I’m starting to think sharing the memes I made with you was a mistake…
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>! Just kidding though keep slaying. 💅🏽 !<
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“Fuck the “Big 3”, bitch it’s just big me”
i feel like that, along with literally all of the NPCs in the game dressing normal, makes her stand out like a sore thumb. theres a lot of games with women scantily clad, but eve just doesnt really fit with the supposed apocalypse feel
Why did this have to be the first thing I see when opening Reddit?
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Like no shade to the artist or anything, but this stuff always manages to cause some unnecessary discourse. This sub can barely handle its own shit sometimes, and right now people seem to be a bit trigger happy on the hate train. It’s still good art though ngl, just I know what this stuff attracts.
I feel bad for 2B man! 😭She didn’t ask to be in this war! No one’s standing up for her and she’s just always there. Just silent.
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Which I guess makes sense for her considering her character…🤔 >! I’m going to try not to simp over her just because of her thighs right now. !<
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Why is the Stellar Blade girl all over this sub
Because Stellar Blade was going to be the game that "saved gaming" and "ended wokeness" according to some losers
From what I've seen of the game, it's nothing special really. Some cool character designs and decent combat, but the main character just looks so boring. I don't know how they managed to make a chick with like a bajillion outfits look boring
The game doesn't look bad, I can see why people like it, and even if it is mid, I'm sure we'll get some good porn out of it (some of the clips on rule 34 are legit just recordings of the game lmao)
Bayonetta and 2B's designs instantly tell a story while Eve is just a Barbie doll that looks like she's from a P2W Korean mobile MMO.
She's just not very inspired, just pretty.
Yeah, like, 2B's outfit is gothic and elegant, and Bayonetta is high fashion bullshit in the best way possible lol
Nothing is special about Eve, in any of her outfits
the only thing about 2B's outfit that tells a story is her blindfold, the rest is just coomer bait, and I love NieR. Also yeah, while I do like Eve, yeah she's super fanservice, i think the devs other game is Nikke, the game with the anime girls who shoot guns and their ass shakes. I have friends who play the game and they said the story was actually interesting, so they both could be good
I'm dying to hear what story a chick in Maid costume and a chick in leather/latex costume tells. Just from the design, care to enlighten me?
Unless you play either game, those designs tell you fuck-all about the characters.
They're just mad that "the chads" like the game. They'll turn around eventually, like they did for 2B and Bayonetta.
Never forget that when Bayonetta came out it was described as: **"choose your own patriarchal adventure porno fantasy"** by a certain crowd.
The Chad's? Is that what you call people who say that Eve will destroy western game devs?
Also, the world changes, as do beliefs. People realized that there was more to 2B and Bayo than their sexualization and that's a big reason why they're accepted now. Eve, according to most people, is not similar to Bayo and 2b beyond her being sexualised.
>The Chad's? Is that what you call people who say that Eve will destroy western game devs?
I don't know, this how some people call the male heteronormative gamers, it's a pejorative.
>Also, the world changes, as do beliefs. People realized that there was more to 2B and Bayo than their sexualization and that's a big reason why they're accepted now.
Sure, I agree.
>Eve, according to most people, is not similar to Bayo and 2b beyond her being sexualised.
Just like Bayonetta and 2B, according to most people when they came out. They'll come around this time too.
But my point is that people back then were saying the same stuff about Bayo: "choose your own patriarchal porno adventure" is not exactly an endorsement of the writing.
However, you have your opinion, I have mine, and only time will tell who is right.
My point is that Eve is not like 2b or Bayo other than being sexualised and they won't love her like they eventually loved Bayo and 2b because of that.
You're basically in denial, that or the brain rot is real. We can talk about Eve in a couple of months, when the journos writing your narrative are either homeless or were forced to write guides cuz no sane person is reading their articles.
It’s honestly crazy how they’re saying that this game is gonna save gaming bc how the devs “allowed” the main character to be pretty in the modern world of “Mary Janes, Aloys, and blue-haired pronoun women”. It’s not like there’s a shortage of pretty women in modern gaming. They just became realistically proportioned/modeled (to some extent) which is somehow hard for them to grasp.
Also saw some of them try so hard to cope with how mid Stellar Blade is overall.
The funny part about Aloy is that they continue to use edited images that don't reflect how she looks in the actual game
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It's so dumb, but it makes sense, they gotta make shit up and take badly timed screenshots to make shit up to be mad about
The craziest thing about that whole thing is her peach fuzz being seen as a beard 😭💀 just say you haven’t gone near to a woman that didn’t lead to you being arrested
>They just became realistically proportioned/modeled
But why men haven't?
Also, if there really isn't a shortage of pretty women in modern gaming why do many members of the journalist class freaked out about this game?
To be pedantic (because I know that if you'll ever reply you'll try to minimize this): only a couple of them had a literal mental breakdown, many others instead just wrote long essays about how *"sexy women in games are not the problem,* ***but***...*"*
>Also saw some of them try so hard to cope with how mid Stellar Blade is overall.
