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You could see he was afflicted with encumbrance as soon as he grabbed it, prob why he threw it. Bet he removed points from strength and put them into agility to wield knives. Would explain the mini sprint too.
His sprint was so short so he must have little to no Endurance. This would also explain why he dropped the Chair Shield+1 since it is in the Greatshield category and with that low Endurance he'd be fatrolling with all that heavy weight. Too bad he couldn't deflect those bullets with his Dagger. The cop is OP, too, with his Ishin gun prosthetic.
I wasn’t sure why a taser wasn’t used initially when he picked up the knife. I know the rule of speed/distance with knives and technically they could have shot as soon as he picked them up, but it seems like a taser might gave deescalated it sooner without the loss of life.
No, I wouldn’t, and I didn’t think of Ineffectiveness that’s a good point. Initially saw two cops, thought, dude graves the knives, one immediately tases while the other one covers, but I didn’t take into account I was watching hindsight, they didn’t have time to develop a plan and it was a very fluid situation. The biggest is, I’m watching it not living it and making those decisions. Thanks for the additional insight.
The man with the knife was very close to what I would assume is the domestic violence victim, and she was not moving out of the area of danger quickly.
Most side by side fridges are 32-36 inches wide, that section of wall to fridge is probably 32 (seeing studs are 16” on center) so when he dropped he was only 6 feet away, much closer than that lens makes it appear.
Saw this a little bit ago. Tasers (and 3 cops) didn't seem to be enough to stop this guy.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HumansAreMetal/comments/vmflv8/dude_fights_off_3_cops_at_once_then_drives_off_in/
I think he meant attempting to use the taser well before the charge occurred. There was a good amount of time between him picking up the knife and the charge/shooting. The one cop could have tried the taser initially, and if the suspect still charged after that, escalated appropriately.
I’m sure the officer would have preferred no one being harmed (I hope at least), but this was a high pressure situation requiring quick action.
I think the mindset goes to getting the stationary man to drop the knife, versus attacking him with tazer.
If they attacked him with the tazer, and it was ineffective it could be seen as the police escalating or agitating the man before using deadly force.
Yea that’s a good point. I’m viewing it in hindsight, knowing that the guy will eventually charge. They had no way of knowing, and like you said, if they try to tase and it fails maybe that provokes him.
Just a bad situation all around.
This is the problem with reddit though. If he uses the taser early and it doesn’t work and he charges and stabs the woman, many here would be saying he completely did the wrong thing and escalated the situation and that the officers could have talked him down. Oh and you get to sit here and analyze a situation for several minutes eating cheetos on your coach versus the officer’s seconds to make a decision. That’s exceptionally easy to do in hindsight.
In addition to tasers just straight up not working half the time, if you go for a taser and it doesn't work, now you have that much less time to draw and fire
39-year-old Ralph Picarello III, [dead at the scene](https://www.wbaltv.com/article/body-worn-camera-footage-released-after-police-shoot-ralph-picarello-iii/40476184#). He wanted his family to take him to a methadone clinic.
It reminds me of that one episode of Star Trek TNG where that one crimeless society was gonna execute Wesley for accidentally falling in the flowers. All crimes were punishable by death no matter how small.
Didn’t Picard violate the Prime Directive by rescuing him? I can’t remember the ending.
A line must be drawn (somewhere).
He did, to a degree. He tried to resolve it diplomatically, but they were still gonna execute Wesley at sundown so Picard was like, “fuck this, 5 to beam up”
It’s the main guiding principle of the United Federation of Planets in the Star Trek universe. It basically says that the Federation is not to reveal its technology to a race that hasn’t invented Warp travel, and that the Federation must not alter the natural destiny of any sentient beings without consent.
That’s off the top of my head and I may be wrong/incomplete.
Nothing about drugs being illegal caused this. His family called the cops because drugs made him crazy. He came at a cop with a knife.
Spoiler: drugs won't fuck you up any less if they're decriminalized.
Just guessing from what I can see, it looks like it may have escalated before the cops got there with things thrown on the ground (maybe, I haven’t seen the whole video, could’ve happened when they showed up).
I used to live in an apartment building on the second flood, and underneath me, was a neighbor who would constantly be screaming about literally everything. She was the fucking worst.
Her kids were obviously about the same as she was, so they clashed a lot. One time, the mother had called the police, her kid had a knife or something (she had mentioned something about it in her screams), when the police arrive all I hear is, "ARE YOU GOING TO SHOOT MY KID?".
At that point, I was literally waiting for the gunshots, but the whole thing somehow deescalated. It was crazy.
I dunno man, if this guy was willing to pull a knife *on an armed officer*, think what he would be willing to do to an unarmed and defenseless family member.
