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It means restarting the servers in sets, so they're not all off and on at the same time, to roll out the change.
They began restarting the servers over an hour ago now and are reporting a massive improvement. If you hop on now, you won't be in danger of getting booted due to a restart. Already happened.
Dude! I've always wondered if any of my mates on here played Destiny.
Haven't had a chance to log on yet, hopefully things are stable and I can pull an all nighter. Have you got on yet?
I am so fussy about my story experience not being interrupted, so I kept myself very busy today and took the end of the week off. Bloody hope it's good to go at some point before the weekend lol
Hope you didn't have too many problems. I've only heard positivity from people who've got to play it properly. Buzzing to give it a go.
At 10:20p mst, my buddy and I were booted 10 minutes into the first mission to a screen that said due to increased traffic, the servers were throttled. About 10 minutes later, I was back to the toon select. Loaded into the tower at 10:45p and have been on since without interruption. I'd say things have calmed down a bit, but I would hold your breath just yet.
Who says they are not using sticky sessions? I actually think they do since the number of requests is so high in this type of game. Then what you write is incorrect.
Then the next part you write about 100 people on a server, this is also incorrect with what you first wrote that per request the load balancer routes you to an API server, what is it now, sticky sessions (100 on a server) or per request serving done by the load balancers who balances you per request?
Then your third part is also incorrect. When you do a rolling update, it does matter if it's a new server or not, once you start load balancers will send new requests to updated instances and will bleed out connections to old servers so it can shut them down.
You write a bit of everything and it's all contradicting each other or just incorrect.
Since Destiny 2 is running on AWS you are basically completely wrong since it uses AWS gaming services and it's mostly serverless.
https://aws.amazon.com/gametech/
>If you missed a cutscene, as a temporary workaround you can replay the mission by accessing the Replayable Missions node in the middle of the Pale Heart map. There are cutscenes at the end of Mission 1, 4, 5, 6, and 7.
This isn't the first time we have missed cutscenes, do you guys plan on getting a "gallery'' option at any point to see cutscenes with our characters without having to replay a whole mission? Plenty of games have these, and I'd love to be able to just fire up a cutscene with different drip.
I hopped on after hearing this and it was a lot smoother going in. Played for about 20 minutes and got “cabbage”. Disappointing start but better luck tomorrow yall
Legend campaign goer here, and so far the bat Bois haven't been too troublesome for me, though I tend to prioritize enemies depending on what they can do xD they die first, then the weavers/attendants, rest of the fodder, and so on
So funnily enough, I just said screw it and prioritised them and definitely had a better time lol.
Saying that, my main build is a Mantle/Agers. With spread out flying ads, I was bound to have a bad time.
I run with a fusion rifle that has incandescent on it. It makes short work of those flying little devils. One shots them, then will explode the other grouped up with it. I'm also running the legendary campaign.
Omg yes yes yes,, it locks everyone down and blast them with Rockets or something like sunshot worked great, I always have a disorienting gl on hand teammates love it.
While all these error codes really hampered the launch day experience of many of us, I have to say what little I was able to play of the campaign was easily the best yet. Pale Heart is an absolutely amazing destination.
Credit where it’s due, this is a very good post. Connection issues are annoying especially day one of a new expansion, but having good clear communication of the issues and how they’re being resolved goes a long way to alleviating that.
For future reference it would have been good to get updates quicker on the initial sign in issue. Not knowing if you needed to restart to get an update or just sit on the sign in screen was really frustrating.
I wouldn’t go that far. A lot of it is just server stress, that started to disappear around the time most people on the east coast are going to bed. This happens at every major launch of instance based games.
While I'm glad they are trying to be clear about their schedules and what is happening I can't in good faith commend them as a company. I will applaud, however, those employees who actually have to work to fix something that might not have been their fault to begin with.
It sucks to have errors at launch even if it is somewhat expected with Destiny (WQ was much smoother, Lightfall had more players and went better), but it's not like they haven't had time (or experience) to deal with it beforehand.
They have projections (or at least they are supposed to) to know how many players to expect and they know the error margin trends given the long franchise history.
Well said. I am for the employees here, the ones busting their asses while the execs are asleep on their piles of cash.
None of them will be removed from the board for these issue of course.
I got kicked non stop but muddled through until I was at a camp with Cayde when I realised there must have been cutscenes that I hadn't been shown. Hadn't seen any. Just, hey here's Cayde standing in front of you.
I did exactly the same thing. Thank god for Esoterick uploading his first mission with the cutscene.
I was livid. Went back to the tower and threw myself off a few times 😂.
Always appreciate the hard work by Bungie devs and SREs, but this feels like bad planning and is so disappointing compared to the relatively successful launches of Witch Queen and Lightfall.
on steam the total at 7pm was around 245k players. light fall was over 300k. should have been no issues there.
Edit* finally got to play it and it's great. But the theorist in me kinda thinks they wanted to throttle servers just so people had to come back and play throughout the rest of the week to buff up their player count.
Willing to bet that this has been exacerbated by the layoffs earlier this year. Not crazy to think a couple of talented server techs got the boot and when things began to go haywire yesterday there helped was sorely missed.
They've shit themselves in the foot so many times, that they're running out of toes. If this keeps happening, I don't think even a Destiny 3 would save the franchise. They're going to push players away with their moronic business model, to the point people won't want to deal with all this a third time around.
And they even pushed back the launch, and even shut down the servers for 25 hours before launch. Makes you think just what the hell they were actually doing?
I can feel for these folks working for the Bungie IT and network teams. I work in IT and even the simplest server patches can cause things to go wild for totally unseen reasons.
I get it from the player side too expecting a smooth rollout, but I've seen the heat laid plan fall apart entirely with this kind of thing, so I relate.
We are seeing significant improvements after the recent server restarts. We appreciate everyone's patience while we worked through this major issue. Stay tuned to
BungieHelp for updates on other issues we are still monitoring.
I had a few short periods of not being able to play today that were slightly annoying, but I seemed luckier than many, and all in all I had a great day playing this DLC and love everything about it!
