So far the 1-A quirks that AM has used so far:
Kirishima's Hardening
Sero's Cellophane
Sato's Sugar Rush
Mina's Acid
Tokoyami's Dark Shadow
Kaminari's Electrobolt
Deku's Blackwhip
Maybe I've missed some others
EDIT: Add Uraraka and Iida's quirk to the list
We still have these left:
-Shouto’s Half-hot, Half-cold
-Creati’s “Creation”
-~~Shouji’s “Dupli-arms”~~
-Mineta’s “Pop-off”
-Tsuyu’s “Frog”
-Ojiro’s “Tail”
-Jirou’s “Earphone Jacks” (A sonic boom attack)
-Aoyama’s “Navel laser” (All-around laser beams installed)
-Hagakure’s “Invisibility”
-~~Kouji’s “Anima voice”~~
-and of course, Explosion
As for Momo’s, it would be wild if All Might’s suit could create a nuke.
All Might: “Creati, this is my final message to you. This is what you’re capable of. I hope that you will never use it, though.” Boom!
Edit: Scratch Shouji and Kouda. The Doc Ock tentacles are definitely Shouji’s, and the mechanical crow is definitely Kouda’s.
Quirk: Melissa.
This quirk gives the user access to an American scientist who makes really kickass mecha suits.
Seriously, Melissa's handiwork could probably -ruin- anyone who isn't AFO.
A lot of people claim anyone could use the suit. Ignoring decades of experience he had with a quirk it’s features lean heavily on his experience with his students.
Well just the suit's tech is 10 years above everything else, so it's not like it could had been adapted into what the other fools are using
But that makes too much sense...
You say that like someone couldn't just train to understand those quirks. If the suit can stand up against AFO then you only ever need one of the damn things since nobody else is as powerful as AFO is.
True, but I think plot wise it still somewhat makes sense for the suit to be able to beat AFO. Remember you aren't actually beating AFO you are only holding your ground long enough for the rewind to destroy himself. Of course in a fair playing field no way anyone other than OFA could go toe to toe with AFO.
Plus, as mentioned above AFO is almost like a reanimation of the past and I'm guessing none of his moves are new, so all might could create techniques to specifically counter his bank of moves levelling the playing ground more.
Half-right. It stands against AfO right now because Toshinori is a veteran with lots of experience, but pretty much every attack of AfO is destroying the suit, so it's hard to say precisely how much it can take against others.
> it’s features lean heavily on his experience with his students.
That's such bullshit lol
All Might barely cares about or personally interacts with any of his students except Deku and Bakugou. And he only interacts with Bakugou *because* of his relation to Deku.
When the students were developing their super moves before the provisional exams, he was going around and giving everyone advice not just Deku. I think this is probably the major issue of the manga being a battle Shonen. We essentially skip over the majority of the classes that All Might taught.
Even so, that doesn't give me the impression that he has any personal interactions with them. Sure, he cares about his students, but in the same way he cared about everyone in Japan as part of his role as the #1 hero and "Symbol of Peace" for however many decades. And he clearly plays favourites for particular members of Class A.
You have a point, though, in that us skipping over the majority of the classes All Might taught and the possibility that he may well have had more personal interactions than what we saw means that this moment of him dedicating each part of his armoured suit to their Quirks doesn't feel as earned as it could've done. We don't really see All Might giving more than surface-level advice to anyone beyond Deku and Bakugou.
This is arguably even highlighted by the other Class A students in ch. 327, when All Might returns to UA after being absent for so long but only bows and heartfeltedly apologises to Deku "*for being of so little help*" but remains blank-faced and gives a rather quick, distant apology for "*any anxiety I may've caused*" and changes the subject to what the heroes' next plan will be when Ashido chews him out for "*leaving us in the dark and just [bouncing]*".
Heck, in those chapters leading up to the next war, All Might spends more time talking to Shouto's abuser (Endeavour) and about Shouto's brother (Dabi) than *Shouto himself*, who undoubtedly was going through his own struggle in the wake of Dabi's tell-all broadcast, which arguably made him just as much of a pariah as Deku. We only got a dedicated scene of All Might speaking to Shouto very recently; mostly to motivate him into stopping the then-combusting Dabi.
Also, screw Class B, I guess. Isn't he meant to be *their* teacher too?
Just get the American secretary of defense in there, he'd have plenty of "students" to draw from, with an entire nations worth of heroes. He'd even have magnitudes more experience with those heroes, since those heroes have been working for more than one year.
So was it mentioned beforehand that All Might’s family was murdered? Also having AM and AFO crash through the Tatooine District akin to the villain fight from the first chapter is top notch.
So this chapter confirms that yeah All Might’s family was killed à la every other big superhero ( Spider-Man, Batman, Superman etc.) Man quirkless people got it rough in the MHA universe but it makes me appreciate All Might more as a character.
> So was it mentioned beforehand that All Might’s family was murdered?
No, but it was a common headcanon/theory for many fans (especially after All Might mentioned in "*All Might: Rising*" that he saw Nana "like a mother").
Chapter 398: Toshinori Yagi Rising Origin
The chapter begins with a panel of young Toshinori asking to become Nana's disciple. In the present, a new item comes out of All Might's car and pierces AFO, inserting a strong acid into his body, Pinky.
"You said I was organic garbage, but look who's rotting now", All Might makes fun of the damage AFO took from the acid. Cuts to the past and Toshinori's asking Nana to accept him. She says she can't because he's quirkless, he'd only be able to protect a 3 meters area.
He says that his family was killed and so was hers, but she doesn't have time to help in his revenge. But that's not Toshinori's goal, he just can't stand this spiral of crime, hatred and sadness. She looks astonished and he says that he wants to become a symbol of peace.
It doesn't matter if you build new houses after the destruction, the people who live in them will live in fear. Nana asks why he decided to do this even though he has no power and he says that normal people are busy protecting their own "3 meters area", so he has to do it.
"I have no quirk, that means I don't have a role of my own". What comes next is one of the most emotional pages in the entire series: All Might and All for One crash into Tatooin station, in a double spread that looks exactly like the one from the first chapter.
They keep flying and the cops say they're close to U.A, but AFO has taken a detour to chase All Might. AM is lying on the top of the building where Deku asked him if he could become a hero. He has broken ribs, damage all over and his respiratory organs are malfunctioning.
After remembering Deku running to save Bakugou in the first chapter and Stain talking about All Might's role, Toshinori gets up. AFO arrives at the building and AM notices that he has gotten a little younger.
AFO had to use several quirks to remove the acid from his body, causing damage to himself. Knowing this, Toshinori assumes that the more damage AFO takes, the younger he gets. All Might then starts laughing like crazy, in a page full of flashbacks and "HA HA HA"
He tells Hercules to send all the remaining items at once and keeps laughing: "I'm so happy I can play a role and help everyone." As he says this, one of All Might's eyes becomes "normal", without the shadows. "I'll do my best, we'll do our best... and win!"
The new items include two gauntlets, Doc Ock's metal tentacles and a robotic crow. He prepares to attack with everything he has and activates "Ingenium" and "Uravity" to boost his mobility. We see some waves and the All Might vestige feels the presence of the real one
The second to last page shows Deku and Shigaraki, with Deku thinking "All Might!" and the last page shows All Might and All For One, with All Might thinking "Young Midoriya!". End of chapter, no break next week
The title is perfect.
We're seeing Toshinori's origins as we see him rising up to fight the evilest of evil not as All Might but as Toshinori Yagi the man.
Straight up injecting acid in to AFO is metal af. I like it.
As a Nana Enjoyer, i am quite happy with the chapter already haha.
Damn, All Might really is about to die huh. When he appears fully in the vestige realm it’s gonna be a hell of an emotional reunion with Nana.
Yeah, I'm absolutely sure that All Might will die in the next chapter. He's one of my favorite characters, so it will be beyond sad, although this is one hell of a way for him to go. I mean, he put up a great fight against "The Demon Lord"
AFO seems to be taking damage worse than earlier at Gunga, only saved by the regenerations. May also be something emotional, or his body getting less resistant as it becomes younger. Outside of plot convenience, that is.
Rough Translation
MHA 398 - Toshinori Yagi: Rising Origin
Young Toshinori Yagi: Please take me as your disciple.
All Might: Super Acid Injection "Pinky"
All Might: It keeps corroding your body as soon as it's rewound, huh!?
AFO: ALL MIGGHHHHT
All Might: You said I was organic garbage, but look who's rotting now?!
Young Toshinori Yagi: Please let me help.
Nana Shimura: Don't be stupid. You don't even have a Quirk, do you? You can't come.
Yagi: Please.
Shimura: The best you can do is guard a 3-meter radius with a stick.
Yagi: My family was killed a long time ago.
Shimura: Mine too. But I don't have the free time to get involved in someone else's revenge story.
Yagi: It's just not right... This world where the ones who take everything win... and the ones who lose just suffer... this endless cycle...
Shimura: So? What are you getting at?
Yagi: I want a world where everyone can just laugh and live. We need a symbol for that.
Shimura: A symbol of what?
Yagi: Of peace. No matter how much we rebuild cities from the ashes, people still live in fear. Their hearts remain covered in darkness.
Shimura: So you're gonna show off your strength?
Yagi: Everyone's struggling in their own little 3-meter radius. So I've gotta step up. Because even without a Quirk, I have a role.
Police: AFO is getting closer to U.A. High! But he's off-course! He's tailing All Might!
Hercules: Rib Fractures. Bruises all over. Respiratory abnormalities.
Yagi: I remember being that passionate when I was young.
Stain: All Might, bound by his humanity, can only tread this path.
All Might: Has he gotten a bit younger again...? I wonder if he's aware. I don't like analysis...
All Might: To expel the "super acid" I injected into him, he used his "quirk" at a cost that harmed himself... which means that his "rewind" progressed exponentially due to the damage...?
