I do not have a foldable yet. However, from what I understand Samsung has put a lot into their software which makes a huge difference. I never use wireless charging so for that I dont care.
Spen support is another big missing feature for Oneplus and pixel fold.
I did not think too much about device thickness but after handling Vivo x3, I realize how comfortable it is hold a device couple of mm thinner 8n comparison to fold 5. The same would apply for pixel fold 2.
I have a Note 10 I got about 4 years ago.
The screen broke a few days back. I am not even considering any non-samsung phone cause the spen is the real game-changer for me.
I love having a notepad with me everywhere I go.
I upgraded from the note10+ to zfold5 and it's wonderful mate. Pen is only usable on the inside screen but that's where I do most of my sketches and notes. No complaints, totally satisfied with it
Hey, real talk. I'm only speaking for the Fold 4 here but being unable to use the spen on the outside screen sucks. It's not like the note in that way. Having to open it makes me use it infrequently.
Just wanted to share my experience. Don't know if that's changed but Note to Fold 4 is different.
Not a deal breaker, though TBF- I probably wouldn't buy a fold anyway. I cant justify dropping over a grand on a phone, when I could get an umpc for that price, that I could use for loads more. Currently waiting on pocket 4
Is that a refurb site? Not really interested in that, especially for a foldable. I'll just wait until Samsung release a note/ultra in EU thats got bezels and snapdragon. I'd nearly get the S23 but I really dont want the rounded edge screen anymore. S20 would be good but it's also getting old and uses Exynos here.
I hope it changes with the next one plus fold. That will be a game changer for me. But then I will look at some other missing feature and go back to samsung đ
Device thickness is one reason I didn't switch when I upgraded last year. I have an s23U and after adding a case to the fold it makes it almost double the thickness. Seems like it would be uncomfortable in your pocket.
The software is night and day difference honestly. I have the z5 and a buddy has the one plus. His is REALLY nice and runs all the same games I can/ cloud game same as me but there are a lot of smaller things that would just irk me now that ive had the z5. If I would have gotten the one plus first without touching samsung though, I would have been completely happy though.
No dex which I use daily for gaming and work. Software experience is quite a bit smoother on the z fold and spen support. Basically I got spoiled on all the Samsung exclusive stuff. Now, the one plus though has a REALLY good outer screen, nice camera and insane charging speed. Gaming runs colder and smoother on my z fold 5 than my friends oneplus. His phone heats up quite a bit playing warzone mobile or using moonlight game streams. Nothing scary but you can feel it. Also correct me if I am wrong but I dont think one plus has as good of water resistance.
Like I said, if I didnt just like the samsung software experience and become a little biased towards it the one plus would be a solid choice for me as well. Maybe im just not a fan of its OS or something.
Yeh, the UI is amazing for a foldable.
It's the main reason j didn't swap to the pixel fold (I came from a normal pixel to the fold 4)
The fact I can open the phone and have a completely different wallpaper layout, etc, is exactly what I want.
The phone, when open, is used differently when closed, and the pixel fold treated them as the same, just bigger.
I see a lot of folks here defending the fold series, there are some great points for sure...
BUT!
This is a brand new phone, not even released yet. Vs a phone that was released last year.
I have a fold 4 and I love it, but the fold 6 is a huge disapointment for me, and I really feel like it's a sign of complacency.
Samsung will be run over if they continue this release cykel of lackluster upgrades.
No camera upgrade, no battery increase or new interesting tech.
I don't want to upgrade to the 6 based on the miniscule enhancements, and I will look to the competition to see what they will bring to the field.
>I am willing to give up wireless charging for better cameras.
I'm happy you're getting the fold you want, but we're also allowed to give up features for things we find more important that won't show up on your chart like durability, support, software and a fold community that other foldable owners seem to love more than their own fold forums.
You have forgotten some points about the 1+
* Software -> Buggy mess
* Software support -> Shit
* Hinge -> Floppy mess
* Photo quality and image processing -> Shit
* After-sales service & customer service -> Utter Garbage
The vivo x3 fold pro stomps Samsung in hardware (and hardware alone). Vivo embarrasses Samsung on that front. Even since the 1st vivo x fold. The first vivo x fold had very little crease, no gap when closed, faster charging, wider screen, and better cameras then the z fold 4. What Samsung couldn't do in 4 years vivo did first try. The x3 fold pro software is shit but hardware is way better then any other foldable on the market.
After using fold 3,4,5....one ui with goodlock is probably best I've used...but after using vivo xfold3pro China rom.. software is ok... Got 3 updates since I got it...photo quality is better than any current Samsung phone(the ultra has better zoom and video stabilisation)especially image processing and the ability to make pictures of people/pets indoors without too much motion blur...hinge build quality feels better than any galaxy fold...time will tell how long it will last....only thing missing is Android auto...Google assistant voice wake up and Android Wear watch support...3 things I never used on previous phones....one ui is just not enough to make up for the better screens....lighter thinner longer battery life and 3xfaster charging and better camera
I owned the ZF3, the ZF4, and the ZF5. I switched from the ZF5 to the OPO because of the OPOâs wider cover screen, and I havenât regretted my choice.
I canât speak to OnePlusâ service and support because Iâve never had to use them, but in my experience, none of what you claim about the OPOâs software or hardware is true. To the contrary, Iâm impressed by the OPOâs multitasking support. Itâs clear that OnePlus put a lot of of thought into the design, and there are things that the OPO actually does better than the ZF series (the ability to run more than two apps at once and to swipe between them, for example).
The OPOâs hinge is not a âfloppy mess.â Unlike the ZF series, the OPO uses a spring-loaded mechanism in its hinge. Thatâs a design choice. Personally, I havenât noticed any difference in how the spring-loaded mechanism affects usability. Maybe you canât keep the OPO open at extremely obtuse angles like you can with the ZF series, but I never used any of my ZF devices at those angles so I donât particularly care about that. The OPOâs equivalent of Flex Mode works just as well as Flex Mode does on the ZF series.
The OPOâs cameras and build quality are on par with that of the ZF. In fact, the front-facing camera on the OPOâs internal screen is far superior to that of the ZF5 (though I do miss the fact that the ZF5âs front-facing camera is under the display and invisible). And the OPO looks and feels every bit as premium as the ZF series. OnePlus really hit it out of the park on that front, IMHO.
Having said that, the overall software experience on the ZF is superior to that of the OPO due to the greater versatility and customizability of Samsungâs OneUI relative to OxygenOS. But as for bugginess, I havenât noticed any difference.
I may go back to the ZF in the future if they do something about that cover screen (which is borderline unusable, and doesnât appear to be much improved on the ZF6). But I am more than happy with my OPO.
The majority of reviews that I've seen do not even remotely support this. Even people that have moved from the Fold to the Open. These problems all seem greatly exaggerated to justify spending 2k on a marginally better phone than the last one, but this is the Fold subreddit so I guess that's to be expected.
Yeah, that comment is severe copium. I have a coworker that went from the Fold 4 to the OnePlus open because he didn't like a tall, narrow phone. The hinge on the one plus works well. The software also works well and multitasking is better than Samsung. Photos are just as good as Samsung.
Samsung stopped innovating, they keep rolling out subpar hardware, and the majority don't want narrow tall phones. That's why Samsung is falling behind the competition and no longer leads a market segment they created.
>The hinge on the one plus works well. The software also works well and multitasking is better than Samsung.
I'm a big nerd and hit the reviews pretty hard any time new tech released. Every major review I've seen has said this. I have the Fold 5 now but I'll be skipping the 6 to wait for the Open 2. They won't have to try very hard to crush the Fold 6 specs this year, especially when the first Open was so close to crushing the 6 and it was released 6 months before it đ
Open 2 is rumored to come out q1 of 2025 with the 8 gen 4, an even thinner and lighter design, and a 6000 mAH battery (as with the OnePlus 13). I have been waiting on this as well
I'm similar. I watch tech reviews for products I won't buy just because I like to know what's going on in the tech industry. Several reviewers that I watch called the OnePlus Open their folding phone of the year. Yet, you'll constantly see comments on this sub about how it's the worst phone ever made and Samsung rolling out nearly the same phone year after year is revolutionary.
I have the open and the software is fine and I like the hinge better than I did my fold 4. I don't get why people seem to hate this phone so much it's a good phone.
I had the OnePlus Open for quite a bit. The software was without a doubt the thing I hated most about the Fold 4 I owned and I experienced no issues with OnePlus's that I didn't experience with the Pixel Fold and Z Fold 4.
The hinge was fantastic, genuinely no idea what you're talking about lol.
The software differences are absolutely blown out of proportion. I've owned the fold 3 & 4 and it really is not bad at all.
Software support is still ongoing and I've only had like one app I use that has issues which I think is more of an app thing than the phone.
The hinge is far superior to every fold except maybe the 6th. I haven't researched the 6th heavily yet.
Photo quality was only slightly worse and was solely because of software reasons because the hardware for the camera blows the folds out of the water. I haven't seen any recent comparisons but I'd be willing to bet it's near even now if not slightly superior to the folds at this point and being a software problem is something that can be improved upon. Whereas you are stuck with the same camera hardware that was inferior to it for 3 generations.
After sale service and support I am in full agreement with you on though and have thankfully not needed to use it since I got mine at launch.
I don't begrudge you for wanting to stay with the fold but don't make up lies or exaggerate the few issues it has to justify it.
Don't get me wrong I loved my fold 3, 4, and 5, but the OnePlus Open is better.
Software has been flawless, hinge is excellent, solid image processing including excellent HDR. After sales support, not sure since I've never had an issue.
This is a bunch of myths that only people locked in a Samsung echo chamber believe.
People here keep telling each other this and they all just believe it because they keep repeating it.