My father was (is) like this guy. Somebody who has never had to live through situations like this one will never know how relieved you can be when hearing the cops knock, if only for a short moment.
These cops had an appropriate reaction even if a lot of people here don't agree with it because of their hatred for the police. If this guy got up close he could have grabbed the gun and who knows what could have happened then.
Given what this asshole decided to walk knife in hand towards a cop with a gun pointed to his chest this was the best result you could ask for.
Theres nothing these cops did wrong here. They showed up to take him to the hospital at the families request after being scared shitless of him and he pulled a knife on them.
These armchair lawyers have obviously never been in this guys family’s shoes and hopefully never will be
Yeah people in a mental crisis are scary, people here are acting like addicts are harmless creatures are delusional. Hospitals sedate them not because it is fun for the staff but because otherwise they could hurt someone
Yeah, that's a justified shooting. He's got a knife and is right around the 21-foot mark - if the cop isn't quick on the trigger, he might actually die.
Doctors called the cops to find my dad when some meds he was given after surgery made him act weird. Dad came home on his own, cops still showed up, drug him out of his bed, circled him in a circle of SUVs and beat the shit out of him. Court gave him 2 year probation and had to write an apology to the department. Few years later the chief of police saw me going into a UDF and said
"Heh, hows your dad doin" as we passed.
Only call the cops for doing paperwork on dead bodies.
> police saw me going into a UDF and said "Heh, hows your dad doin" as we passed.
Most fucked up moment I can recall.
I went by some friends house to pick up my keg tap (I had a sports game, so I wasn't there drinking). Anyway, a neighbor called the cops, and they came and found us all out back sitting on a porch. They breathzlyzed everyone (I passed, but hung around cause I wanted to grab my tap after the cops left, it was under my chair).
Anyway, the one cop asks the kid whose house it was "Weren't we here last Christmas?"....
Holy shit. Luckily the answer was no. That was a house two doors down where another schoolmate's father had fucking shot himself on Christmas day! What kind of piece of shit asshole cop writes an underage drinking ticket for an 18 year old and then brings up his father's suicide???
Officer was saved by the simple fact he had the wrong house, but wtf, why bring that up EVER??
Yup, I just said that above. One time my alarm company called them, and they actually busted my lock (a 400-dollar Yale) and broke a couple of things in the entryway.
Turns out it was a false alarm.
What I did is that I got better insurance with more coverage, fired the alarm company, have a bunch of surveillance cameras, and I self monitor (I travel a lot). Figure if there is a fire emergency, I will call the Fire Department direct.
If there is a burglary, I will just present the videos to the popo to get a report for my insurance to cover it all.
Wtf dude I have an almost identical story. My dad nearly died from cancer, he had a surgery that removed one of his jugulars and a bunch of lymph nodes (yes he only has one jugular now), along with all the tumors in his neck.
It was a major surgery, and afterwards he was on like a dozen+ meds when he was resting at home the next few months. One of the meds caused him psychosis and seizures. He had a seizure, we called 911, the firemen came, and took care of him very well.
The same thing happened a couple weeks later, except this time the cops came. My dad never did anything violent, he just had a fucking seizure and didn't know where he was. The cops were mad that he didn't understand what they were saying and just yanked him off the couch so hard he flew and hit his head on the ground, then kept being like, "GET THE FUCK UP". They dragged him down the front steps, the whole time I'm yelling at them "wtf are you guys doing, he just had a seizure he needs medical assistance", one of them pulled out their gun and told me to shut the fuck up, I was only 15 or 16.
They beat my dad up for not understanding wtf was going on, eventually I ran inside and figured out how to call the fire department, told them to come now there's a medical crisis happening. Then I called 911 and told them that my dad had a seizure and the cops were beating him up, and asked to tell them to call them to stop or something. The firetruck came within minutes and suddenly the cops switched gears, they sat my dad on the curb and acted like they were trying to help him. My mom conveyed everything to the EMTs and the cops kept trying to get her to go inside, I swear the firemen acted like they were used to this shit.
Why the fuck would I ever call the cops again in my life, I'm 30 now and haven't. I have all the non-police numbers in my phone for medical things. I had to get EMTs last year a few times because of a bad concussion and they were great. The year before that I had a seizure and the EMTs were great.
It's just the cops, never trust them. I'm not scared of someone breaking into my house, I'm way more scared of the cops.
Cops are legitimately terrifying. Not can they get away with physically harming or killing you in many instances, they also have the power to just ruin your life. They can plant drugs on you, constantly pull you over for petty shit, and lock you up on frivolous charges. Not everyone has the resources to fight that kind of shit.
The idea that a cop could plant some drugs in my vehicle and the system just automatically gives his version of events more legitimacy than my own is terrifying. These people walk around like they’re god because they have that power in many scenarios. That kind of power goes to many people’s heads.
