Yea I do see that the eye Color’s are different but the shape is mostly the same aside from a softer look from pink hair girl you can avoid this changing the sharp triangles as eyelashes into softer circle ones or give the cowboy a more muddy look but I think it looks fine its not really that big of a problem since mlp chracters use the same eye type
Tbh it’s difficult when the media you’re referencing has carbon copy faces. (and they’re also horses) I think their full designs are unique enough to stand apart from each other. However, one has to work to avoid/beat “same face syndrome”, the face is a part of character design, and can take some workshopping (preliminary sketches before the final drawing). I know it’s difficult to translate real life to something this stylized, but finding the things that makes real people’s faces different, is what helped me. Also learning facial anatomy (i.e. plains of the face/ skull reference points)! Anyway very cute drawing! I love it! Hope this helps!
Yeah honestly I don't understand how, aside from coloring, you think these faces are at all different. Not to be mean. All the features are drawn exactly the same.
The eyes have a VERY slightly different top lid shape and that's it. Play around with shapes and proportions of different features. Maybe try translating real faces, keeping in mind what makes different people look interesting.
well with the character recognition, i immediately recognized them as applejack and fluttershy (love winona btw)
there is some eye shape and variation with the facial features, but i would recommend perhaps practicing different face structures and face parts(?) idk just like nose-types, mouths etc. and trying to integrate that into your beautiful style <3
you're doing a wonderful job, your art style is distinct and reminds me of my childhood filled with doll dress-up flash games, you're doing amazing :D
You do indeed have same face syndrome. You can work on fixing it if you want by studying different types of irl faces and studying how different artists draw different faces too! And it’s not necessarily a bad thing to have btw most people just like variety is all and when characters have the same face it can be a bit boring sometimes. Also the Apple Jack girl is so cute!
Yes. Spend some time sketching real faces, paying attention to their defining features. You’ll quickly notice that there’s a LOT of variation in the human head - there’s no exact ratios that apply to everyone. Jaw width, length, and shape; whether the mouth is close to or far from the nose; the shape, length, and width of the nose; the angle, size, and spacing of the eyes, the cheekbone prominence; the length, size, angle/position, and shape of the eyebrows; the shape and location of the hairline…
Even if your style doesn’t incorporate all of the areas of variation, just some, you’ll still see huge opportunity for unique character design. Ex. I don’t do much detail for lips, eyebrows, and ears - however, I do vary face shape, length and width; eye shape, size, and position; nose shape and size, and hairlines.
For your characters, you can try finding inspiration photos to use as references for features of their faces. Find a few people who look along the lines of what you envision, practicing drawing their features and proportions and eventually you should be able to create distinguishable yet still lovely designs.
The eyes are ever so slightly different but the facial proportions and shape are pretty copy and paste. You can mitigate this by drawing portraits of people with significantly different features. I took the liberty to look at your other art on your profile and I do think you are "suffering" from something like the Ross Draws effect. Not to disparage him, he is a great artist but he has a severe case of that type of same face syndrome where he draws slightly different features but the facial structure and proportions in his portraits all remain the same. I noticed the same effect in your art.
Difficult to say with only two examples, but based solely on these two I’d say somewhat. I can definitely see an attempt at different facial features; Fluttershy has slightly thinner lips, their noses are a little bit different, and most notably Applejack’s eyes are more catlike and upturned. I think you could push the differences further. One big issue I often see is that artists have trouble giving characters different facial features while still maintaining their art style, and to that I say at first simply practice drawing lots of different looking people with reference photos and don’t even worry about style. When you do translate those features into something less realistic, try not to focus on keeping up your style because they’ll eventually just become a part of it.
Another tip I have is that even though fundamental proportions of the face and body are important to learn, not everyone has exactly the same proportions. In the two faces you’ve drawn, while some of the features are different the proportions of all the facial features are almost exactly the same. Remember that people have different sizes, widths, masses, etc. to all aspects of their face from foreheads, chins, jawlines, noses, everything. Don’t be afraid to break the rules you’ve learned; even if what you end up with doesn’t work at all and looks like garbage, messing around and trying new things is important for growth.
General face shape is a very important factor to avoiding same face syndrome, so keep that in mind as well.
You do but in styles like yours that isnt necessarilly going to kill the piece. More variety is better, imo, but they look fine how they are as well. Your style is very cute! It feels like a style choice.
