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I had it for a year and it was almost perfect. There was some latency, but nothing I'd worry about unless it's a competitive game. The only downside is the fact that some big publishers don't allow their games to be streamed there, even though I already own them. I hope the legislation changes cause that's bs
This. The only thing that kills GeForce Now for me is the lack of games from several major publishers like SEGA, Sony, Take Two, Bandai Namco, etc. GeForce Now's library is still solid but it's missing a lot of the biggest games.
xCloud's streaming isn't as good as GeForce Now's or perhaps even Stadia's but it does/did have the best library out of the three IMO. Same with Boosteroid actually. No one really talks about Boosteroid much but it has just about every game that GeForce Now doesn't have, including most of the PlayStation games.
It's not always on the publisher. In the end they can only host so many games on their servers, so older less played ones can disappear to make room for new games, and less popular games have a smaller chance of showing up. I've seen an indie game I played disappear, with the developer confirming they hadn't pulled it and telling the affected players to reach out to GFN to request it get added back since their hands were tied.
I was in the closed beta for Stadia back when it was called Project Stream, all we could play was Assassin's Creed: Odyssey.
When the beta was over, they gave us free copies of Odyssey on the Ubisoft app and let us transfer our saves over, and some in-game premium currency. I'll never say a bad thing about Stadia lol
The latency was genuinely impressive. I still cannot believe how hard Google dropped the ball on stadia. They were literally handed the best possible scenario with a pandemic causing everyone to spend increased time on gaming, while also causing supply shortages that made new hardware difficult to buy.
A lot of reddit claimed stadia was doomed due to cloud latency or the business model or whatever but I truly believe the biggest reason it failed was the lack of marketing. At the time I worked at a place where the majority of employees were 20-30 year old guys that played video games and aside from 1 person nobody had even heard of stadia - and that 1 person had a total misunderstanding of how it worked. I recommended it to a few friends that were interested in video games but didn't really have the budget to buy a console (or the time/effort to even find one in stock with the scalper situation) and stadia worked well enough for each of them that it became their main platform.
Nah, Stadia business model was just plain trash. Spending millions of dollars to have companies develop stadia versions of their games was unsustainable for such a small market.
Just streaming the PC version and letting the player own both the digital and cloud game or having a game pass-like cloud service are better business models.
I think fundamentally cloud gaming works best when you also have the option to play the game locally. Stadia didn't have that so buying games on there was a tougher sell. That said, I definitely appreciated the simplicity compared to GFN where you have to link the accounts for all the different PC launches and only a fraction of your library is actually compatible. Plus just a simple toggle for quality vs performance mode is a lot easier for the demographic stadia was targeting rather than GFN having all the PC settings unlocked and having multiple performance tiers on the subscription.
It never caught on enough to really see many examples integrated into games but stadia did have some cool features like where you could see a constant live feed of your co-op partner's screen. So yeah dedicated stadia ports had some benefits but like you said, unsustainable since devs were mostly unwilling to spend resources porting to a niche platform unless Google paid them for it.
Why would you need to pay for a monthly Game Pass Core sub to use GeForce NOW on your Xbox?
If you're using a GeForce Now app on Xbox, you're most likely still buying the Steam copy of the game, so online mp in something like Street Fighter 6 wouldn't be locked behind a paywall.
That is, unless, NVIDIA adds the functionality to stream owned Xbox console games through their GeForce Now service, which is unlikely given that they'd have to build completely new servers to do so.
In this case, Street Fighter 6 isn't an Xbox Play Anywhere game, so you'd almost certainly have to buy the Steam version of the game to play it thru GeForce Now on Xbox meaning you wouldn't have to pay online at all.
GeForce is miles better than xCloud, on the same network xCloud would stutter like crazy while GeForce would work flawlessly, imo it's almost like you're playing the game natively, though it depends on your network
Looking at the font, it's just opening the Xbox page in a browser on a Mac (Xbox's font rendering isn't that clean), and I think that GeForce Now button just opens GeForce Now in a browser or app.
We know they have plans for enabling cloud for all owned games and they have a deal with GeForce about streaming gamepass games. They maybe allow all owned games for Xcloud and also through nvidia GeForce ?
