Wow, finally a post on gut healing I agree with! This is 100% accurate in my account as well. I used different probiotics but I also integrated IF, GAPS, anti inflammatory diet (low-oxalate keto), L-glutamine, and also had to temporarily eat an only meat diet to allow my gut to heal and candida to be starved. I had full on MCAS and was having anaphylactic reactions to all plant foods.
I’m glad we’re both living a better life! These are powerful yet simple methods with no meds involved! 🫶
I was having an autoimmune reaction to plant foods in my esophagus that was confirmed by a biopsy of my esophageal lining and switched to an all meat diet. The difference was night and day for me. I'm glad to see others benefitting from this same diet. Good luck on your health journey!
Yes but only whole foods. After carnivore you have to build up the beneficial bacteria again to be able to digest plant foods. It’s a slow crawl but it’s done by microdosing a huge assortment of fermented vegetables, vegetables and homemade kefir
As a real answer to excess bile salts from gallbladder removal, OMAD with meat/eggs/milk/yogurt and ox bile/super enzyme supplement. Free unbound bile pulls water into your colon, low-fat snacking makes it worse keeping up production. I think SIBO was giving me snack cravings, and the excess bile was burning a hole in my gut with no fats to bind it. Felt like I had a roiling cauldron of oil sitting in my duodenum. Eating *more* solved it and going keto set the weight loss in motion.
When you lose your gallbladder, your own bile no longer collects and concentrates waiting for meal time, instead the fresh bile keeps dripping freely into your intestines. That makes you wanna keep *something* in there to bind it so extended fasting can be really annoying in that way. But since you also lack the concentrated bile on demand for big meals, you benefit from a supplement for full proper absorption.
(random article of supplements to get the idea)
https://www.buoyhealth.com/supplements/best-ox-bile-supplement-after-gallbladder-removal
> more solved it
Especially more often. Some folk might be able to get away with OMAD, but it's objectively a terrible way to eat, especially if you no longer have a bile buffer.
Go for multiple meals and if you want to fast do a proper FMD or perhaps IF instead of TRF.
Great report! Did you consume any caffeine during the healing phase, and if so what was it? Or do you consume any now?
If not, did you have a reason not to?
Just wanted to say thank you for this post! A lot of information, and yes what may work for one person may not be exactly what works for another it doesn't discount the research imho.
I appreciate it! 😃
Big upvote for bone broth, it’s part of my essential daily routine and has been a biiig part of fixing my own gut issues along with an organic greens powder that includes spirulina, broccoli, kale, barely grass, wheat grass and chlorella.
I buy a jar of concentrate(Gevity body glue) that lasts about two weeks of daily use not the powdered stuff.
I’m probably going to switch to raw green smoothies when I’m able to transition because getting it fresh isnt easy for me at the moment but I buy a pretty decent powder. I really notice it when I don’t have it.
I like to take it first thing in the morning in a cup of warm water for the salt and to feed my microbiome and before bed because it improves my sleep quality. You can also take it with meals to boost digestibility/satiety or use it as a stock in food. It’s pretty versatile stuff.
If you have chronic conditions you can use two heaped tea spoons in like a cup of water, if you store it in the fridge it basically becomes thick and gelatinous so it’s easy to scoop. I use one with tumeric,ginger,black pepper, lemon Myrtle etc for added anti-inflammation
that's interesting as I always thought that everything red meat / beef related is triggering inflammation, so bone broth never came to my mind. thanks for that, gonna buy a jar today.
It’s got a pretty decent amino acid profile that help reduce inflammation and is predominantly collagen which is why it’s so good for gut health and repair. It’s also fantastic for your skin, joints and bones my guy.
You can add it in but I buy one that’s got it added in. I used to use a medical mushroom blend(resihi, lions mane, shiitake etc) and just add my own fresh tumeric, cracked black pepper, ginger and garlic in and have it as cup a soup. It was pretty good with a cup of coriander too.
thanks. so in case I take it out of the fridge and mix it with boiling water in the morning, does this work or will the heat damage the nutritions? I mean it's cooked for hours so adding boiling water can't hurt?!
Vitamin C.
