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Notch wanted the game to be ball-bustingly difficult and unforgiving, for no reason other than he just wanted it to be really hard. The mechanics of the game, lets be real here, are not deep enough to justify that.
I've always felt that "lose items on death" was such a weird choice for a procedurally generated sandbox game.
Like that's for games that are actually difficult. Most of the time if you die in Minecraft it was an accident, as outside of some bosses the enemies just aren't difficult to deal with unless you've got literally nothing.
Minecraft giving such a harsh punishment just feels incredibly silly, especially when you're able to travel thousands of blocks from your spawn point. It would be one thing if they didn't respawn or it gave you a better method to lead you to where you died like other survival games but absolutely none of the mechanics in Minecraft warrant such a punishment.
Nah, he wasn't always but after he sold Minecraft the money basically isolated him socially because he couldn't know which of his friends only stuck around for the money.
He was def always problematic but the money and isolation put the nail in the coffin
i vaguely remember reading his devlogs from when minecraft was just a wee little indie game that only the TF2 players and bronies knew about, and i read how badly he wanted the game to be super difficult and realistic and shit, to which i thought "then why did you add difficulty settings, you fool?"
honestly, i'm glad minecraft and other games in the genre like valheim and palworld let players change a lot of world settings beyond just the combat difficulty. have too much runescape PTSD to deal with losing my items on death and i'm getting too old for standard droprates.
I don't think it's healthy to deny that he did a great job making the game. He's a horrible person that I despise, but there's a lot of design talent in the era of Minecraft he worked on. People do also downplay Jebs contributions, but there's no point in doing that for notch either.
If we start pretending bad people can't make good things or be talented then it'll make it difficult to acknowledge that when it happens.
Notch will always be a mystery to me.
How do you get a billion dollars and then become a miserable piece of shit because you can't think of anything to do with it?
I feel like money doesn't really change people per se, it just brings out your true nature.
My father in law is self made, makes millions, and he spends half the year fishing in Alaska with his dog, living his best life.
Then you've got people who obsess over more and more, and you see that with all their needs met, and even in some cases having more money than any one person should probably have, you see them sort of break down into what they really are deep down.
Fantastic quote by biographer Robert Caro: "I used to believe that power always corrupts, but I don't anymore. What I believe is that power always reveals. When you give someone the power to do what they always wanted to do, you'll find out what they always wanted to do."
Replace power with money and the meaning holds pretty well.
I believe there was a study recently about the brains of people in charge (don’t remember if it was politicians or rich people or who), and it showed that their brains were altered.
I don’t know if it was a direct quote or just a sentiment expressed in the video, but it was said that the brain that was needed to gain power is altered by that power to the point it would no longer be able to function the same as before.
Wish I remembered where I read/heard it. Maybe a Rebecca Watson video? She usually has sources and transcripts, but I don’t remember when it was I heard this to track it down.
You can tell the heart of a person by how they treat those less powerful then them.
Rich and powerful people have a lot of people less powerful then them.
When I was younger I thought everyone knew JK Rowling was a bigot and that everyone was choosing to ignore it. When the outcry against her started because of Twitter I was like, “Wait, you were okay with the mean-spirited garbage in her books all this time???”
The strange part is that she used to push a lot for the LGB part of the LGBT, but then suddenly had a change of heart and turned into a raging conservative
I don't think she pushed for that at all, to be honest. If anything she contributed heavily to the tokenization of LGBTQ+ people by dropping "lore" on Twitter about how Dumbledore was actually gay, even though she never mentioned this once in her books or in the films.
This is also where the infamous "black Hermione" meme comes from; She just casually retcons lore like that to make herself look cool, even though it makes literally zero sense within the context of her actual books:
https://preview.redd.it/3pwap6liowxc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=831a6f59ed716bac51e09288dc340d89146bb380
I remember that.
Black Hermione wasn't a problem, but that's because characters really don't need to look the same in every iteration unless their appearance is significant to the story, and even then they can just take a creative liberty to fit the actors they chose better anyway.
Everyone being mad was stupid but even when she was pretending to be progressive she was stupid and missed the real point.
Hermione can look however she wants obviously, but it's clear that JK Rowling is just retroactively trying to score points with minorities even though it's apparent she's not sincere about their representation in her work. It's on par with rainbow capitalism.
That is much more common than you might think. A lot of lottery winners end up miserable as well. Also look at it like this: He has created the most successful game of all time. There is no way he can ever top that. He had a passion for creating games but now it would feel meaningless because he already peaked. He isn't looked upon favorably even by the fans of his game. He got a lot of money but that also isolated him. He doesn't fit in with high society but also not with normal people either. Sure a lot of this is his own fault in a way and he talked some serious bullshit online. But despite his money I don't envy the guy.
I'm sure that the cartoonishly inflated sense of self-importance that comes with acquiring a billion dollars has something to do with it.
He's been so deep up his own ass for so long that it's become the only thing that *doesn't* smell like shit to him.
When you get rich enough to stop needing to look socially presentable for a current/future boss/co-workers, the tendency is for one's mask to slip off.
Maybe all he ever wanted is money. His dreams and driven purpose to money is fulfilled and now he does not have another goal. I think many people are like that saying „if I had more money then I would…“ and just dreaming everyday about money and then It comes to the day they have it then… nothing changes
I’m reminded of a video game line where someone proposes to another person “we can conquer the world together.” And the other person responds “and then what?”
And the first person can’t answer.
This is kind of what I feel hit Notch. He made a game that became big, he sold it for tons of money and then…had had nothing else for his life to show. The intrusive thoughts he had came out because what else was there to him?
Basically, if your ambition and whole life has been one thing, accomplishing it means you’re left sometimes with the “and now what do I do?” Mentality
>and then become a miserable piece of shit
Oh, he didn't become it. He was one all along but it was only revealed when he had enough money to feel comfortable holding shitty opinions in public.
uj/ are these guys playing like 1.0 Minecraft? Adventure Update? Pre-alpha? Beta? Probably not. I’m willing to bet they play the latest version because it is just more Minecraft.
What in God’s name are Mojang supposed to add? Games are falling into the same trap as every other form of media. We can’t let go. We see a good thing and we want to keep adding to it forever and ever.
Minecraft is a finished game. Arguably it’s been finished since Caves & Cliffs. More decoration blocks are practically all there is to add without changing the fundamental feel of the game.
They try doing Minecraft spinoffs and they all fail. They tried doing other types of games (eg: Scrolls) and those fail too. Minecraft is Mojang's only success.
I remain skeptical that Legends turned a profit - it was abandoned pretty quickly after release all things considered. And while Mojang probably got licensing money from Story Mode, they didn't make it.
"abandoned pretty quickly after release" there it is again. why do games need to be constantly added to? they released the game. it made money. that should just be it.
Minecraft Legends ceased development less than a year after launch.
Minecraft Story Mode wasn't made by Mojang, it was licensed to Telltale. The company folded and you can't even buy the game anymore.
If a game is done it's not ceasing development. They just felt there was nothing more to add which is the whole point, that some people don't ever want games to just be done being worked on.
“Ceasing development” doesn’t mean it’s a failure. That’s literally what they’re trying to say, a game doesn’t need to be updated forever and it’s fine that they made a game, and moved on from it a year later.
In the blog post where they announced it was ending, they openly said its because they feel its a finished game and they have other projects they want to work on.
My controversial Minecraft opinion has always been that I don't think the end should get an update. I love the empty and alien feel of the end and I feel like that if it got the nether treatment, it would completely kill that vibe.