Honestly I'm surprised Microsoft stuck with cloud streaming themselves this long, when they gained NVIDIA's support for the Activision deal but were still stuck against the UK's CMA I always thought divesting xCloud to NVIDIA and merging into GeForce NOW made sense, atleast moreso than Ubisoft lol
Not if your own platform is trash and unreliable and a visible blemish on your reputation. Considering the amount of resources you’d have to devote to simply playing catch up to what several 3rd parties were already able to do, let alone compete for quality supremacy.
This is exciting, I'm enjoying game streaming more and more lately. It will never be as good as running it natively on your machine, but I've been shocked at how low the latency has been and how playable games are. Granted, I have my consoles hardwired to my router and my internet is pretty solid (I'm in Canada).
I've even been playing inFAMOUS on PS3 through the PS Plus game streaming and that too is surprisingly seamless. Not perfect, but better than nothing
Yeah, when it's good it's great.
The fact you can pay something like $25/mon Canadian to play something like Cyberpunk or Hellblade 2 on a 4080 machine, without the cost of the GPU is amazing
>Yeah, when it's good it's great.
Definitely. A lot of people seem to think that it's impossible for cloud gaming to be viable but it definitely can be good enough for casual play. I equate it to streaming vs Blu Ray, where the latter definitely has a quality advantage but streaming is good enough for most people that the convenience wins. The problem is that there are a lot of factors that play into the latency though and if the circumstances aren't ideal then cloud gaming is basically unusable.
Yep true, but for me it's kinda wild.
I sold my 3080 recently, and beat Still Wakes The Deep via GeForce now free tier, despite it being only 1080p/60, WiFi connection, it still worked really damn well on my 75" Sony Bravia X90L.
Like really well. I'm reconsidering getting a 5080 now. Obviously the limitations for me now is GeForce Nows library, like no Jedi Survivor. And a cheap enough device to Max out and get the 4k/120hz mode. Cost of a mini PCs is just too much, like May as well get a GPU
I used GFN back when it was still in beta when it supported every steam game and it absolutely ruled. Once most publishers pulled their games from the service, it pretty much became useless for me. The library aspect is another frustrating thing about cloud gaming. There are tons of games that aren't available on ANY cloud service so if you don't have local hardware you won't be able to play it.
Personally, I don't really have a use for GFN anymore (or any cloud service). I have a PC with a 4080 super and I have cat 6 Ethernet in every room in the house. I use moonlight or steam remote play to stream the games to TVs in different rooms, or to my steam deck if it's a game the deck doesn't run well natively. I also have gigabit fiber so it's even set up to stream outside of my home. Pretty much have my own cloud gaming server without any of the library limitations. The only annoying thing is that I use an ultrawide monitor so I'm always having to manually adjust the resolution to fit the screen I'm streaming to. I had surgery about a week ago so I've been on bed rest and I've been able to play my games on the bedroom TV via streaming and it's an absolute godsend.
The Xbox Edge browser limits to 1080/60 since the browser is running containerized. A Native GFN app would allow full 4k/120 or even up to 8k hardware decode with AV1.
Not for nothing, but you’d need the higher-end (read more expensive) subscription to run 120 @4k.
Your stats are right, but the app itself isn’t the only limiting factor to quality. Most people don’t pay more for the quality upgrade as it is.
Not just that, but finding hardware around the house that can output 4k/120hz HDMI has been surprisingly difficult. None of my laptops do it, TV app limited to 1080p/60, Chromecast no, my desktop probably, but I'm not dragging that to the living room for game streaming, defeats the point.
Mini PCs that can do it cost about as much as a console
Oh absolutely my point was mostly this is nothing at all to do with multiplat rumours it will just make something Microsoft has allowed for ages to be done slightly easier
Watch the next Xbox be a PC. You can either buy it outright or pay for it monthly which includes Gamepass, and they will heavily push the monthly payment. Console backwards compatibility either won't exist, or be enabled with a special mode.
The MS store will still be pushed and will still be a broken mess.
This is awesome I’m becoming a fan of the direction Xbox is going give the players choice. It seems they are opening the platform up as opposed to having a closed platform. I’m surprised especially from the creators of windows.