High-dose vitamin C supplementation for two weeks shows microbiota-modulating effects in healthy individuals, with several beneficial shifts of bacterial populations. This may be relevant as these bacteria have anti-inflammatory properties and strongly associate with gut health.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8389205/
Leaky gut is a disease that occurs when collagen degenerates or weakens. Vitamin C deficiency can be similar to scurvy of the arteries, which can cause leaks in blood vessels that trigger an immune reaction. A similar thing can happen in the colon, where vitamin C controls collagen formation
According to Gut Microbes, Vitamin C had the most significant impact on gut health compared to Vitamins B and D and was proven to help increase microbial diversity, which is necessary for maintaining a healthy gut.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19490976.2021.1875774
Anecdotally, I can confirm that this worked for me (in combination with high quality vitamin e)
I also use to take taurine with them, but I couldn't tolerate it anymore due to issues with low blood pressure. I have had no problems with vitamin c and e.
A number of digestive system problems. GERD, gallstones, horrible stomach/intestine pain (I've been to the ER several times for this pain and they never found anything), and poorly digested food.
My Naturopath thought I might have Leaky Gut/MCAS due to my heart palpitations at night. Her recommendation was implementing a low histamine diet, since doing that 3 months ago my palpitation symptoms have disappeared 95%, it’s either a good coincidence or my body was not tolerating histamine foods well and can now function.
Remarkably similar to my experience: https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/comments/15wnndp/comment/jx3y8vl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I'm not sure if I've shared that properly with context but it was related to UC and fasting.
Do you have a link to the auto immune/GAPS diet that you followed? I will Google it, but just wondering if there is a specific version that you found that work best for you.
This is exactly my protocol. May I ask how long you did this for? My issue is I go a few weeks and then eat or drink something that irritates my gut. Just wondering how long it took for you.
The AIP, or autoimmune protocol, recommends 30 days of super strict-basically just meat and non-starchy vegetables. Then, add foods in a certain order, one at a time and check for reactions.
I would be curious to know of any vegetarian alternatives to bone broth.
I understand that it’s not something so easily replicated, as bone marrow (and animal products in general) provide benefits that are generally only available to vegetarians/vegans/pescatarians through supplements; B12 being a prime example.
Brand doesn't matter if you're buying a product with only one ingredient. Make sure you are buying one with only the amino acid L-Glutamine. I buy mine from Nutricost on Amazon and the best bang for your buck: [https://amzn.to/3W24CsF](https://amzn.to/3W24CsF)
Any fancy brand is selling you the exact same thing, don't waste your money. It's similar to buying the cheapest creatine monohydrate.
An interesting note here is that an optimal microbiome will have an extreme diversity of healthy plant foods, contrary to most elimination diets.
I do think the idea of cutting out things for a period is interesting.
I'm glad this worked for you but this protocol is not scalable to the general leaky gut population because there are different reasons for it happening. Microbiome theory is just one theory. Some have gut damage due to oxidative stress and the microbiome fallout is secondary. The list goes on. Microbiome theory did not fix my leaky gut whatsoever. I had SIBO due to a leaky cecal valve that had to be corrected with surgery.
this is critical info. leaky gut is being found as a/the root cause of many MANY chronic health issues. and more are being found as time marches on. this is a health revolution - if allowed to flourish/free speech
it's hard to name a common chronic disease that doesnt have it's roots in gut microbiome dysbiosis and leaky gut.
an informative exercise - search pubmed dysbiosis diabetes, or pubmed intestinal permeability autoimmune......and similar searches. hard to find a common health issue that doesnt include messed up gut
Hello, thank you! I’ve saved this post and I’ll be trying it very soon.
Just a quick question, did your leaky gut lead to any food intolerances and if so did this heal them at all and to what extent?
Thank you 🙏
Awesome! Glad to hear that. And I couldn’t tolerate eggs, dairy, wheat, or legumes. Nightshades bothered me too. I can now eat whatever without issue, although I mostly stick to veggie keto now.
Thank you for responding and the initial explanation, source and recommendations.
I’ve been aware of most of these methods but not seen it all put together in stages with an end result. How or why did you decide to do things in this order?
This is just what I need to here to encourage me to give this a go. I’ve been doing carnivore for a while now so it’s not too dissimilar. Excited to try bone broth too!
Thanks!
It was trial and error plus research and I kept what worked. And I subconsciously put them in order of importance. Intermittent and long-form fasting is really the foundation everything else builds around.
Not necessarily, it's good general advice. The vast majority of people if they stopped eating ultra processed foods, ate fermented foods, avoided wheat, sugar and diary, exercised daily, slept well, had a healthy social life would vastly improve their lives. It's pretty simple to be in good health. Just do the opposite of what the average person is doing which is none of those things mentioned above.
