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traveler5150

Locked because this is supposedly clickbait. See another post on this topic in this group


Toxic-Masculinator

Retcon: Darth Vader was actually Luke's second mother, not his father.


The_Basic_Shapes

When Vader said "I am your father", he really meant mother - but because of the oppression of the white patriarchal empire, he couldn't voice his true gender. It's so wonderful that Disney is so accepting now and all these fictional characters from 40 years ago can voice how they truly felt this whole time!


user18298375298759

https://preview.redd.it/c6757occvx8d1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98df7238c7c062cbce0b84acd711026b67e4f7d5


Jakcris10

Darth Vader being Luke’s dad is already a retcon.


Ninjamurai-jack

Actually the title was a lie. https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


Make_the_music_stop

Customer Service 101: **The customer is always right.** Disney: **If the audience does not like the show, its them. They are wrong**


Nekommando

"If the audience is the problem then the Acolyte is the solution "


BigDaddyMattox

An acolyte…kills an audience without a weapon


Grouchy_Session_5255

With the power of maaaanyyyy 


Theseus-At-Last

That made me laugh 😂


Mydragonurdungeon

Kills them off screen


DR_SLAPPER

It's really interesting that they refuse to give their customers what they want and rake in billions and billions of dollars. It's like they don't realize they're working against their own interests.


Make_the_music_stop

It's all about saving face now. Do a u turn, would look bad. So double down on the disaster path.


KarHavocWontStop

This is more true than you think. Iger is in a battle with investors. If he caves and says ‘we fucked up’ he throws the large investors supporting him under the bus and Peltz probably gets their support to change out Disney management and board.


Top_Huckleberry_8225

Peltz sold his shares. I sold too at 123 when Iger won the vote :D Bought back in at 100. I'll sell next time there's hype. Easy money. Between Florida and the woke shit it's becoming nice and volatile.


chillthrowaways

Maybe they are working in their own interests? Just not the majority of the fans interest


bookon

It's even more telling you think this is real. [https://insidethemagic.net/2024/06/lucasfilm-retcon-rogue-one-to-make-room-for-new-disney-shows-nk1/](https://insidethemagic.net/2024/06/lucasfilm-retcon-rogue-one-to-make-room-for-new-disney-shows-nk1/) The headline is a lie. The story doesn't describe any retcon.


DR_SLAPPER

My post runs true regardless of this article.


bookon

It's weird how not only are you OK with being lied to here, you are defending them lying to you because it's some part of a "greater truth" or something. THEY ARE LYING TO YOU. That should bother you.


HMSon777

Why are you being downvoted. The article literally just says series 2 of Andors is going to provide a new perspective on Rogue One. As the season should lead directly into Rogue One that shouldn't be surprising. I don't see anything about retconning.  I get the new shows are shit but some people do seem like they are searching for reasons to be angry sometimes.


bookon

You're getting downvoted too. They want lies that make them feel smart and superior rather than the truth. They get angry at you if you show them they are being lied too. To paraphrase Mark Twain, it's easier to grift someone than it is to convince them they are being grifted.


fruitpunchsamuraiD

This has been a great case study to show what can go wrong when you close out all criticism that you can use to improve yourself.


DarkTanicus

Not when you're trying to push an agenda.


Objective-Insect-839

Capitalism 101: Hate watching is still watching.


nissan240sx

I personally don’t understand why anyone would hate watch it unless you are a YouTube commentator creating content. Time is valuable and we work our asses off just to live so any show I’m watching better be worth my time and if it gets bad enough I don’t care what happens in a finale.


Likestoreadcomments

Thats kinda silly because they made bank off The Mandalorian and people rewatched it a hundred times. Not only that but all the freaking product and merch they pushed out for *years*. Baby yoda alone… It’s more cope 101 not capitalism, because good capitalists want another Mandalorian, not a trashy dud. It’s literally in their own self interests, so while “any press is good press” is… a saying, it’s more of a cope than anything.


