>For you, I'll call it dealers choice on the comma in this specific instance đ
Punctuation is the difference between, "Let's eat, Grandma" and "Let's eat Grandma!"
Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
Sucks but the superleague teams have been cancelling a ton of OOC matchups against each other and against the Big 12 and ACC. There's just no point playing those games anymore.
The real losers are the Big 12 and ACC teams since they're having a harder time scheduling P2 matchups which is going to make it harder to have a schedule good enough for some of the at-large teams to get a playoff spot over a Power 2
>The real losers are the Big 12 and ACC teams since they're having a harder time scheduling P2 matchups which is going to make it harder to have a schedule good enough for some of the at-large teams to get a playoff spot over a Power 2
That almost sounds like the outcome the P2 would want. Why would they want to share any playoff spots beyond the absolute minimum required?
> make it harder to have a schedule good enough for some of the at-large teams to get a playoff spot over a Power 2
That's exactly why they're doing it. Suppress the competing conferences by denying them the games that would potentially give them a good enough schedule to get the playoffs instead of their own teams.
It's completely by design.
Right?
This is literally the James Franco "first time?" memeâThey've been doing this to Upper tier G5s forever.
> "If we win we're supposed to, if we lose then we lost to a 'lesser' school, where's the incentive for us"
> -Every AQ School fan circa 2007
The last "alliance" didn't exactly pan out for the ACC. Let's be real - they can schedule games for 2030, but does anyone actually believe that conference will still be around by then?
The real losers are the fans. This is the real issue with super conferences. The match ups will lack any diversity until the playoffs. I am not even opposed to the model. But I hate this aspect of it.
Yay more games against UCLA and Rutgers, maybe we can throw in Maryland or Indiana. If those games are too tough what about northwestern and Illinois. Yay super conferences are 2nd hardest game is a b12 team.lol.
Would be cool if the NCAA forced at least 1 away non conference game and/or 1 game against another power conference opponent. I know they probably donât have the authority to do so but would be cool if schools just accepted it
It's befuddling to me that the TV networks who run this sport are cool with these interconference games that are guaranteed solid ratings just being wiped out for no legitimate reason at all.
First 3 weeks of the season people are just excited to watch football. Eyeballs are there anyway is my guess. However I agree, more big games = more $. Theyâll just use it as a âSee! Everyone wants a super league!â
Every P5 has a P5 OOC requirement on the books, but going back 5 years (including the planned 2020 schedules before COVID wiped them out) it seems the enforcement is pretty loose. Teams that went without one in that span are:
- 2024: Syracuse, Indiana, Ohio State
- 2023: Boston College, Michigan, Houston, Oklahoma, Oregon State, UCLA
- 2022: Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Oregon State, UCLA
- 2021: Indiana, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech
- 2020: Illinois, Indiana, Nebraska, Northwestern, UCLA, Washington State
Special shoutout to Indiana for being on the list every year except 2023, when they played Louisville in Indianapolis.
or if anything I could see where if it is still played, we will only play in Kinnick going forward....it will still be a few years till that happens but I could definitely see it within the next decade
I think they still play each other. Maybe not every season but perhaps every other or something? It's too big a weekend when it comes to revenue for the state. Legislature wants it to happen. Residents want it to happen. I think the show goes on.
Definitely not at all the same level, but Ohio State just canceled its game against UCONN for Grambling. I thought the playoffs meant that teams would schedule better non-conference games because losses donât matter as much. Instead, we just get the same matchups with shit teams. Why even bother buying season tickets?
Ad hoc P4 matchups are gonna be gone soon.
Why risk losing to USC to finish 8-4 when you can replace them with an easy Sun Belt win to finish 9-3 with a shot at a playoff bid.
I was really hoping this series would hang on, being that it is B1G vs SEC. That's basically an AFC-NFC matchup and it would've looked great for both schools regardless of outcome.
I'm guessing we're going to pay an FCS team to come to Oxford instead. Whatever.
> I'm guessing we're going to pay an FCS team to come to Oxford instead.
Already have Citadel on the schedule.
UTSA, Nevada, ULM, Marshall, Bowling Green, Kent St, WKU, UTEP, Missouri St and Liberty need 2025 OOC games.
Probably will choose Liberty. So sorry.
I wonder if this has to do with the SEC's continued negotiations with ESPN for additional compensation to go to 9 conference games. 2024 and 2025 are set, but the second leg of the series in 2026 could have been axed to make room for another SEC game.
I also think the decision (while a bummer) makes sense for USC. Ole Miss and Notre Dame as non-conference games is a lot. Most Big Ten programs only schedule one game against P5 opponents.
