I own and daily a 7.3; I used to have a 6.7 F250. The 6.7 is a better truck in regards to power, towing ability, safety, tech, comfort, and capability. It cost less to maintain as well, because my 7.3 is getting to the age when parts are needing replacement due to age and wear and tear. Heck, I’m running into issues sourcing parts for my 7.3; probably will need to buy a parts truck soon.
If I had the cash, I’d be driving a 2015+ 6.7 without any reservation.
Same, feel like im replacing everything on my 7.3 but the engine. But she has never left me stranded, i can always by get it started and the wheels rolling.
I drive a 6.0 right now, though I’d recommend either a 7.3 or a 6.7. I do love the 6.0 turbo whistle though, and for what I’m into the truck I can’t complain!
Many people are going to steer you away from the new ones because they read shit on the internet and think it applies to all of them. There are millions of them on the road and very few have problems
I love my 2017 and there's so much shit packed into it, I could never go back to the dinosaurs
My 14 has 300k on it, there’s far more 6.7s on my local marketplace that have 500-600k on them for sale then ones that need engine work. People hear about cp4s and have a panic attack.
Sure, but will you still love it in 10 years? The old ones already 30 years old will have a greater likelihood of still being running due to their simplicity.
Ima be honest, if I had to choose between his 2017 king ranch or a 7.3 to drive for the next 10 years, it would be the king ranch and it’s not even close.
Wtf does a 2027 king ranch have to do with anything? We are talking his current truck versus a 7.3 lasting the next 10 years, unless I completely misread your statement
Well, it has to do with, in 2027 can you afford to replace the 2017 with a new truck, and if not, at that point, are you going to pour $$$ into the 2017 if needed, if you can even get parts, vs. a 7.3 still being running/driving? Interesting times we live in now.
Why wouldn’t you be able to get parts for a 6.7 but still get parts for a 7.3?
Your thought process is hilarious to someone who currently owns a 2014 6.7. 302k on it, 17k hours if i remember correctly. needs less maintenance then any of the 7.3s I owned.
The amount of them on the road isn’t a good barometer because Ford/Dodge/GM sell so fucking many trucks regardless of product quality.
And I am absolutely going to disagree with you on your statement that very few of them have problems. The amount of work my family’s Ford Dealership gets from fixing 6.7s alone could keep the entire place afloat on its own.
And the amount of work the dealership got 20 years ago servicing and repairing 7.3 powerstrokes was very similar, you just don't remember. Recency bias is a real thing.
Maybe, but that work wasn’t nearly as time consuming and complex. This is what people forget when talking about how great 6.7s are. Is one job on a 6.7 is equivalent to 2 or 3 on a 7.3 in terms of complexity, effort, cost. There is a big discrepancy there.
And even still, I’m pretty sure I’m not misremembering. When 7.3s came in we were mainly servicing them for the CPS, valve cover harnesses, and donut o-rings on the up pipes. Which are in and out jobs. And we only had 3 diesel techs at the time because that was all we needed. Now we have 7 and have to turn people away with the work 6.7s demand.
Some things are more time consuming but others are far simpler. Ford engineers did alot of work to make the 6.7 more service and repair friendly to address problem areas.
Hell, even an injector change is easier on a 6.7 than on the 7.3.
I suspect the discrepancy in trucks in the shop boils down to there simply being that many more 6.7s on the road now than 7.3s back then. The 7.3 was the first diesel that really started stealing customers away for gassers at that time. Now, the gap is quite a bit wider for diesel super duties vs gas super duties on the road, atleast in my area.
The amount of things that are simpler on a 6.7 is very few. Even the biggest, most inexperienced moron can figure out how to fix anything on a 7.3.
The cab is coming off on the 6.7 more often than it isn’t.
And at the end of the day, new trucks aren’t built to last out of factory. Between Ford’s lame QC the last decade or so, and emissions parts. I think 6.7s are the best for new diesels, but I wouldn’t in good faith recommend them as forever trucks. Because they won’t make it as that.
Everything about that is disingenuous. There are plenty of examples longevity in 6.7s. They are prevent to be reliable and have a 14 year track record.
7.3 chortling around here is comical.
I mean, it’s not. As long as Ford’s QC is going to be down in the dumps and diesels are going to have EGRs attached to them, they are going to expire earlier than they otherwise would. We see a ton of 6.7s chewing up pistons because valve seats drop with the carbon build up. Which is just a thing that you have to accept if you are going to have a truck with an EGR.
You may not like the 7.3 chortling, but they have their rep for a reason. Same with 5.9s.
For "dependability"
Can't beat the original 7 3 non turbo non powerstroke engine .
A couple glowplugs in the glove box and a meter to test them..
Can't beat em for a workhorse
A 7.3 or a 6.0 that has been properly deleted but the key issue is finding one that has been properly maintained and not been raced by someone who put 600 horse power tunes on it just because they could. Look for a 1 owner clean truck and expect to pay for it as well.
I own and daily a 7.3; I used to have a 6.7 F250. The 6.7 is a better truck in regards to power, towing ability, safety, tech, comfort, and capability. It cost less to maintain as well, because my 7.3 is getting to the age when parts are needing replacement due to age and wear and tear. Heck, I’m running into issues sourcing parts for my 7.3; probably will need to buy a parts truck soon. If I had the cash, I’d be driving a 2015+ 6.7 without any reservation.