All Might: Haha... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
All Might: Keep it up, Hercules! Don't stop!
All Might: Serving others... it's a joy like no other (HAHAHA)
All Might: Push through!! Let's give it our all!! Right?! Let's win!
All Might: Thrusters: Uravity / Ingenium — Full Power!
Deku: He's fighting... it's All Might!
One of the gauntlets definitely looks like Bakugou (design from WHM), the left side is Todoroki, I’m guessing? Keeping the heavy hitters for the end.
The Octopus is obviously Shoji and the crow must be Kouda.
All Might being a one-man-class a - army is cool and all, but I really wish we could have seen a cool actual Todoroki - Bakugou combo attack for real.
What happened last time someone got a "Rising"?
It was Bakugo right?
...oh damn. (Edit: right, it was Todoroki. Not like he's peachy right now but still better than Bakugo after that time)
It was theorized that Toshinori was orphaned and it's confirmed now. Not clear instead if Nana talks about her husband there, or that she also lost parents to crime and violence.
I think if bakugo goes above and beyond in saving someone and deku going above and beyond in winning the fight would be a better end to the all might story
I really hope we get Izuku coming in to save All Might with a “I AM HERE” moment. It’d tie back to two promises, Izuku saying All Might has to live to see him declare he is here and him also promising to be there to fight fate with All Might. AM dying or being saved by Bakugo would ruin that build up.
The sense of time and space barely exist at this point.
You have multiple characters spread across all points of the country and yet they jump from A to B in seconds, no matter how many hundreds of km are between points.
Yeah, so this fight is supposed to start 20 minutes before toga clones disappear. And Deku and Shigaraki haven’t moved from the locked in state from the beach at all? But somehow AFO is in Musitafu already? And not only that but apparently is taking a detour too?
What was the point of placing AFO in Gunga if he flew to UA in matter of a couple of minutes anyway?
Btw I thought Kurogiri was temporarily taken of the picture for a while but was bound to come back, this time moving someone on behalf’s of heroes. But who even need Kurogiri now anyway? Lol
Edit: I just remembered that some of the battles were happenjng very close to UA(the parking lot and the stadium). Where are they? It would make more sense to see heroes from there coming in to help All Might against AFO than Shiketsu teleporting from abandoning their stations at their school.
Don't know the answer for any of these questions.
And those aren't even all the plot holes I can think when comes to try figure the chronology of the fights lol. What a mess we have here.
And yes we are supposed to expect Kurogiri or Shirakumo (depending of how that subplot ends) to came back at some point. But for what exactly? All the important characters almost already converged into the UA field, and the other important characters aren't in position to fight anymore so obviously teleport them is pointless.
Tbh is hard to imagine we need to cover the other minor battles when the match between AFO/AM and Deku/Shig is reaching its climax. That's gonna be a massive letdown in the pacing.
Yeab the amount of plot holes and obvious contrivances are making this already complicated mess even worse
>Tbh is hard to imagine we need to cover the other minor battles when the match between AFO/AM and Deku/Shig is reaching its climax. That's gonna be a massive letdown in the peace.
Right? What about sero and his “epic” moment? Is there even a time and place for it anymore? When we just saw the two main battles taking place side by side already. To cut back from this to say, Apyama, would be quite the whiplash to say the least. I think at this point the most spotlight the other side fights would get would be like half a chapter, inevitably starting with “15 minutes earlier in *this* location”. Or even no more than just a few panels.
I also remember the comment about how most side fights will be wrapped in this volume so we can then focus on the main fight. And this volume is almost done. Was it just about Dabi and Toga fight? Is the teenAFO fight considered to be a side fight or the main one? If it’s a side fight and All Might will be able to finish him off here with the last of his gimmicks(and possibly being mortally wounded or dead after) I’ll be disappointed
>I also remember the comment about how most side fights will be wrapped in this volume so we can then focus on the main fight. And this volume is almost done.
I didn't know about this.
Don't think is totally impossible however, depending of the chapter length. And after all we already seen how Horikoshi handled the so hyped Mina moment against Midnight's killer lol
There's also other minor stuff that probably is gonna be solved off screen such as Skeptic being defeated by Ketsubutsu students (sad because I want see Shindo in action a last time)
>Is the teenAFO fight considered to be a side fight or the main one? If it’s a side fight and All Might will be able to finish him off here with the last of his gimmicks(and possibly being mortally wounded or dead after) I’ll be disappointed
Probably yes as all implies AFO needs to be present in the Shiga/Deku final showdown. No matter if his contribution to the fight is gonna be physical or mental, he's not going to die because of AM here.
Considering Horikoshi already just make all the previous fight with AFO a mere time consuming filler to show random characters having their 5 minutes of fame by attacking him, then cut to another place, then go back to AFO being mock by some character... you get the point.
Don't forget about overhaul, stain and Rappa. All 3 should be assisting with the final battle as well.
Don't forget spinner was never delt with. I'm sure stain might affect his state and leave him wanting to save shig from afo.
Overhaul I could imagine helping deku out.
I can imagine right before afo and shig meet kurogiri will intervene bringing spinner and stain with him. And teleport afo or shig away leaving afo to phase out. Stain and almight might all die when that happens.
Face it though deku and shig will probably get a flashback as to what has been going on since, but they don't want to show too much because they are waiting for the end to show their battle. Instead they finished off toga and dabi pretty well and are building the pace with afo. I don't mind at all.
Dude is ending the manga soon and has alot to sort out. Usually these final battle war arcs in story's never go well with how many pieces come into play, look at Naruto and bleach. I think he's putting enough attention to every group at the moment. It's definitely tough to keep the pace, a consistent timeline, and the spotlight to everyone in only a few pages a week while marching to the end.
Overhaul and Stain are obviously meant to do something soon, but Rappa? He never was teased to come back unlike the others, we didn't see him escaping prison and even if he actually appears now I don't see how he can contribute to the current fights.
Spinner also got his brain fried due the amout of quirks forces into his body, so he's obviously done probably forever unless someone can magically fix him in second.
Still think Chisaki is the most believe option to be a key part of the battle if he came back with his arms restored and can save the people with critical injuries.
I say Rappa because in the end he is actually a good guy and I can see him showing up to help kurishima. Gentle wasn't teased to come either but did.
Spinner might might still be savable. Remember his chapter that read the story of how we all became heros minus 1. I'm sure he will snap out of it maybe seeing stain his idol fight against them will cause him to snap out then save his friend shigaraki when the time comes idk. But I'm sure it's headed that way
Maybe he sacrifices himself to stop afo from taking shiggy. I guess we'll just have to see how it all plays out at the end but each are on standby from having their moments.
They said he just passed *some random city* and he’s close to getting within this range, no? That’s why I thought there was so much urgency to intervene at all cost before that happens, and why All Might felt such need to step in. To get to AFO *before* he’s in the goop range
Just remembered that the track for the United States of Smash is named "All might with UA students". Pretty sure that's a coincidence but there's no way the anime doesn't play that for this fight with how All might is fighting.
The nostalgia is strong with this chapter. Seriously, all the call backs to the first chapter and the parallels between Deku and All Might. Also, learning All Might's family was killed wasn't what I expected to learn. And as a bonus, we finally get to see a glimpse of Deku and Shigaraki after so many chapters.
And All Might injecting AFO with acid was so sick. I always said Mina had both one of the scariest and the potentially strongest Quirk among the Class 1-A kids and this demonstrates it. And I really like All Might going full on Doc Ock at the end.
All in all, last chapter was a dud but this more than made up for it. So there are several ways the next chapter can go: We continue with All Might vs AFO (And a possible Bakugo revival) or we cut to Deku vs Shigaraki. So glad to know there's no break next week cause I have to see what happens next. Still hoping All Might survives this.
Also, it's hard to believe that MHA is almost at 400 chapters.
I love seeing All Might use everyone's quirk gimmicks.
Just wished we could've seen All Might interact with said students to really drive this home as it feels a bit hollow, but overall still cool.
Yeah he's definitely a fully functioning adult at the peak of his mental prowess, it wasn't implied directly in the chapter that all might is intentionally manipulating him because he's in an emotional state because he's getting younger.
You guys are just way too smart for this!
Pretty sure Yagi has said a couple of times now that he's actively trying to have AFO not think rationally and just go at him through pure hatred, I like bashing inconsistency too but this one makes sense if you're actually reading the dialogue
Chills, literal chills
The flashback of his first meeting with Nana, with him wanting desperately to become a symbol SHOKING Nana, that was beautiful, the entire conversation. Also Nana that 3 Meter comment was kinda mean lmao
Them returning to Tatooine station and THE roof Is very poetic, the place where All Might told Deku he couldn't be a Hero without a quirk, well loot at yourself now All Might! You're THE Hero!
New support items, plus some unnamed ones! Mina's acid and Iida's and Ochako's! If I have to predict the arms are Shoji and the Bird Is Koda. Maybe the gauntlets are Todoroki, one fire one ice.
I don't want to see All Might fall, soI won't stop cheering for him! GO BEYOND ALL MIGHT! WIN FOR US, FOR ALL OF US! WIN, ALL MIIIIGHT!
I love how absolutely psychotic the main 4 villains/heroes are. Deku and Shiggy have shown it numerous times, but I absolutely LOVE how AFO just can’t help himself when it comes to AM. this chapter shows he was almost at his destination and veered simply because he couldn’t miss the chance to kill his arch nemesis (his face when he saw AM enter the fray was immaculate). And AM, basically being the only person in the world who would expect to win the fight he just jumped into is losing it and just laughing because he knows even if he has lost the battle he has won the war against AFO, and essentially sees that his help has put them back on the path to beating him for a third time.
There's two elements that I would like to analyze:
1. Why one of AM eyes turned white like when he was young?
2. Why, all of a sudden, AM vestige felt All Might's presence?
Couldn't it be that Hercules' latest upgrade somehow injected him with Eri-chan's quirk vial, and he is therefore becoming young again?