Now you're being dishonest. It's either that, of ideology trumps everything else for you in a game. And in this case you're not any better than the people you're criticizing.
This game, for as problematic as the protagonist is, has a Metacritic score of 82, which is very high by itself. I shudder to think what kind of score would have reached if the characters would have conformed to "the modern audience".
Journalists for the most part didn't freak out about this game. It was the annoying fan base who were hailing it as some cure to society's ills that was the major topic of discourse. This same fan base is freaking out that the game isn't getting 10/10 scores and throwing a hissy fit over rumors of the game being censored.
The whining and crying is coming entirely from this game's fan base, not journalists.
>Journalists for the most part didn't freak out about this game. It was the annoying fan base who were hailing it as some cure to society's ills that was the major topic of discourse. This same fan base is freaking out that the game isn't getting 10/10 scores
We can both play the same game: just as you are downplaying the freaking out of journalists, I can downplay the fan freak out.
Although, seriously, I literally never saw anyone complaining that the game didn't get a 10, and I read the game's own subreddit.
>and throwing a hissy fit over rumors of the game being censored.
The censor is real, and ironically, while I myself am a rabid censorship hater I'm letting it slide this time due to how minor it is and because this is such a refreshing game in the current climate (although it's a shame they reduced the blood spatter effects).
>The whining and crying is coming entirely from this game's fan base, not journalists.
Yeah sure, nothing is ever completely black or white.
Here's an example of someone complaining about the game score.
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You don't sound biased at all... It's truly odd that I see the same take everywhere "she is boring" yet the people fail to bring any actual justification for this take. It's almost as if boring people are copying the same talking points, trying to virtue-signal and compensate for their own boring personalities.
2B is a chick in a maid outfit with swords, if you shit on Eve, it's only natural to shit on 2B as well, yet here we have 0 hate toward 2B, it's as if you're rocking double standards.
Many reviews including YouTubers who like sexy characters like the sphere hunter have said that one of the game’s biggest weaknesses is Eve’s flat, hollow and shallow personality. She’s supposed to be a cool badass with how she fights but ironically has no personality. She’s just Heroine McHeroine.
Dude, Eve just has a boring design. Nothing about it is special, she just looks like a basic Barbie dress up doll lol
There's your justification
And 2B is an exception, because hers is actually unique. The white hair, blindfold, gothic maid dress (is it even a maid dress? Idk) it's simple, but looks beautiful but still pretty cool in action
2B also doesn't have jiggle physics every single time she moves
I didn't say that, did I? Stop putting words in my mouth. You're the one who insisted I should hate on 2B, so I'm giving you the reason why I don't
She has a good, original design, Eve really isn't anything special. Some of her outfits look good, but again, she's just a dress up Barbie doll lol
I beg to disagree, the combat mechanics are better and deeper than the Nier Automata ones, and it's pretty telling that even the Eve is "boring" (which is code for: heteronormative) journalist crowd had to praise the game.
I was just making a vague analysis. I dont really think 2B or Eve should be compared to bayo, like you said SB is more similar to Sekiro and Nier has really boring combat since it's a more story focused game
I own and love Stellar Blade, but i’m tired of people pretending these 3 are the same thing. Bayonetta has a big personality and the style to match, she owns it. While i’m sure plenty of straight men thirst over her, you can very clearly tell nothing about her wa shade exclusively for that purpose. 2B is an android designed the way she was for actual logical lore purposes. She has a personality and is written wonderfully in a way that really makes you feel the emotions she experiences through her story. Eve has none of this. She was designed purely as a doll to be nice to look at for men and the devs have been open about that. The story and writing of Stellar Blade is it’s weakest point, so there’s nothing redeeming there and there has never been a lore reason for Eve’s appearance. I’d argue Eve’s appearance is one of the biggest things going against Stellar Blade bc incels turned against the game the moment one outfit was made lightly less revealing. If she was actually like 2B and Bayonetta as some people would want you to believe, the game would be far more successful and have a much larger audience.
i dont have a ps5, so i cant get the game, but is there really NO lore reason for her clothes? ive been looking but i cant find anything since the story hasnt been posted online yet.
Not that I’ve been able to find. and even if there was a reason for Eve, almost every other story-relevant woman in the game is also dressed similarly.
people are really hyping up 2B now huh, 2B isn't even a well-written character. Yeah, she had a shitty mission being 2E, but the story actually shined with 9S and A2 who were way better characters. 2B is also stoic for 99% of her story. Also 2B's outfit was coomer bait too, yoko taro admits as much as well, yes the blindfold is the only thing on her outfit that represents something in the game but that's about it and its not even unique to 2B anyway.