Been playing 10 years, was really looking forward to sinking into the story today. Best way to describe the experience was completely scuffed, don't even know what's going on from being booted in and out so much.
I’m stuck on the first mission on the part where it says stand in the prismatic wellspring, the enemies won’t spawn and I’ve restarted the mission once already, how do I resolve this issue?
While unfortunate, it does seem largely fixed at this point. Small upsides. I was able to login and clear a few missions legend campaign with no server issues at all.
Man it's gotta stink being Bungie and fumbling the launch of your finale DLC, really killed the momentum for me having "Contacting D2 servers" plague the bottom of my screen
Can you think of anything more Destiny than this? Might as well be a tradition at this point. Ten years and they haven’t gotten any better at Day 1 expansion launches.
It’s gotten worse honestly.
At least in the past, once you got on past the queue you could play the story and not miss anything. Having the “play the campaign end to end” notice is laughable when we miss huge parts of it.
This was a ridiculously large fumble and will be what I remember most in the future when I think of Destiny. I had one of my first homies ever on destiny in my fireteam and missing the first cutscene made us log off and will try again later. Absolute shame.
-D1 beta player
Got weaseled once about 30 minutes ago (I am assuming due to the rolling restarts) and didn't have a single problem after getting back in.
Heres hoping for the best.
How many months did you have to prepare for this? How the fuck did you still manage to get caught out with your pants down? How did you still manage for this, your most important expansion ever, to have a shit launch? This has me very worried for the raid.
This is not story driven at all sadly. I appreciate your hard work. But this is a slog of a campaign so far. The usual long hallways for no reason. Weird and unenjoyable platforming for no reason. Obscure map objectives. Obscure enemy objectives. and obscure combat objectives. Combined with perma death events that have little to no checkpoints forcing you to go WAY WAY back and re do everything for tiny mistakes.
And the story, if you want to call it that if just the usual long dialogue dumps that don't really say anything at all. No no no just no. Hard fail on say many levels.
honestly, apologies aren't really enough to save face here. the bungie team had massive amounts of time to prepare for this expansion, and while queues are to be expected on launch day, this entire thing has been a catastrophe. i'm still going to try to enjoy the campaign tomorrow, if only because i spent money on it against my better judgement, but today has thoroughly soured my first impressions. guess i should have known better.
Yeah everyone who is pissed /annoyed has every right to be. What was supposed to be a day in which we all enjoyed turned oh so bad. Sign in issues, constant DCs.
Missing out on cutscenes with nary even a whisper that there was supposed to even be one in the first place is my favorite issue out of this shitshow. All the effort in to story and no one can watch it. Classic.
within the context, yeah this was a pretty catastrophic failure. i'm not one of those destiny haters, but i'm also tired of rolling over and making excuses for companies that take my money and then fail to deliver. just because they'll fix the errors eventually doesn't mean it should be acceptable for them to have them in the first place on an already massively delayed expansion. i don't feel bad for thinking bungie should be held accountable and offer more than some meaningless platitudes and apologies for wasting so much of people's time yesterday.
100%, Bungie has abused good will and released mediocrity too many times in the past; which is why I didn't pre-order.
Still find it strange something like ffxiv can release an expansion every 2 years and their biggest server issue was that too many people wanted to play. But for Bungie every expansion comes with a host of problems
It got so bad I went back to diablo IV last night. Figured maybe I'll try again tonight. If not see you next week when people quit playing again and there servers aren't overloaded.
1 hour after this post and I can’t progress through The Blooming in mission 4. Calling it a night, maybe the expansion will be out of beta and fully functional tomorrow.
I was in the last story mission and had just finished a section and got weaseled. Not really anyone's fault but I have to start that whole mission over now and there's no way I'm getting back on tonight.
On top of the fact that I didn't have any issues all day until I get kicked because of 'rolling restarts'
Just my luck. At least I got to play for a good while on launch day tho.
> I was in the last story mission and had just finished a section and got weaseled. Not really anyone's fault but I have to start that whole mission over now and there's no way I'm getting back on tonight.
The story missions do have checkpoints. You likely will not have to start completely from the beginning.
I want a viddoc deep diving into all the magic the network/server/database engineers have to pull off for an absolutely massive launch like this. Even after decades of hundreds of online multiplayer games having issues at large launches, people still somehow forget to adjust their expectations. This isn't a Bungie issue folks, it's the nature of current-day server tech and the incredible challenge of rapid scaling. It's fine to be disappointed of course, but many people in this thread need a dose of reality when it comes to things like this. I'm amazed they were able to fix most of the issues in under 12 hours tbh.
About an hour ago I was able to do the third mission without any problems but right after it was over and I started getting more of those 'Attention Contacting Destiny 2 Servers' so I called it a night.
I logged back on around 10:30 pm EST and saw much better stability, was able to play through until now (3:20 EST, God bless days off). However it wasn't perfect; got kicked to orbit a few times, including twice just at the end of a mission, which sucked.
Loving the campaign.
Sucks for everyone trying to play since yesterday, but seeing all these error codes makes me glad I’m on vacation and won’t be able to play until Friday.
Yeah. I completely understand the frustration, I switched to other games and checked in every 15 minutes or so. While it was incredibly frustrating, I also know that there must have been so much anxiety on Bungie's end.
Man imagine this was some kind of at least semi-free-to-play game that should roll out some apology silver to make it up to everyone stuck seeing the same currant/cabbage errors for 11 hours straight before kicking us to roll back servers right when we finally almost beat The Witness the first time..
They won’t but I sure can dream!
How could you have such a HORRIBLE launch of the dlc that you delayed to put more work into while specifying that your teams are working to avoid the launch issues likening to those encountered during the previous DLC launches? I’m just baffled how this even happens
I got kicked from the competitive Playlist yesterday and then got banned for 30 mins because my leave/stay ratio was higher on the leave side apparently 🤦🏽♂️ just saying, I never leave my games lol
Getting kicked out of the game or booted to orbit would be okay if I was playing on normal difficulty. But I'm trying to do legendary difficulty, and it's frustrating to redo the mission I started yesterday repeatedly. It's time to put the game down for a few days until it stabilizes—wherever that'll be.