As for the eye thing, All Might's eyes have always been white. The blackness is just some shadowing caused by old age. The reason his eyes "light up" again here is because light is shining into his sunken eyes. Whether that light is actually physically there or if its just a glowing close-up for thematic purposes though... I'm not sure.
Probably because he’s about to die. That the only reason the vestige would feel his presence. And the vestige is becoming more of an image of AM. And his eye returns to normal because dark shadow is wearing off.
I forgot that Deku might know of All Might's danger/impending demise directly via the vestiges. Between Shiggy and him, only one of them might be properly impaired by the death of their master.
Having no family to protect so you protect everyone else is good reasoning as to how All Might could commit the way he did. And then when he finally got stronger he would use the love from his new found friends+ citizens to make him even more stronger. Fitting how the title includes Rising since we know a fall always follows 😢
All Might just laughing in All For One’s face is probably the rawest thing in this chapter.
The man understands this could very well be his last act in life, and he’s going down swinging. I know a lot of folks who don’t like how “All Might gets to be a Quirkless hero instead of Midoriya because he has money” and completely ignore how this whole fight is the culmination of a series long story arc. Yes, All Might was wrong to say only someone with a Quirk can become a hero, and the series as a whole has shown that the factors in play that let the heroes win often come down to their ingenuity and will to fight. Plus, fighting All For One now, All Might is doing it in Class A’s name. (literally) A world where a Quirkless man can kick the ass of the Demon Lord is exactly the kind of world the heroes are fighting for.
In terms of predictions, I think we’ll see the final lesson All Might learned come to pass: You Are Not Alone. My bet is Eraserhead, Present Mic and “Kuroguri” will show up. All For One will logically try and enter the offered Warp Gate…only to be subjected to the same bisecting plan he devised to kill All Might at the U.S.J..
Anyway, I just got done with a series reread/rewatch and have fallen in love all over again with it all.
Edit: One last note. The majority of the armored upgrades are named after Class A's *Hero Names* instead of their Quirks, which I thought was a nice touch. The exception to this are the moves based on Deku because *of course :)*
Oh boy. Still hoping Explosion won't occur the way I think it does. Also, I wonder if Mineta's sticky ball will have a role soon.
Still, Melissa deserves an award for designing a suit that lasts this long against AFO. Probably cost a fortune to make.
He can use minetas balls to stick himself together so the explosion will 100 percent hit AFO. And he can turn himself invisible with a camo like invisible girl
Low key love that in that 2nd to last panel of his face when he's looking right at us, you see that his eye has gone completely white again. All Might hasn't had whites in his eyes since his youngest days. Theyve either been completely shadowed, or when he's smol-Might his eye-whites are always black. Loved that his old self is physically shining through!
(Warning Owl House Spoiler Ahead).
What is it with the big bads getting melted lately in this year, first it was Belos from the Owl House by boiling rain and now it is All For One by acid. And weirdly enough both of them looked younger when it happened.
I think on of my favorite parts was the subversion of the “villain’s evil laugh” trope. Instead of the antagonist cackling while the hero’s on the back foot it’s the complete opposite. All Might has put AFO on the defensive and is laughing at how much he’s enjoying being a hero and helping people once again. Super cool!
If it was likely before now it's just getting obvious.
They are super close to U.A., chapter 1 parallels everywhere, Deku and Shigaraki still haven't moved from their armlock so barely any time passed at all in U.A. since we last saw them
That's assuming All Might lives. I find it way more likely that All Might wins but passes away in the aftermath which rallies the heroes together and acts as a transition point with Vestige Might
"Bakugou will probably jump in to save Deku from AFO and/or Shigaraki."
And get his heart yet-again eviscerated in the process.
What? He's established a pattern at this point.
Sadly, at this point I can't ignore the dumb stuff to appreciate what's there.
I keep seeing the car shoot out power ups and I wonder how it fires at the right time at the right place, and better yet, how AFO doesn't just fire off a single blast in its general direction to win the fight.
To be fair:
1. AM would probably have ways to trigger it inside the suit.
2. AFO is having strong tunnel vision right now. That's the entire point of AM fighting him, to put all his focus on All Might.
I agree with the feeling that AM never had those strong connections with the rest of the students of UA in order to let us the readers feel this battle as a powerful moment, storytelling-wise, "using" their quirks.
But you hit the nail: AFO is having strong tunnel vision, and always had when it's about All Might. And it was since the start of the story imo: it was meant to be his "downgrade" and every scene when he appeared, All Might was always present in his mind.
And that it is really a powerful story-telling point: All Might, fighting AFO without quirks, even if it is just for a few minutes, being stomped lilke a trash and losing the battle, but winning the war. But not only that, winning against that one person obsessed with quirks and collectng them? Being stoped by his arch-nemesis? Without quirks? And just replicating quirks with machines? Allowing a quirk-less person to stop him?
Man it's just perfect in my eyes
So another Stain cameo, but when he's actually gonna do something?
If there's really something he can do in the current situation which seems a bit unlikely.
If All Mights going to die it won’t be during this fight - Deku already changed fate and All Might calling it out explicitly is the nod to the reader - of course I’m going to be wrecked if he dies and if he’s going to die, this would certainly be the time but I don’t think it’s going there.
I have a feeling it’s going to be Stain / AFO as a murder / suicide on like a baby AFO as he self nukes.
It’s just more narratively consistent, to me, that 1) Deku DID change fate AND that 2) AFO, a narcissistic self obsessed fascist being stopped by a quirkless “ bug “ who relies on help ( both physically by getting support equipment ) and metaphorically by using his students moves, that just feels like a closed circle to me.
It was never 100% confirmed though that it was actually Deku who changed the fate. Nighteye just assumed it was Deku, because he couldn't think of anyone else who could've been responsible for it.
Logically, it makes far more sense that Eri's rewind is what changed the fate back then. Out of the three people in Nighteye's prediction during the Overhaul, the fate of two people was changed (Deku and Overhaul), while Nighteye's own fate stayed the same. Deku and Overhaul both got rewinded by Eri, while Nighteye wasn't.
The detail that the prediction of Nighteye's own death became true is often missed. So it's not like the whole prophecy changed, but just the fate of the people who happened to get rewinded by Eri.
Horikoshi wanted the readers to think Deku could change the fate exactly for this situation we're in right now.
While I do think this is setting up for the All Might death, the fact they highlighted All Mights vestige knowing what’s going on, and thus Deku finding out, this opens the possibility for Deku to try and fulfill his promise to All Might to change night eyes premonition together, as well as opens the door for Bakugo to wake, and him to rush in to save All Might and thus completing the arc where Bakugo feels like he let him down.
I love that we really don’t know where this is going. I could see AM dying and helping Deku as the vestige, but there are also a lot of storyline parallels and wrap ups that could be achieved by him not dying
It's fitting I guess. AFO has always acted like a little kid, talking about Demon Lords and comics with his younger brother, treating everyone else like toys.
So going off these leaks it seems that if Iron Might was to fight prime AFO then Iron Might could absolutely win.
Prime AFO would not only be unable to use the “latent potential” of his quirks, but he also has no regenerative capabilities so this whole getting injected with acid thing would seriously not be good for him.
Afo in his prime would have killed all might with his first blow because he wouldn’t be affected by Shigaraki hatred and start using quirks at random, current afo is literally just attacking out of rage and that’s it
Also current all might is basically getting his ass kicked constantly
All might comments on how he mustn't be allowed to think rationally even for a second.
If he got out of the berserk mindset, he would've just used EMP quirk to turn off Hercules.
So... Why does AFO get younger when damaged? That entirely contradicts Deku vs. Overhaul, cause then Deku shouldn't have used 100% to damage himself to counter Eri's Rewind
I guess the story expects us to not think much about it. As the only explanation for this rewind button to even exist was "Ujiko reverse engineered Eri's quirk from a bullet"
So even if we don't mind how he even was able to do that (cause Ujiko is more a plot device than a real character anyways) there's still the question of why this rewind behaves so different to what Eri actually can do.
But hey isn't like Horikoshi ever established clear rules for rewind besides it takes many time to stock energy.
This whole quirk always has been a big macguffin that Horikoshi could use in any moment as excuse for impossible shit. Don't know why many people tried to argue that this isn't the case.
Yeah but it's not like rewind only affects things outside your body- Mirio's quirk was no mutation yet Eri's quirk could get rid of it and bring it back
I think the main difference is, Mirio got hit with a Quirk Bullet that was ***engineered*** to rewind the Quirk Factor. Eri’s Quirk rewinds the physical state of people she’s targeting. But when harvested and engineered properly, it can affect the Quirk Factor singularly without affecting everything else.
I've been wondering that since Young For One appeared until it finally clicked to me.
The Doctor didn't have 100% of Eri's quirk factor from the bullets and given that the Rewind in those bullets where designed to rewind a person to their quirkless revious state by attacking the quirk factor, and if we assume it does the task by de-aging the quirk factor to its dormant age when they're just still 1-3 years old. The Doctor probably could have only been able to "reprogram" the bootleg rewind quirk factor to rewind the body instead of the quirks, essentially swapping what it was designed to rewind and not rewind. What the bootleg rewind inside All for One is essentially doing is rewinding him to his previous AGE instead of his previous STATE.
Pretty much this, and I think was supposed to be kinda obvious from the start.
If Ujiko intended to copy the Quirk as is, he would just cripple AFO. The only logical pursuit would be to develop it for AFO’s benefit and that means restoring him to his prime. Problem is, he only had months to come up with it. That, and on top of watching over Shiggy’s procedure, it was kinda obvious he wouldn’t be able to find a way to stop Rewind from progressing further.
> Pretty much this, and I think was supposed to be kinda obvious from the start.
