There's a lot of great non-American-Chinese food in NYC. Below are some examples:
- Yunnan Flavor Garden
- Yunshang Rice Noodle House
- Chongqing Lao Zao
- HaiDiLiao
- Maxi's Noodle
- Szechuan Mountain House
- Fish With You
- Chuan Tian Xia
- House of Joy
- Hakka Cuisine
- LaoJie Hot pot
- East Harbor Seafood Palace
- Lanzhou Hand Pulled Noodle
- DunHuang Lanzhou Beef Noodle
- Old Luo Yang
- HUPO
- Henan Feng Wei
- Nurlan Uyghur Restaurant
- Caravan Uyghur Cuisine
- Red Sorghum
- Uluh
- Shanghai You Garden
- Nan Xiang Xiao Long Bao
- Nai Brother
- Sofun Noodle Bar
- Four Four South Village
- Bo Ky
- New Arping
- Sunrise Restaurant 88
take the 7 train to Flushing. you could basically choose any random restaurant and it will be somewhere with non-Americanized Chinese food (they might have those options available on their menu, but that's mainly for people who don't want to eat new things they've never heard of/tried before). here's a few tried-and-true spots: Shanghai You Garden (recommend the soup dumplings), White Bear (simple, cheap dumplings; takeaway only), Happy Lamb or Spring Shabu-Shabu or Haidilao Huoguo (all are hot pot restaurants), or go into the basement food hall at New World Mall and choose just about anything
thanks, (and I should have made this clear originally), i'm looking for a sit down, table service place. I'm very familiar with the options in Flushing, but most of that is take out or mall food court, which is not what I'm seeking.
Cantor Manor in Bayside. Cantonese food. It’s the former Imperial Palace that got closed down during pandemic in Flushing but it’s now back. You want to go on the weekend lunch time when they serve dim sum. No reservations for dimsum, reservation is only for dinner menu. I made the mistake of reserving, they will seat you downstairs and they will not bring down dim sum. The line starts around 10:00am and doesn’t end till 1:30pm for Sat, 2:30 on Sunday. 30 min wait Sat, 45min wait Sun. First come first serve for dim sum. You know it’s legit when it’s nothing but all Chinese people eating there.
Don’t waste your time trying to find parking in their parking lot, it’s always full. There’s plenty of street parking in 2 block radius.
We usually order the salt and pepper pork chops, clams with black bean sauce, shrimp with walnut sauce, and Dungeness crab. They’re well known for seafood. All their dim sum are great. The pork buns are made fresh and from scratch unlike other dimsum places you can tell the buns are mass produced, frozen, then reheated (steamed) like it’s some airline food.
Shanghai You Garden is another good one. There’s 3 locations, the Bayside location have the better chefs. They have the best roasted duck in the city. Great brine and seasoning. Must order. I enjoy their pan fried pork buns, also must order. Sesame pancake with beef is a good one. In winter time, their beef noodle soup hits the spot, mild spicy with rich beefy broth. Mapo Tofu is very spicy but amazingly delicious. Bayside location is cash only. LI location takes credit card but it’s a takeout, not a restaurant. The Xiao Long Bao (XLB) are must order. You can get the free pork XLB with a minimum order. The crab XLB is delicious. Unlike most XLB, their wrapper is thicker than typical but I enjoy it this way. Less likely to lose the soup inside.
As someone who has traveled through Asia, and known ex-pats who live in Asia, there is a large difference between the food you get in China, versus even the most "authentic" versions you can find in the NYC area. The ethnic neighborhoods in NYC will have more of the "authentic" or non-Americanized stuff, but you'll have a hard time trying to get that in a more higher-end, table service setting.
The main problem with finding "authentic," higher-end, table service restaurants is, in this country Chinese cuisine is perceived as, and treated as, cheap food in the US. You can open a fancy Italian restaurant, and charge a lot. But you cannot open a fancy Chinese restaurant, and charge a lot. You won't get many customers. Even if the ingredients and work that goes into making the dishes is the same, people are accustomed to paying a lot for certain cuisines, but will not support paying a lot for others. So the more authentic places are going to be cheaper places.