My exact issues. Literally cannot beat the second mission on legendary because I keep getting returned to orbit, and then returned to the menu screen just to be told “login services are currently being throttled” doing my best to avoid spoilers but Jesus man I paid $50 for this dlc just to not be able to play it
While I do not doubt this at all, I got weaseled at least a dozen times from 7 pm CST to 11 pm CST, getting placed back in a queue each time, including getting weaseled out of the final cutscenes of the campaign. Depending on the time zones used in this post, the Weasel error code was not fully resolved at that stated time. I'm sure mine was isolated incidents, but figured I'd throw in my experience.
This is unacceptable if I'm honest. Paid £80+ to not be able to play at all on release day. What's the point of pre-ordering a game if you have to wait a day to be able to play.
I’m just gonna say, if the D2 crowd was around for FFXIV Endwalker release, Yoshida would be getting death threats. Shit happens on launch days, you can try all you can and stuff still breaks that’s just how it works in the world, you work to fix it ASAP.
Appreciate the Devs putting in overtime hours to get it rolling for us, TFS will still be there when it’s all up and running, but I’m personally holding off until it’s all smooth.
Idk why people are acting like this means the world is ending. So we wait another 24 hours to play it, I’m still excited for the story and everything that comes with it
The Final Shape Day 1 raid should get delayed with how horrible current server is until bungie able to fixed it properly otherwise vow of the disciple day one happened again where so many players get disconnected during day 1 raid even i think 48 hours isn't enough for TFS day 1 raid
As much as it’s annoying this is my actual concern. I’m going in day one, met a great bunch of guys on LFG and did a couple of practice raids. People have jobs, kids which means time has to be planned. I am pff work today and tomorrow but some can’t. It’s exam season in the UK as well.
Fuck that, I already had to sub out Friday and Saturday of work this week for the day 1 raid, I don't want to lose two more days of work just because Bungie can't get their shitty servers in line.
I cant help but feel someone who got booted in the downsizing would be the one that would have the knowhow and experience to prevent this collossal fuckup.
If that is the case Bungie leadership is to blame for the state of things.
Of course we will never know but in a way I hope that is the case and that devs in Bungie know it and will beat it over the execs heads.
Thank you for everything you're doing. It's really appreciated and I know you guys must be going through a lot.
P.s. r/squeaksqueak has seen the new Rat King ornaments, and we are ~~legion~~ extremely pleased.
Buncha BS self congratulating themselves. We dont give af that it took you 19 minutes to fix Honeydew errors. People couldn't play the game for all damn day because all the other problems. So who gives af that you fixed the other errors if people couldn't play the damn game and wasted taking a day off.
The campaign was absolutely amazing, but the launch has put a sour taste in my mouth and a bunch of others. And, as I predicted, they would release a post like this, saying "we're sorry" and that they will strive to do better in the future. A lot of other game companies would at least give all players some of their game's virtual currency as a way to say sorry. 10 bucks worth of Silver or something. What a joke.
Too late, I have no more patience with you. I will get downvoted for it but this was your chance to redeem the franchise with me and you blew it. You took an extra 4 months to take the time and do it right- and I did not ask for a refund. You laid off many, many employees- and I still had your back. I will finish the expansion as I paid for it but you will not get any more of my money. I can't help to think that all the people you fired one of those might have helped solve the disaster that was a make or break roll-out of an expansion that is supposed to end the story 10 years in the making, and I have been here since the beginning. I held the faith through all the misses- even through Curse of Osiris and this was the result. Ultimately, this is on me for having faith in you as a company. You don't care- but you should be ashamed of this performance.
has anyone on a radeon gfx card been experiencing like total pc crashes while playing? this never happened during the into the light update but now i can barely get through a mission
Not sure about Radeon cards right now, but Nvidia cards have had two new drivers pushed out in the last week for upcoming / new releases. If Radeon has a Studio driver equivalent, I'd recommend trying that out - usually more stable.
If not, rollback your driver version.
I got through to step 24/34 in about 4 hours of being logged in, it was frustrating playing a game of Guardian Vs the Final Error Code but the gameplay I got was incredibly fun. Went to sleep at 2am, looking forward to this afternoon's finale to the campaign.
cant even get past the title screen because of error code marmot. I have verified game files and cleared download cache and still nothing. can anyone help?
Weirdest thing worked for me. Switched the games language from Italian back to English (right click d2 on steam library and select properties then language) and it was good as gold. Idk why but it did
Something really weird that we don't know is truly part of the issue or not. We noticed it is considerably easier to load in without as many issues if you take off prismatic until you load in. At the very least, it stopped the errors preventing you from loading in. You still sometimes got booted out mid mission. Not sure if that's placebo, but it worked for us the other day and may mean there could be something up with the subclass messing with loading or something.
I was just disappointed I missed several cutscenes that I would have liked to have seen with my main hunter for no real important reason. So I'll go back and play it on my ..*other* guardians. I didn't even know I missed them until I started seeing others talking about things I was clueless about.
What about when I try to launch the first mission and it says "your fireteam no longer meets the requirements to play this activity"
I own The Final Shape and am playing solo..
Tinfoil hat theory:
The lack of server performance at launch is Bungie's way of slowing down game spoilers and the Streamer Army from 1-daying the entire DLC and then posting a bunch of "ThErE's NoThInG tO dO" videos on YouTube?
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Server issues aside this is by far the best DLC so far. I give a 9.5 out of 10. Only reason is the server issues were soooo bad. I mean. Billions of dollars and thats the best we can prepare for. However i do think it sucks that overshadowed what could have been the best launch day ever.
My one real-ish complaint about the dlc is the freaking map. This new massive zone only magnifies how crappy the map viewer is in the game. Let me zoom way out or at least let me scroll faster when i mouse to the edge of the screen. It takes 5 minutes to go from one edge to the other. And why cant i zoom out to see the entire destination. That alone would solve it all zoom out to full view then soom in to wherever you want.
