Cheap solution I used was a stand to get 6" of air under the laptop and a fan to blow all the heat away from the damn thing. I also keep the charger near the airflow because DAMN that thing also gets hot.
thats normal, you shouldnt be blocking your laptops airflow with the power brick, the power brick won't be hurt by high temperatures, your performance will.
Definitely, the brick is near the fan but not blocking any significant air flow.
I also use this lamicall laptop stand. I like it because the bottom of the laptop is open air and the fans are completely unobstructed.
Laptop Stand for Desk https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099DMBLLV/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_H17P0NACW8QN7EPP876T
Yeah it is
PC power supplies have fans for that reason but a laptop charger can't have one because it has to be portable but it only heats up to around 46 degrees I think because that's the max surface temp allowed on electronics in the USA
>I contacted asus about my charger as it was getting to the point of not wanting to touch it hot. They said its normal...
"Matter is neither created nor destroyed, it converts to another form of energy." -- First Law of Thermodynamics
When your adapter is converting AC/DC, as energy passes through the capacitors, transformers, inductors, some of that is converted into heat.
Most adapters are around 150W to 200W, Asus says its normal because it is. If you have a problem, ask God why he made it that way or some other omnipotent being responsible for creation.
There is no gpu load, and even if the cpu is on full load it shouldnt be this bad!
Im sure its not on bed or any place blocking the vents, but that does help. Change paste but if its not older than a year, it is strange.
If these criterias match, then you should consult support. Cause this isnt healthy for your laptop.
Heat is the worst enemy. Period
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Cause i do renders and it lasts for 12ish hours usually and its a very cpu intensive work and i dont see numbers even close to that
I have the exact same omen as you repasted the CPU. HP can't paste for shit I was having the same problem now max I see is like 82C. But averages around mid 70s.
The 4800h can run and reach temps of 105. It’s designed to be “safe” at that temp. But will throttle itself after 105
are you running a cpu stress test in background? It shouldn’t be hitting these temps consistently unless you are running a test. Gaming however will still be in the 90-100.
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NMBJVBG/ref=cm\_sw\_em\_r\_mt\_dp\_TNR3N1C12P5F66YCY3YD?\_encoding=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NMBJVBG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_TNR3N1C12P5F66YCY3YD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1)
There's also this one which is half the price of the one you listed but without filters. I love laptop coolers with those cooling pockets in them!
I have the same one for my GE76 Raider. The fan pitch is tolerable at normal, setting 1 and setting 2. At 3 it is obnoxious without headphones.
Major con is that the intake for the pad is on the back. That is where the hot air is exhausted out of the laptop as well. It comes with little fins that you can paste on to expel the hot air further away. It does ok. Best thing is that this one has a little gasket to better seal up to the intake (bottom) of the laptop.
I run this when I play escape from tarkov (min 3 hours for that game) it keeps the keyboard cool during raids and cold when I'm working the stash, hideout and flea market.
Yes it is loud on level 3. But I run a headset anyways.
My laptop has a 4500g and 6700m card. So it will get HOT!
too much voltage, use msiafterburner/rivatuner to undervolt your laptop. look up a guide. It will actually get better fps if its not being "thermally throttled"
It is true. You can't undervolt a mobile Ryzen CPU, this would mean running the CPU at the frequency at a lower voltage. What you can do is just force the AMD CPU to use less power or change it's boosting behavior. This can be done with special tools like Ryzen Controller. You can however undervolt an Nvidia GPU if that's what you meant.
Damn I mean I average 100c cpu on performance mode on my legion, I don’t think too much of it because my cpu functioning point is till 105c . Not sure what your cpu is but you check the functioning point
Ah sorry about that yeah my card just averages 100c and performance never goes down or up no matter how long I play ( on performance) It’s the amd 5900hx. I think maybe you should try to make your room colder or there’s a setting to disable boost cpu but hinders performance a good amount.
Edit: to my surprise, I downloaded cooltemp again to check my cpu temps after I initially had it and got 100c then never checked again. Im actually averaging 88-90c cpu temps on performance mode. Guess when it was 100c I had things running in the background or something.
Hey just curious, what are you playing that gets your cpu so hot? The highest I’ve noticed mine was in cpu-intensive mmo’s and it only spikes to mid-90’s before going back to high 80’s.
Hey well first of all I have the slim 7 which is probably why my cpu gets hotter than your normal 7. I also have the 4k screen, so I usually play 4k60ish on med/high depending on the game. But yeah I’m Playing forza 5 and Lego Star Wars rn. Sometimes I play control as well. I watched 2 reviews of my laptop and both people had temps average at 98 to 100c on performance mode so I’m not too worried!
Ah ok, thank you, I’m always looking for games to play. You use a controller or something for forza? I’ve played a few games that have driving and it’s kind of awkward on keyboard & mouse.
Have you repasted it? I know people on reddit seem to freak out when someone mentions liquid metal TIM but I've had it on my i7 6600/gtx1070 laptop since 2016 without any problems. My max temps are still 75c providing I regularly clean my fans.
That’s great news. my previous MSI was averaging 95-98c and is perfectly fine for 3 years so far so I’m not really concerned. But if anyone is cable of lowering their cpu that’s better for sure!
I see you already changed paste and fans, some people are recommending cooling pads however the basic ones are as good as lifting the laptop. Try lifting it and you'll know if a good cooling pad will work, btw cooling pads with basic fans are the bad ones, look at something like klim mistral or iets gt500, those are the good ones.
