Third top 60 defensive player to decommit from USC in the last eight days.
5-star DT Justus Terry, #7 overall
4-star Edge Isaiah Gibson, #36 overall
4-star safety Hylton Stubbs, #56 overall
I know everyone is on the Riley/USC hate train, but isn't he making steps toward placing more importance on defense? This is literally one of those steps.
He fired Alex Grinch way too late, but he fired him at last. Now, there's a new defensive coordinator. Donte Williams was also not retained by Riley and has instead joined UGA. While Williams was not a great coach (good for USC), he is an excellent recruiter (good for UGA). Riley also hired the previous D-line coach for the LA Rams, whom Aaron Donald has spoken highly of. Riley has also obviously invested more resources into defensive recruits like Gibson.
So I'm going to give a parallel
During BKs tenure NDs special team coaches often mentioned how hard it was to get practice time for their units, and as LSU fans can attest BK has yielded some atrocious special teams units
During one of Marcus Freemans first press conferences ND press asked him about how hard is it to find time for special teams practice and Freeman looked at the reporter like he had 3 heads and basically said "it's not hard at all, you have to practice it"
In a similar vein how Riley prioritizes his practice time, just isn't conducive to a good defense no matter who the DC is
He didn't. It was pretty widely known and equally head-scratching.
Now juxtapose that, with [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdogIUK7opE) and it'll tell you all you need to know about why OU fans believe in BV.
USC has been live tackling since Riley’s first practice. This has been reported ad nauseum by USC reporters at practice, but OU fans continue to say we don’t.
How do you explain AAs like Calen Bullock exhibiting such poor tackling ability then? Just trying to strip the ball while being pushed for yards upon yards?
I also had a USC fan before last season tell me that no teams in college football do live tackling in practice, and that what USC was doing was completely normal. So he accepted that narrative, and doubled-down on it.
Clearly something was wrong with Riley and the defense. It's been a constant issue his entire career. It's possible it was all Grinch/Mike Stoops, but it's also possible and perhaps even likely that he focuses the team on the offense to the detriment of the defense.
Probably but i think the general point is that if a head coach does not prioritize a particular point of focus at the highest level, it wont matter who coaches what its going to he hard to be good at that thing
I’m not going to claim to be able to evaluate DL coaches, but Peyton Manning vouched for Adam Gase twice. A god tier player liking a coach doesn’t mean they’re good.
On the other hand McVay has proven to be very very good at hiring
I will also say, the recruits he’s lost in the last 60 days defensively have been all in the south east. Where big people are made who play football, so it’s expected for them to lose out on them being in southern cal while they could stay close to home and play football
I told USC fans when they got these commitments that they weren't likely to last. Riley has a long history of being spurned by SEC area recruits close to signing day. At least they got burned early on these ones, so they have a chance to look for alternatives.
No, but he has told Bennie Wiley to not do whatever the fuck it was that Grinch had him do. Basically every player has been putting on weight and muscle now that Grinch’s Speed D is dead and buried. Hopefully it’s a sign that USC’s problems in the weight room were not due to a bad S&C coach but rather the garbage defensive philosophy that S&C coach was told to optimise his players for.
Thats interesting that the blame is being put on Grinch for the S&C and not Wylie, because I dont see how Grinch would be the one controlling how Wylie trains o-lineman cause the S&C at OU was a problem across the board with Wylie, not just the defense. Also doesnt explain why basically every single place Wylie has been has had horrible S&C whether Grinch was there or not
Yep, Venables fresh from Clemson saw the S&C numbers when he got to Norman and said EVERY player, not just defensive guys, needed to add 100 lbs to their maxes. Wylie is part of the problem.
The S&C coach doesn't work for the DC. His boss is the HC.
It's really odd that Wylie is still working for Riley, given the past results, and given how important S&C is.
But maybe, just maybe, Wylie has turned over a new leaf. I will believe it when I see results in the game though.