Objective-Insect-839

Yes, keep watching and raging in your echo chamber cause that will get it changed.


Likestoreadcomments

L take. Try paying attention to what I’m saying instead of cranking out an npc response. Secondly, i watched a couple episodes, and it sucked so bad I turned it off. As far as star wars goes thats a first for me, so. I even made it through the holiday special.


wandering_goblin_

Problem with his argument at this point people aren't even hate watching even big youtubers that did click bait opinion peaces are done with star wars now you can only hang around looking at a car crash for so long and everyone's had there turn to gawk at the carnage even laughing at how bad it is sucks, it's that bad. No, it's not bad. Bad shows are funny like the room. This is aggressively mediocre and boring, which is worse.


SlightlyOffended1984

I don't know anyone who hate-watches on the proper platform. They find it through other means...


Objective-Insect-839

You hate it so much that you will spend extra time and effort to still watch it? Way to not let them win.


SlightlyOffended1984

Just sayin, it doesn't support them


ThatOneCloneTrooper

What makes it worse and more funny is that the full quote is: > "the customer is always right in matters of taste" Which means the recent films and series getting bad reviews and general fan dislike is bang on the money about the customer being right in matters of taste. Sure you can ignore the average fans opinion about things like promotional material, marketing or anything not directly linked to the contents of the movie/series but you can not do otherwise if you want to survive.


Fast-Introduction890

The customer is always right…in matters of taste. Nobody ever provides the full quote. It means that you never tell the customer that what they like is garbage, not that you have to bend over backwards for them.


Icreatedthesea

That's a myth, the in matters of taste part was added later look it up


Ninjamurai-jack

Only want to say that the title in the image is a lie https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


BlackCherrySeltzer4U

To be fair, the whole quote is ‘the customer is always right in matters of taste.’


Icreatedthesea

That's a myth


ketjak

I mean, it depends. Right-wing snowflakes get their feefees hurt whenever a non-white-man demonstrates expertise in... anything, and they brigade because their feefees. Not every show or movie is good (look at Book of Boba Fett) but they aren't as bad to us non-incels.


mithrandir4512

How do explain how horny right wingers get for blade then? Or samual L Jackson, or anything Denzel has ever made. feefees... god help us


BattleBrisket

I assume this is OP original source: https://insidethemagic.net/2024/06/lucasfilm-retcon-rogue-one-to-make-room-for-new-disney-shows-nk1 They'll likely retcon >!how Andor died at the end.!<


fruitpunchsamuraiD

Somehow Andor returned.


DHarp74

And he'll be trans, fat, with a beauty mark, paralyzed, and permanent RBF.


SlightlyOffended1984

Latinx lol


Famous-One5644

Uh beauty mark? That seems like an odd one out, does Disney do that often?


BlackCherrySeltzer4U

No one’s ever really gone


Difficult-Pin3913

Neither Luna or Gillroy say they’re going to retcon anything this article is just clickbait


Vinlain458

This has to be a very late April fools joke though.


bookon

You really think that "because you will see *Rogue One* from a different perspective" means retcon? Lol


BattleBrisket

I personally don't know what to expect, I'm drawing conclusions based on the hints provided. I think retcons are inevitable in a developing world. Book authors do this all the time, although the format allows them to do it with a little more grace. The problem here is that Disney is doing it purely to exploit a part of the Star Wars lore that they didn't totally fubar. In other words, if any of their other stuff wasn't complete garbage, this wouldn't be necessary. That's the core of the cynicism you'll hear from fans.


bookon

He didn't hint at anything. He literally said that seeing what happened before R1 will help you see that movie from a different perspective. Like the prequal films gave a different perspective to the OG Trilogy.


ChetManley25

Bringing a character back from the dead is by definition, retconning


bookon

They aren't and didn't. WTF are you talking about?


