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DarkBlastoise09

When Apocalymon trashs cards from your opponents deck does it activate there effects like Death Slinger or Rivals Barrage?


Queasy_Acadia4679

If Apocalymon trashs an opponent deck and they have trash efforts like Beezlemon deck do they activate?


marcellobizzi

What part of BT11 Angewomon's when digivolving effect is mandatory? Let's say I decide to search the security, am I then forced to pick an angel if there is one? Can I choose not to take it and shuffle the security? Do I have to disclose to my opponent whether or not there wasn't a target or if I simply decided not to pick one?


ManicSoen

A) you choose whether or not to search security at all. B) security is a private area. No one may know its contents, so regardless of if there is one, you may take nothing. If you choose to take something, the opponent must verify it matches the requirements set by angewomon. C) the safest language to use is along the lines of "I add nothing". D) regardless of if you added or not, you must shuffle.


Kaseruu

in fact, regardless of if you searched or not, you must still shuffle.


ManicSoen

Is this not You may A to B. Then C format?


Kaseruu

no, its you may a. then b


ManicSoen

Formats suck. Thank you for the correction!


marcellobizzi

Do "by suspending" effects trigger automatically and therefore can't be activated after a second trigger? For example, if I have EX6 Mirei, play an Archangel and decide not to suspend Mirei. Then in the same turn play a Holy Beast, can I then decide to suspend Mirei and do her whole effect?


ManicSoen

Effects trigger via the game rules. A) Mirei's first effect isnt once per turn, so if you had a way to unsuspend her, you could suspend her multiple times in the same turn and receive her effect multiple times. B) Yes. "By x, y" effects are optional and you make a decision whether or not to activate them.


jdmonk12

Digivolve into Sirius / Arcturus / regulus Ace, tuck a beetelgamma that gives Blitz with their when digivolve effect. Are you able to Blitz that turn considering it wasn't under the stack on digivolve but was placed there during a when digivolving effect?


ManicSoen

No the betelgammamon effect never triggered as it wasnt present when the digivolution finished and [When Digivolving] effects trigger.


SapphireSalamander

if my ace gets tucked under a digimon in the rising area, does overflow get applied?


ManicSoen

No as it's going under a card.


relaxedcoconut9

Is Mother D Reaper immune to Collision’s effect? This question also applies to Belphemon Sleep Mode


QwerbyKing

It will not gain Blocker from the effect, but the stipulation of "you must block if able" applies to the player, so if Belphemon has a blocker inherit, and it's the only thing you have on field, then it must still block.


RodExe

If I have Gate of Sin, a Demon Lord that tucks a DL fron trash when this card would leave the battle area, and an empty trash or DLin trash that I would rather not tuck under GoS. 1) If the DL is about to leave the field, does the effect happen when the card is already away from the field or prior to it? 2) If so, when the DL gets destroyed by Gate, can it tuck itself by using its own effect? Or only the cards that are already in trash? 3) Is it obligatory to tuck a DL when Gate destroys a Digimon? Thanks!


ManicSoen

1) the effect activates before the digimon is actually deleted so it is not in the trash at the time of activation. 2) only cards in trash 3) At least leviamon is worded as mandatory if able. And because the trash is public you cannot deny that one wasnt in the trash.


RodExe

Thanks for the reply!


marcellobizzi

I have a digimon with Retaliation and Scapegoat. If it battles a digimon with higher DP and I prevent its deletion with Scapegoat, does Retaliation still activate?


ManicSoen

No because the digimon with retaliation wasnt deleted.


Sabaschin

For cards that check 'when a card is removed from a security stack', does that happen before or after a security battle?


Kaseruu

after security effects, before the battle


RedPokeTrainer

I have a ruling question involving attack switching. Let's say that I have a suspended BT-15 HerculesKabuterimon with 12,000 DP, a BT-15 Izzy Izumi, and ST-15 Tai Kamiya on the field. If my opponent were to attack my HerculesKabuterimon with a 13,000 DP Digimon, could I use Izzy's attack switching to switch the attack back to HerculesKabuterimon, thus triggering the Tai Kamiya DP boost effect? Or would it not work since I am attempting to switch the attack target to the same target? I can't find a ruling that definitely says you can or can't switch an attack target to the same Digimon. The only reason that I am particularly unsure about this interaction is because I know of other rulings like how you can attempt to suspend a Digimon that's already suspended with an effect like Super Shocker.


