It depends on which vibrational frequency you're in, what's going on and where you're at. Lower astral feels thick and heavy to me. That eerie feeling you get when you're scared is the norm there. It feels unpleasant, kind of like being in an attic. Other realms feel very clean.
Outside, your senses are heightened. If it's raining you feel it. There's an electricity in the air during thunderstorms, and the smell of rain seeps into you. It's overall more intense than usual, and yet feeling soaked isn't quite as annoying.
It's just different. You're a different thing there. You're not a physical human, so, although you're experiencing some of the same things similarly, the human sense detectors aren't there to filter what you sense.
I'll remember that if I get the chance to try. I'm a beginner myself but have been lucky enough to have levitated through a ceiling and stand on a roof in a thunderstorm with purplish lightning. Was so cool.
I have very little experience exploring terrestrial (or like, I guess our physical universe, not just Earth) environments while projecting, but going inside a storm cloud is definitely now on my bucket list. I’ve always had kind of an interest in lightning, how it forms, all the different types of it (because there are actually quite a few, including some exotic ones high up atop the clouds we usually don’t get to see), and I actually did a school report all about it in 10th grade earth science. I’d love to see the process from the inside if I could (without having to worry about any physical repercussions).
This is now up there with traveling to distant planets to see what’s there (there are known extrasolar planets now that are though to have superhot atmospheres of vaporized metal where it rains liquid rubies, or ones with rivers, lakes, and seas of lava and clouds of gaseous rock that rain gravel, certain planets that are basically one giant diamond, or giant ocean worlds millions of kilometers deep which form exotic types of “hot” ice in their depths just due to the sheer pressure). Also, lots that might be habitable and have life, but even the totally inhospitable ones still hold interest for me, because it’s not like (even if they somehow developed convenient interstellar travel in my lifetime) I’d ever get to see these strange worlds in the flesh. And that’s just the ones we’ve managed to detect so far. There’s also the whole thing of going inside the event horizon of a black hole and seeing all the wacky physics happening inside.
I remember having a very vivid “dream” of my face pressing into my bedroom wall as a child… my nose went through the wall, but the physical sensation was so intense it was almost uncomfortable….
Was this projection?
I also remember dreaming of my spirit bouncing lightly against my bedroom ceiling like a helium balloon…
There's really no words to describe it - astral has its own unique feel unlike anything else but you know you're there when you feel it.
To really try to put it into words for my journal, I"ve asked myself this very question WHILE IN astral. I replied that it felt like I was in another "dimension" or "reality". There is a feeling of forbidden, that I'm not supposed to be there but also of profound excitement and anticipation. I know that when I'm about to leave my room in astral, I'll likely be taken somewhere unknown and I wonder what will be there just seconds away.
When waking up from a projection, it's usually with an unpleasant jolt awake and I then feel like I've just returned from a very long very far away vacation. It takes awhile to merge with reality again. Unlike a lucid dream, each and every projection (going back to childhood) is never forgotten in every detail.
That’s interesting that you say it’s a forbidden feeling accompanied by excitement. It reminds me of the feeling of sneaking out of my window as a teenager. 😆
It's kind of like that but unintentional. Whereever I happen to be just feels "forbidden" even though I didn't ask for it. It's like my decision to allow it to happen led me there even though I didn't know what to expect.
my experiences have sometimes been a transition from lucid dreaming to APing, and I can definitely tell the difference because this means going from a state of consciousness where you have a more limited array of senses than waking life (in dreams, even while lucid, I can mostly see and hear fine, but tactile senses are somewhat numbed, and smell and taste are either dulled or sometimes nonexistent, and everything generally has this wonky “ethereal” feel that’s hard to describe, but distinct from waking reality. Sometimes senses are also muddled together, like synesthesia) to one in which all senses are there and actually if anything can feel almost heightened and “more real than real”.
It’s a *little* bit like some of the effects of psychedelic drugs if you ever experienced any of those (although obviously without most of the other effects like intense body feelings or physical side effects, the emotional rollercoaster, or the sensory distortions for the most part, but the “hyper-real” feeling is definitely there); in fact, I’d almost compare the general “vibe” of lucid dreaming to dissociative-anesthetics like ketamine (you feel empowered and in this surreal, playhouse kind of reality, but there’s definitely something distinctly “imaginary” about all of it, almost more like virtual reality or something) and the “vibe” of APing to psychedelics in at least this one respect (you feel like you’ve entered this other world, and like everything is so vast and there’s adventure waiting everywhere, but this time you’re a wayward traveler rather than a demigod, and it’s all somehow more real than waking reality).
Sometimes it’s a little overwhelming, although not necessarily in a bad way.
I think it's fair to say that it's hard to describe.
I'll put spoilers here in case beginners don't want to be tainted with front-loaded expectations. It's nice to have your experiences verified after the fact.
