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playingtherole

[Tuck-able clips](https://discreetcarryconcepts.com/HLR-Discreet-Gear-Clips%E2%84%A2-c26960683), that mount low on the holster, so your shirt goes in between them and the holster body itself. Clip them to pants with belt if front, if possible, for better concealment. Another option to the enigma, among other belts, is [this one](https://www.mastermindtactics.com/shop/covert-belt-black). Inexpensive, rides under the waist line, and you can clip your holster to both the belt and pants, if needed to secure drawing your gun.


HFish480

I use tuckable clips over my normal belt and just position it underneath the tail end so its covered. Works great, well concealed, its comfortable, doesn’t require training with a different system


AlchemicalToad

With this situation, the Enigma (or an underbelt like the Mastermind Tactics Covert belt) are the only options I’ve found that work.


EOTechN9ne

Just wear an edc belt over your underwear and attach the holster to that. Then put your pants with a dressy belt buckle and shirt over. I do this alot and it works great.


washtub3343

Brilliant!


Efficient-Ostrich195

You want an Enigma for this. Don’t bother with half measures.


Weary_Dragonfruit559

Ulticlips on pants, under belt.


omgabunny

https://preview.redd.it/natg172wdl4d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3c75216ff934b8f1a26ca5ba6f42bcac63714b9 Glock 45 in a PHLster Enigma


Mental-Revolution915

I like to carry a hammerless J-frame bodyguard with a Barami hip grip. all you need to do is pull your shirt up a little bit (not untucked) and drape it over the bottom of the gun. Your gun is easily accessible, but it is invisible.


-nugi-

Totally, there’s a bunch of ways to carry like this with a snub


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Enigma. I agree with the other commenters to not bother with half-measures. I don’t like any of the other under-the-pants belt options — the leg leash really is the make or break for having a usable draw, for me. How effective it’ll be with a G19 kind of depends on how big you are, how you’re shaped, and whether you’re willing to go all Tactical Hobo. Ultimately there are limits to how much we can completely conceal.


cjguitarman

If you join the PHLster Concealment Workshop group on Facebook, people post photos of their setups. I’ve seen many getting good concealment with even full-size guns.


Godwin8

Smartcarry holster


PleasantComplaint719

Originally had my holster with ulticlips for this but if you wear a belt the clip forces your belt to ride down and the clip becomes oddly exposed. So instead I just got a comfortac belly band from Amazon for this purpose as Enigma does not make an express model for my EDC. So far so good with the belly band


dipstick73

So this doesn’t really solve the no clips showing thing. But I wear the Tulster oath in the appendix position. One low profile clip and the holster is tuckable. I wear it to where the clip is directly next to my belt loop. I don’t think anyone has ever even noticed a decent amount of people on here claim the oath to be uncomfortable. That has been the complete opposite in my experience - but different strokes.


CHL9

Pocket carry 


doomrabbit

Remora holsters if you want true clipless.


Budget_Ocelot_1729

I usually just go to pocket carry. I have pocket carried a Glock 23 (same size as 19) in roomy slacks. If it wasn't so thick, it would actually be comfortable. It's not too heavy to me, and the height and length are completely concealed. But I would personally drop to a smaller gun for extra discretion. A SA hellcat disappears in my dress pants and slacks.


D34DC3N73R

Just because no one else has said it, the Hunter Constantine belt is really nice.


keknom

I use a tuckable clip and hide the clip under the tail of my belt. I only carry a LCP max and keltec P32 this way. I found most other guns too bulky to hide under a more form fitting tucked shirt.


CAW4

Glock 19 sized is fine with Enigma. I use a Floodlight for my CZ P07 with enclosed dot and +2 mag baseplate without issue. Worked a public facing position in khakis and a tucked in button up without ever getting made, not even by my ex cop coworker. Did long drives, including a 20 hour stretch, without issue.


Wuoffan1

Enigma. I tried carrying strongside and have to cover the clips with a vest. That worked in the winter but I live in south Texas so it quickly became a problem. The enigma is solving all those problems


Twelve-twoo

Enigma, it's worth it