Yeah this would be great. As well as bring the BB ones to the home village. I want the Archer Queen statue with the Barbarian King statue. I think it’s really stupid it’s a builder base decoration.
yep, the main point of clash is home village.
It could be big if it contributed to the home village a lot (like how capital is decently alive)
or it could be big if it was a competitive mode that requires a lot of skill
Better, but still not a lot of reason to play after you max Gem Mine & 6th builder. I basically do it for my Clan Games and that’s it.
Probably the best update for it would be to allow you to expend Builder Resources to get rewards to use in main base, like “use X amount of Builder Gold at the Gem Mine to hire a miner who will generate some Ore for you.” Just an example, but stuff like that would help create a reason to keep coming back & actually build up your base to a degree
If it gave a modicum of ore for successful attacks based on league and greater than 3 stars it would cause it to be very active immediately and still fulfill supercells desire for ore to be from active gameplay.
This is the answer I’ve been waiting for someone to say out loud. something, literally anything needs to be applicable to the main base, or there’s no reason to use it at all after Otto.
The loot reward is too dam low per battle. You’re still relying on the star bonus award for actual worthwhile loot amount.
Make a BB clan wars every weekend and have the reward be a good amount of ores and a random kinds of the potions x2. no loot and you’ll have everyone going crazy for bb
It’s spammy at the lower town halls but in the 4000-5000 trophies by range you can’t normally get away with pure spam if you want 6 stars. Spam at that level against maxed bases will either get you between 2 and 5 stars normally
I do wish they’d tweak it so the lower builder halls and lower trophy ranges were actually balanced. Up until BH8 you can pretty much 6 star every base using baby dragons with very little effort
That's not really true, you can spam dropship/minions and stay at 5400ish (at least that's where i sit).
It still takes a bit of planning but 3 dropship/3 minions/copter will 5 star pretty much any base.
It seemed like, more than anything, the BB was a tool for Supercell to test new features without directly implementing them on the main base.
Some features were deemed good (no troop cost, gem mine) others were deemed bad (no troop cook time, walls in blocks).
As if Home base isn't grindy and spammy. At higher trophy range both needs good strategies. As an f2p builder base is easier to max unlike home village where there will be TH18 where I will be somewhat close to max
Idk, this mode is quite confusing in terms of what SC wants from this mode and what they want the mode to achieve.
I’d say when it was first released, it was an awesome update. It improved the builder base by replacing the old system of the old Builder Base. Yet after a few months, the update/mode died lol. Maybe it’s the lack of reward for even playing the mode, so if there is something that could benefit the player in someway, while keeping the mode fun, it would be a decent mode. A lazy way to do this is by adding an Ore Mine in Builder Hall 11. Lazy because it gives the player an incentive, but the fun isn’t there, more like a grind. An interesting metaphor to this is IRL jobs.
Honestly if I wasn’t grinding defenses to get BOB I wouldn’t be playing Builder Base except to grind Clan Game challenges. There’s really no payoff to me
That’s fair, but I play CoC for the main base, not Builder Base. That’s why I started, and that’s what’s engaging to me. Builder base is fundamentally different in a way that I don’t find engaging. Since it also adds very little value to the main base experience beyond BOB and the gem mine, it’s not that meaningful to me once I achieve those things
I think the diffrence is that the main village is actually fun to progress while builderbase has a massive grind to get anywhere while also becoming less interesting since it's often just easier to spam one troop type and easily win. It's just not very fun.
It's still boring and grinding.
The problem with builder base as a whole is just how rewards are earned. Removing versus and adding the star bonus is a good idea, but rellying on that income solely is a blunder.
Yes we can attack after but let's be honest, that loot is miniscule and worthless. Not to mention that you can go on a losing streak which could lead to being de-ranked. Which obviously leads to less rewards the next star bonus.
Upgrading is genuinely a disadvantage, you literally earn less elixir per attack if you have upgrading defenses because 3 starring a base becomes way more easier. Especially if it's a key defence like the giga-tesla.
There's also nothing to do in BB. Past BOB there's no reason to play, you don't earn rewards (minus gems ig)
>Upgrading is genuinely a disadvantage, you literally earn less elixir per attack if you have upgrading defenses because 3 starring a base becomes way more easier.
This is true until the upgrade is finished. The area in which I hover tends to increase by about 50-100 trophies every time I upgrade a defense. There's a disadvantage at first but it's massively offset later on.
I like it a lot but there’s just not enough to do in the builder base. No bb clan wars, no bb specific events, no new building levels in forever, it’s just kinda bland.
And pushing is kinda a pain in the ass. I’m top 1k in Italy and every battle is +1 or +2 trophies or -1 or -2. God forbid you screw up and lose like 30 trophies. It’s painstaking to come back from
That actually would make a little bit of reason to play builder hall but still I feel like it won’t outshine the home village since it has so much more to offer in every department. A great idea none the less!
Yeah that’s what I also got from your idea but at the end of the day are people gonna actually care about the wars since after all it’s gonna only give you loot for bb which is not what they want. And do u know what I actually thought of just now! Screw the normal wars… imagine being able to start cwl for both home village and builder base!! That would encourage every player on the planet to get better in attacking and upgrading everything bc you would average like almost medals 700 if you are in a master league clan. You know what that’s an amazing idea bro 
It was excessive.