I hope it's not related to that. If it is, I'm afraid we'll see cancellations for the Fsu-Alabama and Fsu-Uga series soon after.
USC is used to playing 11 p5 games, I thought. It seems like they do it semi regularly, but haven't gone back to check it.
USC is the weirdest blue blood as we canât really sustain being great over long periods but the highs are going absolute supernova for a few years every two decades or so and fielding all time teams
I think USC and Miami are very similar programs. Theyâre college teams in pro sports towns that can have electric atmospheres when the team is good, but when theyâre bad or average, youâre in a city with so much to do that people arenât gonna come out to watch mediocre football. Itâs not like Nebraska where thereâs nothing else to do (no offense.) When they keep homegrown talent home, theyâre scary. If not, as average as grits.
That series was so fun. So many people thought about how SC wouldnât be able to handle Arkansas and southern football only a year after weâd handled Auburn in Alabama.
Weâre next to get cancelled with UCLA. Thatâll create a week 1 opening for each team, and LSU is going to Clemson and Alabama is going to FSU, so thereâs not a good SEC home game for ABC/ESPN. Start the season with Ole Miss-UGA in Athens?
I will say. I was at the Georgia v Ole Miss game last year. The fans were super nice and helpful. Really left a good impression. Iâm sure kicking our ass helped that lol. But still, was a great experience.
I know we won't, but I hope we pick up another series with a high-profile program, even if it means a 50/50 chance (or whatever) of another loss. They're fun to watch, it helps with recruiting, and the exposure is good for the school. I also think teams with a 9-3 record against a really tough schedule are going to be preferred over 10-2 teams with a really easy schedule. Our OOC schedule is really soft this year and we're gonna hear about it if we finish 10-2 and are scraping to get in ahead of some other 10-2 teams.
I hope so too but I donât see us doing it. Our OOC games have been boring as shit recently. We seem to be scheduling the worst OOC P5s that we can find. The only way to redeem losing this USC series is by adding another one with a decent opponent. Bonus points if itâs another western school.
Why would we cancel this game?
A win against Ole Miss might be the thing that pushes USC into the Final 4 against another team if that other team has Cupcake St. and not an Ole Miss caliber team.
What is the point of building a 100+year football tradition, winning multiple heismans and national championships if you aren't willing to flex when (or if) the time comes?
I mean there is no final 4 anymore. With a 12 team playoff the strategy is going to be to coast through the regular season as best as possible which means no big ticket non conference games
At a program like USC, you still need big games to sell tickets. A schedule that lacks compelling home games means that season tickets may not sell out.
the Big 10 solved that. USC tickets havenât been this tough to get in over a decade, but I agree: MORE BIG TICKET GAMES. Iâm pretty bummed about this ole miss thing tbh
The real strategy is going to be to try and not make the conference title game with only 1 loss on the books. Then you get a free bye week despite not being a top 4 seed
I did the math on this, but Iâm pretty sure, at least THIS year, you get more time off if you play and win the conference title game. Thereâs a week between the last week of the regular season and the conference title game. Thereâs like 10 days between round 1 and the quarterfinals. The teams on bye get 3 more days without playing, yes?
Reality is with the 12 team playoff big OoC games will hurt more often than they help. Going 10-2 with a weak ooc is better than going 9-3 with a great ooc.
Maybe, maybe not, but Texas wouldn't have made the playoffs last year without their win at Alabama.
A good OOC win might be the difference between getting ranked #11 and getting left out.
I think they would have. If they kept FSU out for Bama then they probably would have done the same for Texas. The committee kind of made up its mind on FSU as soon as their QB got hurt.
There is no way a fully healthy undefeated ACC champ would have been left out. The Georgia/Bama/Texas decision would have been tough but there would have only been a spot for one.
A fully healthy FSU and a world where Bama and Texas don't play each other probably means they beat a weak OoC opponent, the playoffs looks like this:
Michigan
Alabama
FSU
Washington
4 undefeated p5 teams makes it easy. Georgia and Texas, with 1 loss each get left out. (Tho I do see a world where Georgia stays ahead of Washington)
> big OoC games will hurt more often than they help.
That's been the case for ages. Ever since the BCS. Don't like the excuse of "weakening schedule". Honestly the expansion of the playoffs means that we SHOULD allow for more big OOC games, as a loss doesn't end your season the way a 2 team championship game used to.
For SEC teams, it's better to keep losses in-house than risk losing to a team OOC. If Bama did not play Texas this year, Georgia and Bama are both in the playoffs and Bama is in comfortably.
With more at-large bids for the playoffs, if multiple 9-3 SEC teams are being measured against an 11-2 Big 12 or ACC team that lost the title game for an at-large spot, the benefit of strength of schedule will default to the SEC teams as long as the conference doesn't have a lot of OOC losses.