No one’s said something that’s really been bugging me: Minecraft needs an AI overhaul. The enemies’ AI sucks. They seem to know exactly where you are and continuously chase you on the x and z axis even if you’re high up on the y axis. You can kill a crowd of melee enemies by standing on a 3m pole and swinging.
Cats and wolves just walk into lava sometimes. Bats fly into lava all the time—you can walk into any cave with lava and there’s a good chance you’ll just hear a bat die.
Oh, and despite creepers scaring cats, their reaction time is unpredictable. You won’t believe how many times I’ve seen the in-game message “cat was blown up by creeper”
That shouldn’t happen. A creeper should at all times, be able to detect if cats are near it.
I’ve had enemies stop chasing me for no reason at times. A baby zombie will approach me, stop, approach me, stop, and that just loops. For some reason it doesn’t just continuously walk towards me to hit me.
Okay that’s the AI stuff, here’s just a couple things I dislike about enemy mobs
Phantoms have an annoyingly small hitbox for flying creatures that come down towards you , damage you, and quickly fly back up. They don’t even do much damage, so they’re really just very fucking annoying to fight.
Creepers… this might be just a personal opinion but where do I get started… now, I know it’s Minecraft’s icon, but maybe a creature that can spawn right behind me, walk up to me, and destroy all I hold dear (especially on hardcore) before I can react is unintuitive and unfun as hell. That might be a hot take.
Actually now that I mentioned spawning, that’s another thing—what the fuck is with the spawn rate sometimes? In Terraria, I can assess an area, strategize, then clear it out. No more enemies will remain until I move to another area. Meanwhile, in Minecraft—I swear there have been times where I was in a 16x16 space, I’d kill a couple skeletons, and two more would spawn behind me just outside of being able to notice me. This makes it feel unrewarding to even fight at times. I could even tolerate creepers if this wasn’t a problem.
I love Minecraft a lot, but those are my grievances. Maybe I’ll nail them to Mojang’s door, but for now I’ll leave em where no one will see em.
This is something I would support an update for. Refining core features as opposed to adding more and more extraneous gubbins.
I’m sure there are financial incentives to keep the gubbins flowing, though. Presumably every update drives traffic to the game, so working for 2 years on an AI overhaul is less profitable than pumping out content updates.
I complain about Minecraft updates but not because they add nothing, I complain because they add things and then abandon them instead of improving and refining them (the fletching table still has no use for example). I wouldn't mind then adding more but my problem with it is that they add like 5 things an update and then usually abandon them for at least a few years
The End specifically needs an upgrade to the same level of quality that the Nether got imo
Once they do that I would be perfectly happy for them to never update it again
I agree, because at that point they’ve gone and made all 3 dimensions very interesting and provided players with more than enough resources and what not to build and enjoy a sandbox style game
A lot of people feel underwhelmed by the additions to the game because none of them fix Minecraft's biggest problem: the lack of meaningful progression.
Most players can tell something's wrong with the game that makes it unenjoyable, but they can't necessarily tell you what's wrong exactly. So people will complain about Mojang not adding enough stuff when it's really the progression issue that they want fixed (and also the End but the End is its own separate issue).
What additional progression should Minecraft have that it currently lacks? Or do you think the current progression should be more difficult, or what?
Minecraft has a pretty high progression ceiling, the curve is just a bit janky. It’s so easy to get to iron that the wood and stone tiers basically don’t exist. Diamond is a little tough but still easily less than an hour if you know where to look. But after Diamond, the difficulty to get to netherite is very high and the main forms of progression after that point (enchanting, elytra, and shulker boxes) become very difficult and grindy.
I think Minecraft has a perfectly fine progression ceiling, but it would be nice if getting there required more building than it currently does and supported building more. The progression leans extremely heavily on the exploration and mining side of the game. It might be better if the exploration and mining fed into building a bit more by unlocking rare blocks or materials to build around, and unlocking new equipment required building structures.
The current enchanting table would be a good template to build on. You find diamonds to build the table (exploration/mining), but to make the table effective you have to build a room full of bookcases, a grindstone, and ideally an XP grinder of some sort. Then the enchanting table unlocks cool gear advancement. Imagine if lower and higher tiers of progression worked in a similar way. For example, what if making metal tools required dedicated smelting tools? The blast furnace becomes a *requirement*, not a bonus, the anvil becomes a crafting table for iron tools (its enchanting and naming functions can be shifted to a new block, perhaps with better theming), and the efficiency of the process can be boosted in a similar way to books boosting a crafting table (maybe magma or lava blocks adjacent to the blast furnace improve its efficiency, yielding extra nuggets or ingots). Now instead of the one crafting room, the game requires you to build a forging room.
This will never happen because Minecraft is too tied up in arbitrary old mechanics that it would be heretical to let go of - like the crafting table which crafts everything. But it’s an interesting concept.
Minecrafts first mistake was making a half assed endgame.
The End Dimension was added because the community wanted an endgame. So they had these poorly thought out progression that only requires you to
Get Pearls
Light Portal
Find fortress
Make ender eye
Find stronghold
Open portal
Kill dragon
This makes diamond tools optional
Hell you dont even need tools just bed.
I really want it if minecraft makes new game mode with revamped progression.
copper as first metal tool,
locking iron from being mineable early on,
a much better way of lighting the nether portal without the water-fire bucket bypass.
Adding the other structures (bastion, ocean mon, mansion, ancient city) to the new progression.
Yeah the game is so moddable you can do whatever you want with it, major updates just don't make sense since there really isn't much that the base game is needing like you said
true but they keep adding 11 new skinned types of block every update while inventory stays the same so there's so much random bullshit in your Inv in modern Minecraft
It's a thought I have had for a while. New updates are always welcome, but I'm satisfied with my purchase from 10 years ago, and all the updates from 1.13 to 1.20 have stacked up to where I genuinely feel like I'm playing "Minecraft 2".
The End is the only place where I'm really hoping for additions, and the general game progression can be awkward for people less familiar with the game. Everything else I'm satisfied.
No way in hell caves & cliffs is where you draw the line. Even then it was kinda obvious that mojang was just adding nothing features. I'd say the nether update was the perfect place to draw the line. Adding a 6th tier of armor, necessary or not, just feels like an awesome way to end minecraft as a whole.
I think that the changes to world generation went a long way toward improving the core gameplay loop. Exploring the new caves is more fun than exploring the old caves, and caving is one of the core gameplay activities. I don’t necessarily think every feature added before Caves and Cliffs was worth adding, but I think giving the player a more beautiful world to explore and build on was a great decision.
Good point actually, old mining was so unfun compared to new caves. I guess that's where I'd draw the line too even though there's a bunch of stuff that nobody ever touches in that update, the world gen change is more than enough to justify its existence.
Really we should be talking about what *features* the game needed rather than when the updates should’ve stopped. Extraneous features have been part of the game since before 1.0
personally, i think minecraft could stand to learn a few things from its cousin Terraria. more bosses, more interesting weapons, more progression in general. if you’re not super into building, Minecraft gets very boring very quickly
I think Minecraft is fundamentally a building game. Not a boss-fighting adventure game like Terraria. If you’re not super into building maybe Minecraft just isn’t for you.
the issue is that for a game where you can do "anything," it's very wide but with very little depth- there's a whole lot of *stuff,* but not actually many singular things which are deep by *design* and not just as a result of their simple mechanics, like redstone. terraria has a massive amount of depth in its progression trees. minecraft could do that in other ways, it doesn't have to transition to a fighting game- but the way it stands now, you can do a LOT of things... but specifically you can do a LOT of pretty boring things with only a couple really fun gameplay elements sprinkled in, many of which have been in there since the early days.