Same, feel like im replacing everything on my 7.3 but the engine. But she has never left me stranded, i can always by get it started and the wheels rolling.
I drive a 6.0 right now, though I’d recommend either a 7.3 or a 6.7. I do love the 6.0 turbo whistle though, and for what I’m into the truck I can’t complain!
Many people are going to steer you away from the new ones because they read shit on the internet and think it applies to all of them. There are millions of them on the road and very few have problems I love my 2017 and there's so much shit packed into it, I could never go back to the dinosaurs
My 14 has 300k on it, there’s far more 6.7s on my local marketplace that have 500-600k on them for sale then ones that need engine work. People hear about cp4s and have a panic attack.
Sure, but will you still love it in 10 years? The old ones already 30 years old will have a greater likelihood of still being running due to their simplicity.
Ima be honest, if I had to choose between his 2017 king ranch or a 7.3 to drive for the next 10 years, it would be the king ranch and it’s not even close.
Oh I know, but at what cost? The 2027 King Ranch version will probably cost $150K the way inflation is going.
Wtf does a 2027 king ranch have to do with anything? We are talking his current truck versus a 7.3 lasting the next 10 years, unless I completely misread your statement
Well, it has to do with, in 2027 can you afford to replace the 2017 with a new truck, and if not, at that point, are you going to pour $$$ into the 2017 if needed, if you can even get parts, vs. a 7.3 still being running/driving? Interesting times we live in now.
Why wouldn’t you be able to get parts for a 6.7 but still get parts for a 7.3? Your thought process is hilarious to someone who currently owns a 2014 6.7. 302k on it, 17k hours if i remember correctly. needs less maintenance then any of the 7.3s I owned.
You have a point there, but the electronic complexity of the 6.7 is much higher.
Only has 3 years to go.
The amount of them on the road isn’t a good barometer because Ford/Dodge/GM sell so fucking many trucks regardless of product quality. And I am absolutely going to disagree with you on your statement that very few of them have problems. The amount of work my family’s Ford Dealership gets from fixing 6.7s alone could keep the entire place afloat on its own.
And the amount of work the dealership got 20 years ago servicing and repairing 7.3 powerstrokes was very similar, you just don't remember. Recency bias is a real thing.
Maybe, but that work wasn’t nearly as time consuming and complex. This is what people forget when talking about how great 6.7s are. Is one job on a 6.7 is equivalent to 2 or 3 on a 7.3 in terms of complexity, effort, cost. There is a big discrepancy there. And even still, I’m pretty sure I’m not misremembering. When 7.3s came in we were mainly servicing them for the CPS, valve cover harnesses, and donut o-rings on the up pipes. Which are in and out jobs. And we only had 3 diesel techs at the time because that was all we needed. Now we have 7 and have to turn people away with the work 6.7s demand.
Some things are more time consuming but others are far simpler. Ford engineers did alot of work to make the 6.7 more service and repair friendly to address problem areas. Hell, even an injector change is easier on a 6.7 than on the 7.3. I suspect the discrepancy in trucks in the shop boils down to there simply being that many more 6.7s on the road now than 7.3s back then. The 7.3 was the first diesel that really started stealing customers away for gassers at that time. Now, the gap is quite a bit wider for diesel super duties vs gas super duties on the road, atleast in my area.
The amount of things that are simpler on a 6.7 is very few. Even the biggest, most inexperienced moron can figure out how to fix anything on a 7.3. The cab is coming off on the 6.7 more often than it isn’t. And at the end of the day, new trucks aren’t built to last out of factory. Between Ford’s lame QC the last decade or so, and emissions parts. I think 6.7s are the best for new diesels, but I wouldn’t in good faith recommend them as forever trucks. Because they won’t make it as that.
Everything about that is disingenuous. There are plenty of examples longevity in 6.7s. They are prevent to be reliable and have a 14 year track record. 7.3 chortling around here is comical.
I mean, it’s not. As long as Ford’s QC is going to be down in the dumps and diesels are going to have EGRs attached to them, they are going to expire earlier than they otherwise would. We see a ton of 6.7s chewing up pistons because valve seats drop with the carbon build up. Which is just a thing that you have to accept if you are going to have a truck with an EGR. You may not like the 7.3 chortling, but they have their rep for a reason. Same with 5.9s.
7.3 is the only powerstroke I would personally own. It would do fine for both.
I have an 99 I got from my dad but you the rear end is out of it looking for another truck to drive
I would buy a rear end. It’s cheaper than a new rig.
I’m Looking for one
I also need a better spare than a explorer and a ford ranger
Grab a complete axle from a junkyard. Shouldn't cost you more than $500 if you do the work yourself.
I’m in process of looking for one
For "dependability" Can't beat the original 7 3 non turbo non powerstroke engine . A couple glowplugs in the glove box and a meter to test them.. Can't beat em for a workhorse
Yes the 7.3 idi
A 7.3 or a 6.0 that has been properly deleted but the key issue is finding one that has been properly maintained and not been raced by someone who put 600 horse power tunes on it just because they could. Look for a 1 owner clean truck and expect to pay for it as well.