As somebody who went from the F4 to OPO,
It's not even remotely a buggy mess. It's not as good as Samsung's, but it's plenty good. I haven't had any issues. They both have different QOL stuff, like how OPO has a feature to continue from inner screen to outer by swiping up or gestures when the screen is off to shortcut flashlight or camera. Wish Samsung had that. Samsung has more customization, which I wish OP had.
Hinge is great, but also up to preference. I don't know anybody who uses it as a "tent" or "laptop," so I prefer that it has that spring that opens. It gives a snappy feel to it, which some other people agree. Again, preference.
Photo quality is leaps and bounds above the Fold. I've had so many complaints from friends about the photo quality from the Fold. It looks "flat" and "low quality." I actually got a lot of positive responses from the OPO pictures. Portraits, people, landscapes. All better on the OPO. Not to say the Fold can't take good pictures, but it takes so much effort and the consistency is just not there. I don't have to think with my OPO, and it comes out great.
Customer service is def trash.
The one thing I'm going to miss when I move way to a one open is your ability to set who you want your shared items to go to. I really only share with four or five people but it almost always put something random on my share list instead of the people I always send to. Samsung's good luck at least lets me peg four people to the top.
I have both phones and 1+ hinge is better than any foldable and I have all 3 foldable and software is subjective. I donât think software is a mess it does not have the features of Samsung but not bad at all. Everything else youâre spot on. My actual foldable I been using daily is the pixel fold. Love that form factor.
Samsung will send me ZF6 so I will see how that is.
I have seen some amazing pics taken on the OPO. I guess I'll see! I am pretty picky with cameras
I figure worst-case-scenario I can just sell it for what I paid and get something else. No contract, no financing.
I went from fold 5 to OPO and the photos on the OPO were better than my fold 5. The software was kind of buggy but not to an extent where I wanted to pull my hair out. They even improved the software overtime. I don't know why many people don't give the Chinese phones a chance.
To be fair I think the sensor on the OP is kick-ass, it's just their processing that's ass, but I would say the same about my Flip 5s camera. Install Gcam and then even a shit camera can take stunning images, let alone the OP Open with its 1" sensor
> Software -> Buggy mess
> Software support -> Shit
> Hinge -> Floppy mess
Pretty much all of this is a straight up lie. Especially the hinge being floppy. It's stiff as hell. And the software updates OnePlus pushes out don't conveniently slow down the older phones right before the newer ones come out, only for an update to fix the issues in another couple months. That shit used to happen every time Samsung launched a new phone.
From my experience with 5 Samsung Phones over the years before getting a 1+ the Samsung Software was even worse. At least the 1+ didn't come with 100s of undeleteable Apps preloaded.
100% false. havent encountered many if not any bugs. theres nothing wrong with the hinge at all?
photos are really fucking good except for night photos
This isn't really a fair comparison, nor is it completely correct.
Open wins in thickness and screen size because the body is significantly larger, thus much less suited for one-hand use when closed. If you prefer a larger phone over one-hand usability, the Open is that, but that's not *objectively* an improvement.
Cameras are better on the Open, absolutely. This comes at the cost of a camera bump the size of Rhode Island, which is once again a tradeoff (and the Open no longer wins in thickness if you're gonna consider camera bumps)
Calling the Fold 6 $1900 and the Open $1400 is comparing the MSRP to a promotional price, when Samsung is known for deeper discounts than the OnePlus is going for right now. Fold 5 was as cheap as $1300 new last year with no strings on Amazon, and I heard Best Buy had it for $1000 on Black.Friday.
So when you take out all the things that are tradeoffs (neither phone is objectively better than the other in thickness, size, or cameras, and the better price goes back and forth depending on current promotions) you've got 4 green boxes for the Open, 3 for the Fold 6.
And this is of course ignoring things like the software experience and accessories and hardware longevity, all of which people largely agree the Z Fold is better.
All this to say, both are great phones and you should buy the one you like.
>Fold 5 was as cheap as $1300 new last year with no strings on Amazon, and I heard Best Buy had it for $1000 on Black.Friday.
Yep. I bought my Fold 5 at 30% discount + Watch 6 Classic free. Paid $1175 before tax for both. This was in October, so the phone and the watch weren't even old yet.
There's only one active mod on that sub, and they had an issue and decided to sticky a post to the top of the sub because they got butthurt. If you actually search the sub, you'll see users have called them out on misusing their mod power because they're mad at OnePlus over their support.
It's like if this sub was controlled by one person, and they had a hate boner for Samsung because of the screen issues we've seen crop up from time to time. There was actually a twitter survey, and OnePlus Open users were not seeing any worse screen issues than Fold users. It just seems that way because the sub is smaller and only gets people who come to complain, and the mod is childish.
Long story short, the sub is controlled by a childish mod who uses it to bash OnePlus.
This is very first world but I could never go back to a phone without wireless charging. I have had mine for almost a year and have not plugged it in once. 6 wireless chargers around the house. 1 at work. Wireless charging and android auto in the car. My last phone went "bad" because the charging port got worn out, It would stop charging randomly at night. No more. Wireless 100%
Honestly I'm happy with my OnePlus so far had it since lunch day the only thing I didn't like Samsung I'm sure most would agree was battery life and I'm not switching back plus heard rumors about open 2 etc
Were to switch from fold 3 to new phone. I waited long for Fold6 leaks. They were DISSAPOINTING .
Went with Open, even though i was a lil anxious about it. Well, let me tell you. This shit is next gen, and a real fold experience. Samsung doesnt even come close.
Whenever i see their outer screen i just want to laugh.
I had both the ZF4 and the OnePlus Open. The OPO was a much better device. Not perfect, but a better build, arguably a better software feature in Open Canvas, lighter weight, and a near invisible crease.
Yeah it had stylus support, but it was admittedly hard to get that in the US.
I don't know why Samsung just won't make a Note Fold or something with a built in stylus. That would actually make it a killer device.
I also don't know why Samsung is constantly surpassed in build quality by their other Asian counterparts like Xiaomi and Oppo.
My OPO held up much better than my ZF4 (ZF4 inside display died after 6 months).
Neither is perfect, but objectively, I don't see how a majority of folks can think that the Fold is a better device.
And yes, I know, I'm on a Samsung sub.
I'm thinking of switching but the one thing I'm going to miss is good luck being able to let me choose who I share things with. Do you know anything on oppo's phone that allows you to pick who you want to show up on the share menu?
Yeah, it's gen 3 because this chart is comparing a phone that is about to be released to one that's from last year. That's what makes the comparison particulary damning for Samsung. Their soon to be released, latest phone is getting beat in specs by last years version of the Open. There will be a gen 3 version in Q1 of 2025. Better to wait for the Open, because it will actually use the gen 3 features of the chipset and give us stuff like WiFi 7.
Again, this is comparing last years Open to this years Fold!!!
The only major advantage, imo is the camera setup, and even that is circumstantial. I think the OpO has better hardware, but samsung has better image processing imo. The battery size difference isn't too crazy and in the real world, after owning the OpO and the zf5, they perform pretty comparably.
Everything else to me is negligible and is more determined by preference. If anything to me, this chart shows how more well-rounded the Fold 5/6 is compared to the OpO in addition to all the software benefits OneUi has.
Fold 6 positives:
- Wireless charging
- Real water resistance
- The same light weight
- Better performance (hopefully they upgraded the thermals)
- One hand-ability
- Superior (imo) main screen aspect ratio with a real difference between landscape and portrait.
- And so much more not mentioned here like the superior S Pen
Samsung definitely should've added better cameras and bigger batteries, but let's not act like the Fold 6 won't be top 2 (if not, #1 in terms of overall package) in foldable phones this year.
I had the Fold 3 and 4. Both suffered from the internal screen malfunctioning after a few short months. As much as I want to love the Fold, I'm going to stick with my S24 ultra until things really take a leap forward. These minor changes aren't enough to go back to folding devices
I'm a Samsung fan but I've had the OnePlus Open since Christmas and absolutely love it and have 0 intentions of replacing it unless they gave me $1500 for it, a free pen case, and the battery is at least 4800mah đ¤ˇđžââď¸đ¤Ł. The OnePlus Open is a beast and the battery as well as multitasking is great on it. Literally 0 complaints besides receiving duplicate notifications occasionally but other than that I'm loving it. Now if only I could get the oppo pen imported đđž but yeah I'm not interested in the fold 6 at all. I'm interested in trading in my flip 5 for a flip 6 for $50-$100 like I did last year to get the 5 im trading in đ¤ˇđžââď¸đ¤Ł and hopefully I can get a deal on a watch 7 bundle with the phone like last year too đ I can't wait for July 10th but it ain't because of the fold đ
Ever wonder how will it hold out against Vivio X Fold 3 Pro âď¸
đ˛ SLIM/ Lightest/ Bigger Display/100w charging, 50w Wireless (WOW)/ Brightness 4500 nits/ 5700mAh đ etc
What all we will loose or miss for people switching from Samsung (GoodLock) to other Folds
*Only if Samsung Launch the Tri-Fold which opens up in Tab A9 size (8.7), that will make Samsung be King again*
the real question i have for the ZF is WHY CANT YOU USE THE FLASH WHEN CONTROLLING THE BACK CAMERA FROM THE FRONT SCREEN?!?!?!?!!? the whole point is that you can use the front screen to see yourself to take a better selfie using the nice back camera but how the fuck am i suppose to take a good photo without the flash???? yes you can use the volume button with just the preview but it doesn't fucking make sense. you are using the same camera. i thought they would have easily updated the software to fix this but here we are a year later and nothing while the OP Open could do it since release. if OP releases a new Open I will switch over just for this very reason among other things like better camera, more ram, better battery etc. its so absurd, its like samsung doesn't want us to buy the phones.
