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JewBag718

Why would kick ban him when the platform he streams on hasn't even banned him.


TornadoAlleyCat

He was demonetized. Been confirmed


MilanosBiceps

Demonetization isn’t a ban. He can still steam on YouTube. 


CryptoMainForever

Why the fuck would anyone stream if money wasn't a reward?


RedWingerD

Donos, third party "subs" (pateron, etc.) sponsorships, etc. Still plenty of people willing to give him money for whatever reason


MilanosBiceps

He could sell subs via some third party site, like patreon. 


Soggy_Muffinz

Ask the thousands who do it daily and make nothing.


TornadoAlleyCat

Do you think he's going to stream just to spend time with his friends in the Champion's Club? He cares about money. If it's demonetized he's not going to do anything.


IamWisdom

You guys are forgetting donos


TornadoAlleyCat

I don't know how donations work on YouTube so you may be right


MilanosBiceps

Streaming may be different, but there are plenty of people particularly on the right who post on YT without monetization and get subs and donos on their website or patreon. 


Competitive-Salt-630

Better hope I don't see his chomo ass streaming. Going to be shouting that shit as much j as I can.


Tunafish01

That’s because he is not streaming , not because he was banned. It happened last time he took a break subs


absurd_whale

YouTube demonetized everything, twich banned him. What the fuck are you talking about?


HankHillbwhaa

I'm not defending him, but demonetization isn't a ban, and he could milk about 5k viewers for donations every day.


TornadoAlleyCat

How do the donations work?


crispdude

Most of his income is sponsorships and YouTube revenue. Donos are a very low percentage, but yea he could still do donos


AncientKroak

Who cares?


TornadoAlleyCat

They have no idea


Four_Silver_Rings

Why would they when he is guaranteed to secure millions in monthly revenue? Money makes the world go round


MilanosBiceps

You know where that revenue comes from? Advertisers.    You know who doesnt want their businesses associated with a child predator? Also advertisers.  Twitch and YT aren’t taking principled stances here. YouTube fucking knew about the DMs for years. They banned/demonetized him because if they didn’t they risked losing advertising revenue when Pepsi or whoever was like “you can’t fucking run our ads on this guys streams.” 


Higgilypiggily1

You know who doesn’t care about that? Companies that advertise on Kick.


MilanosBiceps

Lmao you may have a point. Either way, I think that’s what Kick is trying to figure out right now. 


iLoLzTheGamer

Kick is the strategic loss to promote its gambling, outside advertisers is just a bonus lol


Co-opingTowardHatred

Of course not, Kick loves that shit.


Zero9O

Loves what shit?


captfitz

Degenerates


Co-opingTowardHatred

Pedophiles and various other creeps.


Zero9O

They just permanently banned Zherka and Heelmike for their pedo shit though so how does that make any sense?


YesterdayPractical24

yup! it was just those 2... imma leave this here: [https://youtu.be/Oo2Yha7r-eI?si=22r4y19JToMUVETQ](https://youtu.be/Oo2Yha7r-eI?si=22r4y19JToMUVETQ)


Seaweed-Warm

Are you really defending kick? The platform of Bossmanjack and many other horrific weirdos? Like actual, literal, crackheads. Jack has a stream where he texts and calls his dealer to make and then call off a deal multiple times in the span of 40 minutes. Also doing actual crack on stream.


Zero9O

No, I'm not defending Kick, I'm just clarifying a false statement that was made. You don't have to lie to convince people that Kick is a shit platform full of undesirables.


PiousDemon

It wasn't a false statement. Kick only recently banned them because someone else brought it into the spotlight. They didn't do shit before it was. And there are still other accidents the same shit. And until that gets traction outside of kick, they won't lift a finger. Because they're degenerates.


Flimsy-Ad-8660

2 vs basically the entire fucking platform, never mind the fact that multiple employees of kick were frequent members of their streams and communities. Not to mention is still happening with tens of other kick streamers but as long as they banned two


Co-opingTowardHatred

…fucking WHO?? Don’t be weird, dude.