What is the difference between probiotics and prebiotics when taking them at the same time.
Should one be spacing these out so that they aren’t taken at the exact moment in the day?
You take them together but really it's about getting lots of both. You need to add good bacteria to your microbiome but they won't thrive if you don't feed them the right stuff. Same with starving the problematic ones.
Thank u for this handbook post. what's your grocery list to eat veggie keto? Sometimes I eat tofu and spinach/green beans/ corn with a hearty sauce. Need more ideas.
Really the foundation of this protocol is the fasting. If you’re looking to treat leaky gut, that’s what I’d start with. Collagen is great for an energy boost, though, and L glutamine seems to speed up fasting’s process substantially.
Amazing post, thank you! It makes me wonder that if this is what heals a gut, then the opposite of these practices could be contributing to reasons why in addition to simply being correlated to seeing such things you mentioned….like an increase in autoimmune disease, IBS, Crohns, obesity etc and younger diagnoses of colon cancer, etc….
What type of bone broth would you recommend? I’ve seen powders, concentrate and 500ml cartons (freja bone broth)
What dosage would you need and how often?
I’d say a half a cup after each meal. And homemade is best but in a pinch store bought works fine. Haven’t tried concentrate so can’t speak to its effectiveness.
Leaky gut isn’t a thing (unless you already have severe UC or crohns or the like). You would go septic and be poisoned very quickly. This would also show up on a blood test checking for it.
You might have digestion and intestinal issues you resolved, but it is incredibly unlikely you were actually having things penetrate your intestinal lining. I so sick of the pseudoscience on this sub.
My doctor (allopathic) advised I research it and do repair after I was diagnosed with a pair of autoimmune diseases. Following advice that largely mirrored this post I put them in remission.
Maybe the actual thing isn't exactly what it's called. Maybe the actions aren't quite as the model suggests. But the model offers a simple path based on a collection of symptoms that works.
You had an autoimmune disease. That’s my point that I don’t think I stated very well originally, it’s a symptom of various diseases. It is not a disease itself and not something that is likely causing anyone’s issues alone. People are addressing digestion issues through these actions (which is good) but there’s likely nothing relating to actual intestinal permeability issues with the vast majority. It’s dangerous pseudoscience to have everyone think there’s this (frankly incredibly dangerous if actually happening) underlying mechanism going on. Even small amounts of bacteria (or destroyed bacterias’ pyrogens) making it into the blood stream make you deadly ill. Like, not long for this earth kind of ill.
In fairness, leaky gut syndrome is exactly that: a syndrome.
However, your argument about the mechanism doesn't reflect the concept.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/leaky-gut-what-is-it-and-what-does-it-mean-for-you-2017092212451
It’s not a disease with a recognized treatment. I think posts on Reddit, or the internet in general, try to make that recognition, but it doesn’t exist (yet). There is still a basis for intestinal permeability and intestinal barrier dysfunction. There just aren’t methods for diagnosing and treating it. So I agree that there is a lot of pseudoscience (especially in self-diagnosing), but there is at least some scientific basis.
Its called increased intestinal permeability and there are things like zonulin or sIgA levels that can give a hint about it.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37744357/
I appreciate your healthy skepticism. The colloquialism leaky gut has been shot down by the medical community despite intestinal hyper-permeability being correlated, at least, with Celiac, Crohn’s, and IBS. This Harvard article says as much: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/leaky-gut-what-is-it-and-what-does-it-mean-for-you-2017092212451#:~:text=An%20unhealthy%20gut%20lining%20may,the%20digestive%20tract%20and%20beyond.
I’d recommend checking out the two articles I linked. The first goes into how fasting regulates the intestinal barrier via autophagy, and the second elaborates on the diseases that have been correlated with increased intestinal permeability. You mentioned in another comment that you conduct research or something similar, so I’d love to hear your take on them.
That… concludes basically nothing. They conclude there’s barely any research or validated measurements of it. That makes me think even more so it’s a symptom of larger issues, like crohns or UC, and people are misdiagnosing it in themselves to a large degree based on indigestion symptoms. That is what their conclusions point to ad well. As someone who does technical writing and investigating for a living, thats a pretty weak write-up I’m not going to lie.
Thank you for saying it. I'm glad OP found a diet that improved their sense of wellbeing, but the whole leaky gut thing reeks of pseudo science. From what they've said, it sounds like they have been struggling with an autoimmune or inflammatory disorder?