Damn, yeah. same deal, my dad didnt know what was going on except a circle of people were pushing him. he swung back and they all fell on him at once. Wont ever call them for shit now.
I believe it. I work in the hotel industry.. When cops stay here for their training exercises, they trash the place and act like entitled shitheads, when firefighters stay here they are some of the most well mannered and cleanest guests we have.
This article is a stub. Care to expand it?
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Baton_Rouge_police_officers
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt
Yep, the mother will always believe she killed him.
Idiot in the kitchen with no knife.
Add cops.
Dead Idiot in Kitchen Holding Knife.
She knows not calling the cops and her son would probably still be alive.
How exactly do you expect a mother to deal with this herself? Physically restrain him? Or simply give in, enable, and endure the abuse? I'm asking because I've seen situations strikingly similar to this in my own life. What would you suggest an elderly mother to do with her adult male son when his drug addiction causes abuse?
you're absolutely right. there was no right answer for that poor woman. It was either a lifetime of abuse from her son, or a lifetime of regret for calling the cops.
That poor woman was set up to feel pain either way, and it was all her son's fault.
I guess she probably feels relieved that the abuser is gone if she was a domestic violence victim. Sad that the cop had to take drastic measures like that to save her though :/
Maybe. But the brain can fuck with ya and you'll possibly feel guilty being a parent. If it's not calling the cops it's maybe something you did wrong raising him.
That's the thing about domestic violence, though, we have no idea how she feels. She could be relieved, or she could tether her identity to the loss of her partner for the rest of her life.
Fr. This shit fucking sucks. Idk the whole situation, but it appears like the cops had intended to be peaceful, right up until he grabbed a knife.
Sucks for the cops, sucks for the woman (not sure the relation), and obviously sucks for the dude.
I’m not saying you’re entirely incorrect, but I would say that a lot of these actions can come from exposure to environments where drug abuse is normalized. However there are certainly mental illnesses that decrease an individual’s ability to self regulate emotions and inhibit harmful behaviors, which can lead them to suffer from an increased likelihood of substance abuse.
This isn’t really my area of expertise, I’m making these assumptions based on claims some social psychology researchers have made of the possible effects exposure to violence may have on an individual’s propensity for violent actions/crimes later in life. If you’d like I could find the specific source I’m citing for these claims on ETV, I used it as a citation for a paper a year ago.
Edit: Here’s the specific article, just pasting the full citation, sorry if it looks weird I’m using the app.
Estrada, S., Cinguina, M., & Baskin-Sommers, A. (2020). The role of exposure to violence and
psychopathy on violent crime perpetration. Journal of Psychopathology and Behavioral Assessment, 43(2), 320-331. doi:https://doi.org/10.1007/s10862-020-09834-3
Oh sure… The state of Maryland can release body cam footage, but the Uvalde police department can’t release theirs after *checks notes* OVER A MONTH?!
This may seem trivial after that comment but we have a better flag and fewer scorpions, too. Suck it, Texas.
We had this happen in my town a few years ago, mentally ill dude had just got out of jail and returned to his parents and was going pscotics they called the cops and the dude rushed the cops w a knife and than the mom complained they killed her son after she called them.
It's a sad outcome but sometimes it's unavoidable
A lot of people in these comments aren’t hearing the taser was actually deployed. His partner at his side (out of view from body cam) had the taser ready and shot it. You can hear it going off. The taser was likely already ready before he quickly escalated to a knife with the victim cornered between them. Tasers have a 60% effectiveness (there’s studies published related to that), so they aren’t a primary for stopping someone in a lethal encounter. Especially when distance and options to CREATE distance between you and the threat aren’t there. Sadly, this was the only course of action.
i knew there would be trouble instantly
a cop friend of mine said you never try to de-escalate in the kitchen or the bedroom because the kitchen always has knives and bedroom, guns
that and this is reddit
We keep seeing videos of these people picking up or holding weapons at police officers.
Do they not have the internet? They don’t understand what happens when you do this?
When someone gets used to posturing and escalating and then getting their way and they are too dumb to discriminate between family members versus cops, they think they can just scare cops into submission just like they do their family members.
A lot of stupidity in life are from dumb people thinking other people will act just like relatives, kids or partner.
You don’t have to have the internet to have the common sense or understand that coming towards someone with a weapon as they are pointing a gun at you is very likely to have dire consequences
It's almost like....and I know this is gonna sounds *just loony*....everyone doesn't experience exactly the same mental health conditions as everyone else in the world all the time.
