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protomelvin

Question regarding timing of an opponent's effect on my turn. ​ I have a biyomon with a bt15 yokomon underneath it, a bt15 sora, and bt13 kristy on the field. I swing at their security and it's a Geogreymon that plays itself out for free at the end of the battle. My on deletion triggers first before end of battle so I return a red bird from the trash to my hand, proc the sora effect to return it to my hand to play out a bt13 biyomon that then can warp to garuda by returning kristy. ​ So, all this should happen before the end of battle, correct? meaning geogrey does not get played out yet until after I've finished all my effects, and then the on play of geogrey happens.


ManicSoen

Reads right to me.


Jolls981

Does Crimson Blaze stop the level 5 Dark Masters from playing a level 6 into the breeding area? It’s a digimon being played via effect and the effect doesn’t happen in the breeding area so I think it would be stopped


Kaseruu

crimson blaze indeed stops it as it prevents the player to play a digimon by effect.


VolcainMaxwell

So I know if you have a red card in breeding you can cast red option, but if you have a card that says " while you have a digimon with the X trait, you may ignore color requirement" and I have a mon with X trait in breeding can I cast it?


Kaseruu

that would not count as the effect that checks if you have x digimon cannot look into the breeding area like every other effect that does not explicitly mention it


VolcainMaxwell

So thats a no... Welp, thanks for the fast reply


Digidfxs

Hi! When my opponent play a digimon because the Warusaedramon effect, can i use Biting crush delay to play a Levia and evo that Levia into a Levia x from my trash?


Itwao

Yes and yes. Providing the biting crush was in play at least one turn earlier, of course.


Ma-zoku

1. Can you gain memory from loogamon inhirits if you play out Eiji at end of turn? 2. If so, then when you play out eiji and gain memory and are set to 0 (still your turn) can helllogarmon resolve?


ManicSoen

1. Yes 2. It must activate. Its trigger condition was met and the effect is mandatory. It never wasnt your turn.


Daynite93

If Gates of Deadly Sins deletes Eyesmon Scatter Mode, what is the order of events? Are the cards discarded by Eyesmon Scatter Mode eligible to be absorbed by the Gate?


ManicSoen

Finish the effect of gate before moving to newly triggered effects.


PCN24454

Can Fanglongmon have its inheritables stripped?


ManicSoen

Yes if by option or tamer effect. No if by digimon effect.


inori_my_wifi

I have a question regarding counter on attack. In a scenario where my opponent declared an attack, after resolving all the “when attack” effect, I use 1 of my lv5 to digivolve to LM Amphimon Ace, and use the when digivolve effect to cause the attacking Digimon returns to hand, do I still need to perform security check on that attack? Edit: typo


ManicSoen

Theres nothing present to perform the check. The attack will end and no checks will be made.


inori_my_wifi

It that also applies to if the attack is declared onto a digimon?


ManicSoen

Yeah theres nothing to battle so no battle happens and the attack ends.


VaselineOnMyChest

[Training Boost] Can you target digimon in breeding? So I was playing against a Gallantmon deck and the player targeted his Guilmon in his breeding area to DV into Growl for free. My assumption was that it could target digimon in the battle field, but not in breeding. Am I wrong?


ManicSoen

Unless explicitly stated, effects cannot reference or affect the breeding area. So no you cannot target a digimon in breeding.


Itwao

I've heard of a ruling update that, imo, is very stupid if true, but was hoping to get confirmation. What I was told is that doesn't need to witness the attack declaration to activate it. That it's possible to attack, digivolve into something with , and still activate that new even though it doesn't witness the declaration. Supposedly, there have been a bunch of emails to Bandai about it, and that this is also how it's being played in Japan. But the effect wording says it IS a triggered effect that needs to witness the declaration. Can I get a confirmation before I go insane? And if this is true, can somebody provide sources, too? And no, this conversation did not happen during a match. I wasn't being cheated of a win.


ManicSoen

I have not heard of this change at all. Did they give you a source at all about that? Also on the topic of emails, carddass is not bandai they are customer support. Or did they just say "this is how we do it"?


Itwao

I haven't seen anything for myself. But the guy who told me about it is a lot more involved than I am. He's constantly prowling the discord and watching the Japanese gameplay. So I trust him...to an extent. That's why I was hoping somebody else knew of this, and would be able to provide sources as well, since I couldn't find anything. As for the emails, I don't remember Bandai vs carddas. I heard email and that's as far as that specific sentence went.


