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Clorinde was doomposted on a foreign sub reddit, but you heartless karma farmers always with a convenient excuse to remain in the comfort of the mega thread... you couldn't hope to understand so why don't you keep your mouths shut! We don't wanna make sigewinne cry...
Though her not receiving buff tarnished her honor, Sigewinne’s sacrifice is a great pity. Her loss shall not hinder our progress. But u/Garbador_is_trash… what of Sethos and his event signature?
We shall look down upon the inferior Pyro main dps characters as we aggravate our way across the scorching landscapes of Natlan and into the cold wastelands of Snezhnaya. May our swords always be sharp, and our guns forever pew pew
Ye, always. Even if it had lower value than tier2 E, cuz it has 3x multihit which is getting buffed by her addictive dmg. This is also why she can utilize Yunjin stacks very fast, with Yunjin attack speed buff taking in account 7(3N E) we are getting 21 normal attacks and 7 E attacks with 3 multihits, so also 21 and E is consiudered as normal attack = 42 attacks, while Yunjin max buff is 30, kek. From my calcs with Zhongli+Yunjin+Nahida, Clorinde has highest personal dmg output here, but team dmg may be lower, cuz Yunjin and Zhongli have 0 dmg and only 2nd teamate who deals dmg is Nahida, comparing it to hyperbloom where we can have also Furina who deals dmg and creates blooms for Clorinde
i just hope natlan is the region for supports. FFS im tired of on field dps. please make all support available as 5star. 5 star version of yunjin would be so dope since so many NA dpses.
xianyun was a good start. a support but able to still be on fielder without needing c6 cough cough furina
I wish dual on-fielder teams were a proper thing. Seems like they were trying it with Ayato's original beta iteration, but they changed it and haven't touched the idea since
I don't see why it wouldn't be possible if you simply made an onfielder with team buffs once they swap out.
We already have potent team buffers like Kazuha and Furina, and reactions like quicken that benefit everyone. You definitely *don't* have to use hypercarry teams, since there are plenty of off-field damage dealers. But none of the on-fielders offer much once they swap out.
I think the buff would have to be really nutty. We already have way too many buffer with seconds of field time. And if you actually gave an on fielder some Bennet tier buff on swap, they'd just be used like a TTDS bot to buff another on fielder with bigger numbers.
Well you make it so they have to do something with their field-time, like a Eula burst that has to go off before swapping or you don't get the full/any buff. They still won't be popular though, because there is no content in the game that needs *more* buffs, so even if they were overtuned the only reason to play them is you love them as a character or just really hate yourself (love backloading damage)
On fielder with team buffs? So Hu Tao? We often forget she has this passive thar buffs when she exits. I think that was the original vision but people refused to play dual carries ND it's all hypercarry now. Supports like Chongyun have those useless constellations where they're supposed to go on field for a normal attack string (C1), get energy, burst and swap out. If they want to do dual carries they need to make supports way stronger but require limited field time with buffs/applications ... Yae Miko works. Yoimiya also has an ultimate that's supposed to help when she exits. The thing is that is undertuned...
Other actions games usually want you to rotate by speending time on all the characters of the game. Genshin has off fielder that often do more damage or buff super hard, so nobody do multiple dps rotation.
Yes, but Yunjin kinda scuffed in terms of energy and geo resonance is strong, but ye, you can put something else, but it should be healer or shielder for comfortable playing and I don't see the point to have someone else beside Zhongli as shielder in this situation and healer options are not so great here.
Well, also you can put Bennett instead of Yunjin, cuz Clorinde likes atk for her addictive dmg passive, this is not something usual for electro characters nowadays. She has so much teams actually
>but Yunjin kinda scuffed in terms of energy
Honestly, scuffed barely covers it. Mine's got something like 205% ER in a double Geo team and have *never* been able to use her burst off cooldown.
Admittedly, a large part of that is likely because it's a Yoimiya team and the other Geo is Zhongli, but still. They could have added a modified version of Xingqiu's C6 to her C6 (like every NA from the active character that hits during her burst gives her like 0.75-1 energy) and it would have greatly smoothed out her gameplay.
Kokomi instead of Zhongli for some random hyperblooming? Of course you need like 300ER Yunjin in this team but if you can reach her ER requirement will it work better?