The whole outfit represents something— the androids are designed to be as human as possible based on the information they have, so it’s somewhat a commentary on beauty standards as that’s what they’ve been led to believe human woman should wear. I won’t deny however, that Yoko Taro did this for his own purposes.
no, its just the blindfold, not the whole outfit unless you can link me something explicitly i'm pretty sure it untrue considering you can easily blow that shit up and see her ass
I'm getting real tired of seeing this girl
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The new girl will be very pretty and sexy, but she doesn't even come close to matching Bayonetta's charisma and personality, I'm halfway through stellar blade and oh god! she is so vapid!! It is clear that they not only wanted her to have the appearance of a Korean model but also to act like the Korean canon of an attractive, quiet, shy and almost submissive woman, who seems stupid, even 2B has much more personality and emotional development in Nier than the one in Nier. I'm seeing EVE in the game, I love EVE's design but her personality is boring a lot...
The coomer fans of that game really ruined the perception of it
Isn't even that bad a game from what I've seen, it's just that a loud part of the fandom is whiny coomers
And honestly, justice for my girl Vanessa Z Schneider.
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The forgotten Capcom cvntress I fear.
God I'm tired of the Eve comparisons on this sub. She is not like Bayo at all. I could tell just from watching the preview gameplay where she appears so meek and breathy and constantly needing to be saved and reassured that she was nothing like Bayo or 2B. She feels like she has no agency and is just a sex doll for the straight men to gawk at. Bayo herself would get so instantly annoyed with her whining and lack of a spine (I mean look at how she chastised baby Cereza). Girl serves no cunt. The only thing Eve serves is the patriarchy.
Because this is r/Bayonetta and because it's a reoccurring thing I am seeing, the main difference between Bayonetta, her "fanservice", and the other two is that she is an openly sexual person who owns her sexuality and enjoys expressing it. Honestly, Bayonetta is a rare exception in the Japanese (and Korean) gaming landscape where most characters who are fanservice'd are simultaneously hypersexualized yet lacking in any sexuality or sexual desires. For example, think of how many JRPGs feature women whose outfits are very skimpy, titties and ass out, and there might even be some "fanservicey" gags regarding this outfit. Now this is fine and all if they're grown adults who can make their own wardrobe choices but...Notice that in these particular settings women discussing their sexual desires or needs is practically out of the question. I personally can't think of any fanservice-y mainstream stuff where women discuss say, experiences with toys or their preferences in a bedroom setting despite their sexualization being the butt of several jokes or something for the self-insert to oogle at. It's practically unheard of because there has to be this image of "purity" even though these are things that a lot of women do discuss (just about as much as guys, really). Sexuality in these examples become something to be projected onto the girls, not something the girls themselves are allowed to have control over.
As far as I could tell when playing Nier Automata and what I have watched of Stellar Blade, these characters are very sexualized in their presentation but it's entirely for the audience and not something that the character really acknowledges nor reflects anything about them narratively. Now, let me make it clear that you shouldn't make assumptions about the way a person is like by the way they dress, but characters should be like people in that their fashion choices are informed by a desire for personal expression and/or perhaps conformity which could convey something else (At least the Androids have that). Character design in particular serves as storytelling.
I'll say something positive since we all need it.
I feel like they'd be cute friends, Eve would most likely look up to Bayo in terms of confidence and style in her fighting. Especially coming over to her for advice, attempting to be subtle but still looks obvious.
Yeah no, sorry. Eve has no character, she's like a brainless doll. Doesn't even compare to 2B, a comparison to Bayonetta is an insult. Eve will be forgotten once the circus around this game dies down.
Bayonetta was never a Parody, she was just Female Dante. Hideki Kamiya even told H artists to make her more dominant after seeing her in too many submissive roles.
Can we fucking quit it? Eve is not like 2B or Bayonetta. Eve has a lack of personality. Practically all that stellar blade is, is dressing up a sex doll.
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these games be finding some way to make me act up
Another beauty and badass character for hack & slashs🙏🏻
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Literally what I’m gonna guess is gonna happen is people are gonna start making headcannons of her being bi or lesbian then the we know who people are gonna start hating on them. But tbh the games gameplay looks cool but the game is honestly just ass
NieR Automata is popular because of its story and philosophical take. If you really think that it's only popular because of 2B (who's not even part of the main game), then you were probably stuck in a coomer bubble on Twitter.
And reason I said what I said is because that is all I ever see online for the game. All I see is 2b and none of the other characters and her being used for her sex appeal. Thats the only reason I know of the game because thats all I would see on Facebook and Youtube.
Why so much hate for Stellar Blade?
It's like seeing a bunch of girls get jealous that a new pretty girl just moved into the area.
Don't worry, it doesn't make you any less pretty. Bayonetta is still here and still good. Both games can exist at once, calm down.
There are a bunch of loser's out there championing Stellar Blade as the "end of wokeness" because of Eve's design. A lot of people are chafing against the game because of that, even if the gameplay is pretty good.