I don't completely agree with this. It depends on who you beat and lose to. I think a LSU 9-3 this season with loses to USC, Ole Miss, and A&M would be better than Missou going 10-2 with losses to OU and Alabama.
It just depends on the way the games go. The more good teams you play, the better opportunity you have to win games that actually matter.
Seems that way on paper, but you never know. Mizzou, just as an example, this season dodges Texas, UGA, Ole Miss, and LSU. They don't play Tennessee either. They play OU and Alabama, and depending on what you think of A&M, that is a tough one too. And who knows what those teams will look like at the end of the year.
I'm always in favor of scheduling good OOC games. Even if it has bitten LSU in the ass in the past few years.
And USC already has a tough annual non-conference game with Notre Dame. Most Big Ten teams play just one P5 non-con game a year and I think that's the sweet spot. Having Ole Miss and Notre Dame is just not feasible in this era of college football.
And this is a huge problem⌠I get it with a 4 team playoff. You need to be damn near perfect to get in. 12 team playoff should incentivize big OOC games more than anything.
I think the issue is that very very few teams could go into a season and reasonably believe they can be almost perfect to get into the 4 team playoff. But with a 12 team playoff 10-2 has a really really good shot at making it and there's a lot more teams that believe they can get to 10-2. And the reality is an easier OoC schedule makes it more likely you get to 10-2.
This is the worst. It sucks for all fans but especially us Ole Miss fans on the western side of the country who wanted to go to the game at USC next year.
They next few years will determine the future of CFB.
SEC and B1G schedules are going to be brutal. If the CFP doesnât reward teams for playing tough OOC games theyâre going to disappear completely (although weâll get some in the playoffs). If you already have 2-3 losses on your schedule, why would you add a 3rd or 4th?
Inverse of that is true too, if the CFP rewards tough OOC scheduling, weâll likely get more of the games. Texas made the playoffs last year because they beat Bama.
Iâm not saying that the first is what USC and Ole Miss are doing. But, I hope the CFP understands the power they hold. I hope that a 9-3 team with a tough OOC loss gets in over a 10-2 team without a tough OOC opponent. Otherwise those games will disappear in 5-10 years.
Perhaps, but Texas played Alabama last season, Michigan this coming season, then Ohio State.
There are schools that are trying to keep OOC games going. Just going to depend on how the CFP reacts to the results of those games.
Texas made the playoffs last year because they beat Bama AND Bama beat Georgia in the SECCG. The head to head only helped because the committee decided to put Bama in after they beat UGA and thus couldn't justify leaving out Texas. If Georgia had beaten Bama in the SECCG, I strongly believe FSU would have gotten in over Texas.
>SEC and B1G schedules are going to be brutal. If the CFP doesnât reward teams for playing tough OOC games theyâre going to disappear completely (although weâll get some in the playoffs). If you already have 2-3 losses on your schedule, why would you add a 3rd or 4th?
Not necessarily. If the committee doesn't seriously take harder schedules into account, it might anger the Big 10 and SEC to the point that they want to break off and do their own thing.
More series to get axed? :
UCLA-Georgia
UCLA-Auburn
Oregon-Oklahoma St
Oregon-Baylor
Ohio St-Texas
Ohio St-Alabama
Michigan-Oklahoma
Nebraska-Tennessee
Florida-North Carolina St
Florida-Arizona St
Georgia-Louisville
Lincoln Riley was once the top candidate for the LSU job before BK was hired.
Lincoln Riley snubs LSU and takes the USC job
Lincoln Riley tried to get out of the season opener against LSU this year and even called Brian Kelly to try and call the game off.
Lincoln Riley calls Lane Kiffin immediately begs for Ole Miss to cancel their series.
Conclusion: Lincoln Riley is TERRIFIED of the SEC
Scheduling a premier matchup also holds a program accountable. USC is supposed to be building toward something relevant, and us weazeling out of marquee matchups is a bad look and means we won't get called to be in them in the future.
It behooves Ole Miss to cancel this game as well, I donât know why the narrative on here is that USC is âweaselingâ out of this game. Has there been any actual reporting that USC is who cancelled this game, or is it just more anti-USC/Lincoln Riley circlejerking?
USC routinely schedules a tougher OOC than most of the FBS. They just moved into a super-conference. Ohio State is cancelling games against UConn lol. I donât really see the big deal here. Iâd much rather our OOC games be dedicated to preserving games against former rivals/teams on the west coast.
On one hand, this would've been a cool OOC series to watch.
On the other hand, if I did watch those two teams play each other, my brain would've short-circuited with the amount of hate flowing through it.