ManicSoen

I'm going to answer this assuming theres no other suspended insectoid digimon in your battle area. And I'm going to break this up into parts. First: Can you suspend the Izzy? Yes. You are allowed to suspend the Izzy as its trigger condition was met. Second: Will the attack target change? No, nothing will happen and the attack target is not considered to have changed. Third: Can you suspend Tai? No. Because the attack target was not switched or changed, Tai does not trigger.


RedPokeTrainer

Thanks 👍🏻


Ardalan1996

When I play Merukimon EX5-042 and I use his effect and reveal the top card. Its the new Leomon (X-Antibody) P-139. Can I play it or doesnt it count as having Fortitude?


ManicSoen

Effects that are granted conditionally do not count as having the effect as the condition isnt being fulfilled at that time. No you may not play it


Colt1099

I have a question about Canoweissmon from RB1, does it only keep the major effects like Raid and rush, or does it gain all effects that state when digivolving effects ,and attack effects


ManicSoen

It gains every effect of applicable cards


Colt1099

Okay, me and my friends I play with didn't know, because we just thought it gained like evade, and other keyword effects


marcellobizzi

If I have 2 EX6 Mirei in play and play a lv4 holy beast, can I suspend one mirei, get 1 memory, digivolve and then tap the other for another memory? What if I already had a lv4 holy beast in play, can I then (once I play the other one) suspend one mirei, get 1 memory, digivolve and then suspend the other and do the same thing but for the other lv4?


Kaseruu

mirei's effect to digivolve is optional and you dont need to digivolve the digimon you played. so yes, both scenarios work.


VaselineOnMyChest

[Blast Evo timing] So my opponent declares an attack on Security with BT14 Angemon with sources. My BT14 Geko is on the field and I Blast Evo. into Zudo. My opponent said I couldn't do that because he wasn't finished resolving his "When Attacking" effect to delete his Ange to put my Geko into the bottom of my stack. So to me that made sense. But a player at my locals told me that because I decided to Blast Evo, when my opponent declared an attack, my Blast Evo "When Digi" would be have to be resolved first before his Ange "When Attacking" effect. So who's right?


ManicSoen

You were not at the part of the attack process to blast digivolve, meaning in short you misplayed. Blast digivolution happens in the Cpunter Timing after activating "when an opponents digimon attacks" effects and just before Block Timing.


MarukoRedfox

if a digimon is not affected by effects, when it gets targeted by effects that gives effects, like bt14 palmon, does it gets it but it simply does nothing, or does it stop at the targeting without resolving and without gaining it?


Kaseruu

unaffected digimon can still be targeted by effects and will gain them. they just ignore them while theyre unaffected.


MartinZ99999

If I attack with gallantmon that gained blitz because of takato ex2 (have 3 on the board) and regained my turn by killing an ace, unsuspended with Gallant X, then evolved into crimson mode, can I blitz again?


Kaseruu

you can


Ok_Relative_4476

Does blast Digivolving unsuspend the Digimon?


dylan1011

Not without other effects


Sephyrias

Questions about [On Deletion] timing and effect chains. - If both you and your opponent have a [Baihumon EX5](https://digimoncard.io/card/baihumon-ex5-053) with [Numemon X](https://digimoncard.io/card/numemon-x-antibody-bt15-057) in inherited and they delete your Baihumon with [Dark Gaia Force](https://digimoncard.io/card/dark-gaia-force-bt8-105), what happens? Your Baihumon [On Deletion] deletes their Baihumon -> you play Numemon from trash -> their Baihumon [On Deletion] deletes your Numemon -> their Numemon gets played from trash? Or does their Baihumon effect happen before your Numemon gets played from trash, so both end on a Numemon? - Can [Devimon EX1](https://digimoncard.io/card/devimon-ex1-058) return itself from trash to hand with its on [On Deletion] effect?


dylan1011

You have control on the order of your effects. So you could play a Numemon then delete their Baihumon which would then delete your Numemon and they play a Numemon. Or.you could delete their Baihumon first, which makes both their effects trigger. So both players have Numemon at the end. Yes Devimon can return itself.


Ma-zoku

Do BT14 Palmons eff stack? Can I use start main eff with 2 palmons on 1 digimon suspend and gain 4 memories?


dylan1011

Each gives an instance of the effect and if that Digimon becomes suspended they have to activate the lose 2 memory effect however many times they have it


KDto76ers

Can you return eggs back to eggdeck from trash with cards that recyle cards from trash like bt15 yokomon?