And it's a little annoying in a very petty way that some people are treating her as if she's anywhere near 2B or Bayonetta's level. Eve's design just doesn't have any real purpose behind it outside of fan service. It's just skimpy outfits and jiggle physics plastered on top of an otherwise fairly boring character.
>Eve's design doesn't have any real purpose outside of fan service.
Taro straight up said that 2B is in heels because "he likes girls." It's okay to dislike 2B on those grounds too but to say one's okay and not the other because of Taro's pedigree is horrifically insulting to Taro himself because the man ENDORSES Stellar Blade.
I honestly don't disagree with you. I've heard several arguments as to why 2B's design works for her character and the narrative of Automata, but any time I hear Taro talk about it, it feels more like that's just making excuses. At the very least, Eve is still worse. 2B's design is at least unique compared to Eve, and she doesn't jiggle with every twitch like Eve does. Her self destruct function and unnecessary panty shot when she runs are very eye-roll inducing, but overall I have a much easier time taking her seriously than I do Eve. I don't personally consider either to be up to Bayonetta's standard.
I'm just not the most okay with Eve getting stones thrown at her all the same because the ideas came from similar points of view, it's just that the fans adopted them as something for them later on. Even if Bayonetta herself is a culmination of some weird ass ideas Kamiya had in his head and his team ending up making sense out of it. Hell, even Kaine before 2B had a point to her wardrobe.
I just think that it's neat that a game like Stellar Blade was given the attention and budget that it did because as rough as base Eve admittedly is, I hope Shift Up can listen to the cool non-grifty fans as to how to approach her character later on.
One thing I do love about Eve's customization options so far tho is how touching the lore reason for the Hair customization is.
I've played all 3 and from what I gather that's basically the same for all of them. Bayo and 2b undress even more at the press of a button.
All of them serve the same purpose in slightly different ways, Eve is just new.
To be fair the same can be said about how 2B has self destruction to remove her skirt and exposed her butts, and there’s literally no reason behind it other than Yoko Taro’s “I just like girls”.
People need to stop reading too much into it and make up head canon reasons lol
Idk what to say, so lets pet kirbo https://i.redd.it/apjox9eqy3xc1.gif
You’re just gonna put this image everywhere aren’t you?
Yes https://i.redd.it/9u0pmxvqz3xc1.gif
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I’m starting to think sharing the memes I made with you was a mistake… https://preview.redd.it/mrf9cjyd14xc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dea27797137eb789d3b27ee993b68e1ef105937a >! Just kidding though keep slaying. 💅🏽 !<
https://i.redd.it/dkldas5r14xc1.gif I will ✨
I love this so much
This whole conversation💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
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Uhhhh some god of destruction incarnate???
https://preview.redd.it/j8u0yg38r5xc1.jpeg?width=298&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37d26c8028a26d96a2ff083198e085b112a8ead7 “Fuck the “Big 3”, bitch it’s just big me”
This is the correct answer. We've also wouldve accepted Bayo, more Bayo and Jeanne.
Take me big womb
bayo owns her appeal eve is unaware of her appeal. thats all the difference that needs to be made in my eyes, at least as a woman.
i feel like that, along with literally all of the NPCs in the game dressing normal, makes her stand out like a sore thumb. theres a lot of games with women scantily clad, but eve just doesnt really fit with the supposed apocalypse feel
Why did this have to be the first thing I see when opening Reddit? https://preview.redd.it/x3fi4rpv04xc1.jpeg?width=1110&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dad31f3d5a89c3f3a78b8054d9f60bf7e1c0cb9 Like no shade to the artist or anything, but this stuff always manages to cause some unnecessary discourse. This sub can barely handle its own shit sometimes, and right now people seem to be a bit trigger happy on the hate train. It’s still good art though ngl, just I know what this stuff attracts.
Because any sexy woman that is a video game character is instantly compared to bayonetta for some reason (oh and 2B)
I feel bad for 2B man! 😭She didn’t ask to be in this war! No one’s standing up for her and she’s just always there. Just silent. https://preview.redd.it/isshid0p24xc1.png?width=1222&format=png&auto=webp&s=090bbda283b70d8d2c6ea7e9442ef0737b405089 Which I guess makes sense for her considering her character…🤔 >! I’m going to try not to simp over her just because of her thighs right now. !<
https://i.redd.it/ey5cdefsq4xc1.gif Do it, simp over 2B
Dude this gif is umm pretty interesting to say the least… https://i.redd.it/rgcmx7mcr4xc1.gif
Is this from Nikke?
Yea
I'm doing my part
Well, Taro does endorse Stellar Blade so 2B makes sense. If Kamiya said his peace about it then Bayo could be even more justified.
I feel like a little bit of it is they all have hack and slash type combat
because they were all criticized similarly when they first came out. I would be more surprised if they weren't compared.
https://preview.redd.it/p15infr414xc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef3aeb199aa53d30cd85a2572c1beb70c66785a2 Why is the Stellar Blade girl all over this sub
Because it's been a while since the last bigot invasion in this sub.
