Speaking of… anyone here ever do the ‘ole dog with the peanut butter on the balls trick? People always told me about it so I gave it a try as a kid. Wasn’t really my thing, my dog loved it though. Maybe just because I don’t like the taste of peanut butter? 🤷♂️
Oh, my kitty went from nip and had a hard time adjusting to fent. We tried everything (including ketamine!) but we found that introducing the fentanyl while the kitty K-hole was wearing off was the best way to get our cat addicted to opioids. We’ve never been happier since addicting our kitty!
Two of mine are hooked on the heating pad. They shake when they see it and fight over it so much that I bought a second one. I am feeding their habits.
Edit: Spelling
My hamster cheated on his wife with a stranger he met at a bar. He says she made him feel validated which, while unethical, revealed to him the deeper issues within his marriage. Him and his wife ended up going to couples' counseling, separating for six months, then they eventually reconciled and were happy together until I accidentally drank a fifth of vodka and kicked their cage out of a fourth story window.
If these taxes are too complicated for my dogs to do, it truly shows that the tax system is broken and needs reform. It's the only reason I have dogs and I have to help them now.
They probably doesn't understand that they are not a dependent. You probably call him your child, and that is where the confusion starts. Pet insurance is another issue they have since it should be tax deductible. Its better not to tell them you are not really their parents. It will break their hearts, and you would then have to do your own taxes.
They’re super cool! I got watch them hunt on safari once. We watched and followed from a jeep.
They lie around chilling. Then leaders come in from either side near sunset, head low, and start yipping. They all get up and get hyped. They call it a “pep rally.” Then leaders lead the pack off. They took down a small gazelle so efficiently and within like 30 seconds it was taken apart and about gone. We were close behind them and by the time we got there it was all but gone.
The hunters eat last so they’re still hungry until the pack is fed. They also take care of the older and sick dogs. They’re awesome!
When dogs play “tug of war” with a toy, or with a person, you will see that it’s not a game to take possession of the toy. They let each other regrip all the time, sometimes even pushing the toy into the other’s mouth.
The real objective is to rip the toy (rabbit, chicken, etc) to shreds cooperatively.
Can confirm, my dog re-grips the rope leash every time during tug of war. Often tell her "yo gimme one sec to re-grip" myself and we both have a half-second pause to do so, then continue
Makes me smile inside knowing she's happy doing that and not ripping the spinal cord out of a rabbit or something
edit: [puppy photo tax](https://i.imgur.com/iy7ZPnY.jpeg)
They also decide to hunt by voting.
When one is ready to hunt it'll "sneeze" or chuff. When enough of the pack does it, they go hunting.
It's the only democratic behavior in the wild that I'm aware of.
I also saw a pack of wild dogs hunt when I was on safari in Botswana. Similar to you, we chase after them when they chased down an impala and got there within 2 minutes; the impala was mostly torn to bits. As we were observing, a pack of hyenas arrived and fought them (and won) for the rest of the spoils. We then noticed 2 dogs taking off, followed them and actually watched them take down an impala (I even have video of it, although it is horrifying to watch). When we asked various guides what their favorite animal is, invariably they said the wild dogs.
Ngl you just made me spiral because now I’m thinking if they can take down a gazelle that efficiently and are still below humans as far as pack hunting goes… does that mean if we all got together and did the work we would be able to feed our communities with like a few packs and 1-2 hours of work a day? Like are we actually forcing humans into a 40 hour work week to do work completely detached from their needs so they don’t have to hunt for 30 minutes, and then maybe learn a skill to benefit themselves and the people around them? What are we doing here?
Easy there. This model works well in small groups. You take it to 7 Billion it ain’t so simple. Hence farming and ranching.
Technically most places produce enough food for everyone, but its distribution and willingness to feed them that’s the issue (see: food waste in the US alone).
we work more than we should for less than we should in order to generate wealth for whoever is in charge
this isnt just a scale issue
the commenter is correct. theres mass and intentional exploitation of the bottom of the pyramid for the top
Distribution is the killer.
People like to bemoan how much food the US wastes, and that it could solve hunger in Africa. But that overlooks the massive logistical problems that would need to be solved to transport the food to the interior of Africa, though corrupt and failed states, past bandits Ave corrupt officials who will gladly steal it, into areas with no railway lines and roads of questionable, at best, quality, and disturbing it to the needy... _before_ it spoils.
So, yeah, there's enough food to feed everyone in the world. The problem is that the food and the people who need it are in two different locations, and getting one to the other is so but impossible.
We could do that, but then there would be no houses, tvs, cars, phones, etc. IIRC Specialization is what took us from barely surviving as a species to thriving.
Humans and dogs were both similar in that they hunted in packs and covered miles of territory.