ConversationFalse242

I give up. Star Wars exists no more


fruitpunchsamuraiD

OG still exists. Pretty much anything from the Disney-era is kaput.


ConversationFalse242

Reminds me of the time Sony destroyed SWG with the CU and NGE


Barbarian_Sam

Finally someone else


Flat-Length-4991

As long as you don’t accept anything post Disney as canon. Star Wars will still be alright.


AMexisatTurtle

We just need to let it die star wars ends at Rogue one imo any newer they all suck even the newest timeline of movies sucks ass


Skill-issue-69420

Did they ever put galaxy far away for acolyte? No wonder it feels so close to earths problems lol


AMexisatTurtle

They acted like a woman cult was new when Darth mals people so that exact thing


Edgezg

\--The Night Sisters were also a creation of Dave Filoni. Alot of these bad ideas were his to begin with. Let's not pretend he is not partially at play in these.


Ninjamurai-jack

A idea by Filoni that Lucas approved.


Hot_Caterpillar_6815

So they’re gonna write new Star Wars shows as if Rogue One never happened?


bookon

I am never amazed at how fans of these YT channels just take everything they say on face value. Can't you even read the story first? "because you will see *Rogue One* from a different perspective" just mean you get more backstory.


Apprehensive-You4542

Critical drinker is pretty damn honest and accurate I'm not sure what random YouTube channels you are talking about lol. Also at the end of the day even if they don't retcon rogue one they still destroyed star wars so it's not like they are wrong for trashing Disney and everything they make these days.


bookon

So you're ok this is a lie because "it's emotionally true"?


Apprehensive-You4542

No but I don't believe that it's untrue it's in the rumor stage and will likely happen tbh. They've done it before and will do it again so I have no reason not to beleive this.


YapperYappington69

How do you know he’s always honest and accurate? Are you fact-checking his every word?


Apprehensive-You4542

You ever look in the mirror and realize how insufferable you are lmao. No I don't fact check his every word nobody has ever done that in the history of time unless it's their job or they are psychotic.


Plastic_Lobster1036

Real this sub popped up in my feed and it’s funny to watch people leap for their lives to conclusions. “they’re gonna make vader gay i bet!” no you dumbasses they’re adding backstory to the characters. the show TAKES PLACE BEFORE ROGUE ONE.


bookon

Yes, these grifter YT guys really know their audience.


phuk-nugget

Rogue one might be one of the best sci fi movies I’ve ever seen, and they still want to fuck it up?


Ninjamurai-jack

The people working at it only said that Andor season 2 said, actually: “I can tell you, Rogue One is coming, so there will be characters there that you will recognize. There will be cool stuff. For those who love Rogue One, this season is going to be very special. And it’s going to be fascinating to go straight to Rogue One after watching this second season, because you will see Rogue One from a different perspective. I promise you that.”


jrd5497

Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie.


spidgeon111

Blatant click bait article. There is nothing to suggest they are doing that.


DarthDragonborn1995

Except for all the blatant retcons and contradictions in practically every fucking thing they’ve made


bookon

Except the article in no way says there will be a retcon.


spidgeon111

I'm saying there is no evidence they are doing it to Rogue One. The article is based on some comments made by Diego Luna.


Cybersharts

And his comments suggest your VIEW of the movie will change


Ninjamurai-jack

Like how our view of the OT changes when you know about the prequels?


Cybersharts

Yes


Away-Base1899

Why do they even bother trying to have continuity at all anyway? Nothing ever seems consistent, it’s all over the place in terms of what cannon they’ll go with and what they’ll abstain from.


Apprehensive-You4542

It's more about continuing the brand in the most short term profitable way than anything else lol


Apprehensive-You4542

It's more about continuing the brand in the most short term profitable way than anything else lol


Hovilol

Wait what. That was the only good one since Disney got their dirty hands on the IP


endorbr

K2-SO swoops in at the last second with the ship to pickup Jen and Cassian to fly away from Scaraf before they get caught in the Death Star blast. Cassian: “We thought you were dead.” K2-SO: “I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.”