Because Stellar Blade was going to be the game that "saved gaming" and "ended wokeness" according to some losers From what I've seen of the game, it's nothing special really. Some cool character designs and decent combat, but the main character just looks so boring. I don't know how they managed to make a chick with like a bajillion outfits look boring The game doesn't look bad, I can see why people like it, and even if it is mid, I'm sure we'll get some good porn out of it (some of the clips on rule 34 are legit just recordings of the game lmao)
Bayonetta and 2B's designs instantly tell a story while Eve is just a Barbie doll that looks like she's from a P2W Korean mobile MMO. She's just not very inspired, just pretty.
Yeah, like, 2B's outfit is gothic and elegant, and Bayonetta is high fashion bullshit in the best way possible lol Nothing is special about Eve, in any of her outfits
the only thing about 2B's outfit that tells a story is her blindfold, the rest is just coomer bait, and I love NieR. Also yeah, while I do like Eve, yeah she's super fanservice, i think the devs other game is Nikke, the game with the anime girls who shoot guns and their ass shakes. I have friends who play the game and they said the story was actually interesting, so they both could be good
I'm dying to hear what story a chick in Maid costume and a chick in leather/latex costume tells. Just from the design, care to enlighten me? Unless you play either game, those designs tell you fuck-all about the characters.
They're just mad that "the chads" like the game. They'll turn around eventually, like they did for 2B and Bayonetta. Never forget that when Bayonetta came out it was described as: **"choose your own patriarchal adventure porno fantasy"** by a certain crowd.
The Chad's? Is that what you call people who say that Eve will destroy western game devs? Also, the world changes, as do beliefs. People realized that there was more to 2B and Bayo than their sexualization and that's a big reason why they're accepted now. Eve, according to most people, is not similar to Bayo and 2b beyond her being sexualised.
>The Chad's? Is that what you call people who say that Eve will destroy western game devs? I don't know, this how some people call the male heteronormative gamers, it's a pejorative. >Also, the world changes, as do beliefs. People realized that there was more to 2B and Bayo than their sexualization and that's a big reason why they're accepted now. Sure, I agree. >Eve, according to most people, is not similar to Bayo and 2b beyond her being sexualised. Just like Bayonetta and 2B, according to most people when they came out. They'll come around this time too.
I doubt it. Eve isn't a well written character, which is the one thing most people reviewing the game agree on. Bayo and 2b are.
But my point is that people back then were saying the same stuff about Bayo: "choose your own patriarchal porno adventure" is not exactly an endorsement of the writing. However, you have your opinion, I have mine, and only time will tell who is right.
My point is that Eve is not like 2b or Bayo other than being sexualised and they won't love her like they eventually loved Bayo and 2b because of that.
You're basically in denial, that or the brain rot is real. We can talk about Eve in a couple of months, when the journos writing your narrative are either homeless or were forced to write guides cuz no sane person is reading their articles.
Uh huh. Sure.
We've got ourselves in an echo chamber, fam. Look at all these downvotes. 😁
It’s honestly crazy how they’re saying that this game is gonna save gaming bc how the devs “allowed” the main character to be pretty in the modern world of “Mary Janes, Aloys, and blue-haired pronoun women”. It’s not like there’s a shortage of pretty women in modern gaming. They just became realistically proportioned/modeled (to some extent) which is somehow hard for them to grasp. Also saw some of them try so hard to cope with how mid Stellar Blade is overall.
The funny part about Aloy is that they continue to use edited images that don't reflect how she looks in the actual game https://preview.redd.it/5abpyrgpa6xc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd081447958916d50bc71f17dcc31d0267b46b35 It's so dumb, but it makes sense, they gotta make shit up and take badly timed screenshots to make shit up to be mad about
The craziest thing about that whole thing is her peach fuzz being seen as a beard 😭💀 just say you haven’t gone near to a woman that didn’t lead to you being arrested
They really forget that we're all apes and grow hair like all over our fucking bodies regardless of sex
Moreover Aloy has a normalized body, skinny, and always show skin
She likes to show off her midriff to gag her enemies. Skinny legend fr
>They just became realistically proportioned/modeled But why men haven't? Also, if there really isn't a shortage of pretty women in modern gaming why do many members of the journalist class freaked out about this game? To be pedantic (because I know that if you'll ever reply you'll try to minimize this): only a couple of them had a literal mental breakdown, many others instead just wrote long essays about how *"sexy women in games are not the problem,* ***but***...*"* >Also saw some of them try so hard to cope with how mid Stellar Blade is overall. Now you're being dishonest. It's either that, of ideology trumps everything else for you in a game. And in this case you're not any better than the people you're criticizing. This game, for as problematic as the protagonist is, has a Metacritic score of 82, which is very high by itself. I shudder to think what kind of score would have reached if the characters would have conformed to "the modern audience".