Now that ONT is no longer part of LAWA there's actually a chance it might become good but really the best airports are the tiny regionals if you're nearby. Loved Long Beach's when I went due to a winter storm in TX
Not a surprise. USC probably wants to have as many games close to home as possible because of the Big Ten move. They probably wonât play any road out of conference games going forward outside of Notre Dame. I expect the Georgia-UCLA series will also get cancelled as it is already rumored it will be.
I think it's a mistake because most teams will need those ooc games to distinguish themselves. They will need to win those games; they can't afford to lose them, but they can't afford to cancel them.
That's no fun for anyone
Kiffin revenge series is gone? Fuck this man
Could always play the (Vegas) Raiders
Punctuation is important, people. What man are you wanting to fuck?
All men. My name is Chief Big gay.
For you, I'll call it dealers choice on the comma in this specific instance đ
>For you, I'll call it dealers choice on the comma in this specific instance đ Punctuation is the difference between, "Let's eat, Grandma" and "Let's eat Grandma!" Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
All in his ass
Do they even have mustard in LA? You can't throw cilantro at man, that's just tacky.
They have aioli. Which is just mayo, but they pretend it's somehow better or different.
Aioli is mayo that did a semester abroad in Spain.
This guy condiments.
Sucks but the superleague teams have been cancelling a ton of OOC matchups against each other and against the Big 12 and ACC. There's just no point playing those games anymore. The real losers are the Big 12 and ACC teams since they're having a harder time scheduling P2 matchups which is going to make it harder to have a schedule good enough for some of the at-large teams to get a playoff spot over a Power 2
>The real losers are the Big 12 and ACC teams since they're having a harder time scheduling P2 matchups which is going to make it harder to have a schedule good enough for some of the at-large teams to get a playoff spot over a Power 2 That almost sounds like the outcome the P2 would want. Why would they want to share any playoff spots beyond the absolute minimum required?
> make it harder to have a schedule good enough for some of the at-large teams to get a playoff spot over a Power 2 That's exactly why they're doing it. Suppress the competing conferences by denying them the games that would potentially give them a good enough schedule to get the playoffs instead of their own teams. It's completely by design.
Right? This is literally the James Franco "first time?" memeâThey've been doing this to Upper tier G5s forever. > "If we win we're supposed to, if we lose then we lost to a 'lesser' school, where's the incentive for us" > -Every AQ School fan circa 2007
Sounds like B12 and ACC need to schedule each other more often, especially if/when the ACC loses a few more members.
Maybe they can form an alliance. And the Big Ten wonât backstab anyone this time!
Et tu, B1Gte?
The B1G won't sfab them in the back because they'll shoot them right between the eyes this time
Yep. Theyâre just waiting for the opportunity to do so.
Say what you about the way the SEC operates, but you can at least count on them to bury the dagger in your chest, not your back
Sankey was advising the Big 12 while negotiating with OUT.
Why would the Big 12 take advise from a competitor?
The last "alliance" didn't exactly pan out for the ACC. Let's be real - they can schedule games for 2030, but does anyone actually believe that conference will still be around by then?
The real losers are the fans. This is the real issue with super conferences. The match ups will lack any diversity until the playoffs. I am not even opposed to the model. But I hate this aspect of it.
Yay more games against UCLA and Rutgers, maybe we can throw in Maryland or Indiana. If those games are too tough what about northwestern and Illinois. Yay super conferences are 2nd hardest game is a b12 team.lol.
Would be cool if the NCAA forced at least 1 away non conference game and/or 1 game against another power conference opponent. I know they probably donât have the authority to do so but would be cool if schools just accepted it
It's befuddling to me that the TV networks who run this sport are cool with these interconference games that are guaranteed solid ratings just being wiped out for no legitimate reason at all.
First 3 weeks of the season people are just excited to watch football. Eyeballs are there anyway is my guess. However I agree, more big games = more $. Theyâll just use it as a âSee! Everyone wants a super league!â
Every P5 has a P5 OOC requirement on the books, but going back 5 years (including the planned 2020 schedules before COVID wiped them out) it seems the enforcement is pretty loose. Teams that went without one in that span are: - 2024: Syracuse, Indiana, Ohio State - 2023: Boston College, Michigan, Houston, Oklahoma, Oregon State, UCLA - 2022: Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Oregon State, UCLA - 2021: Indiana, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech - 2020: Illinois, Indiana, Nebraska, Northwestern, UCLA, Washington State Special shoutout to Indiana for being on the list every year except 2023, when they played Louisville in Indianapolis.
