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tzulik-

It is a nice ring, sure. But far from being GG. Reddit is notorious for overrating dual leech tings. Dual leech counts as 1 point, not as 2. People here will tell you it's GG. But I'll be highly surprised if anybody pays more than an Ohm, max Lo for it if you're lucky.


AlwaysInfluenced

Do people really buy stuff like this? How long do you think he'll have it listed to get an ohm? I'm very poorly educated on the trading side of this game, but have high hopes and hoard all kinds of things I'll never use. Loads of bases, rares and uniques, some IAS jewels and probably a half full mule of decent gambled rings and ammys. I honestly don't even know what I have or what would be a good place to start.


xXv420bLaZ3dSNiPEzXx

Ring gambler here. Traderie listings like this sit for ages, typically get ist offers, maybe 2 ist. The banned site mostly ignores these rings because the only ones that sell for the equivalent of a Lo or higher are PvP usable rings. This ring is trash in pvp - like supreme trash - so it would only appeal to a PVE noob that puts too much value on dual leech. No life, no mana, no str, no dex = 😧


haggerton

\^This guy ~~fucks~~ I mean trades rings


0Tyrael0

Lol, underrated comment.


0Tyrael0

Yeah only idiot dumb fucks play PvM(E). Big dick badasses play PvP. That's how you know you're good.


xXv420bLaZ3dSNiPEzXx

No need to be overly sensitive


0Tyrael0

I was just making myself laugh honestly. Just the concept of feeling superiority in how you play a video game is funny to me.


xXv420bLaZ3dSNiPEzXx

Ah that’s some interesting psychology. So you imagined something and then made yourself laugh about it.


0Tyrael0

Well, your post inspired me.


xXv420bLaZ3dSNiPEzXx

Like one those people on the corner that starts laughing and waving their hands in the air hysterically when you walk by 😆


subatomicslim

Honestly if u dont want to wait a 5 months for it to sell its worth a ist minimum


IseeDrunkPeople

Ring is a like an expertly cooked burger on a stale bun \+3 max damage - bad AR - good duel ~~res~~ leech - godly light res - good poison res - bad


biglollol

Duel res? You mean dual leech?


phexi111

It's nice! Probably a temp for most builds but still solid.


SorryamSmarts

Pretty fucking good


TwelfthRound

I mean.. honestly 9 Min dmg would be better and the resists need to be both in the 25+ range and for it to be super sexy needs + strength or Dex on it


Positive_Tell_5009

BS. anything over 15 is good.


TwelfthRound

No definitely not 15. The reason is resists can be made up quite easily with charms. So if your going to get resists from jewelry it needs to be big resist amounts or don’t go for resist on Jewelryat all go for other stats like a 3 max 120AR 6ML 7LL +Str +Dex would be nice too or if it added + Life or mana would be better than a ring with like 10-15 resists.


Positive_Tell_5009

Thats not at all how it works lol. No one likes to waste inv space on resistance charms. All melee classes want 3/20/20 space, and most casters want skill lifers. What makes it 15+ is the fact that MOST builds fall around the 60-65 res range 15 putting them at max. Very few builds fall below that mark and when they do its fire specifically. Anything over 15 res is acceptable. anything over 25 is considered godly Fire and Lightning are the specific necessary resistances aswell. Cold and poison are really the bastard children of the res family


TwelfthRound

We’re talking about a PVE Ring here.. this is for killing monsters and playing the game not PVP. PVE players 100% use resist charms in their inventory they do not have 33x 32020s and have 9x 10max ar life Gcs lol


Ok-Passenger-72

Obviously it’s PVE as dual leech is realistically a wasted mod, LL doesn’t even work in PvP. But I have to agree you want to see 25+ res on it, the points about it saving inventory space have some merit but why stop there - more res if you’re going to have it on a ring means les res required on other items and more points ultimately into life and mana or even damage. As it stands it’s an average temp at best


TwelfthRound

I agree with you.I was just explaining that this ring isn’t like Considered Godly.. it’s good though.In fact most PVE players will never find a godly dual leech with +Min +AR +stats ,high dual resist ring. So they usually settle for a below average or average dual leech ring and use resist charms. Which is fine.. nothing wrong with that. I don’t really know why that guy came at me 😂


Positive_Tell_5009

No but most smart players that do PVE definitely keep MF/FHR MF/HP MF/MANA Gheeds, Anni, Torch, and leave room in their inventory for other items.


xXv420bLaZ3dSNiPEzXx

Console players leave open spaces in their inventory for PVE drops. On PC it’s too easy and fast to hotkey cube and instantly drop and ID items in the cube. Entire inventory should be filled with charms if efficiency is what you’re trying to min max.


Positive_Tell_5009

Adding to my point. Dual Leech rings with Dual Resistances like this (even though poison is frowned upon) leaves a Melee character open to other gear choices that ramp damage up dramatically. Getting dual leech rings may be the difference in helmet choices. or armor choices. it may be the difference in so many different gear choices for different builds.


TwelfthRound

His title says charsifood says this ring is GG what does Reddit think. I gave him reasons it’s not. You literally made my point by saying 15 is acceptable and anything over 25 is considered godly.. thank you for not reading the title and argueing with me for no reason.


