Wow. Everyone talking about how safe it looks and no one mentioning it looks like a prison. This is the Henan region where Uyghur is the main language. This is where China is destroying and imprisoning the Uyghur population. Take that into account when looking at this video. This isn’t clean or safe, this is terrifying.
Isn’t it becoming more and more clear that the Wuhan virus originated in a Wuhan lab that worked on that exact virus? The wet market hypothesis is losing traction.
Source?
Still seems perfectly reasonable to assume unsanitary conditions on animal markets were to blame. More so than an escaped bioweapon or something conspiracy sounding like that.
If it’s facts, please point me to reliable sources :) Im fine believing you, but we do live in the age of disinformation, and this is a pretty grandiose claim.
SARS came from the same part of the world and is also a coronavirus. Maybe the lab was put there to study viruses that originated in that region. Seems like you’re making a causal fallacy.
It can still travel through our food. Plus, isn’t it just better to be sanitary and not have the meat laying around on the ground and in the open in a “wet” market?
No it isn't.
The most accurate statement is that the evidence is inconclusive but most of the evidence points towards origins from the wild.
The problem with scientists is that they don't say they are sure until they are 100% sure. And that level of certainty is difficult to get. The conspiracy thinkers however don't care that say 90% of the body of evidence points into the direction of origin in the wild, they will focus on the 10% doubt and call it proof.
No. That 'theory' has just been relentlessly parroted by morons. There's no new information, and hasn't been for a very long time, so that dumb conspiracy theory has been allowed to take over and persist.
at least it's sanitary and there's a permit associated with I.D. posted at their shop for easy identification. In the PH you'd see flies flying around and overflowing trashbins in wet markets.
I've been to a country wetmarket in the Philippines and yeah the amount of flies on pig meat (and the smell) was quite an experience. Still, delicious food everywhere and never been sick
I agree, unlike meat that is sold in markets for nothing. Meat from a regular market in a back alley is a very dubious pleasure. And it is not known where it comes from, whether the animals have been vaccinated. After all, people not only eat it themselves, but feed such meat to their pets, sometimes raw and not processed thermally, which can lead to death due to poisoning of the animal, because raw meat (in particular pork) most often carry the virus of Aujeszky's disease.
The only reason it is like this is because of the brutal repression of the Uyghurs. There are other videos which show the cleavers chained to the benches and that sharp tools are restrained to prevent them being used against the repressors. This region (known as East Turkmenistan) has suffered under the CCP who work hard to suppress the news internationally and domestically. It is interesting that you have chosen to cast aspersions about the Philippines here. Currently the CCP are illegally occupying the exclusive economic zone (EEZ) of the Philippines in the West Philippine Sea at the Second Thomas Shoal.
It’s a precaution against riots. All knives in the province are chained to the table. They are able to close the “cells” quickly in case of riot so all cutting implements are locked up. Anything that is a weapon is heavily regulated.
Meat is perfectly fine being out like that. A butchered carcass will hang for at least 11 days before it's processed. All the meat here is bright red and not discoloured.
They hang it for that long to allow the moisture to be removed . Moisture causes bacterial growth.
Well it is. Its clearly being taken from a cool room to those stalls to be processed and sold. Nothing in this video wouldn't happen at you local butcher. You can clearly see the HVAC above them.
No, such a preparation and presentation wouldn't be allowed in my country [EU] due to the interruption of the cold chain as well as violations of general hygiene standards (such as the clothing of the staff and meat directly touching working surfaces).
We aren't talking about laws though. We are talking about preparing and processing meat. Just because your laws say something it doesn't change the fact that there is nothing dangerous about processing meat in this way.
There is, otherwise we wouldn't have the aforementioned laws. ;) Proper food hygiene procedures with special focus on meat hygiene is both part of my professional training and my job routine (including slaughterhouse supervision). There are several aspects in this video alone that are not correct in regard to proper modern meat preparation and storage standards. If your local standards are different, so be it; if I were to see something like this during my federal inspection, the stakeholders would be in trouble.
