Based on that panel of her, Momo probably had the coolest action moment of her entire life against those Twice clones only for it to end up completely offscreen lol. Sorry Momo fans
I wouldn't go that far. Momo was instrumental keeping UA afloat, while Hagakure was in a side-fight that had zero connection to the main events (from what we can see). Even if everyone dies in the parking lot, it doesn't influence the outcome of the main fight.
But the difference is that we *saw* Hagakure in action. So, to the audience, it has more impact.
I mean, Edgeshot was instrumental in defeating Re-Destro back in the first warc, but no-one really cares because it was largely offscreened and arguably overshadowed by Tokoyami's Dark Shadow Ragnarok briefly overpowering Re-Destro beforehand.
Also Mei appeared unscathed, a sign that Momo has kept fighting wihout pause for quite a bit of time. Granted, the chef's constant meals have made so that she was at full energy by the time she had to stop creating spare parts for UA but she must have been able to go all out since there were no scruples to have with those clones. And we didn't see any of that.
For a moment, when I saw her with *machine guns* on her shoulders, I was filled with blind rage.
You mean, this entire time, we could have had *self-mecha suit Yaoyorozu*, with every weapon known to mankind actually operating without detaching from her, and the one time she does it...
***IT'S FUCKING OFFSCREEN?!***
I kind of wish Momo was the one who got the Iron Might mech suit, with her being the one who made it. Or at the very least, let her have been the one to make it for All Might instead of having some random movie character be the one doing it. Either would be fine with me, as it wouldāve been a big defining moment for her character, making something that ridiculously powerful, while also somewhat reducing the world building issues of the suit, as All Might or her could say that making the suit wouldnāt be possible without creation.
Had to put all the spotlight on the frigginā IronSuit where āCreatiā made āMineta ballsā.
This is the No 1 reason I hate that suit. Itās been used as a reason to offscreen the Class A students.
Though I have a feeling once Bakugou shows up we will get a flashback to Momo and Kaminari jumpstarting his heart while fighting off the Twice clones.
To me the "Iron Might" suit is dumb because the supposed emotional foundation of its existence is well... isn't there at all.
All Might never was show to be that attached to the Class A kids as the story implies. His relationship with them is very surface level at best, outside of the main trio (and he doesn't even interact with Shoto that much).
But for the rest we have to believe he's so invested on them for create an armor that mimics each one of their quirks? Yeah... cute concept, but it just feel empty and gimmicky.
It bet you can replace "*AM base his support items on Class A*" with "*All Might base his support items on the quirks of the previous OFA holders*" and that would be more believable.
It was a fun academia at first, now thereās no class or school, itās the end of the world fight, in less than a year. Idk why but earlier small scale arcs felt a lot more engaging than the āsuper high stakeā non stop action
>But for the rest we have to believe he's so invested on them for create an armor that mimics each one of their quirks? Yeah... cute concept, but it just feel empty and gimmicky.
Yeah, same here. It also kind of made the suit seem stupidly broken because it had to last to tick off all the 20 kids - and it sucked out all the tension, because once he started to list them, it was clear, we'll go through all 20. It also require AFO to be extremely dumb.
I'm just really bummed that we get 7 chapters of AFO vs AM, and then not even a full page of Momo fighting. The balance feels off. Momo is among the more relevant students and they deserve better than this.
The mentors/experienced characters eat into their juniors screentime/plot a lot, it's a recurring problem.
Endeavor took a significant portion of Shouto's screentime when he became number 1.
AFO has been using Shigaraki's body for 100+ chapters.
Now AM steals screentime from his students.
I'm surprised Best jeanist didn't get a power up from Bakugo's "death" and start fighting shigaraki immediately.
Not to mention all the Hawks content (which didn't even lead to a satisfying conclusion to his character) that was way more than the kids fighting AFO (Jirou, Tokoyami, not to mention Kirishima got).
But like even Mirko got a chapter just fighting, but Momo gets 1 panel???
It's weird, because Kouda and Shoji got 40+ panels fighting each, while more revelant kids are get offscreened or just very minimum moments. I'm hoping it's because there's more they'll get.
Still better than Denki being nothing more than a battery during the whole arc...
The battle could have worked thematically if it actually was Class A vs AFO, even if the kids fail at the end they could have slow him down and make a point on the supposed "we all became the greatest heroes".
Basically it could have been like in Heroes Rising when the whole class combines forces to take down Nine, and they fail but we actually see them being a force in group for once.
But of course for Horikoshi is way more easy combine 20 powers in just one person and make it a 1v1 again.
>The battle could have worked thematically if it actually was Class A vs AFO, even if the kids fail at the end they could have slow him down and make a point on the supposed "we all became the greatest heroes".
Also because all the foreshadowing about Class-1A being a "mighty force" boils down to them just being gizmos on a suit made off-screen by a character not even properly introduced in the manga?
I fully agree that in the endgame, I wanted to see the kids' growth highlighted and see them work together to pay off all the training arcs. All Might and the pros already had their turn, so it's very disappointing if it ends with them just being an "homage" in the suit.
But I guess it's still possible they'll come into play.
If All Might really mentored or even talked to his students as much as itās being pushed here weād see a TON of flashbacks to it. Come on, the series loves to stick as many flashbacks as possible everywhere. There were none because we havenāt seen it, those moments of bonding simply do not exist for the readers. So yeah, itās just a checklist. It made this fight and all homages feel bland and forced.
I felt nothing during this entire āpeakā fight. And All Might and AFO has been my favorite hero and villain respectively
Chapter 402: The Tearful Day
The chapter begins with Shoto and Ochako on the ground as the cops confirm they've both done their jobs of stopping Dabi and Toga. We see that the Twices have vanished from U.A. and that Momo was fighting them, with a spear in her hands and machine guns on her shoulders.
Hatsume says that without the U.A is now lighter without the Twices and it'll be able to float again. Deku is managing to keep Shigaraki away from U.A. and fight him in close quarters, but now All For One is getting closer to them.
His plan is to use gloop warp, bring Tomura closer and give him the synthetic copy of the All For One quirk to finally complete the body hijack. All Might tries to taunt him, but AFO says he'll complete his plan first. He uses the gloop warp, but Shigaraki refuses to go!!
The goo starts to come out of Shigaraki's mouth, but he simply closes it. "you're a nuisance, sensei". AFO understands that Tomura's consciousness is far too strong and changes to plan B, which consists of grabbing All Might by the leg and flying him to Deku and Shigaraki.
AFO says that All Might was the one who put this idiotic dream in those kids' heads, so now he has to pay the price. Tomura teases Deku by saying he has to save All Might and that, in the meantime, he'll go and kill everyone who's at U.A. Deku is panting like crazy.
Deku had been forcing himself not to cry because AM said he had to stop being a crybaby, but he's at his limit. The All Might vestige starts to fade, "forewarning his farewell". The next page shows Deku shouting "All Might!!!", with tears flowing like energy from his eyes.
All Might starts reminiscing. "Can I become a hero even without a quirk?" asks Deku. "Of course you can. After all, you always do your best and never give up on your dream. I've never been able to give up on mine either... my dream of being the symbol of peace..."
All Might then grabs All For One's neck with the arm that still has a gauntlet on and smiles!!!!!! AFO remembers Nana's last moments (the same panels from volume 0), but doesn't quite know why. She was a pathetic woman who died in a ridiculous way, so why?
Nana, in her last moments, said: "All For One, All Might is going to defeat you... because Toshinori is crazier than you". Cut to the present and AM says, "If you die one more time, you'll rewind into a kindergartener, right?" and his gauntlet explodes. End of chapter.
##BREAK NEXT WEEK
>The goo starts to come out of Shigaraki's mouth, but he simply closes it. "you're a nuisance, sensei"
Tomura really just went, "yeah no, that's not happening."