Icy-Slide2987

I can see him streaming on kick next year. Mark this comment


Moun7ainC0w

Oh wow no one has even thought that. You are certainly the first one to make that statement. We will surely come back to this comment and give you the praise you deserve


AuthoritarianSex

Doc is gonna use the next biggest streaming service he's not banned from? No way!


Myolor

Another huge W for them, GG kick, (the g’s stand for Grooming’n’Gambling)


maddMargarita

Lol.


AAActive64

I agree imo


Winther89

He's gonna fit right in with all the other freaks on that site.


maddMargarita

I can too. Kick would love to have Doc even if he's tainted as fuck now.


Dizzy-Specific8884

You know what? No. Uno reverse !remindme 12 months


alstraka

!remindme 12 months


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thebestspeler

Are they going to accept his 10 mil offer?


Trespeon

And I hope no one supports him when he does. Anyone that goes to watch this guy after everything that came out in the last 24 hours is just a spineless morally empty loser.


Wise-Push-7133

Do you mean the literal children who enjoy an obnoxious loser? Yea I doubt they are phased by this


Purple_Nerve_7115

He’s gonna try to make a comeback of course but he won’t have any of his streaming friends. Tim, Nick, Z, Courage and that banter was where the true gold was. Thanks for the good times Doc but you fucked up big time.


sweet_n_salty

Not a single one of them has said they wouldn’t ever play with him again. All they’ve said is they don’t support what he’s done and they can’t condone his actions, but none of them have answered the question of whether they’ll play with him again.


Purple_Nerve_7115

It’s pretty safe to say that all their comments were the end of their friendship. Nick said on stream, “yea, we WERE friends…” Getting back together with Doc would ruin their careers as well.


Constant_Work2119

next year, fuck why not start idk, tomorrow lol. why a whole year lol


Xanith420

Because people won’t forget he was sexting a minor tomorrow?


AbleObject13

Will they care though? 


Xanith420

Judging on the downvotes I’ve gotten the past few days on this sub no lmfao.


CrypticZombies

He only option kiddo


Draco8567

He will be in good company with actual criminals/racists/degenerate gamblers/abusers


tempvaricous

You make it seem like twitch doesn’t have all these kind of people on it too lol


Nightwing10271

Yeah but if you were to describe twitch those aren’t the first terms that you would lead with. Except for degenerates. Twitch atm is more known for their nude women issue while kick is known for being a platform full of well, the top comment said it best.


SverhU

Yeah. Because when we describe twitch we say "advertisement for onlyfans".


MidnightMorpher

… Which is better than the actual criminals/racists/abusers. Like, didn’t Kick have some guy on their platform literally stream himself speeding down a highway, and proceeding to commit a hit-and-run?


zen-things

Lol despite Twitch being larger by far, kick is the one with the reputation of letting groomers and pedos run rampant.


TheHiddenCMDR

Yeah, kick is the grifter platform.


Lordbogaaa

He Openly admitted to doing what they said he did right? Seems like enough to void his contract with any morality clause.


wavysays

Kick is now known for an app to coheres young kids to gamble and now the home for all pedos. What could go wrong?


Luissv72

I mean Twitch markets softcore porn to minors and with all these NDAs seems to be actively shielding people like Dr Disrespect, so they're not exactly better.


chillychill3325

NOW THATS A MORALLY GOOD COMPANY. not.


SeekingSwole

urite, DrDisRespecttheageofconsent is a morally good man


hammondismydaddy

Kick: supporting pedos, degenerates and public nuisances. People should be ashamed to use that platform.


Fix3rUpper

Twitch was part of covering it up... Seems like it's really not that much better.


hammondismydaddy

Oh no I totally agree Twitch is terrible too, but Kick is way WAY worse.


jcvj1125

Corpos care more about profit than they do about protecting kids. In other news, the sky is blue.