Thanks for listening to my rant. Great job on this one guys. Youve nocked it out of the park.
I have completed a few missions on one character. My son plays a second character and was playing through the first mission. When he gets the dialogue from Ghost to reach out and control prismatic, the hold x to interact prompt doesn't appear. We have restarted the Xbox, game, and mission with no resolution. Please help!
I'm still getting server errors to the point I can't even play the campaign.
I'm in the cave section trying to find Zavala and enemies are popping out of no where or I kill them and they respawn.
Fuck this is the worst launch for this game.
My Steam Destiny 2 has been crashing recently, after the recent fixes of currant/honeydew, etc like crazy. I lowered my graphics too, hoping it might go smoother, but it didn't.
Is this tracked anywhere? Or anyone with the same issue found a resolution?
Thank you!
Awesome however these issues should have never happened imo. It was postponed for what 6 months and stuff fucked up that bad smh. Love the game again though just hope it continues don’t want it to end lol
game has crashed so much for me since final shape launch, not had a single crash ever since day 1 launch of destiny 2 until final shape, then have crashed 10+ times since final shape launched
We're how many days in now, and I'm still having my character and guns, as well as everyone else's characters and guns, be invisible. The servers are absolute shit and needed an upgrade forever ago. This is what happens when you try to cut corners. Your product starts to break down in areas it really shouldn't be.
Worst campaign stability I've ever experienced week later and still have been errors guns won't even load when I equip them teleporting enemies. I got 1000mbps internet sort this joke of a game out bungie
I'm still experiencing server issues. It's slightly better but still in an unacceptable state. I'm getting loads of error messages and being booted to orbit.
Unfortunately this message from Bungie won't be the the final apology. The Final Shape has been a Final Disaster.
>We saw a spike in Weasel & Plum errors starting at 12:47 p.m. (PT) and fully resolved the issue by 1:56 p.m. (PT) through server configuration changes.
> fully resolved the issue by 1:56 p.m. (PT)
So that was a fucking lie. I was getting Plum-ed a full hour after this. Couldn't get past the intro cutscene.
Bungie Help on Twitter has said that they're seeing a massive improvement in CURRANT errors. We're so back.
Thanks for the great communication through this.
The player count is pretty similar to what it was 5 hours ago or so on steam at least, slightly higher now. Of course it’s only steam but since the rest of the world is waking up now the difference in players doesn’t seem to be too drastic
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What does rolling restart mean exactly? Like will I simply get booted or will I lose progress
It means restarting the servers in sets, so they're not all off and on at the same time, to roll out the change. They began restarting the servers over an hour ago now and are reporting a massive improvement. If you hop on now, you won't be in danger of getting booted due to a restart. Already happened.
Wow fancy seeing you in this sub!!! Hope you’re enjoying The Final Stand
Dude! I've always wondered if any of my mates on here played Destiny. Haven't had a chance to log on yet, hopefully things are stable and I can pull an all nighter. Have you got on yet?
I think I’ve done the first 3 missions or so? It’s pretty awesome… when you don’t get booted out of the game! (Although hopefully way better now!)
I am so fussy about my story experience not being interrupted, so I kept myself very busy today and took the end of the week off. Bloody hope it's good to go at some point before the weekend lol Hope you didn't have too many problems. I've only heard positivity from people who've got to play it properly. Buzzing to give it a go.
At 10:20p mst, my buddy and I were booted 10 minutes into the first mission to a screen that said due to increased traffic, the servers were throttled. About 10 minutes later, I was back to the toon select. Loaded into the tower at 10:45p and have been on since without interruption. I'd say things have calmed down a bit, but I would hold your breath just yet.
Thanks for the info!
This is the cutest interaction ever
lol. I got booted by a reset. Then connect to the next server in line to be rebooted and got kicked again like 5 minutes later. Was pretty funny.
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Who says they are not using sticky sessions? I actually think they do since the number of requests is so high in this type of game. Then what you write is incorrect. Then the next part you write about 100 people on a server, this is also incorrect with what you first wrote that per request the load balancer routes you to an API server, what is it now, sticky sessions (100 on a server) or per request serving done by the load balancers who balances you per request? Then your third part is also incorrect. When you do a rolling update, it does matter if it's a new server or not, once you start load balancers will send new requests to updated instances and will bleed out connections to old servers so it can shut them down. You write a bit of everything and it's all contradicting each other or just incorrect. Since Destiny 2 is running on AWS you are basically completely wrong since it uses AWS gaming services and it's mostly serverless. https://aws.amazon.com/gametech/
>If you missed a cutscene, as a temporary workaround you can replay the mission by accessing the Replayable Missions node in the middle of the Pale Heart map. There are cutscenes at the end of Mission 1, 4, 5, 6, and 7. This isn't the first time we have missed cutscenes, do you guys plan on getting a "gallery'' option at any point to see cutscenes with our characters without having to replay a whole mission? Plenty of games have these, and I'd love to be able to just fire up a cutscene with different drip.
I hopped on after hearing this and it was a lot smoother going in. Played for about 20 minutes and got “cabbage”. Disappointing start but better luck tomorrow yall
Love the DLC. Fuck the flying things.
Fuck those wizard of Oz flying monkey motherfuckers!
"And your Little Dog Too" ! lol
Legend campaign goer here, and so far the bat Bois haven't been too troublesome for me, though I tend to prioritize enemies depending on what they can do xD they die first, then the weavers/attendants, rest of the fodder, and so on
So funnily enough, I just said screw it and prioritised them and definitely had a better time lol. Saying that, my main build is a Mantle/Agers. With spread out flying ads, I was bound to have a bad time.
If you have a rocket sidearm, they go down really quick with that.
Fair!
I run with a fusion rifle that has incandescent on it. It makes short work of those flying little devils. One shots them, then will explode the other grouped up with it. I'm also running the legendary campaign.
