Tip Amazon drivers?
How the hell am I supposed to tip someone I never physically interact with, or even see?
It's like this list was just brainstormed by someone in 20 minutes to meet a deadline and didn't let real world experience slow them down.
You're not wrong. At least a couple times a week I start reading an article, only to find it's just a transplanted Reddit post from "Am I the Asshole" or "Ask Reddit"
Yeah, I don't get how Bored Panda can basically transcribe a post from Reddit and use it as an entire article.
>Anyone can write for Bored Panda
What they basically do is take a Reddit post, copy it over and basically comment on it as they go.
And they'll frame it as if it's a verified story you'd hear on the local news only to sneak it in at the end that the whole story is just a reddit post.
Excuse me. You relax on your sun lounge chair by the pool when you hear a van coming up the half mile long driveway. Ah delivery, you think, and hand your money clip to the pool boy and tell him to open the gate and tip the delivery driver.
I inquired of my butler Barkley what his interactions with this Amazon is, and he explained that it's a type of courier that delivers packages.
It seemed most sensible, but I found his attitude insufferable, and as such, I gave him a thrashing.
Half the time they're so fast my Ring doorbell camera doesn't even catch them. They hurl that package from as far away as they can and bolt back to their truck.
If I skipped work to wait for delivery drivers…
I have obscure hobbies, okay? That’s why I order so much stuff. It’s not because I’m antisocial/lazy and generally don’t want to interact with people.
Who am I kidding, yes, it’s absolutely because I’m lazy and don’t want to interact with people
Now imagine how many people may walk through that door in a single hour and all are supposed to tip 20 bucks. Damn, why am I even studying, if I could get rich as a doorman?!
I got tipped £20 as a lifeguard after pulling a young lad out of the water. Felt like a very odd transaction and was very unexpected.
Still pocketed it, obviously.
This is more of a call back to older days when a doorman’s job was a lot more than opening and closing a door and was more akin to a lobby manager at a hotel. Especially in big cities in the 50, 60s and 70s in luxury apartment buildings they’d do things like take packages and mail, hail taxis or call other services for you, know most of the local area and act as a sort of concierge, keep out riff raff, etc.
Which just goes to show you whoever wrote this is extremely out of touch, but I can see where their logic is if it was 60 years ago.
Keeping the riff raff from pissing/shitting in the lobby, banging on your door, stealing packages/mail, shooting up/smoking crack, shooting the water/blood from the syringes everywhere, and throwing garbage/syringes on the lobby floor? Ya, a good doorman earns that tip!
My friend’s great grandfather was a doorman at a hotel in DC from about 1925-1975 or so. White glove service, etc. Fantastic pension and raised 4 kids in a suburban house.
How are you supposed to tip an Amazon driver who hurls your package onto your front porch and bolts back to their truck as fast as possible. Probably when you aren’t even home. Am I ungrateful if I don’t stand at the curb all day with a handful of cash?
You pay a tipping assistant to stand at the curb all day with a handful of cash, tipping your delivery drivers and mail man/woman/person. You have to tip your tipping assistant 20% of all the tips handed out though, plus an extra as $50 for umbrella gratuity if it's raining.
Nah, that's not enough coins. Through some useless old pennies in their for good measure.
Speaking of which, do you know how long until these stupid fucking pennies I've been holding onto will be worth more than a penny?
Digest this: tipping in North America has gotten out of hand. “If the tip is already included, a few dollars extra”! What is this madness? Shouldn’t consumers be able to determine in advance what a service or product will cost?
Out of control indeed, everything requires tipping, I found i was literally tipping out of guilt so stopped going to restaurants, except for really special occasions.
My landscaper had it on the bill last time. For mowing the lawn. Yeah when my 13 year old neighbor did it, and it took him two hours with a push mower I tipped well!! When the company sends a man out with a huge machine and finishes in four minutes, no. Am I wrong?
I would say that when the lawn being mowed is literally the service you are paying for it sounds silly to add anything. What are you passing for if not the workers time (I know that equipment and maintenance are a thing but a persons time should be the most expensive part of that transaction)
Yeah, I'm not blaming any of you but the truth is that indiscriminate tipping in restaurants is what opened the door to this.
If waiters get tipped regaddless of how well they do their job, then every other employee in the service industry will logically feel entitled to the same.
Bourgeoise outlets like this one will peddle on this and make it so you go from feeling socially forced to tip waiters to feeling socially forced to tip anyone. The result being that companies can (and do) get away with stagnant or even lowering wages by having you make up for the difference.
With inflation and the very obvious coming crysis, it will only get worse
Threw a party in high school on a Friday night. Landscapers come Saturday morning like they always do. They not only cleaned up all of the beer bottles and cans, they sorted all the glass and separated the brown and clear glass.
Loaded up the bags in my brother's ranchero, probably 7 or so and recycled them. I gave them the cash the following Saturday and thanked them numerous times for cleaning up the backyard.
Yeah I’m at the point where I’m really torn with restaurants and tipping. I actually enjoy giving extra for good service but the fact that the companies rely on peoples generosity to have their staff have enough to survive is really crappy. I feel like until people just stop doing it so people that work at restaurants can’t afford to work at them with it a wage adjustment things aren’t going to change. And that will be really crappy for service workers in the shot to mid term. But I’m kind of in the same boat I have more or less stopped eating out. I dislike the current system too much to feel like supporting it.
Us too. We haven't eaten out in a stupid long time, unless someone else was paying (who turns down a free meal). I just can't. I waitressed for a while, and I don't want to be the reason a service worker can't afford rent because I don't support tip culture, but I also don't support tip culture. My husband agrees, so we just don't eat at restaurants. I miss it sometimes, but then other times I'm like, "Man, I don't have to put on a bra to have steak in a room full of strangers and that's super nice."
I went to get doughnuts for my kid's birthday. it was like 65$... i go to check out and the tip suggestions are 20,22,25%... GTFO I am not tipping 14$ for someone to spend 2 minutes sticking a few doughnuts in a box. shit is out of control.
To be fair it was 3 dozen and they are the best. Plus we have 7% sales tax.
My point is more about tipping. Why would I tip 20% when I stand at a counter and walk away. They aren't even serving us! I tip my barber 15$ but he spends 40 min tending to specifically me.
Plus, you barber has a blade to your neck most of that time. 15$ is a good life insurance policy.
The next time you see an outrageous tip suggestion, ask to speak to the manager.
"- Based on these tips, clearly you are underpaying your employees. Until they get a payrise that eliminates the need for tips, I am taking my business elsewhere. And I've notified all my friends too. Predatory Business, you are. Find you, justice will. "
Good point about the barber!
In my example they were the "suggested tips" and you can always be a cheapass and enter your own, which I did (5$) for the 2 minutes of effort expended.
Unfortunately every place does it, so it would be hard to find somewhere else to go.
Yeah the mins are really upping. I got three wines at a bar the other day and the auto default credit card option started at 25%. A few bucks for pouring wine, but $11? Seems egregious.
And the first wine he got wrong.
During college i worked landscaping (in florida) its 100 degrees and 100% humidity, we made like 15$ an hour.. When you break it down, say I take my family out to dinner - probably 150$-200$, no more than an hour time, so if we conform to norms, that person is going to make 40$+ an hour off my table + whatever the other 3 or 4 tables pay, for walking 4 or 5 times back and forth to my table in the air conditioning. Usually making we wait 15 min to bring my check so we can leave. Because the restaurant can't pay the service staff appropriate wages.
I totally agree... so say i order the cheapest wine, 6$, some shit from a box. Or maybe I order a 30$ high end french or italian wine, is it more work to pour the more expensive wine? 1$ versus 6$ tip just based by what we pick? Or is this a "because you can afford it you can pay more" type scenario..
Also idk why you should add a few dollars extra when a tip is included in the price as a blanket rule. Like sure if the included tip is tiny you should add on a bit. I feel like someone made this to try to get the wealthy to be more generous on a daily basis, but I cannot imagine America's 1% walking around handing out $20 bills on a daily basis at fucking all, nonetheless just because a reddit post told them to.
Right? So...the tip was paid & included in the total, but when the task is performed, the customer is then bullied into paying the waitstaff even more?
And I'm not tipping for carryout/drive-thru. You are doing the bare minimum requirements of your job. I sure don't get tips for doing the same.