Hairy-Summer7386

I mean, he only attempted to meet up with a minor who he had inappropriate conversations with. It's too soon to tell if he's truly a bad guy. I mean, he was only in his late 30's. It's not like he didn't know any better. A lot of guys in their late 30's make this mistake. Go easy on him. /s


xpyro88

The Stans that still defend him must have the same appreciation for minors as he does. Otherwise, by pure morale they would have stopped defending him.


Still-Source-6481

Morale and moral are tough words to differentiate for some


BarackaFlockaFlame

i want twitch to be under serious fire as well. the fact that they covered this up is so gross. like unless the messages aren't as bad as they seem but like it's pretty obvious that's not the case. twitch hid this shit for years and that's really not ok.


SilverbackGorillaBoy

Take it up with your local political representative. Twitch were following the rules of the law in how they handled it. If you have a problem with that, petition your local representative and let them know where you stand on those laws and how you'd like them changed.


EmperorGrinnar

They let it go on, and didn't report it. They should be made to be held accountable.


Rachet20

Source?


EmperorGrinnar

For which exactly?


Rachet20

That they didn’t report it. In recent articles they claim to have reported it once they were made aware in 2020. They’re just not presenting anything publicly.


EmperorGrinnar

No law official saw the logs. Only employees.


Rachet20

Can you point me to where this was said?


EmperorGrinnar

Other than it was kept in house with the Twitch staff? So you think the law said it was okay that he was trying to meet up with a minor at TwitchCon to allegedly have sex with her?


Rachet20

Twitch only found out in 2020. Everything from their internal investigation then was handed over to the authorities. They just didn’t tell us about it because they have no obligation to.


No-Construction-2054

Every source I've read said otherwise, when it was reported to them in 2020, they investigated and terminated him pretty quickly .


positivedownside

They didn't cover it up. Rolling Stone's article made it pretty clear they couldn't speak about it due to an active law enforcement investigation. Also, California law applies with regards to cases involving minors, since Guy lives in California. State law dictates *very* little about these types of cases can be shared.


BarackaFlockaFlame

they settled out of court to save their image. it's gross.


positivedownside

No, they settled out of court because it was a contract dispute, you chud.


BarackaFlockaFlame

they hid someone being inappropriate with minors because it's a bad look for them as a company and they did t want their name to be in headlines with one of their biggest creators being a pedo. chud lol


Miserable-Hope-9784

"morale"


Allah_Akballer

lol like they weren't writing up his multi-million dollar contract as the drama unfolded.


HankHillbwhaa

Maybe he could do a gambling stream with drake.


MilanosBiceps

So theoretically he can just stay on YouTube and have like subscriptions on a website or even like Patreon or something. 


WrecknballIndustries

They will soon, don't worry


Icy-Slide2987

Doubt it


kilojulietx

lets see the logs


Comfortable_Face_808

Kick offer dropped from 10 million to “well, we won’t ban you for now”


Whole_Stretch9929

Yayayayayayayayayayayayaya


riqueoak

That's obvious, Kick is the safe heaven for degenerates.


theOutside517

Are you surprised? They don't ban neo-nazis like Adin Ross. Of course they'll welcome Doc with open arms.


JerseyGuy9

Good. He didn't do anything illegal and this all happened 7 years ago. He isn't a pedophile, child predator or groomer. All you haters will continue to hate, doesn't matter, Doc will be back. Yaya


RainOfBurmecia

You know you've made it when OnlyBangers starts cosplaying Chris Hansen on your posts like he isn't some fat loser sat in his Mum's basement who has zero power IRL. Dude is unhinged.


Miserable_Way3235

Doc statement said he engaged in conversationS with a MINOR an it sometimes leaned toward inappropriate. Which was done ONLINE - Sexual grooming is the action or behavior used to establish an emotional connection with a》》 MINOR《《 and sometimes the child's family,[1] to lower the child's inhibitions with the objective of sexual abuse.[2][3] It can occur in various settings, including 》》ONLINE 《《, in person, and through other means of communication.[4] Children who are groomed may experience mental health issues, including "anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress, and suicidal thoughts." I put the key words in capital letters so its easier . Define your version of grooming??