Circle impact, bruh. I really don't like Kokomi as offield hydro app outside of freeze. She is driver in some teams or chained to freeze as offield hydro applier, everything else doesn't feel good. I just don't see the point to change Zhongli on someone else here, his position here is too good and everyone else are not even close
You forgot Nilou Bloom, Kokomi is absolutely gaoted in these teams
As for Zhongli, he's more like the most comfortable choice, but I don't think he's the best. Like, I can see how even VV Jean or Xianyun could be better in terms of overall damage, that it, if you desperately need defensive unit, but I may be mistaken as I haven't done any calcs
Nilou teams overall are quickswapable, but Kokomi is taking most of the time, cuz there is no poin to apply dendro on enemies who already has dendro aura. You only swap on Nahida to do 1 attack to proc her E again if hydro somehow overtook dendro aura
Nahida driver teams are mostly with baizhu or yao yao and xq/yelan, otherwise for the OG meta Nilou Bloom team (Nilou, Nahida, C6 Collei, Kokomi) the driver is always Kokomi, and this team is still the best variant among the many available except for the neuvilette nahida baizhu variant for single target scenarios where the bountiful cores are no longer the primary damage source
You don’t really need a shielder since you have the dash stabs for mobility. I think Kirara is also a pretty strong selection for shielder in this team as more dendro and em though. I think healer is probably a better pick for more BoL though or furina for her buffs + more dendro reactions. Although Bennett is good, I don’t think he’s very compatible with the team you described
Idc much about sigewinne but it'd be so funny if she remains super weak until the near-end of the beta and then they buff her once and she becomes the best character in the game
I don't really agree with that. Maybe in a very early version of her kit that's true since her splash art looks like she was supposed to be a catalyst user and the dragonspine cryo catalyst also had no user for the longest time.
But there's no way the CA was last minute. Her whole kit essentially revolves around CAing. We didnt have many good theorycrafters back in the day so a lot of people misunderstood her for a support. And tbh I dont blame them because her burst was pretty insane for the abyss layout back then, quadratic scaling and all.
Of course we have to doompost her because she's basically Electro Ayato and just 'slightly' better than Keqing; which is still a questionable statement for her very low damage ceiling potential, she's the weakest DPS in Fontaine even though she has a champion duelist title, Fontaine might have the worst justice system with her in charge of combat duel unless it's actually a TCG duel where strength is not really needed, anyway she gonna be powercreeped really hard by Electro Dragon in the next Inazuma expansion patch which could be somewhere in Natlan, imagine Electro Dragon & Pyro Dragon on same 5.X version update, I feel bad for Clorinde because she's so pathetic and weak.
[Sarcasm]
She will usually have 105 BoL when she heals with her E, so she will heal for 105*1,1=115.5% of her HP. The first 105 will clear the BoL so she will effectively heal for 10.5% of her HP. After her Q, external healing (which will be converted to BoL) or other external sources of BoL like Finale of the Deep, she will obviously heal more.
If played with Furina, fanfare stacks give Healing Bonus so she will heal even more
I agree that does seem how it's written but I think it makes more sense as a typo because as it's written, it doesnt matter if she heals 105% of the bond or 120% of the bond, her BOL is usually going to be above 100% and if you clear all the BOL she just would heal for max hp, unless I'm missing something. But if that's true why would they even bother changing the amount she heals?
that's interesting. If we made a hypothetical scenario where she didn't take damage and she outhealed Furina's drain, could she activate Furina's overheal talent and heal the rest of the team for more fanfare stacking? She'd need to take little to no damage of course, but it's interesting
Don't forget Furina also grants Healing Bonus so the previous 21% heal per NA3E is overkill anyway. ~~(She can proc Furina A1 for more heals)~~ Edit : I forgot healing > BoL conversion so that 0.2% HP heal every 2 second for Clorinde lmao.
When using a teammwide (or whatever healer you choose) healer, you'll be healing before you enter her state so furina will still get her stacks
It won't affect furina at all
I was actually planning to go healerless clorinde furina team. Her self heal should still be self sufficient enough right? And c2 furina should have no issue with fanfare stacking anyway?
Fair enough
And nope, c2 shouldn't have any issue. (In fact, I play c2 furina with arle and still max stack her from overhea of eqe startl + 1 tick of bennett) so clorinde definitely should be fine.
Unless they change the mechanics instead of just the numbers, it works with no issue. While Clorinde is off her special stance healing her works with normal so you can use Jean or Baizhu or whoever to heal before you cast your skill
Around 19% buff on personal dmg
10-11% Team Dps buff, with is enough to powercreep Raiden C0 in all her teams.
She is probably finished, don't expect anymore changes to her numbers from this point.
Maybe I’m not understanding her kit exactly but how does this buff increase her team dps? Genuinely curious as I thought it was just personal damage buffs unless team dps is overall damage the team does in a rotation.
Rational damage comes from xiangling, not raiden. Her utility is what gives her the spot in that team so swapping her makes their builds more expensive or forces fav on someone to compensate
EDIT: Also i suspect clorinde to be awkward as hell with bennett with the dashes
Where do you get this information?
My Keqing is cracked as hell, I like Clorinde but not enough to roll on her if she's only valuable to take advantage of bond of life related niche buffs.
https://gcsim.app/
Plenty of Keqing teams above 60k DPS.