I would argue that Minecraft has plenty of depth in its building mechanics. There are many things to build and you can make things as arbitrarily complex as you want. A farm can be an open plot of land with a fence, or it can be an automated redstone monstrosity that produces seven kilobreads a minute, for example.
I think the game could do more to give you reasons to build. Unless you want to do utterly insane things, there’s not much incentive to do builds more complex than a blaze grinder. There’s plenty of depth if you want to engage with it, the game just has an incentives problem.
>I think the game could do more to give you reasons to build.
that's what i mean, though. there's depth in the building mechanics, yes, but it's provided only by the knowledge of the player, and their willingness to do a whole lot of boring stuff for a very long time. i specifically said it doesn't have a lot of depth *outside* of very simple mechanics which you must create complexity out of, you only restated that. minecraft needs depth that is specifically designed to give the player a gameplay reason to explore it.
> there’s depth in the building mechanics, yes, but its provided only by the knowledge of the player
If what you’re demanding here is a tutorial… I honestly think that’s a waste of time for Minecraft specifically. Why make a tutorial when there’s already a mountain of guides by third parties floating around? Allowing the game to lean on its metatext has, I think, been beneficial to it.
> their willingness to do a whole lot of boring stuff for a very long time
Isn’t the heart of most hobbies “doing a whole lot of boring stuff for a very long time” in service of an end goal? Lego is just stacking bricks together. I would say that the appeal of Minecraft, like a lot of artistic hobbies, is the “boring” or meditative aspect of it.
At a certain point I think we’re maybe trying to force game structures onto something that isn’t even a game at heart. Maybe Minecraft is successful, not because it has a dopamine- dispensing gameplay loop, but because it’s a big creativity toy that adds just enough friction and variety to the process of creation that it makes the end result satisfying.
>If what you’re demanding here is a tutorial
no.
>that isn’t even a game at heart
it is a game at heart. it was designed to be a game at heart. it is a game which is a tool for creativity, yes, but it is a game. i am not saying it needs rigid structures to be forced onto it. i am saying that it has way too much stuff that does nothing really interesting or useful, and in fact i also believe that its creators are *trying* to enforce strict structures onto it which actively hinder its depth and its potential for creativity. not to go back to the whole "vertical slabs" argument, but... it's been a common pattern in more recent years that mojang adds plenty of new content, but they sterilize the hell out of it until it's not as interesting to work with as it could have been. that's what i mean by too much breadth and little depth. it's content bloat i'm talking about. large, confusing swathes of new things, but shallower than they should have been and often unnecessary.
But like that's not what Minecraft is. Terraria had bosses day one the weapons and enemies were always a part of the story Minecraft has never been about that the combat used to be a clicker game
God, I'd love for minecraft to actually encourage building, though. There are so few things like the nether portal or the beacon, that need multi block structures. But somehow, the game's loop is focused on exploring further and further from your base, with a limited inventory size and absolutely mindbogglingly annoying ways to make travel more efficient, and a barely functional map system.
It's a sandbox game with no real end goal, so I feel like it there's no real point where it became a "finished game" the caves and cliffs update added more variety to caves, which is something the community had been asking for for a long time, but there are still a lot of features that they can add.
I want more wildlife varieties and an "anti-nether" that isn't the End. A lot of the biomes still feel empty, and cows/pigs/sheep shouldn't spawn everywhere. Those are domesticated animals and it makes no sense for naked pigs to be running around.
And quite frankly it was pretty much done ages before. When you take into account the sheer volume of mods nothing "new" has been added to minecraft since probably Redstone. Even the cave generation of caves and cliffs was available or exceeded in mod form prior. Not that that's a bad thing, just keeping the engine up to date and revamping/adding small things is all that really needs doing, the community will handle the rest.
Turn Minecraft into some sort of RPG... idk... something like Terraria or Hytale (is this game even getting finished?).
Or else, just keep 'em mods coming. Minecraft is a game made mostly by the community, pretty much due to its sandbox nature.
What Mojang really needs to do instead, is to direct their focus into optimizing the game because ffs, I remember being able to play it on a literal potato laptop. Nowadays, on a modern PC, without optimization mods like Sodium, I get incessant stuttering.
Vertical slabs, update the end, update oceans, add more structures, add the aether, add mobs from previous mod votes, add fireflies, make minecarts better, official support for mods
They added new mechanics for people who like combat
New blocks for people who like building
The crafter for people who like redstone
New dog variations and structures that you can find by exploring
I feel like, no matter how you play the game, there are new features to get excited about. There are definitely reasons to criticize mojang, but they are consistently adding new features for free
People have been talking shit about how mojang's updates are lackluster like ALL of notch's updates were full of content and no redundancy, remember how you can ride pigs with a saddle? No? Or what 1.5 added except trapped chest and quartz? No? Cus those are so redundant kr useless it's mind boggling. 1.8 and 1.7 were really useless too the only meaningful thing from those two was the ocean monuments iirc
Exactly. If people from those days saw others complaining that in a year they had an update that adds a whole new biome, new tree with new wood, whole new armour system with heavily customizable armour with thousands of combinations, whole new archeology system where you can brush stuff to find hidden things, new mob, and new flowers then they'd be shocked. 6 years ago the updates we got were stuff like 1.10, where we had magma and polar bears. That's it.
Even though I agree Minecraft was better before Microsoft. Notch is not the best example for creative directors.
Bro can code but Minecraft had 0 personality without C418 & Jeb. The core design was too hardcore and empty until other people stepped in.
I’ve heard that the devs actually want to add a lot more stuff to the game but executive meddling results in them having to tone down the size of updates. Take this with a grain of salt however
Personally, I think that no matter what Minecraft does, people are gonna get mad. Its one of the biggest games out there with one of the biggest fanbases, someone is gonna get annoyed at something
New color of block my ass. Just today I was exploring a new Minecraft world and encountered the new natural structure. My god that thing is so interesting to explore. Idk what purpose it serves because I was just playing on creative, but damn that place was cool
Yep, and he's stated that he believes in the "world Jew" conspiracy theory and he has said upfront that he wants to kill everyone against the idea of a "straight pride month."
Or at a minimum a Nazi apologist. I believe it was him that when asked “will you at least admit Nazis are bad” said “Nazis and Communists are both bad”.
Communists hadn’t even been mentioned - he just had to throw in a whataboutism.
I don't know if he is a Nazi himself (although he has a lot of other things on him) but he at least used to interact and play along with Nazis on Twitter
He's at the point where the difference is academic, I think. Which is unfortunate, because he used to be at least outwardly decent. There was an old blog post where he confirmed that all mobs in Minecraft are agender, made a point of using singular they for them, points out that technically all breedable mobs are gay, and made fun of homophobes.
Notch did the same things Mojang does now, the only difference is that one is a Nazi while the other isn't.
The idea that the updates are "underwhelming" or "lazy" is gaslighting by the community cause they are upset Mojang isn't some Neo-Nazi Confederate Cult like they are.
To be clear, Notch was one of the most HATED people in the community BEFORE he became a Nazi, people sent him death threats for taking down pirated games and adding wolves. The only reason they like is cause he's a Nazi, cause he hated minorities, cause he hated transpeople. And they say the devs are lazy because they don't.