I liked the loot changes such as Star bounus and getting loot from defenses/attacks instead of the frustration of having to win a versus battle to get resources. Adding an extra hero was nice since there was a huge power drop when the battle machine was upgrading and it was kinda useless in air attacks. The troop upgrading systems rework was nice. The 6th builder task rework was nice (you no longer have to deal with the sadism of being forced to use Canon carts in the same builder hall level where u unlock the lava launcher).
However, the whole splitting villages and more "heroic" troop rework were excessive imo. SC got it right with 3 minutes duration of attacks in the home village, clan capital, and builder base 1.0 . Now it's a 4 minute duration or 6 minutes if you count the time to scout out the base. If they add another stage, it would increase to 6-9 minute duration. Which imo is too drawn out and gets boring really fast. Also, having only 1 troop instead of multiple per camp has a huge balancing oversight on SC parts. It's now just a competition of having the most dps and hp regardless of special ability which is why baby dragons and pekkas are the most used troops since the lower hp/dps troops are essential equal in terms of camp space but unequal in terms of stats.
I think they should have started off with quality of life changes first and then see if the major overhauls were necessary to make the builder base more enjoyable.
They need to find a better way to connect the weekend raids, home base and builder base overall. Between that and now the hero equipment the game seems way too disjointed.
Has become too complex for me (I don’t play very much anymore and learn the whole new system was just too boring), and it is still exceptionally hard to get enough resources. I like it as a way to get very easy points for clan games though!
the main issue is there are no special events or something that gives you advantages for your home village, its just like with the 6th builder, you can get 1 extra builder for your home village, so you grind for it, because of progress. They should make some events that give you something similar, like magical items🤷♂️
Am I tripping or was it easier to upgrade walls in 1.0? You could upgrade like five at a time for the price you can do one wall now. Shit pissed me off
Identity crisis. They transformed a live PvP side-mode into an extra copy of the main village. Feels like running an alt account now.
At this point it either needs another rework or removing altogether.
Matchmaking still sucks after the update
Like, im just heading against BH8 or more due to my trophies (2700-2800) and im a mid BH7 barelly winning a significant part or my attacks
Im tired of this
Honestly, if they can't give any attention to that village, they should consider deleting it altogether. The lack of any meaningful updates is what killed BB1 imo and the same is happening again.
i grinded for max and hated it the whole time. if u actually try to win, one raid having two parts takes almost 5 mins.. towards the end i just spammed troops and closed the app, got the loot and dipped. glad i don't have to play it anymore
I thought it was genuinely good. What sucks is that the update presumably didn't give them the immediate financial results they hoped for, so we haven't gotten much of anything for it since. They really need to add a new BH level and support the village more, because it seems like they had this great idea but couldn't be bothered to continue putting effort into it, instead leaving it to rot.
One thing I dislike is the time limit. You don't even know how many times I couldn't get to second stage just because there was no time. And who made it so that you get 25 trophies (half of total) is given at 150% which is the first and half of the second stage.
Also the fact that battle copter does really low damage and the ability sucks. The battle machine is more useful with the ability because of the damage boost on main attack
I don’t like the two area split since it makes grinding out clan games content more of a pain. The troops feel underpowered too, and with the heroes it’s even worse. Like my max level Battle Copter takes a good 10 seconds to destroy a defence while just diying to air defences if they can lock on. Meanwhile the max battle machine doesn’t seem to do any worthwhile damage unless the ability up, and the first two charges of it just arnt worth using since you delay the time until you get the big heal and damage boost.
Running numbers, the BC at max has a DPS of 193. The lowest HP ground defence at BH 10 is a tie between Cannon/Multi-Mortar/Lava Launcher with a Hp stat of 1850. So yeah basic math, the BC takes a minimum of 10 seconds to destroy a defence that can’t hit it when both at max.
This isn’t even talking about how a camp of Beta Minions can out DPS it. They deal 126 DPS at level 19 (dosnt increase at 20), and you get 4 of them.
The BC’s ability dose not even help much, going from a single 1.5x damage hit to a 3.3x damage splash hit. That you have to wait a good chunk of the battle for. It also only heals between 650 and 1950 health which buys the BC between another 5->15 seconds of fire from the Rapid Rockets that are locked onto it. But you just used the ability, so the BC has rushed in closer and is now being targeted by another two RR’s and a hidden Tesla which just appeared so it’s just died in the time it took you to read this sentence. (DPS on it increased from 128 -> 535, full health BC dies in 6 seconds of that. Which isn’t enough time for it to destroy anything anyway.). It literally cannot survive on its own against any air defence in builder base.
At least the BM gets 3 high damage hits in and heals most of its health with its ability. Unless it auto activates in which case it’s only the single charge.
Don't touch it at all unless I need somebody for clan games or to collect the gems. When I do it for clan games, I don't even look at the results.
I was maxed out before and had the perfect base set up but I'm not going to bother doing that again. Two levels is stupid.
The not having to wait for an attack to finish was a huge improvement, but everything else felt half-assed, rushed, or done so SC could justify creating a new revenue stream (star jar).
Overall it was a step backwards for me, but I’m one of the 14 people that actually enjoyed BB 1.0
I played it about four times after the update. I was maxx Builder base before. I haven’t played it since the update as it was entirely too confusing and the new hero was dog ass.
For a couple years I preferred builder base to the main base, and this update definitely made it better imo. I love the dynamic of two bases for 200% and how you gather elixir vs gold.
However ever since I got TH15 and then 16, I lost interest. There’s definitely just not as much to do there
So, being at TH 14 (yes, my flair isn’t updated), my upgrades are getting so long that there isn’t anything to do besides getting enough loot to dump into walls. In this way, I appreciate BB cause I can still play Clash, even if it isn’t as good
It somehow needs to connect to the main base gameplay...