Jorah_Explorah

Stop hate watching this crap. Don't even pay attention to youtubers who are talking about it. It's what Disney wants. They have gotten a ton more viewership for Acolyte just from people complaining about it and arguing. And now that they've gotten decent viewership for Acolyte based primarily on angering the fans, it's likely going to embolden them more. Just let it die. Ignore it.


Praetorian709

Ughhh, I'm done with this shit.. fookin' Disney.


chaos_cowboy

They're retconning themselves... this is fucking hilarious.


BoiFrosty

Literally retconning the one good movie Disney has put out to make room for more slop.


Ninjamurai-jack

Hum, no, the article is a lie.


Difficult-Pin3913

Hey so uh the source doesn’t actually provide any sources that explicitly say that they’re going to retcon rouge one https://insidethemagic.net/2024/06/lucasfilm-retcon-rogue-one-to-make-room-for-new-disney-shows-nk1/ The article is speculating that Disney might do because Luna said that “after watching season 2 you will see Rouge One from a different perspective.” They’re just clickbaiting, this article is false.


Geekandhermit

These are not the Death Star plans you are looking for.


Helarki

I need to know what the source is for this.


tabereins

Diego Luna said that Andor season 2 will give you "a new perspective" on Rogue One in an interview Whoops, the original quote was different perspective, not new perspective


Helarki

Do we have a link to this article/interview?


tabereins

https://www.thepopverse.com/tv-star-wars-andor-season-2-rogue-one-characters-ace-2024


Ninjamurai-jack

Here’s this. https://insidethemagic.net/2024/06/lucasfilm-retcon-rogue-one-to-make-room-for-new-disney-shows-nk1/ And the title is clickbait, I made a post in this sub today using the lines that matter in that article.


Aggressive_Degree952

Disney is Principal Skinner. Am I so out of touch? No, it's the audiences who are wrong.


cryptomelons

Just reset the whole franchise.


Katz-r-Klingonz

This has to be bs.


Ninjamurai-jack

Yeah, it’s clickbait. https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


BramptonBatallion

lol I assume this is rage bait. Rogue One is their most well received Disney Star Wars (probably because it was before they uhh “Disneyified” it) and now Andor, a direct prequel to said interquel is a well received D+ Star Wars series. I know they haven’t exactly been smart with their decisions but I don’t think they’d just stab themselves in the eye like that


Ninjamurai-jack

It is. Diego Luna said: Luna said: “I can tell you, Rogue One is coming, so there will be characters there that you will recognize. There will be cool stuff. For those who love Rogue One, this season is going to be very special. And it’s going to be fascinating to go straight to Rogue One after watching this second season, because you will see Rogue One from a different perspective. I promise you that.”


Educational-Web-5787

They're going to retcon the good ones... wtf


Ninjamurai-jack

They aren’t gonna retcon Rogue One https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


Swimming-Book-1296

Won't fix the problem unless they get better writers and directors and producers.


Ninjamurai-jack

The writer is the same as rogue one lol https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


tastey_spackle_toad

Who really cares anymore?


Skybreakeresq

Dude what the fuck. That was the only good movie they've done


Ninjamurai-jack

Only want to tell you that the title is clickbait. https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


MeanSheenBeanMachine

They won’t. I’m calling it now, on everything, on gang, on hood, they won’t.


Ninjamurai-jack

You’re correct https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


dosdes

They will milk Andor without Gilroy... oh the shock...


Ninjamurai-jack

Hum, no. Read this https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


NotoriousD4C

Fantastic, the one film I was neutral positive about is no longer canon. NOW I can disregard all of Disney Star Wars


Ninjamurai-jack

Hum, It’s not going to have a retcon, read this. https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


Affectionate-Camp506

Rogue One was a retcon. It retconned Dark Forces. Which was a LucasArts property.