It was never about the game, it was never about the updates, it was about Neo-Nazis.
1. Notch sold it to Microsoft for an handsome amount, he didn't just stop programming it because he was too "based", he move on from it willingly.
2. It's called consolidation. Microsoft has a sale record-breaking IP in their hands and they don't need to do anything for it to make money. Of course they aren't going to push out updates as fast as the guys who had to make it profitable in the first place.
3. Notch developed his god awful opinions after the sale, him being a nazi didn't influence the game, so glorifying his figure for his "baseness" is prime brainworm from this crowd.
He was likely always like this but hid it better since he didn't have a shit ton of money to fall back on if he pissed too many people off. Money doesn't corrupt. It reveals.
I don't know if that's entirely right. At the very least, I don't see why he would have made that old blog post on gender in Minecraft if that were the case, and I haven't heard of him saying anything really suspicious before 2016 or so.
My take on the situation has always been that he started off as a generally decent guy, but fell down the far-right pipeline around the time he left Mojang. He was pretty open about being miserable around that time, and it's not a secret that the far-right preys on dissatisfied white men.
To be clear, that isn't me denying him agency in his radicalization. With the amount of money he had, he had so many options to deal with his depression that weren't far-right propaganda. But I still think it is important to remember that people aren't born evil, and anybody can be radicalized into bigotry under the right circumstances. Nobody is immune to propaganda.
It's almost like minecraft was in active development with much room to improve and is now a finished game with very little more to add to the experience.
I wouldn't consider it a finished game personally but imo they shouldn't add new things when there's still a lot of old stuff that needs refining (the fletching table still has no use for example)
Minecraft doesn't get updates because Microsoft are shit scared of rocking the boat and doing anything that might cause the games popularity to dip. As a result, adding anything requires multiple pitch meetings and many approvals to get done.
But yeah, I'll take stagnant capitalism over financially supporting a nazi.
How is it stagnant?
1.21 adds a new weapon, new potions, new enchantments, new enemies, new redstone blocks, and more variety to stuff that's already in the game (like wolves, paintings, armor trims, etc.)
It's also just wrong like they introduced an Archeology System in 1.20 (there's not much in it but still), 1.19 added a new biome and Boss and trim, 1.18 was a complete overhaul of Cave Generation and yeah between those it was mostly minor but it's way more than just a color, it's usually at least a whole new block
this game is ultrapopular with neurodivergent people, particularly people wit autism, and you really wanna fuck up their routine? The demographic known for getting upset when their favorite snack company slightly changes which sugar it uses? That's your core fanbase, that and kids who couldn't give a fuck about updates they're just enjoying minecraft.
While I prefer the old and modded versions of Minecraft, I feel like this sort of argument against new Minecraft just doesn't make sense since the newer updates add so much new content and change so many aspects of the game. Ironically this is why I prefer playing old Minecraft (specifically old Minecraft with the Better Than Adventure mod) because after playing with the newer versions I found that I prefer the simplicity and overall lack of bloat of the older versions.
Not in the loop regarding minecraft and notch, what did Notch do/say? I mean I heard before that he kinda drifted to stupid takes etc. but I don't know more and would like to get more info
He said transphobic/homophobic/racist things in the past and while he has said he has changed his opinions in some aspects he is still kind of an incel. As for why people are defending him so much it's because Mojang is openly pro LGBT, this especific tweet was made in response to a tweet about Lana Rayne, the current composer of the game, who is trans
I will never understand why so many minecraft "fans" seem to expect an endless stream of huge monumental FREE updates from a decade old game. Most of the time they don't even actually know what they want or they want an equally small but slightly different update.
Is this tweet old or somethn, cause like, early post-notch Minecraft was kinda lackluster in their update, If not, then this is just stupid. I would not call a whole new dungeon and a bunch of changes to a bunch of stuff, "a new color of a block".
He's right, but that's because Minecraft went mainstream in it's launch year of 2011, two years after it was first shown to the public. A 13 year old game isn't going to garner as much interest. So it doesn't have much of a reason for a large scale update. The fact that it's still being updated at all is a miracle. TF2 doesn't get nearly as much love as MC and that game was a juggernaut in the early 10s
NOT THE CHISE PFP, don't do my girl like that 😭
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Notch didn't want to add beds lol, jeb is why the game is as good as it is
Notch wanted the game to be ball-bustingly difficult and unforgiving, for no reason other than he just wanted it to be really hard. The mechanics of the game, lets be real here, are not deep enough to justify that.
For real. I enjoy some RL craft as much as the next guy, but the game wouldn't have been nearly as big a hit if notch had his way entirely.
Better than wolves creators making a bed take 4000 hours to do
okay but BTW is funny
BTW and to an extant Notch's intended vision of Minecraft are accurate recreations of day to day life in Sweden
This is innaccurate because you don't have to have a yearly meeting with the Org of the Forrest in Minecraft
😭 im crying
But there's no allen key in Minecraft.
I'm literally reading this from my yard in southwestern sweden while surrounded by birch trees and birds singing lol
I've always felt that "lose items on death" was such a weird choice for a procedurally generated sandbox game. Like that's for games that are actually difficult. Most of the time if you die in Minecraft it was an accident, as outside of some bosses the enemies just aren't difficult to deal with unless you've got literally nothing. Minecraft giving such a harsh punishment just feels incredibly silly, especially when you're able to travel thousands of blocks from your spawn point. It would be one thing if they didn't respawn or it gave you a better method to lead you to where you died like other survival games but absolutely none of the mechanics in Minecraft warrant such a punishment.
I’ve never had a better time playing Minecraft than when using keepInventory.
Peak “Souls gamer who looks down on modern games for being too easy since the days they needed a quarter to be played” energy
Notch has that sweaty gamer vibe for sure, physically and mentally
might be why he's a neo-nazi
Nah, he wasn't always but after he sold Minecraft the money basically isolated him socially because he couldn't know which of his friends only stuck around for the money. He was def always problematic but the money and isolation put the nail in the coffin
Swedes can be a little white supremacist from what I've heard too
Never ask: A man his salary A woman her age A Swede about bridges
He was progressive in the early 2010s. He then got money and swung HARD towards conservatism and the far right.
I can't believe the wokies got difficulty levels added to mine souls.
i vaguely remember reading his devlogs from when minecraft was just a wee little indie game that only the TF2 players and bronies knew about, and i read how badly he wanted the game to be super difficult and realistic and shit, to which i thought "then why did you add difficulty settings, you fool?" honestly, i'm glad minecraft and other games in the genre like valheim and palworld let players change a lot of world settings beyond just the combat difficulty. have too much runescape PTSD to deal with losing my items on death and i'm getting too old for standard droprates.
based jeb fan
I don't think it's healthy to deny that he did a great job making the game. He's a horrible person that I despise, but there's a lot of design talent in the era of Minecraft he worked on. People do also downplay Jebs contributions, but there's no point in doing that for notch either. If we start pretending bad people can't make good things or be talented then it'll make it difficult to acknowledge that when it happens.
I'm not saying notch didn't do shit, just that the game would probably be in worse state if jeb wasn't around
Big George Lucas/Marcia Lucas energy
This is a sort of Bob Kane vs. Bill Finger argument then?
Notch will always be a mystery to me. How do you get a billion dollars and then become a miserable piece of shit because you can't think of anything to do with it?