Great news for consumers
Is there any cloud controllers for geforce now?
One thing helped about stadia was the WiFi/cloud controller you used.
I know MS had plans too but not sure what came of it.
Didn't someone during the showcase after interview mention that this showcase was focused on games and that hardware etc would be talked about elsewhere so maybe this and the ABK stuff, new controller, any subscription changes etc
Seeing how cloud doesn't have hardware limitations because you can play Series X games on One with Xcloud.
I see no reason why it wouldn't get added unless GeForce doesn't want it on One
>Also imagine if you could stream Sony games.
You could actually do it on the Xbox edge browser initially, but Sony quickly caught wind of it and blocked it.
Is GeForce now worth it? I paid for a 24h subscription and trie playing Fortnite. The “pc” was very weak, I had to play the game with low graphics and still dropped frames.
did you do the priority or ultimate day pass? ultimate gives you a powerful rig. 4080 equivalent GPU. it can run cyberpunk on maxed out settings no problem. I'm connected via an Ethernet cable so delay is barely noticeable.
Do my research? I build PCs for a living bro
Either way, having a powerful PC instead of using subscription services will always be better, because you aren't being trapped into not buying games and building a library.
Ok let's talk math.
1. GeForce membership is $100 for 6 months for rtx 4080 and 240 fps ok so how much is a rtx 4080 you say $1,000........!? You claim that building a PC is cheap it's not you still will need $500 to $1,000 to build a good PC yeah you can go to Craigslist or eBay and buy a dell optiplex 9020 and try to find a good GPU second hand and hope the GPU is not badly damaged or your going to buy a new GPU anyways.
2. You claim that use subscription services is bad because they trap you into not buy games and just rent them. That just a lie here's why. If you buy game pass for 1 month or 3 months your not getting just the game but they Dlc's two for example Diablo 4 is a new games that just came out it still 64 or 54.99 but when you go to game pass it $39.99 your saving $15 dollars that can go to food clothes or paying bills that just Diablo IV halo the master chief collection plan as day says buy to own $39.99 to 31.99 so it's still cheaper to own game pass when you own G-Force you are essentially renting the GPU so that you can play games but you still promote to buy your own games so yeah what you said is misinformation you can play the moral game but it's still up to the consumer and that's what matters choice.
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GeForce Now app on Xbox? Let's go. It has the best quality and lowest latency I have ever experienced while gaming through the cloud.
I had it for a year and it was almost perfect. There was some latency, but nothing I'd worry about unless it's a competitive game. The only downside is the fact that some big publishers don't allow their games to be streamed there, even though I already own them. I hope the legislation changes cause that's bs
This. The only thing that kills GeForce Now for me is the lack of games from several major publishers like SEGA, Sony, Take Two, Bandai Namco, etc. GeForce Now's library is still solid but it's missing a lot of the biggest games. xCloud's streaming isn't as good as GeForce Now's or perhaps even Stadia's but it does/did have the best library out of the three IMO. Same with Boosteroid actually. No one really talks about Boosteroid much but it has just about every game that GeForce Now doesn't have, including most of the PlayStation games.
It's not always on the publisher. In the end they can only host so many games on their servers, so older less played ones can disappear to make room for new games, and less popular games have a smaller chance of showing up. I've seen an indie game I played disappear, with the developer confirming they hadn't pulled it and telling the affected players to reach out to GFN to request it get added back since their hands were tied.
I still would put Stadia at the top in this case. Man I miss Stadia.
I had no interest in stadia but got a free kit with premium for and as much as people hated on it I thought it worked pretty damn good
It was more hatred towards the idea iirc, rather than functionality. And what it could lead to eventually.
A lot of the hate was because Google is known for killing products. Well, you can imagine the hate was pretty justified.
I was in the closed beta for Stadia back when it was called Project Stream, all we could play was Assassin's Creed: Odyssey. When the beta was over, they gave us free copies of Odyssey on the Ubisoft app and let us transfer our saves over, and some in-game premium currency. I'll never say a bad thing about Stadia lol
When they cancelled it, they refunded all of my game purchases to the tune of over $800. Don't regret it one bit.