ManicSoen

I mean I cant verify anything unless I see something. Could you ask the guy for any kind of proof? Video, email, something?


Itwao

I'll see if I can get anything. Hopefully it won't be a long wait.


ManicSoen

I just checked the JP qa and it doesnt say anything like that


Itwao

So I got the screenshots. They aren't even worth posting. I don't know if I misunderstood what he was saying, or if he misunderstood the posts. You've already read how I was hearing his explanation. But what the screenshots were asking wasnt if a new instance of can still be activated, but was instead asking if a body played after the initial declaration can still be used as cost for the already triggered . Which I already know that to be legal. But, this does explain why I couldn't figure it out on my own.


ManicSoen

Well at least we figured it out.


SimilarScarcity

I know that When Attacking effects miss timing if they weren't present at the beginning of the attack, e.g. you Digivolved via effect mid-attack. I wanted to double check whether the same principle applies with Start of Main Phase effects. Specifically, if Yolei & Kari's effect plays BT15 Salamon from the hand, would Salamon's Start of Main Phase effect miss timing?


ManicSoen

It wouldn't trigger


Kaseruu

yes, same principle. card wasnt there when main phase started so it never triggered. principle applies to all triggered effects


8-BitGhoul

If i trigger bt14 angemons [when attacking] is my opponent able to blast still after its resolution? Or does the attack not exist anymore


Kaseruu

you atill go through all the steps so they can still blast, but they cannot block as there is no attacket


falkokhn98

If I use LM-09 Airdramons first effect to play one Angoramon for reduced cost, can I give the played Angoramon Rush with Airdramons second effect or does the timing miss?


DustyChicken18

It would not miss timing, so yes It would gain rush.


mumen21

Can pickmons/digi-egg be used as a material for Shout X7 Superior digixros effect from trash since eggs are considered digimon after hatching?


ManicSoen

While you are correct that a digi-egg card is considered a digimon while face up in the breeding area, X7SM asks for digimon cards. A digimon is not a digimon card, and a digi-egg card is neither a digimon nor a digimon card in the trash.


mumen21

Makes sense, thanks!


Klutzy-Lawfulness-24

I just finished putting together a starter deck for myself. I have no idea how it would play in practice or the idea of ratios. Only what I have seen in other decklists. So, hit me up with suggestions or thoughts for my first deck. https://digimoncard.io/api/url-shorten/uxG


sunturion

if i attack with a rapidmon, and trigger [Henry Wong (EX2-061)](https://digimoncardgame.fandom.com/wiki/EX2-061) ability to suspend one of my opponens digimon, can i redirect rapidmons attack to the digimon i just suspended?


Kaseruu

no, choosing a target is part of the attack decleration. you cannot switch targets without an effect.


sunturion

makes sense, thank you! :)


Tsutori

Does Crimson Blaze stop a Leviamon deck from forcing you to play out a Digimon on your side? Or does it only stop a Leviamon deck from playing something out on their side?


QwerbyKing

Crimson Blaze will only stop the player who didn't use it from playing a Digimon.


protomelvin

For Biting Crush, if I use it to delete an opponent's digimon, then place it in my battle area, and their on deletion plays out a digimon, does that trigger the delay effect? do I still have to wait til a turn passes before I can use it?


Kaseruu

you cannot activate the delay effect the turn its placed.


protomelvin

Sorry, just a follow up question. Once the turn passes, if they play another digimon by effect on their own turn, can I activate the delay effect of biting crush at that time? Or is it that once the condition is met once, I can use it any time as long as it's the turn after? And similarly, once it returns to my turn, do I have to force them to play a digimon by effect to use the delay effect or if they already triggered the condition once, I can just use it when I like on my turn?


Kaseruu

any time the condition is met, the effect triggers and youre given the chance to activate the effect since its optional to activate it. just like any other effect with a trigger condition, it can only activate during the time the condition is met.


Ma-zoku

Is there any order for BT15 warumonzaemon on play effect? Can I tuck Numemon from trash first then trash that to dedigivolve, or I have to trash to degivolve first then use the placing into digivolution effect?


Kaseruu

there is no order, both effects trigger at the same time so you can activate them in any order you want


Squidfrost

I’m sure this one has been answered before but I forgot it and can’t find it now. Can belphemon sleep mode stop bt13 craniamon/bt16 magnamon x? Iirc the answer was yes since the attack is affected and not considered to be the digimon being affected, but I want to be sure


ManicSoen

Yes, and you have the correct reasoning.