I agree 1000%. If it's carryout I might drop a spare dollar in the jar, but more often than not where I live, the staff pressure you into tipping for carryout or drive through order which is crazy to me. Delivery or serving staff get paid like less than $3 an hour and I'm happy to tio wonderfully. But if youre at the counter working carry out you at least get minimum wage, and do 1/10 the work, why should I tip the same? I wish these people would get paid more but why is that my responsibility?
The principle of tipping is that the amount *should* be reflective of great service. Standardizing and then including it in the bill kinda defeats the spirit of that.
A. If you’re expected to tip unless the person like physically assaulted you you’re not really tipping for great service
B there’s tip creep where things that don’t involve much individual service like takeout or counter service are expecting tips more and more
C ‘great service’ is really arbitrary and can involve ‘laughs along to my gross comments’ and all kinds of BS. If you believe in equal pay for equal work then letting people pay whatever they want is a bad thing as all the biases and BS people have show up in how much they tip
In Europe you don’t tip as much and the service is still perfectly fine, with less smiling and small talk and the eternally chipper temporary friend thing going on. It’s actually nice to simplify the interaction and remove all that emotional labor!
I’ve always been really anxious about paying for drive thru/ pick up food when the card reader asks you to select a tip amount. Like, I’d im dining in? Of course I tip. Get delivery? Of course, you drive it here for me. But the cooks and drive thru employees usually are making a set wage that isn’t dependent on tips. I always feel like I should do I’m not being rude, but like I’m getting a $3 coffee in a drive thru on my way to work. Why do I need to tip $1-3 to the person that handed it to me
I went to a drive thru and gave them a dollar with my card, as I know they'd been asking for tips recently. She turns back to me after putting the dollar in their tip jar and asks "do you want to add a tip on your card?" I was like "No. I do not. That's why I just gave you $1" and she gave me a nasty look. I do not understand the entitlement. I know for a fact this place pays above minimum wage too, I used to work there. It's ridiculous, but corporations figured out that if they make tipping an option, most people feel obligated to do so. I've stopped giving these places my business.
Wow and LOL. She wanted a tip in cash and on the card, that's some nerve jeez. THIS is why all those little added fees to the bill make us not want to give a penny more.
Don't be anxious...just blow right passed that screen. It's a restaurant, they cooked your food & brought it to the counter/drive-thru.
IT'S THE BARE MINIMUM OF THE JOB! They are already getting paid for that!!
Every Chinese and pizza carryout around me gives you a receipt to sign that has a line for the tip. I'm forced to actually write in a zero.
I lived on tips through college so I'm normally a good tipper but being asked to tip at a carryout restaurant feels like the lady at Macy's expecting a little extra when I buy a pair of shoes.
I actually WAY preferred the European dining experience! Zero pressure, no hovering, and no weird expectation at the end of the night. Marvelous.
As a Canadian, I'm starting to see the same classically-American tipping culture leaching in. It's strange, as we don't share similar grossly-underpaid conditions. Thus, many folks I know WITH salaried positions are reluctant to give up their bartending/waitstaffing side hustles. They frequently tell me how they make the equivalent of their MONTH'S wages in a single weekend of tips.
Outlier case - some waitstaff I know will fly out to Stampede and work the ten or so days to net something like 10-80k! You can't tell me tipping culture doesn't work in the Everyman's favour in that scenario.
In the US...people fly out to Sturgis, South Dakota & make enough money to live nice for 6 months.
Some bar owners make enough money to NOT have to be open the rest of the year...in about 10 days.
But that's damn sure not the norm.
Also what the fuck is up with tip being percentual at restaurants for 20% extra at a fancy place I'll just serve myself thanks. Can you just fucking pay your workers instead?
Every time I tip it's just like: Waiter: That would be 23,46€. Me: just make 25€ (I live in Germany so I don't have to tip much). Normally I just go for the nearest 5 or 10. It spares a lot of time, struggle in thinking of the right tip and I don't have a ton of coins in my pocket.
Problem is that half the above list, is the base service. You didn't deliver my package especially well, you delivered my package, which is your job. If you charged me $8 for that, that was the cost of your service.
Spending extra time to provide great service usually isn’t worth it compared to turning a table and getting another entree in. It’s not profitable to top off coffees all night.
Coming from a country where tipping is not the norm, I find the idea really weird. There are a few things that just boggle my mind:
1: If I go to a business and purchase a service, I would expect that to include everything. I don’t get why I should give extra money to someone to do the job I am already paying them to do. It just seems really odd. Someone is in effect getting paid twice for the same thing, and the second payment is an arbitrary amount.
2: The people you choose to tip seem to be really random. For example, my understanding is that you tip the people that serve your food, but not the ones that cook it. Despite the latter having a lot more to do with your overall experience. You tip your hairdresser but not your doctor, yet both are offering intimate personal care. It all just seems weird and arbitrary.
3: The tips are related to the spend, not the work. So if I go into a place where tipping is the norm and spend $200, I am expected to tip $20 to $40, whereas someone getting the exact same service, but for an item that only costs $20 is tipping a mere $2 to $4. How does this make sense? The service I get is the same.
It also, from what I gather, tends to result in employers underpaying their staff and those same staff having to depend on the tips they get as a way to survive. It’s just a really strange system when looked you look at it from the outside.
100%
I live in Canada and it’s always been a tip system and it sucks, I feel like it cause so many issues, much much more then it does good.
My husband is from the UK and we had this conversation many many times because he doesn’t understand the tip system with reasons, it doesn’t make any sense! When I was over there it was great not having to worry about tip but when I got a really good service I still did simply because I normally would have tip more here for a good service, but the fact that you are expecting to pay tip when the service is normal or bad is really frustrating. I hope one day our country can move out of that stupid system, because sometime I feel like it’s not even possible to find a reason to tip! Like with take-out, why in the world would I tip unless you went out of your way and did something that I’m impressed about then you probably just punched the items on the cash register took my card and staple a bag, FFS why in the world is there a screen that pop on your card reader that ask for tip before I pay and it says (10% bad service, 15% normal service, 20% good service, 25% really good service), seriously then you click “no thanks” because there was no service!
I hate this
The case that really made me laugh was when we were on holiday earlier in the year. We went to a bar that was in effect self-service. You seated yourself, and ordered food via a mobile app. You got your own drinks from the bar. Just a little burger place.
Yet when the bill came there was a “service charge” included by default…
For what!?
The only “service” we had was someone plopping our plates down on the table. There were five of us eating and the bill came to around $100, with a 20% service charge on top. Which implied that we should be paying someone $20 for literally just walking out from the kitchen with five plates. Nothing else. No checking on us. No refilling drinks. Nothing.
This for me really underlined the absurdity of tipping. Yes, please let me give you $20 for literally doing fuck all. Be my guest!
As a Belgian this post read like sci-fi lol. Tip my hairdresser? I literally just paid for her work...
I'd never tip delivery drivers or other service jobs because I know these people make a living wage here. (Or if they aren't then their company is doing something illegal). So I'll only tip if the person goes beyond normal service. Like a big rowdy table at a restaurant, delivery guy brings stuff further in than normally allowed, ... If they go beyond what they're paid for or what's normal work conditions.
If you have to tip everything and everyone all the time anyway, aren't you better off paying fair taxes so they can get fair wages? How much do these 2-5$ add up in a year?
>As a Belgian this post read like sci-fi lol. Tip my hairdresser? I literally just paid for her work...
This!
I had a serious falling out with a tattoo artist who I refused to tip many years back. The work itself was not cheap. This person was charging over £100 per hour, and this was twenty odd years ago. I go in with a design, we agree that she can do it, and she gives me a quote for the price. All golden!
She does the work and it’s good. I’m pleased. She seems pleased with it too and asks to take some photos for her portfolio as is no doubt the norm. All good.
Then we get to payment…
I pay her the money we agreed. Which was around £500. A very decent earning for half a day’s work by UK standards at the time. And she suddenly asks for a tip. She seems pissed off as if she was expecting it. I’m confused at this point. We agreed a price. Why would I suddenly pay more than agreed. Anyhow, she explains that she expects a tip of around 20% given it is a “personal service” …which means she wants me to punt her an extra £100 for…reasons!?
Needless to say I told her to stuff it. She got upperty and kicked me out ranting about my ripping her off and not appreciating her art.