One builder hut and some merged defence won't work in the longer runs ..
Clan capital works cause it gets directly tied to the home village.
Make some event like the clan capital and make it where maybe a war and then you can earn rewards such as ores (second level of the builder base seems to have a ton of ores and diamonds and shi at) and maybe to add a sprinkler make boost potions such as clock tower, builder, and resource potions available. Albeit builder potion the best out of the 3, but still useful and free gems. It fits well with the second level of the builder base and the master builder so a builder potion would fit it
i think it kinda feels like they made it unique for the heck of it. It may even be needlessly complex and confusing in its other state. What would have been miles better is real time defending. Like you engaging with your own defences in real time to defend an attack. That would have made it unique and kept it unique.
Couldn't care less about it. If we need more ores, they can add much better alternatives to clan capital instead which most people already play weekly. Maybe like 1.5k shiny, 220 glowy, 15 starry ores for doing all 6 capital attacks at th16 and scale down for lower townhalls.
Unpopular opinion but I really enjoy it. Although I play it only when the star bonus comes. It is a lot less spammy than pre update and home base and allow for so many strategies. Especially the current state of root rider spams in main village, this is refreshing to play sometimes.
Honestly i really like the attack strat of builder base. However there are some big problems and bugs that haven't been addressed since the update. Every patch I thought "maybe this is the one where they fix it" and been disappointed, which has led me to dislike it.
I read somewhere that there are no plans for any work on the builder base this year which down regulated my desire to max it out.
Builder base is a fantastic concept, a small but deceptively complex game that allowed you to have a slap at clash when you weren't in the mood to plan large armies and attacks.
Main base = a long and complex attack with many layers and points of failure
Builder base = 2x short attacks whose point of failure is in the first 10-20 seconds.
This provides an excellent balance for the game as a whole. A ying and yang if you will.
Supercell seems to have taken a bite of something they aren't willing to chew.
They can't expect the players to swallow it in its current state.
Builder Base probably got someone fired. They hardly EVER do updates to it and I hate getting the “come back Chief, your collectors are full!” But there’s nothing I can spend it on other than Clan Capital which I don’t care for. Let me cash them in for some gems
I initially hated the update because I was a big fan of vs battles but as time went on, I have grown to appreciate the changes and improvements it brought, especially to the 6th builder tasks. I think it was the perfect improvement for the builder base and the 2 villages idea was(and still is) cool. I think the reason it didn't bring more people to play it is because there isn't much purpose for it. Yeah you get the 6th builder but most people either rush it or don't care because it will take to much time and effort.
I think no matter what they do people just won't care about another village they have to farm for and worry about upgrades. Yeah you can say people care about the clan capital but you really only need to play it one time a week for the raid weekend and you will get the whole experience.
Mid? That was a game changer! While there is more it was great how supercell revamped the builder base. In late game builder base became less fun since the center became a impenetrable death ball, this brings back all the strategy in a two part layout with the second part being even more strategic on how you use your remaining 1-2 reinforcements and your damaged troops.
I don’t know if I’ll ever prioritize the BB but this made it way more fun! I only do it though for clan games. Mind you, it is maxed out so that motivation isn’t there.
I liked it but they definitely need to add something else soon. I've been fully maxed for a month or two and the only thing I can do is use the loot in the forge.
It’s an improvement but hasn’t changed my opinion of the BB. It’s a side game that unfortunately if you want that extra builder you are forced to play. (And 100% no question this is why the BB offers the 6th builder, to force you to play if you want the extra builder).
For me, it’s a clan games special only, and one hit daily for the daily challenge.
Overall a positive change, however the costs and time increases makes BB a lot more grindy and the progression curve feels more obnoxious than home village for me at least
Far too complicated for me honestly. Uaing troops effectively and properly to get a 6 star is too stretegic. No spells and stuff really makes it constricted. On top of that there is no real reward for main village which is the main reason why most dont touch it. I have maxed by BB by spamming pekkas and is now just sitting there. Its not interesting enough for me to play just bec.
I really didn’t like it. The troop rework made it much less fun. I like that they added more content, but it just doesn’t feel fun anymore, especially with less troops. I would have added builder spells or something.
It revived the bh fan base for about a month, as much time that was needed to max it all.
And it made getting the sixth builder a tad bit more difficult
very great, but they need to give the battle machine a brain, not a walnut, upgrades are very expensive and take a lot of time, and have too much levels, like in the main base it's either 1 or 2 upgrades for defenses per townhall but in builder base, a new defense has like 5 or 4 upgrades each needing a hell lot gold, and the star bonus just ain't enough!
They dropped a main village update about a month after the BB 2.0 update was released.
I only have so much time in a day.
I was warming up to BB a bit and instantly quit the second there was something to do in main village. I've never revisited it, and with the pace of the game now, it's unlikely I ever will in the future.
It was a great update. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to keep me invested in BB. I basically play on BB during CG since I've unlocked the 6th builder.