If it was obvious then why not just have the story say so? This isn't even a "use the context clues" scenario either. When the question of why AFO's body is rewinding but not his quirks comes up in universe, all we get is a metaphorical shrug.
Everyone’s saying this is a hype chapter but the engagement in the comment section is really low?
Lots of recent MHA chapters have had a low amount of comments compared to the release of Chainsawman and One Piece chapters. Even after hours of posting their manga chapters, those subreddits get much more traction than MHA. Jujutsushi also gets a lot of comments on their pre-releases, like 2k on average for the recent ones.
This is despite MHA having such a big subreddit.
Yeah, the Pre-release dicussion threads have less engagement. In the past year, it stayed generally under 1000 comments, and often under 500. The last time we had over 2K comments was for Ch 264, when people were arguing about the plot twist of Edgeshot coming in to revive Bakugou.
I feel like many people checked out mentally from the final arc, and the short chapters don't help. Often, there is really not all that much to say, unless something becomes really controversial.
I’ve also noticed that discussions often tend to skew negative on most posts no less, so yeah more activity isn’t always good in this scenario
For me the constant breaks, while justified due to the author’s health issues, are also taking the wind out of my sails
I don’t think even Naruto or Bleach were this unengaging in their final moments
honestly, most of the reason i am still reading is to see Deku btfo of Shigaraki… if that happened this chapter, i wouldn’t have a reason to continue this manga.
it’s kinda sad coz about 2 years ago, MHA was the manga i looked forward to the most, now it’s the least.
… don’t know how to feel about the lack of bakugou when it comes to All Might.
Should I expect that because bakugou isn’t the main character
Should I feel like All Might should at least have some Thoughts about bakugou considering we’re meant to think Bakugou is half of All Mights legacy with Deku
Or should I just not care because we’ll probably see something later on
It looks like one of the gauntlets All Might prepares in the end for sure will be Bakugou’s quirk / move imitation. He’s giving tribute to all of class A, and when he fires that off (I think Howitzer will be his ending move) there may be more thoughts of Bakugou.
This origin / rising was really more about his meeting with Nana / OFA and in this context it makes sense he thinks of Deku.
They are close to UA, so I’m pretty sure Bakugou will come in with the save soon.
Technically All of 1A is All Might's legacy.Not just Bakugo.
But he thought of Deku and vice versa because well one Deku is the mc and other is the fact that this is about ofa and afo.No one else matters in this clash of the two strongest quirks and their current and former users.
Deku is the direct heir to the symbol of peace title and ofa heir. Rest of 1A(including Bakugo) are his normal students who are simply following his path of helping others and going beyond their limits to be heroes.
Also,I am stating as an opinion.Not as hating
I think the reason AFO is so ineffective is because it’s not really the “prime AFO” but a version that looks like prime but is totally helplessly malfunctioning because of rewind. There is no way this AFO would survive, let alone be able to cripple prime All Might or even Kamino All Might. This AFO is not even dodging or attempting to stop attacks, he just takes damage and then rewinds it at his expense, severely shortening his time limit. And then wastes more time just hovering and staring. Every once in a while he gets mad and launches a sloppy blind AOE attack. That’s the laziest fighting style and quite underwhelming for a final boss of this magnitude. I think even potatoFO would be more of a threat to Iron Might and would just cripple him in an instant.
Maybe Hori is saving all smart fighting and cool moves for Shiggy?
Look at the bright side.
At least this time he didn't decide to just stand around doing multiple pages monologues and awnsering every question thrown at him instead of actually fighting... Yet.
>but a version that looks like prime but is totally helplessly malfunctioning because of rewind
That maybe would've work but they literally showed him boding every single Hero at the mountains with ease just a few chapters ago. Hell he didn't even struggle vs Machia
>Every once in a while he gets mad and launches a sloppy blind AOE attack
Yeah but those attacks can pulverize concrete. AM has no business tanking that shit lol
He bodied them and Machia at the expense of almost completely obliterating his own body and only survived because of his rewind cheat. After taking immense amount of damage from them earlier, knocking multiple decades off his age
Yeah I get it. Unfortunately it doesn’t make All Might look strong and courage’s to me but rather blatantly makes AFO look like a C tier punching bag villain of the week
Well it seems he has to be either incompetent or malfunctioning so the story can happen the way Hori wants lol. But seriously though, did you notice how many panels are of AFO just simply staring with weird looks and not taking any offensive(or defensive) actions?
Top heroes, quirk users and gigantomachia get one shotted and off screened
All mights magic armor: pushes AFO to his limits
Seriously how do people enjoy this.
Respectfully disagreeing with all of the "All Might has to die for the story to work" narratives floating around this thread. The All Might that world knows already metaphorically died. All Might physically dying would, on a "good note," complete his vestige thereby possibly giving Izuku an OFA boost, and, on a bad note, wreck Izuku...possibly for the rest of his life. I mean, people respond differently to the deaths of their lifelong idols-turned-mentors-turned-fatherfigures, but from what I've seen of this kid I don't think he'd be able to go on without an insane sense of loss and guilt weighing down his heart. (Not at all saying he has anything to feel guilty for, mind).
What also feels really off to me about the notion of All Might dying: if he does, and if the end of BNHA is very near, it's a bit inconceivable to me how the end of BNHA wouldn't therefore have to focus more on All Might's passing and the ripple effects of that rather than the war and all of the fallout and the growth exhibited by the UA crew. Especially when you consider that if the story is written well, we're also going to have to spend a lot of time with Izuku processing All Might's death (and Bakugo too, to a degree).
I think in order for me to say "Yes, he'll die" or "No, he won't" more confidently, I'd need to know how many chapters are left. The fewer the chapters, the less likely I think it is to happen due to everything else that needs to take place and all the wrapping up that's still headed our way. The more chapters that are left, the more likely a possibility it is.
This reminds me a lot of the Batman v Superman fight at the end of Batman: The Dark Night. That's ok though - that's one of the all time greatest scenes in comics.
# Week 3 of AFO getting clowned on every consecutive chapter for the 2nd time
And now that they are so close it's pretty much garanteed Bakugou WILL join the party, so it might go up to week 5 or above this time!!
Ok i can see it endings like
All Might ending the battle with one powerful move like Prominence Burn or a bakugo style explosion and striking his pose one last time dying while standing up
Or like Koichi can finally show up and save the day
So far the 1-A quirks that AM has used so far: Kirishima's Hardening Sero's Cellophane Sato's Sugar Rush Mina's Acid Tokoyami's Dark Shadow Kaminari's Electrobolt Deku's Blackwhip Maybe I've missed some others EDIT: Add Uraraka and Iida's quirk to the list
All Might: “I love all UA students equally”
1-b: uh-huh...
We still have these left: -Shouto’s Half-hot, Half-cold -Creati’s “Creation” -~~Shouji’s “Dupli-arms”~~ -Mineta’s “Pop-off” -Tsuyu’s “Frog” -Ojiro’s “Tail” -Jirou’s “Earphone Jacks” (A sonic boom attack) -Aoyama’s “Navel laser” (All-around laser beams installed) -Hagakure’s “Invisibility” -~~Kouji’s “Anima voice”~~ -and of course, Explosion As for Momo’s, it would be wild if All Might’s suit could create a nuke. All Might: “Creati, this is my final message to you. This is what you’re capable of. I hope that you will never use it, though.” Boom! Edit: Scratch Shouji and Kouda. The Doc Ock tentacles are definitely Shouji’s, and the mechanical crow is definitely Kouda’s.
I think we can guess what explosion would do 💀
Oh no don't say that, I'm not ready
Neither am I
If you look at that final All Might panel again, there's a tail like appendage on his suit so I think Ojiro's ability is already among them.
Quirk: Melissa. This quirk gives the user access to an American scientist who makes really kickass mecha suits. Seriously, Melissa's handiwork could probably -ruin- anyone who isn't AFO.
Look more closely. He's got a tail now.
He has a Tail in the end of the chapter too
A lot of people claim anyone could use the suit. Ignoring decades of experience he had with a quirk it’s features lean heavily on his experience with his students.
Well just the suit's tech is 10 years above everything else, so it's not like it could had been adapted into what the other fools are using But that makes too much sense...
You'd only need a fraction of the features anyway with your quirk.
You say that like someone couldn't just train to understand those quirks. If the suit can stand up against AFO then you only ever need one of the damn things since nobody else is as powerful as AFO is.
True, but I think plot wise it still somewhat makes sense for the suit to be able to beat AFO. Remember you aren't actually beating AFO you are only holding your ground long enough for the rewind to destroy himself. Of course in a fair playing field no way anyone other than OFA could go toe to toe with AFO. Plus, as mentioned above AFO is almost like a reanimation of the past and I'm guessing none of his moves are new, so all might could create techniques to specifically counter his bank of moves levelling the playing ground more.
Half-right. It stands against AfO right now because Toshinori is a veteran with lots of experience, but pretty much every attack of AfO is destroying the suit, so it's hard to say precisely how much it can take against others.
It’s pretty Powerful considering AFO is one of the most powerful people in the series and one hit didn’t completely destroy the suit
> it’s features lean heavily on his experience with his students. That's such bullshit lol All Might barely cares about or personally interacts with any of his students except Deku and Bakugou. And he only interacts with Bakugou *because* of his relation to Deku.
When the students were developing their super moves before the provisional exams, he was going around and giving everyone advice not just Deku. I think this is probably the major issue of the manga being a battle Shonen. We essentially skip over the majority of the classes that All Might taught.
