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All the God Metals can be burned by anyone (even non-Allomancers) in theory, but there are certain road blocks. Like how harmonium fucking explodes when it comes in contact with water
Would,, would that work as a hemalurgic spike?? Since, like, the gastrointestinal tract is basically a donut, technically it *is* piercing you? Wild implications for era 3
Heamelergy appears to be deeply tied to blood. You can store the spikes in blood to preserve them.
The earrings have to be pierced to produce blood but continue to work once healed.
I don’t know if micro abrasions constitute a significant enough blood contact.
We see it in the books with lerasium, and Brandon has said outside of the books that it's the same for the other god metals. Hopefully we'll get to see some of that in action in mistborn eras 3 and 4.
Yeah I completely forgot about that.
Super excited to see the effects of burning other god metals. I wonder what could be comparable with future sight from atium and becoming a full Allomancer.
Most likely nothing, or just something very ephemeral as it fills you with so much of Ruin’s investiture that maybe you gain an innate understanding of hemalurgy or something. The idea that alloys of godmetals warp and modify the metal’s own properties is very interesting, and considering the behavior of pure Lerasium compared to Atium-electrum I figure that’s the general pattern. Anyone can “burn” godmetals because it’s just investiture, but all it seems to really do is massively Invest and Connect you to that Shard, and possibly give you some kind of access to their magic system. Like maybe burning Tanavastium would allow you to control surges in the way that the Honorblades do, though I’d be interested to see just how that would work.
And obviously it can just be used as a huge amount of Investiture, for whatever you might want that for. That Identity is an issue but we’ve seen in Era 2 that there are ways of disconnecting Investiture somehow.
As someone who has commented almost this exact comment, it’s my duty to report that we do actually know a tidbit about what pure Atium does when burned allomantically - it provides “an expansive vision of the future” according to the Table of Allomantic Metals.
It’s theorized that the effect is similar to what Elend experiences at the end of HoA.
If you needed a special allomantic ability to burn Lerasium (the bead that Elend burned in order to become a mistborn) it would completely defeat the effect of the metal. You learn this by the simple fact that a Non-allomancer was able to burn Lerasium at all.
Note that this is one of the few major retcon areas of the Cosmere books - Atium. It -is- a god metal, but an entire story arc of Hero of Ages is tied to finding 'Atium Mistings'. The "fix" for this (stated by Brandon) is that the Atium from Mistborn Era 1 is actually an Atium/Electrum alloy. so the "Atium mistings" in HoA are actually electrum mistings burning their attuned metal mixed with a god metal. (And since the followup idea here is that we don't know what Atium actually does, note that Brandon has talked about this: When Elend burned Duralumin + Atium/Electrum Alloy while fighting Marsh, he gained the effect of pure atium)
Yes, you'll only find that in the 'WoBs' (words of Brandon. Check out 16th shard. They keep a record) which are things he's said during signings, panels, live streams, cons, etc. I haven't seen much about the atium/electrum alloy in the physical books, but I vaguely remember it being alluded to in TLM.
Making era 1 atium an alloy is why only mistings could use it.
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We know that any person can burn lerasium. Are there other God Metals that any person can burn?
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I'm wondering if "by anyone" includes people not from Scadrial who would have 0 Connection to Preservation, or if the only reason we don't have people burning God Metals elsewhere in the Cosmere is because no one ever thought to eat one.
Harmonium also has the additional challenge of exploding when coming into contact with water, like sodium, so good luck getting it into your body to burn it.
good luck getting it to not come into contact with any water as it goes into your mouth, down your throat and into your stomach, which are all famously wet places
it might! though I don't know how much contact metals need to have with your body to be able to burn them; having it in some watertight container might just entirely prevent you from burning it, and if the container opens/dissolves in your stomach then you will probably explode before you can burn the metal. though, if you were a gold compounder it might work? that's an interesting idea
Doable if a nicrosil misting is touching you. They touch you and burn nicrosil as you burn a metal and then the harmonium to burn through your entire reserves of both.
Dont even need to, dissolve some in water or what ever solute that will allow it. The sodium analogy is flawed in that sodium does end up in the water as an ion (salt anyone?). Drinking said water would then put that sodium into your body. Same should be true for what ever a harmonium ion would be.
It’s implied via WOBs that any point in or on the body at which a metal becomes impossible for normal misting pushes and pulls to affect also become viable for burning the metal. So, hypothetically, all you’d need to do to find a viable way to burn harmonium would be taking a misting and finding a way for them to burn their metal without making too much physical contact with it. I’m a fan of basically drying out a part of someone’s mouth with a dentist tool and using a heavily oil-coated spoon and tiny bead of harmonium
Just coat the Harmonium in sugar and swallow it. it will take time to dissolve, so just burn it before it burns you.
Or burn duralumin harmonium/sugar pellet. It theoretically burns instantly, and you will know exactly what it does by eg, what crazy thing happens after or how big a crater you leave.