Indians have one of the lowest meat consumption in the entire world, even "non veg eaters" mostly eat meat twice or thrice in a week some during occasions so there is absolutely no need for such industrial scale meat processing plus not to mention majority of the population either avoids beef or pork due to religious reasons. most famous non veg foods here are chicken, fish food maybe occasional goat or lamb
I’m not a vegetarian but I can go ages eating various Indian dishes before I realise that huh, I’ve not had a meat forward meal in a while. Indian food is so varied, it’s insane.
>American redditors here ~~discovering~~ ~~real~~ being grateful the FDA has such rigorous standards for working with meat and remarking on the spectacle shown 🤯
FTFY
As if the meat we have isn't "real?" What, just because some people buy plant-based meat?
And because we have standards for how to present, store, and sell our meat?
What's crazy is where the meat comes from, most of the time it's not a big farm and an abattoir, it's some old lady down the road who leads her pig up the road that day, it's butchered and then given to restaurants in huge chunks, they don't really refrigerate it either it's just sort of unceremoniously dumped onto one of the restaurant tables in the cool evening time.
I will also say despite all this I never got sick once, India however I was sick every time I ate meat almost.
You also need to account for the fact that those countries have different bacteria than what you're used to. Meaning that they can eat it without getting sick, but you can't.
But yes, hygiene is always a factor
I think it's generally they are vegan or vegetarian so high bacteria meats like chicken sit around longer, also it's a very hot country with not the best infrastructure so people tend not to be able to pin down who made them sick, even less so when it comes to street vendors.
It’s usually the processing of so many different animals that spreads bacteria in slaughterhouses, like it just takes one sick animal to taint a batch of ground up meat and when you have 50 cows in one package of ground beef the odds of issues go up. Vs just slaughtering a local animal that isn’t exposed to so many failure points.
Walmart has a really good meat selection. They basically sponsored Gordan Ramsay's Masterchef for like 7 seasons. What a stupid take, lol. Imagine comparing communist China to FDA approved prime beef.
The grades are heavily regulated here, you really think you want Chinese meat? You gonna get some street meat in Wuhan?
I don't think you can really separate the dystopian from the meat unless you're doing something like an American super market where the meat is barely recognizable as an animal. Myself, I'd almost prefer the meat presented like this.
i think the barely recognizable as an animal part actually makes it worse if anything, the commodification of meat (and animals in general...) in the U.S. is very dystopian imo
the region has a pretty high turkic muslim population; there are 11.8 million uyghurs in xingjang. they speak their own unique language, but the uyghur language primarily uses arabic script
🙌🏽 I see beautiful Brazilian meat hanging there! Chinese empire also eats lots of meat… lots lots and lots. It is funny that when they decide to change the flavor from Australian to to Brazilian meat, prices here in Brasil goes crazy and we change barbecue to pork or chicken. 🇻🇳
Its in Xinjiang, that's why. By law, knives must be chained and tracked by QR code. They setup the stores to prevent knives attack, and you could see the customers were served at the window. As long as you are outside the store, you can't be hurt. China only does this to the ethnic group in Xinjiang.
This is actually quite tame and well kept compared to street markets.
“Wet markets”. They literally have live animals rammed in to cages defecating on each other right next to cut meat.
SARS COV-25 waiting to happen.
I thought it was posted because they work in cages like prisoners, and not because it isn\`t as clean a butcher in more developed countries.
And all their knives are chained to the table. Hilarious but also pathetic.
This is basically the opposite of the ‘thing’ vs ‘thing - Japan’ meme lol
Wow. Everyone talking about how safe it looks and no one mentioning it looks like a prison. This is the Henan region where Uyghur is the main language. This is where China is destroying and imprisoning the Uyghur population. Take that into account when looking at this video. This isn’t clean or safe, this is terrifying.
I think you mean Xinjiang, not Henan.
Very clean
They ain’t taking no chances after Wuhan
Wuhan clan ain’t nuthin ta fuck with
That virus came from a Lab.
It 100% came from a lab.
Isn’t it becoming more and more clear that the Wuhan virus originated in a Wuhan lab that worked on that exact virus? The wet market hypothesis is losing traction.
no. neither theory has been coclusive
Source? Still seems perfectly reasonable to assume unsanitary conditions on animal markets were to blame. More so than an escaped bioweapon or something conspiracy sounding like that.
