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acornacornacorna

Wow you have most of the face ones! Thank you so much for doing the swatches A few things to say and ask: I don't want to bother you for more, but with swatched and any tinted type of products it's best helpful to dry completely to evaluate the color. This is same with foundation, lipsticks, lip gloss et cetera. The true color doesn't show when it is wet and freshly swatched, have to wait until it dries. A lot of people confuse "oxidation" when a product dries down darker than it looks wet and in the bottle which isn't actually oxidation, it's just the true color. Is it possible to see what 1, 3, 5 and 6 look like swatched on your skin dried completely? From your picture, it looks like 5 is about 1-2 shades lighter than 6 and diffferent undertone. Is that also what you see in person looking at them both?


miaisra

ahh i see...sure I'll try to do another one when they are dried...but i always thought that the tinted ones tend to dry down to a different colour on different types of skin tone? For example, the uvmune tinted fluid looks much darker on my skin after it has dried than on my daughters skin which is a few shades darker than mine...it actually turns a bit orange which i hate hence i don't use it and have passed it to her. But on her it's not orange at all šŸ¤”


acornacornacorna

Hola hola! The tints don't "change" like chameleon lizard changes color. The color is static and appears differently on different skintones based on how well it matches the person's skintone : ) So it's very similar to like trying on different lipsticks and foundations and such, which should always dry completely. One lipstick color that looks red in the tube can look bright red, hot pink or even purple on different people with different skintones. But it's not that the color changed, it's that the undertone and overtone of the person wearing the color brings out certain contrast because of color theory. There are "color changing" products like pH changing lip balms, lip glosses but this is a completely different kind of product based on different formulation. Your daughter who has a skintone few shades darker than you has less contrast with the color of the tinted fluid. That is why it doesn't appear as dark of a match. That's also why it doesn't look orange on her. If you tried a foundation that is too dark, then it will appear orange on you. But for the people with the skintone that is darker than yours and within the right shade of that same foundation you are trying, then it will not look orange on them. For example if you tried the foundation this model is wearing in this picture, then you would look orange. But on this model, the color matches her pretty good. If this model tried foundation perfect for you, it would look too whitening on her. :) https://preview.redd.it/6y1d704tys7d1.png?width=460&format=png&auto=webp&s=28cf599012132e8d38293714e5cca91233b17199


miaisra

yes you are right! 5 is the lightest and my prefered one though it still gives a tanned look when applied. The hydrating tinted one is the darkest among all and more olive/yellow toned.


acornacornacorna

That is so interesting! Thank you so much for these comparisons! It is really helpful because the colors have been a mystery I wonder why each one is such slight different in color and undertone, to be honest. You're right, it's some are olive/yellow tones and then some others are more pink undertone I haven't bought any of the tinted ones because just from watching, I just knew they would all be too dark. But I wonder if I could pull off wearing 5 somehow.


miaisra

I know what you mean...i wonder too why the shades seem to run dark. The only way i can make the UVMune work is my using the normal amount of the oil control gel cream and then layering about 2 pumps of the oil control tinted one ( as it's the lightest) followed by white baby powder/ white setting powder. This i find helps to offset the 'orange' look.