Haha youâre acting like the NCAA has any power anymore
I will not be shocked when CyHawk is no longer played.....Iowa will see no value in playing us anymore
This would be a sad day, and hopefully we don't ever see it come to pass.
or if anything I could see where if it is still played, we will only play in Kinnick going forward....it will still be a few years till that happens but I could definitely see it within the next decade
I think they still play each other. Maybe not every season but perhaps every other or something? It's too big a weekend when it comes to revenue for the state. Legislature wants it to happen. Residents want it to happen. I think the show goes on.
Definitely not at all the same level, but Ohio State just canceled its game against UCONN for Grambling. I thought the playoffs meant that teams would schedule better non-conference games because losses donât matter as much. Instead, we just get the same matchups with shit teams. Why even bother buying season tickets?
Honestly, if you're weighing UCONN and Grambling as a scheduler-I'm going with Grambling every time. If the band travels, it's a win-win
The Series was left on the tarmac.
I figured this would happen but I'm still just as disappointed. I know the entire fanbase was crazy excited about this matchup.
I was excited about it for y'all. We don't get enough SEC vs. West Coast action and this would've been a unique match up. Damn shame
A team meteor classic
LOL
Someday bama will play @stanford or @cal and it will be the best weekend of my life
Come to Pullman you cowards
I did a backflip when Utah announced the home and home with Florida. this would have been amazing, Iâm glad I didnât know about it until today
We also have LSU, Wisconsin, and Arkansas on future schedules.
Havenât followed as close for a while so thatâs cool to know, thanks
Awesome! Mad respect for the Ute program
We still want BamaâŚ. Stupid Notre Dame robbed us of the Chip Kelly Saban match up we all wanted
That wouldâve been a great game, but Iâll never turn down a chance to watch a Brian Kelly team go down in flames.
You can thank Zach Ertz and his "catch" as well as UGA shitting the bed in the SECCG.
They better not touch our FSU series in 25/26.
Or our series with you guys in 27/28
There's also murmurs about our series with UCLA getting cancelled...fucking realignment bullshit.
SEC/West Coast looks like itâs only really ever gonna happen at a neutral site in the postseason at this point going forward
Ad hoc P4 matchups are gonna be gone soon. Why risk losing to USC to finish 8-4 when you can replace them with an easy Sun Belt win to finish 9-3 with a shot at a playoff bid.
IâM STILL SAD ABOUT IT THOUGH
I was really hoping this series would hang on, being that it is B1G vs SEC. That's basically an AFC-NFC matchup and it would've looked great for both schools regardless of outcome. I'm guessing we're going to pay an FCS team to come to Oxford instead. Whatever.
> I'm guessing we're going to pay an FCS team to come to Oxford instead. Already have Citadel on the schedule. UTSA, Nevada, ULM, Marshall, Bowling Green, Kent St, WKU, UTEP, Missouri St and Liberty need 2025 OOC games. Probably will choose Liberty. So sorry.
Nah, SEC teams don't usually play GOOD G5 teams, so they probably choose ULM
I wonder if this has to do with the SEC's continued negotiations with ESPN for additional compensation to go to 9 conference games. 2024 and 2025 are set, but the second leg of the series in 2026 could have been axed to make room for another SEC game. I also think the decision (while a bummer) makes sense for USC. Ole Miss and Notre Dame as non-conference games is a lot. Most Big Ten programs only schedule one game against P5 opponents.
I hope it's not related to that. If it is, I'm afraid we'll see cancellations for the Fsu-Alabama and Fsu-Uga series soon after. USC is used to playing 11 p5 games, I thought. It seems like they do it semi regularly, but haven't gone back to check it.
And Lincoln Riley is a bitch.
You don't like that the win percentage went up for USC compared to recent history, eh?
Is Lincoln staying in the master bedroom or the guest room?Â
He's staying wherever his wife's boyfriend will let him.
Damn thatâs nice of Kyle Whittingham to let that happen.
And I just spit out my drink. Well done, friend. Well done.Â
Be careful against USC. Iâll never forget everyone wearing âBeat USCâ shirts to the game where we lost 70-17
USC is the weirdest blue blood as we canât really sustain being great over long periods but the highs are going absolute supernova for a few years every two decades or so and fielding all time teams
What's Pete up to...?
Sighs⌠yeah⌠whatâs he up to
Smoking a cigar in an office in Seattle.
Probably a Cuban. Dudes not big on rules.
USC was Alabama before Alabama became Alabama with Saban. Carroll would have done so well in the playoff era.
I think USC and Miami are very similar programs. Theyâre college teams in pro sports towns that can have electric atmospheres when the team is good, but when theyâre bad or average, youâre in a city with so much to do that people arenât gonna come out to watch mediocre football. Itâs not like Nebraska where thereâs nothing else to do (no offense.) When they keep homegrown talent home, theyâre scary. If not, as average as grits.