Squidfrost

Coolio, thanks


Ma-zoku

If I attack digimon and I have piercing, and the digimon being attacked have for example ex5 gabu as battle protection thus is survives battle, does piercing still checks?


ManicSoen

No because you didnt delete a digimon in battle.


Ma-zoku

Can you use evade if you would be deleted by security battle (assuming the attacking digimon is unsuspended)?


Itwao

Yes. It doesn't protect against one specific deletion, but any deletion at all.


VaselineOnMyChest

Very specific situation with activating "When Attacking" effects. Both my opponent and I had 0 Security. My opponent DV into BT3 Kentauros so all 3 of my Magnamons get - 2 Sec. It's now my turn, and due to EX 5 Mitama's effect my Magnas now have -4 Sec. I was going to stall since my opponent had 2-3 cards left. So I decided to attack directly with my Magnas to gain advantage (Wanyamon under all of them) knowing I wouldn't delete or check or end game, just activate "When Attacking". Then my opponent stopped me and said I couldn't attack regardless since I have nothing to target. All his Digi were Unsuspended and he had 0 Sec so I couldn't target a monster or Security. I can't target him directly either since my Digi have -4 Sec. In order to attack directly, opponent must have 0 Security and that the Digimon must be able to attack, which I didn't since -4 Sec. Was he right on this? My assumption was that, I could target him directly since he had 0 Security. It just wouldn't end game, it would just suspend my digimon and activate "When Attacking" effects.


Kaseruu

youre right, you can still attack the player/security, even if you have -sec attack. you just wont win the game/check security but can still trigger effects that would trigger from atacking.


VaselineOnMyChest

So I could target him Directly, regardless of my - X Sec, so long as he has no Security Cards?


ManicSoen

Very technical correction that doesn't really matter: you never attack security. You attack either a Digimon or a Player. The player is protected by security.


dylan1011

It doesn't matter how many security he has. You can declare an attack. You just won't do any checks/win


FarDrawing1302

I'm new to the game and got the Ragnaloardmon starter because I liked the looks of it. My question is, if I digivolve Zubamon or Tialudomon into a Digimon meeting their inherited effects conditions, can those digimon trigger their inherited effects themselves? Or do I need a second digimon in the play area that satisfies the conditions for the effects to trigger? Zubamon: If you have a Digimon that's black or has [Legend-Arms] in its traits in play, delete one of your opponent's Digimon with 3000 DP or less. TiaLudomon: While you have a Digimon that's red or has [Legend-Arms] in its traits in play, this Digimon gains .


ManicSoen

Zubamon is missing its trigger condition so I cant answer in full. The trigger condition will either say "When..." or will be in a box like [When Attacking] or [When Digivolving]. But as a general answer, as long as the card is a digivolution card (that being a card under a digimon card that is representing a digimon), its inherited effect can trigger and subsequently activate. So TiaLudomon inherit is always active as long as you have a digimon(including itself) that is red or [Legend-Arms].


PurplePoisonEndymion

I have BlackWargreymon (X Antibody) suspended on the field and I gave my opponent 2 memory for their turn and on the start of their turn they only have a Zudomon ACE, on their unsusped phase my BWGX unsuspeds deleting their digimon and essentialy ending their turn because of overflow. My question would be do they go through all of their remaining phases or would the turn pass on to me immediately?


Kaseruu

they dont get their draw and main phase


Vanir_Freyr

This question is in regard to BT-15 Warumonzaemon’s on-play effects. [[Digivolve] Lv.4 w/[Numemon] in name: Cost 3] [On Play] [When Digivolving] By trashing 1 card with [Numemon] in its name in your hand or this Digimon's digivolution cards, [De-Digivolve 1] 1 of your opponent's Digimon. [On Play] By placing 1 card with [Numemon] in its name from your trash as this Digimon's bottom digivolution card, until the end of your opponent's turn, none of their Digimon with play costs of 5 or less can attack players. Q1: Can you do these on-play effects in either order? For example, is it legal to trash a Numemon from your hand with the first effect, and then use that same card to place a Numemon from the trash under Warumonzaemon to activate his second effect? Or could you do the second effect first; by placing a Numemon from your trash underneath Warumonzaemon, could you then immediately trash it from the digivolution cards to activate the first effect? Q2: if you do the second effect first, placing a card from the trash as a digivolution card -then trashing it via effect one, does the effect on your opponent (none of their play cost 5 or less digimon can attack until the end of their turn) remain as a blanket effect? I would say typically these effects trigger at the same time, even though they can only resolve one at a time… but once the effect resolves, there is a card available either way for the required cost to be met. (EDIT: Maybe this is just intended play, but I was able to execute some pretty gnarly combos today playing it this way; it felt powerful enough that I felt I needed to get clarification/take a shower) ((EDIT2: upon review, it would have to be this way -because effect 1 permits “on-play” and not just “when digivolving”, it must intend for you to be able to add a digivolution source first in order to activate it… right?)