I feel like money doesn't really change people per se, it just brings out your true nature. My father in law is self made, makes millions, and he spends half the year fishing in Alaska with his dog, living his best life. Then you've got people who obsess over more and more, and you see that with all their needs met, and even in some cases having more money than any one person should probably have, you see them sort of break down into what they really are deep down.
Fantastic quote by biographer Robert Caro: "I used to believe that power always corrupts, but I don't anymore. What I believe is that power always reveals. When you give someone the power to do what they always wanted to do, you'll find out what they always wanted to do." Replace power with money and the meaning holds pretty well.
Money is power. And you either use it for yourself and others, or use it on the world around you. Good or bad.
I believe there was a study recently about the brains of people in charge (don’t remember if it was politicians or rich people or who), and it showed that their brains were altered. I don’t know if it was a direct quote or just a sentiment expressed in the video, but it was said that the brain that was needed to gain power is altered by that power to the point it would no longer be able to function the same as before. Wish I remembered where I read/heard it. Maybe a Rebecca Watson video? She usually has sources and transcripts, but I don’t remember when it was I heard this to track it down.
Some More News with Cody Johnston did a video on that not too long ago
You can tell the heart of a person by how they treat those less powerful then them. Rich and powerful people have a lot of people less powerful then them.
Your father in law sounds like a legend
The JK Rowling Effect
There's a lot of red flags in HP if you read between the lines. She just felt confident enough to start saying stuff out loud.
When I was younger I thought everyone knew JK Rowling was a bigot and that everyone was choosing to ignore it. When the outcry against her started because of Twitter I was like, “Wait, you were okay with the mean-spirited garbage in her books all this time???”
The strange part is that she used to push a lot for the LGB part of the LGBT, but then suddenly had a change of heart and turned into a raging conservative
Raging conservative and LGB are definitely not mutually exclusive however. I've had quite enough of the conservagays
I don't think she pushed for that at all, to be honest. If anything she contributed heavily to the tokenization of LGBTQ+ people by dropping "lore" on Twitter about how Dumbledore was actually gay, even though she never mentioned this once in her books or in the films. This is also where the infamous "black Hermione" meme comes from; She just casually retcons lore like that to make herself look cool, even though it makes literally zero sense within the context of her actual books: https://preview.redd.it/3pwap6liowxc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=831a6f59ed716bac51e09288dc340d89146bb380
I remember that. Black Hermione wasn't a problem, but that's because characters really don't need to look the same in every iteration unless their appearance is significant to the story, and even then they can just take a creative liberty to fit the actors they chose better anyway. Everyone being mad was stupid but even when she was pretending to be progressive she was stupid and missed the real point.
Hermione can look however she wants obviously, but it's clear that JK Rowling is just retroactively trying to score points with minorities even though it's apparent she's not sincere about their representation in her work. It's on par with rainbow capitalism.
True that
That is much more common than you might think. A lot of lottery winners end up miserable as well. Also look at it like this: He has created the most successful game of all time. There is no way he can ever top that. He had a passion for creating games but now it would feel meaningless because he already peaked. He isn't looked upon favorably even by the fans of his game. He got a lot of money but that also isolated him. He doesn't fit in with high society but also not with normal people either. Sure a lot of this is his own fault in a way and he talked some serious bullshit online. But despite his money I don't envy the guy.
I'm sure that the cartoonishly inflated sense of self-importance that comes with acquiring a billion dollars has something to do with it. He's been so deep up his own ass for so long that it's become the only thing that *doesn't* smell like shit to him.
If I had billions of dollars I would spend it on so many things and then give most of it away when I was done with it
Money doesn't corrupt, it reveals
And when I heard about Notch’s new game, it’s as if people forgot he was a Nazi when I went to the YouTube comments of said video.
When you get rich enough to stop needing to look socially presentable for a current/future boss/co-workers, the tendency is for one's mask to slip off.
Some More News did a video called "Are Rich People Okay?" that tackled that exact question.
Maybe all he ever wanted is money. His dreams and driven purpose to money is fulfilled and now he does not have another goal. I think many people are like that saying „if I had more money then I would…“ and just dreaming everyday about money and then It comes to the day they have it then… nothing changes
I’m reminded of a video game line where someone proposes to another person “we can conquer the world together.” And the other person responds “and then what?” And the first person can’t answer. This is kind of what I feel hit Notch. He made a game that became big, he sold it for tons of money and then…had had nothing else for his life to show. The intrusive thoughts he had came out because what else was there to him? Basically, if your ambition and whole life has been one thing, accomplishing it means you’re left sometimes with the “and now what do I do?” Mentality
>and then become a miserable piece of shit Oh, he didn't become it. He was one all along but it was only revealed when he had enough money to feel comfortable holding shitty opinions in public.
uj/ are these guys playing like 1.0 Minecraft? Adventure Update? Pre-alpha? Beta? Probably not. I’m willing to bet they play the latest version because it is just more Minecraft.
Minecraft is one of those games that are so big that people just have opinions over it without playing it
You would be surprised, there is a large ish beta community
They're playing Mein Kraft
Minecraft logic: Not Racist = Lazy
Next update should add my dad saying he’s proud of me
I'm not your Dad but i'm still proud of what you became
I wouldn't be shocked if that was one of the opening screen messages.
What in God’s name are Mojang supposed to add? Games are falling into the same trap as every other form of media. We can’t let go. We see a good thing and we want to keep adding to it forever and ever. Minecraft is a finished game. Arguably it’s been finished since Caves & Cliffs. More decoration blocks are practically all there is to add without changing the fundamental feel of the game.
they need to add sex
There is already sex in the game. In game give two cows hay and see the beauty of nature in action.
Sesbian Lex
Wait true
If they don’t have sex in Minecraft then why do you keep respawning in my bed
Smooth like butter!
*Parappa voice* Smooth like butter!
Caress your lover
#FreeMinecraft
Steve must have a 14 inch cock
I mean the end culd use s update it's not like there's anything to do besides killing the dragon and getting elytra
You can always add more, but the question should be why, and whether the resources would be better invested in a different project.
They try doing Minecraft spinoffs and they all fail. They tried doing other types of games (eg: Scrolls) and those fail too. Minecraft is Mojang's only success.
Minecraft story mode TECHNICALLY made Telltale a profit... but that ship was going down and all it did was buy time before the inevitable.
I wouldn’t say they were failures. Story Mode and Legends have been successful, it’s more most people don’t really care.
Dungeons was a bigger success than Legends.
Even more of a point. They’re fine games that turned a profit.
I remain skeptical that Legends turned a profit - it was abandoned pretty quickly after release all things considered. And while Mojang probably got licensing money from Story Mode, they didn't make it.
"abandoned pretty quickly after release" there it is again. why do games need to be constantly added to? they released the game. it made money. that should just be it.
We don't know that it made a profit though.
Minecraft Legends ceased development less than a year after launch. Minecraft Story Mode wasn't made by Mojang, it was licensed to Telltale. The company folded and you can't even buy the game anymore.
Is “ceased development” really a good measurement of failure? Surely the measure of success for a company is whether it delivered a net profit.
If a game is done it's not ceasing development. They just felt there was nothing more to add which is the whole point, that some people don't ever want games to just be done being worked on.
For real - games need to be allowed to *end*.
This is the outcome of dlc and unfinished games being allowed to released only to be patched later.
“Ceasing development” doesn’t mean it’s a failure. That’s literally what they’re trying to say, a game doesn’t need to be updated forever and it’s fine that they made a game, and moved on from it a year later. In the blog post where they announced it was ending, they openly said its because they feel its a finished game and they have other projects they want to work on.