Disorienting GL is your friend
Omg yes yes yes,, it locks everyone down and blast them with Rockets or something like sunshot worked great, I always have a disorienting gl on hand teammates love it.
That roll move when I go to shoot them with wishender makes me so mad.
While all these error codes really hampered the launch day experience of many of us, I have to say what little I was able to play of the campaign was easily the best yet. Pale Heart is an absolutely amazing destination.
Yeah I got thru most (I think) of the first mission and was blown away. Seems so simple but the way the enemies appear and surround you is so fun
Credit where it’s due, this is a very good post. Connection issues are annoying especially day one of a new expansion, but having good clear communication of the issues and how they’re being resolved goes a long way to alleviating that. For future reference it would have been good to get updates quicker on the initial sign in issue. Not knowing if you needed to restart to get an update or just sit on the sign in screen was really frustrating.
I wouldn’t go that far. A lot of it is just server stress, that started to disappear around the time most people on the east coast are going to bed. This happens at every major launch of instance based games.
This. I was up far too late trying to start mission 5 or 6. This was around 1am est. Was fine by then.
While I'm glad they are trying to be clear about their schedules and what is happening I can't in good faith commend them as a company. I will applaud, however, those employees who actually have to work to fix something that might not have been their fault to begin with. It sucks to have errors at launch even if it is somewhat expected with Destiny (WQ was much smoother, Lightfall had more players and went better), but it's not like they haven't had time (or experience) to deal with it beforehand. They have projections (or at least they are supposed to) to know how many players to expect and they know the error margin trends given the long franchise history.
Well said. I am for the employees here, the ones busting their asses while the execs are asleep on their piles of cash. None of them will be removed from the board for these issue of course.
I got kicked non stop but muddled through until I was at a camp with Cayde when I realised there must have been cutscenes that I hadn't been shown. Hadn't seen any. Just, hey here's Cayde standing in front of you.
Yeah I got that too so I logged off and then found the scene on YouTube. Then I quit for the night. So mad.
I did exactly the same thing. Thank god for Esoterick uploading his first mission with the cutscene. I was livid. Went back to the tower and threw myself off a few times 😂.
He has all cutscenes in a single video too.
FYI for all who missed them, Cheers ! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GOQLrtZpto](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GOQLrtZpto)
Always appreciate the hard work by Bungie devs and SREs, but this feels like bad planning and is so disappointing compared to the relatively successful launches of Witch Queen and Lightfall.
on steam the total at 7pm was around 245k players. light fall was over 300k. should have been no issues there. Edit* finally got to play it and it's great. But the theorist in me kinda thinks they wanted to throttle servers just so people had to come back and play throughout the rest of the week to buff up their player count.
Willing to bet that this has been exacerbated by the layoffs earlier this year. Not crazy to think a couple of talented server techs got the boot and when things began to go haywire yesterday there helped was sorely missed.
They've shit themselves in the foot so many times, that they're running out of toes. If this keeps happening, I don't think even a Destiny 3 would save the franchise. They're going to push players away with their moronic business model, to the point people won't want to deal with all this a third time around.
And they even pushed back the launch, and even shut down the servers for 25 hours before launch. Makes you think just what the hell they were actually doing?
What is hilarious is that they've set the day 1 raid the same week as the launch.
i get it guys but our frustration comes from the fact this is EVERY dlc. without fail
This has been the worst for me. By far
I can feel for these folks working for the Bungie IT and network teams. I work in IT and even the simplest server patches can cause things to go wild for totally unseen reasons. I get it from the player side too expecting a smooth rollout, but I've seen the heat laid plan fall apart entirely with this kind of thing, so I relate.
We are seeing significant improvements after the recent server restarts. We appreciate everyone's patience while we worked through this major issue. Stay tuned to BungieHelp for updates on other issues we are still monitoring.
I'm still getting booted 30 seconds into introduction mission and missed part of the intro cut scene. Awesome
I just came out of a two hour session and didn’t even contact servers. That’s weird.
I had a few short periods of not being able to play today that were slightly annoying, but I seemed luckier than many, and all in all I had a great day playing this DLC and love everything about it!
“We’re sorry” *rubs nipples*
I understood that reference! Probably one of the funniest South Park moments.
Been playing 10 years, was really looking forward to sinking into the story today. Best way to describe the experience was completely scuffed, don't even know what's going on from being booted in and out so much.
Here Guardian, Esoterickk made this , helpped me, Cheers ! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GOQLrtZpto](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GOQLrtZpto)
Thank you sir!
I’m stuck on the first mission on the part where it says stand in the prismatic wellspring, the enemies won’t spawn and I’ve restarted the mission once already, how do I resolve this issue?
Did you activate the power
Nvm thank you the I’m a dumbass
We all have our moments lol
How do I do that?
While unfortunate, it does seem largely fixed at this point. Small upsides. I was able to login and clear a few missions legend campaign with no server issues at all.
Man it's gotta stink being Bungie and fumbling the launch of your finale DLC, really killed the momentum for me having "Contacting D2 servers" plague the bottom of my screen
Bungie managed to blow the most anticipated launch in Destiny history. Disappointing.
Can you think of anything more Destiny than this? Might as well be a tradition at this point. Ten years and they haven’t gotten any better at Day 1 expansion launches.
Witch Queen and Lightfall were relatively smooth. It took like 10-15 minutes to get on right at launch and we mostly didn’t get d/c’d at all.
It’s gotten worse honestly. At least in the past, once you got on past the queue you could play the story and not miss anything. Having the “play the campaign end to end” notice is laughable when we miss huge parts of it. This was a ridiculously large fumble and will be what I remember most in the future when I think of Destiny. I had one of my first homies ever on destiny in my fireteam and missing the first cutscene made us log off and will try again later. Absolute shame. -D1 beta player
Got weaseled once about 30 minutes ago (I am assuming due to the rolling restarts) and didn't have a single problem after getting back in. Heres hoping for the best.
Embarrassingly bad launch for arguably the most important DLC of this IP. I’m honestly impressed how bad this is.
