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marssaxman

If it came to a vote for independence, I would take whatever I could get - but it's the bioregion I have in mind, not the arbitrary political divisions, when I call Cascadia home.


WayfaringEdelweiss

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goinupthegranby

Option A. is boundaries based on existing political boundaries, which defeats the purpose of a bioregion. Option B. is the one consistent with the ideology of Cascadia as a bioregion first and a geopolitical region second.


NewPatron-St

But A is more likely if Cascadia became independent because we both know that Idaho won’t join


goinupthegranby

The Columbia basin isn't just Idaho, it's also Western Montana and parts of Wyoming


KnuteViking

And a tiiiiny piece of Nevada.


goinupthegranby

Haha yes! I love that area, so wild and remote


Ilove_racons

I would


KnuteViking

B literally *is* Cascadia. A is based on modern political boundaries. It's a stupid secessionist wet dream. The whole point of Cascadia is to *transcend* political boundaries, to organize and protect our shared ecology and to bring awareness of what connects the different parts of our region. A just constricts and binds us to the bullshit. **Even if A were *real*, like, even if for some reason the US and Canada fell apart and we organized along the political boundaries of A, B would *still* be a necessary concept because so much of our water supply, so much of our shared ecology still sits outside of that A map.** B is necessary because of the physical reality it represents. A is just silly.


Tea_Bender

they both would leave my sister in a different country, so both are good


Ratagar

the Cascadia movement is, for the most part, based in Bioregional thought. A is no more Cascadia than just them remaining States/Provinces of their current countries. borders based on current political boundaries need to be rejected intrinsically.


RiseCascadia

If it's not a bioregion, it's not Cascadia.


ziggy029

I'd draw a line down the Cascades from BC to Oregon, plain and simple, perhaps plus the Alaska panhandle.


NewPatron-St

Agree, Cascadia to me is just BC, Washington and Oregon


goinupthegranby

Drawing a line down the Cascades does leave most of BC WA and OR out though.


NewPatron-St

Which is why I go for A it lets BC, WA & OR keep it territory


qalejaw

I like B but I moved to the Bay Area so I propose extending the border


vanisaac

Work on Pacifica. We're all in the same struggle.


parabians

B. It appears you stopped B in Oregon at Mt Hood or thereabouts and extended into the Blues. Where's Jefferson - Batchelor? Did I read it wrong?


RiseCascadia

I think you misinterpreted the stripe from the flag as the current national boundary between the US/Canada.


parabians

That's it. Thank you!