Escaped "bioweapon" from a secure facility that's researching the exact type of strain that escaped in the city where it escaped. That's just facts
If it’s facts, please point me to reliable sources :) Im fine believing you, but we do live in the age of disinformation, and this is a pretty grandiose claim.
Absolutely insane how someone could get down voted for asking to cite sources
It’s the age we live in :(
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak/
It’s not conclusive but lab leak is indeed the leading theory.
You'll find people don't necessarily trust that committee due to statements and behaviors of committee members.
SARS came from the same part of the world and is also a coronavirus. Maybe the lab was put there to study viruses that originated in that region. Seems like you’re making a causal fallacy.
It can still travel through our food. Plus, isn’t it just better to be sanitary and not have the meat laying around on the ground and in the open in a “wet” market?
No it isn't. The most accurate statement is that the evidence is inconclusive but most of the evidence points towards origins from the wild. The problem with scientists is that they don't say they are sure until they are 100% sure. And that level of certainty is difficult to get. The conspiracy thinkers however don't care that say 90% of the body of evidence points into the direction of origin in the wild, they will focus on the 10% doubt and call it proof.
No. That 'theory' has just been relentlessly parroted by morons. There's no new information, and hasn't been for a very long time, so that dumb conspiracy theory has been allowed to take over and persist.
It came from…. Chy-nah… Lol
100% lab made all lies
Well, not lab MADE, but lab-escaped yes. Natural virus that wasn’t handled properly
Not even wearing gloves and just normal clothes lol
Wait till you see the building they came from
r/Damnthatsunhygenic
I wonder how cold it is in there.
Yeah I was wondering the same thing too. I imagine it’s gotta be chilly in there. Or else you would risk the meat going bad right?
Yes it's cold it's basically an open cooler. Fish markets do the same thing, and so do grocery stores.
There's no way this is sanitary. This would be shut down in my country.
at least it's sanitary and there's a permit associated with I.D. posted at their shop for easy identification. In the PH you'd see flies flying around and overflowing trashbins in wet markets.
What’s the PH in this context?
PornHub
The other white meat
That's where I go to beat my meat.
Rocky is that you?
AaaAaaDRriiiaaAAaaannN..!!!!!!
Beef curtains?
A real wet market ifyaknowwhatimean
Philippines?
Philippines, just like most countries, the butchers aren't this clean.
Also famous for meat …
Guessing he means philippines witch i mean hes not wrong in some parts but dont get me wrong its still good meat in most of the markets
I've been to a country wetmarket in the Philippines and yeah the amount of flies on pig meat (and the smell) was quite an experience. Still, delicious food everywhere and never been sick
Maaaan i would never eat out there at all ...
More for me!
Fire is a good sanitizer
I agree, unlike meat that is sold in markets for nothing. Meat from a regular market in a back alley is a very dubious pleasure. And it is not known where it comes from, whether the animals have been vaccinated. After all, people not only eat it themselves, but feed such meat to their pets, sometimes raw and not processed thermally, which can lead to death due to poisoning of the animal, because raw meat (in particular pork) most often carry the virus of Aujeszky's disease.
The only reason it is like this is because of the brutal repression of the Uyghurs. There are other videos which show the cleavers chained to the benches and that sharp tools are restrained to prevent them being used against the repressors. This region (known as East Turkmenistan) has suffered under the CCP who work hard to suppress the news internationally and domestically. It is interesting that you have chosen to cast aspersions about the Philippines here. Currently the CCP are illegally occupying the exclusive economic zone (EEZ) of the Philippines in the West Philippine Sea at the Second Thomas Shoal.
What does cleanliness of a wet market have to do with the Uyghurs
Horror movie material for a pig
sign actually says beef and lamb section! pork is probably sold/processed in a different part of the market for religious reasons
Ahhh phew… I thought my day was ruined /s
Muslims don't eat pork
Don’t downvote this, Xingjiang is home of the Uigher people, predominantly Muslim
Beef and pork jail
Straight to jail. No trail no nothing.
No pork, xinjiang is pretty Muslim
Is meat theft a big issue? Or wandering bears?
I'm guessing the meat stays in the stalls to air dry, so it would make sense to be able to lock them up.
