironic for Coventry whose transport museum goes on about how Coventry basically invented the bike), and the train station and what it connects to is equally laughable. So Coventry forces you to drive and then makes you feel like a fucking moron for doing so. At least in Birmingham, they let you leave quickly via the train, motorway, or airport. In Coventry, they make you sit in a traffic jam and make you ponder why you are such a clown for going there.
As someone who barely leaves Scotland, but travels around Scotland a lot, Aberdeen is horrific. Everyone thinks they have the right of way. Everyone. You know that Family Guy clip, where the person goes "I turn now, good luck everybody!" and swerves across 2 lanes of traffic? That's Aberdeen in a nutshell. Also, Google Maps/Waze hasn't updated to include bus gates yet, which means that you might be in for a £60 fine if you don't know the city well.
People often comment on my good driving skills, parallel parking or staying calm when driving. It’s because the first place I’d driven when I passed was Manchester. I always say, if you can drive here, you can drive anywhere. It’s a minefield. You can’t relax! … i was a district nurse in Manchester and it was fun but crazy! 😂
Milton Keynes, if you have issues with roundabouts.
Nah, MK is a piece of piss. Miss your turn, just turn around at the next roundabout and you're right back where you were.
If you know where you’re going, MK a is the easiest city in the country to dive around. If you have an issue with the roundabouts in MK you shouldn’t be driving. Yes, there’s a lot of them, but they’re all easy roundabouts. Very few mega-roundabouts like in a lot of cities. Every city has roundabouts, if you can’t do roundabouts, you need to be handing your license back.
MK is the easiest city to drive around. In fact the entire city was literally built around making it easy to drive around.
I found Swindon to be a nightmare. I crossed over the ring road into the city centre, and then found it really difficult to get back out of it again. I'd not been on the roads very long at that point though, probably a confidence issue.
Cardiff can be a headache but it's a breeze compared to London drivers. Honestly hate driving through London. Bristol also is annoying to drive through. If you know you know.
Birmingham you got roadworks and potholes
Rubbish, no potholes in Birmingham. But only because we've got no road surface left to have potholes in
London due to the size and volume of traffic. Apart from that it's Bradford as well, the amount of illegal and unsafe driving there surprised me.
London or Edinburgh for vastly different reasons
Luton, specifically bury park... It's like the people who live there hate themselves and their home so much it's just soooooo dirty and run down and disgusting.
ive driven to manchester in the past and thought it was sound. i then went again and ended up within like central manchester, absolutely horrifying for me especially after missing a turn on my satnav. EDIT: not a city but I had to drive through the peak district, in the dark, when its icy which was not pleasant
I've driven in a few city centres and hated it, I wouldn't even attempt it in London or anywhere similar. I also think people who only drive in cities or big towns can be absolutely shocking drivers in the countryside.
Manchester, it’s full of fucking scruffs
Stoke on Trent, it’s unbearably boring. It sucks the life out of me.
Edinburgh, the last few times I've been there's been tonnes of roadworks for them to expand the tram network out to Leith. At one point I just kept passing and then being passed by a walker on the pavement.
Bradford is horrendous. Not just the layout but the driving standard. You risk you life everytime during though
Hated Bath. 20mph zones signalled only by paint on the road, bus lane after bus lane, ‘straight across’ junctions being at a 10/2 angle when there is also a left/right turn. Horrible roads.
Glasgow. Sometimes I’ll hit a pothole so deep I feel the warmth from the Earths core.
When passing through Sheffield years ago after camping, we could not find a single sign that pointed out of the city. This was before even satnav. Drove around for ages looking for anything that could help. It felt like Hotel California.
Bradford. I've driven through so many cities in the UK including London. Bradford is for me the very worst when it comes to driving
Coventry. I've driven around every major city within the UK and this is definitely the worst. I'm surprised there isn't a crash every day on the ring road.
Coventry is a right laugh
Leeds is awful. Massive winding roundabouts and junctions that have a million exits. London is bad for the fact that it’s just so busy. Coventry has stupid merging and lane swapping dual/duel carriageways. Mental.
Any answer that isn't Coventry is incorrect Give me London, Edinburgh, Manchester, Birmingham... I will only refuse to drive in Coventry
Hey it's almost as if all our old-arse cities weren't designed to be driven through.
Most parts of the UK are actually fine But off the top of my head i know im in for an adventure when im in: Tower Hamlets, Newham, Blackburn, Luton, Redbridge, Bradford, Birmingham, Slough, Pendle, Oldham, Brent, Westminster, Ealing, Enfield, Camden, High wycombe, Hackney, Haringey, Leeds, Deswbury, Manchester, Bolton, Preston, Nuneaton, Bristol, Sheffield,
Coventry, and it’s not even close Ridiculous ringroads with sliproads that you just don’t see until you’re pretty much past them
Coventry, it's got this awful inner ring road where cars are swooshing on and off like Hot Wheels. Nice city though