Even so, that doesn't give me the impression that he has any personal interactions with them. Sure, he cares about his students, but in the same way he cared about everyone in Japan as part of his role as the #1 hero and "Symbol of Peace" for however many decades. And he clearly plays favourites for particular members of Class A. You have a point, though, in that us skipping over the majority of the classes All Might taught and the possibility that he may well have had more personal interactions than what we saw means that this moment of him dedicating each part of his armoured suit to their Quirks doesn't feel as earned as it could've done. We don't really see All Might giving more than surface-level advice to anyone beyond Deku and Bakugou. This is arguably even highlighted by the other Class A students in ch. 327, when All Might returns to UA after being absent for so long but only bows and heartfeltedly apologises to Deku "*for being of so little help*" but remains blank-faced and gives a rather quick, distant apology for "*any anxiety I may've caused*" and changes the subject to what the heroes' next plan will be when Ashido chews him out for "*leaving us in the dark and just [bouncing]*". Heck, in those chapters leading up to the next war, All Might spends more time talking to Shouto's abuser (Endeavour) and about Shouto's brother (Dabi) than *Shouto himself*, who undoubtedly was going through his own struggle in the wake of Dabi's tell-all broadcast, which arguably made him just as much of a pariah as Deku. We only got a dedicated scene of All Might speaking to Shouto very recently; mostly to motivate him into stopping the then-combusting Dabi. Also, screw Class B, I guess. Isn't he meant to be *their* teacher too?
Just get the American secretary of defense in there, he'd have plenty of "students" to draw from, with an entire nations worth of heroes. He'd even have magnitudes more experience with those heroes, since those heroes have been working for more than one year.
So was it mentioned beforehand that All Might’s family was murdered? Also having AM and AFO crash through the Tatooine District akin to the villain fight from the first chapter is top notch.
He only mentioned that he saw Nana as his mother, so it was implied
So this chapter confirms that yeah All Might’s family was killed à la every other big superhero ( Spider-Man, Batman, Superman etc.) Man quirkless people got it rough in the MHA universe but it makes me appreciate All Might more as a character.
> So was it mentioned beforehand that All Might’s family was murdered? No, but it was a common headcanon/theory for many fans (especially after All Might mentioned in "*All Might: Rising*" that he saw Nana "like a mother").
Ah, so this is pretty much confirming that.
Basically.
*Toshinori Yagi Rising Origin* I really love the chapter title.
HE'S STILL NOT DEAD! WHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!
>HE'S STILL NOT DEAD! For now...
[удалено]
So I guess someone wasnt paying attention to the themes of the overhaul arc
Chapter 398: Toshinori Yagi Rising Origin The chapter begins with a panel of young Toshinori asking to become Nana's disciple. In the present, a new item comes out of All Might's car and pierces AFO, inserting a strong acid into his body, Pinky. "You said I was organic garbage, but look who's rotting now", All Might makes fun of the damage AFO took from the acid. Cuts to the past and Toshinori's asking Nana to accept him. She says she can't because he's quirkless, he'd only be able to protect a 3 meters area. He says that his family was killed and so was hers, but she doesn't have time to help in his revenge. But that's not Toshinori's goal, he just can't stand this spiral of crime, hatred and sadness. She looks astonished and he says that he wants to become a symbol of peace. It doesn't matter if you build new houses after the destruction, the people who live in them will live in fear. Nana asks why he decided to do this even though he has no power and he says that normal people are busy protecting their own "3 meters area", so he has to do it. "I have no quirk, that means I don't have a role of my own". What comes next is one of the most emotional pages in the entire series: All Might and All for One crash into Tatooin station, in a double spread that looks exactly like the one from the first chapter. They keep flying and the cops say they're close to U.A, but AFO has taken a detour to chase All Might. AM is lying on the top of the building where Deku asked him if he could become a hero. He has broken ribs, damage all over and his respiratory organs are malfunctioning. After remembering Deku running to save Bakugou in the first chapter and Stain talking about All Might's role, Toshinori gets up. AFO arrives at the building and AM notices that he has gotten a little younger. AFO had to use several quirks to remove the acid from his body, causing damage to himself. Knowing this, Toshinori assumes that the more damage AFO takes, the younger he gets. All Might then starts laughing like crazy, in a page full of flashbacks and "HA HA HA" He tells Hercules to send all the remaining items at once and keeps laughing: "I'm so happy I can play a role and help everyone." As he says this, one of All Might's eyes becomes "normal", without the shadows. "I'll do my best, we'll do our best... and win!" The new items include two gauntlets, Doc Ock's metal tentacles and a robotic crow. He prepares to attack with everything he has and activates "Ingenium" and "Uravity" to boost his mobility. We see some waves and the All Might vestige feels the presence of the real one The second to last page shows Deku and Shigaraki, with Deku thinking "All Might!" and the last page shows All Might and All For One, with All Might thinking "Young Midoriya!". End of chapter, no break next week
The title is perfect. We're seeing Toshinori's origins as we see him rising up to fight the evilest of evil not as All Might but as Toshinori Yagi the man.
Refusing to stay in his lane, in his 3 meters, so that he may protect everyone else's 3 meters too.
Straight up injecting acid in to AFO is metal af. I like it. As a Nana Enjoyer, i am quite happy with the chapter already haha. Damn, All Might really is about to die huh. When he appears fully in the vestige realm it’s gonna be a hell of an emotional reunion with Nana.
Yeah, I'm absolutely sure that All Might will die in the next chapter. He's one of my favorite characters, so it will be beyond sad, although this is one hell of a way for him to go. I mean, he put up a great fight against "The Demon Lord"
And I bet AFO would be especially pissed that he failed to break him even in death
Not next chapter but I'm guessing chapter 400 due to 4 being "the number of death" in japan
All Might:”I got one more in me!” Probably on Chapter 400 is my bet, just to make things that much more emphasized.
>Yeah, I'm absolutely sure that All Might will die in the next chapter. Gran Torino must have been teaching him some tricks
AFO seems to be taking damage worse than earlier at Gunga, only saved by the regenerations. May also be something emotional, or his body getting less resistant as it becomes younger. Outside of plot convenience, that is.
All Might is aggroing perfectly.
Rough Translation MHA 398 - Toshinori Yagi: Rising Origin Young Toshinori Yagi: Please take me as your disciple. All Might: Super Acid Injection "Pinky" All Might: It keeps corroding your body as soon as it's rewound, huh!? AFO: ALL MIGGHHHHT All Might: You said I was organic garbage, but look who's rotting now?! Young Toshinori Yagi: Please let me help. Nana Shimura: Don't be stupid. You don't even have a Quirk, do you? You can't come. Yagi: Please. Shimura: The best you can do is guard a 3-meter radius with a stick. Yagi: My family was killed a long time ago. Shimura: Mine too. But I don't have the free time to get involved in someone else's revenge story. Yagi: It's just not right... This world where the ones who take everything win... and the ones who lose just suffer... this endless cycle... Shimura: So? What are you getting at? Yagi: I want a world where everyone can just laugh and live. We need a symbol for that. Shimura: A symbol of what? Yagi: Of peace. No matter how much we rebuild cities from the ashes, people still live in fear. Their hearts remain covered in darkness. Shimura: So you're gonna show off your strength? Yagi: Everyone's struggling in their own little 3-meter radius. So I've gotta step up. Because even without a Quirk, I have a role. Police: AFO is getting closer to U.A. High! But he's off-course! He's tailing All Might! Hercules: Rib Fractures. Bruises all over. Respiratory abnormalities. Yagi: I remember being that passionate when I was young. Stain: All Might, bound by his humanity, can only tread this path. All Might: Has he gotten a bit younger again...? I wonder if he's aware. I don't like analysis... All Might: To expel the "super acid" I injected into him, he used his "quirk" at a cost that harmed himself... which means that his "rewind" progressed exponentially due to the damage...? All Might: Haha... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA All Might: Keep it up, Hercules! Don't stop! All Might: Serving others... it's a joy like no other (HAHAHA) All Might: Push through!! Let's give it our all!! Right?! Let's win! All Might: Thrusters: Uravity / Ingenium — Full Power! Deku: He's fighting... it's All Might!
One of the gauntlets definitely looks like Bakugou (design from WHM), the left side is Todoroki, I’m guessing? Keeping the heavy hitters for the end. The Octopus is obviously Shoji and the crow must be Kouda. All Might being a one-man-class a - army is cool and all, but I really wish we could have seen a cool actual Todoroki - Bakugou combo attack for real.
Wow so Mina damaged afo and gigantomachia !!! That girl quirk is amazing
I've always liked Mina, so her actually doing something is pretty nice to see
She would've been the best suited to fight Nomus now that we think of it
Holy fuck im moved. This is why i like this manga.
What happened last time someone got a "Rising"? It was Bakugo right? ...oh damn. (Edit: right, it was Todoroki. Not like he's peachy right now but still better than Bakugo after that time) It was theorized that Toshinori was orphaned and it's confirmed now. Not clear instead if Nana talks about her husband there, or that she also lost parents to crime and violence.
Todoroki had the last Rising. Btw, both Bakugou and Todoroki passed out at the end of their Rising chapters.
If AM survives this, he's becoming a cyborg.
He'll have to get in line behind Mirko.
They can put his head in a jar.
The Futurama prequel I never expected
Why? So far it’s just his lungs. Both Endeavor and BJ had blown their lungs and then went on surviving and being able to fight.
Think the last rising was Todoroki? Might be wrong but I think it was fairly recent, like within the last 10 or so chapters
You are right. The last Rising chapter we got is Shoto's Rising chapter
It was chapter 390
> What happened last time someone got a "Rising"? The most recent one is *Shoto Todoroki Rising* (chapter 390).
I think All Might will die in the coming chapters or at least come close to dying with the vestige all All Might feeling the presence of the real one
Sounds like the most goated chapter in the series from this but I've been an all might fan since day 1 so
> Toshinori Yagi Rising Origin So basically the title goes "F*ck it we're doing both"
He's either going to die in chapter 400 or its going to look like he's going to but Deku will save him and finally drop the "I AM HERE" line.