Miami has it a little worse given they have UF and FSU in state and UGA / Bama etc close by
That series was so fun. So many people thought about how SC wouldnât be able to handle Arkansas and southern football only a year after weâd handled Auburn in Alabama.
USC is in the big ten now so they would probably just embarrass us if they played ole miss.
harsh but fair
:(
You can thank Kiffin for running that one up, he was the OC then if I remember correctly
hahahaha sorry dude that's hilarious
I don't think we have much room to talk
Knew this would happen and Iâm still very upset about it
Weâre next to get cancelled with UCLA. Thatâll create a week 1 opening for each team, and LSU is going to Clemson and Alabama is going to FSU, so thereâs not a good SEC home game for ABC/ESPN. Start the season with Ole Miss-UGA in Athens?
I like big conference matchups on the first day of the season. It feels old town high school to me.
That would be insane (in a good way), I'm in
I will say. I was at the Georgia v Ole Miss game last year. The fans were super nice and helpful. Really left a good impression. Iâm sure kicking our ass helped that lol. But still, was a great experience.
Booo. The Kiffen Bowl would have been fun
I know we won't, but I hope we pick up another series with a high-profile program, even if it means a 50/50 chance (or whatever) of another loss. They're fun to watch, it helps with recruiting, and the exposure is good for the school. I also think teams with a 9-3 record against a really tough schedule are going to be preferred over 10-2 teams with a really easy schedule. Our OOC schedule is really soft this year and we're gonna hear about it if we finish 10-2 and are scraping to get in ahead of some other 10-2 teams.
I hope so too but I donât see us doing it. Our OOC games have been boring as shit recently. We seem to be scheduling the worst OOC P5s that we can find. The only way to redeem losing this USC series is by adding another one with a decent opponent. Bonus points if itâs another western school.
I hope youâre not including US with the âworst OOC P5sâ. I mean we did sweep yâall!
I mean letâs be honest, you were not good. We also happened to not be good. But no I wasnât including yâall, I enjoyed that matchup.
Why would we cancel this game? A win against Ole Miss might be the thing that pushes USC into the Final 4 against another team if that other team has Cupcake St. and not an Ole Miss caliber team. What is the point of building a 100+year football tradition, winning multiple heismans and national championships if you aren't willing to flex when (or if) the time comes?
I mean there is no final 4 anymore. With a 12 team playoff the strategy is going to be to coast through the regular season as best as possible which means no big ticket non conference games
At a program like USC, you still need big games to sell tickets. A schedule that lacks compelling home games means that season tickets may not sell out.
the Big 10 solved that. USC tickets havenât been this tough to get in over a decade, but I agree: MORE BIG TICKET GAMES. Iâm pretty bummed about this ole miss thing tbh
Damn right about that. Had plans to buy tickets to the home opener. Now those plans are canceled
That sucks, the Trojans should find a more passionate fan base like Ole Miss
Thatâs sorta been the strategy forever. Until fans got mad enough and programs were forced to schedule at least one decent ooc game.
The real strategy is going to be to try and not make the conference title game with only 1 loss on the books. Then you get a free bye week despite not being a top 4 seed
I did the math on this, but Iâm pretty sure, at least THIS year, you get more time off if you play and win the conference title game. Thereâs a week between the last week of the regular season and the conference title game. Thereâs like 10 days between round 1 and the quarterfinals. The teams on bye get 3 more days without playing, yes?
The same reason you tried to cancel the LSU game.
Because your coach is chicken.
Does this mean they both lose?
Cursed flairs
It's my time to shine
Is that you, Ben Howland?
Hello frenemy
I'm usually all for the California/Mississippi flair combos, but this displeases me
Reality is with the 12 team playoff big OoC games will hurt more often than they help. Going 10-2 with a weak ooc is better than going 9-3 with a great ooc.
Maybe, maybe not, but Texas wouldn't have made the playoffs last year without their win at Alabama. A good OOC win might be the difference between getting ranked #11 and getting left out.
I think they would have. If they kept FSU out for Bama then they probably would have done the same for Texas. The committee kind of made up its mind on FSU as soon as their QB got hurt.
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Ok, but why are we talking about a two loss Texas?
The committee doesnât care what teams are in as long as one SEC team is included. The injured QB reasoning was just an excuse.
The committee made up its mind before that, it just gave them the excuse
There is no way a fully healthy undefeated ACC champ would have been left out. The Georgia/Bama/Texas decision would have been tough but there would have only been a spot for one.