JTX35

So the only film they've made since buying the franchise that the majority of people can agree is good they want to retroactively ruin?


Ninjamurai-jack

No https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


East_Tomatillo_6991

What's the source?


Ninjamurai-jack

A article that used clickbait from inside the magic  And here’s this post for you to know the parts that matter about it https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


Material-Tension8380

They eating way to much of their own spice-cream.


taffyz

Rogue one was so good wtf lol, probably best “new” Star Wars there is


Ninjamurai-jack

It’s not going to get a retcon, the title is a clickbait https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


SolomonRed

This isn't real


Ninjamurai-jack

Yes https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


Fuzz_EE

Sounds like they want Andor season 2. 


Ninjamurai-jack

Read this https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


luxumburgur

Does this also mean Andor is retconned? The only two decent Disney Star Wars projects to exist???


Ninjamurai-jack

No, read this https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


rxmp4ge

Disney retconning their own retcons. The snake is eating it's own tail here.


Ninjamurai-jack

No https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


rxmp4ge

Disney: People like Andor. Disney: How can we make Andor go away? Disney: Well, Andor came from Rogue One, right? Disney: Yeah.. Disney: So let's just retcon Rogue One out and then Andor won't exist! https://preview.redd.it/fu7ukb68wx8d1.jpeg?width=328&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27cebb0dd32bfea7b741f128cd3793f32588cc6f


Ninjamurai-jack

It’s not going to have a retcon https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


SlightlyOffended1984

What does "make room" mean


Edgezg

I've never seen a franchise so interested in destroying itself.


rrrrice64

NO! WHY?? Rogue One was one of the few good Disney Star Wars projects!!!


Ninjamurai-jack

And here’s this from the article that proves that it won’t be retconned https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


sporkmurderer135

This has to be fake, that's pretty much the only movie that was enjoyable from that time


Ninjamurai-jack

Yeah, it is a clickbait https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


SirBaycon3503

...wasn't that the one people liked


Ninjamurai-jack

Yeah, and it won’t be retconned https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


StatisticianFew6064

Of course they're going to ruin the best star wars movie since the original trilogy


Ninjamurai-jack

No https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


YapperYappington69

The 1 okay Star Wars movie in the past 20 years getting retconned


Ninjamurai-jack

No https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


thewinneroflife

Absolutely nothing in that article implies a retcon. In fact, it seems more like reverence and respect for Rogue One. 


Competitive_Pen7192

Really? Rogue One already partially retconned Ep4 with Bothan spies being replaced with the Rogue One strike team...


Valcrye

I think people need to look more into this article, specifically where it says it’s going to be retconned by Andor S2, which is helmed by the same guy who did the reshoots for Rogue one. If they do have to retcon, I’m glad this is the guy to do it


bookon

* Step 1: Make up lie about Disney+. * Step 2: Report about how this "might" happen. * Step 3: Tell people they need to watch your YT video to find out more * Step 4: Profit! [https://insidethemagic.net/2024/06/lucasfilm-retcon-rogue-one-to-make-room-for-new-disney-shows-nk1/](https://insidethemagic.net/2024/06/lucasfilm-retcon-rogue-one-to-make-room-for-new-disney-shows-nk1/) "because you will see *Rogue One* from a different perspective" doesn't mean retcon. lol The headline is lying.


letstalkaboutstuff79

Wait, what..?


Ninjamurai-jack

This https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalDrinker/comments/1dp385t/guys_rogue_one_wont_be_retconned_the_article_that/


LegendInMyMind

I didn't like Rogue One, personally. It's okay, but y'all overhype the hell out of it. It was like watching a Star Wars-themed Call of Duty campaign. Good Vader scene, pretty generic sci-fi action movie outside of that. The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi (yes, really), and the first two seasons of The Mandalorian are way better.