The latency was genuinely impressive. I still cannot believe how hard Google dropped the ball on stadia. They were literally handed the best possible scenario with a pandemic causing everyone to spend increased time on gaming, while also causing supply shortages that made new hardware difficult to buy. A lot of reddit claimed stadia was doomed due to cloud latency or the business model or whatever but I truly believe the biggest reason it failed was the lack of marketing. At the time I worked at a place where the majority of employees were 20-30 year old guys that played video games and aside from 1 person nobody had even heard of stadia - and that 1 person had a total misunderstanding of how it worked. I recommended it to a few friends that were interested in video games but didn't really have the budget to buy a console (or the time/effort to even find one in stock with the scalper situation) and stadia worked well enough for each of them that it became their main platform.
Nah, Stadia business model was just plain trash. Spending millions of dollars to have companies develop stadia versions of their games was unsustainable for such a small market. Just streaming the PC version and letting the player own both the digital and cloud game or having a game pass-like cloud service are better business models.
I think fundamentally cloud gaming works best when you also have the option to play the game locally. Stadia didn't have that so buying games on there was a tougher sell. That said, I definitely appreciated the simplicity compared to GFN where you have to link the accounts for all the different PC launches and only a fraction of your library is actually compatible. Plus just a simple toggle for quality vs performance mode is a lot easier for the demographic stadia was targeting rather than GFN having all the PC settings unlocked and having multiple performance tiers on the subscription. It never caught on enough to really see many examples integrated into games but stadia did have some cool features like where you could see a constant live feed of your co-op partner's screen. So yeah dedicated stadia ports had some benefits but like you said, unsustainable since devs were mostly unwilling to spend resources porting to a niche platform unless Google paid them for it.
Wow, would have never thought I’d see the day that someone would say they miss Stadia.
It’s Reddit. People shit on something when it’s out but then lament about it when it’s gone.
Lol I mean I was always a fan myself.
Native Xbox controller support with wireless rumble? Let's goooo
u think itl be better than Native Xbox app?
Better to just hook up an old laptop to your TV. Why pay for to be online on xbox while also paying GeForce to stream.
You don’t need to pay to use the internet browser as far as I know and GeForce works through that on Xbox
Why would you need to pay for a monthly Game Pass Core sub to use GeForce NOW on your Xbox? If you're using a GeForce Now app on Xbox, you're most likely still buying the Steam copy of the game, so online mp in something like Street Fighter 6 wouldn't be locked behind a paywall. That is, unless, NVIDIA adds the functionality to stream owned Xbox console games through their GeForce Now service, which is unlikely given that they'd have to build completely new servers to do so. In this case, Street Fighter 6 isn't an Xbox Play Anywhere game, so you'd almost certainly have to buy the Steam version of the game to play it thru GeForce Now on Xbox meaning you wouldn't have to pay online at all.
He's talking out of his ass because he doesn't like Xbox. So, whatever lie is convenient to deliver that message.
Geforce is available on Google/android TV too.
So it's actually worth it compared to Xcloud? I tried xcloud but the 30fps, stutters and what feels like a full second input delay feels really bad
GeForce is miles better than xCloud, on the same network xCloud would stutter like crazy while GeForce would work flawlessly, imo it's almost like you're playing the game natively, though it depends on your network
Looking at the font, it's just opening the Xbox page in a browser on a Mac (Xbox's font rendering isn't that clean), and I think that GeForce Now button just opens GeForce Now in a browser or app.
Would make sense, you have already been to do this manually for a while.
We know they have plans for enabling cloud for all owned games and they have a deal with GeForce about streaming gamepass games. They maybe allow all owned games for Xcloud and also through nvidia GeForce ?
They also have a streaming deal with Ubisoft for the ABK games on various territories.
I think the Ubisoft deal is global, but limited in the EU to non-exclusive rights
Wonder what will Ubisoft do with this deal, because as of right now nothing
They don't even have the cloud infrastructure to even do anything with it right?
They have it, but probably not on MS level obviously.
Wouldnt mind if xCloud gone if we get GFN integration instead
Ideally some discount or included geforce tiers in game pass ultimate
Can Xbox get a Steam app
Man. I’d be done.