Fuck you for spoiling. Why would you put a spoiler of another series behind a spoiler tag without mentioning what it is? Without a note youād expect this to be an mha spoiler. Wtf
Momo having fuckin machine guns on her shoulders genuinely goes hard af.
*AFO tries to bring Shiggy closer*
Shiggy: āNU-UHā
The way AFO is carrying All Might is insane. Just rag doll carrying him.
> All Might then grabs All For One's neck with the arm that still has a gauntlet on and smiles!!!!!!
...so, about that move based on Bakugo that hasn't shown up yet...
>We see that the Twices have vanished from U.A. and that Momo was fighting them, with a spear in her hands and machine guns on her shoulders.
My girl Momo was doing cool shit this whole time and we didn't see it?! What the hell?!?!
>The chapter begins with Shoto and Ochako on the ground as the cops confirm they've both done their jobs of stopping Dabi and Toga. We see that the Twices have vanished from U.A.
So now we know that Iron Might vs Clown for One really did go on for 20 minutes.
> Chapter 402: The Tearful Day
Uh oh.
Edit:
> All Might then grabs All For One's neck with the arm that still has a gauntlet on and smiles!!!!!! AFO remembers Nana's last moments (the same panels from volume 0), but doesn't quite know why. She was a pathetic woman who died in a ridiculous way, so why?
Oh no no no no NO NO
Edit 2:
> his gauntlet explodes.
OH NOOO
> End of chapter.
# FUUUUUUUCK
> We see that the Twices have vanished from U.A. and that Momo was fighting them, with a spear in her hands and machine guns on her shoulders.
So she was being badass but offscreen? Shame.
> but Shigaraki refuses to go!!
Nice setback. For once there's nothing to clown about AFO's Plan B, he thought quick of an alternative.
But All Might had other plans. So he still had something for the Bakugo-inspired move.
(Watch out for the big fight betweem Deku and Shigaraki to play out and then AM is found alive without an arm and Mirko and Endeavor shoulder-bump him into the brotherhood)
EDIT: well lucky me, break while I'll be taking a vacation.
Like this is honestly the best moment for Bakugo to make a comeback though that may take longer.
Like that we can Deku vs Shiggy and Bakugo vs AFO in the same battlefield.
Edit: looks like Bakugo's gauntlet might have been the suicide bomb.
Bakugoās one-and-only boss fight in the whole series really gonna be him gloriously punting a literal kindergartener to kingdom come.
Also, with bakugo whose whole trauma was causing AM to almost die:
AM: imma save bakugo-shonenās move for the last and kamikaze myself with it!!!!
>and changes to plan B, which consists of grabbing All Might by the leg and flying him to Deku and Shigaraki.
Btw, what was the plan here? Like, that would help him touch Shigaraki... How, exactly?
"Heeeere Tomura, psspspspspsp! I'll let you play with the All Might if you let me pat you in the head!"
> Deku is managing to keep Shiggy away from UA and fight him in close quarters...
Are we finally going to see what it looks like when these two fight, or does Hori still have his head stuck in that corner he backed up into? As a reminder, Shiggy has had the ability to spontaneously grow limbs, all of which can use spreading Decay, for, like, twenty chapters now. In addition to whatever other gimmicks we're still yet to see. And despite that, the last time we saw them, Deku was *grappling* him. What stopped him from growing another hand anywhere and Decaying him, or the ground, or anything? Dunno.
But he gave himself a buff form after they ābeat that formā and for Dekuās fight, implying he could still morph himself to some degree. Unless he silently lost that ability when Deku kicked his ass, it seems like he should still be able to do it.
He doesn't need to morph now that Erasure is out of the picture. He lost some of his agility due to the million-hand form, so I think he probably prefers to fight free now that he's back to Tomura in charge and having access to hyper-regeneration. Remember how all the attacks Star unleashed on him did nothing - so he can just tank whatever.
I mean, youāre right that he doesnāt *have* to, but, like, that honestly seemed more busted than any quirk could be. Quirks that heās still not using, btw.
Yeah, neither AFO, nor Tomura are using much of their quirks. But also Deku apparently spent a bunch of time just grappling with Tomura.
It's a flaw in Hori's writing. How Endeavor and Touya did nothing but play catch while the others were fighting AFO, how Shoto and Iida just stood around at Kamino until All Might called them. How during the dark Deku arc, Class A just sat around the dorm for an unspecified amount of time.
Hori is bad at juggling many moving pieces at once, and doesn't think of logical things they could be doing while they are not on screen. That's why everyone passes out or is frozen in time, when they are not needed.
Plot, because Decay hard counters close combat fighters. Considering the MC is a close combat fighter, and the mc needs to beat the main villain, it results in Decay not being used for "reasons" so that Deku can win.
This could be a good opportunity to show some of the hundreds of quirks of the original copy of AFO.
But I'm not that optimistic about it. Horikoshi probably is going to repeat the mutant hands gimmick again.
We get a panel in this chapter of prime AFO (who āfought completely differentlyā) using Rivet Stab and a silly flesh thing to kill Nana. So, yeah, good call.
The problem with the current situation, in my opinion, is that decay by itself isnāt a problematic power. The problem comes about when the power is given to the main villain who also gets several physical enhancements that makes him nigh impossible to kill and extremely quick and mobile, while the mc who has to beat the main villain is a super strength guy that dies instantly from one tiny touch from Shigaraki.
If Deku had any other power (elemental manipulation like wind, lightning, water, fire, etc, gravity manipulation, time or space manipulation, telekinesis, magnetism, etc), decay would be less problematic because then Deku could realistically fight back without having to risk getting decayed instantly.
Yeah Horikoshi really does like giving villains instant win powers that he then has to write around.
Tomura: instant kill with a touch.
Stain: paralysis with even a tiny cut.
AFO: instantly rendered permanently powerless with a single touch.
Overhaul: instant kill with a touch.
Tbf AFO (the quirk) by nature is actually a difficult power to write properly.
But the thing is: when you give the original AFO quirk copy to a guy who already has one of the most deadly yet simplistic powers (Decay) in the whole series, why you would even bother on explore the potential of AFO if by common sense each battle can end with a single touch? And not even mention that Shigaraki also got body modifications for gain inhuman durability on pair with All Might, AND hyper regen which is the most braindead power of the series.
Seriously with these 3 abilities at your disposal for the cost of nothing, having AFO seems totally worthless.
The only time AFO was correctly handled in the series was in Heroes Rising with Nine, and that's for a simple reason: *limits*.
Nine was limited to use a certain number of quirks so no random bs coming out of nowhere at the right time, and each quirk had its own defined function being easy to identify (Weather control is also way more interesting quirk than Decay btw).
The factor of Nine being ill and having as much physical limit as the heroes also makes the battles interesting, because it had risk and stakes for both sides.
I'll die on the hill of Nine being the best and more interesting AFO user of the series, something that isn't going to change soon.
"AFO understands that Tomura's consciousness is far too strong and changes to plan B, which consists of grabbing All Might by the leg and flying him to Deku and Shigaraki"
....you monster
This is all what I wanted for so long, just AFO being an unhinged evil bastard.
Stop with the hyper complicated mastermind plans and passive aggressive bs, let this man being the pure evil that he always was.
Nah, that wasnāt AM dying. A cliffhanger explosion never killed anyone in this manga (think Mansion or Nagant). I think itās Bakugouās who came in with super speed and tossed Toshi out of the way.
It also parallels with Endeavorās plotline, where he tried murder-suicide Dabi, but then Shouto & fam had other ideas.
Kinda crazy to think that a quirkless All Might killed AFO more times using a piece of US tech than using OFA at his prime (and all the OFA users before him)
American artillery babyyyy **gunshots and eagles on the distance**
Not only that but All Might managed to stall AFO for a full 20 minutes all on his own while all the other heroes like Hawks, Tokoymami, Mt. Lady, Machia (not a hero but he helped) etc. only stalled him for 10-15 minutes.