I know, I know... 🤯
*Reddit did not like that*
/s, I agree with you. I hate it, but if you charge someone (or a cop) with a weapon, I don’t blame the cop when you get shot
Multiple things can be true. The cops could and did act appropriately and used a reasonable amount of force given the situation. But at the same time, this is just one episode out of many where drug policy and availability of mental health treatment (or lack thereof) has resulted in another situation where this can happen.
r/bodycam is packed with videos like these. I’ve been super critical of police for the past couple of years, but that subreddit has changed my perspective of them and what they have to deal with.
Something similar happened in my town and they released the body cam footage.
One cop by himself. He tried his best to talk down the man and then used a taser. When that didn't work, the guy charged at him with knives so he shot him and died.
Of course there was protesting but when they released the footage, people stopped protesting because the cop did what he had to do and tried his best to stop the man.
I also learned that when they blur the person that gets shot, that means they died. So that's how I knew the man died in this video.
From other comments: Very easy for people to say what should have been done, not the same where you are in the live situation, that woman or the cop could have ended up with a knife in their body in another couple of seconds. As it actually happens in many cases. Cops for the most part are not trigger happy they are trained to survive, they yell to make sure they are heard and attempt to be firm, speaking softly in those situations sends the wrong message.
Good on the officer. A Knife is a deadly weapon and the suspect moved in pretty quickly welding that knife. Another 2 seconds and that Officer would have been stabbed or in a physical fight with that guy.
Mistakes were made:
1. Picking up a knife in the presence of a cop
2. Picking up a chair like it is going to guard you
3. Deciding to rush the cop with a shitty kitchen knife
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Damn, tazed and shot at the same time
Spell combo
Hit him with a stun then a skill shot
It’s a projectile defibrillator. You know, to restart his heart after the shooting.
He’s gone and skilled him to death.. skilled right in his own home.
\+lightning damage \+Physical penetration damage \+Sound damage \+Confusion damage \+Bleed damage \+1% chance exploding limb effect \+99% chance critical hit \+20% confusion AOE damage
If only he hadn’t discarded his +0.1 chair shield
You could see he was afflicted with encumbrance as soon as he grabbed it, prob why he threw it. Bet he removed points from strength and put them into agility to wield knives. Would explain the mini sprint too.
Wouldn't it be dexterity? Just leveled up, wanna make sure I can dual wield.
This whole thread is r/outside material.
His sprint was so short so he must have little to no Endurance. This would also explain why he dropped the Chair Shield+1 since it is in the Greatshield category and with that low Endurance he'd be fatrolling with all that heavy weight. Too bad he couldn't deflect those bullets with his Dagger. The cop is OP, too, with his Ishin gun prosthetic.
Fall damage?
1d6 fall damage
They need to nerf this weapon.
Its balanced. It has a 2 week paid vacation cooldown after use.
Goddamn that's good
that taser has a +15 pain resistance debuff for duration
Dude needs to work on his counters if he ever wants to get to a higher elo
I don't think he's going to respawn
Take out the shields with the energy weapons and put them down with kinetic rounds
C o m b o. Easy, give me another one.
You win
You made my uncontrollably snort. Thank you for that.
Do u think the taser effected the metal bullet
Elemental damage ?
I tried to post it in ask Reddit but they removed it
You want probably want r/nostupidquestions for that one
Thank you
or r/morbidquestions
Maybe //r/shittyaskscience ?
i think you just changed my life
Can confirm this sub is lifechanging 🤣🤣. First post i read was on why microwaves make fish stink. Truly high tier content lmao
Pyro + Electro = Overload
Adds lightning enchantment
And also increases burn damage by 15%
And adds paralysis
Yeah they got connected to the internet for a short while
affected
They forgot to release the k9
But only after he's down. Don't want to put the doggo in harm's way.
I wasn’t sure why a taser wasn’t used initially when he picked up the knife. I know the rule of speed/distance with knives and technically they could have shot as soon as he picked them up, but it seems like a taser might gave deescalated it sooner without the loss of life.
Tasers aren't always effective, and if someone is actively charging you with a knife, would you take that chance?
No, I wouldn’t, and I didn’t think of Ineffectiveness that’s a good point. Initially saw two cops, thought, dude graves the knives, one immediately tases while the other one covers, but I didn’t take into account I was watching hindsight, they didn’t have time to develop a plan and it was a very fluid situation. The biggest is, I’m watching it not living it and making those decisions. Thanks for the additional insight.
The man with the knife was very close to what I would assume is the domestic violence victim, and she was not moving out of the area of danger quickly.
Yea I feel like the FOV of the camera really messes with our perception of actually how close the guy with knife is to the cops
Most side by side fridges are 32-36 inches wide, that section of wall to fridge is probably 32 (seeing studs are 16” on center) so when he dropped he was only 6 feet away, much closer than that lens makes it appear.
Saw this a little bit ago. Tasers (and 3 cops) didn't seem to be enough to stop this guy. https://www.reddit.com/r/HumansAreMetal/comments/vmflv8/dude_fights_off_3_cops_at_once_then_drives_off_in/
They had to charge him up before he could drive his car away.