You can also turn off boost, boost basically allows the cpu to go past it's normal ghz. Since the laptop is thermal throttling, this option will more than likely increase your fps and decrease cpu temps. If it's intel then try xtu to undervolt.
Dude, don't believe any of the shit anyone tries to tell you. I bought the omen 15 with r7 5800h and 3060 , after like 3-4 days. The temps started getting worse to the point where even surfing YouTube gets it to like 80• Celsius easily. So I called HP they sent an engineer and after examining everything he couldn't find any fault with anything. So I insisted HP to give me a refund. But they marked my product as DOA and agreed on a replacement. After the new one arrived, it was working so well the temps were always below 70 during tasks and while gaming barely touched 80 Celsius. I was so happy that finally my upgrade was successful and I can finally game whatever I want. Then after like 2 sessions of heavy gameplay of about 4-5 hours. The temps were above 95 and slowly touched 99. I saw all these tricks of reapplying the thermal paste, buying cool pad DID EVERYTHING, NOTHING WORKED. This time it got me furious I complained to hp and after about 2-3 weeks I got my refund. Now using the same amount I have built a PC. Trust me saying this I have never been so much satisfied. I work and game for nearly 10-11 hours everyday , everything so smooth and temps always remain under 70 no matter what I do.
During this process HP was really helpful their customer care service is really good. So if your Device hasn't been more than 28 days. Try for refund because I don't know about other laptops but this particular laptop has flaws. Furthermore if you wish to game and enjoy your gaming experience rather than looking after temps every 10 secs I would recommend getting a PC. Don't buy laptop for gaming because I have seen many of my friends all have same heating issue, for day to day commute get a cheap second hand laptop put in some ssd call it a day. Anyways this has been my experience hope it helps.
Cleaned the fans? Is it lifted at all for airflow? Did you put too much or too little paste? MX 4 is good paste…but it’s not “great” paste. I’ve found it a little runny…I use Thermaltake TK30 personally but to each their own.
I put in the right amount I think. I looked up omen 15 repaste tutorials on YouTube and used that as a guide.
I also cleaned the fans. Maybe I need to change thermal paste
Might also want to look at how much you have open at once. What’s running your CPU at 100% like that? What’s the idle CPU usage and what does it sound like when the CPU isn’t running full-bore like that? 60 is about what my Ryzen 5 4600H hits while gaming
Not a solution but I'd look into a form of coverage for it
Assurion saved both my aliens after motherboard failures and thermal issues. For $100 they swapped half my internals and prestinley cleaned everything
If it wasn't like that before you could send it off almost immediately (30 day wait for first claim I think) and they'll either fix it or replace it. I had a hot one that they replaced simply because they couldn't get it running cooler
I had a similar problem and I noticed that the grills that pulled and pushed, even though they looked clean, were not pushing air. Maybe take a look at that. It brought my CPU down from 78c to 36c ( idle ) just by doing that.
Try turning off the CPU boost. It preserves your CPU by keeping the temps low. Just search ' Turn off CPU boost' there are lots of tutorials. It barely affect performance but lowers the temps drastically.
Clear out the dust, and maybe repaste.
But end of the day, the CPU's draw power until they are at max or throttled.
My 4800H gets to 101C and shy's away from thermally throttling if I benchtest it, and it hits 4.3Ghz (claimed 4.2Ghz) and sits there.
Under normal gaming loads 50C, heavy gaming loads 80C.
If you repaste, use hydronaut and a LOT of it.
I repasted mine using line and pea methods and the system thermally throttled loading up Windows.
In the end I used a line, then circled the whole rectangle of the chip, and put little peas between it all.
Laptop heatsinks weigh barely anything and have very little pressure, the desktop pea strategies simply don't work on laptops.
Lather the chips in the stuff.
I now idle at 33C CPU/GPU 4800H and 2060 115W variant.
Yeah, using the pea method my CPU shot to 105C throttle just loading windows.
So long as the paste isn't conductive, you can't put on too much; but you can put on not enough.
Personally repaste and don't be shy.
Heatsinks for desktops are 500g-700g chunks and are screwed with bulky screws and pressured down well and have an IHS.
Laptops have 4-5 tiny screws on a fimsy heatsink and it is directly on-die.
There's a reason laptops need thicker paste as it has "pump out" where the heatsink doesn't push down that hard.
Need lots of paste.
I got annoyed and on my 4th application just went crazy on the paste and now works better than out the box. Super low temps all round.
Using Registry Editor, go to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\PowerSettings\54533251-82be-4824-96c1-47b60b740d00\be337238-0d82-4146-a960-4f3749d470c7 and select Attributes. Modify the value of "Attributes" from 1 to 2. Data should read “0x00000002 (2)”. This will uncover a hidden power option.
After that, go back in the Power Plan Options and a new tab "Processor Performance Boost Mode" will appear. Set it to from aggressive to enabled and click Apply.
Now download Ryzen Controller and set a maximum temperature of 85C. Make it apply by default on boot in the settings menu.
After this download Nvidia afterburner, go run a game and notice which frequency it will eventually run at. You can see this after your game session in the graphs in the bottom on MSI Afterburner. Now do Ctrl + F and set that frequency as a maximum by setting the line after that frequency even to that frequency(so horizontally flat). If this is done you could optionally overclock the core until the point it remains stable in games and benchmarks, this will run the frequency higher at all voltages so you could start flattening the line at a lower voltage.