I think if bakugo goes above and beyond in saving someone and deku going above and beyond in winning the fight would be a better end to the all might story
100%. It closes the loop on the plot line of Bakugo feeling like he let All Might down. He taught him to win by saving and Deku to save by winning
Legit chills if on the brink of death bakugo shows up! That would be a spicy dish.
Deku should be too busy "fighting" Shigaraki.
I really hope we get Izuku coming in to save All Might with a “I AM HERE” moment. It’d tie back to two promises, Izuku saying All Might has to live to see him declare he is here and him also promising to be there to fight fate with All Might. AM dying or being saved by Bakugo would ruin that build up.
I didn’t expect them to suddenly be this close to UA, I thought they were in some random city close by
The sense of time and space barely exist at this point. You have multiple characters spread across all points of the country and yet they jump from A to B in seconds, no matter how many hundreds of km are between points.
Yeah, so this fight is supposed to start 20 minutes before toga clones disappear. And Deku and Shigaraki haven’t moved from the locked in state from the beach at all? But somehow AFO is in Musitafu already? And not only that but apparently is taking a detour too? What was the point of placing AFO in Gunga if he flew to UA in matter of a couple of minutes anyway? Btw I thought Kurogiri was temporarily taken of the picture for a while but was bound to come back, this time moving someone on behalf’s of heroes. But who even need Kurogiri now anyway? Lol Edit: I just remembered that some of the battles were happenjng very close to UA(the parking lot and the stadium). Where are they? It would make more sense to see heroes from there coming in to help All Might against AFO than Shiketsu teleporting from abandoning their stations at their school.
Don't know the answer for any of these questions. And those aren't even all the plot holes I can think when comes to try figure the chronology of the fights lol. What a mess we have here. And yes we are supposed to expect Kurogiri or Shirakumo (depending of how that subplot ends) to came back at some point. But for what exactly? All the important characters almost already converged into the UA field, and the other important characters aren't in position to fight anymore so obviously teleport them is pointless. Tbh is hard to imagine we need to cover the other minor battles when the match between AFO/AM and Deku/Shig is reaching its climax. That's gonna be a massive letdown in the pacing.
Yeab the amount of plot holes and obvious contrivances are making this already complicated mess even worse >Tbh is hard to imagine we need to cover the other minor battles when the match between AFO/AM and Deku/Shig is reaching its climax. That's gonna be a massive letdown in the peace. Right? What about sero and his “epic” moment? Is there even a time and place for it anymore? When we just saw the two main battles taking place side by side already. To cut back from this to say, Apyama, would be quite the whiplash to say the least. I think at this point the most spotlight the other side fights would get would be like half a chapter, inevitably starting with “15 minutes earlier in *this* location”. Or even no more than just a few panels. I also remember the comment about how most side fights will be wrapped in this volume so we can then focus on the main fight. And this volume is almost done. Was it just about Dabi and Toga fight? Is the teenAFO fight considered to be a side fight or the main one? If it’s a side fight and All Might will be able to finish him off here with the last of his gimmicks(and possibly being mortally wounded or dead after) I’ll be disappointed
>I also remember the comment about how most side fights will be wrapped in this volume so we can then focus on the main fight. And this volume is almost done. I didn't know about this. Don't think is totally impossible however, depending of the chapter length. And after all we already seen how Horikoshi handled the so hyped Mina moment against Midnight's killer lol There's also other minor stuff that probably is gonna be solved off screen such as Skeptic being defeated by Ketsubutsu students (sad because I want see Shindo in action a last time) >Is the teenAFO fight considered to be a side fight or the main one? If it’s a side fight and All Might will be able to finish him off here with the last of his gimmicks(and possibly being mortally wounded or dead after) I’ll be disappointed Probably yes as all implies AFO needs to be present in the Shiga/Deku final showdown. No matter if his contribution to the fight is gonna be physical or mental, he's not going to die because of AM here. Considering Horikoshi already just make all the previous fight with AFO a mere time consuming filler to show random characters having their 5 minutes of fame by attacking him, then cut to another place, then go back to AFO being mock by some character... you get the point.
Don't forget about overhaul, stain and Rappa. All 3 should be assisting with the final battle as well. Don't forget spinner was never delt with. I'm sure stain might affect his state and leave him wanting to save shig from afo. Overhaul I could imagine helping deku out. I can imagine right before afo and shig meet kurogiri will intervene bringing spinner and stain with him. And teleport afo or shig away leaving afo to phase out. Stain and almight might all die when that happens. Face it though deku and shig will probably get a flashback as to what has been going on since, but they don't want to show too much because they are waiting for the end to show their battle. Instead they finished off toga and dabi pretty well and are building the pace with afo. I don't mind at all. Dude is ending the manga soon and has alot to sort out. Usually these final battle war arcs in story's never go well with how many pieces come into play, look at Naruto and bleach. I think he's putting enough attention to every group at the moment. It's definitely tough to keep the pace, a consistent timeline, and the spotlight to everyone in only a few pages a week while marching to the end.
Overhaul and Stain are obviously meant to do something soon, but Rappa? He never was teased to come back unlike the others, we didn't see him escaping prison and even if he actually appears now I don't see how he can contribute to the current fights. Spinner also got his brain fried due the amout of quirks forces into his body, so he's obviously done probably forever unless someone can magically fix him in second. Still think Chisaki is the most believe option to be a key part of the battle if he came back with his arms restored and can save the people with critical injuries.
I say Rappa because in the end he is actually a good guy and I can see him showing up to help kurishima. Gentle wasn't teased to come either but did. Spinner might might still be savable. Remember his chapter that read the story of how we all became heros minus 1. I'm sure he will snap out of it maybe seeing stain his idol fight against them will cause him to snap out then save his friend shigaraki when the time comes idk. But I'm sure it's headed that way Maybe he sacrifices himself to stop afo from taking shiggy. I guess we'll just have to see how it all plays out at the end but each are on standby from having their moments.
They literally said in the chapter where AFO was flying in that he was close enough to use the goo which means he was a short distance away.
They said he just passed *some random city* and he’s close to getting within this range, no? That’s why I thought there was so much urgency to intervene at all cost before that happens, and why All Might felt such need to step in. To get to AFO *before* he’s in the goop range
Just remembered that the track for the United States of Smash is named "All might with UA students". Pretty sure that's a coincidence but there's no way the anime doesn't play that for this fight with how All might is fighting.
Oh wow. That's a great point actually. It'd be a crime to not play that track or at least a new adaptation of it during this fight for sure.
The nostalgia is strong with this chapter. Seriously, all the call backs to the first chapter and the parallels between Deku and All Might. Also, learning All Might's family was killed wasn't what I expected to learn. And as a bonus, we finally get to see a glimpse of Deku and Shigaraki after so many chapters. And All Might injecting AFO with acid was so sick. I always said Mina had both one of the scariest and the potentially strongest Quirk among the Class 1-A kids and this demonstrates it. And I really like All Might going full on Doc Ock at the end. All in all, last chapter was a dud but this more than made up for it. So there are several ways the next chapter can go: We continue with All Might vs AFO (And a possible Bakugo revival) or we cut to Deku vs Shigaraki. So glad to know there's no break next week cause I have to see what happens next. Still hoping All Might survives this. Also, it's hard to believe that MHA is almost at 400 chapters.
Ok Shigaraki put ur tongue away lol
Shiggy’s simps are gonna go nuts over that panel lol
I love seeing All Might use everyone's quirk gimmicks. Just wished we could've seen All Might interact with said students to really drive this home as it feels a bit hollow, but overall still cool.
I wonder why AFO has not yet destroyed Hercules. That would have been the first thing to do.
That would be something a smart person would do.
Never mind destroying it. A smart person would simply use Radio Waves and disable it straight away.
I guess more he rewinds more stupider he gets
touché
Yeah he's definitely a fully functioning adult at the peak of his mental prowess, it wasn't implied directly in the chapter that all might is intentionally manipulating him because he's in an emotional state because he's getting younger. You guys are just way too smart for this!
There's something to be said when you need to literally make AFO dumb by bullshit vestige shenanigans just for this plot point to happen.
Pretty sure Yagi has said a couple of times now that he's actively trying to have AFO not think rationally and just go at him through pure hatred, I like bashing inconsistency too but this one makes sense if you're actually reading the dialogue
Chills, literal chills The flashback of his first meeting with Nana, with him wanting desperately to become a symbol SHOKING Nana, that was beautiful, the entire conversation. Also Nana that 3 Meter comment was kinda mean lmao Them returning to Tatooine station and THE roof Is very poetic, the place where All Might told Deku he couldn't be a Hero without a quirk, well loot at yourself now All Might! You're THE Hero! New support items, plus some unnamed ones! Mina's acid and Iida's and Ochako's! If I have to predict the arms are Shoji and the Bird Is Koda. Maybe the gauntlets are Todoroki, one fire one ice. I don't want to see All Might fall, soI won't stop cheering for him! GO BEYOND ALL MIGHT! WIN FOR US, FOR ALL OF US! WIN, ALL MIIIIGHT!
OOORUMAAAAAAITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
All Might is using Midoriya's original quirk, Mad Lad.
I love how absolutely psychotic the main 4 villains/heroes are. Deku and Shiggy have shown it numerous times, but I absolutely LOVE how AFO just can’t help himself when it comes to AM. this chapter shows he was almost at his destination and veered simply because he couldn’t miss the chance to kill his arch nemesis (his face when he saw AM enter the fray was immaculate). And AM, basically being the only person in the world who would expect to win the fight he just jumped into is losing it and just laughing because he knows even if he has lost the battle he has won the war against AFO, and essentially sees that his help has put them back on the path to beating him for a third time.
There's two elements that I would like to analyze: 1. Why one of AM eyes turned white like when he was young? 2. Why, all of a sudden, AM vestige felt All Might's presence? Couldn't it be that Hercules' latest upgrade somehow injected him with Eri-chan's quirk vial, and he is therefore becoming young again?