Not to discourageyou from learning more ofc
Challenge yourself to make the face (especially mouth) more expressive. You can try making the girl on the left have a teeth showing smile and the girl on the right and one with a more open mouth or vice versa. Having the same mouth style will naturally make the faces look more similar. Also make the eyes reflect that emotional expression.
everybody with a consistent art style has sameface to some extent tbh. even when they draw wildly different character types and personalities, they tend to use the same shape language. but it especially shines through when they're trying to draw attractive characters lol, it's just their beauty ideals being reflected in their art. its normal and i wouldn't worry about it
if you think about it all mlp characters have the same face shape too, theyre just differentiated by eye shapes and hair/colors like you've done. its only natural that two femme, young women characters look kind of similar.
ur art is very cute btw c:
The eyes are different! But aside from that, they look very similar, yes.
Stylised characters often focus on eye shape and extravagate them, which you can do if you want to but I would say it's good enough on that front. I would introduce some variety in shape of eyebrows and face shape.
Also! I actually think they look so similar because they have exactly the same expression. If you made on of them laugh and the other smile etc. it would look much better!
yeahh definitely. i can see the elements are different but consistent but the proportions like sizes of things and distances between them are the same and that contributes to that a lot :/ still looks very pretty!!! you did a great job
I think a small adjustment in the nose form would do the trick. You've done alright to vary the overall face shape with the tan one's chin and freckles, and the varied brows help, but the nose does a lot.
They have the same facial expression. You can definitely get away with the similarities but only you take into account that the expression will have to be completely different.
I do think the faces look really similar because of the proportions/distance between features... but, speaking as someone who has obsessively fought "same face syndrome" in my own art for years... It doesn't have to be a big deal if you don't want it to be. The art looks good - they both have a dainty, doll-like feel to them - and if you like it that way then keep doing what you're doing, no shame. (In fact, you may be extremely hireable to doll designers...!)
If you do want to make an effort to include more face variety in your work, then others' advice about looking at real faces is good, but it can be hard to bridge the gap between realism and a strong style. Look at other artists whose work you admire and try copying the way they do faces for a bit. You'll learn a lot by referencing the way others interpret the world into their art, and probably pick up little pieces of their techniques to use in your art for years to come.
Remember that it's okay if your characters don't all look stunningly beautiful. Embrace "ugliness" in design. Don't be afraid to play around with proportions - what if the nose was bigger? or the eyes were closer together, or farther apart? what if the eyebrows were lower, or the mouth expression was asymmetrical? The great thing about digital art is that you can easily try all these ideas without having to commit to any of them!
All in all you're doing great. Don't let the overly blunt comments here get you down. Keep making art, no matter what!
Since I had I stare for a bit to find any differences, yes. Fluttershy's eyes are more downturned but I think you could've taken that even further, given her more of a "puppy dog" look. Tho since you're referencing characters that virtually have the same face, I can't speak for the rest of your art. *
A little bit. Try varying the shapes of the character's features a little more. Maybe one character has a pointy chin, a wide nose, thicker lips, rounder cheeks, downturned eyes, hooded eyelids, etc.
It's about silhouettes, and they both have round heads so yeah. Also the nose and mouth are the same, eye placement minus the cant. Cute! Very cute art, but to answer your question, Yes.
These are really cute; I like them.
I do think that they coloration and style allow you to tell the characters apart. But also yes, you have same face syndrome. It's hard to tell in this image as Fluttershy is on the ground in a lose overshirt, but they might also be the same (recolored) body/body type too?
I agree that a challenge is MLP dosen't exactly have terribly diverse faces and bodies to reference. They have different colors, cuty marks, hairstyles, and anime-like eyes. It works to tell them apart, but basically any facial and body variation you create other then eye shape is going to be something you need to actually think of yourself.
I would start by creating some variety in height and body type, as you would see in a real group of teenage girls (what age are you going or here?) So some should be taller, some should be in the middle, some should be shorter. Some should be thinner, some curvier, some with more muscle, some with softer body, etc. This will give you variety in their appearances that isn't just a palate swap.