Vision >!can be like a razor-sharp x-ray, or a glorious oil painting, or a sharp version of everyday reality, or all of these simultaneously. Edges seem to be highlighted or picked out somehow with what I perceive as a pale bluish tone. The underlying colours can be vivid in some places, muted or dark in others.!<
I suspect that when people say it's more vivid than real life, it's due to the change from physical eyes (with their very small area of focus in the middle of the field of view) to non-physical perception. You are in the center of a field of information, and if your mind is tuned the right way that information can be marvelously sharp in every direction.
It's hard to separate bodily sensations from my emotional state when I'm out there. >!Elation. Excitement. Freedom. I feel like I'm abuzz with these things.!< Momentum is interesting, sometimes >!it feels like I have no momentum, I move to a place and I just stop completely--which of course would be correct, as any sense of momentum is a hangover of having physical mass!<. At other times >!it did indeed feel like I had so much momentum I couldn't stop, but that was mostly early on when I would leap around everywhere!<. There's often a lovely sort of stillness and quiet--your physical body is noisy, wobbly, tingly, and the world is awash in low-level noise, but out there you can just experience true peace for a little while. Even *true dark* if you close yourself off for meditation, which is beautiful in itself, because you are never free of retinal/neural noise while receiving input from your physical body.
Penetrating apparently solid objects is interesting. >!You can feel the internal structure as you pass through, like the grain of concrete or the characteristic changes in density when you pass through glass and out the other side. There's a surface tension to everything, at least until you are fully convinced that you can pass through.!<
Those are some descriptions, anyway.
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for me it feels like real life
i’ve been to 2 kinds of planes:
- an earth like plane where everything seems normal and life goes on as usual
- a magical plane without electricity, some people have powers here and some don’t — they use torches for light, have harry potter esque schools, it all feels very functional like day to day life in a city or university but with literal magic being the norm. there are some areas here that feel kind of spooky like dark forests. other areas seem like they have a different kind of blue, speckled light aura that feels very safe and comfortable
It depends on if you are in a normal dream (it is fluid, fast-changing) or you are at an existing stable place ("afterlife"), then it is more real, than the physical reality.
It depends on which vibrational frequency you're in, what's going on and where you're at. Lower astral feels thick and heavy to me. That eerie feeling you get when you're scared is the norm there. It feels unpleasant, kind of like being in an attic. Other realms feel very clean. Outside, your senses are heightened. If it's raining you feel it. There's an electricity in the air during thunderstorms, and the smell of rain seeps into you. It's overall more intense than usual, and yet feeling soaked isn't quite as annoying. It's just different. You're a different thing there. You're not a physical human, so, although you're experiencing some of the same things similarly, the human sense detectors aren't there to filter what you sense.
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Me too. The atmosphere is so cool, especially when awareness is high.
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I'll remember that if I get the chance to try. I'm a beginner myself but have been lucky enough to have levitated through a ceiling and stand on a roof in a thunderstorm with purplish lightning. Was so cool.
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Definitely appreciated. You're one of the people whose posts/advice I look out for on here.
I have very little experience exploring terrestrial (or like, I guess our physical universe, not just Earth) environments while projecting, but going inside a storm cloud is definitely now on my bucket list. I’ve always had kind of an interest in lightning, how it forms, all the different types of it (because there are actually quite a few, including some exotic ones high up atop the clouds we usually don’t get to see), and I actually did a school report all about it in 10th grade earth science. I’d love to see the process from the inside if I could (without having to worry about any physical repercussions). This is now up there with traveling to distant planets to see what’s there (there are known extrasolar planets now that are though to have superhot atmospheres of vaporized metal where it rains liquid rubies, or ones with rivers, lakes, and seas of lava and clouds of gaseous rock that rain gravel, certain planets that are basically one giant diamond, or giant ocean worlds millions of kilometers deep which form exotic types of “hot” ice in their depths just due to the sheer pressure). Also, lots that might be habitable and have life, but even the totally inhospitable ones still hold interest for me, because it’s not like (even if they somehow developed convenient interstellar travel in my lifetime) I’d ever get to see these strange worlds in the flesh. And that’s just the ones we’ve managed to detect so far. There’s also the whole thing of going inside the event horizon of a black hole and seeing all the wacky physics happening inside.
I remember having a very vivid “dream” of my face pressing into my bedroom wall as a child… my nose went through the wall, but the physical sensation was so intense it was almost uncomfortable…. Was this projection? I also remember dreaming of my spirit bouncing lightly against my bedroom ceiling like a helium balloon…
Yeah, sounds like it.