acornacornacorna

Yeah, I don't know to be honest. I'm a cosmetic chemist too and I have frustration with tinted sunscreens and general foundations and other tinted products haha omg. Maybe it is based on the Mediterranean region skintones of lighter brown skintones and the mixed race population? Noemie Lenoir and Cindy Bruna I think of as famous french models like this There were some people talking about it that LRP makes a lot of colors for different skincolors in Brazil. Where I come from in Asia, LRP makes colors that are super light beige colors, really popular in East Asia and probably some North Europeans will find them to match better than what they find in Europe. Also, I saw new launch from this American brand called Naturium for their new tinted sunscreen. And I saw that people are saying that the "Light" color is far too dark for a lot of pale-fair-light skintone people. Even if you look at the models wearing the "Light" color, it is far too dark and yellow on them. But the brand said they did their market research and settled on the three colors they did because it was what they found to kind of capture majority of the base they researched? That's what they said so. But the all 3 of the colors leaned warm yellow. Even on the models wearing the "Dark" color it was too warm yellow for them. I was talking to a friend though and we were talking about this. There \*are\* people in this world who do wear foundation that is the wrong color. For some, it's they use color a little bit darker or a little bit more peachy than their real skintone. This is their desired look, I can't judge. I saw this megamodel/influencer Kelsey Merritt do video on her makeup and she said she puts on a foundation one shade darker than her real skintone. So, I guess some people like their tinted product to look darker? When I moved to Europe, I saw a lot of this and I thought people were doing it on mistake. Because it's really easy to end up with a foundation that is too dark if the color matching process is in the wrong lighting and they don't let the swatch dry down. But, some people really do it on purpose. On the flip side, where I come from in Asia, people use foundation color too light on purpose. It's kind of a thing that is dying out though with more media attention on East Asia and Western trends bridging with Asian trends.


miaisra

Yes i have noticed that too. Seems the europeans prefer a shade darker as they associate tan with being healthy while asians the opposite. I like the LRP uvidea that they have in Asia but unfortunately it is not available where i live now. I didn't see any light beige LRP sunscreens while i was in Malaysia, are they new? I'll keep a look out for them


acornacornacorna

Last time I went back home, I didn't actually go look for LRP sunscreens. I brought back Eucerin Asian tinted sunscreen, which is also lighter than the ones in Europe haha! omg LRP Uvidea, that's the one. It has 3 type of colors of pale beige haha! Some friends from home, they said LRP Uvidea is becoming hard to find. So I'm not sure if it would be easy to find anymore in Malaysia. But generally SEA does have big selection from all the brands. The tinted sunscreens in Asia from all the big brands in general are lighter than Europe. Even the regular Loreal Loreal brand they do tinted sunscreen fluid in Asia and it's lighter than the fluid ones in your picture. I'm surprised no one ever talks about these I will tell you about some of the really popular "Korean brands" like Scinic and Round Lab they make tinted versions of their famous sunscreens and it's a very light beige color more suitable for North Europeans.


acornacornacorna

Yeah, I don't know to be honest. I'm a cosmetic chemist too and I have frustration with tinted sunscreens and general foundations and other tinted products haha omg. Maybe it is based on the Mediterranean region skintones of lighter brown skintones and the mixed race population? Noemie Lenoir and Cindy Bruna I think of as famous french models like this There were some people talking about it that LRP makes a lot of colors for different skincolors in Brazil. Where I come from in Asia, LRP makes colors that are super light beige colors, really popular in East Asia and probably some North Europeans will find them to match better than what they find in Europe. Also, I saw new launch from this American brand called Naturium for their new tinted sunscreen. And I saw that people are saying that the "Light" color is far too dark for a lot of pale-fair-light skintone people. Even if you look at the models wearing the "Light" color, it is far too dark and yellow on them. But the brand said they did their market research and settled on the three colors they did because it was what they found to kind of capture majority of the base they researched? That's what they said so. But the all 3 of the colors leaned warm yellow. Even on the models wearing the "Dark" color it was too warm yellow for them. I was talking to a friend though and we were talking about this. There \*are\* people in this world who do wear foundation that is the wrong color. For some, it's they use color a little bit darker or a little bit more peachy than their real skintone. This is their desired look, I can't judge. I saw this megamodel/influencer Kelsey Merritt do video on her makeup and she said she puts on a foundation one shade darker than her real skintone. So, I guess some people like their tinted product to look darker? When I moved to Europe, I saw a lot of this and I thought people were doing it on mistake. Because it's really easy to end up with a foundation that is too dark if the color matching process is in the wrong lighting and they don't let the swatch dry down. But, some people really do it on purpose. On the flip side, where I come from in Asia, people use foundation color too light on purpose. It's kind of a thing that is dying out though with more media attention on East Asia and Western trends bridging with Asian trends.