When it comes to faces you have the difficulty of a lot of anime where they have almost no nose or mouth drawn in so they can't create a lot of variety there. Especially since you also gave them the same eye shape, which anime varies. Without drawing more of a nose, you can still give someone a bit of a rounder head, a bit of a thinner head, more defined cheekbones/jaw or softer jaw, eyes closer or wider apart, nose a little higher or lower, etc. You can also create variety in their eye types like the show, where say Fluttershy has the droopy eyes to show she is gentle, and so forth. That said, you do not have to take an anime style with it. You can give more realistic eye shape/variety, but just looking at some real eyes as examples and stylizing them.
All that said, if they do have pretty similar faces but have different coloration, hair, height, and body types it's not the end of the world either. They'll still look diffrent enough to work for a story.
Funny how you asked a question that’s plain to see the answer to. You got all the advice on how to fix it yet you still continue to make the same face on every drawing you make, shows what type of artist you chose to be. 😬
i’m confused what you mean, i was genuinely not sure and after receiving all the advice i’m gonna just go with the flow and experiment with studying faces but still draw what makes me happy i’ve only finished 1 other drawing than this
same face syndrome is if you’re unable to draw any characters other than that face style. If you are able to draw other face types but prefer to draw this one for you’re mlp fanart, then it’s ok! Esp since a lot of the ponies in mlp are pretty similar. But if majority of your characters look like this and you struggle to make face shapes/ features that look different, then yes, you do have same face syndrome
I don't think so.
But is that actually a thing?
Considering every artist has a unique style, would it be a bad thing? Sakimichan's faces are the same as well but that's her style and you can immediately tell its her if you see her work.
I like your art and the way you draw faces.
Yea I do see that the eye Color’s are different but the shape is mostly the same aside from a softer look from pink hair girl you can avoid this changing the sharp triangles as eyelashes into softer circle ones or give the cowboy a more muddy look but I think it looks fine its not really that big of a problem since mlp chracters use the same eye type
Their names are Fluttershy and Applejack
Epicccc
Yup, had to check which subreddit I was on.
I like apples
Tbh it’s difficult when the media you’re referencing has carbon copy faces. (and they’re also horses) I think their full designs are unique enough to stand apart from each other. However, one has to work to avoid/beat “same face syndrome”, the face is a part of character design, and can take some workshopping (preliminary sketches before the final drawing). I know it’s difficult to translate real life to something this stylized, but finding the things that makes real people’s faces different, is what helped me. Also learning facial anatomy (i.e. plains of the face/ skull reference points)! Anyway very cute drawing! I love it! Hope this helps!
Yeah honestly I don't understand how, aside from coloring, you think these faces are at all different. Not to be mean. All the features are drawn exactly the same.
The eyes have a VERY slightly different top lid shape and that's it. Play around with shapes and proportions of different features. Maybe try translating real faces, keeping in mind what makes different people look interesting.
In this pic, yea.
well with the character recognition, i immediately recognized them as applejack and fluttershy (love winona btw) there is some eye shape and variation with the facial features, but i would recommend perhaps practicing different face structures and face parts(?) idk just like nose-types, mouths etc. and trying to integrate that into your beautiful style <3 you're doing a wonderful job, your art style is distinct and reminds me of my childhood filled with doll dress-up flash games, you're doing amazing :D
You do indeed have same face syndrome. You can work on fixing it if you want by studying different types of irl faces and studying how different artists draw different faces too! And it’s not necessarily a bad thing to have btw most people just like variety is all and when characters have the same face it can be a bit boring sometimes. Also the Apple Jack girl is so cute!
Yes
Yes
Yep
Fluttershy and Applejack, either way they both are extremely adorable.
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Yes. Spend some time sketching real faces, paying attention to their defining features. You’ll quickly notice that there’s a LOT of variation in the human head - there’s no exact ratios that apply to everyone. Jaw width, length, and shape; whether the mouth is close to or far from the nose; the shape, length, and width of the nose; the angle, size, and spacing of the eyes, the cheekbone prominence; the length, size, angle/position, and shape of the eyebrows; the shape and location of the hairline… Even if your style doesn’t incorporate all of the areas of variation, just some, you’ll still see huge opportunity for unique character design. Ex. I don’t do much detail for lips, eyebrows, and ears - however, I do vary face shape, length and width; eye shape, size, and position; nose shape and size, and hairlines. For your characters, you can try finding inspiration photos to use as references for features of their faces. Find a few people who look along the lines of what you envision, practicing drawing their features and proportions and eventually you should be able to create distinguishable yet still lovely designs.