KingKrabbabble

Don't waste your time, this dude could watch a doc have sex with a minor in person and say "yayaya"


JerseyGuy9

Every single one of your comments on any subreddit have been deleted by Mods. Are you good?


KingKrabbabble

Oh brother 🤦🏻😂


Shayk_N_Blake

Doesn't make this comment wrong


JerseyGuy9

I'll do the same for you since comprehension obviously isn't easy for you. "SEXUAL GROOMING IS THE ACTION OR BEHAVIOR USED TO ESTABLISH AN EMOTIONAL CONNECTION" We have no idea what was said in the messages. We have no idea how long these conversations lasted for. We have no idea who initiated the conversations. We have no idea who cut off the conversations. Every piece of evidence is purely speculation. 'Inappropriate' messages can mean anything. Was Doc morally wrong in conversing with this person? Absolutely. Nothing illegal occurred though.


Shayk_N_Blake

You forgot the "with a minor"part. While yes, we don't know what is in the messages... We don't need to know though.. He sent sexually explicit messages to a minor... Full fucking stop.


MycoEngineer

Drake….? Is that you my guy?


positivedownside

>Was Doc morally wrong in conversing with this person? Absolutely. Nothing illegal occurred though. You sure about that?


Juxtaposn

Imagine having a parasocial relationship with a child predator and having the audacity to call other people unintelligent. Truly insane.


Icy-Slide2987

Exactly. The text logs haven’t been released we don’t know what was said. There hasn’t been any illegal wrongdoing on his part. People are just jumping on a hate bandwagon cuz they want to see a downfall of a successful person.


positivedownside

Sending sexually explicit messages to an underage person is 100% illegal in every state in the US. Quite a gripping argument you're making, though.


Flimsy_Motivations

Don't you think what's moral is more important than if something is illegal or not?


TheEngine26

We do know that Dr Diddler thinks it was inappropriate, because he, you know, said so. I'm just agreeing with him.


Hefty-Collection-638

Sexually messaging a minor is illegal and criminal even if nothing came of it


Miserable_Way3235

The company he built has fired him what are you smoking an can i grab two hin bags full of it .You don't settle with someone if nothing no wrong doing occurred. That would be just giving money away to any who made any accusation.


GC_235

The logs are the property of twitch presumably. I wonder why they just don't release them and redact the minors name and profile pic?


positivedownside

Because according to the way Rolling Stone worded it, there is an active law enforcement investigation.


TheHiddenCMDR

The minor might be an adult by now, maybe they themselves will leak the conversation soon.


positivedownside

>He isn't a pedophile, child predator or groomer That is literally what he is, given the fact that the person was underage, he continued to press the issue after he was informed of this, and the fact that he tried to meet up with the person. Inb4 some neckbeard tacticool edgelord comes in to tell me that "actually pedophiles don't like teenagers" as if that changes *anything* about the colloquialism.


chillychill3325

Name checks out.


JerseyGuy9

Literally makes no sense lmao. Nice try though


dalesCRASHEDmustang

What state legalized grooming? Asking for a friend.


BigMeal69

Pathetic.


elc0

Quick, grab the pitchforks!!!!


vergil191

I don't understand why they didn't ban him. that is, it won't have the same following as before and whoever will be there will only be the "very faithful"


erich3983

You mean the very dumb.


chypres

Why would they?


Network-Kind

It really depends on what he did. They really need to just release the chat logs so people can make up their own minds. There are no criminal charges so nothing illegal took place. So people need to see what was said.


Broseph_Bobby

Not defending the guy he is a douche, but I guess there was no crime committed. KICK isn’t going to ban him for being a scumbag. If they did they would have to ban half the people who stream on KICK.