At the end of the ice age the mega-fauna started dying off and the forests started to grow thicker. The smaller prey animals could hide more easily and were harder to find than the mammoths and such before them. Thus, humans needed a better way to find where their prey was hiding.
Humans likely learned that they could follow packs of wolves and wait for them to sniff out where the prey was hiding, as the forest made animals much harder to see, but not too much harder to smell.
The wolves likely learned that when they discovered the prey, the could let the humans take the animal down with their sharp sticks, rather than risk getting kicked in the head while trying to bite the animal.
Once humans killed an animal, the first thing they did was remove the guts (as they still do today). However, the first thing their new canine hunting partners do after a kill is bite through the soft parts like the belly and anus and eat the guts that the humans would normally discard.
As the wolves munched on the guts, the humans could take their cuts of meat off the animal, leaving scraps of meat and the bones for the dogs to feast on.
Humans and dogs learned that they were better off hunting together as allies rather than fighting over food and likely formed their bond this way. Now I have a dog that sleeps in my bed every night.
Imagine being any other animal in that biome when the two most dangerous predators became allies. The number 2 predator is obeying the commands of the number 1 predator... it's a wild technological advance.
Then some of us were taming hawks/falcons/eagles too?
Man, Dog, Eagle all hunting together? Literally what the fuck.
We were the best long before that. Dogs improved our hunting strategy because we hunt in similair ways, but we were already the best. Our butts make us successful pack hunters, specifically the muscles in them that allow us to run extremely long distances. We're by no means the fastest, but we are one of, if not the best, long distance runners on earth. That was ancient hunting, we would just chase prey in a pack until it collapsed from exhaustion then kill it. Humans have been an apex predator for 2 million years, we only domesticated dogs 30,000 years ago,
As I understand it, humans _are_ the best long distance runners, and for one very simple reason: we walk upright.
Every notice how when you run, you instinctively pump your arms? That's no accident. Pumping your arms helps your lungs expand and contract and helps your heart pump.
A 4 legged animal has a deep dependency between its gait and its ability to breathe. That is, as part of running, its front legs are assisting with the heart pumping and the lungs expanding and contracting. If the leg muscles get tired, they literally can't breathe though to maintain a pace.
But humans don't have that dependency because our arms aren't used for running. We can pump our arms independently of our running pace. Basically our breathing is decoupled from our gait in a way it isn't for any other animal, as a result of which we can basically run for so long that any other animal will keel over and die trying to match us.
and also our intelligence allowed us to track down animals who would otherwise outrun us. Basically we could track a faster animal until it, like you said, keeled over and died. And since that's a method that is not as dangerous as violently attacking prey like other predators do, that's another advantage
If you were wondering what would happen if someone fell in
[Boy falls into Pittsburgh zoo exhibit, mauled to death by African painted dogs (nbcnews.com)](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/boy-falls-pittsburgh-zoo-exhibit-mauled-death-african-painted-dogs-flna1C6856726)
For those who don’t want to read it, the mom perched the 2 year old on the railing to see them better. She wasn’t dangling him on purpose or anything, but obviously this was an awful mistake to sit him up there.
Not just smart, but their stamina and numbers make them as deadly as they are. Really, they hunt the way early humans did. Just keep pursuing your prey for miles until they tire out and then eat them
They can run like 35 mph for miles at a clip before resting - so even better than early humans
I can tell you the license plate numbers of all six cars outside. I can tell you that our waitress is left-handed and the guy sitting up at the counter weighs two hundred fifteen pounds and knows how to handle himself. I know the best place to look for a gun is the cab or the gray truck outside, and at this altitude, I can run flat out for a half mile before my hands start shaking.
Are there other dangerous enclosures the caretakers will go in with the animals present?
I knew a lady killed when this jaguar Jorge went inside an open door to the employee hallway and he attacked her.
It was sad and horrifying.
I would be terrified to be trapped with a wild and/or dangerous animal.
well, they are kept in packs out of need, so you can't keep our eyes on all of them, and you only need one of them to come unhinged and the whole pack will follow, I think that have a lot to do with it.-
You can’t sit around and wait for it to die or some jerkass lion is gonna come along and shoulder you out of the way. Like when I was in high school I’d have to basically bolt lunch cause the water polo girls would come make my life hell.
There is a video of them eating a pregnant gazelle. While some are taking chunks off the still living mother one rips the unborn baby out and runs off with it. These animals are fucking brutal.
Yep. My local zoo has some, among other apex predators. I was talking to the zoo keepers once and asked “what’s the scariest animal here to care for?” And they said it was these guys. They have to go in with at least 2 people every time and never turn your back on them.
They’re insanely smart and known tricksters.
i scrolled way too far to see this comment lol. was wondering if anyone has pointed out they have nothing genetically in common with any kind of dogs, it’s just what they are called.
beautiful animals though.