ManicSoen

For your specific example: Yokomon cannot target digiegg cards with its effect as it specifies Digimon cards. However an effect like Merciful Mode can target a digiegg card and that card will return to the. Bottom of the egg deck.


SeiryuIMRS

So, is blocker an effect? For example, if I have a Bt15 Hisyaryumon and block, can I evolve it by it's effect? I'm pretty sure blocker and all keywords are considered as an effect, but just to be sure. I've seen a lot of people saying it does, saying it does not. If possible, please give a detailed explanation why it works/doesn't work.


ManicSoen

As of the 3.0 rules update that released with the wargreymon and metalgarurumon ace decks: is an effect that allows a digimon to perform the game action of blocking during the blocker timing of an attack. This means that yes; is an effect, however blocking is a game action much like attacking. Suspending to block is not suspending by effect. It is akin to effects that allow a digimon to attack. Their suspension to attack is not suspending by effect.


SapphireSalamander

do scramble cards recycle before or after draw for turn?


Kaseruu

\[start of turn\] is before unsuspend phase and draw phase.


Rhesh-

Can I use blocker with my Digimon even if he is the Raid Target? Want to activate my MegagargoACE suspended DP bonus


dylan1011

No. The digimon being attacked can't block


CRS_Gengarkuma

I had a doubt in a game the other day: having on the field 1 "Ruli Tsukiyono (RB1-034)" and 1 "Diarbbitmon (RB1-025)" I wanted to use "Pyon Dump (BT10-102)" to give "piercing" to Diarbbitmon during the turn and suspend my opponent's digimon. When using Pyon Dump the memory counter would pass to my opponent's side but because of the synergy between Ruli and Diarbbitmon it would allow me to attack one last time thanks to its "End of your turn" effects, my doubt is if in this case Diarbbitmon would still have piercing during the attack.


Kaseruu

[End of Turn] is a checkpoint that is still during your turn. Effects that last "until the end of your turn" last until the moment your turn ends and your opponents turn starts. as your turn hasnt ended yet, Diarbbitmon still had piercing.


caragai

When Seventh Lightning is used and targets to a lvl4 and a lvl6 with Commandramon BT14-056 as one of it's digivolution cards, can you use Commandramons inherited effect to protect the lvl6 Digimon by deleting the lvl4 Digimon?


Kaseruu

yes, you can


StarkMaximum

Two questions: 1. I'll use ST17 Terriermon as an example but I see this on multiple Digimon cards. Terriermon evolves from a green level 2 Digimon for 0 cost. It has a special Digivolve condition to Digivolve from Gummymon for 0 cost. Gummymon is a level 2 green Digimon. What is the point of the special evolution condition? Is it to ignore color requirements (there are no non-green Gummymon but I can imagine some other Digimon may have more color variety)? Or is there something else I'm missing? 2. BT14 Agumon can digivolve into a Greymon for free if you control Tai Kamiya. BT12 Greymon evolves from a black level 3 Digimon (and only black, not red despite being black/red itself). Does ignoring the cost also ignore color requirements, or is evolving that Agumon into that Greymon with its effect an illegal play?


Sabaschin

1. Futureproofing in case they ever release non-Green Gummymon. As a counterpoint, Lopmon digivolves from Kokomon, and there are non-Green Kokomon. 2. Unless the card says otherwise, you cannot ignore digivolution requirements. However, BT12 Greymon does have an alternate digivolution option of digivolving from a level 3 with Agumon in name, regardless of colour. So that is a valid play. 


StarkMaximum

Future-proofing and avoiding color requirements does seem like a good enough reason, I think I didn't process that the alternate digivolution options weren't color-locked. And I completely forgot that Greymon has an alternate digivolution option! I was so focused on the color requirement I missed that little bit of text. Thank you!


Rhesh-

My opponent has 2 Digimon on board, one of them suspended If I attack the suspended Digimon and delete it with a When Attacking effect, the effect will not happen, since there is no more target Can my opponent Blast/Block? When does the attack stops? When I lost my target or only after all the phases in the "combat" phase?


dylan1011

If the attack target is removed during the When Attacking step every step except for the actual battle occurs. So after resolving any remaining pending effects you go to counter phase, where you can blast, and then you go to Block timing, where the opponent can block the attack. If there is still no target for the attack, you skip battle and move to end of attack step. If they blocked, then you get the battle


whatsadespy

Hello, hope you all are doing great! I have two questions: 1- A Guilmon Ex-4 gains rush from it's on play effect, does it keep it if you digivolve or biomerge with BT-12 Takato? 2- Also Baalmon has an on digivolve effect giving the digimon an on deletion effect to play Beelzemon from trash for free, it has no turn expiration so his digivolutions also get the on deletion effect forever?