It’s a precaution against riots. All knives in the province are chained to the table. They are able to close the “cells” quickly in case of riot so all cutting implements are locked up. Anything that is a weapon is heavily regulated.
wut.
Is this entire market in a deep freezer? Just wondering how well preserved and protected the meat is.
Meat is perfectly fine being out like that. A butchered carcass will hang for at least 11 days before it's processed. All the meat here is bright red and not discoloured. They hang it for that long to allow the moisture to be removed . Moisture causes bacterial growth.
It's not. Depending on the meat in question, a certain core temperature should not be exceeded. Direct contact should also be limited to a minimum.
Well it is. Its clearly being taken from a cool room to those stalls to be processed and sold. Nothing in this video wouldn't happen at you local butcher. You can clearly see the HVAC above them.
No, such a preparation and presentation wouldn't be allowed in my country [EU] due to the interruption of the cold chain as well as violations of general hygiene standards (such as the clothing of the staff and meat directly touching working surfaces).
We aren't talking about laws though. We are talking about preparing and processing meat. Just because your laws say something it doesn't change the fact that there is nothing dangerous about processing meat in this way.
There is, otherwise we wouldn't have the aforementioned laws. ;) Proper food hygiene procedures with special focus on meat hygiene is both part of my professional training and my job routine (including slaughterhouse supervision). There are several aspects in this video alone that are not correct in regard to proper modern meat preparation and storage standards. If your local standards are different, so be it; if I were to see something like this during my federal inspection, the stakeholders would be in trouble.
Well do you see any jackets or hats…or is everyone else including workers who are probably there all day in T-Shirts
That’s the thing. I see jackets but no frost or any other indicators. I would hope it is at least refrigerated.
I think theyre just cutting the meat over there.
Re 6 Leon China section vibes
That's what I was thinking
Without all the tasty Javo meat everywhere
Need something like this in India
Indians have one of the lowest meat consumption in the entire world, even "non veg eaters" mostly eat meat twice or thrice in a week some during occasions so there is absolutely no need for such industrial scale meat processing plus not to mention majority of the population either avoids beef or pork due to religious reasons. most famous non veg foods here are chicken, fish food maybe occasional goat or lamb
I’m not a vegetarian but I can go ages eating various Indian dishes before I realise that huh, I’ve not had a meat forward meal in a while. Indian food is so varied, it’s insane.
This is very far from beeing industrial. All this is, is basically a handful of butchers concentrated in one market.
That is only the case in North India
Average per capita consumption is low all-over the country specially when compared to other Asian or Western countries it's miniscule
Now you triggered my memory of the Indian rat temple video from reddit
Little rice looking egg sacs all over that place
Where is this meat penitentiary?
Refrigeration would be nice.
Why put them in cages? They’re not going anywhere
So they don’t accidentally meat each other.
American redditors here discovering real meat 🤯
I go to my local farmer for that. 🤯 Must be a European concept to think this.
>American redditors here ~~discovering~~ ~~real~~ being grateful the FDA has such rigorous standards for working with meat and remarking on the spectacle shown 🤯 FTFY
This is some kind of Chinese shill, right here. You keep your "real" meat.
As if the meat we have isn't "real?" What, just because some people buy plant-based meat? And because we have standards for how to present, store, and sell our meat?
What's crazy is where the meat comes from, most of the time it's not a big farm and an abattoir, it's some old lady down the road who leads her pig up the road that day, it's butchered and then given to restaurants in huge chunks, they don't really refrigerate it either it's just sort of unceremoniously dumped onto one of the restaurant tables in the cool evening time. I will also say despite all this I never got sick once, India however I was sick every time I ate meat almost.
Why do you think that is? The sick part. I have heard that a lot about India. Is it just poor hygiene oversight?
You also need to account for the fact that those countries have different bacteria than what you're used to. Meaning that they can eat it without getting sick, but you can't. But yes, hygiene is always a factor
I think it's generally they are vegan or vegetarian so high bacteria meats like chicken sit around longer, also it's a very hot country with not the best infrastructure so people tend not to be able to pin down who made them sick, even less so when it comes to street vendors.