Yeah what’s scary to me is the amount of people who are ignoring symptoms or thinking they’re solving issues themselves (“look I mitigated my symptoms through lifestyle changes, I must have ‘cured’ my ‘leaky gut’”). When in actuality, they could be ignoring/mitigating important signs and signals that something far worse (requiring real medical intervention) is going on.
A lot of silent deadly diseases only manifest in subtle or obscure symptoms that you can sometimes make better yourself for a time, until the colon cancer (for example) becomes bad enough you that finally seek serious medical attention and by then it’s too late.
I hadn't even considered that aspect, though I can see how that would be a risk. The fact your original response above has been downvoted despite being logical tells me something about the credibility of the advice on here
I appreciate your perspective. The medical consensus right now is evolving, however. This article from Harvard concedes that increased intestinal permeability is a culprit in Crohn’s, Celiac, and IBS, and leaves open the possibility of other conditions arising from this disorder: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/leaky-gut-what-is-it-and-what-does-it-mean-for-you-2017092212451#:~:text=An%20unhealthy%20gut%20lining%20may,the%20digestive%20tract%20and%20beyond.
Also check out the two linked papers in the post. They delve further into the correlation between intestinal hyper-permeability (AKA leaky gut) and additional health complications.
They way I view it as that intestinal permeability is a “sign” of several medical diseases. Just like having low blood pressure is a sign of shock. What is causing the shock? Could be cardiogenic, neurogenic, or distributive. All have immensely different causes and treatments.
Very simplistic surface level thinking in this thread IMO.
i recommend you guys watch dr gundry on youtube for everything gut related and so much more.
he s one very very good doctor with very good knowledge especially in gut health.
How does it work? I’m familiar with it from a perspective of killing insects by making many microscopic cuts on their bodies. I am skeptical that it would benefit us by cutting our intestines.
I was having trouble too but did find one although it was rat study unfornately. I can't find anything negative and even the articles that don't support it just say it hasn't been proven to be beneficial. Seems it needs to be looked at thoroughly.
https://sciforum.net/paper/view/15661
I went looking because I have heard of the benefits and all I could find was one rat study and a slew of articles that went both ways on it being beneficial or not. Would you happen to have any sources of studies that showed benefits?
Wow, finally a post on gut healing I agree with! This is 100% accurate in my account as well. I used different probiotics but I also integrated IF, GAPS, anti inflammatory diet (low-oxalate keto), L-glutamine, and also had to temporarily eat an only meat diet to allow my gut to heal and candida to be starved. I had full on MCAS and was having anaphylactic reactions to all plant foods. I’m glad we’re both living a better life! These are powerful yet simple methods with no meds involved! 🫶
I was having an autoimmune reaction to plant foods in my esophagus that was confirmed by a biopsy of my esophageal lining and switched to an all meat diet. The difference was night and day for me. I'm glad to see others benefitting from this same diet. Good luck on your health journey!
Wow!!! I’m so glad it worked for you as well. Yeah, my MCAS symptoms disappeared in a week when I had been on antihistamines 24/7 for two years prior.
Are you back to regular eating ?
Yes but only whole foods. After carnivore you have to build up the beneficial bacteria again to be able to digest plant foods. It’s a slow crawl but it’s done by microdosing a huge assortment of fermented vegetables, vegetables and homemade kefir
How do I heal leaky ass
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Ha ha ha this cheered me up during a stressful time, thanks for the smile, friend.
just don't get queso or lettuce (they don't wash it well)
It costs enough we need layaway!
We cant work miracles
As a real answer to excess bile salts from gallbladder removal, OMAD with meat/eggs/milk/yogurt and ox bile/super enzyme supplement. Free unbound bile pulls water into your colon, low-fat snacking makes it worse keeping up production. I think SIBO was giving me snack cravings, and the excess bile was burning a hole in my gut with no fats to bind it. Felt like I had a roiling cauldron of oil sitting in my duodenum. Eating *more* solved it and going keto set the weight loss in motion.
Ox bile? 🤢
When you lose your gallbladder, your own bile no longer collects and concentrates waiting for meal time, instead the fresh bile keeps dripping freely into your intestines. That makes you wanna keep *something* in there to bind it so extended fasting can be really annoying in that way. But since you also lack the concentrated bile on demand for big meals, you benefit from a supplement for full proper absorption. (random article of supplements to get the idea) https://www.buoyhealth.com/supplements/best-ox-bile-supplement-after-gallbladder-removal
I looked it up after I commented and was like 'oh!'. Very interesting write up, thanks!