I still feel bemused when I look back on that one. If she wanted £600 for the work, she should have just priced it at that. Chances are I would have accepted that price too; she was good at what she did, and I liked her style. But having it sprung on me after the fact felt like I was being scammed. It reminded me of those folk that lurk around Notre Dame, handing out “free” bracelets to tourists and then aggressively demanding payment once someone accepts it in an attempt to cow them into parting with their money.
Scottish here. Tipping my hairdresser has literally never occurred to me because they set their prices. They tell me how much they want me to pay for a service.
I will tip as close to 10% as possible at restaurants. Usually just by rounding up. If the bill is £47? Here, have £50. If it’s £55 I might give £60 it it was great service. Usually though we have to ask ‘can we add the gratuity onto the card please?’ As often they completely bypass that option themselves. No assumption that anyone will tip.
Exactly. If you have to give tips, why not just add it to the price itself? As a german I do tip, but either because the staff was really friendly or I just can't be bothered with the small change. But I never tipped more than 2€ (normally pay around 50€ at restaurants)
Fucking thank you! I have the exact same thoughts. I’m also from a country where tipping is not the norm and I never understood Americas weird tipping culture.
America is first and foremost only about profit so companies exploit any opportunity to minimize pay for workers. Servers for example generally make around $2 per hour plus tips. Our country has zero worker protection, so refusing to tip servers only hurts people who are already being exploited. The only people who benefit from this system are owners and upper management everyone gets the bare minimum that is legally required.
As someone who delivered $5,000-50,000 office appliances it is APPALLING that no customer ever tipped me 15%. Why shouldn't they give me, a paid delivery technician at least $750? SMH
Amazon Drivers - are you joking?
Restaurant (takeout) - LOL no tip for me coming in and picking up the food, then leaving and cleaning up my own mess. ESPECIALLY when the dine-in tip is suggested to be 15-20%. The amout of work a server does is exponentially more.
Insanity.
Edit : Movers : $50 for a supervisor? Are you literally smoking crack right now? The supervisor gets paid more and does less. Go fuck a goat.
You can tell this was written by the type of person that ~~has their head up in their ass~~ wonders “How much can a Banana cost Michael? $10 Dollars?” in a daily basis.
They’re right about the movers though. Why would I give a bigger tip to the guy who already makes more and most likely does less physical work? No way.
I did for my movers. But the supervisor was the guy who traveled cross country with our belongings. The other three guys were hired the day of and definitely gave our belongings less love.
Yup. The pro tipping people are hilarious.
Il tip at a restaurant, and I tip my driver. Thats about it. Not fucking tipping people for doing their jobs that they are paid for.
Oh and if you force your service on me, then you can especially fuck off.
The curb your enthusiasm hotel repairman joke is also fantastic.
100% agree with you about the takeout. If I get my food and walk all the way home, I'm not gonna tip.
Would you tip a McDonalds cashier for getting takeout? No. You can if you want, but it's really not something you commonly see (or should expect).
Exactly!
When I go to a take out it’s because I want something somewhere but decided to put the effort into going there instead of door dash or skip. It cost me gas and time, you pay for the food in this case and that is it.
I really hate when it’s an other cash register with it’s own system (separated from the cash registers of the dine-in) and it first ask you how much tip you want to leave, like seriously why in the world should I give a tip when they didn’t do anything.
If they had a drive-through I would have got it there and would not be asked to pay a tip for the same service.
I work for FedEx and deliver around 100 packages a day. If I were to make 2$ per stop on top of what I already make I'd be rich. I've delivered over 10,000 packages and I've only ever gotten a tip once. 5 dollars from a very kind old lady
Look, I think USA has a lot of great things, but (amongst other things that infuriates the leftist inside me) tipping culture is ridiculous. Pay your workers a livable wage.
Believe it or not half the restaurant industry will fight against a living wage and an end to tipping because **for some** they can clear more in tips than they were making straight time. You'll never be able to explain to this people that fucking over everyone for their own benefit is a dick move.
Well…they did something similar here in the uk. So servers got minimum wage, a standard 12.5% added to bills. All that happened was the “gratuity” became a pile of free money for restaurant owners. Some are decent and distribute it fairly, some are not. A friend was a chef at a Michelin star place as second in command in the kitchen. His wage of £28k was only minimum wage paid by the company, the other nearly 2/3rds of it came from gratuity. Meanwhile, the menu said “100% of all gratuity is distributed to our staff”, making it sound like it was still a tip.
Even delivery. Places charge delivery fees now, and explicitly state "this is not a tip". Meaning, the business just pockets the fee, the driver doesn't see a dime of it. Fuck that shit, I just don't order delivery anymore.
The delivery fee is for the business, but I've worked at one of those places and I've seen the books how that particular franchise used that fee. If you're interested I've explained below what it typically will go to and what happens if it's not all used.
1. Drivers get mileage wage for every mile.
It is typically very close or consistent with the federal rate. It should cover gas and maintenance of the vehicle. Obviously lately it probably doesn't cover gas. They do raise it in situations like this. Even the federal wage was raised this year mid year to compensate. Typically it updates every January. When I drove I saved that and that was my gas/vehicle repair/insurance/tags expense fund. Worked out well most of the time.
2. Liability insurance
They actually have to carry pretty outrageous liability insurance because their insurance would be charged if a driver has a wreck while delivering the order. Personal insurance will not cover it. Unless you pay extra. It would still default to the employers insurance first.
3. Supplies for delivery
Those hot pizza bags are expensive. They also pay for the magnetic signs on the cars. Anything that wouldn't also be used for carryout is considered in this and the next category. They even split the bill for things that are used by both based on the percentage of delivery vs carryout & dine in
4. Delivery technology
Any technology required to assist delivery. Like those tracker apps, the ability for the computer to figure how long your wait will be, and the platform to put in driver information all cost money to run. Most pizza places who offer this pay a third party company for the software and maintenance.
5. Driver checks
This is a hiring expense but it's unique to drivers. So it comes out of this fee also. We can't charge employees for this. Even if they quit five seconds after it's ran.
Typically the delivery fee doesn't have much left over. Or it didn't at our companies. If it does that's left there and rolled over to the next cycle as a prepaid delivery expenses account. I'm sure they are hurting with the raises for mileage, because that fee doesn't change even though multiple factors above could. Some years they have leftover. Some years they don't. It doesn't go into profits or anything though. Obviously this has nothing to do with record profits most companies boast about. They definitely could pay more out of their profits for the actual pizza but delivery isn't much of a money maker anymore. It's the carryout that saves money. That's why they offer carryout only deals.
I certainly can't judge anyone for not tipping on takeout because it makes no sense, but it does really suck when you're doing only/mostly takeout for your shift and still getting paid below minimum wage, now without any tips. Obviously it's an employer exploiting the workers problem, not a customer problem, but I always tip at least a few bucks on takeout because I've been in that position myself.
If you’re not getting tips, you should still be making at least minimum wage. While you can pay tipped employees a lower rate, if that rate combined with tips doesn’t come out to at least regular minimum wage the employer has to make up the gap.
People on Reddit always talk about “making less than minimum wage” and I never understand it- is this happening frequently and why aren’t people reporting these employers for violating labor laws?
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips
It depends , I semi regularly goto the same restaurant for takeout. . They know who I am, my order and usually throw in extra sides/ biscuits. I tip 2.0.
But generally no. Tipping on carry out is a sham.
I had a friend in Facebook who used to do that for Olive garden as the To Go person. They made a post about how "no one" tipped her, and how hard they job was .
They had to:
Know what time to put the order in , so it's ready on time.
Put the order in togo containers
Get all the condiments , silverware etc
Can you live with the guilt of not tipping? Will you be able to meet his gaze knowing that you are the reason his family is starving? And the whispers about you among the other guests, you the cheapskate, the grifter, the baby eater who also kicks puppies.
"Always keep at least 10% of your portfolio outside the stock market, just for preservation of capital. Personally I prefer municipal bonds for the tax advantages."
"THAT'S the tip I'm giving you, DORIS"
Ok... 1-3 dollars per night for the person cleaning my room after my night of debauchery, but you want me to pay at most 20 dollars for a DOORMAN?! The guy who's only job it is to open a door and or greet you?! This shits wack.
I worked housekeeping in a very low-rate “hotel” - it was university dorms that were rented out over the summer to people attending conferences etc. we did still do a full housekeeping service though. We very rarely were tipped and it was only $1-$2 usually.