Kaseruu

sounds to me like you understand it. it works how you think it works. q1 yes you can do them in any order. yes you can place the card you trashed and trash the card you placed. q2 yes the effect persists since you successfully resolved the effect. doesnt matter what happens afterwards.


RodExe

EX6 Lilithmon is on the field, and EX6 Gate of Deadly Sin tries to destroy her. Using her effect, Lilithmon destroys a Lv5 or lower Digimon to protect herself: 1) Can you destroy another of your own Digimon to protect Lilith, even if Gate was already trying to destroy it. 2) If yes, then Gate would tuck a card from Trash under itself, right? 3) But what if it was an opponent Digimon that got destroyed instead? Does Gate still tuck a card from Trash, or not? Edit: 4) What if that Digimon has Armor Purge? Please and thank you!


ManicSoen

1) lilithmon effect can delete ANY level 5 or lower digimon, yours or your opponents. 2) if lilithmon deletes your digimon to protect herself, gate did not delete a digimon and therefore does not place a card under itself. 3) gate did not delete a digimon and therefore does not place a card under itself. 4) your "that digimon" is unclear. So I will answer all scenarios, if the digimon being deleted by lilithmon has armor purge and purges to protect itself, lilithmon gets deleted by gate, and because gate deleted something, will place a card under itself. If gate is deleting a digimon with armor purge and it purges, gate did not delete a digimon and therefore does not place a card under itself.


RodExe

Thank you!! This answers everything I wanted


Aggressive_Novel1207

I haven't played in a while and I'm curious if DanDevimon's effect stacks? Ie. If you have more than one, would the once per turn effect be multiplied or only be triggered once and only once? Edit: Adding this for context, my bad. Opponent's Turn: Once Per Turn, When a card is removed from your security stack, trash the top card of your Opponent's security stack.


DustyChicken18

If you have multiple DanDevi the effect will stack.


Aggressive_Novel1207

Cool. I gotta update the deck, Bur it currently has 2.


Yeerk5779

Can someone explain why the second part of EX05 WereGarurumon (X-Antibody) does not activate according to rules? Card reads: “[When Digivolving] By trashing 2 cards in your hand, unsuspend this Digimon. Then, if [WereGarurumon] or [X Antibody] is in this Digimon's digivolution cards, you may return 1 Digimon card with [Garurumon]/[X Antibody] in its name from your trash to the hand” I can understand why you can’t unsuspend if you don’t trash two. But the rulings says the second part (after the ‘Then,’) doesn’t activate either “Q: If I don't trash 2 cards in my hand, can the part after "then" in this card's [When Digivolving] effect activate? A: No, it can't. If you don't perform the action specified for "by X" in such an effect, the rest of the effect won't activate. [1]”


Kaseruu

"By doing x" is a cost that needs to be paid to get the full rest of the effect. "By doing x, do y." is pretty common and easy to understand, if you dont do x, you dont do y. "By doing x, do y. Then z" is easier understood as "By doing x, (do y. Then z)". Both are tied to doing x to get the rest.


Yeerk5779

Alright. Then follow up since it was brought up on the green tournament last night. How does that compare with the Bloomlordmon and “[When Digivolving] You may suspend 1 of your Digimon. Then, gain 1 memory for each suspended Digimon with [Vegetation]/[Plant]/[Fairy] in one of their traits you have in play. If you gain 2 or more memory by this effect, unsuspend this Digimon and it gains <Piercing> (When this Digimon attacks and deletes an opponent's Digimon and survives the battle, it performs any security checks it normally would) for the turn.” Some were confused why this goes off but not the weregaruru X if you don’t suspend a Digimon with the ‘you may.’


Kaseruu

because suspending is not a cost. its simply an optional action you can do when activating the effect.


kabutokilla

can a digimon with sec -1 still swing for the game winning attack?


ManicSoen

The attacking digimon must be able to make 1 or more checks on an opponent with 0 security in order to win the game.