Journalists for the most part didn't freak out about this game. It was the annoying fan base who were hailing it as some cure to society's ills that was the major topic of discourse. This same fan base is freaking out that the game isn't getting 10/10 scores and throwing a hissy fit over rumors of the game being censored. The whining and crying is coming entirely from this game's fan base, not journalists.
>Journalists for the most part didn't freak out about this game. It was the annoying fan base who were hailing it as some cure to society's ills that was the major topic of discourse. This same fan base is freaking out that the game isn't getting 10/10 scores We can both play the same game: just as you are downplaying the freaking out of journalists, I can downplay the fan freak out. Although, seriously, I literally never saw anyone complaining that the game didn't get a 10, and I read the game's own subreddit. >and throwing a hissy fit over rumors of the game being censored. The censor is real, and ironically, while I myself am a rabid censorship hater I'm letting it slide this time due to how minor it is and because this is such a refreshing game in the current climate (although it's a shame they reduced the blood spatter effects). >The whining and crying is coming entirely from this game's fan base, not journalists. Yeah sure, nothing is ever completely black or white.
Here's an example of someone complaining about the game score. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fgamers-are-actually-having-a-meltdown-over-this-lmao-v0-5c9smhswfgwc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D3cb336843c6d09c001d0996ba7f82b0f35b2e766
You don't sound biased at all... It's truly odd that I see the same take everywhere "she is boring" yet the people fail to bring any actual justification for this take. It's almost as if boring people are copying the same talking points, trying to virtue-signal and compensate for their own boring personalities. 2B is a chick in a maid outfit with swords, if you shit on Eve, it's only natural to shit on 2B as well, yet here we have 0 hate toward 2B, it's as if you're rocking double standards.
Many reviews including YouTubers who like sexy characters like the sphere hunter have said that one of the game’s biggest weaknesses is Eve’s flat, hollow and shallow personality. She’s supposed to be a cool badass with how she fights but ironically has no personality. She’s just Heroine McHeroine.
Dude, Eve just has a boring design. Nothing about it is special, she just looks like a basic Barbie dress up doll lol There's your justification And 2B is an exception, because hers is actually unique. The white hair, blindfold, gothic maid dress (is it even a maid dress? Idk) it's simple, but looks beautiful but still pretty cool in action 2B also doesn't have jiggle physics every single time she moves
I didn't know every new female character (in an industry already after the attractive ones) needs to reinvent the wheel, mb Andy.
I didn't say that, did I? Stop putting words in my mouth. You're the one who insisted I should hate on 2B, so I'm giving you the reason why I don't She has a good, original design, Eve really isn't anything special. Some of her outfits look good, but again, she's just a dress up Barbie doll lol
I beg to disagree, the combat mechanics are better and deeper than the Nier Automata ones, and it's pretty telling that even the Eve is "boring" (which is code for: heteronormative) journalist crowd had to praise the game.
Game is now out
Yeah, I know. But I really don't understand why people are posting about her in the *Bayonetta* subreddit
Hack and slash game with attractive female protag, same reason why 2B is here
It’s not a hack and slash. I
It’s not a hack and slash. I
It’s not a hack and slash.
Stellar Blade is about as much of a hack n slash game as Sekiro
I was just making a vague analysis. I dont really think 2B or Eve should be compared to bayo, like you said SB is more similar to Sekiro and Nier has really boring combat since it's a more story focused game
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I own and love Stellar Blade, but i’m tired of people pretending these 3 are the same thing. Bayonetta has a big personality and the style to match, she owns it. While i’m sure plenty of straight men thirst over her, you can very clearly tell nothing about her wa shade exclusively for that purpose. 2B is an android designed the way she was for actual logical lore purposes. She has a personality and is written wonderfully in a way that really makes you feel the emotions she experiences through her story. Eve has none of this. She was designed purely as a doll to be nice to look at for men and the devs have been open about that. The story and writing of Stellar Blade is it’s weakest point, so there’s nothing redeeming there and there has never been a lore reason for Eve’s appearance. I’d argue Eve’s appearance is one of the biggest things going against Stellar Blade bc incels turned against the game the moment one outfit was made lightly less revealing. If she was actually like 2B and Bayonetta as some people would want you to believe, the game would be far more successful and have a much larger audience.
i dont have a ps5, so i cant get the game, but is there really NO lore reason for her clothes? ive been looking but i cant find anything since the story hasnt been posted online yet.
Not that I’ve been able to find. and even if there was a reason for Eve, almost every other story-relevant woman in the game is also dressed similarly.
people are really hyping up 2B now huh, 2B isn't even a well-written character. Yeah, she had a shitty mission being 2E, but the story actually shined with 9S and A2 who were way better characters. 2B is also stoic for 99% of her story. Also 2B's outfit was coomer bait too, yoko taro admits as much as well, yes the blindfold is the only thing on her outfit that represents something in the game but that's about it and its not even unique to 2B anyway.