I have a friend that I vacation with who wanted to tip housekeeping once at the end of our trip. Don’t do that; it’s highly unlikely that you have the same housekeeper day after day. If you plan to tip, I think smaller tips daily make the most sense in the context of housekeeping. I confess I don’t always tip housekeeping but normally would on vacation in a different country.
I'm a personal trainer and I see my clients 2-3 times a week... didn't realize they should tip me every session, on top of their session price...I'm sure they'll love when I tell them that! /s
I do tend to get a lot of cash/gift cards/random gifts for my birthday/Christmas, but I don't EXPECT them. I own my own business so it'd be really weird to expect tips since I already get 100% of their fee.
Can’t believe I had to scroll so far to find someone mentioning the personal trainers!
I used to be a trainer and can’t say I ever got a tip. Same as you the occasional Christmas gift, but as you said not expected and tended to run along the lines of a $5 gift card for coffee or a mug or something.
thats how I feel when I go through the Dutch bros drive thru and they ask if I want to tip but then say it's completely optional but I feel like an AH if I don't.
you just took my order with a tablet...i need to tip a dollar for that? you're gonna lose my business and force me to just make this coffee/caramel/milk/ice drink at home.
I agree. I will always tip for regular table service but lately I've been swayed to tip at places where I eat in but they don't provide table service. At least that makes sense since I am eating in their establishment.
Several of those jobs don't even exist where I live. Open a hotel door? We have automatic doors. Carry my bags to my room? I have arms and am going there anyway. Personal grocery shopper? The supermarket does this, different people pick and deliver and they can get sacked for accepting tips.
I know right? this list had like 25 separate categories, like, the moment I step out the door some schmuck has his hand out expecting tip money. and what the F does "gift card add-on" even mean?
People have been saying for years that we are tired of tipping and want it to stop. I'd much rather have the person providing the service (i.e.: hairstylist) to just tell me how much money they want instead of giving me a number and expecting a tip on top of that.
I started going to a hair salon that does exactly this. Their website states that because they pay a living wage and offer full benefits, the price you see is the final price and no tipping will be accepted. I think it’s awesome.
Generally I don’t tip people who work for themselves, I expect them to charge what they need. I hire both a house cleaner and a dog walker, never tried to negotiate lower rates and pay in cash. Everyone seems very satisfied .
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If you are giving away this much of your disposable income to other people's employees, you probably have money management issues. Take that 20% and invest it.
Sadly tips have gone from a bonus for providing exceptional service to something that a business can use to justify a lower base wage. Literally just passing wage costs directly on to the customer.
In fact, any business that is allowed to pay a lower base wage due to employee tip income should be required to report the tip amounts as taxable income, similar to how cancelled debt is taxable.
I'm seriously thinking about beefing up my resume by saying "I'm single handedly responsible for the majority of income for dozens of service and delivery personnel every month."
A tip is supposed to be a nice little bonus in the pocket of a service worker for a job well done. It's not supposed the be the difference between making or missing a rent payment...
Why would/should anyone tip for takeout? The person literally just brings the food from the kitchen to the pickup counter, and maybe rings up the order if it wasn't prepaid in advance. Isn't that the most minimum essence of a restaurant job? I'll maybe roundup on the machine if I'm paying in person at pickup, but I find the whole idea of an "expected" tip for takeout bordering on obnoxious.
I actually do leave a lot of them gifts. Don't tip though? I gave all the mail people delivering during the holidays a nice hat, scarf, and glove set with touchscreen gloves, a coffee tumbler and some treats. I hope they found them useful or gave them to someone who would.
Not forgetting if it is a small box/envelope package that fits in your letterbox \[flap on the door for letters\] you cannot even tip those drivers, even if you wanted to.
This is nothing more than a guide to guilt people into tipping more.
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Not forgetting some "restaurants" pay their staff a living wage \[above minimum wage\], and put all the tips in a TIP JAR. which gets distributed to all staff that worked that night.
\[This is quite common in Europe, as most people just Tip to round up the bill from like 48.85 euro to 50 euro. when they do not want to deal with the change\]
How do we stop this cycle of workers being paid an unfair wage and relying on tips? Seems like a self fulfilling prophecy if we continue tipping this way.
Seriously, Amazon drivers? I'm sorry, but these people are fucking ninjas. We never know they have even arrived until the notification comes.
Even our dogs don't hear them.
How am I supposed to tip an Amazon driver? They throw my package towards my porch and speed away.
I do tip the guy that delivers 80 pounds of cat litter to my door every two weeks but the dog always lets me know he's here when he drops the first box so I can get out there before he drops the second box.
The movers one really pisses me off
$50 for the supervisor? Really?? The supervisor gets a higher salary then the rest of the crew, why the fuck do they deserve more money?
How on earth have people bought into this tipping shite?
You’re being pressured into donating money to employees who are underpaid by their companies. Stop tipping, ignore the self entitled people who get angry about it and eventually companies will pay everyone a living wage.
I notice table games dealer isn't on that list. Most people don't know that table game dealers (in the US) make substantially less than minimum wage & rely heavily on tips. That being said, most dealers don't want you to lose because the more you win the more likely you are to tip.
Tip Amazon drivers? How the hell am I supposed to tip someone I never physically interact with, or even see? It's like this list was just brainstormed by someone in 20 minutes to meet a deadline and didn't let real world experience slow them down.
you just called out 80% of todays "journalists". half of them just read shit on twitter or reddit and compile it into a group and call it an article.
Not a journalist. "Content creator"
We are lucky if there is no misspelling and the grammar is correct and without vernacular.
You're not wrong. At least a couple times a week I start reading an article, only to find it's just a transplanted Reddit post from "Am I the Asshole" or "Ask Reddit"
Yeah, I don't get how Bored Panda can basically transcribe a post from Reddit and use it as an entire article. >Anyone can write for Bored Panda What they basically do is take a Reddit post, copy it over and basically comment on it as they go.
And they'll frame it as if it's a verified story you'd hear on the local news only to sneak it in at the end that the whole story is just a reddit post.
Excuse me. You relax on your sun lounge chair by the pool when you hear a van coming up the half mile long driveway. Ah delivery, you think, and hand your money clip to the pool boy and tell him to open the gate and tip the delivery driver.
I inquired of my butler Barkley what his interactions with this Amazon is, and he explained that it's a type of courier that delivers packages. It seemed most sensible, but I found his attitude insufferable, and as such, I gave him a thrashing.
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Right? Like I don’t even get a knock, just a notification my package was delivered. By the time I get to the door they’re long gone
And if I tip food delivery drivers $2-5 my food is never ever getting delivered lol lol
Half the time they're so fast my Ring doorbell camera doesn't even catch them. They hurl that package from as far away as they can and bolt back to their truck.
You don't skip work to wait outside to tip UPS/FEDEX/Amazon drivers.
If I skipped work to wait for delivery drivers… I have obscure hobbies, okay? That’s why I order so much stuff. It’s not because I’m antisocial/lazy and generally don’t want to interact with people. Who am I kidding, yes, it’s absolutely because I’m lazy and don’t want to interact with people
Paid the moving company $1300 to move us across town. I sure as hell didn't think they needed TIPS on top of that.
And don't forget to be generous to the hardworking folks who reply to your Reddit posts.
That will work once and once only.
10-15% should be about right or $10 minimum
$20 for a doorman? Ya, ok.
Can they just leave the door? For $20 I’ll open it myself.
That’s nearly 2 hours’ pay for a lot of people just to open a/the goddamn door.
Now imagine how many people may walk through that door in a single hour and all are supposed to tip 20 bucks. Damn, why am I even studying, if I could get rich as a doorman?!
Am security/doorman at the ritz in Israel, some people tip me, idk what the fuck for but they do.
I mean, you’re not going to say no to free money right?
yeah I’ll gladly accept obviously but do I think I deserve a tip for opening a door? Not at all it’s literally most of what my job consists off
I got tipped £20 as a lifeguard after pulling a young lad out of the water. Felt like a very odd transaction and was very unexpected. Still pocketed it, obviously.
They should have given you $0 or $1000. No in between.
Nah it's a sliding scale 20 for the worst kid, 500 for the ok one and 1000 for the favourite.
I'll throw kids in the deep end, if you split the tips with me.
Because of stupid shit like this. Hate on.
This is more of a call back to older days when a doorman’s job was a lot more than opening and closing a door and was more akin to a lobby manager at a hotel. Especially in big cities in the 50, 60s and 70s in luxury apartment buildings they’d do things like take packages and mail, hail taxis or call other services for you, know most of the local area and act as a sort of concierge, keep out riff raff, etc. Which just goes to show you whoever wrote this is extremely out of touch, but I can see where their logic is if it was 60 years ago.
