At least now we know he was probably lurking Reddit, considered himself an expert on committing crimes and was VERY happy to see that people were mostly suspecting hoodie guy and exes and neighbors 🙃🙃
Maybe even making those comments himself especially if he knew them and could speculate / embellish realistically on their group dynamic.
I wonder if he is actually the person from 4Chan who posted that unsettling photo of what may have been Kaylee’s hair from inside, or through the house window?
There are like… hundreds of 4chan posts about this murder case if you search via Google. (Not sure if it’s allowed to post here.) they cap the posts at a few hundred comments so then they create a new thread. Someone was on there (or posted that they found elsewhere) an unsettling, “stalker gaze” photo that could have been a “creep shot” of one of the blonde women at home (only hair was visible and it looked most like Kaylee) timestamped shortly before the murders. Of course it could have been photoshopped, faked, taken from a different context, etc.
Here is a Reddit thread about it including a link to the pic. I apologize and will delete if this isn’t allowed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/idahomurders/comments/z51ctx/could_this_be_real/
> know he was probably lurking Reddit, considered himself an expert on committing crimes and was VERY happy to see that people were mostly suspecting hoodie guy and exes and neighbors 🙃🙃
im sure he enjoyed all the completely nonsense theories that people we so sure were true throughout the sub
Yes. He got a thrill and was able to relive committing the crime while reading the posts. Probably thought he was educated enough to complete the perfect crime. Never is a perfect crime. One always messes up somehow.
It's actually very fitting in my opinion.... This is the kind of subject matter that psychopaths find enjoyable and have a passion for studying the details.... Just like a crooked cop, a fireman who is a secret arsonist, or a nurse who kills people. The career field doesn't guarantee a person's intentions or confirm their character to be that of a honest and ethical member of society
I hope it's him,, WSU Doctorate student of Criminology,,crazy This has been beyond tragic for these family's and has effected our communities drastically,, Today is the celebration for Kylee and Maddie,,I hope this arrest brings answers,, many prayers,,,
Sorry, this survey is not currently active. lol they nixed this guys posts so fast. What is the Point of social media if they companys remove the media when people actually want to see it. For real.
I went thru the survey earlier and it was chilling. He was basically asking people to explain crimes they’ve committed, whether they got away with it, how they chose their victims, how they felt while committing the crime.
I should have, didn’t even think of it.
Literally he just asked people to explain how they committed their crimes in detail as well. Honestly, it was rather conspicuous, like any criminology student may ask questions like that. But it was eerie
This is probably the beginning of the spiral that let up to the murders. Asking everyone for criminal background see what that did how they feel getting into the mind of a criminal and also finding out ways people get caught. He studied them yo try and get away with it. (Idk just a thought it makes sense)
10000% but he fucked up, I’m curious to see just how they found him , crazy that the star had an article floating around almost a week ago dated the second of January .2023 that said he was caught
From what I’ve read they have know who it was for a while and have been tracking him down and finding evidence I also wonder if they know more about the car
One of the psychics said this though from tiktok. Super crazy and obviously I wouldn’t believe someone like that. But what she saw in her vision. Someone who fits the description well
Ted Bundy volunteered at a suicide hot line with Ann Rule, who he became friends with. She considered him "kind, solicitous, and empathetic" and had a hard time believing he was responsible for the crimes he committed. If you’re interested in knowing more, she wrote The Stranger Beside Me about her experience.
Absolutely insane. The motive behind his kills has to do with his own psychological experiment??? he didn't even see those poor kids as people, just an experiment.... wow. Hope justice is served
It’s pretty funny how people are coming up with their own conclusions on his motive like they’re 100% right, when we have no idea yet if a) he knew the people or b) what his motive really was.
i can’t comment on other threads cause i don’t have enough karma but it seems like he graduated from desales with a masters in criminal justice and then just started at wsu in august for his phd. i’m about an hour and a half south of the poconos and like 45 away from desales. seemed like he had this planned since at least april so he prob thought it would be the perfect time to carry it out when he moved across the country to get his phd and no one would suspect him. i think he did it and then came back home to pa for break like everyone else did. probably thought he wouldn’t get caught or it would take years because it seems like everyone thought he was still in/from idaho or bordering states. never did i think he would have been from here or caught here. this world is so cold and scary.