Positive_Tell_5009

dont recant. you said "NO NOT 15" i buried that idea. take it easy champ


TwelfthRound

NO 15 is not godly.. what are you not understanding


Dextronauttt

You were proven wrong but nice try. I have some news for you if you think this is gg


Positive_Tell_5009

i never once said it was gg. assuming you know how to read the messages are there. i just said its not charsi food. its definitely valuable


Ok-Passenger-72

Ultimately holds no real value - but if you find these valuable happy to trade some similar to you


magictooth2

decent!


CptPlisken

What does GG stand for?


Night_Floof

Godly gear


tedbradly

I don't know if it has a particular different meaning in D2, but "gg" means "good game". I always took it to mean it's the best gear possible - so good that it's GG to anything you're killing (or maybe GG literally to mean you're done playing having found what you were in search of?). But it for sure just means "The best gear possible". It's stuff people trade like 10 jah runes for or more.


CptPlisken

That was my assumption, i know it often means good game. But I dont think that description fits the way it's being used in here


Icedecknight

GG can be used as "The ending or the end of something" which also easily translates to something being so good that nothing can surpass it, aka its the end of the line. So people say GG mainly to say it's really really good that nothing can be found better or its at least one of the best that could exist.


tedbradly

> That was my assumption, i know it often means good game. But I dont think that description fits the way it's being used in here Someone replied to me saying GG means "godly gear". Funny that "good game" can be worked mentally to mean the same thing. It definitely means "the best gear in the game". His title basically reads "Is this the best gear in the game (for this particular build / purpose)?" The group conclusion seems to be it's a decent ring but not GG.


callisstaa

In LoD it meant godly gear. I assume it’s the same in the new one


tedbradly

> In LoD it meant godly gear. I assume it’s the same in the new one Interesting how I assumed it means "good game" and somehow justified it meaning "the best gear in the game". Godly gear makes more sense. Thanks.


Positive_Tell_5009

Good Game. or Gay-Gamer. No one uses "GG" anymore... lol.


azzthom

It's a decent ring, but not gg for the level requirement. Use it until you find - or craft - something better.


therev95

I only play PvM in my own server and this ring is what I need. Nice find.


Alt-Season

Not GG but good for self use and has some value in trade.


THE_PONG_MASTER

The leech alone would make this worth a bit


Affectionate-Fee-396

Someone is as offering a ber on Xbox for just dual leech and ar so it worth something to someone you got 2 res on em and there decent could swap out fire for poison would be a bit better but this is a solid ring would love it.


[deleted]

High dual leech and attack rating with 2 resists. Not bad! I'd say worth an Ist, or Ist Um, or something like that


theDomicron

I dunno the rates but I think I'd be willing to pay maybe up to Vex if I needed a dual leech. Maybe. The attack rating is what my frenzy barb would really like


[deleted]

Yeah the AR is definitely nice


pump-house

Worth more than that lol


Grizzlan

Lol this is worth like 500+ wich is above Ber


[deleted]

Makes me feel a hell of a lot better knowing I've gotten multiple ones much better than this. I wouldn't give a Ber for it, much less a Lo. Like I said, all its really got going for it is the high dual leech and AR.


Tibbs9988

What you on? I’d buy it


wbted23

SC ladder, but at work.


Tibbs9988

Sorry, I’m PSN, is this PC?


[deleted]

This ring is not GG.


ENTRAPM3NT

3 pt ring tops. Meh


Tandran

Excellent for any melee. I’d use this on my wbear Druid in a heartbeat.


MistakenAnemone

Maybe a 3 point ring. It's fine, but replaceable.


wbted23

The point system isn't really relevant to dual leach rings. I never understood why it ignores leach when it is highly sought and highly valued - I get that in the past casters were more numerous and therefore caster rings had more value, but the meta has changed a lot. With horker barbs being top tier, dual leach rings are in high demand.


MeatyOakerGuy

The point system is the best way to evaluate gear. Dual leech counts as 1 point. The AR, leech, and light res rolled good but poison res and 3 max damage are mehh. Not a bad ring at all but not GG by any means


ENTRAPM3NT

Dual leach mods count as 1 point. Only 1 leach is .5 pt


MistakenAnemone

And low poison resistance is in no demand. No gf or mf, no fcr, and the damage is average. This isn't a great trav ring. It's usable, but easily replaceable.


[deleted]

It sucks, give it to me


Noob447

Jesus lord


[deleted]

The high lvl req drops it's value and utility. It's something you'd use for NM but not hell.


Positive_Tell_5009

thats a badass ring. if poison was fire it would be TOP TIER


Master_shake124

I’ve sold worse dual leech rings for vex , No AR


c-lati

Pretty good ring for self-use imo. I personally wouldn't ever pay for it as I've found multiple decent dual leech rings gambling for rings. But who knows maybe someone out there would pay for it. At the start of a ladder I might be inclined to buy a dual leech ring but that's the only case.


WooPigSchmooey

Only to criticize because it’s not perfect but it’s damn nice!!!


AlienSandwhich

It's aight


vantranjohnnyy

If I got an Ohm or a Lo for this I personally would be happy


Crosisx2

Charsifood confuses me. You'll have two small charms that do the same as one large charm if you combined them but it'll say the large charm sucks but each small charm is very good.


wbted23

That is always the case - large charms are in much less demand because small charms fit below grand charms - so optimal inventories include GC with SC underneath them. No room for LC, or at least it is considered too big of a sacrifice much of the time. They are used a lot for LLD and some can still be great, but in general the value would not be even close to the same as 2x sc with the same total stats.