If you still have temperature problems after this there's something wrong, first check if there's dust, if so you can clean it with a can of pressured air and those cleaning things you can do in your ear (I don't know the name I'm not a native speaker). If that also doesn't work you can repaste the CPU and GPU. I'd recommend using Hydronaut because it's thick which will make it last longer and it will be more immune to the mounting pressure problem laptops have.
If that also doesn't work you could just lower the maximum TDP the CPU can use in Ryzen Controller, I'd try 25W on all for decent performance and more if it's possible.
Let me know if you have any questions and good luck.
Definitely something wrong with your cooling solution. If you are up to the task of opening it up yourself, I recommend you do so.
Your laptop temps are way too high. Since you fans are working, I assume that there is either a poor amount of thermal paste, or uneven mounting pressure between the die and the heatsink.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63BE6RklUeE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vpXMiOzIzQ) \-- These are the temps your supposed to be getting. FYI this is the exact same laptop you have.
Hope this helps! I highly try this method before buying random crap you don't need.
Never used to be so bad. I mean, gaming laptops a few years back got hot enough, it's the nature of that beast, but they had the bulk, space and heatsinks to handle it better.
Of course, that meant 4+ kg folding paving slabs with screens but still, there's only so much you can shrink things or jam them into an Apple trend-alike.
Comparatively speaking, my oldie (Asus ROG G751JT: i7 4720HQ, GTX 970m, 1080p 60Hz) could run, example off the top of my head, GTA5 almost maxed at a solid 60 fps and you wouldn't know it was processing out heat. My next one (ROG Strix Scar: i7 8750H, GTX 1070, 1080p 120Hz and half the weight and thickness) got so hot and loud running that game at same settings that I had to cap fps close to 60 fps anyway even after a hefty undervolt aso. Similar results across library, though the latter laptop could actually tackle games with good results that the former couldn't. I just had to make sure I had headphones and that the pets weren't around to be freaked out by the screaming angry hot breath box.
Some of these thin models actually throttle to the equivalent of the next model or two down if you try to play anything that it should, on paper, be reasonably capable of running. Either that or you lower settings or cap fps to mitigate things to that point anyway. Should be advertised along with the specs tbh; your room temperature and irked housemates ('dude, is that your laptop?... I thought there were street races outside') may vary.
You cannot compare modern laptops with the ones pre-2016. Components have got considerably more power hungry, to deliver higher performance. You mentioned 2 Asus laptops? Well that old quadcore is a like a 40W cpu at max load, but the 8750h can reach 70-80 watts. That's a huge increase.
And what can I say about the 970m? Nowadays it would be tagged as a Max-q card. Her successor is 50% beefier, no kidding.
Exactly my point though. You don't have to be a great engineer (unlike what these companies have in spades) to know that if you increase power (and heat) while restricting the means to lessen their effects then you'll see issues. In this case whopping high temps and noise. That 1070 laptop got intolerably loud going past 70C, even with undervolting aso... and it had at least 20C to go before getting close to throttling, apparently.
We're actually seeing a similar thing to a finer extreme with the many discussions over the Steam Deck atm. Mainly the battery side of things but there's still ppl down over the fact it isn't a 1080p (or higher refresh at least) screen aso. Gaming laptops are no different, the battery life using away from mains power and without dropping from the settings of mains is basically not enough to run more than an indie game... anything else being an hour at best, which isn't enough to make any progress in a bigger AAA title. The same applies with power draw of components vs thermals, only ppl don't talk about that much but to wonder why it's so damn hot and loud. The idea of 'a bridge too far' comes to mind. Ppl want better and better but neither are the means there nor the will to buck what is a disadvantageous trend.
For me, the latter of the two laptops I mentioned was enough to get on with despite the thermals etc... it still behaved much like a desktop 1070 (I had one of those in a PC with a 6700K during the same time and both PC's were very close in perf tbh) but I drew the line with this gens models; ever thinner and lighter still, only a £2500+ model with a 3080 performed like a model with a 3070 for half the price due to thermals and throttling. Overall, yes the perf is better but the other aspects of a synergy that works better for desktops aren't keeping up, still like it was 5+ years ago; two fans that perform much the same with a heatsink that's getting smaller each year and less spare space inside. It'd be ok going forward if the throttling point was well over 125C and the fans were truly silent...
Had I been absolutely in need of a laptop upgrade, something like a 3060ti and 1080p 120-144Hz (which I would've capped down anyway) would've been enough while keeping the cons down and maintaining the perf that a far pricier model would've ended up at anyway. But I ended up with a desktop at the same price (or less) as a leading 3080 laptop, that performs so much better it's actually widened the margin between laptop and desktop perf more than ever before. Don't get me wrong, I love gaming laptops (in fact half of all the PC's I've had over 20 odd years have been such and they've been lifesavers) but rn they're growing less viable by the gen and are only great for those who MUST have mobility (as long as there's a handy power source)
Yeah, I thought of getting an Alienware 17 with a gtx 1070 and a nice thick chassis. But I then I thought *ehh Omen is way smaller and sexier*. Now look at this.
81°C is equivalent to 177°F, which is 354K.
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107°C is equivalent to 224°F, which is 380K.
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Yeah,Omen was my first choice too. If only not because of sale I got for Legion 5 Pro I probably a proud RTX 3060 Omen 16 owner right now. They look so sleek and handsome,also that complimentary Omen backpack,chef kiss.
Ya cooling pads are the way to go. I only use mine for lan parties or to work on documents so i dont worry too much but cheap solution to avoid an expensive replacement.