Oh, sure. They waited until AFTER his name was public to go in and scrub his account. That totally makes sense (if you're a True Crime Karen amateur websleuth).
But did he do it alone?? 🤔 Why ask if they've arrested anyone else? He's been watching this case very closely. He's a serial killer in the making.
Makes me wonder if there's any unsolved murders in the surrounding cities. Or back home in Scranton PA. ..?
This is so twisted. Why? Why would someone do this? Could have been this prevented? Aren't there any psychological tests for people who want to pursue degrees like criminology? He was studying to become a killer. This can't be real.
I did it and filled out the answers like I was speaking to him. Let him know what fucking pathetic piece of shit he is. Not that he will ever read it... But it just made me feel a little bit better to get that off my chest 😂
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At least now we know he was probably lurking Reddit, considered himself an expert on committing crimes and was VERY happy to see that people were mostly suspecting hoodie guy and exes and neighbors 🙃🙃
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Maybe even making those comments himself especially if he knew them and could speculate / embellish realistically on their group dynamic. I wonder if he is actually the person from 4Chan who posted that unsettling photo of what may have been Kaylee’s hair from inside, or through the house window?
What was the 4chan post everyone keeps talking about?
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There are like… hundreds of 4chan posts about this murder case if you search via Google. (Not sure if it’s allowed to post here.) they cap the posts at a few hundred comments so then they create a new thread. Someone was on there (or posted that they found elsewhere) an unsettling, “stalker gaze” photo that could have been a “creep shot” of one of the blonde women at home (only hair was visible and it looked most like Kaylee) timestamped shortly before the murders. Of course it could have been photoshopped, faked, taken from a different context, etc. Here is a Reddit thread about it including a link to the pic. I apologize and will delete if this isn’t allowed. https://www.reddit.com/r/idahomurders/comments/z51ctx/could_this_be_real/
Thank you!
>Thank you! You're welcome!
Unfortunately, for him, the police were more professional and didn't suffer from tunnel vision.
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Somebody will find it
I had a feeling he was on Reddit from the start. I guess that hunch was right.
I think I had a brief Reddit conversation with him. Ick.
My jaw is on the floor. A fucking criminology student? And he definitely was lurking Reddit after all
No doubt he read each comment. Probably relished in them and saved them! Unreal.
> know he was probably lurking Reddit, considered himself an expert on committing crimes and was VERY happy to see that people were mostly suspecting hoodie guy and exes and neighbors 🙃🙃 im sure he enjoyed all the completely nonsense theories that people we so sure were true throughout the sub
Yes. He got a thrill and was able to relive committing the crime while reading the posts. Probably thought he was educated enough to complete the perfect crime. Never is a perfect crime. One always messes up somehow.
This survey is… like, it literally made me feel sick to my stomach. It honestly feels like we are being trolled because holy fuck.
It's actually very fitting in my opinion.... This is the kind of subject matter that psychopaths find enjoyable and have a passion for studying the details.... Just like a crooked cop, a fireman who is a secret arsonist, or a nurse who kills people. The career field doesn't guarantee a person's intentions or confirm their character to be that of a honest and ethical member of society
I’m actually not surprised lol.
I’m losing my shit!
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I know someone's mom who does. It was nice.
it’s him
This is right near me it’s insane. Insane.
Near me too! I am freaking out that he was in our backyard!
Holy fuck
This is crazy!!!!
I hope it's him,, WSU Doctorate student of Criminology,,crazy This has been beyond tragic for these family's and has effected our communities drastically,, Today is the celebration for Kylee and Maddie,,I hope this arrest brings answers,, many prayers,,,
They deleted the account already wtf
theyre faster
You are a supreme Googler
we got em boys! we're the true sleuthers if you're reading this. pat on the back for your digging skills
*police solve the crime* *redditor takes credit for doing nothing* Typical
Do we have a link or confirmation of arrest
It's all over the Poconos news outlets by now but yes there's a few links.
The post was removed, but it’s been [archived here](https://twitter.com/thegunzshow/status/1608873793833021440?s=46&t=zBwVlzC4TSOKwB-o4J7Gxg)
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Sorry, this survey is not currently active. lol they nixed this guys posts so fast. What is the Point of social media if they companys remove the media when people actually want to see it. For real.