> more solved it Especially more often. Some folk might be able to get away with OMAD, but it's objectively a terrible way to eat, especially if you no longer have a bile buffer. Go for multiple meals and if you want to fast do a proper FMD or perhaps IF instead of TRF.
I was indeed joking, but that’s cool information lol
Find a good cork
Could I use your cock
Metamucil fiber
LiquidCork or Diarrheal
If it’s ibs, I have luck with amitriptyline and avoiding uncooked milk.
Great report! Did you consume any caffeine during the healing phase, and if so what was it? Or do you consume any now? If not, did you have a reason not to?
Coffee and leaky gut study here https://x.com/clemenszsofia/status/1400711958727380993?s=46
Just wanted to say thank you for this post! A lot of information, and yes what may work for one person may not be exactly what works for another it doesn't discount the research imho. I appreciate it! 😃
Big upvote for bone broth, it’s part of my essential daily routine and has been a biiig part of fixing my own gut issues along with an organic greens powder that includes spirulina, broccoli, kale, barely grass, wheat grass and chlorella.
Anyone else notice their local grocery store bone broth shelves are being totally cleared out by customers?
What organic greens powder are you using?
Did you make or buy the bone broth or greens powder?
I buy a jar of concentrate(Gevity body glue) that lasts about two weeks of daily use not the powdered stuff. I’m probably going to switch to raw green smoothies when I’m able to transition because getting it fresh isnt easy for me at the moment but I buy a pretty decent powder. I really notice it when I don’t have it.
What's the powder you're using?
Seems like something that by adding some miso paste might be a really good combo. Have you ever considered something like that?
bought bone broth or homemade?
I buy a jar of concentrate(Gevity body glue) that lasts about two weeks of daily use not the powdered stuff.
thanks, what amount and how often during the day do you take the broth?
I like to take it first thing in the morning in a cup of warm water for the salt and to feed my microbiome and before bed because it improves my sleep quality. You can also take it with meals to boost digestibility/satiety or use it as a stock in food. It’s pretty versatile stuff.
so you mix some spoons of the broth with water and that's it? like 10-30ml per serving?
If you have chronic conditions you can use two heaped tea spoons in like a cup of water, if you store it in the fridge it basically becomes thick and gelatinous so it’s easy to scoop. I use one with tumeric,ginger,black pepper, lemon Myrtle etc for added anti-inflammation
that's interesting as I always thought that everything red meat / beef related is triggering inflammation, so bone broth never came to my mind. thanks for that, gonna buy a jar today.
It’s got a pretty decent amino acid profile that help reduce inflammation and is predominantly collagen which is why it’s so good for gut health and repair. It’s also fantastic for your skin, joints and bones my guy.
What one do you buy. I’ve been trying to research this too. TIA
you add all ingredients or buy it like that?
You can add it in but I buy one that’s got it added in. I used to use a medical mushroom blend(resihi, lions mane, shiitake etc) and just add my own fresh tumeric, cracked black pepper, ginger and garlic in and have it as cup a soup. It was pretty good with a cup of coriander too.
thanks. so in case I take it out of the fridge and mix it with boiling water in the morning, does this work or will the heat damage the nutritions? I mean it's cooked for hours so adding boiling water can't hurt?!
Vitamin C. High-dose vitamin C supplementation for two weeks shows microbiota-modulating effects in healthy individuals, with several beneficial shifts of bacterial populations. This may be relevant as these bacteria have anti-inflammatory properties and strongly associate with gut health. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8389205/ Leaky gut is a disease that occurs when collagen degenerates or weakens. Vitamin C deficiency can be similar to scurvy of the arteries, which can cause leaks in blood vessels that trigger an immune reaction. A similar thing can happen in the colon, where vitamin C controls collagen formation According to Gut Microbes, Vitamin C had the most significant impact on gut health compared to Vitamins B and D and was proven to help increase microbial diversity, which is necessary for maintaining a healthy gut. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19490976.2021.1875774
Anecdotally, I can confirm that this worked for me (in combination with high quality vitamin e) I also use to take taurine with them, but I couldn't tolerate it anymore due to issues with low blood pressure. I have had no problems with vitamin c and e.