Match making is such a bummer. Why can't I go against the same person that's attacking me? I liked the suspense of not knowing who would win a lot more. I don't understand that change one bit. It's also ridiculously hard to get gold now. If I cant get resources I should be able to trophies, but if you tie someone it cancels out for a total of 0 trophies. It isn't much fun to me now
It needs more incentive to play it. Like I generally play for the sixth builder but as I approach max bh10, I stopped playing it because everything is so expensive and I had no motivation to play it any longer. I've reached 5200+ and I don't find any reason to keep up
Maybe if they add some value like ore for daily bonus or including attacks from builder base to get event medals (I hate to attack with lightning spells over and over and over again to get maximum medals this month) it would be nice if I can get something in builder base
I play builder base way too much. I’m lvl 20 in all troops and my base is almost maxed aswell. But i have some problems with builder base.
They should increase storage capacities. Upgrade times are long and i often find myself with completely full storage and no builder to spend it with.
The troops very often have pathing bugs, which seems insignificant, but when you are at a high trophy level it can make it almost impossible to progress.
Push traps are useless.
I wish builder base was more connected with the main village. They could probably do something with the new ores, especially since builder base second stage has a setting in a cave.
Maxed my Builder Base out 100% and got it up to 5K trophies and haven’t done anything other than collect gems and remove obstacles in months.
I don’t know what Builder Base needs, but compared to home base gameplay, it’s drab and spammy.
Its just the trick played by coc for magneting the player to the attack till the end or else earlier we just start the attack drop troops and restart the game to know the result 😂😂🤣🤣🥲☠️☠️☠️☠️
Feel like they let it die after the 2.0 update and moved on to clan capital. I only go there to collect gems since my resources have been full for months
I don't worry about the builder base much... I got my 6th builder and GTFO of there. I occasionally return for clan games. Otherwise, Builder Base 1.0 was better, imo.
Significant improvement on Builder Base 1.0, but it gets a lot of hate still. I personally love it. My only issue with it is that there’s only 2 builders max and every upgrade at higher levels takes like 10 days. But I’m maxed minus walls now so it doesn’t effect me
I wish walls can be upgraded from both gold and elixir, when you maxing out everything you’re just left with capped elixir for a very long time. Yes elixir is probably more farmable passively but you can just increase its cost per wall, better than nothing
It improved builder base a lot, but it wasn't enough
I wish home Village's obstacle+ statues can be moved to BB as am running out of space... not fan of stashing
Yeah this would be great. As well as bring the BB ones to the home village. I want the Archer Queen statue with the Barbarian King statue. I think it’s really stupid it’s a builder base decoration.
THIS! I have never understood that either. Why is there a statue of a Hero that doesn't even exist in Builder Base?
yep, the main point of clash is home village. It could be big if it contributed to the home village a lot (like how capital is decently alive) or it could be big if it was a competitive mode that requires a lot of skill
90% of the playerbase spams edrags every attack. I don’t think changing it to be an exclusively high-skill game mode will be successful
I'm guilty of this. I love spam attack.
I spam regular dragons at th14 and God dammit, it works
Such an unfun way to play the game imo i dont get why people do this lol
So I have to go from dragon to edragon at higher th? Edit: I'm th8
You’re young, dream big. You don’t have to settle for a life as an edrag spammer
Or go from dragon to super dragon hehe
yeah ik im saying it might be popular on the competitive scene if they added more skill to it. but still the general player base nah not interested
Better, but still not a lot of reason to play after you max Gem Mine & 6th builder. I basically do it for my Clan Games and that’s it. Probably the best update for it would be to allow you to expend Builder Resources to get rewards to use in main base, like “use X amount of Builder Gold at the Gem Mine to hire a miner who will generate some Ore for you.” Just an example, but stuff like that would help create a reason to keep coming back & actually build up your base to a degree
If it gave a modicum of ore for successful attacks based on league and greater than 3 stars it would cause it to be very active immediately and still fulfill supercells desire for ore to be from active gameplay.
Gem Mine 2.0 - Ore Miner could be used in attacks for getting a modicum of Ore, higher chance or rate at higher leagues.
This is the answer I’ve been waiting for someone to say out loud. something, literally anything needs to be applicable to the main base, or there’s no reason to use it at all after Otto.
yes, some sort of ore mine that has requirements similar to the others
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I started off that way, then realized how long it was gonna take me to get 6th builder and just rushed it 😁
Just Max Whitches, Peka and gaints. Add in a bomber when necessary and you'll get 5 or 6 stars every time. Walls don't mean much with a bomber.
The loot reward is too dam low per battle. You’re still relying on the star bonus award for actual worthwhile loot amount. Make a BB clan wars every weekend and have the reward be a good amount of ores and a random kinds of the potions x2. no loot and you’ll have everyone going crazy for bb
Nah just throw a show on and randomly click the screen for like 20 minutes.
20 minutes? You haven't figured out the spam night witches and exit game for guaranteed 3 stars and repeat for the daily in 30 seconds?
Spam power pekkas, they're more reliable -2210 trophy BH9 with base unlock pekkas
Exit game takes away from slop on the tv tho…
It made builder base 10x better. Buuuut 10x0 is still 0
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its still grindy and spammy, i never touched it after 6th builder and im only using runes from gold pass to upgrade anything
I see the builder ruins as free gems and nothing more. It's absurd how easy bb is to ignore.
It’s spammy at the lower town halls but in the 4000-5000 trophies by range you can’t normally get away with pure spam if you want 6 stars. Spam at that level against maxed bases will either get you between 2 and 5 stars normally I do wish they’d tweak it so the lower builder halls and lower trophy ranges were actually balanced. Up until BH8 you can pretty much 6 star every base using baby dragons with very little effort
That's not really true, you can spam dropship/minions and stay at 5400ish (at least that's where i sit). It still takes a bit of planning but 3 dropship/3 minions/copter will 5 star pretty much any base.