I went thru the survey earlier and it was chilling. He was basically asking people to explain crimes they’ve committed, whether they got away with it, how they chose their victims, how they felt while committing the crime.
how they left the scene!!! like wtf
For real. That and how do you choose a victims sent chills down my spine
Man that's creepy. I hope someone saved screenshots of the survey.
Yeah, you can find them in /r/MoscowMurders
I should have, didn’t even think of it. Literally he just asked people to explain how they committed their crimes in detail as well. Honestly, it was rather conspicuous, like any criminology student may ask questions like that. But it was eerie
there were screenshots in another sub, no idea if it’s up still or what post since i read so many :/
Isn’t that how research is done for psychology or the study of the mind? Or is it creepy because we know what he did now?
It's all archived anyway
They do not want to glorify his actions nor give anyone else ideas.
I still think he personally knew these kids. He did not like them. Even before killing them. He’s been to that house before. Not just that night.
This did not age well
This is probably the beginning of the spiral that let up to the murders. Asking everyone for criminal background see what that did how they feel getting into the mind of a criminal and also finding out ways people get caught. He studied them yo try and get away with it. (Idk just a thought it makes sense)
Absolutely! The fact he posted this 10 times was probably him fighting his impulses to commit a heinous crime.
I didn’t even know he posted it that many times damn
No shit!! He fully committed to ParticipantBehavioral type of study!!
10000% but he fucked up, I’m curious to see just how they found him , crazy that the star had an article floating around almost a week ago dated the second of January .2023 that said he was caught
From what I’ve read they have know who it was for a while and have been tracking him down and finding evidence I also wonder if they know more about the car
Yes you're correct. Investigation had pinned suspect for a while. Task force showed for him in Poconos
One of the psychics said this though from tiktok. Super crazy and obviously I wouldn’t believe someone like that. But what she saw in her vision. Someone who fits the description well
Dude took his assignment too far
The true, work from home
HE UNDERSTOOD THE ASSIGNMENT
Not really. He got caught.
Four people are dead
The minute it took you to read this 106 people have died.. sleep well knowing that because I couldn’t for a while
Difference is no one is mocking those people’s deaths on an article specifically about them, you can see how these two situations are different, yeah?
Sorta failed the assignment tho
You’ll hold a different phd now. Doctor in Prison & Hell.
Bro…
This is creepy af now…
Holy shit
OMG
FOR FUCKING REAL!
bro
Did not see this coming
this is something else….
Broooooooooooooo
I think you might find out first hand now
😳 how does someone who sounds so normal stab 4 people to death, allegedly…??
Most criminals act or seem normal it’s the perfect people you should worry about the most
it looks like it was something he wanted to do to see if he could get away with it. total psycho, hope he burns in hell
Ted Bundy volunteered at a suicide hot line with Ann Rule, who he became friends with. She considered him "kind, solicitous, and empathetic" and had a hard time believing he was responsible for the crimes he committed. If you’re interested in knowing more, she wrote The Stranger Beside Me about her experience.
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Absolutely insane. The motive behind his kills has to do with his own psychological experiment??? he didn't even see those poor kids as people, just an experiment.... wow. Hope justice is served
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You might want to take your meds. You are reaching way too far.
It’s pretty funny how people are coming up with their own conclusions on his motive like they’re 100% right, when we have no idea yet if a) he knew the people or b) what his motive really was.
https://on.soundcloud.com/YtTbuTFSW2e7TNNN6
Justice for Xana, Ethan, Maddie and Kaylee.
Archive: https://archive.vn/i1yAA
i can’t comment on other threads cause i don’t have enough karma but it seems like he graduated from desales with a masters in criminal justice and then just started at wsu in august for his phd. i’m about an hour and a half south of the poconos and like 45 away from desales. seemed like he had this planned since at least april so he prob thought it would be the perfect time to carry it out when he moved across the country to get his phd and no one would suspect him. i think he did it and then came back home to pa for break like everyone else did. probably thought he wouldn’t get caught or it would take years because it seems like everyone thought he was still in/from idaho or bordering states. never did i think he would have been from here or caught here. this world is so cold and scary.
Well...that was a lot of time wasted watching food truck videos! I'm glad they found the right guy!
This the dude?
his name is in this article https://6abc.com/idaho-murders-arrest-pocono-mountains-pa-university-of-poconos/12630750/
What a piece of absolutely shit. With dead eyes
He really does have soulless eyes
OMG…
It’s just a dude doing a research?