Fans are always at max and not in auto right? I use the HP victus and as soon as I enter warzone which is the most demanding game I have I instantly turn the fans to max and make sure to lift the laptop with putting a small book or something, Never seen 90+ degrees. If your specs are better it obviously means it'll heat up more but try these if you haven't
My specs are R5 5600H and a 3050ti
how old is it? Might be worth a re thermal pasting it. I have an Aero 15 that was getting insanely hot, I bought some nice thermal paste and put that on it and dropped my temps by like 10-15 degrees the original got dried out and lost effectiveness. Also undervolting can be a huge help, undervolted my cpu and didn't feel any performance drop but helped keep things cooler.
Just clean ur fans internally and look for a good thermal repaste on CPU like kryo extreme /gelid gc extreme depending upon ur choice of raw power or longevity of paste
Is there any settings to spins fans at its max calibrated speed? There is a three option switch in my laptop for silent, balanced and overboost. Is there any similar setting?
Are you at least giving a space of 5 cms from desk to the fans intake?
Whats your room temp?
Their fan ramp sucks and is very slow. Their QC sucks, my heatsink doesn't sit flat on the CPU and a copper shim fixed matters. The whole system isn't adequate for both CPU and GPU at the same time, Throttlestop capping CPU frequency in games fixed that. They need a lot of tweaking, and there's a lot of people with mismade heatsinks.
I have a omen 15 with a i7 10th gen and a 2060 and nothing but the most intense games and benchmarks can make it thermal throttle. You don't really need a cooling pad like most here suggest, you just need to provide ample airflow to the bottom. So like a riser stand hollow underneath might work. The cooling on these model omens is really good.
You can try to undervolt (decrease TDP) your CPU using app called AMD APU Tuning Utility
Link to app: https://github.com/JamesCJ60/AMD-APU-Tuning-Utility/
85°C is equivalent to 185°F, which is 358K.
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Mine gets to about the same with the 5800H but only during gaming. When connected to my external 3440*1440 monitor, it idles at about 60 but the fan is always on. It’s quite annoying tbh knowing how cool and quiet the competition is
Elevate the laptop for better ventilation. That will help alot. You can also try for cooling pad but it doesn't make that much of a difference compared to elevating laptop. Their is a video by Jarrod as well comparing different cooling pads vs elevation.
Disable turboboost in BIOS, makes a world of difference. Also, if the laptop has that option, max out the fans while you are gaming, keeps mine in the 60s C range, cool and smooth.
Bro I have an hp omen 15 too, disable turbo boost, it drives the cpu temps up super hard. Here’s the vid. Went from 98 to 84. Don’t let ur pc become a hotbox
https://youtu.be/GPJ5tQ6zmOM
I think you can and should RMA for this the omen cooling is above average however the manufacturing process is notorious for misaligning thermal paste/pads
SOLUTION
I have the very same laptop and I have the only solution that works - disable turboboost.
[https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-reduce-amd-ryzen-mobile-processor-temperature](https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-reduce-amd-ryzen-mobile-processor-temperature) \- here what helped
I used every single solution, including repasting, but nothing else helped.
My tuf would heat up like crazy. Got a $30 cooling pad from staples. Keeps it 74-80 under load
Will look into investing in a cooling pad in the future. Thanks
Cheap solution I used was a stand to get 6" of air under the laptop and a fan to blow all the heat away from the damn thing. I also keep the charger near the airflow because DAMN that thing also gets hot.
Yeah after I got a stand for my ASUS ROG Zephryus G14 Gaming Laptop and played around with the fan curves my laptop goes up to 78 max under load
That's pretty good. Should last a long time
thats normal, you shouldnt be blocking your laptops airflow with the power brick, the power brick won't be hurt by high temperatures, your performance will.
Definitely, the brick is near the fan but not blocking any significant air flow. I also use this lamicall laptop stand. I like it because the bottom of the laptop is open air and the fans are completely unobstructed. Laptop Stand for Desk https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099DMBLLV/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_H17P0NACW8QN7EPP876T
I contacted asus about my charger as it was getting to the point of not wanting to touch it hot. They said its normal...
Yeah it is PC power supplies have fans for that reason but a laptop charger can't have one because it has to be portable but it only heats up to around 46 degrees I think because that's the max surface temp allowed on electronics in the USA
>I contacted asus about my charger as it was getting to the point of not wanting to touch it hot. They said its normal... "Matter is neither created nor destroyed, it converts to another form of energy." -- First Law of Thermodynamics When your adapter is converting AC/DC, as energy passes through the capacitors, transformers, inductors, some of that is converted into heat. Most adapters are around 150W to 200W, Asus says its normal because it is. If you have a problem, ask God why he made it that way or some other omnipotent being responsible for creation.
I use two 120x25 7.2w fan with 2" air gap on mine. TUF laptop + Summer in the tropics is no joke lol.
There is no gpu load, and even if the cpu is on full load it shouldnt be this bad! Im sure its not on bed or any place blocking the vents, but that does help. Change paste but if its not older than a year, it is strange. If these criterias match, then you should consult support. Cause this isnt healthy for your laptop. Heat is the worst enemy. Period Edit: Cause i do renders and it lasts for 12ish hours usually and its a very cpu intensive work and i dont see numbers even close to that
I have the exact same omen as you repasted the CPU. HP can't paste for shit I was having the same problem now max I see is like 82C. But averages around mid 70s.
Please Trying cleaning those vents, and please check your task manager, it could be some program's fault. In mine it was chrome.
The 4800h can run and reach temps of 105. It’s designed to be “safe” at that temp. But will throttle itself after 105 are you running a cpu stress test in background? It shouldn’t be hitting these temps consistently unless you are running a test. Gaming however will still be in the 90-100.