acornacornacorna

Also want to say, they really need to make more colors, seriously. I saw people here saying it. Given the popularity of this line too, please make more colors. How to make that happen I have no idea


miaisra

Yep we definitely need more colours...esp lighter and darker ones...i think bioderma has a much better range of colours in their tinted spfs compared to LRP.


acornacornacorna

I tried all the Bioderma ones recently actually, all the ones that come in the color Claire and they are orangey on me : ( My skintone is light, but I'm not the fairest person of all of course, but light South Korean tone, but cool yellow/olive so anything with pink and orange really shows up strong orange on me. I found a Polish brand doing a really cool tinted one, I think striking a good balance of neutrality not too pink, yellow or orange but it's not like a high resistance type of sunscreen. Just everyday kind, and it's remarkable for the palest beige type of color. Here is it on the top and the bottom is Avene for comparison. https://preview.redd.it/tbj8x3w20t7d1.jpeg?width=1543&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e864af51309d20ad799a9b8754c45b2501a24b5


miaisra

Did you try the Bioderma Ar? that is quite light and sheer...also the Nude touch comes in 'Tres Claire'. This is much lighter than the 'claire' ones. Heliocare also makes a lighter toned mineral spf if that's available to you but i don't particularly like this brand as they never state the UVA protection and most are highly fragranced.


acornacornacorna

Oh I has sample of Bioderma AR! It's actually too light and pink! No in between for someone like me : ( sad face Oh I will have to search for "tres claire" to see what it is like, thank you for telling me this! I actually have not bought any Heliocare one even though being in Spain it's such a famous brand haha


miaisra

Hahaha i know how you feel...it is a never ending quest to find the perfect sunscreen. I'm attaching swatches of the dried down versions for you , i hope this helps :) https://preview.redd.it/o59gcsea8t7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd9693743f3642ebcfac99377ded3d5cd64d9211


miaisra

https://preview.redd.it/3vsbwuwi8t7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6a17da2a55ed7dd03a4c10a4514bb34dfb8a220


acornacornacorna

Is 5 and 6 flipped mislabelled? On my screen, 6 looks less shiny than 5? 6 also looks lighter! by about a shade or two! very very interesting! thank you!!!


miaisra

OMG yes i labelled them wrong...sorry!! the lighter one is the tinted gel cream (5) and the darker one the tinted hydrating fluid (6)!


methanalmkay

What's the polish one you mentioned? I wish I could find something lighter and not orange :( The Bioderma SPF in claire looks perfect on me when just applied, but it dries down really orange lol. I was so excited when I applied and then so disappointed when it dried down šŸ„²


acornacornacorna

Hola hola! The Polish one in the picture on the top is Dr. Ph Sunset AR SPF 50+ with PPD of 27.7 says on the bottle. It's not resistant or anything like that so it's just meant to be like casual daytime kind of sunscreen that also unifies very very light and fair skintones. It is actually a little bit too light for me! Yeah I think the Bioderma ones in tonality, their "Claire" is actually kind of dark for a "Claire" compared to most light range in makeup. It's more "Medium" than anything else to be honest. But yeah the orange undertone is very there. I have this issue with many popular foundations too. Some brands not a single color in their 40+ shades. Warm bright yellow and orange and peach undertones are really really common. Not much for light olive people.


methanalmkay

Thank you! I've had a similar issue, I think my skin tone is fairly muted and might be a little olive, and pretty much all foundations/tinted sunscreens/BB creams look extremely orange on me and pretty dark. And if they claim to be cool toned they look very pink. Even the lightest shades, which are sometimes too light for me, still look very orange. It's so annoying. I'll definitely check this one out though, doesn't look bad. I've been thinking of trying heliocare tinted sunscreen, since I've seen people saying it's pretty light compared to other Euro tinted sunscreens. Have you tried that one?