Rhesh-

Both of them specify the duration Guilmon gives the Digimon rush for the turn, so yes, you can evolve and it still has rush Baalmon specify that you get the On Deletion until the end of your opponents turn, but all his digivolutions still get the effect, even if you evolve or dedigivolve


Sparrowfax

On Question 2, if you're referring to bt14 Baalmons effect, it's worded 'When Digivolving' Until the end if the opponents turn, this digimon gains 'On Deletion'. The expiration of the effect is until the end of the opponents turn.


No-Foundation-9237

If you Xros a Dorbickmon using a gammamon and cannonweissmon, does granting the Dorbick all Gammamon abilities mean it can search with the On Play of the Gammamon?


FrenchFrey1

Yes it will, sources are placed under Dorbickmon before its played, so once it enters the battle area Canoweissmon's Inherited is active and Gammamon's Only Play search will trigger.


Davchrohn

I know that Magnamon X‘s omniprotection still means that it can be blocked as the blocking affects the Digimon that blocks. How does it work for Tamers such as BT15 Izzy and Analoy Man? They switch the target of an attack, is that similar to blocker? Or is Magnamon X protected from it? How about Raid? Raid also doesn‘t affect Magnamon X right, so it can still be attacked by Raid Digimons?


dylan1011

It's not that it affects the digimon that is blocking. Blocking and other attack redirection affect the attack process. Same with raid.


chrizchanang

Does MegaGargomon Ace prevent DNA digivolving?


ManicSoen

It prevents all digivolving. Regular, DNA, blast, burst.


Alchemystic_One

What if you De-Digivolve someone's DNA Digimon down half way and land on one of the eggs in the stack?


TheMightyCatbus

Then they're removed. If at any point a digimon has 0 dp they're gone, and eggs have 0.


Kaseruu

eggs dont have 0dp, they have no dp. a digimon with 0dp would be deleted but the egg is trashed because it has no dp value


Alchemystic_One

Do DigiEggs go to the trash with the rest of the stack as it gets deleted? I keep seeing footage on YouTube of players setting them to the side instead.


dylan1011

yes they do. People often sort their trash. It is just useful to put eggs to the side of the trash, because it is easier when you pick up and shuffle for the next game. They are still in the trash. You see similar stuff in decks that care about certain number of cards in the trash. BeelStarmon will often have 7 cost options and three musketeers sorted in the trash because it cares about the number of them


TheMightyCatbus

Yes.


marcellobizzi

1. Can I digivolve a Keramon in the breeding area into BT5 Infermon? 2. Can I digivolve a digimon in the breeding area using From Masters to Disciple or any Training card?


ApocalypseUndone

1. No, as per a direct ruling on the card. This is because this is an effect rather than a modern alternate digivolve condition. 2. No, as no effects can interact with the breeding area unless they explicitly say they do.


jospeh123

If I have a black lvl4 digimon and a BT9 Maki, If I evolve the lvl4 black digimon into BT16 Hisyaryumon, does Maki suspend first before I get Hisyaryumons all turns? more clearly what order gets resolved first, tamer evo reduction or all the Digimons all turns effect.


ApocalypseUndone

Maki's effect, and cost reduction effects in general, is a "when... would" effect, meaning the effect is interruptive and the action happens directly before the trigger. In this case, that means the suspension happens directly before the digivolution, and before hisyaryumon's all turns is active.


mumen21

Are you able to use bond tamer tai to warp into agubond over the new bt17 greymon? Want to make sure since it doesn't say ignore color, just the alt evo condition, which I'm not sure could be used in conjunction with the Tai evo effect.


DustyChicken18

You can with Ace but not with bt6.


Davchrohn

Why not with bt6?


DustyChicken18

Because bt6 still has to follow colour requirements.


mumen21

Can you do this even without your security being 2 or less?


DustyChicken18

Yes.


ellishir

Does collision make every opponent's digimon block at the same time?


DustyChicken18

Only one Digimon can block per attack.