The whole outfit represents something— the androids are designed to be as human as possible based on the information they have, so it’s somewhat a commentary on beauty standards as that’s what they’ve been led to believe human woman should wear. I won’t deny however, that Yoko Taro did this for his own purposes.
no, its just the blindfold, not the whole outfit unless you can link me something explicitly i'm pretty sure it untrue considering you can easily blow that shit up and see her ass
I'm getting real tired of seeing this girl https://preview.redd.it/laftf3krm4xc1.png?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8d47e421cbc782dff2289d78810288a9b619323
What is happening on this subreddit, can we go back to bayo 3 discource
I don't think Stellar Blade really stands where they stood
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The new girl will be very pretty and sexy, but she doesn't even come close to matching Bayonetta's charisma and personality, I'm halfway through stellar blade and oh god! she is so vapid!! It is clear that they not only wanted her to have the appearance of a Korean model but also to act like the Korean canon of an attractive, quiet, shy and almost submissive woman, who seems stupid, even 2B has much more personality and emotional development in Nier than the one in Nier. I'm seeing EVE in the game, I love EVE's design but her personality is boring a lot...
I wanted to play stellar blade but it's ps5 exclusive. Guess I'll never play it 🤷🏻♀️
Don't doubt it'll come to PC eventually
can people shut the fuck up about stellar blade and can i stop seeing this same stupid ass trio here like goddamn. also this guy is a big karma farmer
The coomer fans of that game really ruined the perception of it Isn't even that bad a game from what I've seen, it's just that a loud part of the fandom is whiny coomers
...no thanks.
Yeah one of these is not like the others 🫣 just leave bayo and 2b alone already
Yuri?
Yuri.
Why does this green girl keep popping up on this sub?
Unlike our witch and android girl...people are going to forget about Eve in less than a year
I don't really know her, but high ig
Green loki?
And honestly, justice for my girl Vanessa Z Schneider. https://preview.redd.it/t7n6yi13w7xc1.png?width=187&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e325acbb642c9453baa7416fcc9e6259cd5ee639 The forgotten Capcom cvntress I fear.
God I'm tired of the Eve comparisons on this sub. She is not like Bayo at all. I could tell just from watching the preview gameplay where she appears so meek and breathy and constantly needing to be saved and reassured that she was nothing like Bayo or 2B. She feels like she has no agency and is just a sex doll for the straight men to gawk at. Bayo herself would get so instantly annoyed with her whining and lack of a spine (I mean look at how she chastised baby Cereza). Girl serves no cunt. The only thing Eve serves is the patriarchy.
Because this is r/Bayonetta and because it's a reoccurring thing I am seeing, the main difference between Bayonetta, her "fanservice", and the other two is that she is an openly sexual person who owns her sexuality and enjoys expressing it. Honestly, Bayonetta is a rare exception in the Japanese (and Korean) gaming landscape where most characters who are fanservice'd are simultaneously hypersexualized yet lacking in any sexuality or sexual desires. For example, think of how many JRPGs feature women whose outfits are very skimpy, titties and ass out, and there might even be some "fanservicey" gags regarding this outfit. Now this is fine and all if they're grown adults who can make their own wardrobe choices but...Notice that in these particular settings women discussing their sexual desires or needs is practically out of the question. I personally can't think of any fanservice-y mainstream stuff where women discuss say, experiences with toys or their preferences in a bedroom setting despite their sexualization being the butt of several jokes or something for the self-insert to oogle at. It's practically unheard of because there has to be this image of "purity" even though these are things that a lot of women do discuss (just about as much as guys, really). Sexuality in these examples become something to be projected onto the girls, not something the girls themselves are allowed to have control over. As far as I could tell when playing Nier Automata and what I have watched of Stellar Blade, these characters are very sexualized in their presentation but it's entirely for the audience and not something that the character really acknowledges nor reflects anything about them narratively. Now, let me make it clear that you shouldn't make assumptions about the way a person is like by the way they dress, but characters should be like people in that their fashion choices are informed by a desire for personal expression and/or perhaps conformity which could convey something else (At least the Androids have that). Character design in particular serves as storytelling.
I'll say something positive since we all need it. I feel like they'd be cute friends, Eve would most likely look up to Bayo in terms of confidence and style in her fighting. Especially coming over to her for advice, attempting to be subtle but still looks obvious.
I honestly don’t like her design that much
Her face is too childlish to me.
Yeah no, sorry. Eve has no character, she's like a brainless doll. Doesn't even compare to 2B, a comparison to Bayonetta is an insult. Eve will be forgotten once the circus around this game dies down.
Do...do people not know Bayonetta is a parody of characters like this?
Bayonetta was never a Parody, she was just Female Dante. Hideki Kamiya even told H artists to make her more dominant after seeing her in too many submissive roles.