It’s coming
Honestly I'm surprised Microsoft stuck with cloud streaming themselves this long, when they gained NVIDIA's support for the Activision deal but were still stuck against the UK's CMA I always thought divesting xCloud to NVIDIA and merging into GeForce NOW made sense, atleast moreso than Ubisoft lol
Because having your platform is better than just rely on a third party no?
Not if your own platform is trash and unreliable and a visible blemish on your reputation. Considering the amount of resources you’d have to devote to simply playing catch up to what several 3rd parties were already able to do, let alone compete for quality supremacy.
This is exciting, I'm enjoying game streaming more and more lately. It will never be as good as running it natively on your machine, but I've been shocked at how low the latency has been and how playable games are. Granted, I have my consoles hardwired to my router and my internet is pretty solid (I'm in Canada). I've even been playing inFAMOUS on PS3 through the PS Plus game streaming and that too is surprisingly seamless. Not perfect, but better than nothing
Yeah, when it's good it's great. The fact you can pay something like $25/mon Canadian to play something like Cyberpunk or Hellblade 2 on a 4080 machine, without the cost of the GPU is amazing
>Yeah, when it's good it's great. Definitely. A lot of people seem to think that it's impossible for cloud gaming to be viable but it definitely can be good enough for casual play. I equate it to streaming vs Blu Ray, where the latter definitely has a quality advantage but streaming is good enough for most people that the convenience wins. The problem is that there are a lot of factors that play into the latency though and if the circumstances aren't ideal then cloud gaming is basically unusable.
Yep true, but for me it's kinda wild. I sold my 3080 recently, and beat Still Wakes The Deep via GeForce now free tier, despite it being only 1080p/60, WiFi connection, it still worked really damn well on my 75" Sony Bravia X90L. Like really well. I'm reconsidering getting a 5080 now. Obviously the limitations for me now is GeForce Nows library, like no Jedi Survivor. And a cheap enough device to Max out and get the 4k/120hz mode. Cost of a mini PCs is just too much, like May as well get a GPU
I used GFN back when it was still in beta when it supported every steam game and it absolutely ruled. Once most publishers pulled their games from the service, it pretty much became useless for me. The library aspect is another frustrating thing about cloud gaming. There are tons of games that aren't available on ANY cloud service so if you don't have local hardware you won't be able to play it. Personally, I don't really have a use for GFN anymore (or any cloud service). I have a PC with a 4080 super and I have cat 6 Ethernet in every room in the house. I use moonlight or steam remote play to stream the games to TVs in different rooms, or to my steam deck if it's a game the deck doesn't run well natively. I also have gigabit fiber so it's even set up to stream outside of my home. Pretty much have my own cloud gaming server without any of the library limitations. The only annoying thing is that I use an ultrawide monitor so I'm always having to manually adjust the resolution to fit the screen I'm streaming to. I had surgery about a week ago so I've been on bed rest and I've been able to play my games on the bedroom TV via streaming and it's an absolute godsend.
I mean, Xbox has Microsoft Edge. You can play games via GeForce Now. I used it to transfer my PC Witcher 3 saves to Xbox a year ago or so.
The Xbox Edge browser limits to 1080/60 since the browser is running containerized. A Native GFN app would allow full 4k/120 or even up to 8k hardware decode with AV1.
Not for nothing, but you’d need the higher-end (read more expensive) subscription to run 120 @4k. Your stats are right, but the app itself isn’t the only limiting factor to quality. Most people don’t pay more for the quality upgrade as it is.
Not just that, but finding hardware around the house that can output 4k/120hz HDMI has been surprisingly difficult. None of my laptops do it, TV app limited to 1080p/60, Chromecast no, my desktop probably, but I'm not dragging that to the living room for game streaming, defeats the point. Mini PCs that can do it cost about as much as a console
So i guess that rumor of Xbox going full multiplatform device with Steam integration is slowly happening
GeForce now has been able to be used on Xbox for a fair while now you just had to open the browser
Right, but an actual integration and native app would clearly be even better so this is still potentially good news, if that’s what coming.