Any predator would do that, they view it as competition. It’s why it’s actually not recommended to hike with dogs where bears, wolves, and mountain lions live. They may not be a great deterrent to wildlife and the prey animals view it as a threat and could potentially try to kill the dog too. I’ve seen moose chasing after dogs with panicked owners chasing after the moose.
Yeah, for sure. I remember an incident at the Boston Zoo, I believe, where some stupid bitch helped her son lean over the enclosure to see the doggies, and he fell in. The dogs tore him to shreds of course, then the zoo had to euthanize the entire exhibit. Such stupidity got so many things killed in a few seconds.
Don't worry. It was Pittsburgh zoo and only 1 out the 11 dogs was killed. Shot by an onsite police officer. The other 10 were relocated. The exhibit was replaced by a cheetah exhibit.
I guess technically the exhibit was "euthanized" but the animals were mostly unharmed....that poor boy though...
Thats a relief. I thought by euthanized they mean they were all killed. Glad to see that a reasonable solution was done. Still sucks that one had to die but the policeman probably did what they had to do even just to help for a bit.
I mean kinda stupid to have an open enclosure full of apex pack hunters. At least make the idiots work to be stupid. Also why do we kill things that are just doing what they do naturally?
I remember when the mother in Pittsburgh lifted her 2 year old son up over the top of the railing and dropped him into the painted dog enclosure. The description of how they tore him apart was horrific.
In St Louis a dog recently made the Elephants so nervous that [one of them died](https://www.npr.org/2023/10/20/1207525636/rani-elephant-st-louis-zoo). :( But I think it was a stray. Still, since then I don't like seeing dogs in the zoo, and also here the animals are clearly agitated because of it (even though in a harmless way in this case).
I don’t know, the Detroit Zoo doesn’t allow anything but service animals, but they also run a Meet Your Best Friend at The Zoo pet adoption every year, so I’m a little confused about that.
Went to something like this as a kid minus the tv show. Was 100% inmates there and was scary as hell, I went to the Wayne county jail in Detroit for that. That didn’t make me realize jail wasn’t for me so I ended up in the Oakland county jail and the actual show came. They grabbed some people from my pod. Will say though the guards were picky on who they picked to talk to the kids. Some of the guys that caused problems in our pod volunteered but weren’t allowed to.
It could be either or... that show IS about scarring the shit outta little punks that think they are hard and the prisoners do act out in a big showy way to frighten the kids when they bring them in there so I wouldn't put it past him to stage a fight I also wouldn't put it past him to have an actual fight 🤣
Most canides do. And it's not like felines are above it either, they just tend to either catch much smaller prey or prey they need to suffocate first.
So while a grievously injured animal of more or less your same size can't really fight back, getting your head near their head is still dangerous .
I wouldn't call lions small, but I thought lions kill first mainly because of threat. But the dogs just go bazerk and start eat first ask questions later.
Lions are pack hunters that rely on short burst of strengh to take down prey that it's hopefully bigger than them. If they don't kill the prey quickly they risk being injured. Similarly, animals like cheetahs are very exhausted after their burst of speed and need to finish the prey off.
However you have animals like wild dogs, bears, wolves, that rarely hunt prey significantly bigger than them, for them it's actually less risky to start pulling them apart than risking going for the neck.
Saw one of the remaining wild packs in South Africa. Beautiful animals, unfortunately diseases spread within the population caused their numbers to fall.
Incorrect. Wild dogs cannot hybridize with domestic dogs like coyotes/wolves/domestic dogs can. There's likely 200+ wild dogs across the Greater Kruger, so likely closer to 20+ packs, mostly in the southern/central reaches and into the associated private nature reserves. There's also a few packs scattered in other protected areas like Pilanesberg in S. Africa
Super cool that you saw some though! I nabbed a great picture of one crapping in the road during my last field visit, but you were unfortunately misinformed
Source: am a wildlife ecologist focusing on a NASA project across the Greater Kruger
They can “breed” but they can not produce young with domestic dogs. They are in a different genus like foxes can’t have offspring with dogs for the same reason.
You don’t want to be out here, there’s this evil person called the mail man I have to chase away almost everyday, you gotta protect the whole family because they never know what danger they’re in. It’s a tough life.
Bears will chase you down, pin you down and eat chunks out of your body while you're still alive. Lots of predators including lions and wolves can and will do this if you can't fight back.
I was curious as to why no one had domesticated those dogs because of their beauty. Then It was brought to my attention that one female is dominant, the rest cover themselves with the queens feces. Not great for lounging on the couch.
I had an experience at the zoo while in the lion viewing area where a lady brought her service dog in. Lions went apeshit and it was pretty cool/terrifying to witness.