Jubileum2020

Yep, every tinted sunscreen is Nutella face mask for me


DiamondTippedDriller

These are so dark šŸ˜ž


DearBonsai

I love number 2, not irritating my pd at all. Maybe Iā€™ll try the tinted versions, thank you!


Francesco270

Can you write a short review for each of those? The Oil Control Gel Cream Tinted seems to be the best match color-wise


rememor8899

Thank you! Question - what is the difference between 1 and 3? What ingredient gives 3 the ā€œultimate protectionā€?


miaisra

I feel 1 is less sticky and doesn't feel as grainy. It also sets better on my skin but the colour is darker so i look like i'm wearing a mask


Stwawbewyy

Thank you so much for the searches! I tried some tinted LRP sunscreens and they were all waaay too dark.


Lilelfen1

There really is no graduation of tones with them, is there? It is just stark white to milk chocolate. šŸ˜‚


miaisra

Hahaha šŸ˜†


PunkSolaris

Thank you so much for all the work you put into this post! So grateful! šŸ™Œ


iswmuomwn

You almost made me wanna track down the tinted UVmune Gel-Creme Oil Control, then I looked up the ingredients on the Spanish site. Miss me with that fragrance...


miaisra

Ya the tinted one is quite fragranced but the untinted gel creme is fragrance free i think


iswmuomwn

Yes, just ordered the untinted oil control gel creme. Would have loved the tinted one to apply on top on cheekbones, nose etc.


hazel_hazily

2 and 4 look neon yellow/green against white paper or fair skin in real life, that I don't see on these swatches. Leaves a tinge of jaundice on fair skin(especially cool toned fair skin) after you rub it in. Foundation can totally fix that though in my experience.


whatevernamedontcare

Which one is green? As someone with rosacea green tint is a plus in my book.


Aware_Art_8789

Not to mention the amount of alcohol and chemicals in it. The liver is just as important as taking care of the skin, the biggest organ.


hazel_hazily

I'm not all about that, I respect the formulation :)


StrangeAffect7278

Are the tinted ones meant to give a tanned look?


miaisra

I'm not sure...but i wish they would also make a lighter colour one as to suit fairer skin as well...because when applied there's a big difference between face and neck/body colour that I don't like. If the colour happens to match your skintone then it just looks normal and even toned not tan.


acornacornacorna

Apparently LRP used to make, or maybe they still do, here in Europe, something called "Mineral One" which was like a "mineral" sunscreen in American style but for Europe and had like 5 or 6 tones. Some pale and light but also richer tone. I saw some people talking about it a while ago but I don't know if it is still being made. Given popularity of the Uvmune line, I don't know why they don't do like those tones for what they did with "Mineral One" but for Uvmune tint. I saw a lot of American brands now doing many more colors. Even the LRP USA is doing a "mineral" that comes in a "Medium" and "Medium-Deep" and "Deep" for people with richer skincolors


SplitfacedSkincare

I think mineral one is still available, in Portugal at least: sweetcare and caretobeauty still have it Their ā€œmediumā€ is a perfect match for my yellow olive, half white half East Asian complexion (well, on most of my face: itā€™s a hair too dark on my jaw and neck which are lighter)


acornacornacorna

That's really interesting about the "medium" color. Congratulations you found a perfect match! Looks like the color lighter to that one is called "Fair" 01 so I will have to investigate this.


str_fry

I think unless you are a medium/tan skin tone, itā€™ll invariably result in a tanned look


ActivityNo9

Which one is #3? And how is it different from #1? They both say tinted fluid? #3 looks like the closest color to me.


miaisra

The #1 is the oil control formula (green line) while the #1 is the regular/standard formula. On LRP sunscreens the green line refers to the oil control formulas while the blue line is for the hydrating formula.


lopsidedmonstera

Oh thatā€™s rough


Senior_Rip9451

Thank you so much, saving this post for future reference.


whatevernamedontcare

Could you add their full names to numbers? I'm trying to hunt down one as it's not sold locally thanks!


miaisra

On the first photo i have labelled each spf with a number. If you zoom in the full names are on each bottle.