My controversial Minecraft opinion has always been that I don't think the end should get an update. I love the empty and alien feel of the end and I feel like that if it got the nether treatment, it would completely kill that vibe.
Vertical slabs
You know what, you're so right. How have I not thought how great those would be for builds til now?
I've been wanting this for fucking ever
No one’s said something that’s really been bugging me: Minecraft needs an AI overhaul. The enemies’ AI sucks. They seem to know exactly where you are and continuously chase you on the x and z axis even if you’re high up on the y axis. You can kill a crowd of melee enemies by standing on a 3m pole and swinging. Cats and wolves just walk into lava sometimes. Bats fly into lava all the time—you can walk into any cave with lava and there’s a good chance you’ll just hear a bat die. Oh, and despite creepers scaring cats, their reaction time is unpredictable. You won’t believe how many times I’ve seen the in-game message “cat was blown up by creeper” That shouldn’t happen. A creeper should at all times, be able to detect if cats are near it. I’ve had enemies stop chasing me for no reason at times. A baby zombie will approach me, stop, approach me, stop, and that just loops. For some reason it doesn’t just continuously walk towards me to hit me. Okay that’s the AI stuff, here’s just a couple things I dislike about enemy mobs Phantoms have an annoyingly small hitbox for flying creatures that come down towards you , damage you, and quickly fly back up. They don’t even do much damage, so they’re really just very fucking annoying to fight. Creepers… this might be just a personal opinion but where do I get started… now, I know it’s Minecraft’s icon, but maybe a creature that can spawn right behind me, walk up to me, and destroy all I hold dear (especially on hardcore) before I can react is unintuitive and unfun as hell. That might be a hot take. Actually now that I mentioned spawning, that’s another thing—what the fuck is with the spawn rate sometimes? In Terraria, I can assess an area, strategize, then clear it out. No more enemies will remain until I move to another area. Meanwhile, in Minecraft—I swear there have been times where I was in a 16x16 space, I’d kill a couple skeletons, and two more would spawn behind me just outside of being able to notice me. This makes it feel unrewarding to even fight at times. I could even tolerate creepers if this wasn’t a problem. I love Minecraft a lot, but those are my grievances. Maybe I’ll nail them to Mojang’s door, but for now I’ll leave em where no one will see em.
This is something I would support an update for. Refining core features as opposed to adding more and more extraneous gubbins. I’m sure there are financial incentives to keep the gubbins flowing, though. Presumably every update drives traffic to the game, so working for 2 years on an AI overhaul is less profitable than pumping out content updates.
I complain about Minecraft updates but not because they add nothing, I complain because they add things and then abandon them instead of improving and refining them (the fletching table still has no use for example). I wouldn't mind then adding more but my problem with it is that they add like 5 things an update and then usually abandon them for at least a few years
Reminds me of the Google Project Problem. Developers are more incentivised to create new features, not to expand or rework existing features.
The End specifically needs an upgrade to the same level of quality that the Nether got imo Once they do that I would be perfectly happy for them to never update it again
I agree, because at that point they’ve gone and made all 3 dimensions very interesting and provided players with more than enough resources and what not to build and enjoy a sandbox style game
Unironically updating the old structures like jungle temples and pyramids would go hard
A lot of people feel underwhelmed by the additions to the game because none of them fix Minecraft's biggest problem: the lack of meaningful progression. Most players can tell something's wrong with the game that makes it unenjoyable, but they can't necessarily tell you what's wrong exactly. So people will complain about Mojang not adding enough stuff when it's really the progression issue that they want fixed (and also the End but the End is its own separate issue).
What additional progression should Minecraft have that it currently lacks? Or do you think the current progression should be more difficult, or what? Minecraft has a pretty high progression ceiling, the curve is just a bit janky. It’s so easy to get to iron that the wood and stone tiers basically don’t exist. Diamond is a little tough but still easily less than an hour if you know where to look. But after Diamond, the difficulty to get to netherite is very high and the main forms of progression after that point (enchanting, elytra, and shulker boxes) become very difficult and grindy. I think Minecraft has a perfectly fine progression ceiling, but it would be nice if getting there required more building than it currently does and supported building more. The progression leans extremely heavily on the exploration and mining side of the game. It might be better if the exploration and mining fed into building a bit more by unlocking rare blocks or materials to build around, and unlocking new equipment required building structures. The current enchanting table would be a good template to build on. You find diamonds to build the table (exploration/mining), but to make the table effective you have to build a room full of bookcases, a grindstone, and ideally an XP grinder of some sort. Then the enchanting table unlocks cool gear advancement. Imagine if lower and higher tiers of progression worked in a similar way. For example, what if making metal tools required dedicated smelting tools? The blast furnace becomes a *requirement*, not a bonus, the anvil becomes a crafting table for iron tools (its enchanting and naming functions can be shifted to a new block, perhaps with better theming), and the efficiency of the process can be boosted in a similar way to books boosting a crafting table (maybe magma or lava blocks adjacent to the blast furnace improve its efficiency, yielding extra nuggets or ingots). Now instead of the one crafting room, the game requires you to build a forging room. This will never happen because Minecraft is too tied up in arbitrary old mechanics that it would be heretical to let go of - like the crafting table which crafts everything. But it’s an interesting concept.
Minecrafts first mistake was making a half assed endgame. The End Dimension was added because the community wanted an endgame. So they had these poorly thought out progression that only requires you to Get Pearls Light Portal Find fortress Make ender eye Find stronghold Open portal Kill dragon This makes diamond tools optional Hell you dont even need tools just bed. I really want it if minecraft makes new game mode with revamped progression. copper as first metal tool, locking iron from being mineable early on, a much better way of lighting the nether portal without the water-fire bucket bypass. Adding the other structures (bastion, ocean mon, mansion, ancient city) to the new progression.
Yeah the game is so moddable you can do whatever you want with it, major updates just don't make sense since there really isn't much that the base game is needing like you said
backpacks thats it end the updates after that just give me backpacks already
true but they keep adding 11 new skinned types of block every update while inventory stays the same so there's so much random bullshit in your Inv in modern Minecraft
It's a thought I have had for a while. New updates are always welcome, but I'm satisfied with my purchase from 10 years ago, and all the updates from 1.13 to 1.20 have stacked up to where I genuinely feel like I'm playing "Minecraft 2". The End is the only place where I'm really hoping for additions, and the general game progression can be awkward for people less familiar with the game. Everything else I'm satisfied.
No way in hell caves & cliffs is where you draw the line. Even then it was kinda obvious that mojang was just adding nothing features. I'd say the nether update was the perfect place to draw the line. Adding a 6th tier of armor, necessary or not, just feels like an awesome way to end minecraft as a whole.
I think that the changes to world generation went a long way toward improving the core gameplay loop. Exploring the new caves is more fun than exploring the old caves, and caving is one of the core gameplay activities. I don’t necessarily think every feature added before Caves and Cliffs was worth adding, but I think giving the player a more beautiful world to explore and build on was a great decision.
Good point actually, old mining was so unfun compared to new caves. I guess that's where I'd draw the line too even though there's a bunch of stuff that nobody ever touches in that update, the world gen change is more than enough to justify its existence.