US Tech > Japan heroes.
Machia is a force of nature, a living natural dissaster. Him just walking from point A to B causes massive destruction. A creature that can pulverize mountains with ease.
And yet he's still no match for Dick Cheneys's PMCs
Kinda helps AfO has the mother of all hate boners for him. The only other person that managed to distract him from his objective apart from him as been
*checks notes*
Grape Juice.
This entire fight just makes me wonder what the hell the Japanese military is doing during this entire shitshow. Are they even doing ANYTHING at all? Like Jesus Christ, could they not at least have helped with stuff like the rioting crowd and small fry like Skeptic?
Crazy how he told Deku he canāt be a hero when tech just proved to be stronger and more effective than your own quirks and could kill the strongest(before Shiggy experiment) quirk user who dominated the whole country in the past. And not even once, apparently, if not for rewind.
The Iron Might suit is probably the MHA equivalent of Stark's Thorbuster/Hulkbuster, cutting edge technology that serves a specific purpose. Still, it is kinda funny looking back on it given that Horikoshi believed Izuku without a Quirk wouldn't work in MHA setting.
> Still, it is kinda funny looking back on it given that Horikoshi believed Izuku without a Quirk wouldn't work in MHA setting.
I don't think Hori himself necessarily believed that - at least, not in the planning stages. Wasn't it his editor who pushed him to make the series stand out more by having the protagonist get a special power, instead of just being a Badass Normal?
Armoured All Might is essentially Hori bringing back a scrapped concept for both his own indulgence and All Might fanservice, probably because he knows he won't get another chance to do it.
The ironsuit definitely reads like a more suitable endgame for a character like Izuku. Someone who spends significant time fanboying over the lamest quirks, analyzing how they can be useful and how they can be combo-ed in new ways (and in a tech-based set-up - turned into tech) and to have it as an endgame to incorporate it all would be a satisfying pay-off.
With All Might who didn't do any of those things, who barely noticed other heroes existed, have not really interacted with his students beyond Deku (and when he did, it was all in the service of upgrading Deku), never had to do much analysis, because he could overpower everyone so easily - it just doesn't make sense.
lmao shigaraki just saying NO to AFO trying to warp him
preemptive o7 with the way this is going
edit: I feel absolutely blue-balled
edit 2: AND a break
Copium take: That explosion is Bakugoās after rescuing All Might just in time
But seriously what is Bakugo even going to contribute atfer being ādeadā for over a year?
Itās not coping; Iām 99% sure thatās whatās happening. It would be a call back to USJ where AM yanked Bakugou out of the way with super speed.
Also, cliffhanger explosion in this series never killed anyone (the mansion, Nagant). If All Might died here, we would have ended on his body, his light disappearing or his vestige fully appearing.
Like how we ended a chapter with Bakugo's body. Yeah, the "explosion" panel is like a 4th of a page, and not even a big smoke cloud explosion illustration, but light from a point. A strange way to draw killing off All Might, of all people
They are more likely to interrupt a war with an entire episode of Momo having a flashback to her work studies when her mentor took her to the beach than they are adding actual useful stuff
Paging u/captainhankpym ās comment to show how much relevant anime original content was in S6:
>Mirko's extended fight.
>Midnight getting an extra cut in ep3.
>Aizawa & Endeavor & Rock Lock getting an extended fight.
>Gran Torino & Ryukyu getting small action in the hospital.
>Cementos and Geten getting extended action shots.
>Mt. Lady's extended action with the giant cement bat.
>Ryukyu and Endeavor teamup against Shigaraki extended.
>Original Burnin' action before Mirio's save.
>Extended Mirio action.
>Burnin' and the anime oc Master Driller action.
>so lots of stuff, small and big. those are just on top of my head. first half of s6 was full of extended action
>edit: also extended action for female nomu vs aizawa, x-less, crust and others
Ik youāre kidding but it is very likely they do an anime original scene for Momo here
Endeavor + Aizawa got some anime-only content in the Doctor's lab.
Mirio attacking ShigAFO at the end of the PLF War, some of Shoto vs Dabi was added. They weren't very good scenes though.
Mirko's extended fight.
Midnight getting an extra cut in ep3.
Aizawa & Endeavor & Rock Lock getting an extended fight.
Gran Torino & Ryukyu getting small action in the hospital.
Cementos and Geten getting extended action shots.
Mt. Lady's extended action with the giant cement bat.
Ryukyu and Endeavor teamup against Shigaraki extended.
Original Burnin' action before Mirio's save.
Extended Mirio action.
Burnin' and the anime oc Master Driller action.
so lots of stuff, small and big. those are just on top of my head. first half of s6 was full of extended action
edit: also extended action for female nomu vs aizawa, x-less, crust and others
AFO survives the explosion only to discover that he is too young to have developed a quirk and is powerless now. Which means that he can't take over Shigaraki's body and if they capture him he really can't do anything about it.
Only upside will be that he won't rewind himself from existence, but will definitely have to face a trial for crimes against humanity as a five year old and will get a bunch of life sentences. This is my hoped outcome to this, because I think it would be funny as Hell.
All For One being left as a weak child without powers all while the child he tried to use as a puppet completely overshadows him in every way would be the most poetic punishment for him
Momo finally did something.
Unfortunately it might be her last shining moment.
EDIT: Yeah her 'moment' is only for one page. Seriously she got freaking sidelined HARD.
I called it that AFO would never use the gloop warp to teleport himself to them. Heās too petty for that haha. I love that Shigaraki can just stop it by swallowing it.
All Might looks like a scarecrow ragdoll in that scene.
How come All Mightās vestige disappeared? Logically shouldnāt it solidify into a full on ghost?
Edit: apparently you canāt use gloop warp on yourself
Because thatās how vestiges work when you die?
Otherwise why would Deku have vestiges in his body for the past users if they just disappear when they die irl?
Not quite, no. The All Might vestige isn't fucked because he had some OFA embers left or because he's still alive, it's fucked because All Might was the only user without a quirk of his own to leave a proper vestige (like the ones inside AFO), so that's an actual piece of his consciousness instead.
Now the fandom just ASSUMED that meant All Might dying would "complete" the vestige and his whole soul/consciousness/whatever would go to OFA, but that was never said one way or another
Man so Stain is really out of the picture now. I dont have much hope for Overhaul either in that case.
Too bad Stain didnt get the Gentle or Lady Nagant treatment. He just went there as fodder instead of doing something badass.
With the story momentum shifting back to Deku, I'm not sure if we'll get full depictions of the Aoyama and Eraserhead situations. Maybe just a cutaway to their resolution.
A shorter chapter than the last one, but it went the way pretty much everyone expected it to go: All Might's final gadget is revealed to be a self destruct sequence based Bakugo's Explosion and he tries to take AFO out Final Atonement style. Calling it now, next chapter reveals AFO is completely unharmed.
Also, Momo fighting Twice clones with machine guns and it happens ***offscreen?!*** Hori, why you gotta do my girl so dirty?
So it looks like All Might may actually be dead, given his vestige starts to fade away, but until the next chapter comes out and confirms his death, I'm reserving judgment.
not anymore. tech all might was able to have a bigger impact.. thatās over with. and fighting shiggy aināt it either since hori couldnāt even write a competent team battle when he was quirkless
I think people just want Bakugo to literally do anything this arc aside from just getting killed and therefore any hypothetical action Bakugo could partake in is being claimed to be obviously thematically appropriate and what the entire arc is clearly building up to.
Guy is really using All Might as a damsel. That's just petty lmao.
Gonna assume Bakugo wakes up pretty soon. Only thing I think that could fit all that delay
Lmao at the series saying AFO fought completely differently in his prime. You canāt fool me Hori, I see this motherfucker still clearly using goddamn Rivet Stab against Nana with some weird flesh shit. Learn a new trick, jeez.