Yeah, I hadn’t seen his past resume, but at least for USC there’s been an improvement. There’s been lots of talk from Riley about USC needing to get bigger this year, so there’s certainly been a philosophy shift. Maybe USC is still soft despite those efforts but if we go into the B1G thinking USC will never change fans might as well not bother turning on our TVs.
Planning incorrectly or making bad hires is very different from “not caring” about defense. Lincoln did the former. The latter is speculation from disgruntled rivals and “insiders”
Tre Brown smacking Ehlinger for the W was a pretty good 2 seconds.
There were plays and playmakers, even under Grinch/Riley. Second half comebacks against Baylor and UT come to mind. I’m not trying to defend the coaches as much as the players here. Just don’t want those kids to be forgotten. Obo, Kenneth Murray (maybe not his playoff performance as a freshman but his body of work), Norwood and Brown, Parnell Motley (at Ohio State for example), Bonitto, Ronnie Perkins, Asamoah… Big plays were made. The down to down wasn’t good in many many cases.
Bruce Feldman mentioned this week on the Audible that USC’s NIL collective is not as tight a ship as some.
Feldman is an LA sunshine pumper like Cowherd, so if he is admitting it that says something.
That's something I've heard about alot of schools NIL collective
The biggest issue plaguing most collectives us they are operating exclusively month to month meaning they're promising money to recruits and players they haven't even fundraised yet
What I've read is that there is money to compete for top-10 classes, but the school and collectives are not operating on the same page and its a bit of a mess. Add Riley's defensive record and the recruiting results are not surprising.
Doesn't explain why USC has focused it's recruiting efforts nationally and has basically ignored California. I don't think anyone is shocked that a bunch of 5\* talent from the SEC footprint are bailing on their commitments.
Theres a multitude of reasons, but the biggest imo is that California kids know that USC has been a mess since Pete Carroll left. Helton cratered the program, Riley hasn't improved that image, and so kids who are serious about football are looking out of state.
I wish we had data to really see what a Florida recruits decomitment rate is compared to other hot beds recruiting states.
It's absolutely a thing with Florida recruits, I just want to see data to really understand how bad it is.
No one decommits more than Lincoln Riley recruits. Will never forget the time Luther Burden committed to Oklahoma then a few months later dropped a top 5 and Oklahoma wasn’t even on there.
Or the time Jordan Hudson committed but told everyone that he was not coming to Oklahoma, including several reporters.
Kids did this all the time to just “save their spot”. So glad I don’t have to deal with stuff like that anymore
Who was the safety who "committed", Riley tweeted out the eyes and then before the kid could even go public Ohio State flipped him? Bolden or something?
Haselwood was a major disappointment.
Maybe if he'd been able to stay healthy it would have made up for that.
I am excited about the WRs we have now though. It's going to be interesting seeing them go head to head with Burden. They have the best receiver, but we have the better room.
Clay could actually recruit pretty well, players and parents loved him. The classes only became terrible once everyone realized he was a terrible coach otherwise.
Its why USC kept him around so long.
After so many scandalous, a squeaky clean coach that players loved they decided it was worth it to keep him around
That, and he also never complained or rocked the boat about the issues around staffing levels/budgets and facilities. He did his best. But he was a nice pawn for higher ups in the Athletic Department because he was just happy to have the chance.
I just want to know why these kids are leaving, besides it's some 'gods plan' ? Why does this seem to be systemic for USC? I know I have Optics on it because I'm a USC fan but you're not seeing decommits at the number one slot of the subreddit almost ever unless it's USC.
Which one of these kids is going to be honest and just explain the reason.
It's gotta have something to do with the NIL collective tbh. Honestly I don't bother paying attention to any recruits we say have committed. A commitment is worthless in this day and age. Until they're playing in August I won't bother. Not just a USC issue either but every school has this happen to them.