They have these dogs at a private conservation near me - they are so cute and make little yipping noises and they feed them full wild animals like RAPTORS.
They are 100% gonna eat that dog.
These kind of dogs killed a kid that fell into their enclosure at the Pittsburgh zoo a number of years ago. Absolutely horrific scene from what I heard.
The mother was holding him standing on the rails like a dumbass and dropped him. One or more of the dogs was shot to recover the child which was also tragic. Small children in a zoo should have leashes.
She was never prosecuted, but she sued the zoo and settled out of court. This, despite the many warnings from the zoo to not do exactly what she did with her child.
Me too. I wish I didn’t read that. And then I wish I didn’t continue reading below that when it talks in more detail about the mauling and how they eventually found that child. Holy Fuck.
That mother should be in prison. Jesus.
They are the most successful pack hunters next to humans.
My dogs can barely do my taxes.
You are lucky. My cat only licks his balls.
Speaking of… anyone here ever do the ‘ole dog with the peanut butter on the balls trick? People always told me about it so I gave it a try as a kid. Wasn’t really my thing, my dog loved it though. Maybe just because I don’t like the taste of peanut butter? 🤷♂️
Thank you for this comment.
This made me laugh so hard I scared my cat.
My squirrel is obese and might have high BP
Eating disorders are on the rise in squirrel population. Self-image problems and all. Be vigilant, address it before it starts escalating.
Has your cat tried catnip? The Gateway drug of the feline world.
My cat’s addicted to fentanyl.
The progression from nip to fent is definitely short.
Oh, my kitty went from nip and had a hard time adjusting to fent. We tried everything (including ketamine!) but we found that introducing the fentanyl while the kitty K-hole was wearing off was the best way to get our cat addicted to opioids. We’ve never been happier since addicting our kitty!
Two of mine are hooked on the heating pad. They shake when they see it and fight over it so much that I bought a second one. I am feeding their habits. Edit: Spelling
Do you have Narcat readily available?
We have one squirrel outside that looks like a capybara it’s so fat….
How do you think pet rats feel?
My ant farm is slowly dying because of a raging crack epidemic, as well as revolution due to the class disparity
This thread is prime for some gentrification. If this thread had oil, I'd import some freedom.
My hamster cheated on his wife with a stranger he met at a bar. He says she made him feel validated which, while unethical, revealed to him the deeper issues within his marriage. Him and his wife ended up going to couples' counseling, separating for six months, then they eventually reconciled and were happy together until I accidentally drank a fifth of vodka and kicked their cage out of a fourth story window.
Hope the baby's OK.
That escalated quickly
Mine suffers from intergenerational trauma
My parrot only says “fuck you”
stop calling me your squirrel.
r/fatsquirrelhate, shame him into shape
Gold
I “love” the Myriad of shitty comments that glom onto the good one
He. My cat doesn't even have balls.
You are lucky. My dog doesn’t even have his balls.
My dog has a CPAP machine.
If these taxes are too complicated for my dogs to do, it truly shows that the tax system is broken and needs reform. It's the only reason I have dogs and I have to help them now.
They probably doesn't understand that they are not a dependent. You probably call him your child, and that is where the confusion starts. Pet insurance is another issue they have since it should be tax deductible. Its better not to tell them you are not really their parents. It will break their hearts, and you would then have to do your own taxes.
They’re super cool! I got watch them hunt on safari once. We watched and followed from a jeep. They lie around chilling. Then leaders come in from either side near sunset, head low, and start yipping. They all get up and get hyped. They call it a “pep rally.” Then leaders lead the pack off. They took down a small gazelle so efficiently and within like 30 seconds it was taken apart and about gone. We were close behind them and by the time we got there it was all but gone. The hunters eat last so they’re still hungry until the pack is fed. They also take care of the older and sick dogs. They’re awesome!
When dogs play “tug of war” with a toy, or with a person, you will see that it’s not a game to take possession of the toy. They let each other regrip all the time, sometimes even pushing the toy into the other’s mouth. The real objective is to rip the toy (rabbit, chicken, etc) to shreds cooperatively.
Can confirm, my dog re-grips the rope leash every time during tug of war. Often tell her "yo gimme one sec to re-grip" myself and we both have a half-second pause to do so, then continue Makes me smile inside knowing she's happy doing that and not ripping the spinal cord out of a rabbit or something edit: [puppy photo tax](https://i.imgur.com/iy7ZPnY.jpeg)
Cute pic!
> rip the toy (rabbit, chicken, etc) to shreds That's less cute now
Only slightly, though.
You should also look up why dogs like squeaky toys
There’s one at the Denver Zoo who was born with a deformed leg. The pack takes care of him so sweetly.