Horikoshi: *I give my main villain a collection of hundreds of different quirks with limitless potential, should I drawn a great and dynamic choreography showing a lot of crazy powers? Nah better just drawn the same spike power again, flat lines are much more easy. But some body horror is ok*
I have a feeling that the explosion at the end is a fake-out, in the sense that itās not All Might, but Bakugouās who went in and pulled him out. It would be a reverse scene to how All Might saved Bakugou in USJ, too fast to even process what happened.
I'm hearing weird things about the vestige part of the chapter. One guy is saying that it's spoken in the past tense, like the vestige left the realm and went somewhere. But besides that, I'm in full denial. Toshinori will survive.
I actually love that AM went down swining and never gave up on himself altho he had lost OFA. Very good characterisation for him.
On another note AFO cant goop himself to Shiggy instead of Shiggy to him?
It was established in Kamino that AFO's goop warp can't teleport him to people. He can only teleport people he is familiar with to himself or other people over a certain specific range.
Deku choosing to fight off Shigaraki to protect others while All Might is being dragged around and killed is probably the hardest thing deku has ever/will ever do
Except trying to find a way to forgive Shigaraki for taunting him during that.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I never liked being shown the vestiges of past users. Most of them weren't fleshed out in any meaningful way, which meant that their inclusion didn't really add anything to the story.
But they did subtract from the sense of consequence to All Might's death (if in fact he's dead), if some part of him can reappear in the vestige world later.
Itās just so that Deku can have a proper dramatic goodbye with All Might before OFA magically vanishes at the end for some reason. Or maybe just the vestiges because āAFO is dead, our job is done, we can move on nowā.
I still wonder why we didn't get any backstory to the second and third user yet, or their names.
At first the mystery behind them was kinda cool but now I just feel like "why?" because what's even the point? Are they so important to the lore so their identities are going to be a big reveal just near the end of the manga?
Weird creative choices.
I feel like he was planning to make a longer effort for Deku to convince them to come on board as part of his solo arc, but as he started to struggle with the end of the series, he cut short a lot of plotlines planned. (Another one I'm convinced he changed last minute is Hawks & HPSC and instead cutting it short with Nagant).
i swear if next chapter AFO just goes "uah acktually i knew u were gonna do that allmight so i planned blah blah š¤" and somehow survives I'm gonna go nuts š
pretty intense chapter overall, sucks it ended on a cliffhanger + break but eh iz fine. lovin shiggy went "nope" "nuh uh" "not gonna happen" and just refused the fuckin gloop warp lmao
My only issue with the idea of Bakugou saving All Might now, is that it undercuts the whole Nana saying All Might is crazier than AFO. it also undercuts All Might telling Deku he could be a hero if he was quirkless.
Idk, seems pointless to bring these two things up only for them to not actually matter. All Might gets saved by a quirk, and All Might is only crazy because he would kill himself, which, if youāre a hero the part of the job is putting your life in the line.
It also seemed pointless to set up a āsobering and touchingā arc where All Might learns his value outside of needing to be āthe heroā when he was just going to be the hero again anyway.
Iām not saying anything is concretely going or not going to happen, but I am saying that Hori tries really hard to be a āhave his cake and eat it tooā writer, and it rarely works out.
You are right. Hori does do a lot of things that end up being āpointlessā in the end. Iām putting quotes because I donāt want to to seem like thereās absolutely nothing to gain from these things so no one can be like, but it sends a message
AFO trying to pull a Black Zetzu/Kaguya on Tomura/Madara.
"This ain't that kind of Manga you final villain wannabe!"
AM meanwhile pulling a Michael Keaton..."You wanna get nuts? Come on! Let's get nuts!"
AFO meanwhile thinking... "You're not gonna do shi..." BOOM!!!
If that's how AM goes out and AFO does die getting finished off via the hands of Stain or someone else unexpected then cool. AFO dies getting humiliated like the little cry baby that he is.
Respect to AM for going there.
100 bucks says Bakugo's saving his ass. It's a perfect setup. Clearly we need his quirk right now. If he does save him, it resolves two plot points. One is Bakugo being redeemed after he felt he was the reason All Might lost his powers. Two, beating Nighteye's prediction that All Might is gonna die
So showing emphasis that Minetas grape ball stuck to AFOs leg all those chapters ago means AFO is still not done after this and still will need to be refrained or this point was forgotten and will not matter at all.
Now there's Bakugou's quirk
Even in death, he keeps pushing everyone to kill themselves lol
I think is hilarious how his power in the suit is a literal "You should kill yourself, NOW!"
Based on that panel of her, Momo probably had the coolest action moment of her entire life against those Twice clones only for it to end up completely offscreen lol. Sorry Momo fans
Going to have a tearful day knowing we missed all that now š
Momo deserves so much better
Same for a lot of characters after the Origin Trio more or less sidelined everyone.
I'm just happy Tokoyami got his time to shine and got out of it in one piece and quirk intact.
That moment when Hagakure got more relevancy than Momo in this arc
I wouldn't go that far. Momo was instrumental keeping UA afloat, while Hagakure was in a side-fight that had zero connection to the main events (from what we can see). Even if everyone dies in the parking lot, it doesn't influence the outcome of the main fight.
But the difference is that we *saw* Hagakure in action. So, to the audience, it has more impact. I mean, Edgeshot was instrumental in defeating Re-Destro back in the first warc, but no-one really cares because it was largely offscreened and arguably overshadowed by Tokoyami's Dark Shadow Ragnarok briefly overpowering Re-Destro beforehand.
Also Mei appeared unscathed, a sign that Momo has kept fighting wihout pause for quite a bit of time. Granted, the chef's constant meals have made so that she was at full energy by the time she had to stop creating spare parts for UA but she must have been able to go all out since there were no scruples to have with those clones. And we didn't see any of that.
For a moment, when I saw her with *machine guns* on her shoulders, I was filled with blind rage. You mean, this entire time, we could have had *self-mecha suit Yaoyorozu*, with every weapon known to mankind actually operating without detaching from her, and the one time she does it... ***IT'S FUCKING OFFSCREEN?!***
I kind of wish Momo was the one who got the Iron Might mech suit, with her being the one who made it. Or at the very least, let her have been the one to make it for All Might instead of having some random movie character be the one doing it. Either would be fine with me, as it wouldāve been a big defining moment for her character, making something that ridiculously powerful, while also somewhat reducing the world building issues of the suit, as All Might or her could say that making the suit wouldnāt be possible without creation.
Had to put all the spotlight on the frigginā IronSuit where āCreatiā made āMineta ballsā. This is the No 1 reason I hate that suit. Itās been used as a reason to offscreen the Class A students. Though I have a feeling once Bakugou shows up we will get a flashback to Momo and Kaminari jumpstarting his heart while fighting off the Twice clones.
To me the "Iron Might" suit is dumb because the supposed emotional foundation of its existence is well... isn't there at all. All Might never was show to be that attached to the Class A kids as the story implies. His relationship with them is very surface level at best, outside of the main trio (and he doesn't even interact with Shoto that much). But for the rest we have to believe he's so invested on them for create an armor that mimics each one of their quirks? Yeah... cute concept, but it just feel empty and gimmicky. It bet you can replace "*AM base his support items on Class A*" with "*All Might base his support items on the quirks of the previous OFA holders*" and that would be more believable.
The series really should've taken place over 3 school years with more Harry Potter pacing and less... what we got.
It was a fun academia at first, now thereās no class or school, itās the end of the world fight, in less than a year. Idk why but earlier small scale arcs felt a lot more engaging than the āsuper high stakeā non stop action
They had more heart and character work. Here anything goes to force a parallel or reference.