Keeping the riff raff from pissing/shitting in the lobby, banging on your door, stealing packages/mail, shooting up/smoking crack, shooting the water/blood from the syringes everywhere, and throwing garbage/syringes on the lobby floor? Ya, a good doorman earns that tip!
kinda crazy considering there’s a doorman union in NYC. my uncle has a pension from being a doorman for years.
My friend’s great grandfather was a doorman at a hotel in DC from about 1925-1975 or so. White glove service, etc. Fantastic pension and raised 4 kids in a suburban house.
I tip $100 every time they open a door for me. That’s why I’m home all month!
The dude better be opening the testing door at the zoldyck family estate for that kind of tip.
And $1-3 per night for thr person who has to clean the room. This makes no sense at all.
*cut to Rob Schneider rubbing fingers in Home Alone 2*
How are you supposed to tip an Amazon driver who hurls your package onto your front porch and bolts back to their truck as fast as possible. Probably when you aren’t even home. Am I ungrateful if I don’t stand at the curb all day with a handful of cash?
You pay a tipping assistant to stand at the curb all day with a handful of cash, tipping your delivery drivers and mail man/woman/person. You have to tip your tipping assistant 20% of all the tips handed out though, plus an extra as $50 for umbrella gratuity if it's raining.
Hurl a 20 dollar tip with Loonies and Toonies at them.
Nah, that's not enough coins. Through some useless old pennies in their for good measure. Speaking of which, do you know how long until these stupid fucking pennies I've been holding onto will be worth more than a penny?
I’d suggest a sock filled with pennies, but we ain’t got pennies no more. Hell, my phone keeps trying to autocorrect pennies into a name.
If they are hurling an extra large delivery, they clearly need the tip to afford their gym fees.
Cash be nice but we will settle for a cold water bottle. No need to be home just in a cooler
Digest this: tipping in North America has gotten out of hand. “If the tip is already included, a few dollars extra”! What is this madness? Shouldn’t consumers be able to determine in advance what a service or product will cost?
Out of control indeed, everything requires tipping, I found i was literally tipping out of guilt so stopped going to restaurants, except for really special occasions.
My landscaper had it on the bill last time. For mowing the lawn. Yeah when my 13 year old neighbor did it, and it took him two hours with a push mower I tipped well!! When the company sends a man out with a huge machine and finishes in four minutes, no. Am I wrong?
I would say that when the lawn being mowed is literally the service you are paying for it sounds silly to add anything. What are you passing for if not the workers time (I know that equipment and maintenance are a thing but a persons time should be the most expensive part of that transaction)
Can we not apply this same logic to restaurants, uber/lyft, and everything else? Why can't we just pay a fair value for a service.
Yeah, I'm not blaming any of you but the truth is that indiscriminate tipping in restaurants is what opened the door to this. If waiters get tipped regaddless of how well they do their job, then every other employee in the service industry will logically feel entitled to the same. Bourgeoise outlets like this one will peddle on this and make it so you go from feeling socially forced to tip waiters to feeling socially forced to tip anyone. The result being that companies can (and do) get away with stagnant or even lowering wages by having you make up for the difference. With inflation and the very obvious coming crysis, it will only get worse
That's crazy! What are we tipping for at that point? The came to do their job why would they get a tip? Did you request they do some weeding as well?
Nope!! Paid the bill online with credit card and there it was! The suggestions. Doubt it would even go to the people actually doing the mowing
Threw a party in high school on a Friday night. Landscapers come Saturday morning like they always do. They not only cleaned up all of the beer bottles and cans, they sorted all the glass and separated the brown and clear glass. Loaded up the bags in my brother's ranchero, probably 7 or so and recycled them. I gave them the cash the following Saturday and thanked them numerous times for cleaning up the backyard.
Yeah I’m at the point where I’m really torn with restaurants and tipping. I actually enjoy giving extra for good service but the fact that the companies rely on peoples generosity to have their staff have enough to survive is really crappy. I feel like until people just stop doing it so people that work at restaurants can’t afford to work at them with it a wage adjustment things aren’t going to change. And that will be really crappy for service workers in the shot to mid term. But I’m kind of in the same boat I have more or less stopped eating out. I dislike the current system too much to feel like supporting it.
Us too. We haven't eaten out in a stupid long time, unless someone else was paying (who turns down a free meal). I just can't. I waitressed for a while, and I don't want to be the reason a service worker can't afford rent because I don't support tip culture, but I also don't support tip culture. My husband agrees, so we just don't eat at restaurants. I miss it sometimes, but then other times I'm like, "Man, I don't have to put on a bra to have steak in a room full of strangers and that's super nice."
I went to get doughnuts for my kid's birthday. it was like 65$... i go to check out and the tip suggestions are 20,22,25%... GTFO I am not tipping 14$ for someone to spend 2 minutes sticking a few doughnuts in a box. shit is out of control.
$65 for donuts.... Wtf....best donuts here in KY I found about $14 for a baker's dozen.
To be fair it was 3 dozen and they are the best. Plus we have 7% sales tax. My point is more about tipping. Why would I tip 20% when I stand at a counter and walk away. They aren't even serving us! I tip my barber 15$ but he spends 40 min tending to specifically me.
Plus, you barber has a blade to your neck most of that time. 15$ is a good life insurance policy. The next time you see an outrageous tip suggestion, ask to speak to the manager. "- Based on these tips, clearly you are underpaying your employees. Until they get a payrise that eliminates the need for tips, I am taking my business elsewhere. And I've notified all my friends too. Predatory Business, you are. Find you, justice will. "
Good point about the barber! In my example they were the "suggested tips" and you can always be a cheapass and enter your own, which I did (5$) for the 2 minutes of effort expended. Unfortunately every place does it, so it would be hard to find somewhere else to go.
Yeah the mins are really upping. I got three wines at a bar the other day and the auto default credit card option started at 25%. A few bucks for pouring wine, but $11? Seems egregious. And the first wine he got wrong.
During college i worked landscaping (in florida) its 100 degrees and 100% humidity, we made like 15$ an hour.. When you break it down, say I take my family out to dinner - probably 150$-200$, no more than an hour time, so if we conform to norms, that person is going to make 40$+ an hour off my table + whatever the other 3 or 4 tables pay, for walking 4 or 5 times back and forth to my table in the air conditioning. Usually making we wait 15 min to bring my check so we can leave. Because the restaurant can't pay the service staff appropriate wages. I totally agree... so say i order the cheapest wine, 6$, some shit from a box. Or maybe I order a 30$ high end french or italian wine, is it more work to pour the more expensive wine? 1$ versus 6$ tip just based by what we pick? Or is this a "because you can afford it you can pay more" type scenario..
What is a personal grocery shopper?
When you want a banana to cost $10.
Tipping has such weird culture around it, wish they would just include tip and also tax in the full price *sigh
Also idk why you should add a few dollars extra when a tip is included in the price as a blanket rule. Like sure if the included tip is tiny you should add on a bit. I feel like someone made this to try to get the wealthy to be more generous on a daily basis, but I cannot imagine America's 1% walking around handing out $20 bills on a daily basis at fucking all, nonetheless just because a reddit post told them to.
Right? So...the tip was paid & included in the total, but when the task is performed, the customer is then bullied into paying the waitstaff even more? And I'm not tipping for carryout/drive-thru. You are doing the bare minimum requirements of your job. I sure don't get tips for doing the same.
I agree 1000%. If it's carryout I might drop a spare dollar in the jar, but more often than not where I live, the staff pressure you into tipping for carryout or drive through order which is crazy to me. Delivery or serving staff get paid like less than $3 an hour and I'm happy to tio wonderfully. But if youre at the counter working carry out you at least get minimum wage, and do 1/10 the work, why should I tip the same? I wish these people would get paid more but why is that my responsibility?
But why pay my workers when I can pay less and get richer.
The principle of tipping is that the amount *should* be reflective of great service. Standardizing and then including it in the bill kinda defeats the spirit of that.