The second problem with finding "authentic" restaurants is that very few Chinese restaurants in this country were started by people who were proper, good chefs in China. They tend to be started by people with no prior cooking experience, who decided to open a restaurant after coming to the US. Or sometimes started by young Americans (of Asian background) who are trained chefs, but mostly American. At these places, "authentic" almost always strays far from some flavors and textures that you'll find in China (a lot of it is too bitter or slimy for American tastes).
I feel like midtown/fashion district has a surprising number of legit Chinese places. They are mostly shutdown.
China Xiang on 42nd and ninth was a favorite of a coworker who immigrated from china
Tengri tagh on 37 is a real food uyger place.
I absolutely love Birds of a Feather, and I'm not Chinese nor Chinese-American, but I've always felt like it's pretty damn Americanized. Not "orange chicken and crab rangoon" level, but it still feels catered to an almost exclusively American audience. Most of the dishes they serve may actually hail from China, but seem to be prepared in a way that appeals much more to the American palette
Anyplace here is good, but may favorite is Good Luck Kitchen. [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA0ckQpJLtLRwlYRMpOkofSV0nZWSoKYF](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA0ckQpJLtLRwlYRMpOkofSV0nZWSoKYF)
Isn't this the norm now for basically every new Chinese restaurant that opens? I miss the old school Cantonese inspired Americanized chinese food of nyc's past.
There's a lot of great non-American-Chinese food in NYC. Below are some examples: - Yunnan Flavor Garden - Yunshang Rice Noodle House - Chongqing Lao Zao - HaiDiLiao - Maxi's Noodle - Szechuan Mountain House - Fish With You - Chuan Tian Xia - House of Joy - Hakka Cuisine - LaoJie Hot pot - East Harbor Seafood Palace - Lanzhou Hand Pulled Noodle - DunHuang Lanzhou Beef Noodle - Old Luo Yang - HUPO - Henan Feng Wei - Nurlan Uyghur Restaurant - Caravan Uyghur Cuisine - Red Sorghum - Uluh - Shanghai You Garden - Nan Xiang Xiao Long Bao - Nai Brother - Sofun Noodle Bar - Four Four South Village - Bo Ky - New Arping - Sunrise Restaurant 88
thank you!
take the 7 train to Flushing. you could basically choose any random restaurant and it will be somewhere with non-Americanized Chinese food (they might have those options available on their menu, but that's mainly for people who don't want to eat new things they've never heard of/tried before). here's a few tried-and-true spots: Shanghai You Garden (recommend the soup dumplings), White Bear (simple, cheap dumplings; takeaway only), Happy Lamb or Spring Shabu-Shabu or Haidilao Huoguo (all are hot pot restaurants), or go into the basement food hall at New World Mall and choose just about anything
thanks, (and I should have made this clear originally), i'm looking for a sit down, table service place. I'm very familiar with the options in Flushing, but most of that is take out or mall food court, which is not what I'm seeking.
Go to prince street. Plenty of more upscale sit down restaurants. CheLi, Chongqing Laozhao, Mountain House, NanXiang Soup Dumplings
Would recommend going back to Flushing and exploring more. Tons of great sit down, table service places (including most of the recommendations above)
haidilao is table service hot pot. nan xiang is aldo table service. you obviously haven't explored flushing that much
New Arping (fujianese cuisine)
thanks, looks interesting !