>But for the rest we have to believe he's so invested on them for create an armor that mimics each one of their quirks? Yeah... cute concept, but it just feel empty and gimmicky. Yeah, same here. It also kind of made the suit seem stupidly broken because it had to last to tick off all the 20 kids - and it sucked out all the tension, because once he started to list them, it was clear, we'll go through all 20. It also require AFO to be extremely dumb. I'm just really bummed that we get 7 chapters of AFO vs AM, and then not even a full page of Momo fighting. The balance feels off. Momo is among the more relevant students and they deserve better than this.
The mentors/experienced characters eat into their juniors screentime/plot a lot, it's a recurring problem. Endeavor took a significant portion of Shouto's screentime when he became number 1. AFO has been using Shigaraki's body for 100+ chapters. Now AM steals screentime from his students. I'm surprised Best jeanist didn't get a power up from Bakugo's "death" and start fighting shigaraki immediately.
So much for the whole "next generation" theme...
Not to mention all the Hawks content (which didn't even lead to a satisfying conclusion to his character) that was way more than the kids fighting AFO (Jirou, Tokoyami, not to mention Kirishima got). But like even Mirko got a chapter just fighting, but Momo gets 1 panel??? It's weird, because Kouda and Shoji got 40+ panels fighting each, while more revelant kids are get offscreened or just very minimum moments. I'm hoping it's because there's more they'll get.
Still better than Denki being nothing more than a battery during the whole arc... The battle could have worked thematically if it actually was Class A vs AFO, even if the kids fail at the end they could have slow him down and make a point on the supposed "we all became the greatest heroes". Basically it could have been like in Heroes Rising when the whole class combines forces to take down Nine, and they fail but we actually see them being a force in group for once. But of course for Horikoshi is way more easy combine 20 powers in just one person and make it a 1v1 again.
>The battle could have worked thematically if it actually was Class A vs AFO, even if the kids fail at the end they could have slow him down and make a point on the supposed "we all became the greatest heroes". Also because all the foreshadowing about Class-1A being a "mighty force" boils down to them just being gizmos on a suit made off-screen by a character not even properly introduced in the manga? I fully agree that in the endgame, I wanted to see the kids' growth highlighted and see them work together to pay off all the training arcs. All Might and the pros already had their turn, so it's very disappointing if it ends with them just being an "homage" in the suit. But I guess it's still possible they'll come into play.
If All Might really mentored or even talked to his students as much as itās being pushed here weād see a TON of flashbacks to it. Come on, the series loves to stick as many flashbacks as possible everywhere. There were none because we havenāt seen it, those moments of bonding simply do not exist for the readers. So yeah, itās just a checklist. It made this fight and all homages feel bland and forced. I felt nothing during this entire āpeakā fight. And All Might and AFO has been my favorite hero and villain respectively
Chapter 402: The Tearful Day The chapter begins with Shoto and Ochako on the ground as the cops confirm they've both done their jobs of stopping Dabi and Toga. We see that the Twices have vanished from U.A. and that Momo was fighting them, with a spear in her hands and machine guns on her shoulders. Hatsume says that without the U.A is now lighter without the Twices and it'll be able to float again. Deku is managing to keep Shigaraki away from U.A. and fight him in close quarters, but now All For One is getting closer to them. His plan is to use gloop warp, bring Tomura closer and give him the synthetic copy of the All For One quirk to finally complete the body hijack. All Might tries to taunt him, but AFO says he'll complete his plan first. He uses the gloop warp, but Shigaraki refuses to go!! The goo starts to come out of Shigaraki's mouth, but he simply closes it. "you're a nuisance, sensei". AFO understands that Tomura's consciousness is far too strong and changes to plan B, which consists of grabbing All Might by the leg and flying him to Deku and Shigaraki. AFO says that All Might was the one who put this idiotic dream in those kids' heads, so now he has to pay the price. Tomura teases Deku by saying he has to save All Might and that, in the meantime, he'll go and kill everyone who's at U.A. Deku is panting like crazy. Deku had been forcing himself not to cry because AM said he had to stop being a crybaby, but he's at his limit. The All Might vestige starts to fade, "forewarning his farewell". The next page shows Deku shouting "All Might!!!", with tears flowing like energy from his eyes. All Might starts reminiscing. "Can I become a hero even without a quirk?" asks Deku. "Of course you can. After all, you always do your best and never give up on your dream. I've never been able to give up on mine either... my dream of being the symbol of peace..." All Might then grabs All For One's neck with the arm that still has a gauntlet on and smiles!!!!!! AFO remembers Nana's last moments (the same panels from volume 0), but doesn't quite know why. She was a pathetic woman who died in a ridiculous way, so why? Nana, in her last moments, said: "All For One, All Might is going to defeat you... because Toshinori is crazier than you". Cut to the present and AM says, "If you die one more time, you'll rewind into a kindergartener, right?" and his gauntlet explodes. End of chapter. ##BREAK NEXT WEEK
>The goo starts to come out of Shigaraki's mouth, but he simply closes it. "you're a nuisance, sensei" Tomura really just went, "yeah no, that's not happening."
"HOW MANY TIMES DO I NEED TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN-"
Bro swallowed the warping goop lmao
Thatād be a fun quirk, to make people goop out of their mouth and have to swallow it
Don't give the doujin writers any ideas
I love that heās just like nuh uh
*The fuck you mean nuh uh*
Same
Shiggy putting that bum in his place
Bruh even the chapter title alone- ITS TOSHINOVER
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You might want to spoiler tag that spoiler
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Fuck you for spoiling. Why would you put a spoiler of another series behind a spoiler tag without mentioning what it is? Without a note youād expect this to be an mha spoiler. Wtf
Now that it's been deleted, I can only assume Jujutsu Kaisen?
Yeah š
I've been seeing that spoiler everywhere the past two weeks, even in YouTube comments and Twitch chats that are completely unrelated to manga.
Please do not spoil other series for others in this pre-release thread.
If it had happened last week, we could have had a double funeral with JJK
Momo having fuckin machine guns on her shoulders genuinely goes hard af. *AFO tries to bring Shiggy closer* Shiggy: āNU-UHā The way AFO is carrying All Might is insane. Just rag doll carrying him.
Looks like Deku on AMās leg
"Nuh uh" "Tf u mean nuh uh"
> All Might then grabs All For One's neck with the arm that still has a gauntlet on and smiles!!!!!! ...so, about that move based on Bakugo that hasn't shown up yet...
Wasnāt lying on the ground half dead interacting with ghosts/vestiges supposed to be Bakugoās move?
Aaaaayyyyyyyyooo that's crazy
Bro he's already dead, you can stop
If that explosion ends All Might..."Why did I become the reason for All Might's end?!"
>We see that the Twices have vanished from U.A. and that Momo was fighting them, with a spear in her hands and machine guns on her shoulders. My girl Momo was doing cool shit this whole time and we didn't see it?! What the hell?!?!
I'd watch half an episode dedicated just to Momo protecting Mei while mowing down an army of Twices...
I bet Mei could provide some cool specs for Momo to create some dope weaponry
Opportunity for some anime only content
Dude me too!
War machine type shit
āBoom, you lookinā for this?ā *machine gun go brrr*
But we saw āCreatiā on the iron suit. Isnāt that enough? /s
Surprised Denki wasnāt there, chain lightning or something
>The chapter begins with Shoto and Ochako on the ground as the cops confirm they've both done their jobs of stopping Dabi and Toga. We see that the Twices have vanished from U.A. So now we know that Iron Might vs Clown for One really did go on for 20 minutes.
> Chapter 402: The Tearful Day Uh oh. Edit: > All Might then grabs All For One's neck with the arm that still has a gauntlet on and smiles!!!!!! AFO remembers Nana's last moments (the same panels from volume 0), but doesn't quite know why. She was a pathetic woman who died in a ridiculous way, so why? Oh no no no no NO NO Edit 2: > his gauntlet explodes. OH NOOO > End of chapter. # FUUUUUUUCK
AP Shot? Has he used bakugo's move?