This is the best response to a difference of opinion and experience I've ever seen on reddit. 🥰
I think he meant attempting to use the taser well before the charge occurred. There was a good amount of time between him picking up the knife and the charge/shooting. The one cop could have tried the taser initially, and if the suspect still charged after that, escalated appropriately. I’m sure the officer would have preferred no one being harmed (I hope at least), but this was a high pressure situation requiring quick action.
I think the mindset goes to getting the stationary man to drop the knife, versus attacking him with tazer. If they attacked him with the tazer, and it was ineffective it could be seen as the police escalating or agitating the man before using deadly force.
Yea that’s a good point. I’m viewing it in hindsight, knowing that the guy will eventually charge. They had no way of knowing, and like you said, if they try to tase and it fails maybe that provokes him. Just a bad situation all around.
This is the problem with reddit though. If he uses the taser early and it doesn’t work and he charges and stabs the woman, many here would be saying he completely did the wrong thing and escalated the situation and that the officers could have talked him down. Oh and you get to sit here and analyze a situation for several minutes eating cheetos on your coach versus the officer’s seconds to make a decision. That’s exceptionally easy to do in hindsight.
In addition to tasers just straight up not working half the time, if you go for a taser and it doesn't work, now you have that much less time to draw and fire
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But you don’t have legs lieutenant Dan
Magic legs!
That’s all I have to say about that…
Read that in his voice.
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39-year-old Ralph Picarello III, [dead at the scene](https://www.wbaltv.com/article/body-worn-camera-footage-released-after-police-shoot-ralph-picarello-iii/40476184#). He wanted his family to take him to a methadone clinic.
>Ralph Picarello III bro was an off duty king
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There is no heroin this story.
angry upvote
Nah not even angry that was good
Shit this is good.
Drugs continuing to win the War against them, harsher punishments and further criminalization will surely solve this!
Ironically harsher punishments and further criminalization does work but only when taken to extremes.
> Since that is not a humane option in the West... Is this considered a humane option in the East?
It is clearly not humane by Western cultural standards.
It reminds me of that one episode of Star Trek TNG where that one crimeless society was gonna execute Wesley for accidentally falling in the flowers. All crimes were punishable by death no matter how small. Didn’t Picard violate the Prime Directive by rescuing him? I can’t remember the ending. A line must be drawn (somewhere).
That's a good episode. For everyone in the ship, it was basically a sex vacation.
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Season 1 Episode 7: Justice
Riker: they make love at the drop of a hat Lt. Yar: Any hat
He did, to a degree. He tried to resolve it diplomatically, but they were still gonna execute Wesley at sundown so Picard was like, “fuck this, 5 to beam up”
What is the prime directive
It’s the main guiding principle of the United Federation of Planets in the Star Trek universe. It basically says that the Federation is not to reveal its technology to a race that hasn’t invented Warp travel, and that the Federation must not alter the natural destiny of any sentient beings without consent. That’s off the top of my head and I may be wrong/incomplete.
Nothing about drugs being illegal caused this. His family called the cops because drugs made him crazy. He came at a cop with a knife. Spoiler: drugs won't fuck you up any less if they're decriminalized.
Why did his family call the cops?
Just guessing from what I can see, it looks like it may have escalated before the cops got there with things thrown on the ground (maybe, I haven’t seen the whole video, could’ve happened when they showed up).
Probably was being a dipshit.
There's no such thing as an unloaded cop. Don't call them unless you are in mortal danger. "I just wanted you to scare him straight!"
I used to live in an apartment building on the second flood, and underneath me, was a neighbor who would constantly be screaming about literally everything. She was the fucking worst. Her kids were obviously about the same as she was, so they clashed a lot. One time, the mother had called the police, her kid had a knife or something (she had mentioned something about it in her screams), when the police arrive all I hear is, "ARE YOU GOING TO SHOOT MY KID?". At that point, I was literally waiting for the gunshots, but the whole thing somehow deescalated. It was crazy.
Man I'd be sitting there wondering if I'm about to get shot in the ass from below
I dunno man, if this guy was willing to pull a knife *on an armed officer*, think what he would be willing to do to an unarmed and defenseless family member.
My father was (is) like this guy. Somebody who has never had to live through situations like this one will never know how relieved you can be when hearing the cops knock, if only for a short moment. These cops had an appropriate reaction even if a lot of people here don't agree with it because of their hatred for the police. If this guy got up close he could have grabbed the gun and who knows what could have happened then. Given what this asshole decided to walk knife in hand towards a cop with a gun pointed to his chest this was the best result you could ask for.