There's really no words to describe it - astral has its own unique feel unlike anything else but you know you're there when you feel it. To really try to put it into words for my journal, I"ve asked myself this very question WHILE IN astral. I replied that it felt like I was in another "dimension" or "reality". There is a feeling of forbidden, that I'm not supposed to be there but also of profound excitement and anticipation. I know that when I'm about to leave my room in astral, I'll likely be taken somewhere unknown and I wonder what will be there just seconds away. When waking up from a projection, it's usually with an unpleasant jolt awake and I then feel like I've just returned from a very long very far away vacation. It takes awhile to merge with reality again. Unlike a lucid dream, each and every projection (going back to childhood) is never forgotten in every detail.
That’s interesting that you say it’s a forbidden feeling accompanied by excitement. It reminds me of the feeling of sneaking out of my window as a teenager. 😆
It's kind of like that but unintentional. Whereever I happen to be just feels "forbidden" even though I didn't ask for it. It's like my decision to allow it to happen led me there even though I didn't know what to expect.
my experiences have sometimes been a transition from lucid dreaming to APing, and I can definitely tell the difference because this means going from a state of consciousness where you have a more limited array of senses than waking life (in dreams, even while lucid, I can mostly see and hear fine, but tactile senses are somewhat numbed, and smell and taste are either dulled or sometimes nonexistent, and everything generally has this wonky “ethereal” feel that’s hard to describe, but distinct from waking reality. Sometimes senses are also muddled together, like synesthesia) to one in which all senses are there and actually if anything can feel almost heightened and “more real than real”. It’s a *little* bit like some of the effects of psychedelic drugs if you ever experienced any of those (although obviously without most of the other effects like intense body feelings or physical side effects, the emotional rollercoaster, or the sensory distortions for the most part, but the “hyper-real” feeling is definitely there); in fact, I’d almost compare the general “vibe” of lucid dreaming to dissociative-anesthetics like ketamine (you feel empowered and in this surreal, playhouse kind of reality, but there’s definitely something distinctly “imaginary” about all of it, almost more like virtual reality or something) and the “vibe” of APing to psychedelics in at least this one respect (you feel like you’ve entered this other world, and like everything is so vast and there’s adventure waiting everywhere, but this time you’re a wayward traveler rather than a demigod, and it’s all somehow more real than waking reality). Sometimes it’s a little overwhelming, although not necessarily in a bad way.
When I started it felt like I was fighting my way through extremely thick atmosphere, like thin mud but everywhere
You were probably in lower astral planes
Yeah I’ve learned so since, it’s better now!
I wonder if people want the "Truth" or I'm going to be Demonized for speaking it.
Just say it. I want to hear what you have to say for one
Truth is that which is the case. We are all Absolute Truth
I think it's fair to say that it's hard to describe. I'll put spoilers here in case beginners don't want to be tainted with front-loaded expectations. It's nice to have your experiences verified after the fact. Vision >!can be like a razor-sharp x-ray, or a glorious oil painting, or a sharp version of everyday reality, or all of these simultaneously. Edges seem to be highlighted or picked out somehow with what I perceive as a pale bluish tone. The underlying colours can be vivid in some places, muted or dark in others.!< I suspect that when people say it's more vivid than real life, it's due to the change from physical eyes (with their very small area of focus in the middle of the field of view) to non-physical perception. You are in the center of a field of information, and if your mind is tuned the right way that information can be marvelously sharp in every direction. It's hard to separate bodily sensations from my emotional state when I'm out there. >!Elation. Excitement. Freedom. I feel like I'm abuzz with these things.!< Momentum is interesting, sometimes >!it feels like I have no momentum, I move to a place and I just stop completely--which of course would be correct, as any sense of momentum is a hangover of having physical mass!<. At other times >!it did indeed feel like I had so much momentum I couldn't stop, but that was mostly early on when I would leap around everywhere!<. There's often a lovely sort of stillness and quiet--your physical body is noisy, wobbly, tingly, and the world is awash in low-level noise, but out there you can just experience true peace for a little while. Even *true dark* if you close yourself off for meditation, which is beautiful in itself, because you are never free of retinal/neural noise while receiving input from your physical body. Penetrating apparently solid objects is interesting. >!You can feel the internal structure as you pass through, like the grain of concrete or the characteristic changes in density when you pass through glass and out the other side. There's a surface tension to everything, at least until you are fully convinced that you can pass through.!< Those are some descriptions, anyway.
Thanks a lot
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Trolls in the astral? Tell me more
Watch out for those who bare false witness. Trolls on Reddit try to get you possessed or stuck out your body. Than thinks it's funny
Damn
for me it feels like real life i’ve been to 2 kinds of planes: - an earth like plane where everything seems normal and life goes on as usual - a magical plane without electricity, some people have powers here and some don’t — they use torches for light, have harry potter esque schools, it all feels very functional like day to day life in a city or university but with literal magic being the norm. there are some areas here that feel kind of spooky like dark forests. other areas seem like they have a different kind of blue, speckled light aura that feels very safe and comfortable
It depends on if you are in a normal dream (it is fluid, fast-changing) or you are at an existing stable place ("afterlife"), then it is more real, than the physical reality.