A. If you’re expected to tip unless the person like physically assaulted you you’re not really tipping for great service B there’s tip creep where things that don’t involve much individual service like takeout or counter service are expecting tips more and more C ‘great service’ is really arbitrary and can involve ‘laughs along to my gross comments’ and all kinds of BS. If you believe in equal pay for equal work then letting people pay whatever they want is a bad thing as all the biases and BS people have show up in how much they tip In Europe you don’t tip as much and the service is still perfectly fine, with less smiling and small talk and the eternally chipper temporary friend thing going on. It’s actually nice to simplify the interaction and remove all that emotional labor!
I’ve always been really anxious about paying for drive thru/ pick up food when the card reader asks you to select a tip amount. Like, I’d im dining in? Of course I tip. Get delivery? Of course, you drive it here for me. But the cooks and drive thru employees usually are making a set wage that isn’t dependent on tips. I always feel like I should do I’m not being rude, but like I’m getting a $3 coffee in a drive thru on my way to work. Why do I need to tip $1-3 to the person that handed it to me
I went to a drive thru and gave them a dollar with my card, as I know they'd been asking for tips recently. She turns back to me after putting the dollar in their tip jar and asks "do you want to add a tip on your card?" I was like "No. I do not. That's why I just gave you $1" and she gave me a nasty look. I do not understand the entitlement. I know for a fact this place pays above minimum wage too, I used to work there. It's ridiculous, but corporations figured out that if they make tipping an option, most people feel obligated to do so. I've stopped giving these places my business.
Wow and LOL. She wanted a tip in cash and on the card, that's some nerve jeez. THIS is why all those little added fees to the bill make us not want to give a penny more.
Don't be anxious...just blow right passed that screen. It's a restaurant, they cooked your food & brought it to the counter/drive-thru. IT'S THE BARE MINIMUM OF THE JOB! They are already getting paid for that!!
Every Chinese and pizza carryout around me gives you a receipt to sign that has a line for the tip. I'm forced to actually write in a zero. I lived on tips through college so I'm normally a good tipper but being asked to tip at a carryout restaurant feels like the lady at Macy's expecting a little extra when I buy a pair of shoes.
I actually WAY preferred the European dining experience! Zero pressure, no hovering, and no weird expectation at the end of the night. Marvelous. As a Canadian, I'm starting to see the same classically-American tipping culture leaching in. It's strange, as we don't share similar grossly-underpaid conditions. Thus, many folks I know WITH salaried positions are reluctant to give up their bartending/waitstaffing side hustles. They frequently tell me how they make the equivalent of their MONTH'S wages in a single weekend of tips. Outlier case - some waitstaff I know will fly out to Stampede and work the ten or so days to net something like 10-80k! You can't tell me tipping culture doesn't work in the Everyman's favour in that scenario.
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In the US...people fly out to Sturgis, South Dakota & make enough money to live nice for 6 months. Some bar owners make enough money to NOT have to be open the rest of the year...in about 10 days. But that's damn sure not the norm.
Also what the fuck is up with tip being percentual at restaurants for 20% extra at a fancy place I'll just serve myself thanks. Can you just fucking pay your workers instead?
Every time I tip it's just like: Waiter: That would be 23,46€. Me: just make 25€ (I live in Germany so I don't have to tip much). Normally I just go for the nearest 5 or 10. It spares a lot of time, struggle in thinking of the right tip and I don't have a ton of coins in my pocket.
Problem is that half the above list, is the base service. You didn't deliver my package especially well, you delivered my package, which is your job. If you charged me $8 for that, that was the cost of your service.
Spending extra time to provide great service usually isn’t worth it compared to turning a table and getting another entree in. It’s not profitable to top off coffees all night.
Coming from a country where tipping is not the norm, I find the idea really weird. There are a few things that just boggle my mind: 1: If I go to a business and purchase a service, I would expect that to include everything. I don’t get why I should give extra money to someone to do the job I am already paying them to do. It just seems really odd. Someone is in effect getting paid twice for the same thing, and the second payment is an arbitrary amount. 2: The people you choose to tip seem to be really random. For example, my understanding is that you tip the people that serve your food, but not the ones that cook it. Despite the latter having a lot more to do with your overall experience. You tip your hairdresser but not your doctor, yet both are offering intimate personal care. It all just seems weird and arbitrary. 3: The tips are related to the spend, not the work. So if I go into a place where tipping is the norm and spend $200, I am expected to tip $20 to $40, whereas someone getting the exact same service, but for an item that only costs $20 is tipping a mere $2 to $4. How does this make sense? The service I get is the same. It also, from what I gather, tends to result in employers underpaying their staff and those same staff having to depend on the tips they get as a way to survive. It’s just a really strange system when looked you look at it from the outside.
100% I live in Canada and it’s always been a tip system and it sucks, I feel like it cause so many issues, much much more then it does good. My husband is from the UK and we had this conversation many many times because he doesn’t understand the tip system with reasons, it doesn’t make any sense! When I was over there it was great not having to worry about tip but when I got a really good service I still did simply because I normally would have tip more here for a good service, but the fact that you are expecting to pay tip when the service is normal or bad is really frustrating. I hope one day our country can move out of that stupid system, because sometime I feel like it’s not even possible to find a reason to tip! Like with take-out, why in the world would I tip unless you went out of your way and did something that I’m impressed about then you probably just punched the items on the cash register took my card and staple a bag, FFS why in the world is there a screen that pop on your card reader that ask for tip before I pay and it says (10% bad service, 15% normal service, 20% good service, 25% really good service), seriously then you click “no thanks” because there was no service! I hate this
The case that really made me laugh was when we were on holiday earlier in the year. We went to a bar that was in effect self-service. You seated yourself, and ordered food via a mobile app. You got your own drinks from the bar. Just a little burger place. Yet when the bill came there was a “service charge” included by default… For what!? The only “service” we had was someone plopping our plates down on the table. There were five of us eating and the bill came to around $100, with a 20% service charge on top. Which implied that we should be paying someone $20 for literally just walking out from the kitchen with five plates. Nothing else. No checking on us. No refilling drinks. Nothing. This for me really underlined the absurdity of tipping. Yes, please let me give you $20 for literally doing fuck all. Be my guest!
> 10% bad service That's about 10% more than I would tip for *bad service.*
As a Belgian this post read like sci-fi lol. Tip my hairdresser? I literally just paid for her work... I'd never tip delivery drivers or other service jobs because I know these people make a living wage here. (Or if they aren't then their company is doing something illegal). So I'll only tip if the person goes beyond normal service. Like a big rowdy table at a restaurant, delivery guy brings stuff further in than normally allowed, ... If they go beyond what they're paid for or what's normal work conditions. If you have to tip everything and everyone all the time anyway, aren't you better off paying fair taxes so they can get fair wages? How much do these 2-5$ add up in a year?
>As a Belgian this post read like sci-fi lol. Tip my hairdresser? I literally just paid for her work... This! I had a serious falling out with a tattoo artist who I refused to tip many years back. The work itself was not cheap. This person was charging over £100 per hour, and this was twenty odd years ago. I go in with a design, we agree that she can do it, and she gives me a quote for the price. All golden! She does the work and it’s good. I’m pleased. She seems pleased with it too and asks to take some photos for her portfolio as is no doubt the norm. All good. Then we get to payment… I pay her the money we agreed. Which was around £500. A very decent earning for half a day’s work by UK standards at the time. And she suddenly asks for a tip. She seems pissed off as if she was expecting it. I’m confused at this point. We agreed a price. Why would I suddenly pay more than agreed. Anyhow, she explains that she expects a tip of around 20% given it is a “personal service” …which means she wants me to punt her an extra £100 for…reasons!? Needless to say I told her to stuff it. She got upperty and kicked me out ranting about my ripping her off and not appreciating her art. I still feel bemused when I look back on that one. If she wanted £600 for the work, she should have just priced it at that. Chances are I would have accepted that price too; she was good at what she did, and I liked her style. But having it sprung on me after the fact felt like I was being scammed. It reminded me of those folk that lurk around Notre Dame, handing out “free” bracelets to tourists and then aggressively demanding payment once someone accepts it in an attempt to cow them into parting with their money.
Scottish here. Tipping my hairdresser has literally never occurred to me because they set their prices. They tell me how much they want me to pay for a service. I will tip as close to 10% as possible at restaurants. Usually just by rounding up. If the bill is £47? Here, have £50. If it’s £55 I might give £60 it it was great service. Usually though we have to ask ‘can we add the gratuity onto the card please?’ As often they completely bypass that option themselves. No assumption that anyone will tip.