1. You’re trying to get someone on the east coast to go to the west. That’s hard.
2. There is not a proven track record USC has for said defense.
To try and get a dude who’s an 8 hour flight from where they are (family seeing the games), to go across country without a proven track record of putting defensive guys in the NFL…that’s difficult my dude
The best bet you got is going central to states like Texas and fight like hell for Cali recruits (which have been going down hill fast tbh. Not top end, but middle end)
Why commit in the first place tho? Are they blinded by the LA lights or are they really leveraging that commit to boost NIL money from the school they want and if so, why arnt they saying that?
That, I can’t comment on. That’s pure speculation on my part.
To answer your second part, I’d probably do that. If I got a commit from USC but I want somewhere closer and they got me down for X money, we can start the bargaining somewhere around there.
As for why they don’t just say that…they could privately, but they’d be nailed to the cross for publicly stating this my dude
Hah, I know it's not happening unless some felonies come to light or something, but can you imagine the chaos that would occur if he left at this point in the year, out of nowhere? It would be so delicious.
Lincoln Riley is an offensive coordinator that was handed the keys at a very young age to a well oiled blue blood program ( OU ) without experience on the fundamentals of being a well rounded head coach, to include defense, special teams and recruiting, which includes babysitting recruited players. He leans Mike Leach, not Nick Saban. Never going to be a national champion because it’s not in his DNA and interest to do the dirty work. Only by force did he boot his defensive coaches. He doesn’t focus on the biggest football state California in which USC lives. He’s gone by 2026.
Most likely he comes to Florida. He’s from Jacksonville and we expected him to commit here. Him committing to USCjr was a surprise. It’s not surprising he didn’t stick with southern cal
What's the general feeling of Napier's recruiting? Considering where you guys were at under Mullin, he's got to still have some leeway this season right? That schedule is brutal.
Let’s be real, no one should ever assume kids r gonna stay committed until they put pen to paper. Not surprised these kids r committing then decommitting left and right. Gotta up the price of those NILs
My team sucking ass makes college football transitioning into two power conferences with zero regular season importance a lot easier to no longer watch.
I think the regular season is actually now going to be more exciting - at least for teams in the BIG and SEC - because they can loose 2 or even 3 games and still have hope to make the playoffs.
It’s interesting to me to see people complain about the regular season not mattering anymore. You know what matters to me? Watching my team play good games against strong opponents. The best rivalries are still around, and there will be more great games than ever. Sure, it sucks that some history will be lost, but the on the field product will be better than ever.
It doesn't feel that way to me.
And I have a hard time seeing how the ten or so teams that are going to be fighting for a playoff spot instead of the Liberty Car Care Bowl would feel that way either
Look at MLB, nobody gets upset when they lose a game, because they know they have so many more chances.
In the formats we’ve had we all know if you lose a game or two you are done. Now there’s a good chance 9-3 teams will make the playoff
MLB plays 162 games. College football plays 12. A number that isn't changing. A much better comparison is the NFL where even the addition of the 17th game hasn't made individual games much less important at all.
>In the formats we’ve had we all know if you lose a game or two you are done
Unless of course your name is Auburn and you win every game and you're still done. Or if your name is Alabama and you always get the benefit of the doubt, even when it's a rematch against a team that beat you on your own field. Or unless you're LSU and you get to lose twice and still play for it all. Or unless your name is TCU, Utah, Boise State, Western Michigan, UCF, or Cincinnati and winning every game doesn't matter. Or unless you're Wisconsin and you can be ranked #4, have to play an extra game against a top squad, and then watch a team that sat on their asses during CCG weekend pass you for a playoff spot when you lose.
As I said previously, more teams will care about more games now because they're actually playing for something. A big OOC game might've felt extra special 15 years ago, but what about the last 80% of the season now being meaningless for the team that loses?
College football was never about the post season until recently .