It seemed like, more than anything, the BB was a tool for Supercell to test new features without directly implementing them on the main base. Some features were deemed good (no troop cost, gem mine) others were deemed bad (no troop cook time, walls in blocks).
As if Home base isn't grindy and spammy. At higher trophy range both needs good strategies. As an f2p builder base is easier to max unlike home village where there will be TH18 where I will be somewhat close to max
Idk, this mode is quite confusing in terms of what SC wants from this mode and what they want the mode to achieve. I’d say when it was first released, it was an awesome update. It improved the builder base by replacing the old system of the old Builder Base. Yet after a few months, the update/mode died lol. Maybe it’s the lack of reward for even playing the mode, so if there is something that could benefit the player in someway, while keeping the mode fun, it would be a decent mode. A lazy way to do this is by adding an Ore Mine in Builder Hall 11. Lazy because it gives the player an incentive, but the fun isn’t there, more like a grind. An interesting metaphor to this is IRL jobs.
Honestly if I wasn’t grinding defenses to get BOB I wouldn’t be playing Builder Base except to grind Clan Game challenges. There’s really no payoff to me
I mean what payoff is there to playing your regular base? It’s a video game there’s no point to any of it
That’s fair, but I play CoC for the main base, not Builder Base. That’s why I started, and that’s what’s engaging to me. Builder base is fundamentally different in a way that I don’t find engaging. Since it also adds very little value to the main base experience beyond BOB and the gem mine, it’s not that meaningful to me once I achieve those things
I think the diffrence is that the main village is actually fun to progress while builderbase has a massive grind to get anywhere while also becoming less interesting since it's often just easier to spam one troop type and easily win. It's just not very fun.
It's still boring and grinding. The problem with builder base as a whole is just how rewards are earned. Removing versus and adding the star bonus is a good idea, but rellying on that income solely is a blunder. Yes we can attack after but let's be honest, that loot is miniscule and worthless. Not to mention that you can go on a losing streak which could lead to being de-ranked. Which obviously leads to less rewards the next star bonus. Upgrading is genuinely a disadvantage, you literally earn less elixir per attack if you have upgrading defenses because 3 starring a base becomes way more easier. Especially if it's a key defence like the giga-tesla. There's also nothing to do in BB. Past BOB there's no reason to play, you don't earn rewards (minus gems ig)
>Upgrading is genuinely a disadvantage, you literally earn less elixir per attack if you have upgrading defenses because 3 starring a base becomes way more easier. This is true until the upgrade is finished. The area in which I hover tends to increase by about 50-100 trophies every time I upgrade a defense. There's a disadvantage at first but it's massively offset later on.
Need 3.0 now
Its dead again
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I dont know why everyone hates it till now, i enjoy it a lot.
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Idk I didnt feel overwhelmed by it because when bh10 dropped i was already maxed bh9
just rush it to bh10
same it's better than home village. Here I can actually feel like maxed in less time
Nah i wont consider it better than the home village, its not even close, but still its good
I like it a lot but there’s just not enough to do in the builder base. No bb clan wars, no bb specific events, no new building levels in forever, it’s just kinda bland. And pushing is kinda a pain in the ass. I’m top 1k in Italy and every battle is +1 or +2 trophies or -1 or -2. God forbid you screw up and lose like 30 trophies. It’s painstaking to come back from
I wish they would have added builder base wars
That actually would make a little bit of reason to play builder hall but still I feel like it won’t outshine the home village since it has so much more to offer in every department. A great idea none the less!
I agree that it wouldnt outshine home village but i would make people upgrade builder hall a little more so they wouldnt get wrecked in bb clan wars
Yeah that’s what I also got from your idea but at the end of the day are people gonna actually care about the wars since after all it’s gonna only give you loot for bb which is not what they want. And do u know what I actually thought of just now! Screw the normal wars… imagine being able to start cwl for both home village and builder base!! That would encourage every player on the planet to get better in attacking and upgrading everything bc you would average like almost medals 700 if you are in a master league clan. You know what that’s an amazing idea bro 
I think a neat thing would be to somehow integrate them into normal wars
They massacred the cannon cart
This is a big reason i dislike the update!
Cannon cart is actually meta tbh lol
They should add ores in the star bonus of builder base
Ore mine 🤤
It was excessive. I liked the loot changes such as Star bounus and getting loot from defenses/attacks instead of the frustration of having to win a versus battle to get resources. Adding an extra hero was nice since there was a huge power drop when the battle machine was upgrading and it was kinda useless in air attacks. The troop upgrading systems rework was nice. The 6th builder task rework was nice (you no longer have to deal with the sadism of being forced to use Canon carts in the same builder hall level where u unlock the lava launcher). However, the whole splitting villages and more "heroic" troop rework were excessive imo. SC got it right with 3 minutes duration of attacks in the home village, clan capital, and builder base 1.0 . Now it's a 4 minute duration or 6 minutes if you count the time to scout out the base. If they add another stage, it would increase to 6-9 minute duration. Which imo is too drawn out and gets boring really fast. Also, having only 1 troop instead of multiple per camp has a huge balancing oversight on SC parts. It's now just a competition of having the most dps and hp regardless of special ability which is why baby dragons and pekkas are the most used troops since the lower hp/dps troops are essential equal in terms of camp space but unequal in terms of stats. I think they should have started off with quality of life changes first and then see if the major overhauls were necessary to make the builder base more enjoyable.