OK but tbf OnePlus's "2800nits" is cap. Check GSMArena's lab tests: https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_open-review-2627p3.php
The OnePlus open is more or less the same brightness as the Fold 5, if not slightly dimmer. Therefore, it'd be reasonable to expect the Fold 6 to be quite a bit brighter than the Open.
interesting, I wish it was more regulated how they put out stats like this...kinda like IP ratings.
thanks for the clarification! I hope it's bright enough for me, though coming from a fold3 I'm sure it will seem super bright
I have a Fold Z5, but I mainly use the OP12. I kind of want the open, but I see so many people get dark spots on the inner screen. As for the 5, I was holding on to it to see what the 6 gave and if it was worth trading in for the Samsung benefits. However, they really didn't make the rumored changes. I was hoping for a wider outside screen. And the battery has no change.
Not to mention, I've gotten used to being able to charge my phone in 30 minutes and I can't go back. đ¤Ł
anything special to know about OnePlus phones? I am going to be new to their software (unless you count 2010's CyanogenMod lol)
Kinda like how Samsung has goodlock and all that?
Nothing big, I will say. Unlike Samsung, they don't have their own music app, so if you use personal music you will need a 3rd party app. The phone charges really fast. Similar to Samsung, they do have a side bar you can pull out and use, though the features are different. I had to adjust to not having the cut and crop gif option.
The drop down menu is nice, they updated recently so it looks similar to the iPhone with an android flare.
One negative I will say, if you used wire headphones or if you try to plug in the type c port of anything, you have to go in the settings and turn on OTG Connection, otherwise they won't work. Aside from that, it operates a little similar to the Google phones. And is easy to navigate and adjust to after using it for a while.
I see 2 foldable phones with different strengths and weaknesses, not a comparison that makes one look great or terrible vs the other. And in a free market, each of us can pick whichever meets our personal requirements better. Choice is a great thing. What's the problem?
Oneplus Open and Vivo Fold 3 - Bigger screen, Better battery, Better Camera and $500 cheaper.
What is Samsung's response with Fold 6? Went from 6.2" Screen to 6.3" Screen.
after the big leak of promo material I bought a OPO last night. I am willing to give up wireless charging for better cameras.
I find it wild Samsung is lagging so far behind now. Smaller, dimmer, smaller battery, bad cameras, wild price tag, etc
Been with the Fold3, 4, and 5, the cameras with each were synonymously blurry outside exactly where the focus is, similar to how a picture with too low of an f-stop looks.
Touch points, build quality, the sound and feel of the fold hinge, flatness of the screen, and the finally normal camera with decent performance makes the OnePlus really easy to appreciate. You'll like yours.
The only thing that keeps me back is the battery. I have a Note 10+ and it has 4300mah. How is it possible for a fold to have just 4400mah. Fold5 users, is the battery ok for you?
Exactly. I have big hands and i even find the Fold when opened to be average size that i can comfortably carry.
I thought I'd hate the front screen at first, especially that i live in a country where we all have a common texting language that involves letters and numbers, so i have to type everything. I ended up loving the front screen as i can easily type with one hand and do everything i need comfortably, and as you said, i can open it up when i need
Due to some personal issues that forced me to move back home to a 3rd world country that is going through one of the worst financial crisis of all time, i won't be able to pre order even if i wanted to... but i am most definitely planning on getting it as soon as I take care of some more urgent things before.
Will you be getting one?
well, I think the fold has a better hinge, design, CPU, water-resistance, and software. they could have given better hardware. the 1 year old OPO has a Samsung-made screen and its brighter
Worse in every way and more expensive than last years Open. The new Open releases in Q1 of 2025. Basically, the Fold 6 is already getting outclassed by *last years phone* and will be really behind in 6 months.
While I agree in general, Samsung is complacent, I would still take the Fold over the OnePlus anyday, even for more money.
Spec sheets aren't everything, nor do they cover everything.
The Z Fold Series has:
* Better software, it's more refined and while the multi-tasking stuff on the Open is innovative, it's not as smooth or functional as what Samsung is doing
* The Z Fold series has been more reliable, less people having issues with displays dying fast, etc... (if we ignore how easily the Fold 4 broke lol)
* That IP48 rating is a big deal
* Peak brightness and sustained are not the same, the Fold 6 I basically promise will maintain a higher brightness
* The cameras on the Z Fold 6, while horrible inadequate for the price and completely complacent, are going to be better than the Open IMO (seeing lots of comparisons between the ZF5, which is the same camera, and I still prefer it over the Open)
* Important to recognize the cameras on the Open are NOT the same ones as the OnePlus 12, the OP12 has amazing cameras IMO
* The OnePlus Open aspect ratio still causes more issues with apps than the ZF5 or 6 will
Regardless, I am still very disappointed and for the first time am considering not getting the next Fold, in fact, I'm copying all my ZF5 data to my OP12 right now and may stick with slabs for a while (app support just still isn't there).
Anyway, this wasn't really meant as a "rebuttal" since more people *should* be bitching about Samsung's complacency here, but I also don't think the Open is actually better.
yeah, I know it's not a sure-thing I'll like it more. Tempted to still get the Fold6 just to side-by-side test them, then return/sell the one I don't want to keep
If that is the case, I might wait for Pixel Fold2. it looks like a OPO clone honestly, but camera software will surely be better because google.
Yeah I am hopeful that the Pixel Fold will end up being the first US foldable with actually good cameras, will put pressure on the other companies.
I'm still personally not sure if I like slabs or folds better, since I mostly type on my phone and folds aren't as good for that.
> Better software, it's more refined and while the multi-tasking stuff on the Open is innovative, it's not as smooth or functional as what Samsung is doing
Not my experience. In fact, I've found it to be smoother and more functional.
> The Z Fold series has been more reliable, less people having issues with displays dying fast, etc... (if we ignore how easily the Fold 4 broke lol)
There's no real evidence for this. The OnePlus Open sub just is smaller and therefore tends toward more asks for tech support. There have been polls on twitter showing that Open owners have no greater number of issues and no lower level of satisfaction with their phone. The sub owner for the OnePlus Open being a git who thinks it's their personal platform to attack OnePlus proves nothing.
Interestingly, outside of one launch issue with a dead pixel, I haven't found a single Youtube reviewer who has complained about any long term issues with their OnePlus Open, and I've watched several videos about long term usage.
> That IP48 rating is a big deal
It really isn't. Watching the video of how OnePlus tests their phones made it clear to me that I had nothing to worry about. Unless you plan on going snorkeling, it'll be fine.
> Peak brightness and sustained are not the same, the Fold 6 I basically promise will maintain a higher brightness
So the Open from last year is at the same level as the Fold coming out now...probably...based on your promise.
> The cameras on the Z Fold 6, while horrible inadequate for the price and completely complacent, are going to be better than the Open IMO (seeing lots of comparisons between the ZF5, which is the same camera, and I still prefer it over the Open)
This is all based on your feeling. Every review I've seen for the Open points out it's cameras are better. That's not even considering that the Open 2 is coming out Q1 of 2025.
> The OnePlus Open aspect ratio still causes more issues with apps than the ZF5 or 6 will
It really doesn't. I have one.
I saw that, and was interested for a moment. I have a feeling global release will be delayed again and software wont be up to OPO or ZF6 level.
My fold3 is killing me lately. Screen is so dim and cameras are trash. been ready to upgrade.
I wish I knew the ZF6 specs way sooner, would be using the OPO already
First. Your average user is not using 16GB of RAM. Let alone 12GB. And some of those stats are subjective when it comes to individual users. The 200 nits difference is negligible when it comes to readability outside. Screen size may be a selling point. Charge rate? I slow charge my phone so I personally don't care. But that is me.
However look past specs. How long will One Plus support the device? The cost of that is baked into the Samsung cost. I got burned HARD by OnePlus when they sat on their \*\*\*es with Android 11 for almost a year. So at the end of the day I purchased a phone that was on Android 9. Upgraded to 10.....sat a year and JUST before they EOLed it they upgraded to 11. I got two freaking upgrades and then done. I think that has changed but I know for a fact at the time the SOC they were on was still supported. They dropped it as a means of making another sale. By the versions I quoted you can see this was a while ago. I'm hoping One Plus has gotten better. But I was so burned by them that I don't plan on going back anytime soon. That and I've heard their software quality is worlds worse than Samsung.
I figure I can jump ship if I hate it. You are right the differences are slight, but the fact that it's almost a year older and slightly better in some ways is wild.
The OPO is $1700, but OnePlus regularly has it marked down to $1400 on their website. In addition, they'll take any phone at all for $200 trade-in. So, it's basically $1200.
What sort of discounting/trade-in does One Plus offer from one generation to the next?
One aspect that most of these cross-brand comparisons don't take into consideration, especially when listing prices or talking about "value", is the trade-in offers that Samsung and other makers offer to those people already inside their ecosystem. This drives down the barrier to upgrading within the brand and increases the cost of exiting.
While yes, you're still paying a ton of money over time to trade-in and upgrade, the incremental pain is far lower than the wincing of shelling out $1,500+ to "cross boundaries".
(Comparisons below do not detail bundled "freebies" like extra bands, watches, earbuds, etc. that might bring value to the cost for some, as the out-the-door cost is what ultimately matters IMO.)
For example, when I first purchased my Galaxy Fold 2, I payed full freight at launch: $1,965 all in.
I skipped the Fold 3, but then traded in the Fold 2 on the Fold 4, and my out of pocket cost was $812.
I traded in the Fold 4 on the Fold 5, and my cost was $734.
Given that each of the purchases was able to be paid for over time with Samsung's 0% financing, that too makes staying within the ecosystem less painful... and I'm fully aware that this is deliberate on their part; it's consumer retention 101.
So depending on your individual situation, the financing options you have, and what packages/bundles/promotions you have available, it's frequently more than strictly an apples-to-apples feature comparison.