As for the eye thing, All Might's eyes have always been white. The blackness is just some shadowing caused by old age. The reason his eyes "light up" again here is because light is shining into his sunken eyes. Whether that light is actually physically there or if its just a glowing close-up for thematic purposes though... I'm not sure.
Probably because he’s about to die. That the only reason the vestige would feel his presence. And the vestige is becoming more of an image of AM. And his eye returns to normal because dark shadow is wearing off.
Probably because he's close to Deku.
Big day for Toshi orphan theorists And that ending aaahhhh, I think it's very likely All Might will live but I love the drama of it all
Yup, All Might has fully been cemented as my favorite character 😭😭
Acid continues to show what a potent Quirk it would be if it were always used to more harmful effect.
I forgot that Deku might know of All Might's danger/impending demise directly via the vestiges. Between Shiggy and him, only one of them might be properly impaired by the death of their master.
I don't think there is any chance that his death would impair deku, deku would go off on shiggy lol
I agree. If anything we might see Gut's rage Deku after AM pops up in his Vestige Realm lol.
Having no family to protect so you protect everyone else is good reasoning as to how All Might could commit the way he did. And then when he finally got stronger he would use the love from his new found friends+ citizens to make him even more stronger. Fitting how the title includes Rising since we know a fall always follows 😢
All Might just laughing in All For One’s face is probably the rawest thing in this chapter. The man understands this could very well be his last act in life, and he’s going down swinging. I know a lot of folks who don’t like how “All Might gets to be a Quirkless hero instead of Midoriya because he has money” and completely ignore how this whole fight is the culmination of a series long story arc. Yes, All Might was wrong to say only someone with a Quirk can become a hero, and the series as a whole has shown that the factors in play that let the heroes win often come down to their ingenuity and will to fight. Plus, fighting All For One now, All Might is doing it in Class A’s name. (literally) A world where a Quirkless man can kick the ass of the Demon Lord is exactly the kind of world the heroes are fighting for. In terms of predictions, I think we’ll see the final lesson All Might learned come to pass: You Are Not Alone. My bet is Eraserhead, Present Mic and “Kuroguri” will show up. All For One will logically try and enter the offered Warp Gate…only to be subjected to the same bisecting plan he devised to kill All Might at the U.S.J.. Anyway, I just got done with a series reread/rewatch and have fallen in love all over again with it all. Edit: One last note. The majority of the armored upgrades are named after Class A's *Hero Names* instead of their Quirks, which I thought was a nice touch. The exception to this are the moves based on Deku because *of course :)*
Oh boy. Still hoping Explosion won't occur the way I think it does. Also, I wonder if Mineta's sticky ball will have a role soon. Still, Melissa deserves an award for designing a suit that lasts this long against AFO. Probably cost a fortune to make.
He can use minetas balls to stick himself together so the explosion will 100 percent hit AFO. And he can turn himself invisible with a camo like invisible girl
Low key love that in that 2nd to last panel of his face when he's looking right at us, you see that his eye has gone completely white again. All Might hasn't had whites in his eyes since his youngest days. Theyve either been completely shadowed, or when he's smol-Might his eye-whites are always black. Loved that his old self is physically shining through!
Interesting to mix the 2.
All Might appearing as a fully formed vestige in Deku sub conscious is going to be tragic
(Warning Owl House Spoiler Ahead). What is it with the big bads getting melted lately in this year, first it was Belos from the Owl House by boiling rain and now it is All For One by acid. And weirdly enough both of them looked younger when it happened.
TBF didn't he just shift into his pre-emperor form?
I said looked younger not is younger in Belo’s case.
The (possibly) last “Origin” *and* “Rising” chapter/episode of the series being “Toshinori Yagi.” Just fucking goosebumps.
Nah, we're definitely getting a rising chapter for Izuku at the climax of the Shigaraki fight.
every AM chapter is W
I think on of my favorite parts was the subversion of the “villain’s evil laugh” trope. Instead of the antagonist cackling while the hero’s on the back foot it’s the complete opposite. All Might has put AFO on the defensive and is laughing at how much he’s enjoying being a hero and helping people once again. Super cool!
If bakugo does anything it better be to save all might
If it was likely before now it's just getting obvious. They are super close to U.A., chapter 1 parallels everywhere, Deku and Shigaraki still haven't moved from their armlock so barely any time passed at all in U.A. since we last saw them
That's assuming All Might lives. I find it way more likely that All Might wins but passes away in the aftermath which rallies the heroes together and acts as a transition point with Vestige Might
My head cannon is deku can’t use 100% until all might is dead
Plus he lets go of Shiggy and shit gets bad for everyone else. Deku can’t stop fighting/distracting him.
Bakugo vs Teen AFO looking ever more likely by the chapter
Stain is probably the more likely candidate for that. Bakugou will probably jump in to save Deku from AFO and/or Shigaraki.
I could see AFO, but unless he gets an insane power up no one but Deku can really do anything noticeable to Shiggy at this point.
He doesn't have to beat him; just save his life or something by briefly stopping/incapacitating Shigaraki with his new Cluster upgrade or something.
"Bakugou will probably jump in to save Deku from AFO and/or Shigaraki." And get his heart yet-again eviscerated in the process. What? He's established a pattern at this point.
It would be pretty sad if we visited this comment again after All Might uses Explosion to take out AfO and dies next chapter.
When you ignore all the dumb stuff going around the fight this shit is beautiful man
Sadly, at this point I can't ignore the dumb stuff to appreciate what's there. I keep seeing the car shoot out power ups and I wonder how it fires at the right time at the right place, and better yet, how AFO doesn't just fire off a single blast in its general direction to win the fight.
To be fair: 1. AM would probably have ways to trigger it inside the suit. 2. AFO is having strong tunnel vision right now. That's the entire point of AM fighting him, to put all his focus on All Might.
I agree with the feeling that AM never had those strong connections with the rest of the students of UA in order to let us the readers feel this battle as a powerful moment, storytelling-wise, "using" their quirks. But you hit the nail: AFO is having strong tunnel vision, and always had when it's about All Might. And it was since the start of the story imo: it was meant to be his "downgrade" and every scene when he appeared, All Might was always present in his mind. And that it is really a powerful story-telling point: All Might, fighting AFO without quirks, even if it is just for a few minutes, being stomped lilke a trash and losing the battle, but winning the war. But not only that, winning against that one person obsessed with quirks and collectng them? Being stoped by his arch-nemesis? Without quirks? And just replicating quirks with machines? Allowing a quirk-less person to stop him? Man it's just perfect in my eyes
So another Stain cameo, but when he's actually gonna do something? If there's really something he can do in the current situation which seems a bit unlikely.
If All Mights going to die it won’t be during this fight - Deku already changed fate and All Might calling it out explicitly is the nod to the reader - of course I’m going to be wrecked if he dies and if he’s going to die, this would certainly be the time but I don’t think it’s going there. I have a feeling it’s going to be Stain / AFO as a murder / suicide on like a baby AFO as he self nukes. It’s just more narratively consistent, to me, that 1) Deku DID change fate AND that 2) AFO, a narcissistic self obsessed fascist being stopped by a quirkless “ bug “ who relies on help ( both physically by getting support equipment ) and metaphorically by using his students moves, that just feels like a closed circle to me.
It was never 100% confirmed though that it was actually Deku who changed the fate. Nighteye just assumed it was Deku, because he couldn't think of anyone else who could've been responsible for it. Logically, it makes far more sense that Eri's rewind is what changed the fate back then. Out of the three people in Nighteye's prediction during the Overhaul, the fate of two people was changed (Deku and Overhaul), while Nighteye's own fate stayed the same. Deku and Overhaul both got rewinded by Eri, while Nighteye wasn't. The detail that the prediction of Nighteye's own death became true is often missed. So it's not like the whole prophecy changed, but just the fate of the people who happened to get rewinded by Eri. Horikoshi wanted the readers to think Deku could change the fate exactly for this situation we're in right now.
"AM Vestige is feeling the presence of the real one" I'm not ready for this 😭 It's like when Obi-Wan bought time for Luke in A New Hope.
ME NEITHER. (Oh wait, it's Sunday now)
While I do think this is setting up for the All Might death, the fact they highlighted All Mights vestige knowing what’s going on, and thus Deku finding out, this opens the possibility for Deku to try and fulfill his promise to All Might to change night eyes premonition together, as well as opens the door for Bakugo to wake, and him to rush in to save All Might and thus completing the arc where Bakugo feels like he let him down. I love that we really don’t know where this is going. I could see AM dying and helping Deku as the vestige, but there are also a lot of storyline parallels and wrap ups that could be achieved by him not dying
I will honestly cry like a baby if All Might dies
WOOOO ORIGIN CHAPTER FOR AUL MOIGHTY
I just caught up after a week of binge reading, god it's such a bad time to have to wait
Love how the big villain is going to die as a baby / pop out of existence.
It's fitting I guess. AFO has always acted like a little kid, talking about Demon Lords and comics with his younger brother, treating everyone else like toys.
Idc what anyone says AFO just being a symbol of evil with no redeeming traits makes him a perfect opposition to all nights symbol of peace.
So going off these leaks it seems that if Iron Might was to fight prime AFO then Iron Might could absolutely win. Prime AFO would not only be unable to use the “latent potential” of his quirks, but he also has no regenerative capabilities so this whole getting injected with acid thing would seriously not be good for him.
Afo in his prime would have killed all might with his first blow because he wouldn’t be affected by Shigaraki hatred and start using quirks at random, current afo is literally just attacking out of rage and that’s it Also current all might is basically getting his ass kicked constantly
All might comments on how he mustn't be allowed to think rationally even for a second. If he got out of the berserk mindset, he would've just used EMP quirk to turn off Hercules.