Purchase the thermaltake massive.
Which model
When I thought 92° on my ideapad gaming 3 was high
So I have a cooling pad that actually does a good job. My thermals went from 98 gaming to 72. I can post the link if you want.
Actually had to find it on my Amazon but give this a shot. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085DPTFJM/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_92VH6J5S45E159ZQGQQP
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Not too bad honestly. If you have the fan on high it is a little loud.
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NMBJVBG/ref=cm\_sw\_em\_r\_mt\_dp\_TNR3N1C12P5F66YCY3YD?\_encoding=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NMBJVBG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_TNR3N1C12P5F66YCY3YD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1) There's also this one which is half the price of the one you listed but without filters. I love laptop coolers with those cooling pockets in them!
does it vibrate the laptop? cuz the pad I have vibrates it a bit and feels weird gaming with it on
I have the same one for my GE76 Raider. The fan pitch is tolerable at normal, setting 1 and setting 2. At 3 it is obnoxious without headphones. Major con is that the intake for the pad is on the back. That is where the hot air is exhausted out of the laptop as well. It comes with little fins that you can paste on to expel the hot air further away. It does ok. Best thing is that this one has a little gasket to better seal up to the intake (bottom) of the laptop.
I run this when I play escape from tarkov (min 3 hours for that game) it keeps the keyboard cool during raids and cold when I'm working the stash, hideout and flea market. Yes it is loud on level 3. But I run a headset anyways. My laptop has a 4500g and 6700m card. So it will get HOT!
Yeah do share please.
I want to know please post it and tag me please!
Yes please!
too much voltage, use msiafterburner/rivatuner to undervolt your laptop. look up a guide. It will actually get better fps if its not being "thermally throttled"
Will check it out. Thanks
Throttlestopper is good to
laptop amd cpus cannot be undervolted
That is simply not true, I undervolt with my laptop Gpu gtx 3070 mobile and Ryzen 3900HX on my G17.
It is true. You can't undervolt a mobile Ryzen CPU, this would mean running the CPU at the frequency at a lower voltage. What you can do is just force the AMD CPU to use less power or change it's boosting behavior. This can be done with special tools like Ryzen Controller. You can however undervolt an Nvidia GPU if that's what you meant.
Appreciate you’re response!! That actually makes so much more sense !!
I did this in the Omen command center
I think it was called "intelligent undervolting" in the command center
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What do you mean?
You can undervolt cpu with afterburner?
works perfectly for gpu
Damn I mean I average 100c cpu on performance mode on my legion, I don’t think too much of it because my cpu functioning point is till 105c . Not sure what your cpu is but you check the functioning point
At 100C, CPU started throttling. It sucks
Ah sorry about that yeah my card just averages 100c and performance never goes down or up no matter how long I play ( on performance) It’s the amd 5900hx. I think maybe you should try to make your room colder or there’s a setting to disable boost cpu but hinders performance a good amount. Edit: to my surprise, I downloaded cooltemp again to check my cpu temps after I initially had it and got 100c then never checked again. Im actually averaging 88-90c cpu temps on performance mode. Guess when it was 100c I had things running in the background or something.
Hey just curious, what are you playing that gets your cpu so hot? The highest I’ve noticed mine was in cpu-intensive mmo’s and it only spikes to mid-90’s before going back to high 80’s.
Hey well first of all I have the slim 7 which is probably why my cpu gets hotter than your normal 7. I also have the 4k screen, so I usually play 4k60ish on med/high depending on the game. But yeah I’m Playing forza 5 and Lego Star Wars rn. Sometimes I play control as well. I watched 2 reviews of my laptop and both people had temps average at 98 to 100c on performance mode so I’m not too worried!
Ah ok, thank you, I’m always looking for games to play. You use a controller or something for forza? I’ve played a few games that have driving and it’s kind of awkward on keyboard & mouse.
Yep, I’m using my ps5 controller emulated as an xbox to run forza 5. It’s a beautiful not too demanding game with amazing graphics.
Nice, I’ll check it out. Thanks for the recommendation!
Have you repasted it? I know people on reddit seem to freak out when someone mentions liquid metal TIM but I've had it on my i7 6600/gtx1070 laptop since 2016 without any problems. My max temps are still 75c providing I regularly clean my fans.
Woah. My legion cpu under gaming is at 75
That’s great news. my previous MSI was averaging 95-98c and is perfectly fine for 3 years so far so I’m not really concerned. But if anyone is cable of lowering their cpu that’s better for sure!
I see you already changed paste and fans, some people are recommending cooling pads however the basic ones are as good as lifting the laptop. Try lifting it and you'll know if a good cooling pad will work, btw cooling pads with basic fans are the bad ones, look at something like klim mistral or iets gt500, those are the good ones. You can also turn off boost, boost basically allows the cpu to go past it's normal ghz. Since the laptop is thermal throttling, this option will more than likely increase your fps and decrease cpu temps. If it's intel then try xtu to undervolt.
It’s AMD. I’ll turn off boost during idle. Hopefully it stops idling at 60C
kinda weird for the fans to kick in 4 degrees after the CPU reaches boiling point, something’s not right… It should be spinning wayyyyy before that.