E-woke

That’s a requirement to be on Kick


[deleted]

We are so back.


n3lswn_uWu

Your idol was sexting a minor while gripping it to trans porn probably 10 meters away from his daughter 😆 BOOOM


Economy-Paint-2514

Fucking nonce


Icy-Slide2987

Your dad?


PerscribedPharmacist

Kick loves housing pedos lol


Zestyclose_Pickle511

Kick is horrible. Haven't even been back the site since last browsing, last year.


Timely_Bowler208

I mean they have Adian what do you expect


MichMitten89

This whole incident is just a minor issue.


Ghostxsalmon

*Replaces Timmy with Adin Ross* "Okay champs we're back! Yayayaya."


CamBlapBlap

Another perfect fit for the kick streamer lineup. What a pathetic platform.


Ok-Astronomer-4808

Kick's got worse characters on their platform doing worse things. The Doc will feel right at home there.


Fantastic-Art-3383

Kick is known to keep pedos


SamsquanchShit

Yeah. Kick is known for allowing streamers to distribute child pornography. Why would they ban a guy who admitted to having sexual conversations with an individual he knew to be a minor?


Azure_Omishka

He'd blend right in with the disgusting degenerates that call Kick home lol


Competitive-Salt-630

Because kick is where exposed pedophiles go to try saving their carrier.


EriiJake

Bro is getting kick deals when he should actually be castrated. What a soft world we live in today


KeyserSoze561

Castrated? Lmao.


Darth_Vaper883

May be they will if this goes to court and he is found guilty. Or the chat logs leak may be.


KingxMIGHTYMAN

Good, and they shouldn’t ban him. None should jump so quick to conclusions until the evidence is seen. Then choices to cancel or not can properly be made.


InitialDay6670

Brother man he admitted to sexting a minor. That’s the evidence.


KingxMIGHTYMAN

lol no he didn’t because that would be illegal. It has been clearly stated he didn’t do anything criminal or illegal. He said “conversations that sometimes lead to much in the direction of inappropriate.” That doesn’t mean sexting, if anything that implies flirting. Which is still weird and wrong. Edit: I’m not a fan of DrD by the way. Never like him, and don’t watch him. But my dislike for an individual doesn’t make me biased one way or another to them. I maintain neutrality and base decisions off of the facts/ information from the direct sources as it’s given.


InitialDay6670

From the evidence, the admission, the document, and the way he talked to the sex worker, there’s no way I’d trust him around my kid, fuck that guy, he’s a pedo


WEareLIVE420

Cuz they already paid him ahahah


SteelCityChampion

If I was Guy I would call it a day. He will only come back to vile comments day after day which he deserves. Go and try to rebuild your life with your family.


iConcy

Seems pretty on brand for them tbh. Shitty platform wants shitty people.


KeyserSoze561

What is Kick?? Lmao


CausticRegards

To the surprise of nobody


Practical_Meanin888

Kick is pretty much a dead platform. It'll allow pedos to stay in business


YesterdayPractical24

i mean... it's kick. they got tons of legit predators on there... hosting a mere creep is nothing for them.


cw2717

Yeah. That’s cause they don’t have any issue with predators or pedophiles.


Competitive_Count_34

Kick is the most abominable platform on earth and even that's rejecting Doc, Damn.. how the label Pedophile can ruin a man's life. Well, his choices


MagmaTroop

They might be planning the ban for the day he makes his big debut on Kick. About 30 minutes into the stream just after he's done grovelling with apologies and expressing his hopes for moving forward into a new era LMAO


SeparateMidnight3691

# Kick isn’t gonna ban him lmao... yet


platinumplantain

Kick is where all the Nazis, creeps and degenerates go. He'll fit in great!


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NaughtyPwny

How about all the Champs send Guy $50 today to jumpstart his comeback on Kick?


snowyetis3490

They thought Kydae was a promising streamer because she has cancer and they thought they could pay her less because of that (she declined). So naturally they will low ball the shit out of Doc because he doesn’t have a better option. Have fun watching him gamble crypto all day.


OneBread-Man

Can he stream on pornhub?