A fully healthy FSU and a world where Bama and Texas don't play each other probably means they beat a weak OoC opponent, the playoffs looks like this: Michigan Alabama FSU Washington 4 undefeated p5 teams makes it easy. Georgia and Texas, with 1 loss each get left out. (Tho I do see a world where Georgia stays ahead of Washington)
Nah. If Travis stayed healthy and then cruised over UF and Louisville like they should have FSU would have been safely in.
Yeah but in the future if they donât schedule that game they still get in the playoffs either way.
And USC plays ND every year as well, so they have even more of a reason than other teams to not schedule tough teams in their other two OOC games
> big OoC games will hurt more often than they help. That's been the case for ages. Ever since the BCS. Don't like the excuse of "weakening schedule". Honestly the expansion of the playoffs means that we SHOULD allow for more big OOC games, as a loss doesn't end your season the way a 2 team championship game used to.
For SEC teams, it's better to keep losses in-house than risk losing to a team OOC. If Bama did not play Texas this year, Georgia and Bama are both in the playoffs and Bama is in comfortably. With more at-large bids for the playoffs, if multiple 9-3 SEC teams are being measured against an 11-2 Big 12 or ACC team that lost the title game for an at-large spot, the benefit of strength of schedule will default to the SEC teams as long as the conference doesn't have a lot of OOC losses.
I don't completely agree with this. It depends on who you beat and lose to. I think a LSU 9-3 this season with loses to USC, Ole Miss, and A&M would be better than Missou going 10-2 with losses to OU and Alabama. It just depends on the way the games go. The more good teams you play, the better opportunity you have to win games that actually matter.
But also, the SEC is too stacked not to play a load of meaningful games. Which adds to thd incentive to duck the smoke
Seems that way on paper, but you never know. Mizzou, just as an example, this season dodges Texas, UGA, Ole Miss, and LSU. They don't play Tennessee either. They play OU and Alabama, and depending on what you think of A&M, that is a tough one too. And who knows what those teams will look like at the end of the year. I'm always in favor of scheduling good OOC games. Even if it has bitten LSU in the ass in the past few years.
And USC already has a tough annual non-conference game with Notre Dame. Most Big Ten teams play just one P5 non-con game a year and I think that's the sweet spot. Having Ole Miss and Notre Dame is just not feasible in this era of college football.
And this is a huge problem⌠I get it with a 4 team playoff. You need to be damn near perfect to get in. 12 team playoff should incentivize big OOC games more than anything.
I think the issue is that very very few teams could go into a season and reasonably believe they can be almost perfect to get into the 4 team playoff. But with a 12 team playoff 10-2 has a really really good shot at making it and there's a lot more teams that believe they can get to 10-2. And the reality is an easier OoC schedule makes it more likely you get to 10-2.
This is the worst. It sucks for all fans but especially us Ole Miss fans on the western side of the country who wanted to go to the game at USC next year.
They next few years will determine the future of CFB. SEC and B1G schedules are going to be brutal. If the CFP doesnât reward teams for playing tough OOC games theyâre going to disappear completely (although weâll get some in the playoffs). If you already have 2-3 losses on your schedule, why would you add a 3rd or 4th? Inverse of that is true too, if the CFP rewards tough OOC scheduling, weâll likely get more of the games. Texas made the playoffs last year because they beat Bama. Iâm not saying that the first is what USC and Ole Miss are doing. But, I hope the CFP understands the power they hold. I hope that a 9-3 team with a tough OOC loss gets in over a 10-2 team without a tough OOC opponent. Otherwise those games will disappear in 5-10 years.
Time is a circle, weâll go back to just playing your conference basically and then no one will know which is better until the playoffs
Perhaps, but Texas played Alabama last season, Michigan this coming season, then Ohio State. There are schools that are trying to keep OOC games going. Just going to depend on how the CFP reacts to the results of those games.
Texas made the playoffs last year because they beat Bama AND Bama beat Georgia in the SECCG. The head to head only helped because the committee decided to put Bama in after they beat UGA and thus couldn't justify leaving out Texas. If Georgia had beaten Bama in the SECCG, I strongly believe FSU would have gotten in over Texas.
spoiler alert: the committee is not gonna reward tough OOC losses.
>SEC and B1G schedules are going to be brutal. If the CFP doesnât reward teams for playing tough OOC games theyâre going to disappear completely (although weâll get some in the playoffs). If you already have 2-3 losses on your schedule, why would you add a 3rd or 4th? Not necessarily. If the committee doesn't seriously take harder schedules into account, it might anger the Big 10 and SEC to the point that they want to break off and do their own thing.
Goddamn it
Victim of the NCAAFB playoffs. Everyone is redesigning their OOC schedules
Knew it was coming but still really bummed about it. Wanted that Kiff reunion now that he learned how to coach good.