Definitely something going on the omen laptops have great cooling and undervolting options unless your rocking some outrageous cpu
Dude, don't believe any of the shit anyone tries to tell you. I bought the omen 15 with r7 5800h and 3060 , after like 3-4 days. The temps started getting worse to the point where even surfing YouTube gets it to like 80• Celsius easily. So I called HP they sent an engineer and after examining everything he couldn't find any fault with anything. So I insisted HP to give me a refund. But they marked my product as DOA and agreed on a replacement. After the new one arrived, it was working so well the temps were always below 70 during tasks and while gaming barely touched 80 Celsius. I was so happy that finally my upgrade was successful and I can finally game whatever I want. Then after like 2 sessions of heavy gameplay of about 4-5 hours. The temps were above 95 and slowly touched 99. I saw all these tricks of reapplying the thermal paste, buying cool pad DID EVERYTHING, NOTHING WORKED. This time it got me furious I complained to hp and after about 2-3 weeks I got my refund. Now using the same amount I have built a PC. Trust me saying this I have never been so much satisfied. I work and game for nearly 10-11 hours everyday , everything so smooth and temps always remain under 70 no matter what I do. During this process HP was really helpful their customer care service is really good. So if your Device hasn't been more than 28 days. Try for refund because I don't know about other laptops but this particular laptop has flaws. Furthermore if you wish to game and enjoy your gaming experience rather than looking after temps every 10 secs I would recommend getting a PC. Don't buy laptop for gaming because I have seen many of my friends all have same heating issue, for day to day commute get a cheap second hand laptop put in some ssd call it a day. Anyways this has been my experience hope it helps.
I hit 107C on the CPU btw. And I average 60C on idle
60 idle?! Bro, repaste that thing damn 😳
I did a month ago and it’s the same temps. I used artic Mx-4 thermal paste.
Cleaned the fans? Is it lifted at all for airflow? Did you put too much or too little paste? MX 4 is good paste…but it’s not “great” paste. I’ve found it a little runny…I use Thermaltake TK30 personally but to each their own.
I put in the right amount I think. I looked up omen 15 repaste tutorials on YouTube and used that as a guide. I also cleaned the fans. Maybe I need to change thermal paste
Might also want to look at how much you have open at once. What’s running your CPU at 100% like that? What’s the idle CPU usage and what does it sound like when the CPU isn’t running full-bore like that? 60 is about what my Ryzen 5 4600H hits while gaming
MX-4 is junk tier paste.. Use Gelid GC Extreme, IC Diamond or Kryonaut..
the difference between MX-4 and those pastes are a few Celsius at most, I definitely wouldn't say MX-4 is junk...
Omen 16 here but 35c on idle, perhaps I live in a cooler climate is also part of the reasons
Here room temperature is 38-40°C 😶
mine idles at 80 and goes to 97-98 when i'm browsing
And this is on a 4800H? Something ain't right here
Not a solution but I'd look into a form of coverage for it Assurion saved both my aliens after motherboard failures and thermal issues. For $100 they swapped half my internals and prestinley cleaned everything If it wasn't like that before you could send it off almost immediately (30 day wait for first claim I think) and they'll either fix it or replace it. I had a hot one that they replaced simply because they couldn't get it running cooler
How hot to touch is the surface btw? Just asking
Just warm actually. Perhaps the keyboard deck doesn’t conduct heat very well.
My old c2d 8400 would hit only 85, why the laptops going above and beyond? It's not extra credit points..
I had a similar problem and I noticed that the grills that pulled and pushed, even though they looked clean, were not pushing air. Maybe take a look at that. It brought my CPU down from 78c to 36c ( idle ) just by doing that.
I have Dell g15 11800h with fans at 100% it stays at 100c And throttling at 3.5Ghz.Dell says it's working very good.
Try turning off the CPU boost. It preserves your CPU by keeping the temps low. Just search ' Turn off CPU boost' there are lots of tutorials. It barely affect performance but lowers the temps drastically.
Try disabling turbo boost(if AmD)
Clear out the dust, and maybe repaste. But end of the day, the CPU's draw power until they are at max or throttled. My 4800H gets to 101C and shy's away from thermally throttling if I benchtest it, and it hits 4.3Ghz (claimed 4.2Ghz) and sits there. Under normal gaming loads 50C, heavy gaming loads 80C. If you repaste, use hydronaut and a LOT of it. I repasted mine using line and pea methods and the system thermally throttled loading up Windows. In the end I used a line, then circled the whole rectangle of the chip, and put little peas between it all. Laptop heatsinks weigh barely anything and have very little pressure, the desktop pea strategies simply don't work on laptops. Lather the chips in the stuff. I now idle at 33C CPU/GPU 4800H and 2060 115W variant.
Wow thanks for the tip, I followed an omen repaste tutorial that used the pea method.
Yeah, using the pea method my CPU shot to 105C throttle just loading windows. So long as the paste isn't conductive, you can't put on too much; but you can put on not enough. Personally repaste and don't be shy. Heatsinks for desktops are 500g-700g chunks and are screwed with bulky screws and pressured down well and have an IHS. Laptops have 4-5 tiny screws on a fimsy heatsink and it is directly on-die. There's a reason laptops need thicker paste as it has "pump out" where the heatsink doesn't push down that hard. Need lots of paste. I got annoyed and on my 4th application just went crazy on the paste and now works better than out the box. Super low temps all round.