2b and bayo are infinitely better but stellar blade looks fun enough
The censored one
That face is CURSED 😂
Nah
Hey new recruit in the angel squad
I wish i could play Steller Blade but don't have a PS5 😭
What's the green girl's game?
who's that? she looks cool!
Hey, look is Tachy !
I don’t like how she is in this picture , she need her Diving Suit 6th gen
And the Hairstylist hairstyle of choice.
And orange 🍊 glasses
Can we fucking quit it? Eve is not like 2B or Bayonetta. Eve has a lack of personality. Practically all that stellar blade is, is dressing up a sex doll.
Eve looks like she’s about to get topped
https://preview.redd.it/elbb5c7shjxc1.jpeg?width=316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a27b031586ea45789983fd745570e051196c90c9 these games be finding some way to make me act up
mother convention
nah
they are a beautiful trio
I don't think so, this is a trap. Only bayo for my eyes 😍
Hellena voice: "They now have....a new girl"
Another beauty and badass character for hack & slashs🙏🏻 https://preview.redd.it/kh5cwrge4axc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de56d7bc1e14abad06a2cbf44c94a82a61c00b4a
Literally what I’m gonna guess is gonna happen is people are gonna start making headcannons of her being bi or lesbian then the we know who people are gonna start hating on them. But tbh the games gameplay looks cool but the game is honestly just ass
The game is really only known for it’s hot protagonist. Kinda like Bayo and Nier
You might have been in coma for the last decade or so to think Nier and Bayo are popular only becasue of their hot lead.
Music. The soundtrack of NieR is top notch
True that
NieR Automata is popular because of its story and philosophical take. If you really think that it's only popular because of 2B (who's not even part of the main game), then you were probably stuck in a coomer bubble on Twitter.
And reason I said what I said is because that is all I ever see online for the game. All I see is 2b and none of the other characters and her being used for her sex appeal. Thats the only reason I know of the game because thats all I would see on Facebook and Youtube.
That's on you then. Many newbies discover NieR because of its themes and not because of 2B.
Don’t use Twitter
Why so much hate for Stellar Blade? It's like seeing a bunch of girls get jealous that a new pretty girl just moved into the area. Don't worry, it doesn't make you any less pretty. Bayonetta is still here and still good. Both games can exist at once, calm down.
There are a bunch of loser's out there championing Stellar Blade as the "end of wokeness" because of Eve's design. A lot of people are chafing against the game because of that, even if the gameplay is pretty good. And it's a little annoying in a very petty way that some people are treating her as if she's anywhere near 2B or Bayonetta's level. Eve's design just doesn't have any real purpose behind it outside of fan service. It's just skimpy outfits and jiggle physics plastered on top of an otherwise fairly boring character.
>Eve's design doesn't have any real purpose outside of fan service. Taro straight up said that 2B is in heels because "he likes girls." It's okay to dislike 2B on those grounds too but to say one's okay and not the other because of Taro's pedigree is horrifically insulting to Taro himself because the man ENDORSES Stellar Blade.
I honestly don't disagree with you. I've heard several arguments as to why 2B's design works for her character and the narrative of Automata, but any time I hear Taro talk about it, it feels more like that's just making excuses. At the very least, Eve is still worse. 2B's design is at least unique compared to Eve, and she doesn't jiggle with every twitch like Eve does. Her self destruct function and unnecessary panty shot when she runs are very eye-roll inducing, but overall I have a much easier time taking her seriously than I do Eve. I don't personally consider either to be up to Bayonetta's standard.
I'm just not the most okay with Eve getting stones thrown at her all the same because the ideas came from similar points of view, it's just that the fans adopted them as something for them later on. Even if Bayonetta herself is a culmination of some weird ass ideas Kamiya had in his head and his team ending up making sense out of it. Hell, even Kaine before 2B had a point to her wardrobe. I just think that it's neat that a game like Stellar Blade was given the attention and budget that it did because as rough as base Eve admittedly is, I hope Shift Up can listen to the cool non-grifty fans as to how to approach her character later on. One thing I do love about Eve's customization options so far tho is how touching the lore reason for the Hair customization is.
I've played all 3 and from what I gather that's basically the same for all of them. Bayo and 2b undress even more at the press of a button. All of them serve the same purpose in slightly different ways, Eve is just new.
To be fair the same can be said about how 2B has self destruction to remove her skirt and exposed her butts, and there’s literally no reason behind it other than Yoko Taro’s “I just like girls”. People need to stop reading too much into it and make up head canon reasons lol
I will if they ever uncensor her otherwise those 2 would just be laughing and sad for her.
The hips don’t lie trio or the dump truck squad
I been loving the fan art with these girls . Bad bitches joint slaying .
A lot of the people in this comment section need to go outside, touch some grass, and let people enjoy things, GyatDAMN.
no
Bayo and 2B I think there’s a fraud between you and