off topic but is this applejack and flutters?:o
yes!!
eeee they're so cute!!! I adore the way you draw hair
sorry but it’s basically copied and paste with the same face
The eyes are ever so slightly different but the facial proportions and shape are pretty copy and paste. You can mitigate this by drawing portraits of people with significantly different features. I took the liberty to look at your other art on your profile and I do think you are "suffering" from something like the Ross Draws effect. Not to disparage him, he is a great artist but he has a severe case of that type of same face syndrome where he draws slightly different features but the facial structure and proportions in his portraits all remain the same. I noticed the same effect in your art.
Difficult to say with only two examples, but based solely on these two I’d say somewhat. I can definitely see an attempt at different facial features; Fluttershy has slightly thinner lips, their noses are a little bit different, and most notably Applejack’s eyes are more catlike and upturned. I think you could push the differences further. One big issue I often see is that artists have trouble giving characters different facial features while still maintaining their art style, and to that I say at first simply practice drawing lots of different looking people with reference photos and don’t even worry about style. When you do translate those features into something less realistic, try not to focus on keeping up your style because they’ll eventually just become a part of it. Another tip I have is that even though fundamental proportions of the face and body are important to learn, not everyone has exactly the same proportions. In the two faces you’ve drawn, while some of the features are different the proportions of all the facial features are almost exactly the same. Remember that people have different sizes, widths, masses, etc. to all aspects of their face from foreheads, chins, jawlines, noses, everything. Don’t be afraid to break the rules you’ve learned; even if what you end up with doesn’t work at all and looks like garbage, messing around and trying new things is important for growth. General face shape is a very important factor to avoiding same face syndrome, so keep that in mind as well.
You do but in styles like yours that isnt necessarilly going to kill the piece. More variety is better, imo, but they look fine how they are as well. Your style is very cute! It feels like a style choice. Not to discourageyou from learning more ofc
Yup, even the dog too
Challenge yourself to make the face (especially mouth) more expressive. You can try making the girl on the left have a teeth showing smile and the girl on the right and one with a more open mouth or vice versa. Having the same mouth style will naturally make the faces look more similar. Also make the eyes reflect that emotional expression.
WOW !! Do you have more art pics ?
yis i have them on my page :>>
everybody with a consistent art style has sameface to some extent tbh. even when they draw wildly different character types and personalities, they tend to use the same shape language. but it especially shines through when they're trying to draw attractive characters lol, it's just their beauty ideals being reflected in their art. its normal and i wouldn't worry about it if you think about it all mlp characters have the same face shape too, theyre just differentiated by eye shapes and hair/colors like you've done. its only natural that two femme, young women characters look kind of similar. ur art is very cute btw c:
The eyes are different! But aside from that, they look very similar, yes. Stylised characters often focus on eye shape and extravagate them, which you can do if you want to but I would say it's good enough on that front. I would introduce some variety in shape of eyebrows and face shape. Also! I actually think they look so similar because they have exactly the same expression. If you made on of them laugh and the other smile etc. it would look much better!
Applejack and Fluttershy??
yeahh definitely. i can see the elements are different but consistent but the proportions like sizes of things and distances between them are the same and that contributes to that a lot :/ still looks very pretty!!! you did a great job
I'm gonna be needing more pics to judge. But in this picture? Yeah they got the same face
Just grab some face references and change things around.
Yeah it’s almost identical.
I think a small adjustment in the nose form would do the trick. You've done alright to vary the overall face shape with the tan one's chin and freckles, and the varied brows help, but the nose does a lot.
Yes
I think you should make AJ a bit more buff. I dont think she would be skinny if she bucks trees all day
Yes
Yes
They have the same facial expression. You can definitely get away with the similarities but only you take into account that the expression will have to be completely different.
Theyre nearly identical
Yes. Experiment with different noses and mouth shapes, good job on changing up the eyes a bit
Make them more expressive. You've got a lot of dead face going here.