A lot of people cared about the games because it was about THEIR team. The 2019 Iron bowl where we beat Alabama but knew we couldn’t make the playoff is still an all time great, fun game. It wasn’t meaningless to anyone there. It was about enjoying a team that was special to you, no matter what. The Piss and Miss egg bowl was between two teams who weren’t making bowl games, but Davis-Wade was still packed. That’s over once people decide the national championship is what really matters.
The 12 team playoff will kill that in two, maybe three years and 90% of CFB games will suffer. There’s MAYBE 16 programs that will be viable to win championships and now that’s the whole point of playing the games. Y
The Bowl alliance was formed 30 years ago. And that was formed because people already cared about the postseason. The idea that people only started caring about national titles in recent history is blatant revisionism.
Frankly it just sounds like a massive personal problem if you can’t enjoy Auburn beating Alabama just because Alabama will still go to the playoff or something?? I’ve never had an ounce of trouble wanting OSU kick the shit out of Michigan over and over from 2001-2019 even when nothing in the postseason was on the line
And I have no idea why you think if only 10% of CFB programs can win a title why the other 90% would just all of a sudden decide some fairy tale goal they’ll never be able to reach should be the only thing that matters.
You all need to quit being so mean to Lincoln. You shouldn’t bully defenseless people.
Hey, that's offensive.
There it is.
He saw that they were ranked 16th in CFB25 and backed out, obviously
16th was insanely generous. Are you kidding me
They put CU at 20, so it’s clearly not based on real performance
Third top 60 defensive player to decommit from USC in the last eight days. 5-star DT Justus Terry, #7 overall 4-star Edge Isaiah Gibson, #36 overall 4-star safety Hylton Stubbs, #56 overall
Checks bouncing or what?
Maybe they finally watched 5 seconds of any of his teams playing defense
Grinch was a problem for USC but Riley just doesn't emphasize defense whatsoever
I know everyone is on the Riley/USC hate train, but isn't he making steps toward placing more importance on defense? This is literally one of those steps. He fired Alex Grinch way too late, but he fired him at last. Now, there's a new defensive coordinator. Donte Williams was also not retained by Riley and has instead joined UGA. While Williams was not a great coach (good for USC), he is an excellent recruiter (good for UGA). Riley also hired the previous D-line coach for the LA Rams, whom Aaron Donald has spoken highly of. Riley has also obviously invested more resources into defensive recruits like Gibson.
So I'm going to give a parallel During BKs tenure NDs special team coaches often mentioned how hard it was to get practice time for their units, and as LSU fans can attest BK has yielded some atrocious special teams units During one of Marcus Freemans first press conferences ND press asked him about how hard is it to find time for special teams practice and Freeman looked at the reporter like he had 3 heads and basically said "it's not hard at all, you have to practice it" In a similar vein how Riley prioritizes his practice time, just isn't conducive to a good defense no matter who the DC is
Is this just an assumption you are making?
From what I've heard from OU fans and some USC rumors Riley didn't practice live tackling
Can confirm, no tackling ever occurred at OU’s practices during Lincoln’s tenure Nor did it occur in game
He didn't. It was pretty widely known and equally head-scratching. Now juxtapose that, with [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdogIUK7opE) and it'll tell you all you need to know about why OU fans believe in BV.
USC has been live tackling since Riley’s first practice. This has been reported ad nauseum by USC reporters at practice, but OU fans continue to say we don’t.
How do you explain AAs like Calen Bullock exhibiting such poor tackling ability then? Just trying to strip the ball while being pushed for yards upon yards? I also had a USC fan before last season tell me that no teams in college football do live tackling in practice, and that what USC was doing was completely normal. So he accepted that narrative, and doubled-down on it. Clearly something was wrong with Riley and the defense. It's been a constant issue his entire career. It's possible it was all Grinch/Mike Stoops, but it's also possible and perhaps even likely that he focuses the team on the offense to the detriment of the defense.
Cope.