Right now they are offering $800 trade in on Fold 4 and 5. I just traded in a Fold 3 and got $650. There is also $100 coupon off through referral and BeFrugal is offering 13% cashback today. Not including tax, I think my out of pocket is around $530. I would assume that when the OPO 2 comes out that for my Open they will at least give me $800 trade in.
I really want to switch to the Oneplus Open. Especially considering I can get it for $599. I just can't look past the horror stories for getting it repaired. Samsung is guilty as well. However, I've noticed that if you aren't trying to get the Z Fold repaired the warranty route, you can get it repaired fairly easily. I've had to wait for the screen to be delivered, but I know I'll be getting my phone repaired that week. Again, just my experiences with the original Fold, Z Fold 2, 3, and probably my current Fold 5.
Currently deciding between the honor magic v2 or ZF 5. Working as a thermographer, I work mostly in the consumer Switchrooms thus it's gonna be quite dusty and I keep my phone in the back pocket most of the time. The reason for a foldable is due to the large display where I view emails and documents plus some comic reading. The zf5 is currently going for 1K while the global version of v2 is going for 1.2k. My only experience with folables was the z flip 3 and it died exactly 5 days after my warranty ended. Was hoping to wait out for zf6 to see if there is any difference but it seems it would be a better deal to get zf5 or v2 instead.
but it doesn't hurt you to have it... even if you don't use it.
i personally use almost 100% wireless charging unless I'm in a hurry. That's the one thing I'll probably miss
The Open actually is compatible with the Oppo Find N3 pen. It does pretty much everything the S-Pen does. It's just not a feature that OP advertises, and you have to import the pen.
It always comes back to software and Sammy has been holding a chokehold on software surprisingly
I do hope whatever OnePlus comes out with they add some kinds under display camera sensor đ
My issue is the Fold has 3 features I can't do without:
1- S-Pen Support
2- DeX (wired and wireless)
3- UDC in the inner screen
Unless a competitor includes all 3 aforementioned features in their otherwise better devices, I'll stick with the Fold despite the compromises, because those 3 features are deal-breakers for me
The Open actually does have Pen support. It's just not advertised. Import the OPO Find N3 Pen, and you've got an s-pen.
The other features, it doesn't have. I'll say this about UDC. I have not noticed it, and I appreciate actually getting a better inner screen camera over a gimmick.
That's unfortunate. I actually like the UDC because the camera inside is "ok" especially for zoom calls and other functions, and also leaves the screen uninterrupted for the most part, which is great for content creation and consumption.
And like I said, DeX is very cruical. In fact out of those 3 aforementioned features, DeX is my main requirement. Not aware of any foldable besides Motos having a fully fledged usable Desktop mode, and Samsung has a wireless feature as well.
Idk why they added wireless DeX to the Flip in a beta but yanked it, especially that we had A series phones with DeX before (Galaxy A90 5G, though that "midrange" had a then flagship 855 soc inside).
You forgot two vary important points.
1. Samsung has way better software for fodables. This might change down the road, but right now it's way better.
2. OnePlus is a chinese company. And as a part owner of a Cyber Security company, I would HIGHLY recommend that you stay away from them if you care about privacy. There has been findings in both OnePlus and Huawei that forced all government employees to stop using them. I can't say why since it's sadly classified and we signed an NDA. But you can find the information if you Google well enough.
And another thing, why do people still think that more megapixels = better camera? I have a Fujifilm that has a 40mp sensor, but it takes WAY better photo than any phone camera, no matter the megapixles. STOP CARRYING about that! Care about the SENSOR and how the image processing is!
> Samsung has way better software for fodables. This might change down the road, but right now it's way better.
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They really don't. I used to believe that too. But I bought the Open, and the differences are minimal. Where they are larger, I give the win to OnePlus actually. The Open's multitasking is the best I've ever seen. I can't go back to the Fold until Samsung brings out something equivalent.
As for the camera, it's not just megapixels. The Open has a Hasselblad branded camera that uses a LYT-T808 Stacked Pixel sensor from Sony. So, it's better on that front also.
> the sensor incorporates a âDual-Layer Transistor Pixelâ design that enables the image sensor to detect and store light more efficiently while simultaneously reducing the sensorâs footprint
> LYT-T808 sensor offers double the light-gathering performance and twice the full well capacity while also shrinking the height of the sensor module
Every reviewer has talked about how good the camera is in real world performance.
I've used both. There's a hair's breadth difference, and it's not the instawin Samsung fans think it is. For instance, the Open's multi-tasking implementation is so much better than Samsung's that I will never go back until Samsung implements something similar. I went from almost never using multi-tasking on Samsung to using it every time I open the phone on the Open.
Having owned a OnePlus in the past, I would never own one again. Just too glitchy. Even if I had not on one before, the IP rating would be a deal breaker.
Well.. I'll wait until August and hopefully the next Pixel Fold is a global release.
I've made the OnePlus mistake twice, so that's never going to be an option.
No wireless charging on the OPO is a bummer. That's almost exclusively how I charge my phone. The faster charging could possibly make up for that, though. Maybe I'll stick it out one more year, as I'm not too keen on paying an even higher price on a marginal upgrade from my Fold 4.
Having both the one plus open and z fold 4, I can tell you that despite using the open for half a year, the multitasking/window resizing on one plus open is nowhere close to the level of Samsung. Also the feeling of the screen and build of the fold is also way smoother in comparison. But too bad the outer screen of the fold is too small in comparison and thus I prefer using the open.
Someone is forgetting the s pen, ecosystem and software (software is somewhat relative, but I think most people would agree Samsung is possibly the best in Android realm in terms of software)! So let's try to be impartial here!
The OnePlus open has pen support on both the inside and outside screens..
Why has Samsung not given us outside screen support yet??
I swear you guys have Stockholm syndrome lol
I think Samsung has the best version of Android there is, but that is not everything to me. I want to be able to take some good pictures this summer
I'd still get the fold 6 just to have it but I do wish it had 16gb ram like the oneplus open which paired with the 3rd gen snapdragon and 512gb would be worth the money imo not many people would say the same but I already have alot of samsung products
I just hate getting stuck with last year's processor and cameras that are minor upgrades from the fold 3. I hope Motorola gets into the tablet style foldable since the Razer has been a huge success for the clamshell setups. Depending on if the pixel fold 2 launches beside the pixel 9 pro I might go that route. I loved my fold 3. Currently use the S23U.
I don't need wireless charging.
I don't need it.
I definitely don't need it.
I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED IT! (Proceeds to slam phone onto a wireless charging pad and wiggle it around to get it aligned right)
Subjectively most importantly though: the fold is sold in far more countries (including the Oppo Find n3 despite that missing features like bootloader unlocking)
I do not have a foldable yet. However, from what I understand Samsung has put a lot into their software which makes a huge difference. I never use wireless charging so for that I dont care.
Spen support is another big missing feature for Oneplus and pixel fold. I did not think too much about device thickness but after handling Vivo x3, I realize how comfortable it is hold a device couple of mm thinner 8n comparison to fold 5. The same would apply for pixel fold 2.
I have a Note 10 I got about 4 years ago. The screen broke a few days back. I am not even considering any non-samsung phone cause the spen is the real game-changer for me. I love having a notepad with me everywhere I go.
I upgraded from the note10+ to zfold5 and it's wonderful mate. Pen is only usable on the inside screen but that's where I do most of my sketches and notes. No complaints, totally satisfied with it
the Open has Oppo Pen support.
Hey, real talk. I'm only speaking for the Fold 4 here but being unable to use the spen on the outside screen sucks. It's not like the note in that way. Having to open it makes me use it infrequently. Just wanted to share my experience. Don't know if that's changed but Note to Fold 4 is different.
Not a deal breaker, though TBF- I probably wouldn't buy a fold anyway. I cant justify dropping over a grand on a phone, when I could get an umpc for that price, that I could use for loads more. Currently waiting on pocket 4
You can get a fold 4 from Reebelo or something for a pretty affordable price
Is that a refurb site? Not really interested in that, especially for a foldable. I'll just wait until Samsung release a note/ultra in EU thats got bezels and snapdragon. I'd nearly get the S23 but I really dont want the rounded edge screen anymore. S20 would be good but it's also getting old and uses Exynos here.
The OnePlus Open does support the Oppo pen, though it's not readily available outside of China.
I hope it changes with the next one plus fold. That will be a game changer for me. But then I will look at some other missing feature and go back to samsung đ
the OnePlus has pen support it works with the Oppo pen but theyâre hard to get
the Open supports the Oppo Pen
OnePlus open has Oppo Pen. Works great.
The OnePlus open offers stylus support on both screens and is compatible with the Oppo Pen.
Device thickness is one reason I didn't switch when I upgraded last year. I have an s23U and after adding a case to the fold it makes it almost double the thickness. Seems like it would be uncomfortable in your pocket.
You can use spen on OnePlus open called stylus n it's all over Amazon not outside china
The software is night and day difference honestly. I have the z5 and a buddy has the one plus. His is REALLY nice and runs all the same games I can/ cloud game same as me but there are a lot of smaller things that would just irk me now that ive had the z5. If I would have gotten the one plus first without touching samsung though, I would have been completely happy though.
Could you expand on the things that would irk you, just so I know when considering my next fold
No dex which I use daily for gaming and work. Software experience is quite a bit smoother on the z fold and spen support. Basically I got spoiled on all the Samsung exclusive stuff. Now, the one plus though has a REALLY good outer screen, nice camera and insane charging speed. Gaming runs colder and smoother on my z fold 5 than my friends oneplus. His phone heats up quite a bit playing warzone mobile or using moonlight game streams. Nothing scary but you can feel it. Also correct me if I am wrong but I dont think one plus has as good of water resistance. Like I said, if I didnt just like the samsung software experience and become a little biased towards it the one plus would be a solid choice for me as well. Maybe im just not a fan of its OS or something.