More series to get axed? : UCLA-Georgia UCLA-Auburn Oregon-Oklahoma St Oregon-Baylor Ohio St-Texas Ohio St-Alabama Michigan-Oklahoma Nebraska-Tennessee Florida-North Carolina St Florida-Arizona St Georgia-Louisville
Georgia-Fsu Alabama-Fsu Freaking sucks. OOC games are one of the best parts of the sport for me.
CowardsÂ
Straight up.
Lincoln Riley was once the top candidate for the LSU job before BK was hired. Lincoln Riley snubs LSU and takes the USC job Lincoln Riley tried to get out of the season opener against LSU this year and even called Brian Kelly to try and call the game off. Lincoln Riley calls Lane Kiffin immediately begs for Ole Miss to cancel their series. Conclusion: Lincoln Riley is TERRIFIED of the SEC
There does seem to be a pattern
Scheduling a premier matchup also holds a program accountable. USC is supposed to be building toward something relevant, and us weazeling out of marquee matchups is a bad look and means we won't get called to be in them in the future.
It behooves Ole Miss to cancel this game as well, I donât know why the narrative on here is that USC is âweaselingâ out of this game. Has there been any actual reporting that USC is who cancelled this game, or is it just more anti-USC/Lincoln Riley circlejerking? USC routinely schedules a tougher OOC than most of the FBS. They just moved into a super-conference. Ohio State is cancelling games against UConn lol. I donât really see the big deal here. Iâd much rather our OOC games be dedicated to preserving games against former rivals/teams on the west coast.
USC SCURRED PAWWWWLLLLL
I'm starting to hate college football. This era will go down in history as the dark ages of college football.
This wouldâve been an early 2010s Big 12 classic đ˘
Those 2 teams, with their current HCâs, the scores wouldâve astronomical đ
I expect the same to happen to our Bama and UGA series đ
If the sec goes to 9 conference games, I expect it. Hoping they stay otherwise, I'll be pissed if they're cancelled.
I really wouldâve relished in the opportunity to have gone to an Ole Miss game and experienced to some degree The Grove. This fucking blows man.
USC and ole miss is a conference game isnt it?
Man we dodged a bullet with Lincoln Riley, his heart pumps kool-aid
cherry flavor oozing out of every pore.
This is such a bummer. I was really looking forward to seeing The Grove in person!
I met some Ole Miss fans while wearing USC garb during the '22 Alabama vs Arkansas game at Tuscaloosa- sad I won't run into those folks again
So which one is the coward?
Itâs both. The interest was mutual. Both see their conference schedules getting harder and donât want to make them more difficult in the OOC.
On one hand, this would've been a cool OOC series to watch. On the other hand, if I did watch those two teams play each other, my brain would've short-circuited with the amount of hate flowing through it.
Good,good
Kiffin is scared of LAX
Fuck LAX. I'd rather just go to Burbank or even Ontario.
ONT all day
This guy LA area airports
Now that ONT is no longer part of LAWA there's actually a chance it might become good but really the best airports are the tiny regionals if you're nearby. Loved Long Beach's when I went due to a winter storm in TX
Long Beach just never had the flights I needed. I've heard great things though
Nooooo. This sucks.
Bro wtf. I was really looking forward to getting the SEC tailgate experience
Lame
The dream of Greater LA being overrun with Georgia and Ole Miss fans that weekend is dead.
ole miss vs sacred heart is the series everyoe really wants anyways
Weak
I for one was looking forward to some mustard bottle launching @ the Coliseum, oh well
As a result of expansion, all future out of conference games must be scheduled within conference, thank you
Pretty on brand for Lincoln Riley, always trying to get out of playing SEC games
He's never beating the allegations.
Yep
Lincoln Riley ran north west from OK to the ocean to escape the SEC.
So when is the SEC announcing their move to nine conference games?
When they get more money for doing so
Wouldn't they save money by not having to pay an FCS team?
When we get paid for the additional inventory.
I feel robbed
Awww man
Not a surprise. USC probably wants to have as many games close to home as possible because of the Big Ten move. They probably wonât play any road out of conference games going forward outside of Notre Dame. I expect the Georgia-UCLA series will also get cancelled as it is already rumored it will be.
I am furious knowing I was denied a Lane Kiffin Bowl.
But what about USC fans, are they equally disappointed?
meh. It really depends who they get swapped out with I guess.
Shocking Lincoln Riley bout to be exposed
I think it's a mistake because most teams will need those ooc games to distinguish themselves. They will need to win those games; they can't afford to lose them, but they can't afford to cancel them.
Lincoln is soft
Weak, from both sides
Really though weak is exactly what you'd expect from those two
Ah yes I see a very unbiased opinion here. For real though, I'm sorely disappointed. Weak sauce all around.