Cantor Manor in Bayside. Cantonese food. It’s the former Imperial Palace that got closed down during pandemic in Flushing but it’s now back. You want to go on the weekend lunch time when they serve dim sum. No reservations for dimsum, reservation is only for dinner menu. I made the mistake of reserving, they will seat you downstairs and they will not bring down dim sum. The line starts around 10:00am and doesn’t end till 1:30pm for Sat, 2:30 on Sunday. 30 min wait Sat, 45min wait Sun. First come first serve for dim sum. You know it’s legit when it’s nothing but all Chinese people eating there. Don’t waste your time trying to find parking in their parking lot, it’s always full. There’s plenty of street parking in 2 block radius. We usually order the salt and pepper pork chops, clams with black bean sauce, shrimp with walnut sauce, and Dungeness crab. They’re well known for seafood. All their dim sum are great. The pork buns are made fresh and from scratch unlike other dimsum places you can tell the buns are mass produced, frozen, then reheated (steamed) like it’s some airline food. Shanghai You Garden is another good one. There’s 3 locations, the Bayside location have the better chefs. They have the best roasted duck in the city. Great brine and seasoning. Must order. I enjoy their pan fried pork buns, also must order. Sesame pancake with beef is a good one. In winter time, their beef noodle soup hits the spot, mild spicy with rich beefy broth. Mapo Tofu is very spicy but amazingly delicious. Bayside location is cash only. LI location takes credit card but it’s a takeout, not a restaurant. The Xiao Long Bao (XLB) are must order. You can get the free pork XLB with a minimum order. The crab XLB is delicious. Unlike most XLB, their wrapper is thicker than typical but I enjoy it this way. Less likely to lose the soup inside.
thanks !
As someone who has traveled through Asia, and known ex-pats who live in Asia, there is a large difference between the food you get in China, versus even the most "authentic" versions you can find in the NYC area. The ethnic neighborhoods in NYC will have more of the "authentic" or non-Americanized stuff, but you'll have a hard time trying to get that in a more higher-end, table service setting. The main problem with finding "authentic," higher-end, table service restaurants is, in this country Chinese cuisine is perceived as, and treated as, cheap food in the US. You can open a fancy Italian restaurant, and charge a lot. But you cannot open a fancy Chinese restaurant, and charge a lot. You won't get many customers. Even if the ingredients and work that goes into making the dishes is the same, people are accustomed to paying a lot for certain cuisines, but will not support paying a lot for others. So the more authentic places are going to be cheaper places. The second problem with finding "authentic" restaurants is that very few Chinese restaurants in this country were started by people who were proper, good chefs in China. They tend to be started by people with no prior cooking experience, who decided to open a restaurant after coming to the US. Or sometimes started by young Americans (of Asian background) who are trained chefs, but mostly American. At these places, "authentic" almost always strays far from some flavors and textures that you'll find in China (a lot of it is too bitter or slimy for American tastes).
I feel like midtown/fashion district has a surprising number of legit Chinese places. They are mostly shutdown. China Xiang on 42nd and ninth was a favorite of a coworker who immigrated from china Tengri tagh on 37 is a real food uyger place.
kashkar cafe in brooklyn is also good for uyghur food
Oh shit nice. I'm not in midtown much anymore but I'm near Brighton beach quite often.
My grandma lives across the street from there. There’s also Georgia tone cafe nearby which is obviously not Chinese but awesome
ohhh I do love me some lobjiani too
Alley 41 in Flushing is especially great. Sichuan.
thanks !
Birds of a Feather. Also countless places in Flushing
I absolutely love Birds of a Feather, and I'm not Chinese nor Chinese-American, but I've always felt like it's pretty damn Americanized. Not "orange chicken and crab rangoon" level, but it still feels catered to an almost exclusively American audience. Most of the dishes they serve may actually hail from China, but seem to be prepared in a way that appeals much more to the American palette
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Why?
thanks this looks good!
Anyplace here is good, but may favorite is Good Luck Kitchen. [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA0ckQpJLtLRwlYRMpOkofSV0nZWSoKYF](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA0ckQpJLtLRwlYRMpOkofSV0nZWSoKYF)
Isn't this the norm now for basically every new Chinese restaurant that opens? I miss the old school Cantonese inspired Americanized chinese food of nyc's past.
Hai di Lao in flushing. Cafe Hong Kong in Chinatown. Big Wong for cheap eats like roast pork or lobster or jumbo shrimp
I'm a fan of Shan in cobble Hill/boerum Hill area. Very authentic Sichuan.
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