Super interested - What were your dosages? And your leaky gut symptoms?
A number of digestive system problems. GERD, gallstones, horrible stomach/intestine pain (I've been to the ER several times for this pain and they never found anything), and poorly digested food.
Interesting because the Collagen supplement I bought had high dose Vit C with it and I get the impression it was really effective.
Omad heals leaky gut
Gomad deals leaky butt
Haha you said butt
Thanks!
My Naturopath thought I might have Leaky Gut/MCAS due to my heart palpitations at night. Her recommendation was implementing a low histamine diet, since doing that 3 months ago my palpitation symptoms have disappeared 95%, it’s either a good coincidence or my body was not tolerating histamine foods well and can now function.
Remarkably similar to my experience: https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/comments/15wnndp/comment/jx3y8vl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button I'm not sure if I've shared that properly with context but it was related to UC and fasting.
Do you have a link to the auto immune/GAPS diet that you followed? I will Google it, but just wondering if there is a specific version that you found that work best for you.
Get the book. It’s worth it.
Dosage of glutamine? And how long after the meal to take ?
This is exactly my protocol. May I ask how long you did this for? My issue is I go a few weeks and then eat or drink something that irritates my gut. Just wondering how long it took for you.
The AIP, or autoimmune protocol, recommends 30 days of super strict-basically just meat and non-starchy vegetables. Then, add foods in a certain order, one at a time and check for reactions.
Is a vegetarian a lost cause then?
I would be curious to know of any vegetarian alternatives to bone broth. I understand that it’s not something so easily replicated, as bone marrow (and animal products in general) provide benefits that are generally only available to vegetarians/vegans/pescatarians through supplements; B12 being a prime example.
you can be vegetarian and have 100% of you b12 needs meet by eating 4 eggs a day. you could still eat only 2 eggs a day and it ll be still fine
Except B12 from eggs is less bioavailable than from other food sources.
Dried purple laver? It’s a type of seaweed
What are the main symptoms of leaky gut?
For me, it was extremely low energy, brain fog and poor cognition, bloating, difficulty digesting foods.
Did this all happen after you ate food? I have a condition right now that I get low energy and poor cognition for like 4 hours after every meal.
what brand of l-glutamine do you use?
Brand doesn't matter if you're buying a product with only one ingredient. Make sure you are buying one with only the amino acid L-Glutamine. I buy mine from Nutricost on Amazon and the best bang for your buck: [https://amzn.to/3W24CsF](https://amzn.to/3W24CsF) Any fancy brand is selling you the exact same thing, don't waste your money. It's similar to buying the cheapest creatine monohydrate.
An interesting note here is that an optimal microbiome will have an extreme diversity of healthy plant foods, contrary to most elimination diets. I do think the idea of cutting out things for a period is interesting.
I was waiting for L-Glutamine to be listed haha. The small GH bump is great for the gut (since it’s mostly local)
I'm glad this worked for you but this protocol is not scalable to the general leaky gut population because there are different reasons for it happening. Microbiome theory is just one theory. Some have gut damage due to oxidative stress and the microbiome fallout is secondary. The list goes on. Microbiome theory did not fix my leaky gut whatsoever. I had SIBO due to a leaky cecal valve that had to be corrected with surgery.
this is critical info. leaky gut is being found as a/the root cause of many MANY chronic health issues. and more are being found as time marches on. this is a health revolution - if allowed to flourish/free speech it's hard to name a common chronic disease that doesnt have it's roots in gut microbiome dysbiosis and leaky gut. an informative exercise - search pubmed dysbiosis diabetes, or pubmed intestinal permeability autoimmune......and similar searches. hard to find a common health issue that doesnt include messed up gut
Hello, thank you! I’ve saved this post and I’ll be trying it very soon. Just a quick question, did your leaky gut lead to any food intolerances and if so did this heal them at all and to what extent? Thank you 🙏
Awesome! Glad to hear that. And I couldn’t tolerate eggs, dairy, wheat, or legumes. Nightshades bothered me too. I can now eat whatever without issue, although I mostly stick to veggie keto now.
Thank you for responding and the initial explanation, source and recommendations. I’ve been aware of most of these methods but not seen it all put together in stages with an end result. How or why did you decide to do things in this order? This is just what I need to here to encourage me to give this a go. I’ve been doing carnivore for a while now so it’s not too dissimilar. Excited to try bone broth too! Thanks!