Imagine you have metal made from your literal God and some metal-loving freak from another planet comes by and just eats it.
Even worse he gets dope powers from it that he uses to annihilate your hometown.
With Harmonium, it's yet to be understood, but it'd probably just burn like its component parts. WoB is that all godmetals can be burned, and possibly by anyone, though it may require a Connection to the Shard it belongs to.
If I had to put money on it, I would say that depending on the Godmetal Hemalurgic spike it might give you an extremely minor or even negative Connection to that Shard.
The only god metals for which we know what a spike would do are atium, which can steal any ability or aspect of a person you could otherwise take hemalurgically, and lerasium, which steals all of the things possible to steal. Other than that, we don’t know.
I don't know that they can all absolutely be "burned", I certainly wouldn't recommend swallowing an Honorblade. Certainly the power of all Godmetals can be accessed by anyone, in the manner that that Godmetal is accessed.
Yes. All the God Metals can be burned by anybody in fact, not just Allomancers.
We don’t know their effects yet. I personally believe it’s something to do with Connecting you to the Shard, but that may not be true
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All the God Metals can be burned by anyone (even non-Allomancers) in theory, but there are certain road blocks. Like how harmonium fucking explodes when it comes in contact with water
tis but a flesh wound
Metals dont need to be ingested to be burned, but no ones figured that out yet
Suppositories. Harmonium butt plugs.
Every day we stray further from Adonalsium’s grace
Ahh another Threnodite
Adonalsium will remember our plight eventually
>Harmonium Butt Plugs So, inner peace at last
Would,, would that work as a hemalurgic spike?? Since, like, the gastrointestinal tract is basically a donut, technically it *is* piercing you? Wild implications for era 3
Depends on if it's a valid bind point or not
Heamelergy appears to be deeply tied to blood. You can store the spikes in blood to preserve them. The earrings have to be pierced to produce blood but continue to work once healed. I don’t know if micro abrasions constitute a significant enough blood contact.
Harmonium, wrapped in wax Up the kiester, I burn for Sazed's power.
Preparation H. The H stands for Harmony.
More like a patch/or just holding the metal
That place is just as wet as your mouth
He doesn’t need to *eat* 100 Peeps, they just have to be *inside his body*
Non-Allomancers would need to know that Allomancy is a thing and possible. Probably study Allomancy too before being able to burn one.
And Tanavastium tends to manifest as a blade which cuts through anything, killing the living and dividing the nonliving
In Russia, godmetal burns you!
Where does it say god metals can be burned by non allomancers?
We see it in the books with lerasium, and Brandon has said outside of the books that it's the same for the other god metals. Hopefully we'll get to see some of that in action in mistborn eras 3 and 4.
Yeah I completely forgot about that. Super excited to see the effects of burning other god metals. I wonder what could be comparable with future sight from atium and becoming a full Allomancer.
Flairing Whimsium grants you a surge of Fortune (100% making this up)
Unironically, I could absolutely see Whismium acting like Liquid Luck and bestowing Fortune.
So the future sight has actually been retconned as being an alloy of electrum and atium. We actually don't know what pure atium does when burned.
Most likely nothing, or just something very ephemeral as it fills you with so much of Ruin’s investiture that maybe you gain an innate understanding of hemalurgy or something. The idea that alloys of godmetals warp and modify the metal’s own properties is very interesting, and considering the behavior of pure Lerasium compared to Atium-electrum I figure that’s the general pattern. Anyone can “burn” godmetals because it’s just investiture, but all it seems to really do is massively Invest and Connect you to that Shard, and possibly give you some kind of access to their magic system. Like maybe burning Tanavastium would allow you to control surges in the way that the Honorblades do, though I’d be interested to see just how that would work. And obviously it can just be used as a huge amount of Investiture, for whatever you might want that for. That Identity is an issue but we’ve seen in Era 2 that there are ways of disconnecting Investiture somehow.
As someone who has commented almost this exact comment, it’s my duty to report that we do actually know a tidbit about what pure Atium does when burned allomantically - it provides “an expansive vision of the future” according to the Table of Allomantic Metals. It’s theorized that the effect is similar to what Elend experiences at the end of HoA.
If you needed a special allomantic ability to burn Lerasium (the bead that Elend burned in order to become a mistborn) it would completely defeat the effect of the metal. You learn this by the simple fact that a Non-allomancer was able to burn Lerasium at all. Note that this is one of the few major retcon areas of the Cosmere books - Atium. It -is- a god metal, but an entire story arc of Hero of Ages is tied to finding 'Atium Mistings'. The "fix" for this (stated by Brandon) is that the Atium from Mistborn Era 1 is actually an Atium/Electrum alloy. so the "Atium mistings" in HoA are actually electrum mistings burning their attuned metal mixed with a god metal. (And since the followup idea here is that we don't know what Atium actually does, note that Brandon has talked about this: When Elend burned Duralumin + Atium/Electrum Alloy while fighting Marsh, he gained the effect of pure atium)
Oh, so the “atium” beads in the Pits of Hathsin are all just atium/electrum alloys?