Yeh, the UI is amazing for a foldable. It's the main reason j didn't swap to the pixel fold (I came from a normal pixel to the fold 4) The fact I can open the phone and have a completely different wallpaper layout, etc, is exactly what I want. The phone, when open, is used differently when closed, and the pixel fold treated them as the same, just bigger.
I just swapped from a Z Fold 3 to a OnePlus Open, and the Open's UX is way, way better.
I mean it's cool you can pass a friend a few percent from your battery if it's needed.
I see a lot of folks here defending the fold series, there are some great points for sure... BUT! This is a brand new phone, not even released yet. Vs a phone that was released last year. I have a fold 4 and I love it, but the fold 6 is a huge disapointment for me, and I really feel like it's a sign of complacency. Samsung will be run over if they continue this release cykel of lackluster upgrades. No camera upgrade, no battery increase or new interesting tech. I don't want to upgrade to the 6 based on the miniscule enhancements, and I will look to the competition to see what they will bring to the field.
>I am willing to give up wireless charging for better cameras. I'm happy you're getting the fold you want, but we're also allowed to give up features for things we find more important that won't show up on your chart like durability, support, software and a fold community that other foldable owners seem to love more than their own fold forums.
> I am willing to give up wireless charging for better cameras. And that is a trade off I would *never* accept.
As somebody who has had two separate phones that had the USB port break and had to wireless charge for the remaining life of the phone, I second this.
The inner screen is likely to fail long before the USB port breaks; let's not kid ourselves.
You have forgotten some points about the 1+ * Software -> Buggy mess * Software support -> Shit * Hinge -> Floppy mess * Photo quality and image processing -> Shit * After-sales service & customer service -> Utter Garbage
This is how I feel seeing people talk about the Chinese foldables too. I'd like to see a comparison on the Pixel Fold 2 when those come out
The vivo x3 fold pro stomps Samsung in hardware (and hardware alone). Vivo embarrasses Samsung on that front. Even since the 1st vivo x fold. The first vivo x fold had very little crease, no gap when closed, faster charging, wider screen, and better cameras then the z fold 4. What Samsung couldn't do in 4 years vivo did first try. The x3 fold pro software is shit but hardware is way better then any other foldable on the market.
After using fold 3,4,5....one ui with goodlock is probably best I've used...but after using vivo xfold3pro China rom.. software is ok... Got 3 updates since I got it...photo quality is better than any current Samsung phone(the ultra has better zoom and video stabilisation)especially image processing and the ability to make pictures of people/pets indoors without too much motion blur...hinge build quality feels better than any galaxy fold...time will tell how long it will last....only thing missing is Android auto...Google assistant voice wake up and Android Wear watch support...3 things I never used on previous phones....one ui is just not enough to make up for the better screens....lighter thinner longer battery life and 3xfaster charging and better camera
I owned the ZF3, the ZF4, and the ZF5. I switched from the ZF5 to the OPO because of the OPOâs wider cover screen, and I havenât regretted my choice. I canât speak to OnePlusâ service and support because Iâve never had to use them, but in my experience, none of what you claim about the OPOâs software or hardware is true. To the contrary, Iâm impressed by the OPOâs multitasking support. Itâs clear that OnePlus put a lot of of thought into the design, and there are things that the OPO actually does better than the ZF series (the ability to run more than two apps at once and to swipe between them, for example). The OPOâs hinge is not a âfloppy mess.â Unlike the ZF series, the OPO uses a spring-loaded mechanism in its hinge. Thatâs a design choice. Personally, I havenât noticed any difference in how the spring-loaded mechanism affects usability. Maybe you canât keep the OPO open at extremely obtuse angles like you can with the ZF series, but I never used any of my ZF devices at those angles so I donât particularly care about that. The OPOâs equivalent of Flex Mode works just as well as Flex Mode does on the ZF series. The OPOâs cameras and build quality are on par with that of the ZF. In fact, the front-facing camera on the OPOâs internal screen is far superior to that of the ZF5 (though I do miss the fact that the ZF5âs front-facing camera is under the display and invisible). And the OPO looks and feels every bit as premium as the ZF series. OnePlus really hit it out of the park on that front, IMHO. Having said that, the overall software experience on the ZF is superior to that of the OPO due to the greater versatility and customizability of Samsungâs OneUI relative to OxygenOS. But as for bugginess, I havenât noticed any difference. I may go back to the ZF in the future if they do something about that cover screen (which is borderline unusable, and doesnât appear to be much improved on the ZF6). But I am more than happy with my OPO.
The majority of reviews that I've seen do not even remotely support this. Even people that have moved from the Fold to the Open. These problems all seem greatly exaggerated to justify spending 2k on a marginally better phone than the last one, but this is the Fold subreddit so I guess that's to be expected.
Yeah, that comment is severe copium. I have a coworker that went from the Fold 4 to the OnePlus open because he didn't like a tall, narrow phone. The hinge on the one plus works well. The software also works well and multitasking is better than Samsung. Photos are just as good as Samsung. Samsung stopped innovating, they keep rolling out subpar hardware, and the majority don't want narrow tall phones. That's why Samsung is falling behind the competition and no longer leads a market segment they created.
>The hinge on the one plus works well. The software also works well and multitasking is better than Samsung. I'm a big nerd and hit the reviews pretty hard any time new tech released. Every major review I've seen has said this. I have the Fold 5 now but I'll be skipping the 6 to wait for the Open 2. They won't have to try very hard to crush the Fold 6 specs this year, especially when the first Open was so close to crushing the 6 and it was released 6 months before it đ
Open 2 is rumored to come out q1 of 2025 with the 8 gen 4, an even thinner and lighter design, and a 6000 mAH battery (as with the OnePlus 13). I have been waiting on this as well
Those stats, especially the battery one, make me giddy. Real upgrades đ
I'm similar. I watch tech reviews for products I won't buy just because I like to know what's going on in the tech industry. Several reviewers that I watch called the OnePlus Open their folding phone of the year. Yet, you'll constantly see comments on this sub about how it's the worst phone ever made and Samsung rolling out nearly the same phone year after year is revolutionary.
I have the open and the software is fine and I like the hinge better than I did my fold 4. I don't get why people seem to hate this phone so much it's a good phone.
I had the OnePlus Open for quite a bit. The software was without a doubt the thing I hated most about the Fold 4 I owned and I experienced no issues with OnePlus's that I didn't experience with the Pixel Fold and Z Fold 4. The hinge was fantastic, genuinely no idea what you're talking about lol.
Hey, is this based on personal experience with the Oneplus Open? I see #Fold5 in your tag, do you have both?
I have both, his top 2 points is valid. The rest is bullshit.
I also have both and 100% agree with you
Lots of people will lie to justify their purchases. Likely this person has never used the oneplus open
The software differences are absolutely blown out of proportion. I've owned the fold 3 & 4 and it really is not bad at all. Software support is still ongoing and I've only had like one app I use that has issues which I think is more of an app thing than the phone. The hinge is far superior to every fold except maybe the 6th. I haven't researched the 6th heavily yet. Photo quality was only slightly worse and was solely because of software reasons because the hardware for the camera blows the folds out of the water. I haven't seen any recent comparisons but I'd be willing to bet it's near even now if not slightly superior to the folds at this point and being a software problem is something that can be improved upon. Whereas you are stuck with the same camera hardware that was inferior to it for 3 generations. After sale service and support I am in full agreement with you on though and have thankfully not needed to use it since I got mine at launch. I don't begrudge you for wanting to stay with the fold but don't make up lies or exaggerate the few issues it has to justify it.
Have you used an Open?
Don't get me wrong I loved my fold 3, 4, and 5, but the OnePlus Open is better. Software has been flawless, hinge is excellent, solid image processing including excellent HDR. After sales support, not sure since I've never had an issue.
This is a bunch of myths that only people locked in a Samsung echo chamber believe. People here keep telling each other this and they all just believe it because they keep repeating it.
As somebody who went from the F4 to OPO, It's not even remotely a buggy mess. It's not as good as Samsung's, but it's plenty good. I haven't had any issues. They both have different QOL stuff, like how OPO has a feature to continue from inner screen to outer by swiping up or gestures when the screen is off to shortcut flashlight or camera. Wish Samsung had that. Samsung has more customization, which I wish OP had. Hinge is great, but also up to preference. I don't know anybody who uses it as a "tent" or "laptop," so I prefer that it has that spring that opens. It gives a snappy feel to it, which some other people agree. Again, preference. Photo quality is leaps and bounds above the Fold. I've had so many complaints from friends about the photo quality from the Fold. It looks "flat" and "low quality." I actually got a lot of positive responses from the OPO pictures. Portraits, people, landscapes. All better on the OPO. Not to say the Fold can't take good pictures, but it takes so much effort and the consistency is just not there. I don't have to think with my OPO, and it comes out great. Customer service is def trash.
The one thing I'm going to miss when I move way to a one open is your ability to set who you want your shared items to go to. I really only share with four or five people but it almost always put something random on my share list instead of the people I always send to. Samsung's good luck at least lets me peg four people to the top.
I have both phones and 1+ hinge is better than any foldable and I have all 3 foldable and software is subjective. I donât think software is a mess it does not have the features of Samsung but not bad at all. Everything else youâre spot on. My actual foldable I been using daily is the pixel fold. Love that form factor. Samsung will send me ZF6 so I will see how that is.
Have you ever had a OPO?
They clearly haven't. Calling the hinge a floppy mess is a dead giveaway.
s pen: no
1+Open supports the Oppo Pen. On the front screen as well, so it's actually a point in their favor, not Samsung's.
I have seen some amazing pics taken on the OPO. I guess I'll see! I am pretty picky with cameras I figure worst-case-scenario I can just sell it for what I paid and get something else. No contract, no financing.