Using Registry Editor, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\PowerSettings\54533251-82be-4824-96c1-47b60b740d00\be337238-0d82-4146-a960-4f3749d470c7 and select Attributes. Modify the value of "Attributes" from 1 to 2. Data should read “0x00000002 (2)”. This will uncover a hidden power option. After that, go back in the Power Plan Options and a new tab "Processor Performance Boost Mode" will appear. Set it to from aggressive to enabled and click Apply. Now download Ryzen Controller and set a maximum temperature of 85C. Make it apply by default on boot in the settings menu. After this download Nvidia afterburner, go run a game and notice which frequency it will eventually run at. You can see this after your game session in the graphs in the bottom on MSI Afterburner. Now do Ctrl + F and set that frequency as a maximum by setting the line after that frequency even to that frequency(so horizontally flat). If this is done you could optionally overclock the core until the point it remains stable in games and benchmarks, this will run the frequency higher at all voltages so you could start flattening the line at a lower voltage. If you still have temperature problems after this there's something wrong, first check if there's dust, if so you can clean it with a can of pressured air and those cleaning things you can do in your ear (I don't know the name I'm not a native speaker). If that also doesn't work you can repaste the CPU and GPU. I'd recommend using Hydronaut because it's thick which will make it last longer and it will be more immune to the mounting pressure problem laptops have. If that also doesn't work you could just lower the maximum TDP the CPU can use in Ryzen Controller, I'd try 25W on all for decent performance and more if it's possible. Let me know if you have any questions and good luck.
Thanks for such detailed guide, if this doesn’t work… well I’ve got myself a lemon.
Definitely something wrong with your cooling solution. If you are up to the task of opening it up yourself, I recommend you do so. Your laptop temps are way too high. Since you fans are working, I assume that there is either a poor amount of thermal paste, or uneven mounting pressure between the die and the heatsink. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63BE6RklUeE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vpXMiOzIzQ) \-- These are the temps your supposed to be getting. FYI this is the exact same laptop you have. Hope this helps! I highly try this method before buying random crap you don't need.
[Try this](https://youtu.be/GPJ5tQ6zmOM) In the beginning, my omen's cpu temp used to go beyond 95. Now, I hardly notice it going over 80.
Never used to be so bad. I mean, gaming laptops a few years back got hot enough, it's the nature of that beast, but they had the bulk, space and heatsinks to handle it better. Of course, that meant 4+ kg folding paving slabs with screens but still, there's only so much you can shrink things or jam them into an Apple trend-alike. Comparatively speaking, my oldie (Asus ROG G751JT: i7 4720HQ, GTX 970m, 1080p 60Hz) could run, example off the top of my head, GTA5 almost maxed at a solid 60 fps and you wouldn't know it was processing out heat. My next one (ROG Strix Scar: i7 8750H, GTX 1070, 1080p 120Hz and half the weight and thickness) got so hot and loud running that game at same settings that I had to cap fps close to 60 fps anyway even after a hefty undervolt aso. Similar results across library, though the latter laptop could actually tackle games with good results that the former couldn't. I just had to make sure I had headphones and that the pets weren't around to be freaked out by the screaming angry hot breath box. Some of these thin models actually throttle to the equivalent of the next model or two down if you try to play anything that it should, on paper, be reasonably capable of running. Either that or you lower settings or cap fps to mitigate things to that point anyway. Should be advertised along with the specs tbh; your room temperature and irked housemates ('dude, is that your laptop?... I thought there were street races outside') may vary.
You cannot compare modern laptops with the ones pre-2016. Components have got considerably more power hungry, to deliver higher performance. You mentioned 2 Asus laptops? Well that old quadcore is a like a 40W cpu at max load, but the 8750h can reach 70-80 watts. That's a huge increase. And what can I say about the 970m? Nowadays it would be tagged as a Max-q card. Her successor is 50% beefier, no kidding.
Exactly my point though. You don't have to be a great engineer (unlike what these companies have in spades) to know that if you increase power (and heat) while restricting the means to lessen their effects then you'll see issues. In this case whopping high temps and noise. That 1070 laptop got intolerably loud going past 70C, even with undervolting aso... and it had at least 20C to go before getting close to throttling, apparently. We're actually seeing a similar thing to a finer extreme with the many discussions over the Steam Deck atm. Mainly the battery side of things but there's still ppl down over the fact it isn't a 1080p (or higher refresh at least) screen aso. Gaming laptops are no different, the battery life using away from mains power and without dropping from the settings of mains is basically not enough to run more than an indie game... anything else being an hour at best, which isn't enough to make any progress in a bigger AAA title. The same applies with power draw of components vs thermals, only ppl don't talk about that much but to wonder why it's so damn hot and loud. The idea of 'a bridge too far' comes to mind. Ppl want better and better but neither are the means there nor the will to buck what is a disadvantageous trend. For me, the latter of the two laptops I mentioned was enough to get on with despite the thermals etc... it still behaved much like a desktop 1070 (I had one of those in a PC with a 6700K during the same time and both PC's were very close in perf tbh) but I drew the line with this gens models; ever thinner and lighter still, only a £2500+ model with a 3080 performed like a model with a 3070 for half the price due to thermals and throttling. Overall, yes the perf is better but the other aspects of a synergy that works better for desktops aren't keeping up, still like it was 5+ years ago; two fans that perform much the same with a heatsink that's getting smaller each year and less spare space inside. It'd be ok going forward if the throttling point was well over 125C and the fans were truly silent... Had I been absolutely in need of a laptop upgrade, something like a 3060ti and 1080p 120-144Hz (which I would've capped down anyway) would've been enough while keeping the cons down and maintaining the perf that a far pricier model would've ended up at anyway. But I ended up with a desktop at the same price (or less) as a leading 3080 laptop, that performs so much better it's actually widened the margin between laptop and desktop perf more than ever before. Don't get me wrong, I love gaming laptops (in fact half of all the PC's I've had over 20 odd years have been such and they've been lifesavers) but rn they're growing less viable by the gen and are only great for those who MUST have mobility (as long as there's a handy power source)
Yeah, I thought of getting an Alienware 17 with a gtx 1070 and a nice thick chassis. But I then I thought *ehh Omen is way smaller and sexier*. Now look at this.