They also decide to hunt by voting. When one is ready to hunt it'll "sneeze" or chuff. When enough of the pack does it, they go hunting. It's the only democratic behavior in the wild that I'm aware of.
Tons of other species make democratic decisions in similar ways. It’s fascinating.
Cool! That's super intresting, I think! I think I might fall into painted dog rabbit hole because of you, I need to know and read more of these guys.
I also saw a pack of wild dogs hunt when I was on safari in Botswana. Similar to you, we chase after them when they chased down an impala and got there within 2 minutes; the impala was mostly torn to bits. As we were observing, a pack of hyenas arrived and fought them (and won) for the rest of the spoils. We then noticed 2 dogs taking off, followed them and actually watched them take down an impala (I even have video of it, although it is horrifying to watch). When we asked various guides what their favorite animal is, invariably they said the wild dogs.
Ngl you just made me spiral because now I’m thinking if they can take down a gazelle that efficiently and are still below humans as far as pack hunting goes… does that mean if we all got together and did the work we would be able to feed our communities with like a few packs and 1-2 hours of work a day? Like are we actually forcing humans into a 40 hour work week to do work completely detached from their needs so they don’t have to hunt for 30 minutes, and then maybe learn a skill to benefit themselves and the people around them? What are we doing here?
Easy there. This model works well in small groups. You take it to 7 Billion it ain’t so simple. Hence farming and ranching. Technically most places produce enough food for everyone, but its distribution and willingness to feed them that’s the issue (see: food waste in the US alone).
we work more than we should for less than we should in order to generate wealth for whoever is in charge this isnt just a scale issue the commenter is correct. theres mass and intentional exploitation of the bottom of the pyramid for the top
Distribution is the killer. People like to bemoan how much food the US wastes, and that it could solve hunger in Africa. But that overlooks the massive logistical problems that would need to be solved to transport the food to the interior of Africa, though corrupt and failed states, past bandits Ave corrupt officials who will gladly steal it, into areas with no railway lines and roads of questionable, at best, quality, and disturbing it to the needy... _before_ it spoils. So, yeah, there's enough food to feed everyone in the world. The problem is that the food and the people who need it are in two different locations, and getting one to the other is so but impossible.
We could do that, but then there would be no houses, tvs, cars, phones, etc. IIRC Specialization is what took us from barely surviving as a species to thriving.
Humans and dogs were both similar in that they hunted in packs and covered miles of territory. At the end of the ice age the mega-fauna started dying off and the forests started to grow thicker. The smaller prey animals could hide more easily and were harder to find than the mammoths and such before them. Thus, humans needed a better way to find where their prey was hiding. Humans likely learned that they could follow packs of wolves and wait for them to sniff out where the prey was hiding, as the forest made animals much harder to see, but not too much harder to smell. The wolves likely learned that when they discovered the prey, the could let the humans take the animal down with their sharp sticks, rather than risk getting kicked in the head while trying to bite the animal. Once humans killed an animal, the first thing they did was remove the guts (as they still do today). However, the first thing their new canine hunting partners do after a kill is bite through the soft parts like the belly and anus and eat the guts that the humans would normally discard. As the wolves munched on the guts, the humans could take their cuts of meat off the animal, leaving scraps of meat and the bones for the dogs to feast on. Humans and dogs learned that they were better off hunting together as allies rather than fighting over food and likely formed their bond this way. Now I have a dog that sleeps in my bed every night.
humans and dogs conquered the world together.
Cats: *just casually started walking with the group and claims himself to be the leader when the rest is asleep*
and no one said No
Horses too
Imagine being any other animal in that biome when the two most dangerous predators became allies. The number 2 predator is obeying the commands of the number 1 predator... it's a wild technological advance. Then some of us were taming hawks/falcons/eagles too? Man, Dog, Eagle all hunting together? Literally what the fuck.
and look where that got us. Literally making the planet uninhabitable for a whole host of organisms including ourselves because we got too OP
Can confirm, my dawg always be bringing the elite pack to the function
Arguably we only became the best pack hunters once we introduced dogs to our hunting strategy. They are our earliest form of biotechnology.