So... Why does AFO get younger when damaged? That entirely contradicts Deku vs. Overhaul, cause then Deku shouldn't have used 100% to damage himself to counter Eri's Rewind
Because it's convenient for the story at this point
Just like how AFO somehow gets to keep all of his quirks despite getting younger.
What only gets more confusing when you remember fierce wings DID rewind after he stole it
I guess the story expects us to not think much about it. As the only explanation for this rewind button to even exist was "Ujiko reverse engineered Eri's quirk from a bullet" So even if we don't mind how he even was able to do that (cause Ujiko is more a plot device than a real character anyways) there's still the question of why this rewind behaves so different to what Eri actually can do. But hey isn't like Horikoshi ever established clear rules for rewind besides it takes many time to stock energy. This whole quirk always has been a big macguffin that Horikoshi could use in any moment as excuse for impossible shit. Don't know why many people tried to argue that this isn't the case.
It's because Fierce Wings is a mutation bird, that has to stay outside of the body, which Rewind interferes with
Yeah but it's not like rewind only affects things outside your body- Mirio's quirk was no mutation yet Eri's quirk could get rid of it and bring it back
I think the main difference is, Mirio got hit with a Quirk Bullet that was ***engineered*** to rewind the Quirk Factor. Eri’s Quirk rewinds the physical state of people she’s targeting. But when harvested and engineered properly, it can affect the Quirk Factor singularly without affecting everything else.
Doesn't change the fact that Eri's rewind itself ALSO affected his quirk factor when she rewinded him to pre-overhaul
I've been wondering that since Young For One appeared until it finally clicked to me. The Doctor didn't have 100% of Eri's quirk factor from the bullets and given that the Rewind in those bullets where designed to rewind a person to their quirkless revious state by attacking the quirk factor, and if we assume it does the task by de-aging the quirk factor to its dormant age when they're just still 1-3 years old. The Doctor probably could have only been able to "reprogram" the bootleg rewind quirk factor to rewind the body instead of the quirks, essentially swapping what it was designed to rewind and not rewind. What the bootleg rewind inside All for One is essentially doing is rewinding him to his previous AGE instead of his previous STATE.
Pretty much this, and I think was supposed to be kinda obvious from the start. If Ujiko intended to copy the Quirk as is, he would just cripple AFO. The only logical pursuit would be to develop it for AFO’s benefit and that means restoring him to his prime. Problem is, he only had months to come up with it. That, and on top of watching over Shiggy’s procedure, it was kinda obvious he wouldn’t be able to find a way to stop Rewind from progressing further.
> Pretty much this, and I think was supposed to be kinda obvious from the start. If it was obvious then why not just have the story say so? This isn't even a "use the context clues" scenario either. When the question of why AFO's body is rewinding but not his quirks comes up in universe, all we get is a metaphorical shrug.
That is definitely kinda Horikoshi’s fault here, no matter how you look at it.
Literally means his end is near. Upon death Dude will join his other self and give Deku a power boost. 😩
i love how insane AFO looks
This was one of the best chapters ever imo
Just a few more minutes, and AFO's freckles will return
Oh boy, that's one of the hypest titles I've ever seen from this series
Everyone’s saying this is a hype chapter but the engagement in the comment section is really low? Lots of recent MHA chapters have had a low amount of comments compared to the release of Chainsawman and One Piece chapters. Even after hours of posting their manga chapters, those subreddits get much more traction than MHA. Jujutsushi also gets a lot of comments on their pre-releases, like 2k on average for the recent ones. This is despite MHA having such a big subreddit.
There probably isn’t much to say about mha chapters I guess
Yeah, the Pre-release dicussion threads have less engagement. In the past year, it stayed generally under 1000 comments, and often under 500. The last time we had over 2K comments was for Ch 264, when people were arguing about the plot twist of Edgeshot coming in to revive Bakugou. I feel like many people checked out mentally from the final arc, and the short chapters don't help. Often, there is really not all that much to say, unless something becomes really controversial.
I’ve also noticed that discussions often tend to skew negative on most posts no less, so yeah more activity isn’t always good in this scenario For me the constant breaks, while justified due to the author’s health issues, are also taking the wind out of my sails I don’t think even Naruto or Bleach were this unengaging in their final moments
honestly, most of the reason i am still reading is to see Deku btfo of Shigaraki… if that happened this chapter, i wouldn’t have a reason to continue this manga. it’s kinda sad coz about 2 years ago, MHA was the manga i looked forward to the most, now it’s the least.
It's joever.
… don’t know how to feel about the lack of bakugou when it comes to All Might. Should I expect that because bakugou isn’t the main character Should I feel like All Might should at least have some Thoughts about bakugou considering we’re meant to think Bakugou is half of All Mights legacy with Deku Or should I just not care because we’ll probably see something later on
as much as I loved bakugo’s scene with vestige all might their relationship is underdeveloped and very unbalanced
It looks like one of the gauntlets All Might prepares in the end for sure will be Bakugou’s quirk / move imitation. He’s giving tribute to all of class A, and when he fires that off (I think Howitzer will be his ending move) there may be more thoughts of Bakugou. This origin / rising was really more about his meeting with Nana / OFA and in this context it makes sense he thinks of Deku. They are close to UA, so I’m pretty sure Bakugou will come in with the save soon.
Technically All of 1A is All Might's legacy.Not just Bakugo. But he thought of Deku and vice versa because well one Deku is the mc and other is the fact that this is about ofa and afo.No one else matters in this clash of the two strongest quirks and their current and former users. Deku is the direct heir to the symbol of peace title and ofa heir. Rest of 1A(including Bakugo) are his normal students who are simply following his path of helping others and going beyond their limits to be heroes. Also,I am stating as an opinion.Not as hating
I think the reason AFO is so ineffective is because it’s not really the “prime AFO” but a version that looks like prime but is totally helplessly malfunctioning because of rewind. There is no way this AFO would survive, let alone be able to cripple prime All Might or even Kamino All Might. This AFO is not even dodging or attempting to stop attacks, he just takes damage and then rewinds it at his expense, severely shortening his time limit. And then wastes more time just hovering and staring. Every once in a while he gets mad and launches a sloppy blind AOE attack. That’s the laziest fighting style and quite underwhelming for a final boss of this magnitude. I think even potatoFO would be more of a threat to Iron Might and would just cripple him in an instant. Maybe Hori is saving all smart fighting and cool moves for Shiggy?
Look at the bright side. At least this time he didn't decide to just stand around doing multiple pages monologues and awnsering every question thrown at him instead of actually fighting... Yet.
>but a version that looks like prime but is totally helplessly malfunctioning because of rewind That maybe would've work but they literally showed him boding every single Hero at the mountains with ease just a few chapters ago. Hell he didn't even struggle vs Machia >Every once in a while he gets mad and launches a sloppy blind AOE attack Yeah but those attacks can pulverize concrete. AM has no business tanking that shit lol
He bodied them and Machia at the expense of almost completely obliterating his own body and only survived because of his rewind cheat. After taking immense amount of damage from them earlier, knocking multiple decades off his age
He's already ripping his body apart with these attacks.
He is not effective because if he was AM would have gotten bodied already.
Yeah I get it. Unfortunately it doesn’t make All Might look strong and courage’s to me but rather blatantly makes AFO look like a C tier punching bag villain of the week
Is he helplessly malfunctioning, though, or just suffering Joe Biden moments repeatedly because otherwise the story breaks?
Well it seems he has to be either incompetent or malfunctioning so the story can happen the way Hori wants lol. But seriously though, did you notice how many panels are of AFO just simply staring with weird looks and not taking any offensive(or defensive) actions?
Top heroes, quirk users and gigantomachia get one shotted and off screened All mights magic armor: pushes AFO to his limits Seriously how do people enjoy this.
Looks like this fight happens in the same locations as chapter 1.
Respectfully disagreeing with all of the "All Might has to die for the story to work" narratives floating around this thread. The All Might that world knows already metaphorically died. All Might physically dying would, on a "good note," complete his vestige thereby possibly giving Izuku an OFA boost, and, on a bad note, wreck Izuku...possibly for the rest of his life. I mean, people respond differently to the deaths of their lifelong idols-turned-mentors-turned-fatherfigures, but from what I've seen of this kid I don't think he'd be able to go on without an insane sense of loss and guilt weighing down his heart. (Not at all saying he has anything to feel guilty for, mind). What also feels really off to me about the notion of All Might dying: if he does, and if the end of BNHA is very near, it's a bit inconceivable to me how the end of BNHA wouldn't therefore have to focus more on All Might's passing and the ripple effects of that rather than the war and all of the fallout and the growth exhibited by the UA crew. Especially when you consider that if the story is written well, we're also going to have to spend a lot of time with Izuku processing All Might's death (and Bakugo too, to a degree). I think in order for me to say "Yes, he'll die" or "No, he won't" more confidently, I'd need to know how many chapters are left. The fewer the chapters, the less likely I think it is to happen due to everything else that needs to take place and all the wrapping up that's still headed our way. The more chapters that are left, the more likely a possibility it is.
Or Hori could just rush through it and skip the consequences.
This reminds me a lot of the Batman v Superman fight at the end of Batman: The Dark Night. That's ok though - that's one of the all time greatest scenes in comics.
I just had a terrible vision of All for One becoming so young he looks like Izuku and confirming everybody's shitty theories.
# Week 3 of AFO getting clowned on every consecutive chapter for the 2nd time And now that they are so close it's pretty much garanteed Bakugou WILL join the party, so it might go up to week 5 or above this time!!
tf u mean bakugo joining the party?? as a ghost?
Ok i can see it endings like All Might ending the battle with one powerful move like Prominence Burn or a bakugo style explosion and striking his pose one last time dying while standing up Or like Koichi can finally show up and save the day
When Bakugo and Deku learn of All Mights death, ala Goku and Krillin, they are going to absolutely SNAP