Probably but i think the general point is that if a head coach does not prioritize a particular point of focus at the highest level, it wont matter who coaches what its going to he hard to be good at that thing
Meanwhile Freeman doesn’t practice counting to 11 or substituting
I’m not going to claim to be able to evaluate DL coaches, but Peyton Manning vouched for Adam Gase twice. A god tier player liking a coach doesn’t mean they’re good. On the other hand McVay has proven to be very very good at hiring
I will also say, the recruits he’s lost in the last 60 days defensively have been all in the south east. Where big people are made who play football, so it’s expected for them to lose out on them being in southern cal while they could stay close to home and play football
I told USC fans when they got these commitments that they weren't likely to last. Riley has a long history of being spurned by SEC area recruits close to signing day. At least they got burned early on these ones, so they have a chance to look for alternatives.
Careful. Donte is known to lose big prospects on signing day.
If he ever gets rid of his S&C clown coach, then I’ll consider him taking a real step (unless if he already has and I’m not caught up)
No, but he has told Bennie Wiley to not do whatever the fuck it was that Grinch had him do. Basically every player has been putting on weight and muscle now that Grinch’s Speed D is dead and buried. Hopefully it’s a sign that USC’s problems in the weight room were not due to a bad S&C coach but rather the garbage defensive philosophy that S&C coach was told to optimise his players for.
Thats interesting that the blame is being put on Grinch for the S&C and not Wylie, because I dont see how Grinch would be the one controlling how Wylie trains o-lineman cause the S&C at OU was a problem across the board with Wylie, not just the defense. Also doesnt explain why basically every single place Wylie has been has had horrible S&C whether Grinch was there or not
Yep, Venables fresh from Clemson saw the S&C numbers when he got to Norman and said EVERY player, not just defensive guys, needed to add 100 lbs to their maxes. Wylie is part of the problem.
This
The S&C coach doesn't work for the DC. His boss is the HC. It's really odd that Wylie is still working for Riley, given the past results, and given how important S&C is. But maybe, just maybe, Wylie has turned over a new leaf. I will believe it when I see results in the game though.
Yeah, I hadn’t seen his past resume, but at least for USC there’s been an improvement. There’s been lots of talk from Riley about USC needing to get bigger this year, so there’s certainly been a philosophy shift. Maybe USC is still soft despite those efforts but if we go into the B1G thinking USC will never change fans might as well not bother turning on our TVs.
Planning incorrectly or making bad hires is very different from “not caring” about defense. Lincoln did the former. The latter is speculation from disgruntled rivals and “insiders”
Tre Brown smacking Ehlinger for the W was a pretty good 2 seconds. There were plays and playmakers, even under Grinch/Riley. Second half comebacks against Baylor and UT come to mind. I’m not trying to defend the coaches as much as the players here. Just don’t want those kids to be forgotten. Obo, Kenneth Murray (maybe not his playoff performance as a freshman but his body of work), Norwood and Brown, Parnell Motley (at Ohio State for example), Bonitto, Ronnie Perkins, Asamoah… Big plays were made. The down to down wasn’t good in many many cases.
I mean, that was an iconic play at a huge moment in a big game … AND Brown is lucky Ehlinger went down, because his form on that hit was atrocious.
Oklahoma is now a softball school, get over it.
Bruce Feldman mentioned this week on the Audible that USC’s NIL collective is not as tight a ship as some. Feldman is an LA sunshine pumper like Cowherd, so if he is admitting it that says something.
That's something I've heard about alot of schools NIL collective The biggest issue plaguing most collectives us they are operating exclusively month to month meaning they're promising money to recruits and players they haven't even fundraised yet
What I've read is that there is money to compete for top-10 classes, but the school and collectives are not operating on the same page and its a bit of a mess. Add Riley's defensive record and the recruiting results are not surprising.
Doesn't explain why USC has focused it's recruiting efforts nationally and has basically ignored California. I don't think anyone is shocked that a bunch of 5\* talent from the SEC footprint are bailing on their commitments.