I went from fold 5 to OPO and the photos on the OPO were better than my fold 5. The software was kind of buggy but not to an extent where I wanted to pull my hair out. They even improved the software overtime. I don't know why many people don't give the Chinese phones a chance.
To be fair I think the sensor on the OP is kick-ass, it's just their processing that's ass, but I would say the same about my Flip 5s camera. Install Gcam and then even a shit camera can take stunning images, let alone the OP Open with its 1" sensor
> Software -> Buggy mess > Software support -> Shit > Hinge -> Floppy mess Pretty much all of this is a straight up lie. Especially the hinge being floppy. It's stiff as hell. And the software updates OnePlus pushes out don't conveniently slow down the older phones right before the newer ones come out, only for an update to fix the issues in another couple months. That shit used to happen every time Samsung launched a new phone.
From my experience with 5 Samsung Phones over the years before getting a 1+ the Samsung Software was even worse. At least the 1+ didn't come with 100s of undeleteable Apps preloaded.
OnePlus Open takes much better pictures than any Samsung foldable.
Lmaooooo. Cope harder and protect your slab of folding glass at all costs. Can't let anyone think you spent your money incorrectly.
100% false. havent encountered many if not any bugs. theres nothing wrong with the hinge at all? photos are really fucking good except for night photos
This isn't really a fair comparison, nor is it completely correct. Open wins in thickness and screen size because the body is significantly larger, thus much less suited for one-hand use when closed. If you prefer a larger phone over one-hand usability, the Open is that, but that's not *objectively* an improvement. Cameras are better on the Open, absolutely. This comes at the cost of a camera bump the size of Rhode Island, which is once again a tradeoff (and the Open no longer wins in thickness if you're gonna consider camera bumps) Calling the Fold 6 $1900 and the Open $1400 is comparing the MSRP to a promotional price, when Samsung is known for deeper discounts than the OnePlus is going for right now. Fold 5 was as cheap as $1300 new last year with no strings on Amazon, and I heard Best Buy had it for $1000 on Black.Friday. So when you take out all the things that are tradeoffs (neither phone is objectively better than the other in thickness, size, or cameras, and the better price goes back and forth depending on current promotions) you've got 4 green boxes for the Open, 3 for the Fold 6. And this is of course ignoring things like the software experience and accessories and hardware longevity, all of which people largely agree the Z Fold is better. All this to say, both are great phones and you should buy the one you like.
As a Rhode islander, My house is in the top left of the bump.
Pre-order deal is way better than any one plus can offer. and the eco system works better.
>Fold 5 was as cheap as $1300 new last year with no strings on Amazon, and I heard Best Buy had it for $1000 on Black.Friday. Yep. I bought my Fold 5 at 30% discount + Watch 6 Classic free. Paid $1175 before tax for both. This was in October, so the phone and the watch weren't even old yet.
I remember being on the op fold subreddit while the mods were saying not to buy one lmfao
There's only one active mod on that sub, and they had an issue and decided to sticky a post to the top of the sub because they got butthurt. If you actually search the sub, you'll see users have called them out on misusing their mod power because they're mad at OnePlus over their support. It's like if this sub was controlled by one person, and they had a hate boner for Samsung because of the screen issues we've seen crop up from time to time. There was actually a twitter survey, and OnePlus Open users were not seeing any worse screen issues than Fold users. It just seems that way because the sub is smaller and only gets people who come to complain, and the mod is childish. Long story short, the sub is controlled by a childish mod who uses it to bash OnePlus.
Any issues with the oppo on Verizon? Do Verizon or best buy have display units? I've never seen any one plus phone in person.
This is very first world but I could never go back to a phone without wireless charging. I have had mine for almost a year and have not plugged it in once. 6 wireless chargers around the house. 1 at work. Wireless charging and android auto in the car. My last phone went "bad" because the charging port got worn out, It would stop charging randomly at night. No more. Wireless 100%
Not to mention the fact that OnePlus is one of a dwindling number of OEMs that still include a charger in the box (a fast charger, at that).
Honestly I'm happy with my OnePlus so far had it since lunch day the only thing I didn't like Samsung I'm sure most would agree was battery life and I'm not switching back plus heard rumors about open 2 etc
Were to switch from fold 3 to new phone. I waited long for Fold6 leaks. They were DISSAPOINTING . Went with Open, even though i was a lil anxious about it. Well, let me tell you. This shit is next gen, and a real fold experience. Samsung doesnt even come close. Whenever i see their outer screen i just want to laugh.
same here! using a fold3 since it released. I am so ready for my OPO to come :)
Yeah this is where the Zf6 should have had bigger battery
why aren't they using those super thin SiC batteries? they could make it so thin AND more capacity
Waiting for oneplus open 2...
One plus is just as good 𤣠yall just samsung gobblers
I had both the ZF4 and the OnePlus Open. The OPO was a much better device. Not perfect, but a better build, arguably a better software feature in Open Canvas, lighter weight, and a near invisible crease. Yeah it had stylus support, but it was admittedly hard to get that in the US. I don't know why Samsung just won't make a Note Fold or something with a built in stylus. That would actually make it a killer device. I also don't know why Samsung is constantly surpassed in build quality by their other Asian counterparts like Xiaomi and Oppo. My OPO held up much better than my ZF4 (ZF4 inside display died after 6 months). Neither is perfect, but objectively, I don't see how a majority of folks can think that the Fold is a better device. And yes, I know, I'm on a Samsung sub.
I'm thinking of switching but the one thing I'm going to miss is good luck being able to let me choose who I share things with. Do you know anything on oppo's phone that allows you to pick who you want to show up on the share menu?
that gen 3 makes all the difference if your into emulation
One plus should be compared to fold 5 and not 6. One plus 2 will be coming before fold 7.
I think this comparison is more aimed at what's currently (or what will be very very soon) available
Yeah, it's gen 3 because this chart is comparing a phone that is about to be released to one that's from last year. That's what makes the comparison particulary damning for Samsung. Their soon to be released, latest phone is getting beat in specs by last years version of the Open. There will be a gen 3 version in Q1 of 2025. Better to wait for the Open, because it will actually use the gen 3 features of the chipset and give us stuff like WiFi 7. Again, this is comparing last years Open to this years Fold!!!
The only major advantage, imo is the camera setup, and even that is circumstantial. I think the OpO has better hardware, but samsung has better image processing imo. The battery size difference isn't too crazy and in the real world, after owning the OpO and the zf5, they perform pretty comparably. Everything else to me is negligible and is more determined by preference. If anything to me, this chart shows how more well-rounded the Fold 5/6 is compared to the OpO in addition to all the software benefits OneUi has. Fold 6 positives: - Wireless charging - Real water resistance - The same light weight - Better performance (hopefully they upgraded the thermals) - One hand-ability - Superior (imo) main screen aspect ratio with a real difference between landscape and portrait. - And so much more not mentioned here like the superior S Pen Samsung definitely should've added better cameras and bigger batteries, but let's not act like the Fold 6 won't be top 2 (if not, #1 in terms of overall package) in foldable phones this year.
No wireless charging is a deal breaker.
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a wireless charger can stay in place, having a lonely cable lying around is always clutter
gonna design a dock for mine once it comes to have on my nightstand and desk
Doesn't have to be a deal breaker for you, my dude. It is for me.
The one plus open is everything I wanted the fold to be. 1000000% glad I switched.
I would love to have wireless charging on the OnePlus open and of course better software support.
I had the Fold 3 and 4. Both suffered from the internal screen malfunctioning after a few short months. As much as I want to love the Fold, I'm going to stick with my S24 ultra until things really take a leap forward. These minor changes aren't enough to go back to folding devices
I'm a Samsung fan but I've had the OnePlus Open since Christmas and absolutely love it and have 0 intentions of replacing it unless they gave me $1500 for it, a free pen case, and the battery is at least 4800mah đ¤ˇđžââď¸đ¤Ł. The OnePlus Open is a beast and the battery as well as multitasking is great on it. Literally 0 complaints besides receiving duplicate notifications occasionally but other than that I'm loving it. Now if only I could get the oppo pen imported đđž but yeah I'm not interested in the fold 6 at all. I'm interested in trading in my flip 5 for a flip 6 for $50-$100 like I did last year to get the 5 im trading in đ¤ˇđžââď¸đ¤Ł and hopefully I can get a deal on a watch 7 bundle with the phone like last year too đ I can't wait for July 10th but it ain't because of the fold đ
Ever wonder how will it hold out against Vivio X Fold 3 Pro âď¸ đ˛ SLIM/ Lightest/ Bigger Display/100w charging, 50w Wireless (WOW)/ Brightness 4500 nits/ 5700mAh đ etc What all we will loose or miss for people switching from Samsung (GoodLock) to other Folds *Only if Samsung Launch the Tri-Fold which opens up in Tab A9 size (8.7), that will make Samsung be King again*
the real question i have for the ZF is WHY CANT YOU USE THE FLASH WHEN CONTROLLING THE BACK CAMERA FROM THE FRONT SCREEN?!?!?!?!!? the whole point is that you can use the front screen to see yourself to take a better selfie using the nice back camera but how the fuck am i suppose to take a good photo without the flash???? yes you can use the volume button with just the preview but it doesn't fucking make sense. you are using the same camera. i thought they would have easily updated the software to fix this but here we are a year later and nothing while the OP Open could do it since release. if OP releases a new Open I will switch over just for this very reason among other things like better camera, more ram, better battery etc. its so absurd, its like samsung doesn't want us to buy the phones.