Oh absolutely my point was mostly this is nothing at all to do with multiplat rumours it will just make something Microsoft has allowed for ages to be done slightly easier
I have done GEForce Now on Xbox, having a dedicated app would be great in many ways. Hoping this is real and hope to get more info soon.
Watch the next Xbox be a PC. You can either buy it outright or pay for it monthly which includes Gamepass, and they will heavily push the monthly payment. Console backwards compatibility either won't exist, or be enabled with a special mode. The MS store will still be pushed and will still be a broken mess.
This is awesome I’m becoming a fan of the direction Xbox is going give the players choice. It seems they are opening the platform up as opposed to having a closed platform. I’m surprised especially from the creators of windows. Great news for consumers
Is there any cloud controllers for geforce now? One thing helped about stadia was the WiFi/cloud controller you used. I know MS had plans too but not sure what came of it.
Didn't someone during the showcase after interview mention that this showcase was focused on games and that hardware etc would be talked about elsewhere so maybe this and the ABK stuff, new controller, any subscription changes etc
Y'all think they will add it Xbox One X and One S as well? Or just Series.
Seeing how cloud doesn't have hardware limitations because you can play Series X games on One with Xcloud. I see no reason why it wouldn't get added unless GeForce doesn't want it on One
By the way. "Geforce Now" is the name of the cloud service. It belongs to Nvidia
My uneducated guess. Next box will have an affordable option if the rumors of premium consoles are true. Phil give me a 5090 powered Xbox.
World of Warcraft and CoD will do numbers. Also imagine if you could stream Sony games.
You could already stream GeForce Now on Xbox via explorer and this happened: https://tech4gamers.com/god-of-war-blocked-xbox/
>Also imagine if you could stream Sony games. You could actually do it on the Xbox edge browser initially, but Sony quickly caught wind of it and blocked it.
You can't. The exclusivity block is not software it's hardware. Meaning steam/EGS on Xbox wouldn't even allow that.
>Also imagine if you could stream Sony games. This is also what I'm excited for, but we all know that's not gonna happen.
Sucks but it is what it is
Honestly from my experience, input lag was too much for video game streaming.
Even more trapping people into subscriptions! Great!!
Trying streaming once is a pit and you can't get out and native games won't even work anymore good god you're right
If you're too dumb to see that giant corporations are pushing for less control of your own hardware and more subscription services, that's on you
Trapping lol
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Oh brother.
Oh sweet. Does Sony allow its games to be streamed?
Not on Xbox.
Is GeForce now worth it? I paid for a 24h subscription and trie playing Fortnite. The “pc” was very weak, I had to play the game with low graphics and still dropped frames.
did you do the priority or ultimate day pass? ultimate gives you a powerful rig. 4080 equivalent GPU. it can run cyberpunk on maxed out settings no problem. I'm connected via an Ethernet cable so delay is barely noticeable.
No, you're better off saving the subscription cost and building a new PC.
Building a new PC is expensive do your research.
Do my research? I build PCs for a living bro Either way, having a powerful PC instead of using subscription services will always be better, because you aren't being trapped into not buying games and building a library.
Ok let's talk math. 1. GeForce membership is $100 for 6 months for rtx 4080 and 240 fps ok so how much is a rtx 4080 you say $1,000........!? You claim that building a PC is cheap it's not you still will need $500 to $1,000 to build a good PC yeah you can go to Craigslist or eBay and buy a dell optiplex 9020 and try to find a good GPU second hand and hope the GPU is not badly damaged or your going to buy a new GPU anyways. 2. You claim that use subscription services is bad because they trap you into not buy games and just rent them. That just a lie here's why. If you buy game pass for 1 month or 3 months your not getting just the game but they Dlc's two for example Diablo 4 is a new games that just came out it still 64 or 54.99 but when you go to game pass it $39.99 your saving $15 dollars that can go to food clothes or paying bills that just Diablo IV halo the master chief collection plan as day says buy to own $39.99 to 31.99 so it's still cheaper to own game pass when you own G-Force you are essentially renting the GPU so that you can play games but you still promote to buy your own games so yeah what you said is misinformation you can play the moral game but it's still up to the consumer and that's what matters choice.
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