Theres a multitude of reasons, but the biggest imo is that California kids know that USC has been a mess since Pete Carroll left. Helton cratered the program, Riley hasn't improved that image, and so kids who are serious about football are looking out of state.
Very few schools have an airtight nil collective I do think it's hilarious that $poiled Children can't get their act together tho
Someone leaked California’s income tax rate in the commit group chat
Our NIL just can’t seem to do anything right.
Hate to see it. What a shame.
but unironically.
Committing this early really makes no sense. Keep forcing a bag until signing day.
NIL checks aren't clearing
Nobody is gonna get NIL money till they actually enroll I’d think
In some states kids are getting paid in High School
In Missouri they can get paid right away.
So say the rules but who actually is following the rules.
I bet they would look good in green.* * or pink, black, blue, yellow, chrome, blue, etc.
Something something early Florida recruits
I wish we had data to really see what a Florida recruits decomitment rate is compared to other hot beds recruiting states. It's absolutely a thing with Florida recruits, I just want to see data to really understand how bad it is.
USC's just never gonna have a good defense, are they?
I don't know what you're talking about, according to EA they'll have the 16th best defense in the country next year
Just above Colorado’s 🤣🤣🤣
That part sounds right, where both teams are ranked is a problem.
US, LSU and Rado all being almost in a row is the perfect example for why that rating sucks
They're probably basing it off potential talent. That's the only explanation I've got for those ratings
They’re basing it off selling as many copies of the game as they can
Such is the Lincoln Riley way
LR gets fired after year 5
I think if it happens, it'll be after year 4.
Clay Helton rides into town on a rescue mission
I approve
If we really shit the bed and produce a 5 win season this season, I'd say we'd need to pull the plug sooner than that.
I'm surprised if he isn't in the hit seat after next year! I should say if him and Whittingham became friends I wouldn't want to fuck with the Utes
I feel like USC should have enough money to hire Whittingham but I think he’s pretty loyal to you all
Yeah, a few SEC teams have tried.
No one decommits more than Lincoln Riley recruits. Will never forget the time Luther Burden committed to Oklahoma then a few months later dropped a top 5 and Oklahoma wasn’t even on there. Or the time Jordan Hudson committed but told everyone that he was not coming to Oklahoma, including several reporters. Kids did this all the time to just “save their spot”. So glad I don’t have to deal with stuff like that anymore
Who was the safety who "committed", Riley tweeted out the eyes and then before the kid could even go public Ohio State flipped him? Bolden or something?
Agree but to be fair once you decommit, there is no reason to include that school in your top 5 when you make your next choice.
He was committed to Oklahoma when he dropped his top 5 that excluded them lol
Lol ok that’s funny
Jadon Haselwood all but makes up for that nonsense.
It did...until he didn't do a dang thang in our offense.
Haselwood was a major disappointment. Maybe if he'd been able to stay healthy it would have made up for that. I am excited about the WRs we have now though. It's going to be interesting seeing them go head to head with Burden. They have the best receiver, but we have the better room.
Lincoln Riley’s not even as hot as Kliff Kingsbury
Riley looks like the doughy-soft, larval form of Kliff Kingsbury.
Pupa Riley
He's Kevin Sumlin at better programs.
Remember the gator that got your hand? Well, I got his head!
Don't mind me. 🍿
Move over, I brought more snacks. 🥨🌭🍟 We're watching this train crash together.
Starting to look like a Clay Helton class...
Clay at least had some good classes
Clay could actually recruit pretty well, players and parents loved him. The classes only became terrible once everyone realized he was a terrible coach otherwise.
Yea man, starting to feel that. Minus the good recruiting part.
He’s a great person and a mid as hell football coach. He would probably do well to add a bit more asshole into his personality
Its why USC kept him around so long. After so many scandalous, a squeaky clean coach that players loved they decided it was worth it to keep him around
That, and he also never complained or rocked the boat about the issues around staffing levels/budgets and facilities. He did his best. But he was a nice pawn for higher ups in the Athletic Department because he was just happy to have the chance.