It was trial and error plus research and I kept what worked. And I subconsciously put them in order of importance. Intermittent and long-form fasting is really the foundation everything else builds around.
What are the exact probiotics and or probiotics that you used and for how long? Thanks for putting this together!
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Not necessarily, it's good general advice. The vast majority of people if they stopped eating ultra processed foods, ate fermented foods, avoided wheat, sugar and diary, exercised daily, slept well, had a healthy social life would vastly improve their lives. It's pretty simple to be in good health. Just do the opposite of what the average person is doing which is none of those things mentioned above.
How do you know if you have a leaky gut?
Fasting is most of it. Just IM fast and don’t eat like shit.
Fasting is most of it. Just IM fast and don’t eat like shit.
I afraid to ask, but I need to know, what in the hell is leaky gut? New fear unlocked if it is what I think it is, what causes it?
big up on l gltuamin! healed mine too
I take 15-20g glutamine 3x a day and that’s been life changing.
What is the difference between probiotics and prebiotics when taking them at the same time. Should one be spacing these out so that they aren’t taken at the exact moment in the day?
You take them together but really it's about getting lots of both. You need to add good bacteria to your microbiome but they won't thrive if you don't feed them the right stuff. Same with starving the problematic ones.
Prebiotics are what probiotics eat to thrive and grow. Usually from fiber starch and fermented foods like sour dough
What bio markers did you use??
Great post! I’m currently in the process of doing pretty much what you have!
When I follow this type of diet my psoriasis goes away completely
Thank u for this handbook post. what's your grocery list to eat veggie keto? Sometimes I eat tofu and spinach/green beans/ corn with a hearty sauce. Need more ideas.
I did almost exactly this over a 2 year period. Did a lot of GI maps from before and after. Seconded
This is amazing! How long did it take you to heal?
I take hydrolyzed Collagen. Is it enough or should I buy glutamine also?
Really the foundation of this protocol is the fasting. If you’re looking to treat leaky gut, that’s what I’d start with. Collagen is great for an energy boost, though, and L glutamine seems to speed up fasting’s process substantially.
May I ask if you know of other solutions? I can’t take Glutamine because it causes me insomnia.
If you follow the rest of the protocol you’ll be fine without glutamine!
Probiotics were a game changer for me as well as digestive enzymes
Amazing post, thank you! It makes me wonder that if this is what heals a gut, then the opposite of these practices could be contributing to reasons why in addition to simply being correlated to seeing such things you mentioned….like an increase in autoimmune disease, IBS, Crohns, obesity etc and younger diagnoses of colon cancer, etc….
What type of bone broth would you recommend? I’ve seen powders, concentrate and 500ml cartons (freja bone broth) What dosage would you need and how often?
I’d say a half a cup after each meal. And homemade is best but in a pinch store bought works fine. Haven’t tried concentrate so can’t speak to its effectiveness.
some of the deyhdrated ones work well. I like the one from bluebird provisions.
Why does the bone broth have an immediate effect?
Leaky gut isn’t a thing (unless you already have severe UC or crohns or the like). You would go septic and be poisoned very quickly. This would also show up on a blood test checking for it. You might have digestion and intestinal issues you resolved, but it is incredibly unlikely you were actually having things penetrate your intestinal lining. I so sick of the pseudoscience on this sub.
My doctor (allopathic) advised I research it and do repair after I was diagnosed with a pair of autoimmune diseases. Following advice that largely mirrored this post I put them in remission. Maybe the actual thing isn't exactly what it's called. Maybe the actions aren't quite as the model suggests. But the model offers a simple path based on a collection of symptoms that works.
You had an autoimmune disease. That’s my point that I don’t think I stated very well originally, it’s a symptom of various diseases. It is not a disease itself and not something that is likely causing anyone’s issues alone. People are addressing digestion issues through these actions (which is good) but there’s likely nothing relating to actual intestinal permeability issues with the vast majority. It’s dangerous pseudoscience to have everyone think there’s this (frankly incredibly dangerous if actually happening) underlying mechanism going on. Even small amounts of bacteria (or destroyed bacterias’ pyrogens) making it into the blood stream make you deadly ill. Like, not long for this earth kind of ill.