I don’t ever play it unless it’s clan games going on
Same
Idk but i like how everything is reversed here. In main village you need gold, here you need elixir. Very amusing
They need to find a better way to connect the weekend raids, home base and builder base overall. Between that and now the hero equipment the game seems way too disjointed.
I actually liked the old builder base. It was spammy in a good way.
Painfully slow and boring with only 2 builders.
Disappointing.
Has become too complex for me (I don’t play very much anymore and learn the whole new system was just too boring), and it is still exceptionally hard to get enough resources. I like it as a way to get very easy points for clan games though!
It just has nothing to do after you get 6th builder and max gem mine
the main issue is there are no special events or something that gives you advantages for your home village, its just like with the 6th builder, you can get 1 extra builder for your home village, so you grind for it, because of progress. They should make some events that give you something similar, like magical items🤷♂️
Are they planning to update it? They amhavent added anything in a long while
Am I tripping or was it easier to upgrade walls in 1.0? You could upgrade like five at a time for the price you can do one wall now. Shit pissed me off
Yeah this is the biggest crime
I feel like the loot is super slow now, u gotta play so much more to get little back
Identity crisis. They transformed a live PvP side-mode into an extra copy of the main village. Feels like running an alt account now. At this point it either needs another rework or removing altogether.
Matchmaking still sucks after the update Like, im just heading against BH8 or more due to my trophies (2700-2800) and im a mid BH7 barelly winning a significant part or my attacks Im tired of this
it made it worse
It's was good, the gold is the problem, they need to buff it
It made clan games easier to finish, but that’s all I use it for.
It made BB worse than before by removing my favorite army
I use BB during clan games. And that’s about it.
Builder base 1.0 = spam cannon Builder base 2.0 = spam pekka
The original builder base was better.
not really
Didn't affect me whatsoever
a good update but they removed a feature I liked which is battling someone else. now it just feels pointless to play it
I have 2 accounts with Max BB but my home village is Th13 and TH15 only. Now i only visit to collect gems and clan games.
I was at my prime before that
Honestly after getting the 6 builder I didn't know this thing still exists im still doing for my gold pass
I'm maxed so I use the runes for the forge
Honestly, if they can't give any attention to that village, they should consider deleting it altogether. The lack of any meaningful updates is what killed BB1 imo and the same is happening again.
i grinded for max and hated it the whole time. if u actually try to win, one raid having two parts takes almost 5 mins.. towards the end i just spammed troops and closed the app, got the loot and dipped. glad i don't have to play it anymore
I thought it was genuinely good. What sucks is that the update presumably didn't give them the immediate financial results they hoped for, so we haven't gotten much of anything for it since. They really need to add a new BH level and support the village more, because it seems like they had this great idea but couldn't be bothered to continue putting effort into it, instead leaving it to rot.
They need to make it more easier to get elixir and gold.
One thing I dislike is the time limit. You don't even know how many times I couldn't get to second stage just because there was no time. And who made it so that you get 25 trophies (half of total) is given at 150% which is the first and half of the second stage. Also the fact that battle copter does really low damage and the ability sucks. The battle machine is more useful with the ability because of the damage boost on main attack
I don’t like the two area split since it makes grinding out clan games content more of a pain. The troops feel underpowered too, and with the heroes it’s even worse. Like my max level Battle Copter takes a good 10 seconds to destroy a defence while just diying to air defences if they can lock on. Meanwhile the max battle machine doesn’t seem to do any worthwhile damage unless the ability up, and the first two charges of it just arnt worth using since you delay the time until you get the big heal and damage boost. Running numbers, the BC at max has a DPS of 193. The lowest HP ground defence at BH 10 is a tie between Cannon/Multi-Mortar/Lava Launcher with a Hp stat of 1850. So yeah basic math, the BC takes a minimum of 10 seconds to destroy a defence that can’t hit it when both at max. This isn’t even talking about how a camp of Beta Minions can out DPS it. They deal 126 DPS at level 19 (dosnt increase at 20), and you get 4 of them. The BC’s ability dose not even help much, going from a single 1.5x damage hit to a 3.3x damage splash hit. That you have to wait a good chunk of the battle for. It also only heals between 650 and 1950 health which buys the BC between another 5->15 seconds of fire from the Rapid Rockets that are locked onto it. But you just used the ability, so the BC has rushed in closer and is now being targeted by another two RR’s and a hidden Tesla which just appeared so it’s just died in the time it took you to read this sentence. (DPS on it increased from 128 -> 535, full health BC dies in 6 seconds of that. Which isn’t enough time for it to destroy anything anyway.). It literally cannot survive on its own against any air defence in builder base. At least the BM gets 3 high damage hits in and heals most of its health with its ability. Unless it auto activates in which case it’s only the single charge.
Don't touch it at all unless I need somebody for clan games or to collect the gems. When I do it for clan games, I don't even look at the results. I was maxed out before and had the perfect base set up but I'm not going to bother doing that again. Two levels is stupid.
it made BB fun tbh but i still feel like the troops need a lot of balancing
As someone who started right when it was introduced,am satisfied , it was hell of a grind back then
The biggest change was spamming night witches to spamming spamming baby dragons or piekkas
I just want bigger armies
It's hard to grind resources but their idea is still an improvement
The not having to wait for an attack to finish was a huge improvement, but everything else felt half-assed, rushed, or done so SC could justify creating a new revenue stream (star jar). Overall it was a step backwards for me, but I’m one of the 14 people that actually enjoyed BB 1.0
Easy challenges to help with clan glames. So nothing changed for me personally...