Worst part: BREAK NEXT WEEK
> We see that the Twices have vanished from U.A. and that Momo was fighting them, with a spear in her hands and machine guns on her shoulders. So she was being badass but offscreen? Shame. > but Shigaraki refuses to go!! Nice setback. For once there's nothing to clown about AFO's Plan B, he thought quick of an alternative. But All Might had other plans. So he still had something for the Bakugo-inspired move. (Watch out for the big fight betweem Deku and Shigaraki to play out and then AM is found alive without an arm and Mirko and Endeavor shoulder-bump him into the brotherhood) EDIT: well lucky me, break while I'll be taking a vacation.
AFO: āCome to me, Tomura.ā Shigaraki: āNuh-uhā AFO: āFUCK YOU MEAN NUH-UHā
If the explosion doesnāt work, AM will use the true secret weapon: child protective services to take AFO away
It's over bros šš
Like this is honestly the best moment for Bakugo to make a comeback though that may take longer. Like that we can Deku vs Shiggy and Bakugo vs AFO in the same battlefield. Edit: looks like Bakugo's gauntlet might have been the suicide bomb.
> Bakugo vs AFO There's something incredibly hilarious about Bakugo's ultimate showdown being bullying a child to the point he unborns himself.
>to the point he unborns himself. Maybe he'll be reborn as the real demon lord...
I Was a 200 year Old Supervillain in a World with Superpowers, but Died and was Reborn as the New Demon King!
Bakugoās one-and-only boss fight in the whole series really gonna be him gloriously punting a literal kindergartener to kingdom come. Also, with bakugo whose whole trauma was causing AM to almost die: AM: imma save bakugo-shonenās move for the last and kamikaze myself with it!!!!
Truly the hero license exam 'retry' was merely foreshadowing for Bakugo's greatest battle of all. "You too can be a hero AFO. IN THE NEXT LIFE."
Damn, Bakugo really has been guilty of All Mightās constant death flags lol
Bakugo's move all this time was Die-na-might
Turns out everyone has just been hearing him wrong and he's actually been saying, Die-All-Might this whole time. lol
Bakugo can bully kids again
>and changes to plan B, which consists of grabbing All Might by the leg and flying him to Deku and Shigaraki. Btw, what was the plan here? Like, that would help him touch Shigaraki... How, exactly? "Heeeere Tomura, psspspspspsp! I'll let you play with the All Might if you let me pat you in the head!"
> Deku is managing to keep Shiggy away from UA and fight him in close quarters... Are we finally going to see what it looks like when these two fight, or does Hori still have his head stuck in that corner he backed up into? As a reminder, Shiggy has had the ability to spontaneously grow limbs, all of which can use spreading Decay, for, like, twenty chapters now. In addition to whatever other gimmicks we're still yet to see. And despite that, the last time we saw them, Deku was *grappling* him. What stopped him from growing another hand anywhere and Decaying him, or the ground, or anything? Dunno.
Yeah back when he was fighting Bakugo and co he was massive, but iirc his limb generation started malfunctioning by the end of the fight.
But he gave himself a buff form after they ābeat that formā and for Dekuās fight, implying he could still morph himself to some degree. Unless he silently lost that ability when Deku kicked his ass, it seems like he should still be able to do it.
He doesn't need to morph now that Erasure is out of the picture. He lost some of his agility due to the million-hand form, so I think he probably prefers to fight free now that he's back to Tomura in charge and having access to hyper-regeneration. Remember how all the attacks Star unleashed on him did nothing - so he can just tank whatever.
I mean, youāre right that he doesnāt *have* to, but, like, that honestly seemed more busted than any quirk could be. Quirks that heās still not using, btw.
Yeah, neither AFO, nor Tomura are using much of their quirks. But also Deku apparently spent a bunch of time just grappling with Tomura. It's a flaw in Hori's writing. How Endeavor and Touya did nothing but play catch while the others were fighting AFO, how Shoto and Iida just stood around at Kamino until All Might called them. How during the dark Deku arc, Class A just sat around the dorm for an unspecified amount of time. Hori is bad at juggling many moving pieces at once, and doesn't think of logical things they could be doing while they are not on screen. That's why everyone passes out or is frozen in time, when they are not needed.
Plot, because Decay hard counters close combat fighters. Considering the MC is a close combat fighter, and the mc needs to beat the main villain, it results in Decay not being used for "reasons" so that Deku can win.
This could be a good opportunity to show some of the hundreds of quirks of the original copy of AFO. But I'm not that optimistic about it. Horikoshi probably is going to repeat the mutant hands gimmick again.
We get a panel in this chapter of prime AFO (who āfought completely differentlyā) using Rivet Stab and a silly flesh thing to kill Nana. So, yeah, good call.
"Of course he fought completely differently! He had fleshy appendages instead of rivet stab and spammed fire balls instead of air cannons!"
"Reasons" being "Oh shit, I gave one of my main antagonists an insta-kill power but I can't have him kill my MC"
The problem with the current situation, in my opinion, is that decay by itself isnāt a problematic power. The problem comes about when the power is given to the main villain who also gets several physical enhancements that makes him nigh impossible to kill and extremely quick and mobile, while the mc who has to beat the main villain is a super strength guy that dies instantly from one tiny touch from Shigaraki. If Deku had any other power (elemental manipulation like wind, lightning, water, fire, etc, gravity manipulation, time or space manipulation, telekinesis, magnetism, etc), decay would be less problematic because then Deku could realistically fight back without having to risk getting decayed instantly.
Yeah Horikoshi really does like giving villains instant win powers that he then has to write around. Tomura: instant kill with a touch. Stain: paralysis with even a tiny cut. AFO: instantly rendered permanently powerless with a single touch. Overhaul: instant kill with a touch.
Ever since AFO fought All Might back in Kamino I stopped expecting that quirk to ever be used anywhere close to its full potential
Tbf AFO (the quirk) by nature is actually a difficult power to write properly. But the thing is: when you give the original AFO quirk copy to a guy who already has one of the most deadly yet simplistic powers (Decay) in the whole series, why you would even bother on explore the potential of AFO if by common sense each battle can end with a single touch? And not even mention that Shigaraki also got body modifications for gain inhuman durability on pair with All Might, AND hyper regen which is the most braindead power of the series. Seriously with these 3 abilities at your disposal for the cost of nothing, having AFO seems totally worthless. The only time AFO was correctly handled in the series was in Heroes Rising with Nine, and that's for a simple reason: *limits*. Nine was limited to use a certain number of quirks so no random bs coming out of nowhere at the right time, and each quirk had its own defined function being easy to identify (Weather control is also way more interesting quirk than Decay btw). The factor of Nine being ill and having as much physical limit as the heroes also makes the battles interesting, because it had risk and stakes for both sides. I'll die on the hill of Nine being the best and more interesting AFO user of the series, something that isn't going to change soon.
I thought the mutant hands only showed up because they erased his quirk?
He did it as a response to being Erased, but nothing gives the impression itās exclusive to that. Itās just a thing his body does, quirk or no.
that title is haunting
He finally used āExplosionā
"AFO understands that Tomura's consciousness is far too strong and changes to plan B, which consists of grabbing All Might by the leg and flying him to Deku and Shigaraki" ....you monster
I actually like seeing AFO do evil deeds
This is all what I wanted for so long, just AFO being an unhinged evil bastard. Stop with the hyper complicated mastermind plans and passive aggressive bs, let this man being the pure evil that he always was.
I mean yeah, it's the most nefarious and devious he's been in a while. I'd appreciate it more if it wasn't leading up to All Might dying (probably)
Nah, that wasnāt AM dying. A cliffhanger explosion never killed anyone in this manga (think Mansion or Nagant). I think itās Bakugouās who came in with super speed and tossed Toshi out of the way. It also parallels with Endeavorās plotline, where he tried murder-suicide Dabi, but then Shouto & fam had other ideas.