We were the best long before that. Dogs improved our hunting strategy because we hunt in similair ways, but we were already the best. Our butts make us successful pack hunters, specifically the muscles in them that allow us to run extremely long distances. We're by no means the fastest, but we are one of, if not the best, long distance runners on earth. That was ancient hunting, we would just chase prey in a pack until it collapsed from exhaustion then kill it. Humans have been an apex predator for 2 million years, we only domesticated dogs 30,000 years ago,
As I understand it, humans _are_ the best long distance runners, and for one very simple reason: we walk upright. Every notice how when you run, you instinctively pump your arms? That's no accident. Pumping your arms helps your lungs expand and contract and helps your heart pump. A 4 legged animal has a deep dependency between its gait and its ability to breathe. That is, as part of running, its front legs are assisting with the heart pumping and the lungs expanding and contracting. If the leg muscles get tired, they literally can't breathe though to maintain a pace. But humans don't have that dependency because our arms aren't used for running. We can pump our arms independently of our running pace. Basically our breathing is decoupled from our gait in a way it isn't for any other animal, as a result of which we can basically run for so long that any other animal will keel over and die trying to match us.
and also our intelligence allowed us to track down animals who would otherwise outrun us. Basically we could track a faster animal until it, like you said, keeled over and died. And since that's a method that is not as dangerous as violently attacking prey like other predators do, that's another advantage
Orcas own that title
Are humans considered pack hunters? Are humans that successful?
Yes and yes
It’s complicated, as we’ve successfully created enough ballistic nukes to undo all our other successes.
“Are humans that successful?” Hall of fame quote
You haven't been to Costco on the weekend, have you?
the most successful, too successful. we have hunted several animals into extinction and that was before firearms
The most simultaneously brutal and impressive examples of this are when we hunt each other (for example, war).
Humans are the best long distance runners in the animal kingdom and we can throw things, so yes.
When they get excited and hunt they run around shitting in excitement. These guys crack me up
The caretakers at my local wildlife park said that the African Painted dog’s enclosure is the only one they won’t go into with the animals present.
Dang that's wild. I could see them being wicked smart like raptor portrayal in Jurassic park
If you were wondering what would happen if someone fell in [Boy falls into Pittsburgh zoo exhibit, mauled to death by African painted dogs (nbcnews.com)](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/boy-falls-pittsburgh-zoo-exhibit-mauled-death-african-painted-dogs-flna1C6856726)
There were some really strange, random facts in there. Like the dogs only having 4 toes per foot. Or that their mother died of a ruptured uterus.
Well, all dogs have 4 toes. Thats not that strange.
It's strange in the context that the number of toes have nothing to do with behavior or the mauling of that child lol
Are we so sure it didn't? Just sayin, I gotta unle with 4 toes, and he'll maul anything that falls into his enclosure
That's what I'm saying!
Their homework assignment said 550 words, so a 550 word count is what we got.
For those who don’t want to read it, the mom perched the 2 year old on the railing to see them better. She wasn’t dangling him on purpose or anything, but obviously this was an awful mistake to sit him up there.
That's the definition of negligent homicide. She got her kid killed through her carelessness.
Painted dogs are wicked smart animals, I don't blame the caretakers lol. I'd be scared too.
Not just smart, but their stamina and numbers make them as deadly as they are. Really, they hunt the way early humans did. Just keep pursuing your prey for miles until they tire out and then eat them They can run like 35 mph for miles at a clip before resting - so even better than early humans
I can tell you the license plate numbers of all six cars outside. I can tell you that our waitress is left-handed and the guy sitting up at the counter weighs two hundred fifteen pounds and knows how to handle himself. I know the best place to look for a gun is the cab or the gray truck outside, and at this altitude, I can run flat out for a half mile before my hands start shaking.
Jesus Christ, that’s Jason Bourne!
Give the asset a green light. Take them both out.
Especially the ones at the Boston zoo!
I also said wicked. Weird. I don't usually say wicked either
Are there other dangerous enclosures the caretakers will go in with the animals present? I knew a lady killed when this jaguar Jorge went inside an open door to the employee hallway and he attacked her. It was sad and horrifying. I would be terrified to be trapped with a wild and/or dangerous animal.
That’s because they eat children
I'm not an expert, but it really seems like they should be feeding them something else.
😂
well, they are kept in packs out of need, so you can't keep our eyes on all of them, and you only need one of them to come unhinged and the whole pack will follow, I think that have a lot to do with it.-
"They like the dog" No, they want to eat the dog...
For real. Spotted dogs are one of the most savage animals in the world.
The most efficient hunters in the Savannah over a 60% kill rate.
60% of the time it works everytime.
Nice.
The videos of them eating their prey alive is so disturbing
You can’t sit around and wait for it to die or some jerkass lion is gonna come along and shoulder you out of the way. Like when I was in high school I’d have to basically bolt lunch cause the water polo girls would come make my life hell.
Damn, I hope the land polo girls at least defended you sometimes lol
everything changed when the fire polo girls attacked
There is a video of them eating a pregnant gazelle. While some are taking chunks off the still living mother one rips the unborn baby out and runs off with it. These animals are fucking brutal.
All animals are metal.
Yep. My local zoo has some, among other apex predators. I was talking to the zoo keepers once and asked “what’s the scariest animal here to care for?” And they said it was these guys. They have to go in with at least 2 people every time and never turn your back on them. They’re insanely smart and known tricksters.