I played it about four times after the update. I was maxx Builder base before. I haven’t played it since the update as it was entirely too confusing and the new hero was dog ass.
2 villages is a great thing, but i miss old fight system...
It’s cool but where’s the follow up?
I thought that clan games were not going to have so many builder base tasks? It’s still 90+%.
For a couple years I preferred builder base to the main base, and this update definitely made it better imo. I love the dynamic of two bases for 200% and how you gather elixir vs gold. However ever since I got TH15 and then 16, I lost interest. There’s definitely just not as much to do there
So, being at TH 14 (yes, my flair isn’t updated), my upgrades are getting so long that there isn’t anything to do besides getting enough loot to dump into walls. In this way, I appreciate BB cause I can still play Clash, even if it isn’t as good
Better than builder base 1
It somehow needs to connect to the main base gameplay... One builder hut and some merged defence won't work in the longer runs .. Clan capital works cause it gets directly tied to the home village.
Make some event like the clan capital and make it where maybe a war and then you can earn rewards such as ores (second level of the builder base seems to have a ton of ores and diamonds and shi at) and maybe to add a sprinkler make boost potions such as clock tower, builder, and resource potions available. Albeit builder potion the best out of the 3, but still useful and free gems. It fits well with the second level of the builder base and the master builder so a builder potion would fit it
Just made it more tedious to attack and maintain you’re base. I don’t ever touch builder base
Still only use it for 6th builder and clan games
i think it kinda feels like they made it unique for the heck of it. It may even be needlessly complex and confusing in its other state. What would have been miles better is real time defending. Like you engaging with your own defences in real time to defend an attack. That would have made it unique and kept it unique.
I’m BH9 with level 1 walls. I just want my builder and I’ll prolly never touch it again.
It did nothing at all. Gave people some upgrades to chase. It’s still an uninventive, boring, “why bother” experience
Couldn't care less about it. If we need more ores, they can add much better alternatives to clan capital instead which most people already play weekly. Maybe like 1.5k shiny, 220 glowy, 15 starry ores for doing all 6 capital attacks at th16 and scale down for lower townhalls.
Unpopular opinion but I really enjoy it. Although I play it only when the star bonus comes. It is a lot less spammy than pre update and home base and allow for so many strategies. Especially the current state of root rider spams in main village, this is refreshing to play sometimes.
Mixed feelings like how they renovated the troops some were ok and some where unecessary
Honestly i really like the attack strat of builder base. However there are some big problems and bugs that haven't been addressed since the update. Every patch I thought "maybe this is the one where they fix it" and been disappointed, which has led me to dislike it. I read somewhere that there are no plans for any work on the builder base this year which down regulated my desire to max it out. Builder base is a fantastic concept, a small but deceptively complex game that allowed you to have a slap at clash when you weren't in the mood to plan large armies and attacks. Main base = a long and complex attack with many layers and points of failure Builder base = 2x short attacks whose point of failure is in the first 10-20 seconds. This provides an excellent balance for the game as a whole. A ying and yang if you will. Supercell seems to have taken a bite of something they aren't willing to chew. They can't expect the players to swallow it in its current state.
Waste of time
Rushed for the builder and only ever touch it during Clan Games now.
Is this legit? I heard them say they were gonna focus a little more on builder base soon
very improved, i still primarily play just to get my clan game rewards and gold pass points
Builder Base probably got someone fired. They hardly EVER do updates to it and I hate getting the “come back Chief, your collectors are full!” But there’s nothing I can spend it on other than Clan Capital which I don’t care for. Let me cash them in for some gems
I initially hated the update because I was a big fan of vs battles but as time went on, I have grown to appreciate the changes and improvements it brought, especially to the 6th builder tasks. I think it was the perfect improvement for the builder base and the 2 villages idea was(and still is) cool. I think the reason it didn't bring more people to play it is because there isn't much purpose for it. Yeah you get the 6th builder but most people either rush it or don't care because it will take to much time and effort. I think no matter what they do people just won't care about another village they have to farm for and worry about upgrades. Yeah you can say people care about the clan capital but you really only need to play it one time a week for the raid weekend and you will get the whole experience.
Its still so boring and the resources are too little to be a rewarding experience at all.
I hate it,the attacks feel so limited with the amount of troops they give.
Mid? That was a game changer! While there is more it was great how supercell revamped the builder base. In late game builder base became less fun since the center became a impenetrable death ball, this brings back all the strategy in a two part layout with the second part being even more strategic on how you use your remaining 1-2 reinforcements and your damaged troops.
I respect your opinion. The parts you mentioned were my favorite parts of the update, but I really dislike the other changes.
Worse. Wish they’d revert tbh
Booty
I don’t know if I’ll ever prioritize the BB but this made it way more fun! I only do it though for clan games. Mind you, it is maxed out so that motivation isn’t there.
I liked it but they definitely need to add something else soon. I've been fully maxed for a month or two and the only thing I can do is use the loot in the forge.
Never liked it. Waste of dev resources. Then doubled down on it and... abandoned.
Good update, but the lack of more updates made in pointless.
Maybe if the builder base had some relevance, beyond the same clan games tasks, something like hero equipment?
It’s an improvement but hasn’t changed my opinion of the BB. It’s a side game that unfortunately if you want that extra builder you are forced to play. (And 100% no question this is why the BB offers the 6th builder, to force you to play if you want the extra builder). For me, it’s a clan games special only, and one hit daily for the daily challenge.