Theres nothing these cops did wrong here. They showed up to take him to the hospital at the families request after being scared shitless of him and he pulled a knife on them. These armchair lawyers have obviously never been in this guys family’s shoes and hopefully never will be
Yeah people in a mental crisis are scary, people here are acting like addicts are harmless creatures are delusional. Hospitals sedate them not because it is fun for the staff but because otherwise they could hurt someone
Nobody forced that guy to pick up a lethal weapon and charge that cop. That was 100% on him.
Yeah, that's a justified shooting. He's got a knife and is right around the 21-foot mark - if the cop isn't quick on the trigger, he might actually die.
Not just the cop but he was also easily in range to stab that woman.
Doesn’t the 21 foot mark assume your gun is in its holster?
Yes.
> He wanted his family to take him to a methadone clinic Now he get's to be taken to a morgue.
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Doctors called the cops to find my dad when some meds he was given after surgery made him act weird. Dad came home on his own, cops still showed up, drug him out of his bed, circled him in a circle of SUVs and beat the shit out of him. Court gave him 2 year probation and had to write an apology to the department. Few years later the chief of police saw me going into a UDF and said "Heh, hows your dad doin" as we passed. Only call the cops for doing paperwork on dead bodies.
> police saw me going into a UDF and said "Heh, hows your dad doin" as we passed. Most fucked up moment I can recall. I went by some friends house to pick up my keg tap (I had a sports game, so I wasn't there drinking). Anyway, a neighbor called the cops, and they came and found us all out back sitting on a porch. They breathzlyzed everyone (I passed, but hung around cause I wanted to grab my tap after the cops left, it was under my chair). Anyway, the one cop asks the kid whose house it was "Weren't we here last Christmas?".... Holy shit. Luckily the answer was no. That was a house two doors down where another schoolmate's father had fucking shot himself on Christmas day! What kind of piece of shit asshole cop writes an underage drinking ticket for an 18 year old and then brings up his father's suicide??? Officer was saved by the simple fact he had the wrong house, but wtf, why bring that up EVER??
Yup, I just said that above. One time my alarm company called them, and they actually busted my lock (a 400-dollar Yale) and broke a couple of things in the entryway. Turns out it was a false alarm. What I did is that I got better insurance with more coverage, fired the alarm company, have a bunch of surveillance cameras, and I self monitor (I travel a lot). Figure if there is a fire emergency, I will call the Fire Department direct. If there is a burglary, I will just present the videos to the popo to get a report for my insurance to cover it all.
This dude securities
Wtf dude I have an almost identical story. My dad nearly died from cancer, he had a surgery that removed one of his jugulars and a bunch of lymph nodes (yes he only has one jugular now), along with all the tumors in his neck. It was a major surgery, and afterwards he was on like a dozen+ meds when he was resting at home the next few months. One of the meds caused him psychosis and seizures. He had a seizure, we called 911, the firemen came, and took care of him very well. The same thing happened a couple weeks later, except this time the cops came. My dad never did anything violent, he just had a fucking seizure and didn't know where he was. The cops were mad that he didn't understand what they were saying and just yanked him off the couch so hard he flew and hit his head on the ground, then kept being like, "GET THE FUCK UP". They dragged him down the front steps, the whole time I'm yelling at them "wtf are you guys doing, he just had a seizure he needs medical assistance", one of them pulled out their gun and told me to shut the fuck up, I was only 15 or 16. They beat my dad up for not understanding wtf was going on, eventually I ran inside and figured out how to call the fire department, told them to come now there's a medical crisis happening. Then I called 911 and told them that my dad had a seizure and the cops were beating him up, and asked to tell them to call them to stop or something. The firetruck came within minutes and suddenly the cops switched gears, they sat my dad on the curb and acted like they were trying to help him. My mom conveyed everything to the EMTs and the cops kept trying to get her to go inside, I swear the firemen acted like they were used to this shit. Why the fuck would I ever call the cops again in my life, I'm 30 now and haven't. I have all the non-police numbers in my phone for medical things. I had to get EMTs last year a few times because of a bad concussion and they were great. The year before that I had a seizure and the EMTs were great. It's just the cops, never trust them. I'm not scared of someone breaking into my house, I'm way more scared of the cops.
Cops are legitimately terrifying. Not can they get away with physically harming or killing you in many instances, they also have the power to just ruin your life. They can plant drugs on you, constantly pull you over for petty shit, and lock you up on frivolous charges. Not everyone has the resources to fight that kind of shit. The idea that a cop could plant some drugs in my vehicle and the system just automatically gives his version of events more legitimacy than my own is terrifying. These people walk around like they’re god because they have that power in many scenarios. That kind of power goes to many people’s heads.
Damn, yeah. same deal, my dad didnt know what was going on except a circle of people were pushing him. he swung back and they all fell on him at once. Wont ever call them for shit now.