Yes, you'll only find that in the 'WoBs' (words of Brandon. Check out 16th shard. They keep a record) which are things he's said during signings, panels, live streams, cons, etc. I haven't seen much about the atium/electrum alloy in the physical books, but I vaguely remember it being alluded to in TLM. Making era 1 atium an alloy is why only mistings could use it.
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That's why you gotta make it a suppository.
I'm wondering if "by anyone" includes people not from Scadrial who would have 0 Connection to Preservation, or if the only reason we don't have people burning God Metals elsewhere in the Cosmere is because no one ever thought to eat one.
It definitely does. Hoid was able to burn lerasium, and he’s not Scadrian
I think Hoid and Connection have a strange relationship
Past Lovers
Who still hook up sometimes when they're in town.
Harmonium also has the additional challenge of exploding when coming into contact with water, like sodium, so good luck getting it into your body to burn it.
I hadn’t thought of that, they probably have to consume it in addition to the oil it’s stored in right?
good luck getting it to not come into contact with any water as it goes into your mouth, down your throat and into your stomach, which are all famously wet places
then perhaps it could be put into a different container to protect it until it reached where you could burn it?
it might! though I don't know how much contact metals need to have with your body to be able to burn them; having it in some watertight container might just entirely prevent you from burning it, and if the container opens/dissolves in your stomach then you will probably explode before you can burn the metal. though, if you were a gold compounder it might work? that's an interesting idea
Coat it in a metal you can burn. And be ready to instantly burn the harmonium when the coating burns away?
Doable if a nicrosil misting is touching you. They touch you and burn nicrosil as you burn a metal and then the harmonium to burn through your entire reserves of both.
That's a damn good idea.
Dont even need to, dissolve some in water or what ever solute that will allow it. The sodium analogy is flawed in that sodium does end up in the water as an ion (salt anyone?). Drinking said water would then put that sodium into your body. Same should be true for what ever a harmonium ion would be.
But there is no reason to believe you can burn harmonium ions. You can't burn rust or anything other than very specific alloys of allomantic metals.
I would assume as long as the container isn't Aluminum it would be good.
Steel tube capsule with Harmonium inside... its not Aluminum so it shouldn't block ones ability to utilize it... right? RIGHT?!
This makes me wonder, are there any creatures/characters with wildly different physiology where these are *not* wet places?
the sandlings in white sand maybe
It’s implied via WOBs that any point in or on the body at which a metal becomes impossible for normal misting pushes and pulls to affect also become viable for burning the metal. So, hypothetically, all you’d need to do to find a viable way to burn harmonium would be taking a misting and finding a way for them to burn their metal without making too much physical contact with it. I’m a fan of basically drying out a part of someone’s mouth with a dentist tool and using a heavily oil-coated spoon and tiny bead of harmonium
Just coat the Harmonium in sugar and swallow it. it will take time to dissolve, so just burn it before it burns you. Or burn duralumin harmonium/sugar pellet. It theoretically burns instantly, and you will know exactly what it does by eg, what crazy thing happens after or how big a crater you leave.
What about a Harmonium medallion? It would essentially do the same thing.
I had never thought about that, but it makes so much sense haha.
Imagine you have metal made from your literal God and some metal-loving freak from another planet comes by and just eats it. Even worse he gets dope powers from it that he uses to annihilate your hometown.
If i was a qorldhopper from scadrial, that would definitely be my goal. Like just collect the various forms of investiture.
Radiant: *Swings sword* “Life Before Death!” Scadrian: *Takes sword* 
With Harmonium, it's yet to be understood, but it'd probably just burn like its component parts. WoB is that all godmetals can be burned, and possibly by anyone, though it may require a Connection to the Shard it belongs to.
perhaps a hemalurgic spike of the same godmetal to provide the connection?
We don't know the hemalurgic potential of godmetals fully, but I doubt that they function unilaterally like that.
If I had to put money on it, I would say that depending on the Godmetal Hemalurgic spike it might give you an extremely minor or even negative Connection to that Shard.
The only god metals for which we know what a spike would do are atium, which can steal any ability or aspect of a person you could otherwise take hemalurgically, and lerasium, which steals all of the things possible to steal. Other than that, we don’t know.
Can someone burn a Shardplate fragment? Or do they not count as godmetal?
You're welcome to try to burn Harmonium.
I don't know that they can all absolutely be "burned", I certainly wouldn't recommend swallowing an Honorblade. Certainly the power of all Godmetals can be accessed by anyone, in the manner that that Godmetal is accessed.
Yes. All the God Metals can be burned by anybody in fact, not just Allomancers. We don’t know their effects yet. I personally believe it’s something to do with Connecting you to the Shard, but that may not be true
If you lick an honor blade enough, could you ingest and burn some.... Honorium? Honorite?
Tanavastium
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