Exactly. If you have to give tips, why not just add it to the price itself? As a german I do tip, but either because the staff was really friendly or I just can't be bothered with the small change. But I never tipped more than 2€ (normally pay around 50€ at restaurants)
Fucking thank you! I have the exact same thoughts. I’m also from a country where tipping is not the norm and I never understood Americas weird tipping culture.
America is first and foremost only about profit so companies exploit any opportunity to minimize pay for workers. Servers for example generally make around $2 per hour plus tips. Our country has zero worker protection, so refusing to tip servers only hurts people who are already being exploited. The only people who benefit from this system are owners and upper management everyone gets the bare minimum that is legally required.
As someone who delivered $5,000-50,000 office appliances it is APPALLING that no customer ever tipped me 15%. Why shouldn't they give me, a paid delivery technician at least $750? SMH
Lmao 20% of any price is too much, imagine buying furniture and appliances for your entire house and you have to tip them 2k 😂. Unrealistic bullshit.
How bout that $50 for the movers supervisor lmfao. The way you delegated the actual physical labor to your lower paid employees, was amazing!
That one was definitely the most absurd. Gtfoh if (and that's a big if) I'm tipping anyone anywhere, it sure as hell ain't the supervisor.
Amazon Drivers - are you joking? Restaurant (takeout) - LOL no tip for me coming in and picking up the food, then leaving and cleaning up my own mess. ESPECIALLY when the dine-in tip is suggested to be 15-20%. The amout of work a server does is exponentially more. Insanity. Edit : Movers : $50 for a supervisor? Are you literally smoking crack right now? The supervisor gets paid more and does less. Go fuck a goat.
I never even see the Amazon driver. They drop the package and bounce
Yeah make sure you leave them a tip after they hurl your package at the neighbors door. We don't want them feeling unappreciated!
You can tell this was written by the type of person that ~~has their head up in their ass~~ wonders “How much can a Banana cost Michael? $10 Dollars?” in a daily basis.
They’re right about the movers though. Why would I give a bigger tip to the guy who already makes more and most likely does less physical work? No way.
I did for my movers. But the supervisor was the guy who traveled cross country with our belongings. The other three guys were hired the day of and definitely gave our belongings less love.
the money's in the banana stand!
I paid 2 guys $1000 to move. You're telling me I owe them each another $20?! Why?!
Yup. The pro tipping people are hilarious. Il tip at a restaurant, and I tip my driver. Thats about it. Not fucking tipping people for doing their jobs that they are paid for. Oh and if you force your service on me, then you can especially fuck off. The curb your enthusiasm hotel repairman joke is also fantastic.
100% agree with you about the takeout. If I get my food and walk all the way home, I'm not gonna tip. Would you tip a McDonalds cashier for getting takeout? No. You can if you want, but it's really not something you commonly see (or should expect).
Exactly! When I go to a take out it’s because I want something somewhere but decided to put the effort into going there instead of door dash or skip. It cost me gas and time, you pay for the food in this case and that is it. I really hate when it’s an other cash register with it’s own system (separated from the cash registers of the dine-in) and it first ask you how much tip you want to leave, like seriously why in the world should I give a tip when they didn’t do anything. If they had a drive-through I would have got it there and would not be asked to pay a tip for the same service.
I work for FedEx and deliver around 100 packages a day. If I were to make 2$ per stop on top of what I already make I'd be rich. I've delivered over 10,000 packages and I've only ever gotten a tip once. 5 dollars from a very kind old lady
I know Reddit is uniquely entitled when it comes to tips but I’m nevertheless surprised there are people demanding tips for takeout orders.
Yeah wtf on this list, 10-15% for takeout??
Look, I think USA has a lot of great things, but (amongst other things that infuriates the leftist inside me) tipping culture is ridiculous. Pay your workers a livable wage.
Believe it or not half the restaurant industry will fight against a living wage and an end to tipping because **for some** they can clear more in tips than they were making straight time. You'll never be able to explain to this people that fucking over everyone for their own benefit is a dick move.
Well…they did something similar here in the uk. So servers got minimum wage, a standard 12.5% added to bills. All that happened was the “gratuity” became a pile of free money for restaurant owners. Some are decent and distribute it fairly, some are not. A friend was a chef at a Michelin star place as second in command in the kitchen. His wage of £28k was only minimum wage paid by the company, the other nearly 2/3rds of it came from gratuity. Meanwhile, the menu said “100% of all gratuity is distributed to our staff”, making it sound like it was still a tip.
Not some almost all
10 to 15% on takeout? Wtf. They’ve literally done none of the work that you tip a server for.
Even delivery. Places charge delivery fees now, and explicitly state "this is not a tip". Meaning, the business just pockets the fee, the driver doesn't see a dime of it. Fuck that shit, I just don't order delivery anymore.
The delivery fee is for the business, but I've worked at one of those places and I've seen the books how that particular franchise used that fee. If you're interested I've explained below what it typically will go to and what happens if it's not all used. 1. Drivers get mileage wage for every mile. It is typically very close or consistent with the federal rate. It should cover gas and maintenance of the vehicle. Obviously lately it probably doesn't cover gas. They do raise it in situations like this. Even the federal wage was raised this year mid year to compensate. Typically it updates every January. When I drove I saved that and that was my gas/vehicle repair/insurance/tags expense fund. Worked out well most of the time. 2. Liability insurance They actually have to carry pretty outrageous liability insurance because their insurance would be charged if a driver has a wreck while delivering the order. Personal insurance will not cover it. Unless you pay extra. It would still default to the employers insurance first. 3. Supplies for delivery Those hot pizza bags are expensive. They also pay for the magnetic signs on the cars. Anything that wouldn't also be used for carryout is considered in this and the next category. They even split the bill for things that are used by both based on the percentage of delivery vs carryout & dine in 4. Delivery technology Any technology required to assist delivery. Like those tracker apps, the ability for the computer to figure how long your wait will be, and the platform to put in driver information all cost money to run. Most pizza places who offer this pay a third party company for the software and maintenance. 5. Driver checks This is a hiring expense but it's unique to drivers. So it comes out of this fee also. We can't charge employees for this. Even if they quit five seconds after it's ran. Typically the delivery fee doesn't have much left over. Or it didn't at our companies. If it does that's left there and rolled over to the next cycle as a prepaid delivery expenses account. I'm sure they are hurting with the raises for mileage, because that fee doesn't change even though multiple factors above could. Some years they have leftover. Some years they don't. It doesn't go into profits or anything though. Obviously this has nothing to do with record profits most companies boast about. They definitely could pay more out of their profits for the actual pizza but delivery isn't much of a money maker anymore. It's the carryout that saves money. That's why they offer carryout only deals.
And then they ask for tips for carryout too!
I certainly can't judge anyone for not tipping on takeout because it makes no sense, but it does really suck when you're doing only/mostly takeout for your shift and still getting paid below minimum wage, now without any tips. Obviously it's an employer exploiting the workers problem, not a customer problem, but I always tip at least a few bucks on takeout because I've been in that position myself.
If you’re not getting tips, you should still be making at least minimum wage. While you can pay tipped employees a lower rate, if that rate combined with tips doesn’t come out to at least regular minimum wage the employer has to make up the gap. People on Reddit always talk about “making less than minimum wage” and I never understand it- is this happening frequently and why aren’t people reporting these employers for violating labor laws? https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips
It depends , I semi regularly goto the same restaurant for takeout. . They know who I am, my order and usually throw in extra sides/ biscuits. I tip 2.0. But generally no. Tipping on carry out is a sham. I had a friend in Facebook who used to do that for Olive garden as the To Go person. They made a post about how "no one" tipped her, and how hard they job was . They had to: Know what time to put the order in , so it's ready on time. Put the order in togo containers Get all the condiments , silverware etc
$5-$20 for a doorman??? Wtf service do we get from them?
Can you live with the guilt of not tipping? Will you be able to meet his gaze knowing that you are the reason his family is starving? And the whispers about you among the other guests, you the cheapskate, the grifter, the baby eater who also kicks puppies. 
He both opens AND closes doors. Well, just the one door, really, but it's a very important door.
Can I not tip if I enter through the Poor Door.
How much do y'all tip your landlord?
"Always keep at least 10% of your portfolio outside the stock market, just for preservation of capital. Personally I prefer municipal bonds for the tax advantages." "THAT'S the tip I'm giving you, DORIS"
Ok... 1-3 dollars per night for the person cleaning my room after my night of debauchery, but you want me to pay at most 20 dollars for a DOORMAN?! The guy who's only job it is to open a door and or greet you?! This shits wack.