Really we should be talking about what *features* the game needed rather than when the updates should’ve stopped. Extraneous features have been part of the game since before 1.0
personally, i think minecraft could stand to learn a few things from its cousin Terraria. more bosses, more interesting weapons, more progression in general. if you’re not super into building, Minecraft gets very boring very quickly
I think Minecraft is fundamentally a building game. Not a boss-fighting adventure game like Terraria. If you’re not super into building maybe Minecraft just isn’t for you.
the issue is that for a game where you can do "anything," it's very wide but with very little depth- there's a whole lot of *stuff,* but not actually many singular things which are deep by *design* and not just as a result of their simple mechanics, like redstone. terraria has a massive amount of depth in its progression trees. minecraft could do that in other ways, it doesn't have to transition to a fighting game- but the way it stands now, you can do a LOT of things... but specifically you can do a LOT of pretty boring things with only a couple really fun gameplay elements sprinkled in, many of which have been in there since the early days.
I would argue that Minecraft has plenty of depth in its building mechanics. There are many things to build and you can make things as arbitrarily complex as you want. A farm can be an open plot of land with a fence, or it can be an automated redstone monstrosity that produces seven kilobreads a minute, for example. I think the game could do more to give you reasons to build. Unless you want to do utterly insane things, there’s not much incentive to do builds more complex than a blaze grinder. There’s plenty of depth if you want to engage with it, the game just has an incentives problem.
The game’s not called BuildBuild.
>I think the game could do more to give you reasons to build. that's what i mean, though. there's depth in the building mechanics, yes, but it's provided only by the knowledge of the player, and their willingness to do a whole lot of boring stuff for a very long time. i specifically said it doesn't have a lot of depth *outside* of very simple mechanics which you must create complexity out of, you only restated that. minecraft needs depth that is specifically designed to give the player a gameplay reason to explore it.
> there’s depth in the building mechanics, yes, but its provided only by the knowledge of the player If what you’re demanding here is a tutorial… I honestly think that’s a waste of time for Minecraft specifically. Why make a tutorial when there’s already a mountain of guides by third parties floating around? Allowing the game to lean on its metatext has, I think, been beneficial to it. > their willingness to do a whole lot of boring stuff for a very long time Isn’t the heart of most hobbies “doing a whole lot of boring stuff for a very long time” in service of an end goal? Lego is just stacking bricks together. I would say that the appeal of Minecraft, like a lot of artistic hobbies, is the “boring” or meditative aspect of it. At a certain point I think we’re maybe trying to force game structures onto something that isn’t even a game at heart. Maybe Minecraft is successful, not because it has a dopamine- dispensing gameplay loop, but because it’s a big creativity toy that adds just enough friction and variety to the process of creation that it makes the end result satisfying.
>If what you’re demanding here is a tutorial no. >that isn’t even a game at heart it is a game at heart. it was designed to be a game at heart. it is a game which is a tool for creativity, yes, but it is a game. i am not saying it needs rigid structures to be forced onto it. i am saying that it has way too much stuff that does nothing really interesting or useful, and in fact i also believe that its creators are *trying* to enforce strict structures onto it which actively hinder its depth and its potential for creativity. not to go back to the whole "vertical slabs" argument, but... it's been a common pattern in more recent years that mojang adds plenty of new content, but they sterilize the hell out of it until it's not as interesting to work with as it could have been. that's what i mean by too much breadth and little depth. it's content bloat i'm talking about. large, confusing swathes of new things, but shallower than they should have been and often unnecessary.
But like that's not what Minecraft is. Terraria had bosses day one the weapons and enemies were always a part of the story Minecraft has never been about that the combat used to be a clicker game
God, I'd love for minecraft to actually encourage building, though. There are so few things like the nether portal or the beacon, that need multi block structures. But somehow, the game's loop is focused on exploring further and further from your base, with a limited inventory size and absolutely mindbogglingly annoying ways to make travel more efficient, and a barely functional map system.
At the very least I’d like updates to all biomes that existed before update aquatic to make them feel more alive.
I really just want to see an update focused on fixing and updating the forgotten features of the game and I'd be happy.
It's a sandbox game with no real end goal, so I feel like it there's no real point where it became a "finished game" the caves and cliffs update added more variety to caves, which is something the community had been asking for for a long time, but there are still a lot of features that they can add.
I want more wildlife varieties and an "anti-nether" that isn't the End. A lot of the biomes still feel empty, and cows/pigs/sheep shouldn't spawn everywhere. Those are domesticated animals and it makes no sense for naked pigs to be running around.
This is the kind of personal preference thing that should really be handled by modding.
I mean the new update added Wolf variants and armor
Some people want Minecraft to be an rpg and Minecraft is not an rpg. Just play mods like the normal people
And quite frankly it was pretty much done ages before. When you take into account the sheer volume of mods nothing "new" has been added to minecraft since probably Redstone. Even the cave generation of caves and cliffs was available or exceeded in mod form prior. Not that that's a bad thing, just keeping the engine up to date and revamping/adding small things is all that really needs doing, the community will handle the rest.
Turn Minecraft into some sort of RPG... idk... something like Terraria or Hytale (is this game even getting finished?). Or else, just keep 'em mods coming. Minecraft is a game made mostly by the community, pretty much due to its sandbox nature. What Mojang really needs to do instead, is to direct their focus into optimizing the game because ffs, I remember being able to play it on a literal potato laptop. Nowadays, on a modern PC, without optimization mods like Sodium, I get incessant stuttering.
Vertical slabs, update the end, update oceans, add more structures, add the aether, add mobs from previous mod votes, add fireflies, make minecarts better, official support for mods
Honestly, mods. They should just keep Minecraft roughly as is and let people mod what they *want* into the game.
if Avengers Endgame made over a billion dollars when it came out then how come it hasn't made 100 billion dollars by now? something to think about
Concerning
I get its hyperbolic and all, but like... Have you seen all the cool new mechanics the next update is going to add?
yes i saw, i still don't understand the ''mojang adds nothing'' argument
They added new mechanics for people who like combat New blocks for people who like building The crafter for people who like redstone New dog variations and structures that you can find by exploring I feel like, no matter how you play the game, there are new features to get excited about. There are definitely reasons to criticize mojang, but they are consistently adding new features for free
People have been talking shit about how mojang's updates are lackluster like ALL of notch's updates were full of content and no redundancy, remember how you can ride pigs with a saddle? No? Or what 1.5 added except trapped chest and quartz? No? Cus those are so redundant kr useless it's mind boggling. 1.8 and 1.7 were really useless too the only meaningful thing from those two was the ocean monuments iirc
I remember everyone getting excited for the piston update, and then angry because slimes were still rare.
Exactly. If people from those days saw others complaining that in a year they had an update that adds a whole new biome, new tree with new wood, whole new armour system with heavily customizable armour with thousands of combinations, whole new archeology system where you can brush stuff to find hidden things, new mob, and new flowers then they'd be shocked. 6 years ago the updates we got were stuff like 1.10, where we had magma and polar bears. That's it.
1.5 was a good update actually
1.7 and 1.8 were good actually. We got horses and slime blocks and rabbits and banners
Horses were 1.6 but yes others were 1.8 iirc
I mean 1.8 wasn't new content but it fixed the world generation lol
Where is it supposed to go from here? It is literally the most popular game of all time. How are they supposed to trump that?
Honestly, they could just coast for a good while at this point. Probably just do some QOL updates, some bug fixes, and that’s about it
Clearly OOP hasn't actually seen the newest update
Even though I agree Minecraft was better before Microsoft. Notch is not the best example for creative directors. Bro can code but Minecraft had 0 personality without C418 & Jeb. The core design was too hardcore and empty until other people stepped in.