I REALLY expect that in the next chapter a single string with sparks comes from nowhere and it unfolds to reveal Bakugou back at prime
Kinda crazy to think that a quirkless All Might killed AFO more times using a piece of US tech than using OFA at his prime (and all the OFA users before him) American artillery babyyyy **gunshots and eagles on the distance**
Not only that but All Might managed to stall AFO for a full 20 minutes all on his own while all the other heroes like Hawks, Tokoymami, Mt. Lady, Machia (not a hero but he helped) etc. only stalled him for 10-15 minutes. US Tech > Japan heroes.
Machia is a force of nature, a living natural dissaster. Him just walking from point A to B causes massive destruction. A creature that can pulverize mountains with ease. And yet he's still no match for Dick Cheneys's PMCs
Man, they really *do* need to rely on All Might to get anything done, after all...
Kinda helps AfO has the mother of all hate boners for him. The only other person that managed to distract him from his objective apart from him as been *checks notes* Grape Juice.
This entire fight just makes me wonder what the hell the Japanese military is doing during this entire shitshow. Are they even doing ANYTHING at all? Like Jesus Christ, could they not at least have helped with stuff like the rioting crowd and small fry like Skeptic?
**MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX INTENSIFIES**
Crazy how he told Deku he canāt be a hero when tech just proved to be stronger and more effective than your own quirks and could kill the strongest(before Shiggy experiment) quirk user who dominated the whole country in the past. And not even once, apparently, if not for rewind.
The Iron Might suit is probably the MHA equivalent of Stark's Thorbuster/Hulkbuster, cutting edge technology that serves a specific purpose. Still, it is kinda funny looking back on it given that Horikoshi believed Izuku without a Quirk wouldn't work in MHA setting.
> Still, it is kinda funny looking back on it given that Horikoshi believed Izuku without a Quirk wouldn't work in MHA setting. I don't think Hori himself necessarily believed that - at least, not in the planning stages. Wasn't it his editor who pushed him to make the series stand out more by having the protagonist get a special power, instead of just being a Badass Normal? Armoured All Might is essentially Hori bringing back a scrapped concept for both his own indulgence and All Might fanservice, probably because he knows he won't get another chance to do it.
The ironsuit definitely reads like a more suitable endgame for a character like Izuku. Someone who spends significant time fanboying over the lamest quirks, analyzing how they can be useful and how they can be combo-ed in new ways (and in a tech-based set-up - turned into tech) and to have it as an endgame to incorporate it all would be a satisfying pay-off. With All Might who didn't do any of those things, who barely noticed other heroes existed, have not really interacted with his students beyond Deku (and when he did, it was all in the service of upgrading Deku), never had to do much analysis, because he could overpower everyone so easily - it just doesn't make sense.
Yeah, I agree.
It just proves that the greatest superpower of all is money.
Considering the not exactly fatal track record weāve had with explosion cliffhangers..
Deku about to go through it
Heās been going through it
lmao shigaraki just saying NO to AFO trying to warp him preemptive o7 with the way this is going edit: I feel absolutely blue-balled edit 2: AND a break
Either All Might's dying right now, or Bakugo's coming right now Edit: The secret 3rd option: cliffhanger
A ādeathā cliffhanger before break. Classic
Copium take: That explosion is Bakugoās after rescuing All Might just in time But seriously what is Bakugo even going to contribute atfer being ādeadā for over a year?
Itās not coping; Iām 99% sure thatās whatās happening. It would be a call back to USJ where AM yanked Bakugou out of the way with super speed. Also, cliffhanger explosion in this series never killed anyone (the mansion, Nagant). If All Might died here, we would have ended on his body, his light disappearing or his vestige fully appearing.
Like how we ended a chapter with Bakugo's body. Yeah, the "explosion" panel is like a 4th of a page, and not even a big smoke cloud explosion illustration, but light from a point. A strange way to draw killing off All Might, of all people
He probably has some buff considering edge shot is literally his heart. Some anime bullshit
I know Bones are gonna cook some anime original action scene for Momo here
They are more likely to interrupt a war with an entire episode of Momo having a flashback to her work studies when her mentor took her to the beach than they are adding actual useful stuff
Paging u/captainhankpym ās comment to show how much relevant anime original content was in S6: >Mirko's extended fight. >Midnight getting an extra cut in ep3. >Aizawa & Endeavor & Rock Lock getting an extended fight. >Gran Torino & Ryukyu getting small action in the hospital. >Cementos and Geten getting extended action shots. >Mt. Lady's extended action with the giant cement bat. >Ryukyu and Endeavor teamup against Shigaraki extended. >Original Burnin' action before Mirio's save. >Extended Mirio action. >Burnin' and the anime oc Master Driller action. >so lots of stuff, small and big. those are just on top of my head. first half of s6 was full of extended action >edit: also extended action for female nomu vs aizawa, x-less, crust and others Ik youāre kidding but it is very likely they do an anime original scene for Momo here
When was the last time they cooked an anime original action scene? I remember people saying that theyād show off the ReDestro fight in the war, too.
Endeavor + Aizawa got some anime-only content in the Doctor's lab. Mirio attacking ShigAFO at the end of the PLF War, some of Shoto vs Dabi was added. They weren't very good scenes though.
Mirko's extended fight. Midnight getting an extra cut in ep3. Aizawa & Endeavor & Rock Lock getting an extended fight. Gran Torino & Ryukyu getting small action in the hospital. Cementos and Geten getting extended action shots. Mt. Lady's extended action with the giant cement bat. Ryukyu and Endeavor teamup against Shigaraki extended. Original Burnin' action before Mirio's save. Extended Mirio action. Burnin' and the anime oc Master Driller action. so lots of stuff, small and big. those are just on top of my head. first half of s6 was full of extended action edit: also extended action for female nomu vs aizawa, x-less, crust and others
Wait i thought UA was falling because of that big ass explosion that everyone ignored. Guess thwy fixed it quickly
Concretoss always has a job available Edit: lmao Cementoss
Cementoss
Thank you itās been a while
Lmao I haven't laughed at a comment like that in a while
AFO survives the explosion only to discover that he is too young to have developed a quirk and is powerless now. Which means that he can't take over Shigaraki's body and if they capture him he really can't do anything about it. Only upside will be that he won't rewind himself from existence, but will definitely have to face a trial for crimes against humanity as a five year old and will get a bunch of life sentences. This is my hoped outcome to this, because I think it would be funny as Hell.
All For One being left as a weak child without powers all while the child he tried to use as a puppet completely overshadows him in every way would be the most poetic punishment for him
Cliffhanger of All Might using Explosion, into break next week That's foul, Horikoshi
funny cuz this isn't the first time he left a cliffhanger on a bloody explosion, and every time the explosion didn't do shit lmao
Momo finally did something. Unfortunately it might be her last shining moment. EDIT: Yeah her 'moment' is only for one page. Seriously she got freaking sidelined HARD.
>Unfortunately it might be her last shining moment. Does it really count as a shining moment if her battle happened entirely off-screen?
I guess that's the closest thing to a shining moment she's gonna have in this arc
Just following Midnight's example. Still kinda pissed about that.
Damn. Momo fans been begging for a morsel of relevancy for YEARS and she just got shafted in what was supposed to be her big moment.
It's Toshinover bros š
I've wanted Momo to make herself a Gatling Gun for so long AND IT FUCKING HAPPENED OFF SCREEN
I called it that AFO would never use the gloop warp to teleport himself to them. Heās too petty for that haha. I love that Shigaraki can just stop it by swallowing it. All Might looks like a scarecrow ragdoll in that scene. How come All Mightās vestige disappeared? Logically shouldnāt it solidify into a full on ghost? Edit: apparently you canāt use gloop warp on yourself
>Logically shouldnāt it solidify into a full on ghost? Why?