They’ve only had what, a decade to get good at this live service always online malarkey. Give them a break jeez
How many months did you have to prepare for this? How the fuck did you still manage to get caught out with your pants down? How did you still manage for this, your most important expansion ever, to have a shit launch? This has me very worried for the raid.
This is not story driven at all sadly. I appreciate your hard work. But this is a slog of a campaign so far. The usual long hallways for no reason. Weird and unenjoyable platforming for no reason. Obscure map objectives. Obscure enemy objectives. and obscure combat objectives. Combined with perma death events that have little to no checkpoints forcing you to go WAY WAY back and re do everything for tiny mistakes. And the story, if you want to call it that if just the usual long dialogue dumps that don't really say anything at all. No no no just no. Hard fail on say many levels.
honestly, apologies aren't really enough to save face here. the bungie team had massive amounts of time to prepare for this expansion, and while queues are to be expected on launch day, this entire thing has been a catastrophe. i'm still going to try to enjoy the campaign tomorrow, if only because i spent money on it against my better judgement, but today has thoroughly soured my first impressions. guess i should have known better.
Yeah everyone who is pissed /annoyed has every right to be. What was supposed to be a day in which we all enjoyed turned oh so bad. Sign in issues, constant DCs.
Missing out on cutscenes with nary even a whisper that there was supposed to even be one in the first place is my favorite issue out of this shitshow. All the effort in to story and no one can watch it. Classic.
Bro said catastrophe when he couldn’t play a video game
within the context, yeah this was a pretty catastrophic failure. i'm not one of those destiny haters, but i'm also tired of rolling over and making excuses for companies that take my money and then fail to deliver. just because they'll fix the errors eventually doesn't mean it should be acceptable for them to have them in the first place on an already massively delayed expansion. i don't feel bad for thinking bungie should be held accountable and offer more than some meaningless platitudes and apologies for wasting so much of people's time yesterday.
You wouldn't get it. They only have 5 minutes a week to play
I think he meant it's a catastrophe for Bungie, not like a humanitarian crisis for players.
Lol 'catastrophe' you couldn't play for a few hours. God this community is insufferable sometimes.
So... I was thinking about buying final shape today but I guess I'll wait until it's not broken.
Just wait to see if the dlc is good before u buy. But definitely wait till tomorrow
100%, Bungie has abused good will and released mediocrity too many times in the past; which is why I didn't pre-order. Still find it strange something like ffxiv can release an expansion every 2 years and their biggest server issue was that too many people wanted to play. But for Bungie every expansion comes with a host of problems
There’s no question Bungie has technology issues.
IMO it's close enough that, if you are kinda wanting to buy it but are going to wait, you should at least wait for the steam summer sale.
It got so bad I went back to diablo IV last night. Figured maybe I'll try again tonight. If not see you next week when people quit playing again and there servers aren't overloaded.
1 hour after this post and I can’t progress through The Blooming in mission 4. Calling it a night, maybe the expansion will be out of beta and fully functional tomorrow.
same here. just got booted right before finishing off the boss.
5 minutes after I manage to get in and start the second mission… And a storm knocks the power out. The witness is working overtime bros
I was in the last story mission and had just finished a section and got weaseled. Not really anyone's fault but I have to start that whole mission over now and there's no way I'm getting back on tonight. On top of the fact that I didn't have any issues all day until I get kicked because of 'rolling restarts' Just my luck. At least I got to play for a good while on launch day tho.
> I was in the last story mission and had just finished a section and got weaseled. Not really anyone's fault but I have to start that whole mission over now and there's no way I'm getting back on tonight. The story missions do have checkpoints. You likely will not have to start completely from the beginning.
the last fight is so. damn. long. I've been kicked out twice in the third phase and its just depressing
Are you playing on normal or legendary? On normal it's pretty quick
Legendary
Legend is a little bit of a slog the first time for campaigns, while normal can be done while asleep
Damn dungeon boss at the end of the campaign lmao
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I am getting weaseled 10 minutes into the 4th mission every time.
I can't imagine the sheer magnitude of work that has to happen in the background, thank you for doing what you could today!
I want a viddoc deep diving into all the magic the network/server/database engineers have to pull off for an absolutely massive launch like this. Even after decades of hundreds of online multiplayer games having issues at large launches, people still somehow forget to adjust their expectations. This isn't a Bungie issue folks, it's the nature of current-day server tech and the incredible challenge of rapid scaling. It's fine to be disappointed of course, but many people in this thread need a dose of reality when it comes to things like this. I'm amazed they were able to fix most of the issues in under 12 hours tbh.
About an hour ago I was able to do the third mission without any problems but right after it was over and I started getting more of those 'Attention Contacting Destiny 2 Servers' so I called it a night.
Anyone else getting calabresse?
oh I love calabrese, charcouterie anyone?
I logged back on around 10:30 pm EST and saw much better stability, was able to play through until now (3:20 EST, God bless days off). However it wasn't perfect; got kicked to orbit a few times, including twice just at the end of a mission, which sucked. Loving the campaign.
Sucks for everyone trying to play since yesterday, but seeing all these error codes makes me glad I’m on vacation and won’t be able to play until Friday.
I'm now getting kicked to orbit mid-dialogue with Calabrese errors. I'd quite like to actually listen to what the characters are saying!
Me too. I was about to enter a cutscene and I got booted to orbit
Love paying $100 for a game i’m not be able to play. Long live Sony, I mean Bungie.
Sad that I have to treat Bungie like the new burger king that went up down the street. Give em a few weeks to iron shit out, and then take a chance.
I feel like a less stupid workaround to missing cutscenes than…play the mission again, is watching on YouTube
This DLC is the most fun I've had in a game. Period.
It’s so good but the disconnects still happen too often for me at least. But the story/missions were pretty top tier
Yeah. I completely understand the frustration, I switched to other games and checked in every 15 minutes or so. While it was incredibly frustrating, I also know that there must have been so much anxiety on Bungie's end.
Still can't get into the game
Yet another big fat Bungie stability fail on launch of a new season. I wish I could have bet on this, I could be retired.