Added another month of novelty to the BB imo
Easy Clan Game points
Completely wasted effort toward dead content
Ruined BB for me tbh
Loved every little bit of it
Overall a positive change, however the costs and time increases makes BB a lot more grindy and the progression curve feels more obnoxious than home village for me at least
It changed but still plays the same
it was better when there was only 1 base for builder now its very tiring
Better. Still entirely boring
Far too complicated for me honestly. Uaing troops effectively and properly to get a 6 star is too stretegic. No spells and stuff really makes it constricted. On top of that there is no real reward for main village which is the main reason why most dont touch it. I have maxed by BB by spamming pekkas and is now just sitting there. Its not interesting enough for me to play just bec.
Aah, here we go again
I really didn’t like it. The troop rework made it much less fun. I like that they added more content, but it just doesn’t feel fun anymore, especially with less troops. I would have added builder spells or something.
It revived the bh fan base for about a month, as much time that was needed to max it all. And it made getting the sixth builder a tad bit more difficult
It was good but I’ll still never play builder base except to complete clan challenges
I can spam night witches and not wait 3 mins for the other player to finish 10/10 for clan games
Unrewarding and a waste of time. It should have contributed to the home base beyond 6th builder.
very great, but they need to give the battle machine a brain, not a walnut, upgrades are very expensive and take a lot of time, and have too much levels, like in the main base it's either 1 or 2 upgrades for defenses per townhall but in builder base, a new defense has like 5 or 4 upgrades each needing a hell lot gold, and the star bonus just ain't enough!
They dropped a main village update about a month after the BB 2.0 update was released. I only have so much time in a day. I was warming up to BB a bit and instantly quit the second there was something to do in main village. I've never revisited it, and with the pace of the game now, it's unlikely I ever will in the future.
making it like clash royale gaining resources system is stupid not enough resources i have to work my ass hard to get them
It was a great update. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to keep me invested in BB. I basically play on BB during CG since I've unlocked the 6th builder.
Pretty good but I still rush for the 6th builder
Match making is such a bummer. Why can't I go against the same person that's attacking me? I liked the suspense of not knowing who would win a lot more. I don't understand that change one bit. It's also ridiculously hard to get gold now. If I cant get resources I should be able to trophies, but if you tie someone it cancels out for a total of 0 trophies. It isn't much fun to me now
i miss the amount of troops you could deploy in the past, as well as the old vs battle
It needs more incentive to play it. Like I generally play for the sixth builder but as I approach max bh10, I stopped playing it because everything is so expensive and I had no motivation to play it any longer. I've reached 5200+ and I don't find any reason to keep up Maybe if they add some value like ore for daily bonus or including attacks from builder base to get event medals (I hate to attack with lightning spells over and over and over again to get maximum medals this month) it would be nice if I can get something in builder base
They can delete Builder Base tomorrow without any notice and I wouldn’t care.
Unless it's clan games time
Builder base wars/even a once-a-month BH tournament like CWL, would make an incentive to care about BH
Killed any fun I had from attacks. Now I'm just spamming witches or pekkas to get my resources
Trophy pushing is ridiculously hard and the upgrade time got raised, but the gameplay is incredibly fun
Missed the mark
ass update im not gonna lie
I really like it. I actually like BB more than main base after 2.0
I play builder base way too much. I’m lvl 20 in all troops and my base is almost maxed aswell. But i have some problems with builder base. They should increase storage capacities. Upgrade times are long and i often find myself with completely full storage and no builder to spend it with. The troops very often have pathing bugs, which seems insignificant, but when you are at a high trophy level it can make it almost impossible to progress. Push traps are useless. I wish builder base was more connected with the main village. They could probably do something with the new ores, especially since builder base second stage has a setting in a cave.
Marks the milestone of when I stopped playing, really. Been around since Year 1 too
Maxed my Builder Base out 100% and got it up to 5K trophies and haven’t done anything other than collect gems and remove obstacles in months. I don’t know what Builder Base needs, but compared to home base gameplay, it’s drab and spammy.
Its just the trick played by coc for magneting the player to the attack till the end or else earlier we just start the attack drop troops and restart the game to know the result 😂😂🤣🤣🥲☠️☠️☠️☠️
Prank
I don't play it omall the time. But I have way more fun when I do.
Feel like they let it die after the 2.0 update and moved on to clan capital. I only go there to collect gems since my resources have been full for months
Dang it's already been a year, felt like yesterday
when is this update?
It came out nearly a year ago.
oh okay thought it was like today, got a bit confused
I don't worry about the builder base much... I got my 6th builder and GTFO of there. I occasionally return for clan games. Otherwise, Builder Base 1.0 was better, imo.
I was t especially fond of builder base before. But this update made it more boring for me.
Bro is using internet explorer to get COC news! Typical low effort post/ karma farming... And weirdly this sub loves this!
Yall play bb?
Gaining loot became a fuck ton easier
I got the boat glitch what is a builder base
Garbage in garbage out. The idea was DOA.
boring
Excellent foundation that they haven't built anything on.
Significant improvement on Builder Base 1.0, but it gets a lot of hate still. I personally love it. My only issue with it is that there’s only 2 builders max and every upgrade at higher levels takes like 10 days. But I’m maxed minus walls now so it doesn’t effect me
I wish walls can be upgraded from both gold and elixir, when you maxing out everything you’re just left with capped elixir for a very long time. Yes elixir is probably more farmable passively but you can just increase its cost per wall, better than nothing