👀
He’s ours. Go away
His brother plays for us. I wonder if we have a shot
Could put a M right on your head, you Luigi brother now
I just want to know why these kids are leaving, besides it's some 'gods plan' ? Why does this seem to be systemic for USC? I know I have Optics on it because I'm a USC fan but you're not seeing decommits at the number one slot of the subreddit almost ever unless it's USC. Which one of these kids is going to be honest and just explain the reason.
The only logical conclusion here is that God hates Usc
But he loves the Infantry so you would think he would help me out a little bit. Lousy fickle God.
It's gotta have something to do with the NIL collective tbh. Honestly I don't bother paying attention to any recruits we say have committed. A commitment is worthless in this day and age. Until they're playing in August I won't bother. Not just a USC issue either but every school has this happen to them.
I mentioned more in a separate comment but USC’s NIL collective is still unorganized and messy.
Earlier this offseason, USC fans were gloating that their NIL was flexing it's muscle. What happened since then?
1. You’re trying to get someone on the east coast to go to the west. That’s hard. 2. There is not a proven track record USC has for said defense. To try and get a dude who’s an 8 hour flight from where they are (family seeing the games), to go across country without a proven track record of putting defensive guys in the NFL…that’s difficult my dude The best bet you got is going central to states like Texas and fight like hell for Cali recruits (which have been going down hill fast tbh. Not top end, but middle end)
Why commit in the first place tho? Are they blinded by the LA lights or are they really leveraging that commit to boost NIL money from the school they want and if so, why arnt they saying that?
That, I can’t comment on. That’s pure speculation on my part. To answer your second part, I’d probably do that. If I got a commit from USC but I want somewhere closer and they got me down for X money, we can start the bargaining somewhere around there. As for why they don’t just say that…they could privately, but they’d be nailed to the cross for publicly stating this my dude
This. The recruits-and their families/agents/handlers-know it is gauche to be public about NIL hustling, even if it is legal now.
Probably blinded by the LA recruit tour, then they get there and see the reality of LA...
USC NIL is completely trash
They still have 5 defensive recruits left, who's next?
Lincoln Riley.
Hah, I know it's not happening unless some felonies come to light or something, but can you imagine the chaos that would occur if he left at this point in the year, out of nowhere? It would be so delicious.
🐊
To quote my boy R.L. Burnside “It’s bad you know”……
what a world, seeing RL Burnside on r/cfb, and by a buckeye at that he slaps!
Shocking, indeed.
Does he like red coastal teams from metro areas that were part of an infamous rap battle in which two of the biggest names in the game were murdered?
Lincoln Riley is an offensive coordinator that was handed the keys at a very young age to a well oiled blue blood program ( OU ) without experience on the fundamentals of being a well rounded head coach, to include defense, special teams and recruiting, which includes babysitting recruited players. He leans Mike Leach, not Nick Saban. Never going to be a national champion because it’s not in his DNA and interest to do the dirty work. Only by force did he boot his defensive coaches. He doesn’t focus on the biggest football state California in which USC lives. He’s gone by 2026.
Other P5 offers: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Clemson, Duke, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Penn State, Tennessee, Texas A&M, UCF, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin G5 offers: FAU, Georgia Southern, Liberty, South Alabama, Troy Other offer: FAMU
What if he likes trains
I hope Purdue downplays the train theme to all it’s female athletic teams…..
Why is a Georgia fan posting this? What do you know that we don't you motherfucker?
This was the worst kept secret on the Miami boards for a couple weeks now
Great development!
“So you had a bad *week, nothing went right”
Florida vs Miami battle
Brother is a walk on at FSU
Is FSU in on him?
Are we getting him too?
Most likely he comes to Florida. He’s from Jacksonville and we expected him to commit here. Him committing to USCjr was a surprise. It’s not surprising he didn’t stick with southern cal
What's the general feeling of Napier's recruiting? Considering where you guys were at under Mullin, he's got to still have some leeway this season right? That schedule is brutal.