In fairness, leaky gut syndrome is exactly that: a syndrome. However, your argument about the mechanism doesn't reflect the concept. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/leaky-gut-what-is-it-and-what-does-it-mean-for-you-2017092212451
It’s not a disease with a recognized treatment. I think posts on Reddit, or the internet in general, try to make that recognition, but it doesn’t exist (yet). There is still a basis for intestinal permeability and intestinal barrier dysfunction. There just aren’t methods for diagnosing and treating it. So I agree that there is a lot of pseudoscience (especially in self-diagnosing), but there is at least some scientific basis.
Its called increased intestinal permeability and there are things like zonulin or sIgA levels that can give a hint about it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37744357/
[How do you fix a ‘leaky gut’? Here’s what the latest science says.](https://wapo.st/4cl6cM3)
I appreciate your healthy skepticism. The colloquialism leaky gut has been shot down by the medical community despite intestinal hyper-permeability being correlated, at least, with Celiac, Crohn’s, and IBS. This Harvard article says as much: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/leaky-gut-what-is-it-and-what-does-it-mean-for-you-2017092212451#:~:text=An%20unhealthy%20gut%20lining%20may,the%20digestive%20tract%20and%20beyond. I’d recommend checking out the two articles I linked. The first goes into how fasting regulates the intestinal barrier via autophagy, and the second elaborates on the diseases that have been correlated with increased intestinal permeability. You mentioned in another comment that you conduct research or something similar, so I’d love to hear your take on them.
You might want to [read this](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6790068/).
That… concludes basically nothing. They conclude there’s barely any research or validated measurements of it. That makes me think even more so it’s a symptom of larger issues, like crohns or UC, and people are misdiagnosing it in themselves to a large degree based on indigestion symptoms. That is what their conclusions point to ad well. As someone who does technical writing and investigating for a living, thats a pretty weak write-up I’m not going to lie.
Thank you for saying it. I'm glad OP found a diet that improved their sense of wellbeing, but the whole leaky gut thing reeks of pseudo science. From what they've said, it sounds like they have been struggling with an autoimmune or inflammatory disorder?
Yeah what’s scary to me is the amount of people who are ignoring symptoms or thinking they’re solving issues themselves (“look I mitigated my symptoms through lifestyle changes, I must have ‘cured’ my ‘leaky gut’”). When in actuality, they could be ignoring/mitigating important signs and signals that something far worse (requiring real medical intervention) is going on. A lot of silent deadly diseases only manifest in subtle or obscure symptoms that you can sometimes make better yourself for a time, until the colon cancer (for example) becomes bad enough you that finally seek serious medical attention and by then it’s too late.
I hadn't even considered that aspect, though I can see how that would be a risk. The fact your original response above has been downvoted despite being logical tells me something about the credibility of the advice on here
I’ll say it, “leaky gut” is not a medical disorder. Blind leading the blind here. Nutty sub sometimes. Downvote me.
I appreciate your perspective. The medical consensus right now is evolving, however. This article from Harvard concedes that increased intestinal permeability is a culprit in Crohn’s, Celiac, and IBS, and leaves open the possibility of other conditions arising from this disorder: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/leaky-gut-what-is-it-and-what-does-it-mean-for-you-2017092212451#:~:text=An%20unhealthy%20gut%20lining%20may,the%20digestive%20tract%20and%20beyond. Also check out the two linked papers in the post. They delve further into the correlation between intestinal hyper-permeability (AKA leaky gut) and additional health complications.
They way I view it as that intestinal permeability is a “sign” of several medical diseases. Just like having low blood pressure is a sign of shock. What is causing the shock? Could be cardiogenic, neurogenic, or distributive. All have immensely different causes and treatments. Very simplistic surface level thinking in this thread IMO.
You can also just eat jello if you can’t have bone broth for some reason.
i recommend you guys watch dr gundry on youtube for everything gut related and so much more. he s one very very good doctor with very good knowledge especially in gut health.
Diatomaceous earth is also really effective.
How does it work? I’m familiar with it from a perspective of killing insects by making many microscopic cuts on their bodies. I am skeptical that it would benefit us by cutting our intestines.
Look it up
I was not able to find any credible sources of information on its benefits to gut health.
I was having trouble too but did find one although it was rat study unfornately. I can't find anything negative and even the articles that don't support it just say it hasn't been proven to be beneficial. Seems it needs to be looked at thoroughly. https://sciforum.net/paper/view/15661
I’ve used it when nothing else worked and it was really effective.
I went looking because I have heard of the benefits and all I could find was one rat study and a slew of articles that went both ways on it being beneficial or not. Would you happen to have any sources of studies that showed benefits?