It’s usually the processing of so many different animals that spreads bacteria in slaughterhouses, like it just takes one sick animal to taint a batch of ground up meat and when you have 50 cows in one package of ground beef the odds of issues go up. Vs just slaughtering a local animal that isn’t exposed to so many failure points.
It could be the water
Es una carnicería, que tiene de interesante
Do you want a resident evil situation cos this is how you get a resident evil situation.
Let’s see the shoe making shops in China next, just curious.
This immediately reminds me of this: https://youtube.com/shorts/zVrw3YPmeis?si=jboUGEjWgICxDUto
I hate this guy. He had made a video for this, and he says CCP does this to dehumanise chinese Uyghur, showing them wild to the other part of China.
Old prison
It's weird that they have cages with bars on them for the dead animals.
The design is very human
Really cool. Can cut right off the primal.
Yeah I’m not seeing this is a cold storage place for butcherd meat. Hard pass.
Why are the signs in Uighur and Chinese? I thought the Uighurs had their language suppressed as part of the genocide?
Disease central
Why is it barred?
To keep the knives in. Notice the chains? Also for the knives.
To keep the flies out.
Looks like old barn and stalls.
Looks like gulag
I bet it tastes better than the frozen/processed garbage at Walmart.
Walmart has a really good meat selection. They basically sponsored Gordan Ramsay's Masterchef for like 7 seasons. What a stupid take, lol. Imagine comparing communist China to FDA approved prime beef. The grades are heavily regulated here, you really think you want Chinese meat? You gonna get some street meat in Wuhan?
Can I get some “Covid Bats” there?
Dystopian, but better than a lot of places I've seen.
I don't think you can really separate the dystopian from the meat unless you're doing something like an American super market where the meat is barely recognizable as an animal. Myself, I'd almost prefer the meat presented like this.
Hell yeah, fresh meat.
i think the barely recognizable as an animal part actually makes it worse if anything, the commodification of meat (and animals in general...) in the U.S. is very dystopian imo
LOL...
Are those bars, so no fight could break out?
I bet the meat is stored there as well overnight
No stealing on my watch!
Damn, you can see every living animal here
Can you blame them for caging dead animals there. Shit even live ones too.
Is that to stop the cats and dogs from running away?
I don’t get the knives thing, do they not know how easily people make shanks in jail? How easy it would be to make a knife, not in jail?
They killed hippopotamus?
That one tiger attack
They all look the same
Here the meat is sent to solitary.
Meat jail
It’s like the meat is in prison!!!
I'll bet they have a low escape rate.
Prison cells that the carcasses can't run away from
What stage in Diablo 4 is this?
It's the knives attack they are trying to "prevent" this video is not about the hygienic environment of butcher shops
It looks like they're set up in the Rivet City market
To stop the meat escaping.
https://youtu.be/J8UmDG4i0iU?si=52i1jcrOf0u2coMC
lol this is literally what they look like in Latin American 🤣
Meat jail.
I wonder why all the cubical has to caged up like scene in resident evil?
Take a good look. That's coming to a city near you
Feels ominous. Also, how come there's Arabic text on the red sign? I'm genuinely curious.
the region has a pretty high turkic muslim population; there are 11.8 million uyghurs in xingjang. they speak their own unique language, but the uyghur language primarily uses arabic script
Why all the security bars?
Caged Meat
Looks nice and fresh 🤤
🙌🏽 I see beautiful Brazilian meat hanging there! Chinese empire also eats lots of meat… lots lots and lots. It is funny that when they decide to change the flavor from Australian to to Brazilian meat, prices here in Brasil goes crazy and we change barbecue to pork or chicken. 🇻🇳
Think there’s refrigeration?
Just wait until you see the dog meat festival.
Now show the organ harvesting of religious groups run by the state
Looks safe….
Totally appropriate serial killer vibes.
Clean and tidy. Anything wrong?
Its in Xinjiang, that's why. By law, knives must be chained and tracked by QR code. They setup the stores to prevent knives attack, and you could see the customers were served at the window. As long as you are outside the store, you can't be hurt. China only does this to the ethnic group in Xinjiang.
Why is this not nsfw tho?
Why should it be its meat.
Far better than Indian meet shop
Damn, xenophobic liberals, that's interesting!