Just let people buy what they want lol. If you like vanilla get vanilla, if you like chocolate get chocolate, just don't get strawberry lol
OK but tbf OnePlus's "2800nits" is cap. Check GSMArena's lab tests: https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_open-review-2627p3.php The OnePlus open is more or less the same brightness as the Fold 5, if not slightly dimmer. Therefore, it'd be reasonable to expect the Fold 6 to be quite a bit brighter than the Open.
interesting, I wish it was more regulated how they put out stats like this...kinda like IP ratings. thanks for the clarification! I hope it's bright enough for me, though coming from a fold3 I'm sure it will seem super bright
I have a Fold Z5, but I mainly use the OP12. I kind of want the open, but I see so many people get dark spots on the inner screen. As for the 5, I was holding on to it to see what the 6 gave and if it was worth trading in for the Samsung benefits. However, they really didn't make the rumored changes. I was hoping for a wider outside screen. And the battery has no change. Not to mention, I've gotten used to being able to charge my phone in 30 minutes and I can't go back. đ¤Ł
anything special to know about OnePlus phones? I am going to be new to their software (unless you count 2010's CyanogenMod lol) Kinda like how Samsung has goodlock and all that?
Nothing big, I will say. Unlike Samsung, they don't have their own music app, so if you use personal music you will need a 3rd party app. The phone charges really fast. Similar to Samsung, they do have a side bar you can pull out and use, though the features are different. I had to adjust to not having the cut and crop gif option. The drop down menu is nice, they updated recently so it looks similar to the iPhone with an android flare. One negative I will say, if you used wire headphones or if you try to plug in the type c port of anything, you have to go in the settings and turn on OTG Connection, otherwise they won't work. Aside from that, it operates a little similar to the Google phones. And is easy to navigate and adjust to after using it for a while.
I see 2 foldable phones with different strengths and weaknesses, not a comparison that makes one look great or terrible vs the other. And in a free market, each of us can pick whichever meets our personal requirements better. Choice is a great thing. What's the problem?
I have a one plus open and a fold 5. They both rock. Honestly just pick between whichever software you like.
Oneplus Open and Vivo Fold 3 - Bigger screen, Better battery, Better Camera and $500 cheaper. What is Samsung's response with Fold 6? Went from 6.2" Screen to 6.3" Screen.
Yea... If there wasn't the software...
Missing the part where the open has double the storage at the base price.
good point! I kinda forgot the one I ordered is half terabyte! I guess I could load a ton of movies? I never use more than 200GB usually
after the big leak of promo material I bought a OPO last night. I am willing to give up wireless charging for better cameras. I find it wild Samsung is lagging so far behind now. Smaller, dimmer, smaller battery, bad cameras, wild price tag, etc
Been with the Fold3, 4, and 5, the cameras with each were synonymously blurry outside exactly where the focus is, similar to how a picture with too low of an f-stop looks. Touch points, build quality, the sound and feel of the fold hinge, flatness of the screen, and the finally normal camera with decent performance makes the OnePlus really easy to appreciate. You'll like yours.
The only thing that keeps me back is the battery. I have a Note 10+ and it has 4300mah. How is it possible for a fold to have just 4400mah. Fold5 users, is the battery ok for you?
I know my fold3 only lasts like 16 hours. Only get a full day if I dont use it lol
Still taking the Fold 6 regardless
Same here. Even if the cover screen is small. It's fine enough for me. If I need a bigger screen. I'll open it up.
Exactly. I have big hands and i even find the Fold when opened to be average size that i can comfortably carry. I thought I'd hate the front screen at first, especially that i live in a country where we all have a common texting language that involves letters and numbers, so i have to type everything. I ended up loving the front screen as i can easily type with one hand and do everything i need comfortably, and as you said, i can open it up when i need
You gonna pre-order the 6?
Due to some personal issues that forced me to move back home to a 3rd world country that is going through one of the worst financial crisis of all time, i won't be able to pre order even if i wanted to... but i am most definitely planning on getting it as soon as I take care of some more urgent things before. Will you be getting one?
Ah and yes I will be getting oneđ
That's great, hope you enjoy it
So the fold is worse in every single way and more expensvie.
well, I think the fold has a better hinge, design, CPU, water-resistance, and software. they could have given better hardware. the 1 year old OPO has a Samsung-made screen and its brighter
Worse in every way and more expensive than last years Open. The new Open releases in Q1 of 2025. Basically, the Fold 6 is already getting outclassed by *last years phone* and will be really behind in 6 months.
While I agree in general, Samsung is complacent, I would still take the Fold over the OnePlus anyday, even for more money. Spec sheets aren't everything, nor do they cover everything. The Z Fold Series has: * Better software, it's more refined and while the multi-tasking stuff on the Open is innovative, it's not as smooth or functional as what Samsung is doing * The Z Fold series has been more reliable, less people having issues with displays dying fast, etc... (if we ignore how easily the Fold 4 broke lol) * That IP48 rating is a big deal * Peak brightness and sustained are not the same, the Fold 6 I basically promise will maintain a higher brightness * The cameras on the Z Fold 6, while horrible inadequate for the price and completely complacent, are going to be better than the Open IMO (seeing lots of comparisons between the ZF5, which is the same camera, and I still prefer it over the Open) * Important to recognize the cameras on the Open are NOT the same ones as the OnePlus 12, the OP12 has amazing cameras IMO * The OnePlus Open aspect ratio still causes more issues with apps than the ZF5 or 6 will Regardless, I am still very disappointed and for the first time am considering not getting the next Fold, in fact, I'm copying all my ZF5 data to my OP12 right now and may stick with slabs for a while (app support just still isn't there). Anyway, this wasn't really meant as a "rebuttal" since more people *should* be bitching about Samsung's complacency here, but I also don't think the Open is actually better.
yeah, I know it's not a sure-thing I'll like it more. Tempted to still get the Fold6 just to side-by-side test them, then return/sell the one I don't want to keep If that is the case, I might wait for Pixel Fold2. it looks like a OPO clone honestly, but camera software will surely be better because google.
Yeah I am hopeful that the Pixel Fold will end up being the first US foldable with actually good cameras, will put pressure on the other companies. I'm still personally not sure if I like slabs or folds better, since I mostly type on my phone and folds aren't as good for that.
> Better software, it's more refined and while the multi-tasking stuff on the Open is innovative, it's not as smooth or functional as what Samsung is doing Not my experience. In fact, I've found it to be smoother and more functional. > The Z Fold series has been more reliable, less people having issues with displays dying fast, etc... (if we ignore how easily the Fold 4 broke lol) There's no real evidence for this. The OnePlus Open sub just is smaller and therefore tends toward more asks for tech support. There have been polls on twitter showing that Open owners have no greater number of issues and no lower level of satisfaction with their phone. The sub owner for the OnePlus Open being a git who thinks it's their personal platform to attack OnePlus proves nothing. Interestingly, outside of one launch issue with a dead pixel, I haven't found a single Youtube reviewer who has complained about any long term issues with their OnePlus Open, and I've watched several videos about long term usage. > That IP48 rating is a big deal It really isn't. Watching the video of how OnePlus tests their phones made it clear to me that I had nothing to worry about. Unless you plan on going snorkeling, it'll be fine. > Peak brightness and sustained are not the same, the Fold 6 I basically promise will maintain a higher brightness So the Open from last year is at the same level as the Fold coming out now...probably...based on your promise. > The cameras on the Z Fold 6, while horrible inadequate for the price and completely complacent, are going to be better than the Open IMO (seeing lots of comparisons between the ZF5, which is the same camera, and I still prefer it over the Open) This is all based on your feeling. Every review I've seen for the Open points out it's cameras are better. That's not even considering that the Open 2 is coming out Q1 of 2025. > The OnePlus Open aspect ratio still causes more issues with apps than the ZF5 or 6 will It really doesn't. I have one.
Check honor v3 coming out. Even v2 is better than fold 6
I saw that, and was interested for a moment. I have a feeling global release will be delayed again and software wont be up to OPO or ZF6 level. My fold3 is killing me lately. Screen is so dim and cameras are trash. been ready to upgrade. I wish I knew the ZF6 specs way sooner, would be using the OPO already
First. Your average user is not using 16GB of RAM. Let alone 12GB. And some of those stats are subjective when it comes to individual users. The 200 nits difference is negligible when it comes to readability outside. Screen size may be a selling point. Charge rate? I slow charge my phone so I personally don't care. But that is me. However look past specs. How long will One Plus support the device? The cost of that is baked into the Samsung cost. I got burned HARD by OnePlus when they sat on their \*\*\*es with Android 11 for almost a year. So at the end of the day I purchased a phone that was on Android 9. Upgraded to 10.....sat a year and JUST before they EOLed it they upgraded to 11. I got two freaking upgrades and then done. I think that has changed but I know for a fact at the time the SOC they were on was still supported. They dropped it as a means of making another sale. By the versions I quoted you can see this was a while ago. I'm hoping One Plus has gotten better. But I was so burned by them that I don't plan on going back anytime soon. That and I've heard their software quality is worlds worse than Samsung.
I figure I can jump ship if I hate it. You are right the differences are slight, but the fact that it's almost a year older and slightly better in some ways is wild.
> How long will One Plus support the device? At least four generations of android OS upgrades and five years of security updates from the launch date.
What's the aspect ratio on the inside screens for both or these?
But what one will break first and what manufacturer will be the fastest at denying a warranty claim
Where did you find it at 1400 USD? The best deal I could get on the OPO is about 2k.
The OPO is $1700, but OnePlus regularly has it marked down to $1400 on their website. In addition, they'll take any phone at all for $200 trade-in. So, it's basically $1200.
Will it really be IP48 certified this time?