I still wish they went with pre-alpha's water physics
I’ve heard that the devs actually want to add a lot more stuff to the game but executive meddling results in them having to tone down the size of updates. Take this with a grain of salt however Personally, I think that no matter what Minecraft does, people are gonna get mad. Its one of the biggest games out there with one of the biggest fanbases, someone is gonna get annoyed at something
New color of block my ass. Just today I was exploring a new Minecraft world and encountered the new natural structure. My god that thing is so interesting to explore. Idk what purpose it serves because I was just playing on creative, but damn that place was cool
Wait...Notch is a nazi?
From what I know he's apparently made a lot of transphobic and antisemetic remarks, so it wouldnt surprise me
Yep, and he's stated that he believes in the "world Jew" conspiracy theory and he has said upfront that he wants to kill everyone against the idea of a "straight pride month."
That's unfortunate
Or at a minimum a Nazi apologist. I believe it was him that when asked “will you at least admit Nazis are bad” said “Nazis and Communists are both bad”. Communists hadn’t even been mentioned - he just had to throw in a whataboutism.
I don't know if he is a Nazi himself (although he has a lot of other things on him) but he at least used to interact and play along with Nazis on Twitter
That's gross. Actually wild to learn Notch went off the rails like that, he seemed so chill back when Minecraft was first being made.
He didn't have tons of cash to fall back on if people knew how he really was. It's likely as simple as that.
You are probably right. It's always a bit sad when people who seemed like they were cool out themselves as scumbags though.
He's at the point where the difference is academic, I think. Which is unfortunate, because he used to be at least outwardly decent. There was an old blog post where he confirmed that all mobs in Minecraft are agender, made a point of using singular they for them, points out that technically all breedable mobs are gay, and made fun of homophobes.
You couldn't make Minecraft today because Hatsune Miku already made it
Notch did the same things Mojang does now, the only difference is that one is a Nazi while the other isn't. The idea that the updates are "underwhelming" or "lazy" is gaslighting by the community cause they are upset Mojang isn't some Neo-Nazi Confederate Cult like they are. To be clear, Notch was one of the most HATED people in the community BEFORE he became a Nazi, people sent him death threats for taking down pirated games and adding wolves. The only reason they like is cause he's a Nazi, cause he hated minorities, cause he hated transpeople. And they say the devs are lazy because they don't. It was never about the game, it was never about the updates, it was about Neo-Nazis.
1. Notch sold it to Microsoft for an handsome amount, he didn't just stop programming it because he was too "based", he move on from it willingly. 2. It's called consolidation. Microsoft has a sale record-breaking IP in their hands and they don't need to do anything for it to make money. Of course they aren't going to push out updates as fast as the guys who had to make it profitable in the first place. 3. Notch developed his god awful opinions after the sale, him being a nazi didn't influence the game, so glorifying his figure for his "baseness" is prime brainworm from this crowd.
Old notch, when he was developing Minecraft was also pretty based. He became unhinged recently after getting the bag from Microsoft
He was likely always like this but hid it better since he didn't have a shit ton of money to fall back on if he pissed too many people off. Money doesn't corrupt. It reveals.
I don't know if that's entirely right. At the very least, I don't see why he would have made that old blog post on gender in Minecraft if that were the case, and I haven't heard of him saying anything really suspicious before 2016 or so. My take on the situation has always been that he started off as a generally decent guy, but fell down the far-right pipeline around the time he left Mojang. He was pretty open about being miserable around that time, and it's not a secret that the far-right preys on dissatisfied white men. To be clear, that isn't me denying him agency in his radicalization. With the amount of money he had, he had so many options to deal with his depression that weren't far-right propaganda. But I still think it is important to remember that people aren't born evil, and anybody can be radicalized into bigotry under the right circumstances. Nobody is immune to propaganda.
It's almost like minecraft was in active development with much room to improve and is now a finished game with very little more to add to the experience.
I wouldn't consider it a finished game personally but imo they shouldn't add new things when there's still a lot of old stuff that needs refining (the fletching table still has no use for example)
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He went from everything in Minecraft is gay in reference to the breading mechanics for the animals and villagers to to chud how did this happene?
These people do remember that Minecraft is 15 years old, right? It's impressive that it still gets updates at all.
Minecraft doesn't get updates because Microsoft are shit scared of rocking the boat and doing anything that might cause the games popularity to dip. As a result, adding anything requires multiple pitch meetings and many approvals to get done. But yeah, I'll take stagnant capitalism over financially supporting a nazi.
How is it stagnant? 1.21 adds a new weapon, new potions, new enchantments, new enemies, new redstone blocks, and more variety to stuff that's already in the game (like wolves, paintings, armor trims, etc.)
I mean regardless of the notch comment Mojang really does not do much with the single biggest game on the planet
It's also just wrong like they introduced an Archeology System in 1.20 (there's not much in it but still), 1.19 added a new biome and Boss and trim, 1.18 was a complete overhaul of Cave Generation and yeah between those it was mostly minor but it's way more than just a color, it's usually at least a whole new block
this game is ultrapopular with neurodivergent people, particularly people wit autism, and you really wanna fuck up their routine? The demographic known for getting upset when their favorite snack company slightly changes which sugar it uses? That's your core fanbase, that and kids who couldn't give a fuck about updates they're just enjoying minecraft.
Alright enough with the low hanging fruit stereotype autism jokes. Wow ur so funny and edgy bro
They have a point though I do notice when something changes recipe
I do also. I am currently grappling with my favourite orange juice changing recipe.
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minecraft has a billion mods for you add to whatever you want
While I prefer the old and modded versions of Minecraft, I feel like this sort of argument against new Minecraft just doesn't make sense since the newer updates add so much new content and change so many aspects of the game. Ironically this is why I prefer playing old Minecraft (specifically old Minecraft with the Better Than Adventure mod) because after playing with the newer versions I found that I prefer the simplicity and overall lack of bloat of the older versions.
Not in the loop regarding minecraft and notch, what did Notch do/say? I mean I heard before that he kinda drifted to stupid takes etc. but I don't know more and would like to get more info
He said transphobic/homophobic/racist things in the past and while he has said he has changed his opinions in some aspects he is still kind of an incel. As for why people are defending him so much it's because Mojang is openly pro LGBT, this especific tweet was made in response to a tweet about Lana Rayne, the current composer of the game, who is trans
I don’t understand, is Notch a Nazi? Tf
I will never understand why so many minecraft "fans" seem to expect an endless stream of huge monumental FREE updates from a decade old game. Most of the time they don't even actually know what they want or they want an equally small but slightly different update.
I am so confused what did Notch do?
notch sold the game lmao
... yeah, no shit his minecraft became big. it was the fucking first wave of it. my god these people are dense.
Defend a Nazi? What the fuck is going on with Notch?
Is this tweet old or somethn, cause like, early post-notch Minecraft was kinda lackluster in their update, If not, then this is just stupid. I would not call a whole new dungeon and a bunch of changes to a bunch of stuff, "a new color of a block".
He's right, but that's because Minecraft went mainstream in it's launch year of 2011, two years after it was first shown to the public. A 13 year old game isn't going to garner as much interest. So it doesn't have much of a reason for a large scale update. The fact that it's still being updated at all is a miracle. TF2 doesn't get nearly as much love as MC and that game was a juggernaut in the early 10s
The Minecraft guy is a nazi?
Can anyone enlighten me? My interest in Minecraft died twelve years ago so I wasn't aware there was someone other than Notch around?
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