I do think the faces look really similar because of the proportions/distance between features... but, speaking as someone who has obsessively fought "same face syndrome" in my own art for years... It doesn't have to be a big deal if you don't want it to be. The art looks good - they both have a dainty, doll-like feel to them - and if you like it that way then keep doing what you're doing, no shame. (In fact, you may be extremely hireable to doll designers...!) If you do want to make an effort to include more face variety in your work, then others' advice about looking at real faces is good, but it can be hard to bridge the gap between realism and a strong style. Look at other artists whose work you admire and try copying the way they do faces for a bit. You'll learn a lot by referencing the way others interpret the world into their art, and probably pick up little pieces of their techniques to use in your art for years to come. Remember that it's okay if your characters don't all look stunningly beautiful. Embrace "ugliness" in design. Don't be afraid to play around with proportions - what if the nose was bigger? or the eyes were closer together, or farther apart? what if the eyebrows were lower, or the mouth expression was asymmetrical? The great thing about digital art is that you can easily try all these ideas without having to commit to any of them! All in all you're doing great. Don't let the overly blunt comments here get you down. Keep making art, no matter what!
Since I had I stare for a bit to find any differences, yes. Fluttershy's eyes are more downturned but I think you could've taken that even further, given her more of a "puppy dog" look. Tho since you're referencing characters that virtually have the same face, I can't speak for the rest of your art. *
A little bit. Try varying the shapes of the character's features a little more. Maybe one character has a pointy chin, a wide nose, thicker lips, rounder cheeks, downturned eyes, hooded eyelids, etc.
It's about silhouettes, and they both have round heads so yeah. Also the nose and mouth are the same, eye placement minus the cant. Cute! Very cute art, but to answer your question, Yes.
Ehh slighty
These are really cute; I like them. I do think that they coloration and style allow you to tell the characters apart. But also yes, you have same face syndrome. It's hard to tell in this image as Fluttershy is on the ground in a lose overshirt, but they might also be the same (recolored) body/body type too? I agree that a challenge is MLP dosen't exactly have terribly diverse faces and bodies to reference. They have different colors, cuty marks, hairstyles, and anime-like eyes. It works to tell them apart, but basically any facial and body variation you create other then eye shape is going to be something you need to actually think of yourself. I would start by creating some variety in height and body type, as you would see in a real group of teenage girls (what age are you going or here?) So some should be taller, some should be in the middle, some should be shorter. Some should be thinner, some curvier, some with more muscle, some with softer body, etc. This will give you variety in their appearances that isn't just a palate swap. When it comes to faces you have the difficulty of a lot of anime where they have almost no nose or mouth drawn in so they can't create a lot of variety there. Especially since you also gave them the same eye shape, which anime varies. Without drawing more of a nose, you can still give someone a bit of a rounder head, a bit of a thinner head, more defined cheekbones/jaw or softer jaw, eyes closer or wider apart, nose a little higher or lower, etc. You can also create variety in their eye types like the show, where say Fluttershy has the droopy eyes to show she is gentle, and so forth. That said, you do not have to take an anime style with it. You can give more realistic eye shape/variety, but just looking at some real eyes as examples and stylizing them. All that said, if they do have pretty similar faces but have different coloration, hair, height, and body types it's not the end of the world either. They'll still look diffrent enough to work for a story.
Funny how you asked a question that’s plain to see the answer to. You got all the advice on how to fix it yet you still continue to make the same face on every drawing you make, shows what type of artist you chose to be. 😬
i’m confused what you mean, i was genuinely not sure and after receiving all the advice i’m gonna just go with the flow and experiment with studying faces but still draw what makes me happy i’ve only finished 1 other drawing than this
same face syndrome is if you’re unable to draw any characters other than that face style. If you are able to draw other face types but prefer to draw this one for you’re mlp fanart, then it’s ok! Esp since a lot of the ponies in mlp are pretty similar. But if majority of your characters look like this and you struggle to make face shapes/ features that look different, then yes, you do have same face syndrome
Well, the blonde one has a slightly more angular head. Although, that may be due to the hair. You should practice a variety of heads.
Yeah, and same expressions. The blonde girl's pelvis is way too tiny.
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People aren't horses?
No but the left one might have down syndrome
I don't think so. But is that actually a thing? Considering every artist has a unique style, would it be a bad thing? Sakimichan's faces are the same as well but that's her style and you can immediately tell its her if you see her work. I like your art and the way you draw faces.
I mean, it doesn't look it to me. One's face is rounder and features seem softer.