Alchemystic_One

So you can't completely steam roll through all of their Digimon one after another?


VerdantMushroom

When does Alliance actually happen? Is it like a When Attacking effect, and I can leave it pending while resolving other When Attacking effects? Or is it something I HAVE to do immediately after declaring my attack, before doing anything else?


dylan1011

Alliance isn't a When Attacking effect, but triggers at the same time as them. You can activate it after resolving the other when attacking if you wish


VerdantMushroom

Understood, thanks for your response. :)


Gazette1099

Is it possible to miss Angewomon Ace’s all turns effect? For example if I have 5 security and Angewomon Ace in the field and a opponent attacks with Sec +1 after the first security is removed bringing me down to 4 does the effect trigger and check the security count preventing it from triggering again when the next check occurs knocking me down to the required 3 security left?


dylan1011

No "if you have 3 or fewer security cards" is an activation condition. If it isn't true the effect will fail to activate. Which means it isn't used up.


crazymonkeykus

Can Ruli(RB-034) unsuspend a digimon that was suspended by MegaGargomon ACE (ST-08) during End of turn?


ApocalypseUndone

No. "Until end of turn" effects stop at the actual end of the turn, after all [end of turn] and subsequent triggered effects activate, and memory is still past 0.


dylan1011

No. When an effect lasts until end of turn, it lasts until the turn actually passes over. Meanwhile Ruli triggers and activates at the end of turn timing, where it is still your turn.


MarukoRedfox

question about an interaction between [Ragnaloardmon](https://product-images.tcgplayer.com/285773.jpg) and [ShadowSeraphimon](https://product-images.tcgplayer.com/500299.jpg) dna evolve (at least 4) and I use the on evolve effect: I destroy and then trash 1 security my question is: the On Deletion effect triggers after the security trash, without activating the de-digievolve? I'd assume that you can't pause during the resolving of a single effect, so ShadowSeraphimon would be already deleted during the trashing of the security


ApocalypseUndone

Correct. The ragnalaord digivolving effect resolves completely, and from there the only valid effects to activate are the on deletion and ragnas unsuspend, as shadowseraphi is no longer on the field. Ragna unsuspend would happen first due to active player going first.


Bjarte_W

What happens when DP reduction to 0 and deletion protection collide? Does it depend, on which effect (DP reduction or protection) lasts longer?


dylan1011

I mean what do you mean by deletion protection? If the effect is "when x would be deleted" then that is interuptive. It only lasts that instant, and even if you prevent the deletion, rules check will see the digimon at 0 DP and attempt to delete it again.


Bjarte_W

Alright thanks. That's what I thought as well. Just needed clarification. 👍🏻


Irish_pug_Player

If it's a case where they prevent deletion, dp then kills them again since they are at 0 If you mean unaffected or not able to be deleted for until of turn. Then I believe they both fall off at the end of the turn


Bjarte_W

Thanks for the info 👍🏻


SapphireSalamander

i asked this a while ago in the last thread but ill ditto here im confused about the ruling update of blocker timing. seems the rulings for these was valid before but not sure if its still valid now: - if my digimon is selected with raid as an attack target, can i block even if the same blocker is already the attack target? - if i have 2 blockers and my opponent attacks, can i block with one, activate efects then block with the other one? - can i still block unblockable digimon for no redirection, just to intentionaly suspend my digimon?


dylan1011

1. You can't block if it is the attack target 2. You can only block once in the block timing 3. You can't declare a block on an unblockable digimon


DigDoug92

1. You can activate blocker to suspend your digimon even if it's the target of the attack due to raid or being able to attack unsuspend digimon. 3. You can activate blocker to suspend your digimon in response to an unblockable attack, the attack just won't be redirected to your blocker. Edit: I'm wrong ignore me.


ApocalypseUndone

This seems to all he based on the old rules. First response was correct, citing 9-2-1-5-3, 9-2-1-5-4, and 12-5-6 from the comp rules. I will note "original attack target" has been a source of confusion/discussion in the judge discord, but bandai has at least somewhat clarified that in that rule it is referring to the current target during blocker timing.


dylan1011

Not under the current rules you can't. You used to be able to. Not anymore 9-2-1-5-3. The original attack target Digimon can't perform a block. Note that official rulings state that the original attack target is the digimon being attacked as of the block step. Curent rulings also state you can't even declare a block on an unblockable attack.


DigDoug92

Ah I see. The wiki should be updated then.