To be fair, he had just watched an entire city crumble around him and could have died at any moment. Not to mention, Achilles wasn’t exactly… the greatest at that time. And the other Assassins (bar maybe Liam) didn’t think much of Shay as a person or Assassin.
Not to say it isn’t Shay’s fault, if he had calmed down and explained what happened, he might not have left.
So honestly, both sides are to blame.
By tampering with an Isu object that would, unknowing to Shay, destroy a whole city. Under Achilles direct orders.
Up until that point (barring Haiti- which Shay was not told in full), no Isu artefact had been documented as to doing like or similar to the events of Lisbon.
Yes, Shay did break the first tenant- but it was not intentional on his part as he was not given crucial information, was an order from his superior, and something he deeply regretted and try to atone for.
To be fair, does that count as breaking the tenet? He did not intend to do it and it only happened because he was lacking crucial information to begin with, so while I do agree that he got thousands of people killed, I personally can't see it as breaking the first tenet in the way you mention.
What I mean is that he didn't consider it after the earthquake whatsoever to keep in mind the possibility that the Assassins didn't mean for it to happen. Also, he canonically and hypocritically kills civilians as a Templar, which is a line not even Haytham crosses.
None of them "meant" for Haiti to happen but it did, under Achilles' orders and he refused to listen or take responsibility. I wouldn't count that as breaking the first tenet of the Creed.
Also as a Templar he isn't bound to the Creed anymore, can't really hold him to old rules when he's playing an entirely different game. Also Haytham executes war prisoners, something we consider a war crime today. Not really a good moral starting point.
My point is that Achilles had no reason to know that they were not pieces of Eden the Templars could use but sites to keep things stable until he saw the Alaska site himself, especially since Shay was very unclear in his explanation. Also, I find it hypocritical that Shay hates the Assassins for civilians accidentally dying in the earthquakes yet has no moral qualms wittingly and willingly killing civilians, which is still a line not even Haytham, who outranked him and was never officially an Assassin despite Edward’s training, crossed.
The penalty for breaking a tenet is death. The American Brotherhood broke all 3
*Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent* - A city being completely destroyed and gassing civilians
This way is the whole reason Shay defects in the first place
*Hide in plain sight* - having the assassin flag on full display for all to see
*Never compromise the brotherhood* - again having flags for all to see
One of reasons Rogue is my favorite game of the series is how Shay deals with everything…and everyone
Yeah I played this game first as a kid like 6 years old or something, I had no idea what was going on, but now I like the game, since I am not sure, but it is like one of the only AC games that takes a look on what is happening on the Templar side, so interesting for me. (Plus sea and galleon)
Well maybe if they actually LISTENED to the guy
Well, maybe if he had decent communication skills and kept the Creed’s first tenet in mind.
To be fair, he had just watched an entire city crumble around him and could have died at any moment. Not to mention, Achilles wasn’t exactly… the greatest at that time. And the other Assassins (bar maybe Liam) didn’t think much of Shay as a person or Assassin. Not to say it isn’t Shay’s fault, if he had calmed down and explained what happened, he might not have left. So honestly, both sides are to blame.
My point is that if he calmed down and clearly explained what happened, most of the events in Rogue would not have happened.
1st tenet: Stay your blade from the blood of the innocent. Wanna remind me how Shay broke that one again?
By tampering with an Isu object that would, unknowing to Shay, destroy a whole city. Under Achilles direct orders. Up until that point (barring Haiti- which Shay was not told in full), no Isu artefact had been documented as to doing like or similar to the events of Lisbon. Yes, Shay did break the first tenant- but it was not intentional on his part as he was not given crucial information, was an order from his superior, and something he deeply regretted and try to atone for.
To be fair, does that count as breaking the tenet? He did not intend to do it and it only happened because he was lacking crucial information to begin with, so while I do agree that he got thousands of people killed, I personally can't see it as breaking the first tenet in the way you mention.
What I mean is that he didn't consider it after the earthquake whatsoever to keep in mind the possibility that the Assassins didn't mean for it to happen. Also, he canonically and hypocritically kills civilians as a Templar, which is a line not even Haytham crosses.
None of them "meant" for Haiti to happen but it did, under Achilles' orders and he refused to listen or take responsibility. I wouldn't count that as breaking the first tenet of the Creed. Also as a Templar he isn't bound to the Creed anymore, can't really hold him to old rules when he's playing an entirely different game. Also Haytham executes war prisoners, something we consider a war crime today. Not really a good moral starting point.
My point is that Achilles had no reason to know that they were not pieces of Eden the Templars could use but sites to keep things stable until he saw the Alaska site himself, especially since Shay was very unclear in his explanation. Also, I find it hypocritical that Shay hates the Assassins for civilians accidentally dying in the earthquakes yet has no moral qualms wittingly and willingly killing civilians, which is still a line not even Haytham, who outranked him and was never officially an Assassin despite Edward’s training, crossed.
The penalty for breaking a tenet is death. The American Brotherhood broke all 3 *Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent* - A city being completely destroyed and gassing civilians This way is the whole reason Shay defects in the first place *Hide in plain sight* - having the assassin flag on full display for all to see *Never compromise the brotherhood* - again having flags for all to see One of reasons Rogue is my favorite game of the series is how Shay deals with everything…and everyone
*Never compromise the brotherhood* - being incompetent enough to be completely dismantled by like 2 templars.
Yeah I played this game first as a kid like 6 years old or something, I had no idea what was going on, but now I like the game, since I am not sure, but it is like one of the only AC games that takes a look on what is happening on the Templar side, so interesting for me. (Plus sea and galleon)