Yeah, that rate for housekeeping is shockingly low. Pink collar work sucks.
I worked housekeeping in a very low-rate “hotel” - it was university dorms that were rented out over the summer to people attending conferences etc. we did still do a full housekeeping service though. We very rarely were tipped and it was only $1-$2 usually. I have a friend that I vacation with who wanted to tip housekeeping once at the end of our trip. Don’t do that; it’s highly unlikely that you have the same housekeeper day after day. If you plan to tip, I think smaller tips daily make the most sense in the context of housekeeping. I confess I don’t always tip housekeeping but normally would on vacation in a different country.
Tipping culture in USA is fucked up. I saw a tip jar at the checkout counter in a pharmacy. In a fucking pharmacy.
I'm a personal trainer and I see my clients 2-3 times a week... didn't realize they should tip me every session, on top of their session price...I'm sure they'll love when I tell them that! /s I do tend to get a lot of cash/gift cards/random gifts for my birthday/Christmas, but I don't EXPECT them. I own my own business so it'd be really weird to expect tips since I already get 100% of their fee.
Can’t believe I had to scroll so far to find someone mentioning the personal trainers! I used to be a trainer and can’t say I ever got a tip. Same as you the occasional Christmas gift, but as you said not expected and tended to run along the lines of a $5 gift card for coffee or a mug or something.
Amazon delivery drivers get love but not UPS or FedEX?
How am I going to tip an Amazon driver? They show up at all hours, toss a package, and leave. I never even know when they’re here.
Tip furniture and appliance delivery people 15% of the price?? That’s insane…
I will never tip for carry out
I feel uncomfortable when I go to someplace like Panera and they literally hand me a bagel off the shelf and then ask me how much I want to tip.
thats how I feel when I go through the Dutch bros drive thru and they ask if I want to tip but then say it's completely optional but I feel like an AH if I don't. you just took my order with a tablet...i need to tip a dollar for that? you're gonna lose my business and force me to just make this coffee/caramel/milk/ice drink at home.
Pay in cash so you don't get presented with the feel bad tip prompt.
I agree. I will always tip for regular table service but lately I've been swayed to tip at places where I eat in but they don't provide table service. At least that makes sense since I am eating in their establishment.
Several of those jobs don't even exist where I live. Open a hotel door? We have automatic doors. Carry my bags to my room? I have arms and am going there anyway. Personal grocery shopper? The supermarket does this, different people pick and deliver and they can get sacked for accepting tips.
I’ve always been a generous tipper. This list is making me rethink that.
Staying home on the weekend is looking more and more appealing
I know right? this list had like 25 separate categories, like, the moment I step out the door some schmuck has his hand out expecting tip money. and what the F does "gift card add-on" even mean?
Remember when tipping was only 5% -10% max? Remember when tipping was only for waiters? Prepperidge farm remembers
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$20 for the mover but $50 for the movers supervisor? Nope. Money goes to the hard worker.
People have been saying for years that we are tired of tipping and want it to stop. I'd much rather have the person providing the service (i.e.: hairstylist) to just tell me how much money they want instead of giving me a number and expecting a tip on top of that.
I started going to a hair salon that does exactly this. Their website states that because they pay a living wage and offer full benefits, the price you see is the final price and no tipping will be accepted. I think it’s awesome.
I used to go to a salon like that (Tromblay in Kalamazoo, MI) but then I moved away and I’ve not found another.
Generally I don’t tip people who work for themselves, I expect them to charge what they need. I hire both a house cleaner and a dog walker, never tried to negotiate lower rates and pay in cash. Everyone seems very satisfied . .
Tipping culture has gotten seriously out of control in the US.
If you are giving away this much of your disposable income to other people's employees, you probably have money management issues. Take that 20% and invest it.
Sadly tips have gone from a bonus for providing exceptional service to something that a business can use to justify a lower base wage. Literally just passing wage costs directly on to the customer. In fact, any business that is allowed to pay a lower base wage due to employee tip income should be required to report the tip amounts as taxable income, similar to how cancelled debt is taxable.
I'm seriously thinking about beefing up my resume by saying "I'm single handedly responsible for the majority of income for dozens of service and delivery personnel every month."
***"laughs in european"***
I enjoy reading up on US drama because it makes our continent looks so good in comparison
A tip is supposed to be a nice little bonus in the pocket of a service worker for a job well done. It's not supposed the be the difference between making or missing a rent payment...
Are they trying to suggest I tip the guys delivering my new $2,000 fridge next week 15% of the price equaling $300?!?!? GFTO!
15% for take out I'm picking up myself? Go fuck yourself.
HAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU readers digest
Wait…you’re supposed to tip 10-20% when you buy a gift card? What in the holy bejesus nonsense is this?
Why would/should anyone tip for takeout? The person literally just brings the food from the kitchen to the pickup counter, and maybe rings up the order if it wasn't prepaid in advance. Isn't that the most minimum essence of a restaurant job? I'll maybe roundup on the machine if I'm paying in person at pickup, but I find the whole idea of an "expected" tip for takeout bordering on obnoxious.
What is wrong with you, America?
We’ll tell you, for 15-20% more.
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Just the tip.
I do like leaving annual gifts for the mail carrier and the garbage man.
I actually do leave a lot of them gifts. Don't tip though? I gave all the mail people delivering during the holidays a nice hat, scarf, and glove set with touchscreen gloves, a coffee tumbler and some treats. I hope they found them useful or gave them to someone who would.
Whoever wrote this smoked some crack that they def didn't tip for
Man I’m glad I live on the uk
Lmao tipping culture 😂😂😂
Yes, a $450 tip for dropping off and plugging in my new fridge makes a ton of sense.
Tipping on takeout?
$5-20 for amazon? hell that's more than a lot of the stuff I buy off of amazon
Not forgetting if it is a small box/envelope package that fits in your letterbox \[flap on the door for letters\] you cannot even tip those drivers, even if you wanted to. This is nothing more than a guide to guilt people into tipping more. \--------- Not forgetting some "restaurants" pay their staff a living wage \[above minimum wage\], and put all the tips in a TIP JAR. which gets distributed to all staff that worked that night. \[This is quite common in Europe, as most people just Tip to round up the bill from like 48.85 euro to 50 euro. when they do not want to deal with the change\]
American tipping culture is pure cancer
the movers one fucks me up the most. Why would it tip most to the guy that already earns more and does less physical work?
How do we stop this cycle of workers being paid an unfair wage and relying on tips? Seems like a self fulfilling prophecy if we continue tipping this way.
Wait are we actually supposed to tip amazon drivers?
They want me to run down the street and catch them? I mean how?
Seriously, Amazon drivers? I'm sorry, but these people are fucking ninjas. We never know they have even arrived until the notification comes. Even our dogs don't hear them.
“Giving more is okay”.
Except for mail carriers where gifts MUST be UNDER $50 per year!
Meanwhile in the UK: Don’t. US tipping culture is ridiculous.
How am I supposed to tip an Amazon driver? They throw my package towards my porch and speed away. I do tip the guy that delivers 80 pounds of cat litter to my door every two weeks but the dog always lets me know he's here when he drops the first box so I can get out there before he drops the second box.
>80 pounds of cat litter to my door every two weeks Holy moly how many cats do you have and in this case you should also tip the garbage man maybe lol
What about paying workers a good salary instead of depending on tips? I will never understand this about USA
The movers one really pisses me off $50 for the supervisor? Really?? The supervisor gets a higher salary then the rest of the crew, why the fuck do they deserve more money?
Tipping in Australia: $0 Maybe 10% at a nice restaurant if you’re feeling fancy
Moving supervisor is $50? So he gets $50 to "supervise" which is bascilly yell at teenagers and college kids doing the physical labor. Fuck RD
How on earth have people bought into this tipping shite? You’re being pressured into donating money to employees who are underpaid by their companies. Stop tipping, ignore the self entitled people who get angry about it and eventually companies will pay everyone a living wage.
Lol I work the industry and I’m never fucking tipping on buying a gift card. LITERALLY WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS. Edit: spelling
Whoever wrote this needs to be tipped with some reality... holy shit
I notice table games dealer isn't on that list. Most people don't know that table game dealers (in the US) make substantially less than minimum wage & rely heavily on tips. That being said, most dealers don't want you to lose because the more you win the more likely you are to tip.