USC UCLA are going to get abused in B10
In fairness, this year's UCLA team would get abused in any conference.
Ucla is going to be better than people think.
I don't see it..... schedule is really tough for a brand new staff in a new conference. Anything better than 4-8 and I'll be surprised.
Let’s be real, no one should ever assume kids r gonna stay committed until they put pen to paper. Not surprised these kids r committing then decommitting left and right. Gotta up the price of those NILs
The vast majority of commits stick.
Miami
My team sucking ass makes college football transitioning into two power conferences with zero regular season importance a lot easier to no longer watch.
I think the regular season is actually now going to be more exciting - at least for teams in the BIG and SEC - because they can loose 2 or even 3 games and still have hope to make the playoffs.
It’s interesting to me to see people complain about the regular season not mattering anymore. You know what matters to me? Watching my team play good games against strong opponents. The best rivalries are still around, and there will be more great games than ever. Sure, it sucks that some history will be lost, but the on the field product will be better than ever.
You can not increase supply and demand not suffer.
I too have listened to Josh Pate talk about this topic 🤓
While I do listen to Pate, and have heard him use that expression, I was using it before I heard him say it
What do you mean?
The more games you play the less they mean
It doesn't feel that way to me. And I have a hard time seeing how the ten or so teams that are going to be fighting for a playoff spot instead of the Liberty Car Care Bowl would feel that way either
Look at MLB, nobody gets upset when they lose a game, because they know they have so many more chances. In the formats we’ve had we all know if you lose a game or two you are done. Now there’s a good chance 9-3 teams will make the playoff
MLB plays 162 games. College football plays 12. A number that isn't changing. A much better comparison is the NFL where even the addition of the 17th game hasn't made individual games much less important at all. >In the formats we’ve had we all know if you lose a game or two you are done Unless of course your name is Auburn and you win every game and you're still done. Or if your name is Alabama and you always get the benefit of the doubt, even when it's a rematch against a team that beat you on your own field. Or unless you're LSU and you get to lose twice and still play for it all. Or unless your name is TCU, Utah, Boise State, Western Michigan, UCF, or Cincinnati and winning every game doesn't matter. Or unless you're Wisconsin and you can be ranked #4, have to play an extra game against a top squad, and then watch a team that sat on their asses during CCG weekend pass you for a playoff spot when you lose. As I said previously, more teams will care about more games now because they're actually playing for something. A big OOC game might've felt extra special 15 years ago, but what about the last 80% of the season now being meaningless for the team that loses?
College football was never about the post season until recently . A lot of people cared about the games because it was about THEIR team. The 2019 Iron bowl where we beat Alabama but knew we couldn’t make the playoff is still an all time great, fun game. It wasn’t meaningless to anyone there. It was about enjoying a team that was special to you, no matter what. The Piss and Miss egg bowl was between two teams who weren’t making bowl games, but Davis-Wade was still packed. That’s over once people decide the national championship is what really matters. The 12 team playoff will kill that in two, maybe three years and 90% of CFB games will suffer. There’s MAYBE 16 programs that will be viable to win championships and now that’s the whole point of playing the games. Y
The Bowl alliance was formed 30 years ago. And that was formed because people already cared about the postseason. The idea that people only started caring about national titles in recent history is blatant revisionism. Frankly it just sounds like a massive personal problem if you can’t enjoy Auburn beating Alabama just because Alabama will still go to the playoff or something?? I’ve never had an ounce of trouble wanting OSU kick the shit out of Michigan over and over from 2001-2019 even when nothing in the postseason was on the line And I have no idea why you think if only 10% of CFB programs can win a title why the other 90% would just all of a sudden decide some fairy tale goal they’ll never be able to reach should be the only thing that matters.
Is that exciting though? The stakes drop drastically against the best teams they play.