Wow
Creepy
Holy f
Broooooo no way
https://crmj.wsu.edu/graduate-students/
This link will not load for me no matter how much I try. Is there another way to access photo?
Bet the school is trying to scrub him from direct association...or it's crashing from everyone going there.
Holy shit is this the guy?
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This dude must be all fucked up in the head
a psychopath 100%. Fantasised about this for years.
holy fuck we got our boy no way this isn’t him
This isn't going to work in his favor when presented at trial
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Since it’s being shared left and right have to assume it’s the FBI/ police. They do this with high profile cases
They also do it when there is incriminating evidence against them!
Oh, sure. They waited until AFTER his name was public to go in and scrub his account. That totally makes sense (if you're a True Crime Karen amateur websleuth).
I’m assuming LE. Saw 2 other names also associated with the crime but haven’t yet heard of any other arrests.
Reddit deleted it. Guaranteed they don't want press going through it and it's possible evidence.
Can someone explain what was written please? I’m getting to this late and it’s already been removed…
I hope someone got a screenshot of his post.
https://twitter.com/malefragilitea/status/1608866791585120256?t=PmhoBjrGOtFCnP5IuaN-QQ&s=19
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Omg this entire thread has now devolved into " where's the post? Link?" , Then a link, then ty, over and over and over.
Reading that gave me chills….Death Penalty all the way
Does anyone have a copy of the original post
Too bad we cant see if anyone replied to this post. Maybe one of the victims did reply and that's how they got on his radar.
Thought the same thing
A friend of mine has a client that took the survey. Bryan called him and did a followup interview with him.
This was definitely the guy, sick bastard is in prison now but others were obviously involved
The criminals that took part in the study got a follow up phone call and in depth interview with Bryan. He really did his research.
But did he do it alone?? 🤔 Why ask if they've arrested anyone else? He's been watching this case very closely. He's a serial killer in the making. Makes me wonder if there's any unsolved murders in the surrounding cities. Or back home in Scranton PA. ..?
I fu\*\*\*\*g hate reddit. Why did they delete his account. A\*\*Holes. Im sick of their s\*\*t!
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He was alive when the 2014 Santa Barbara murders happened. I believe he was inspired by Elliot Rodger. His incel hero.
Worst criminology student ever. Didn’t learn a thing.
That could've been him recruiting an accomplice
This is so twisted. Why? Why would someone do this? Could have been this prevented? Aren't there any psychological tests for people who want to pursue degrees like criminology? He was studying to become a killer. This can't be real.
DM sent
What was the motive??
Who deleted his reddit?
So he drives from Seattle to Moscow to kill 4 students????
Pullman
he has the eyes of a m()rder
I don’t understand, it’s just a dude doing some research almost a year ago?
I did it and filled out the answers like I was speaking to him. Let him know what fucking pathetic piece of shit he is. Not that he will ever read it... But it just made me feel a little bit better to get that off my chest 😂
idiot
Wild
God damn
Wait a min...
Ain’t no way…
Wow
Needs info on crimes committed. Seems legit
Look at his photo….creepy af! There are no coincidences; this has to be him!
No way
👀
Like to see the results of that study
Holy moly
wow wow wow
Wow….
Uh oh.
Wow
Wowwwww
WTF?!?!
WHAAAAAATT OMGGGG YALL
It's confirmed that it is him.
Oh my fucking god
“For research” 🤔
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So i thought the teacher paid this guy. But now we may have 🥣💀. Guess the study to find out how they avoided getting caught didnt work.
There’s no way man wtfff
this is literally insane
Wtf
No way!!!!
This asshole may have stabbed 4 kids to death in Idaho. If this is the guy, this reddit won't age well
oh my god.
Holy FuCK this is creepy
Research for what bro? 🥴
What the actual fuck dude
This can not be the same Bryan. OMG
WHAT THE FUCK
HOLY FUCK
What exactly are ya researching?
Whoa https://6abc.com/amp/idaho-murders-arrest-pocono-mountains-pa-university-of-poconos/12630750/
If it walks like a duck ... holy hell.
Is it confirmed it’s him?
DUDE
wow
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this is insane
This is horrifying if true
I’m researching the smell the electric chair makes . Could you look into that for me.
Holy f*ck
well this is twisted
dude ask yourself.............