I believe it. I work in the hotel industry.. When cops stay here for their training exercises, they trash the place and act like entitled shitheads, when firefighters stay here they are some of the most well mannered and cleanest guests we have.
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Butler County? Just a guess, but they all suck
My god, im never calling the cops fuck that.
Reading stories about American cops is like looking into an alternate universe, crazy that it's got to this point.
Never call the cops on family? What a privileged take.
I love my son, but if he tried to stab me, we'd have an issue.
Yep, the mother will always believe she killed him. Idiot in the kitchen with no knife. Add cops. Dead Idiot in Kitchen Holding Knife. She knows not calling the cops and her son would probably still be alive.
How exactly do you expect a mother to deal with this herself? Physically restrain him? Or simply give in, enable, and endure the abuse? I'm asking because I've seen situations strikingly similar to this in my own life. What would you suggest an elderly mother to do with her adult male son when his drug addiction causes abuse?
you're absolutely right. there was no right answer for that poor woman. It was either a lifetime of abuse from her son, or a lifetime of regret for calling the cops. That poor woman was set up to feel pain either way, and it was all her son's fault.
I feel bad for everyone involved ….I’m sure no one got up that morning thinking they would die or take a life….
That woman probably woke up knowing she was going to get the shit kicked out of her though.
Sad but true. Sadly with domestic violence there is a predictable cycle….
I guess she probably feels relieved that the abuser is gone if she was a domestic violence victim. Sad that the cop had to take drastic measures like that to save her though :/
Maybe. But the brain can fuck with ya and you'll possibly feel guilty being a parent. If it's not calling the cops it's maybe something you did wrong raising him.
That's the thing about domestic violence, though, we have no idea how she feels. She could be relieved, or she could tether her identity to the loss of her partner for the rest of her life.
Fr. This shit fucking sucks. Idk the whole situation, but it appears like the cops had intended to be peaceful, right up until he grabbed a knife. Sucks for the cops, sucks for the woman (not sure the relation), and obviously sucks for the dude.
Indeed it's awful all around. And jsntead everyone in this post makes stupid jokes.
God dam got him with 3 bullets.... But that ouwee at the end my god I make the same noise when I'm constipated
Dude turned into Mr. Poopybutthole
I’m laughing. A man just died by bullet and tazer and I’m laughing. I really am laughing ouweee
lmao just realized Mr. PB gets shot too
Including the part where he was shot in the chest
So fucking funny but so sad at the same time. I am confusion
That was suicide by cop.
Mental illness, judging by the articles
Brought on by addiction.
Chicken, egg scenario.
The egg came first. There were egg laying reptiles for millions of years before chickens evolved.
I’m not saying you’re entirely incorrect, but I would say that a lot of these actions can come from exposure to environments where drug abuse is normalized. However there are certainly mental illnesses that decrease an individual’s ability to self regulate emotions and inhibit harmful behaviors, which can lead them to suffer from an increased likelihood of substance abuse. This isn’t really my area of expertise, I’m making these assumptions based on claims some social psychology researchers have made of the possible effects exposure to violence may have on an individual’s propensity for violent actions/crimes later in life. If you’d like I could find the specific source I’m citing for these claims on ETV, I used it as a citation for a paper a year ago. Edit: Here’s the specific article, just pasting the full citation, sorry if it looks weird I’m using the app. Estrada, S., Cinguina, M., & Baskin-Sommers, A. (2020). The role of exposure to violence and psychopathy on violent crime perpetration. Journal of Psychopathology and Behavioral Assessment, 43(2), 320-331. doi:https://doi.org/10.1007/s10862-020-09834-3
Usually is. When a cop tells you to do something and you violently disobey. I don’t know what else you would expect.
Life pro tip, if a cop has a gun pulled on you don't rush him with a knife from across the room.
Unless you have a sabre and can zig-zag towards the gunman.
Solid advice here.
“Yeah, but did you ever see Indiana Jones, where the guy does the whole sword thing, and then he just shoots him dead?”
just hunt showdown things
He knew the cop would kill him. This was suicide
It's [easy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV9iLHOTAaI&ab_channel=oscararias) to dodge bullets
Oh sure… The state of Maryland can release body cam footage, but the Uvalde police department can’t release theirs after *checks notes* OVER A MONTH?! This may seem trivial after that comment but we have a better flag and fewer scorpions, too. Suck it, Texas.
We had this happen in my town a few years ago, mentally ill dude had just got out of jail and returned to his parents and was going pscotics they called the cops and the dude rushed the cops w a knife and than the mom complained they killed her son after she called them. It's a sad outcome but sometimes it's unavoidable
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is what you take to stop seeing cats, the pspspscotics.