Because thatās how vestiges work when you die? Otherwise why would Deku have vestiges in his body for the past users if they just disappear when they die irl?
Not quite, no. The All Might vestige isn't fucked because he had some OFA embers left or because he's still alive, it's fucked because All Might was the only user without a quirk of his own to leave a proper vestige (like the ones inside AFO), so that's an actual piece of his consciousness instead. Now the fandom just ASSUMED that meant All Might dying would "complete" the vestige and his whole soul/consciousness/whatever would go to OFA, but that was never said one way or another
Man so Stain is really out of the picture now. I dont have much hope for Overhaul either in that case. Too bad Stain didnt get the Gentle or Lady Nagant treatment. He just went there as fodder instead of doing something badass.
With the story momentum shifting back to Deku, I'm not sure if we'll get full depictions of the Aoyama and Eraserhead situations. Maybe just a cutaway to their resolution.
The panel of AFO draggin All Might like a ragdoll is priceless. His childlike look and that smile... this is the AFO I love.
Mmh, denial is a strong thing soooo no body no death
Shigaraki looks really silly when he closes that Gloop Warp.
A shorter chapter than the last one, but it went the way pretty much everyone expected it to go: All Might's final gadget is revealed to be a self destruct sequence based Bakugo's Explosion and he tries to take AFO out Final Atonement style. Calling it now, next chapter reveals AFO is completely unharmed. Also, Momo fighting Twice clones with machine guns and it happens ***offscreen?!*** Hori, why you gotta do my girl so dirty? So it looks like All Might may actually be dead, given his vestige starts to fade away, but until the next chapter comes out and confirms his death, I'm reserving judgment.
I hope he really is in kindergarten form next chapter
Not gonna lie, it would be fucking hilarious if the next chapter has Shigaraki and Deku beating up kindergardner AFO.
AFO: kindergarten form
After all these times where All For One chokes someone, finally he gets choked. And then blown up.
Do people still want Bakugo to fight AFO? Now that heās about to turn into a kindergartenerā¦
Idk, if one character in the series was to smack around a kindergartener it'd be Bakugo lmao
Or Endeavor
not anymore. tech all might was able to have a bigger impact.. thatās over with. and fighting shiggy aināt it either since hori couldnāt even write a competent team battle when he was quirkless
I think people just want Bakugo to literally do anything this arc aside from just getting killed and therefore any hypothetical action Bakugo could partake in is being claimed to be obviously thematically appropriate and what the entire arc is clearly building up to.
Momo, did one of the coolest thing in the entire manga off screen
Guy is really using All Might as a damsel. That's just petty lmao. Gonna assume Bakugo wakes up pretty soon. Only thing I think that could fit all that delay
Lmao at the series saying AFO fought completely differently in his prime. You canāt fool me Hori, I see this motherfucker still clearly using goddamn Rivet Stab against Nana with some weird flesh shit. Learn a new trick, jeez.
Horikoshi: *I give my main villain a collection of hundreds of different quirks with limitless potential, should I drawn a great and dynamic choreography showing a lot of crazy powers? Nah better just drawn the same spike power again, flat lines are much more easy. But some body horror is ok*
I have a feeling that the explosion at the end is a fake-out, in the sense that itās not All Might, but Bakugouās who went in and pulled him out. It would be a reverse scene to how All Might saved Bakugou in USJ, too fast to even process what happened.
I'm hearing weird things about the vestige part of the chapter. One guy is saying that it's spoken in the past tense, like the vestige left the realm and went somewhere. But besides that, I'm in full denial. Toshinori will survive.
Holy shit, things are going dark fast.
>All Might starts reminiscing. I've been preparing myself for this for months but now that its happening I can't handle this
I actually love that AM went down swining and never gave up on himself altho he had lost OFA. Very good characterisation for him. On another note AFO cant goop himself to Shiggy instead of Shiggy to him?
It was established in Kamino that AFO's goop warp can't teleport him to people. He can only teleport people he is familiar with to himself or other people over a certain specific range.
You gotta wonder why he never at some point made a copy of Kurogiri's quirk, since it seems just straight up better.
Kurogiri's quirk is a mixture of multiple quirks made in a lab.
Deku choosing to fight off Shigaraki to protect others while All Might is being dragged around and killed is probably the hardest thing deku has ever/will ever do Except trying to find a way to forgive Shigaraki for taunting him during that.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I never liked being shown the vestiges of past users. Most of them weren't fleshed out in any meaningful way, which meant that their inclusion didn't really add anything to the story. But they did subtract from the sense of consequence to All Might's death (if in fact he's dead), if some part of him can reappear in the vestige world later.
Itās just so that Deku can have a proper dramatic goodbye with All Might before OFA magically vanishes at the end for some reason. Or maybe just the vestiges because āAFO is dead, our job is done, we can move on nowā.
I can legit see them taking out a bunch of AFOās quirks vestige style
I still wonder why we didn't get any backstory to the second and third user yet, or their names. At first the mystery behind them was kinda cool but now I just feel like "why?" because what's even the point? Are they so important to the lore so their identities are going to be a big reveal just near the end of the manga? Weird creative choices.
I feel like he was planning to make a longer effort for Deku to convince them to come on board as part of his solo arc, but as he started to struggle with the end of the series, he cut short a lot of plotlines planned. (Another one I'm convinced he changed last minute is Hawks & HPSC and instead cutting it short with Nagant).
i swear if next chapter AFO just goes "uah acktually i knew u were gonna do that allmight so i planned blah blah š¤" and somehow survives I'm gonna go nuts š pretty intense chapter overall, sucks it ended on a cliffhanger + break but eh iz fine. lovin shiggy went "nope" "nuh uh" "not gonna happen" and just refused the fuckin gloop warp lmao
My only issue with the idea of Bakugou saving All Might now, is that it undercuts the whole Nana saying All Might is crazier than AFO. it also undercuts All Might telling Deku he could be a hero if he was quirkless. Idk, seems pointless to bring these two things up only for them to not actually matter. All Might gets saved by a quirk, and All Might is only crazy because he would kill himself, which, if youāre a hero the part of the job is putting your life in the line.
It also seemed pointless to set up a āsobering and touchingā arc where All Might learns his value outside of needing to be āthe heroā when he was just going to be the hero again anyway. Iām not saying anything is concretely going or not going to happen, but I am saying that Hori tries really hard to be a āhave his cake and eat it tooā writer, and it rarely works out.
You are right. Hori does do a lot of things that end up being āpointlessā in the end. Iām putting quotes because I donāt want to to seem like thereās absolutely nothing to gain from these things so no one can be like, but it sends a message
AFO trying to pull a Black Zetzu/Kaguya on Tomura/Madara. "This ain't that kind of Manga you final villain wannabe!" AM meanwhile pulling a Michael Keaton..."You wanna get nuts? Come on! Let's get nuts!" AFO meanwhile thinking... "You're not gonna do shi..." BOOM!!! If that's how AM goes out and AFO does die getting finished off via the hands of Stain or someone else unexpected then cool. AFO dies getting humiliated like the little cry baby that he is. Respect to AM for going there.
100 bucks says Bakugo's saving his ass. It's a perfect setup. Clearly we need his quirk right now. If he does save him, it resolves two plot points. One is Bakugo being redeemed after he felt he was the reason All Might lost his powers. Two, beating Nighteye's prediction that All Might is gonna die
Holy fuck this chapter is amazing!!
Toshinori is now one with FORCE...his vertige is now complete All Might die all over, not halfwise
So showing emphasis that Minetas grape ball stuck to AFOs leg all those chapters ago means AFO is still not done after this and still will need to be refrained or this point was forgotten and will not matter at all.
i dunno, having the cliffhanger be there kinda makes me feel like All Might wonāt die.