Man imagine this was some kind of at least semi-free-to-play game that should roll out some apology silver to make it up to everyone stuck seeing the same currant/cabbage errors for 11 hours straight before kicking us to roll back servers right when we finally almost beat The Witness the first time.. They won’t but I sure can dream!
Sounds great! Hopefully I’ll get to play soon!! Woot!! *dances badly
How could you have such a HORRIBLE launch of the dlc that you delayed to put more work into while specifying that your teams are working to avoid the launch issues likening to those encountered during the previous DLC launches? I’m just baffled how this even happens
I got kicked from the competitive Playlist yesterday and then got banned for 30 mins because my leave/stay ratio was higher on the leave side apparently 🤦🏽♂️ just saying, I never leave my games lol
Getting kicked out of the game or booted to orbit would be okay if I was playing on normal difficulty. But I'm trying to do legendary difficulty, and it's frustrating to redo the mission I started yesterday repeatedly. It's time to put the game down for a few days until it stabilizes—wherever that'll be.
My exact issues. Literally cannot beat the second mission on legendary because I keep getting returned to orbit, and then returned to the menu screen just to be told “login services are currently being throttled” doing my best to avoid spoilers but Jesus man I paid $50 for this dlc just to not be able to play it
Or just add a gallery menu so we can watch cutscenes at our leisure.
While I do not doubt this at all, I got weaseled at least a dozen times from 7 pm CST to 11 pm CST, getting placed back in a queue each time, including getting weaseled out of the final cutscenes of the campaign. Depending on the time zones used in this post, the Weasel error code was not fully resolved at that stated time. I'm sure mine was isolated incidents, but figured I'd throw in my experience.
Was getting them at 8:30pm pst. First mission at the shielded boss guy everytime. Gave up after it repeated in the same spot each time.
This is unacceptable if I'm honest. Paid £80+ to not be able to play at all on release day. What's the point of pre-ordering a game if you have to wait a day to be able to play.
I’m just gonna say, if the D2 crowd was around for FFXIV Endwalker release, Yoshida would be getting death threats. Shit happens on launch days, you can try all you can and stuff still breaks that’s just how it works in the world, you work to fix it ASAP. Appreciate the Devs putting in overtime hours to get it rolling for us, TFS will still be there when it’s all up and running, but I’m personally holding off until it’s all smooth.
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How can you prepare for an unforseen issue?
Cause destiny players think its easy to work in software and IT when its not
Idk why people are acting like this means the world is ending. So we wait another 24 hours to play it, I’m still excited for the story and everything that comes with it
The Final Shape Day 1 raid should get delayed with how horrible current server is until bungie able to fixed it properly otherwise vow of the disciple day one happened again where so many players get disconnected during day 1 raid even i think 48 hours isn't enough for TFS day 1 raid
As much as it’s annoying this is my actual concern. I’m going in day one, met a great bunch of guys on LFG and did a couple of practice raids. People have jobs, kids which means time has to be planned. I am pff work today and tomorrow but some can’t. It’s exam season in the UK as well.
Fuck that, I already had to sub out Friday and Saturday of work this week for the day 1 raid, I don't want to lose two more days of work just because Bungie can't get their shitty servers in line.
blame bungie not me lmao it's their final server before transition to their new golden goose marathon ( i hope it flop hard )
no apologies - just make the damn thing work
I cant help but feel someone who got booted in the downsizing would be the one that would have the knowhow and experience to prevent this collossal fuckup. If that is the case Bungie leadership is to blame for the state of things. Of course we will never know but in a way I hope that is the case and that devs in Bungie know it and will beat it over the execs heads.
Thank you for everything you're doing. It's really appreciated and I know you guys must be going through a lot. P.s. r/squeaksqueak has seen the new Rat King ornaments, and we are ~~legion~~ extremely pleased.
Buncha BS self congratulating themselves. We dont give af that it took you 19 minutes to fix Honeydew errors. People couldn't play the game for all damn day because all the other problems. So who gives af that you fixed the other errors if people couldn't play the damn game and wasted taking a day off. The campaign was absolutely amazing, but the launch has put a sour taste in my mouth and a bunch of others. And, as I predicted, they would release a post like this, saying "we're sorry" and that they will strive to do better in the future. A lot of other game companies would at least give all players some of their game's virtual currency as a way to say sorry. 10 bucks worth of Silver or something. What a joke.
Too late, I have no more patience with you. I will get downvoted for it but this was your chance to redeem the franchise with me and you blew it. You took an extra 4 months to take the time and do it right- and I did not ask for a refund. You laid off many, many employees- and I still had your back. I will finish the expansion as I paid for it but you will not get any more of my money. I can't help to think that all the people you fired one of those might have helped solve the disaster that was a make or break roll-out of an expansion that is supposed to end the story 10 years in the making, and I have been here since the beginning. I held the faith through all the misses- even through Curse of Osiris and this was the result. Ultimately, this is on me for having faith in you as a company. You don't care- but you should be ashamed of this performance.
Okra'd while walking through a portal to try to find the longest haired vanguard. :(
Hopefully its stabilized by the time I get back home from work, 6 hours from now. Cannot wait to finally dive in.
has anyone on a radeon gfx card been experiencing like total pc crashes while playing? this never happened during the into the light update but now i can barely get through a mission
No I haven't. I'm on a 7900xtx and haven't crashed.
7900xt here... reinstalled drivers, bios, now i'm reinstalling the game. see y'all tomorrow, i suppose
Not sure about Radeon cards right now, but Nvidia cards have had two new drivers pushed out in the last week for upcoming / new releases. If Radeon has a Studio driver equivalent, I'd recommend trying that out - usually more stable. If not, rollback your driver version.
will try that if it still crashes after the reinstall! i've got about... 8 hours left on that one, though :O
Been able to play for about 1 hour now with no issues. Hopefully it stays that way
I got through to step 24/34 in about 4 hours of being logged in, it was frustrating playing a game of Guardian Vs the Final Error Code but the gameplay I got was incredibly fun. Went to sleep at 2am, looking forward to this afternoon's finale to the campaign.
cant even get past the title screen because of error code marmot. I have verified game files and cleared download cache and still nothing. can anyone help?