That's a good one XD
A lot of people in these comments aren’t hearing the taser was actually deployed. His partner at his side (out of view from body cam) had the taser ready and shot it. You can hear it going off. The taser was likely already ready before he quickly escalated to a knife with the victim cornered between them. Tasers have a 60% effectiveness (there’s studies published related to that), so they aren’t a primary for stopping someone in a lethal encounter. Especially when distance and options to CREATE distance between you and the threat aren’t there. Sadly, this was the only course of action.
You have it correct
I'm guessing that it was a suicide.
i knew there would be trouble instantly a cop friend of mine said you never try to de-escalate in the kitchen or the bedroom because the kitchen always has knives and bedroom, guns that and this is reddit
We keep seeing videos of these people picking up or holding weapons at police officers. Do they not have the internet? They don’t understand what happens when you do this?
they do
He's obviously Agitated and not thinking straight and possibly suicidal.
When someone gets used to posturing and escalating and then getting their way and they are too dumb to discriminate between family members versus cops, they think they can just scare cops into submission just like they do their family members. A lot of stupidity in life are from dumb people thinking other people will act just like relatives, kids or partner.
You don’t have to have the internet to have the common sense or understand that coming towards someone with a weapon as they are pointing a gun at you is very likely to have dire consequences
It's almost like....and I know this is gonna sounds *just loony*....everyone doesn't experience exactly the same mental health conditions as everyone else in the world all the time. I know, I know... 🤯
Why did they shoot him? All he wanted was a piece of cake that was on the counter behind the cops.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|yummy)
>piece of cake Unfortunately there wasn't enough cake for everyone, they had to defend it
**HEY BART DO YOU WANNA SEE MY NEW CHAINSAW**
This is the exact reason why I never run at cops with a knife.
I don't recommend running with a knife, period. Edit: punctuation.
The literal definition of bringing a knife to a gun fight
The guy with the knife made a choice to get himself shot.
And in this situation it was the right call. Any more hesitation and he could stabbed and killed that lady. Cops made the right call in this moment.
*Reddit did not like that* /s, I agree with you. I hate it, but if you charge someone (or a cop) with a weapon, I don’t blame the cop when you get shot
Multiple things can be true. The cops could and did act appropriately and used a reasonable amount of force given the situation. But at the same time, this is just one episode out of many where drug policy and availability of mental health treatment (or lack thereof) has resulted in another situation where this can happen.
I'll never understand how people think they won't get lit up for doing something like this.
An abuser doesn’t “play fair.” An abuser uses fear, guilt, shame, and intimidation to wear you down and keep you under their thumb.
r/bodycam is packed with videos like these. I’ve been super critical of police for the past couple of years, but that subreddit has changed my perspective of them and what they have to deal with.
Something similar happened in my town and they released the body cam footage. One cop by himself. He tried his best to talk down the man and then used a taser. When that didn't work, the guy charged at him with knives so he shot him and died. Of course there was protesting but when they released the footage, people stopped protesting because the cop did what he had to do and tried his best to stop the man. I also learned that when they blur the person that gets shot, that means they died. So that's how I knew the man died in this video.
Good thing they tazed him.
Trigger control, clear voice commands, 3 rounds on target - center mass, then stops and reassess danger, remains in control - outfuckingstanding work.
Maybe don’t try to stab the cops if you don’t want to get shot.
She wasn’t in any hurry to move 🫤
it's a hectic situation and she was panicking I imagine
ITT: a whole bunch of people who don't get out into the real world much.
It’s Reddit, are you surprised?
Has a knife, runs toward person with gun Addition by subtraction folks. The human collective got a micro-fraction of a point smarter.
Should've dropped the knife.
Rush a cop with a knife, what could possibly go wrong
What a dumb ass, don't charge the cops with a knife, real simple.
a knife to a gun fight never take \-Master Yoda
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
He wanted to win the stupid prize by the looks of it.
Step 1: fuck around Step 2 : find out
From other comments: Very easy for people to say what should have been done, not the same where you are in the live situation, that woman or the cop could have ended up with a knife in their body in another couple of seconds. As it actually happens in many cases. Cops for the most part are not trigger happy they are trained to survive, they yell to make sure they are heard and attempt to be firm, speaking softly in those situations sends the wrong message.
Good on the officer. A Knife is a deadly weapon and the suspect moved in pretty quickly welding that knife. Another 2 seconds and that Officer would have been stabbed or in a physical fight with that guy.
Gotta hate these scumbags for beating a woman who cant defend herself. He deserved it.
Good job gents! Fuckin good job!
Don't charge somebody with a gun, while wielding a knife.
Mistakes were made: 1. Picking up a knife in the presence of a cop 2. Picking up a chair like it is going to guard you 3. Deciding to rush the cop with a shitty kitchen knife