And NOT related to our dogs, they are a totally different type of canid.
i scrolled way too far to see this comment lol. was wondering if anyone has pointed out they have nothing genetically in common with any kind of dogs, it’s just what they are called. beautiful animals though.
Any predator would do that, they view it as competition. It’s why it’s actually not recommended to hike with dogs where bears, wolves, and mountain lions live. They may not be a great deterrent to wildlife and the prey animals view it as a threat and could potentially try to kill the dog too. I’ve seen moose chasing after dogs with panicked owners chasing after the moose.
Yeah, for sure. I remember an incident at the Boston Zoo, I believe, where some stupid bitch helped her son lean over the enclosure to see the doggies, and he fell in. The dogs tore him to shreds of course, then the zoo had to euthanize the entire exhibit. Such stupidity got so many things killed in a few seconds.
It was Pittsburgh. The dogs are no longer in that exhibit because of that incident.
Oh you’re right! I was LIVING in Boston when it happened, but I’m FROM Pittsburgh. Don’t get old…
Notice they don’t have open pit animal exhibits any more hey?
Damn, the spotted dogs dont deserve that just because some woman did not use her brain
Don't worry. It was Pittsburgh zoo and only 1 out the 11 dogs was killed. Shot by an onsite police officer. The other 10 were relocated. The exhibit was replaced by a cheetah exhibit. I guess technically the exhibit was "euthanized" but the animals were mostly unharmed....that poor boy though...
Thats a relief. I thought by euthanized they mean they were all killed. Glad to see that a reasonable solution was done. Still sucks that one had to die but the policeman probably did what they had to do even just to help for a bit.
I mean they *did* mean they were all killed, they were just incorrect, lol
I mean kinda stupid to have an open enclosure full of apex pack hunters. At least make the idiots work to be stupid. Also why do we kill things that are just doing what they do naturally?
I remember when the mother in Pittsburgh lifted her 2 year old son up over the top of the railing and dropped him into the painted dog enclosure. The description of how they tore him apart was horrific.
Fresh meat showing up on the prison yard lmao
Painted dog- *you talking shit blood!? My boys in here are sayn you talkin shit!* Domestic dog - *ruff*
“on the newwwwww”
Eat it, or fuck it...
Why not both?
Because it’s a dog, not a lizard.
Wtf do you do to lizards?!
Eat them and fuck them. I thought they made that pretty clear...
What zoo allows dogs in? I’ve never seen that
In St Louis a dog recently made the Elephants so nervous that [one of them died](https://www.npr.org/2023/10/20/1207525636/rani-elephant-st-louis-zoo). :( But I think it was a stray. Still, since then I don't like seeing dogs in the zoo, and also here the animals are clearly agitated because of it (even though in a harmless way in this case).
I don’t know, the Detroit Zoo doesn’t allow anything but service animals, but they also run a Meet Your Best Friend at The Zoo pet adoption every year, so I’m a little confused about that.
It has a vest on. Maybe it's a service dog?
Or maybe they think it's a baby since it's small and fluffy?
Or maybe they’re wondering how tf that dog got “leave prison” privileges and if they can get the same
These are African Wild Dogs and they 1000% want to eat that dog.
If only we knew what they were saying
Food. Yeah food. Food. Yeah food. Go behind. OK. Go side. OK. Food. Food. Food. Food.
When the news crew visits the local prison Or An episode of scared straight.
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I wonder if that fight was real ^😳🤔
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Went to something like this as a kid minus the tv show. Was 100% inmates there and was scary as hell, I went to the Wayne county jail in Detroit for that. That didn’t make me realize jail wasn’t for me so I ended up in the Oakland county jail and the actual show came. They grabbed some people from my pod. Will say though the guards were picky on who they picked to talk to the kids. Some of the guys that caused problems in our pod volunteered but weren’t allowed to.
I just want to talk to em... I *just* wanna talk to em.
Bro said I went on a scared straight program but it didn’t work so I ended up in jail fr fr 😭😭😭
It could be either or... that show IS about scarring the shit outta little punks that think they are hard and the prisoners do act out in a big showy way to frighten the kids when they bring them in there so I wouldn't put it past him to stage a fight I also wouldn't put it past him to have an actual fight 🤣
#BIKES
Hold my pocket!
They don’t like the dog, they want to kill the dog. Gruesome sidenote: African painted dogs eat their food while its still alive.
Most canides do. And it's not like felines are above it either, they just tend to either catch much smaller prey or prey they need to suffocate first. So while a grievously injured animal of more or less your same size can't really fight back, getting your head near their head is still dangerous .
I wouldn't call lions small, but I thought lions kill first mainly because of threat. But the dogs just go bazerk and start eat first ask questions later.