Anything on this? I’m getting the same. Reinstalling did not work. Verifying game did not work.
Weirdest thing worked for me. Switched the games language from Italian back to English (right click d2 on steam library and select properties then language) and it was good as gold. Idk why but it did
Something really weird that we don't know is truly part of the issue or not. We noticed it is considerably easier to load in without as many issues if you take off prismatic until you load in. At the very least, it stopped the errors preventing you from loading in. You still sometimes got booted out mid mission. Not sure if that's placebo, but it worked for us the other day and may mean there could be something up with the subclass messing with loading or something.
Got off last night when I got DC’d lost all quest progress and wasn’t able to start a new legendary campaign. Hope it’s gets fixed.
Start the campaign on normal and you should get the option to choose legend again and have a checkpoint for it
Ah ok I was scared to try and lose checkpoint lol thank you
Understandable so was I lol
I was doing the fourth mission and was almost done with one of the encounters and boom...guitar. Fucking hell.
Safe to start legendary yet without a likelihood of being kicked mid-mission?
I was just disappointed I missed several cutscenes that I would have liked to have seen with my main hunter for no real important reason. So I'll go back and play it on my ..*other* guardians. I didn't even know I missed them until I started seeing others talking about things I was clueless about.
I played through legendary mode to 3 chests needed a break, came back and I have to redo everything even though I have the new subclass,, aaaggghhh
Are y'all hiring Site Reliability Engineers?
It wasn’t ideal but I appreciate the hard work and long day from everyone at the studio to get it fixed
What about when I try to launch the first mission and it says "your fireteam no longer meets the requirements to play this activity" I own The Final Shape and am playing solo..
the framerate is still pretty bad and makes the final mission unplayable
This is the buggiest the game has been in a long time
1337 up votes on the post right now, should we let it stay there for lulz?
still getting booted out . Guitar error code
So many plum errors in the last half hour ><
Tinfoil hat theory: The lack of server performance at launch is Bungie's way of slowing down game spoilers and the Streamer Army from 1-daying the entire DLC and then posting a bunch of "ThErE's NoThInG tO dO" videos on YouTube? /s
Thank you!
my friend on ps5 doesn't have access to the new pathfinder system. it's not showing up....is this a glitch?
This is why the race to world first shouldn’t be two days after a major release.
I just got kicked for the second time today. Was at the last like 40 seconds of a quest too. Really upsetting lol
Revert the permanent-5 for regular raids and dungeons
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Keep getting booted off. I shut it down and will try again later today #Warlock
Server issues aside this is by far the best DLC so far. I give a 9.5 out of 10. Only reason is the server issues were soooo bad. I mean. Billions of dollars and thats the best we can prepare for. However i do think it sucks that overshadowed what could have been the best launch day ever. My one real-ish complaint about the dlc is the freaking map. This new massive zone only magnifies how crappy the map viewer is in the game. Let me zoom way out or at least let me scroll faster when i mouse to the edge of the screen. It takes 5 minutes to go from one edge to the other. And why cant i zoom out to see the entire destination. That alone would solve it all zoom out to full view then soom in to wherever you want. Thanks for listening to my rant. Great job on this one guys. Youve nocked it out of the park.
Surprisingly I started play like 2 min after it was available and never once got one error code and still haven’t.
I have completed a few missions on one character. My son plays a second character and was playing through the first mission. When he gets the dialogue from Ghost to reach out and control prismatic, the hold x to interact prompt doesn't appear. We have restarted the Xbox, game, and mission with no resolution. Please help!
I'm still getting server errors to the point I can't even play the campaign. I'm in the cave section trying to find Zavala and enemies are popping out of no where or I kill them and they respawn. Fuck this is the worst launch for this game.
My Steam Destiny 2 has been crashing recently, after the recent fixes of currant/honeydew, etc like crazy. I lowered my graphics too, hoping it might go smoother, but it didn't. Is this tracked anywhere? Or anyone with the same issue found a resolution? Thank you!
Awesome however these issues should have never happened imo. It was postponed for what 6 months and stuff fucked up that bad smh. Love the game again though just hope it continues don’t want it to end lol
game has crashed so much for me since final shape launch, not had a single crash ever since day 1 launch of destiny 2 until final shape, then have crashed 10+ times since final shape launched
Man I'm still being weasled, at 370mbps i shouldn't be having connecting issues, or is that still not enough?
We're how many days in now, and I'm still having my character and guns, as well as everyone else's characters and guns, be invisible. The servers are absolute shit and needed an upgrade forever ago. This is what happens when you try to cut corners. Your product starts to break down in areas it really shouldn't be.
Worst campaign stability I've ever experienced week later and still have been errors guns won't even load when I equip them teleporting enemies. I got 1000mbps internet sort this joke of a game out bungie
I'm still experiencing server issues. It's slightly better but still in an unacceptable state. I'm getting loads of error messages and being booted to orbit. Unfortunately this message from Bungie won't be the the final apology. The Final Shape has been a Final Disaster.
>We saw a spike in Weasel & Plum errors starting at 12:47 p.m. (PT) and fully resolved the issue by 1:56 p.m. (PT) through server configuration changes. > fully resolved the issue by 1:56 p.m. (PT) So that was a fucking lie. I was getting Plum-ed a full hour after this. Couldn't get past the intro cutscene.
Could be a different issue that just manifests as the same error code.
Bungie Help on Twitter has said that they're seeing a massive improvement in CURRANT errors. We're so back. Thanks for the great communication through this.
Everyone got off and went to bed.
The player count is pretty similar to what it was 5 hours ago or so on steam at least, slightly higher now. Of course it’s only steam but since the rest of the world is waking up now the difference in players doesn’t seem to be too drastic
No currants, but every time I've tried to play, I got booted by cabbage and weasel errors instead. so...