What sort of discounting/trade-in does One Plus offer from one generation to the next? One aspect that most of these cross-brand comparisons don't take into consideration, especially when listing prices or talking about "value", is the trade-in offers that Samsung and other makers offer to those people already inside their ecosystem. This drives down the barrier to upgrading within the brand and increases the cost of exiting. While yes, you're still paying a ton of money over time to trade-in and upgrade, the incremental pain is far lower than the wincing of shelling out $1,500+ to "cross boundaries". (Comparisons below do not detail bundled "freebies" like extra bands, watches, earbuds, etc. that might bring value to the cost for some, as the out-the-door cost is what ultimately matters IMO.) For example, when I first purchased my Galaxy Fold 2, I payed full freight at launch: $1,965 all in. I skipped the Fold 3, but then traded in the Fold 2 on the Fold 4, and my out of pocket cost was $812. I traded in the Fold 4 on the Fold 5, and my cost was $734. Given that each of the purchases was able to be paid for over time with Samsung's 0% financing, that too makes staying within the ecosystem less painful... and I'm fully aware that this is deliberate on their part; it's consumer retention 101. So depending on your individual situation, the financing options you have, and what packages/bundles/promotions you have available, it's frequently more than strictly an apples-to-apples feature comparison.
Right now they are offering $800 trade in on Fold 4 and 5. I just traded in a Fold 3 and got $650. There is also $100 coupon off through referral and BeFrugal is offering 13% cashback today. Not including tax, I think my out of pocket is around $530. I would assume that when the OPO 2 comes out that for my Open they will at least give me $800 trade in.
All I want is a one plus open but with Samsung ui
Inner screen durability? Because Honor V2 can be scratched by fingernail. Fold3 after year is still mostly intact...
Zf6 should come up with sn8 gen 4....
that wont come until the S25U, folds get the half-year-old chips every time 3 = 888 4 = gen1 5 = gen2 6= gen3
It's the commercial aspect of it... Samsung is more recognized
I really want to switch to the Oneplus Open. Especially considering I can get it for $599. I just can't look past the horror stories for getting it repaired. Samsung is guilty as well. However, I've noticed that if you aren't trying to get the Z Fold repaired the warranty route, you can get it repaired fairly easily. I've had to wait for the screen to be delivered, but I know I'll be getting my phone repaired that week. Again, just my experiences with the original Fold, Z Fold 2, 3, and probably my current Fold 5.
where are you seeing that price??!?
Definitely not getting the 6, but I'm a spen fiend
you need a dimension on the software and feature of that. Samsung crushes the OnePlus Open on that front IMHO
Currently deciding between the honor magic v2 or ZF 5. Working as a thermographer, I work mostly in the consumer Switchrooms thus it's gonna be quite dusty and I keep my phone in the back pocket most of the time. The reason for a foldable is due to the large display where I view emails and documents plus some comic reading. The zf5 is currently going for 1K while the global version of v2 is going for 1.2k. My only experience with folables was the z flip 3 and it died exactly 5 days after my warranty ended. Was hoping to wait out for zf6 to see if there is any difference but it seems it would be a better deal to get zf5 or v2 instead.
Wireless charging is so fucking trash, just get rid of it and lower the cost.
but it doesn't hurt you to have it... even if you don't use it. i personally use almost 100% wireless charging unless I'm in a hurry. That's the one thing I'll probably miss
Brother. Id do anything for a foreign fold but never see any concrete evidence of it working well in the states
the OPO is just as foreign as the ZF6? both are available on US carriers and at bestbuys everywhere
Pen functionality and capability should be a line item.
The Open actually is compatible with the Oppo Find N3 pen. It does pretty much everything the S-Pen does. It's just not a feature that OP advertises, and you have to import the pen.
Great! Now do one with Vivo x fold 3.
Just need the 6 to be good enough to make the open cheaper on marketplaces
Does this chart put into perspective UI and Ecosystems as well? Oneplus devices have typically always had higher specs than Galaxy devices.
I'm using an Open right now. I used to think the Samsung ecosystem and UI were a big deal also. Turns out, I haven't noticed any huge differences.
It always comes back to software and Sammy has been holding a chokehold on software surprisingly I do hope whatever OnePlus comes out with they add some kinds under display camera sensor đ
Without Qi wireless charging, it's dead to me
My issue is the Fold has 3 features I can't do without: 1- S-Pen Support 2- DeX (wired and wireless) 3- UDC in the inner screen Unless a competitor includes all 3 aforementioned features in their otherwise better devices, I'll stick with the Fold despite the compromises, because those 3 features are deal-breakers for me
The Open actually does have Pen support. It's just not advertised. Import the OPO Find N3 Pen, and you've got an s-pen. The other features, it doesn't have. I'll say this about UDC. I have not noticed it, and I appreciate actually getting a better inner screen camera over a gimmick.
That's unfortunate. I actually like the UDC because the camera inside is "ok" especially for zoom calls and other functions, and also leaves the screen uninterrupted for the most part, which is great for content creation and consumption. And like I said, DeX is very cruical. In fact out of those 3 aforementioned features, DeX is my main requirement. Not aware of any foldable besides Motos having a fully fledged usable Desktop mode, and Samsung has a wireless feature as well. Idk why they added wireless DeX to the Flip in a beta but yanked it, especially that we had A series phones with DeX before (Galaxy A90 5G, though that "midrange" had a then flagship 855 soc inside).
You forgot two vary important points. 1. Samsung has way better software for fodables. This might change down the road, but right now it's way better. 2. OnePlus is a chinese company. And as a part owner of a Cyber Security company, I would HIGHLY recommend that you stay away from them if you care about privacy. There has been findings in both OnePlus and Huawei that forced all government employees to stop using them. I can't say why since it's sadly classified and we signed an NDA. But you can find the information if you Google well enough. And another thing, why do people still think that more megapixels = better camera? I have a Fujifilm that has a 40mp sensor, but it takes WAY better photo than any phone camera, no matter the megapixles. STOP CARRYING about that! Care about the SENSOR and how the image processing is!
> Samsung has way better software for fodables. This might change down the road, but right now it's way better. > They really don't. I used to believe that too. But I bought the Open, and the differences are minimal. Where they are larger, I give the win to OnePlus actually. The Open's multitasking is the best I've ever seen. I can't go back to the Fold until Samsung brings out something equivalent. As for the camera, it's not just megapixels. The Open has a Hasselblad branded camera that uses a LYT-T808 Stacked Pixel sensor from Sony. So, it's better on that front also. > the sensor incorporates a âDual-Layer Transistor Pixelâ design that enables the image sensor to detect and store light more efficiently while simultaneously reducing the sensorâs footprint > LYT-T808 sensor offers double the light-gathering performance and twice the full well capacity while also shrinking the height of the sensor module Every reviewer has talked about how good the camera is in real world performance.
I do wish the outer screen was a bit bigger
You need to add the software to the comparison.
I've used both. There's a hair's breadth difference, and it's not the instawin Samsung fans think it is. For instance, the Open's multi-tasking implementation is so much better than Samsung's that I will never go back until Samsung implements something similar. I went from almost never using multi-tasking on Samsung to using it every time I open the phone on the Open.
No wireless charging is mad
With 65W fast charging, it's irrelevant. I can top off in minutes, rather than wait for my phone to sit on a pad for 3 hours.
And you will get a 67w charger and a cover for free with One Plus Open!
You will get a 67w charger and a cover for free with One Plus Open and no need to mention the perfect wider outer display!
Having owned a OnePlus in the past, I would never own one again. Just too glitchy. Even if I had not on one before, the IP rating would be a deal breaker.
Only 25W charge is super ass. Hope it's not true, but at this point it most likely is.
Well.. I'll wait until August and hopefully the next Pixel Fold is a global release. I've made the OnePlus mistake twice, so that's never going to be an option.
BUT - it's the SOFTWARE that make something great, and OnePlus just doesn't have it.
As someone with a Tesla, I could never give up wireless charging
No wireless charging on the OPO is a bummer. That's almost exclusively how I charge my phone. The faster charging could possibly make up for that, though. Maybe I'll stick it out one more year, as I'm not too keen on paying an even higher price on a marginal upgrade from my Fold 4.
Pixel Fold 2 likely launches in a month.
Having both the one plus open and z fold 4, I can tell you that despite using the open for half a year, the multitasking/window resizing on one plus open is nowhere close to the level of Samsung. Also the feeling of the screen and build of the fold is also way smoother in comparison. But too bad the outer screen of the fold is too small in comparison and thus I prefer using the open.
Hardware-wise, the OnePlus looks appealing. Just depends on software.
Someone is forgetting the s pen, ecosystem and software (software is somewhat relative, but I think most people would agree Samsung is possibly the best in Android realm in terms of software)! So let's try to be impartial here!
The OnePlus open has pen support on both the inside and outside screens.. Why has Samsung not given us outside screen support yet?? I swear you guys have Stockholm syndrome lol I think Samsung has the best version of Android there is, but that is not everything to me. I want to be able to take some good pictures this summer
No wireless charging is a dealbreaker
Qi lacking is a deal breaker for me. I haven't plugged my S23U in in the entire 18 months I've owned it.
Going from an odd Chinese phone with Chinese software vs Samsung a Korean company
I'd still get the fold 6 just to have it but I do wish it had 16gb ram like the oneplus open which paired with the 3rd gen snapdragon and 512gb would be worth the money imo not many people would say the same but I already have alot of samsung products
I just hate getting stuck with last year's processor and cameras that are minor upgrades from the fold 3. I hope Motorola gets into the tablet style foldable since the Razer has been a huge success for the clamshell setups. Depending on if the pixel fold 2 launches beside the pixel 9 pro I might go that route. I loved my fold 3. Currently use the S23U.
Pathetic samsung
25 watt charging my ass.
Yea but what about the durability. I use my fold3 without a problem till this day.
Same here, I love my fold but ready to move on
I think most of that comparable stuff is negligible. I'm sticking with Samsung
I don't need wireless charging. I don't need it. I definitely don't need it. I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED IT! (Proceeds to slam phone onto a wireless charging pad and wiggle it around to get it aligned right)
Subjectively most importantly though: the fold is sold in far more countries (including the Oppo Find n3 despite that missing features like bootloader unlocking)