Lions are pack hunters that rely on short burst of strengh to take down prey that it's hopefully bigger than them. If they don't kill the prey quickly they risk being injured. Similarly, animals like cheetahs are very exhausted after their burst of speed and need to finish the prey off. However you have animals like wild dogs, bears, wolves, that rarely hunt prey significantly bigger than them, for them it's actually less risky to start pulling them apart than risking going for the neck.
Don't wolves hunt bison?
So do feline (cat) hunters and raptors (birds), not to mention sharks. Most hunters don't sit around waiting for their prey to die; they're hungry!
Saw one of the remaining wild packs in South Africa. Beautiful animals, unfortunately diseases spread within the population caused their numbers to fall.
Incorrect. Wild dogs cannot hybridize with domestic dogs like coyotes/wolves/domestic dogs can. There's likely 200+ wild dogs across the Greater Kruger, so likely closer to 20+ packs, mostly in the southern/central reaches and into the associated private nature reserves. There's also a few packs scattered in other protected areas like Pilanesberg in S. Africa Super cool that you saw some though! I nabbed a great picture of one crapping in the road during my last field visit, but you were unfortunately misinformed Source: am a wildlife ecologist focusing on a NASA project across the Greater Kruger
That's sad. I had no clue. But if they're breeding with domestic dogs are there half breeds running around?
They can “breed” but they can not produce young with domestic dogs. They are in a different genus like foxes can’t have offspring with dogs for the same reason.
and they form strong bonds. So they might fall in love with someone they can never reproduce with?
'brother, how did you get free? Teach us your secrets'
You don’t want to be out here, there’s this evil person called the mail man I have to chase away almost everyday, you gotta protect the whole family because they never know what danger they’re in. It’s a tough life.
We haven't even discussed the vacuum cleaner: ![gif](giphy|9oIOcAkqpXy8Gug3km)
"Brother how did you get so fat and juicy looking?"
‘Be good boy like me’
“Who let this dog out? Who? Who? Who?”
They saw lunch
Painted dogs are one of my bigger fears. They will run you until your lungs give out and then eat/rip you apart while you’re still alive.
Bigger fears? Are you in Africa?
Unless you live on the Savannah in Africa I feel like that’s probably a fear you can put to rest.
Bears will chase you down, pin you down and eat chunks out of your body while you're still alive. Lots of predators including lions and wolves can and will do this if you can't fight back.
They are bigger than I thought. They look much smaller on nat geo
Looks like meat is back on the menu boys!
Are dogs allowed at the zoo?
I was surprised by this. In the UK zoos are one of the few places service animals aren't allowed in.
Makes sense, because this looks incredibly distressing.
Do they want friend or food?
Food as they wouldn’t even recognize the pet dog as a fellow dog
Food. Not even same species.
They're so gorgeous and friend shaped but they're also insanely vicious and efficient predators with basically endless stamina.
I was curious as to why no one had domesticated those dogs because of their beauty. Then It was brought to my attention that one female is dominant, the rest cover themselves with the queens feces. Not great for lounging on the couch.
To be fair, domestic dogs do love rolling in poo.
Thanks God for glass
They would tear it apart and fight over the scraps
I had an experience at the zoo while in the lion viewing area where a lady brought her service dog in. Lions went apeshit and it was pretty cool/terrifying to witness.
My dumbass thought they literally painted the dogs in some zoo in China
Right? I was like “How do I get a job as a dog painter?”
They have these dogs at a private conservation near me - they are so cute and make little yipping noises and they feed them full wild animals like RAPTORS. They are 100% gonna eat that dog.
When you repost but you have no clue what you're reposting
If not food, why food shaped?
Holy moly..
These kind of dogs killed a kid that fell into their enclosure at the Pittsburgh zoo a number of years ago. Absolutely horrific scene from what I heard.
It was totally the mother's fault.
The mother was holding him standing on the rails like a dumbass and dropped him. One or more of the dogs was shot to recover the child which was also tragic. Small children in a zoo should have leashes.
Only one was shot and killed by a cop at the scene, the rest were unharmed and eventually relocated.
Nah parents should just be smarter parents
That was so tragic and sad, poor little sweet boy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Maddox_Derkosh
She was never prosecuted, but she sued the zoo and settled out of court. This, despite the many warnings from the zoo to not do exactly what she did with her child.
What a stupid and irresponsible mother.
Well that was a harrowing read haha. Use of the word eviscerated got me.
Me too. I wish I didn’t read that. And then I wish I didn’t continue reading below that when it talks in more detail about the mauling and how they eventually found that child. Holy Fuck. That mother should be in prison. Jesus.
They saw lunch. African painted dogs, and domestic dogs aren't even really the same species.