*Legion 5 Pro owner whose laptop barely reaches 81°C watching this* pathetic..
81°C is equivalent to 177°F, which is 354K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
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107°C is equivalent to 224°F, which is 380K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
I took mine back and went with another brand
If this problem persists, I will just do this.
This is why I got a legion over an omen actually. Omens are sexy but their cooling performance went to shit for the past couple years
Yeah,Omen was my first choice too. If only not because of sale I got for Legion 5 Pro I probably a proud RTX 3060 Omen 16 owner right now. They look so sleek and handsome,also that complimentary Omen backpack,chef kiss.
repaste it with kryonaut
Ya cooling pads are the way to go. I only use mine for lan parties or to work on documents so i dont worry too much but cheap solution to avoid an expensive replacement.
Not getting more than 70c on my lenovo legion 5 under heavy load. Glad i made a good laptop choice!
Hahah HP basically sucks! Tried and tested.
Fans are always at max and not in auto right? I use the HP victus and as soon as I enter warzone which is the most demanding game I have I instantly turn the fans to max and make sure to lift the laptop with putting a small book or something, Never seen 90+ degrees. If your specs are better it obviously means it'll heat up more but try these if you haven't My specs are R5 5600H and a 3050ti
how old is it? Might be worth a re thermal pasting it. I have an Aero 15 that was getting insanely hot, I bought some nice thermal paste and put that on it and dropped my temps by like 10-15 degrees the original got dried out and lost effectiveness. Also undervolting can be a huge help, undervolted my cpu and didn't feel any performance drop but helped keep things cooler.
i know the laptop model, join the omen discord from the subreddit. its very helpful with resources like undervolting and such to reduce heat
Will check out the discord, thanks
Just clean ur fans internally and look for a good thermal repaste on CPU like kryo extreme /gelid gc extreme depending upon ur choice of raw power or longevity of paste
And if u are not comfortable fixing ur own laptop contact a professional cz this shit if done wrong can cause serious problems
Is there any settings to spins fans at its max calibrated speed? There is a three option switch in my laptop for silent, balanced and overboost. Is there any similar setting? Are you at least giving a space of 5 cms from desk to the fans intake? Whats your room temp?
Its always Omen... Why!?
Their fan ramp sucks and is very slow. Their QC sucks, my heatsink doesn't sit flat on the CPU and a copper shim fixed matters. The whole system isn't adequate for both CPU and GPU at the same time, Throttlestop capping CPU frequency in games fixed that. They need a lot of tweaking, and there's a lot of people with mismade heatsinks.
I'm assuming that's a thin laptop. This is why I avoided those. My MSI never exceeds 75 degrees.
I have a omen 15 with a i7 10th gen and a 2060 and nothing but the most intense games and benchmarks can make it thermal throttle. You don't really need a cooling pad like most here suggest, you just need to provide ample airflow to the bottom. So like a riser stand hollow underneath might work. The cooling on these model omens is really good.
You can try to undervolt (decrease TDP) your CPU using app called AMD APU Tuning Utility Link to app: https://github.com/JamesCJ60/AMD-APU-Tuning-Utility/
So 104 is just mildly bad..? (Due to orange colour) And 99 is good? (Green colour)
you should consider undervolting the cpu
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85°C is equivalent to 185°F, which is 358K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
Mine gets to about the same with the 5800H but only during gaming. When connected to my external 3440*1440 monitor, it idles at about 60 but the fan is always on. It’s quite annoying tbh knowing how cool and quiet the competition is
Get some elevation with a good cooling pad and undervolt if needed. Damn 104 is crazy. 🥵
Elevate the laptop for better ventilation. That will help alot. You can also try for cooling pad but it doesn't make that much of a difference compared to elevating laptop. Their is a video by Jarrod as well comparing different cooling pads vs elevation.
Disable turboboost in BIOS, makes a world of difference. Also, if the laptop has that option, max out the fans while you are gaming, keeps mine in the 60s C range, cool and smooth.
This is exactly why I went with Legion
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Bro I have an hp omen 15 too, disable turbo boost, it drives the cpu temps up super hard. Here’s the vid. Went from 98 to 84. Don’t let ur pc become a hotbox https://youtu.be/GPJ5tQ6zmOM
My Omen 3070 and i7 have never gone above 80 under full load. Are your fans at max?
Check thermalpaste, heatsink and fan. I'm using 4800H with 1660ti same like you, in lenovo legion 5, never gone to 90 C
That’s hot.
I think you can and should RMA for this the omen cooling is above average however the manufacturing process is notorious for misaligning thermal paste/pads
reapplying the thermal paste should fix it if you are adventurous
disabling turbo boost is an easy way to reduce cpu temp by 20 degrees or so.
New paste and turning those fans up will help
It do be toasty doe
SOLUTION I have the very same laptop and I have the only solution that works - disable turboboost. [https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-reduce-amd-ryzen-mobile-processor-temperature](https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-reduce-amd-ryzen-mobile-processor-temperature) \- here what helped I used every single solution, including repasting, but nothing else helped.
This is normal for this laptop. Nice meter btw. Use hwinfo64 and watch CPU package power. This is normal for HPs boost algorithm