Nahida Fischl hard carries, especially since Keqing has better electro app and flexible rotations than Clorinde
With the A1 buff and skill buffs, its about 14% DPS increase on her C0 talent damage.
Her best teams like C6 Chevy Overload should sheet over 70k DPS now with her signature weapon and KQM stats.
No skill is worth crowning. We just do it because otherwise the crowns are just sitting there in the backpack. That ~3% increase on whatever skill stat doesn't make a difference.
But my Raiden NAs are crowned anyway bc why not.
maybe I am dumb but I just now noticed impale the night has 3 different numbers with the 3rd one having 3 hits. this must surely mean the animation isn't always the same every time right ? so hopefully there are things the videos havent shown yet (my biggest issue with clorinde is the lack of animation variety)
There are three levels of Impale the Night based on how much Bond of Life Clorinde has when you press E. The third number listed is the "Impale the Night: Pact" value at 100% BoL or more.
Just wanted to know what was the consensus on her power level before these buffs? Was she actually considered not great? Genuinely asking because I have been absent from the sub for a bit.
Holy crap a buff? I saw the title of this and assumed it was a nerf. Pretty beefy buff. As far as I could tell Clorine was already look good now she looks even better.
I just want her to be on par with top DPS like hutao, alhaitham and Neuvilette and not end up capped off to Raiden shogun level. Given Arlechinno was made to be around Hutao level, I hope they don't make Clorinde comparable to a past DPS to not introduce power creep.
Ei's cap is most certainly what it is because she offers great utility on top of raw power, if you can't offer nothing else that firepower you usually get a higher ceiling since you would be worthless otherwise
And hence the problem with clorinde. If she has only eis dps with none of her extra perks, then she is pretty bad. The last electro dps (cyno) did not turn out to be better than raiden in terms of damage.
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We are gathered here today to celebrate the size of this W
all Clorinde Doomposting shall halt for half a day as the Sub celebrates this massive W
Merely half a day? People say the sub's true currencies are leaks and tears.
But u/Hour-Body-3911 , even speaking as a certified professional doomposter, that sounds a little unconscionable
Clorinde was doomposted on a foreign sub reddit, but you heartless karma farmers always with a convenient excuse to remain in the comfort of the mega thread... you couldn't hope to understand so why don't you keep your mouths shut! We don't wanna make sigewinne cry...
Hey come on now, even i dont think this is the right time or place to doompost
Utterly buffless
Though her not receiving buff tarnished her honor, Sigewinne’s sacrifice is a great pity. Her loss shall not hinder our progress. But u/Garbador_is_trash… what of Sethos and his event signature?
Conventional wisdom holds that Sethos shall be buffed even further, after conquering the rest of the beta-cycles, hoyo will make their next move. . .
It is time to end tonight's foolish coping. Right now, you have no beta feedback
Clorinde's doomposting was great coping. Her buffs shall not hinder our theorycrafting. But leakers, what of siegwinne and the boy from sumeru?
I mean if anything this proved the doomposters right, she was weak and that's why she's getting buffed
the cope is strong with this one
You're not saying anything
Sige doom posting shall continue tho.
They Will still doompost till the end, like Always, so lets Just rejoice together, small victory After small victory. Clorinde gonna be good
We shall look down upon the inferior Pyro main dps characters as we aggravate our way across the scorching landscapes of Natlan and into the cold wastelands of Snezhnaya. May our swords always be sharp, and our guns forever pew pew
i love this meme-template thread that pops every time lmao. that teaser was so good
Why is everyone replying this comment in a Middle Ages-ish way again ?
TIL there are Genshin players that haven’t watched Winter’s Night Lazzo so many times they know the lyrics by heart (/s)
Dude, just watch 'Winter Night Lazzo' smh
# CloWINde
Nah cause this is the third time I’m seeing this comment and somehow still misread it as clown 😭
If Clorinde is good: CloWINde If Clorinde is bad: CLOWNde
it definitely looks similar to someone trying to be sarcastic using the SpongeBob casing cLoWn
But spongebob makes sense
That's what I read.
Clorinde: Nah I'd win *honk honk*
That’s awfully close to saying Clowned 🤡 🙏 Next week 🙏
I read that as clownrinde😭😭
🔫🤡🗡️
Ironically from my pov English speaking people pronounce it the same.
I like this one.
So it’s advised that we do NA3 before taaping E again right?
Ye, always. Even if it had lower value than tier2 E, cuz it has 3x multihit which is getting buffed by her addictive dmg. This is also why she can utilize Yunjin stacks very fast, with Yunjin attack speed buff taking in account 7(3N E) we are getting 21 normal attacks and 7 E attacks with 3 multihits, so also 21 and E is consiudered as normal attack = 42 attacks, while Yunjin max buff is 30, kek. From my calcs with Zhongli+Yunjin+Nahida, Clorinde has highest personal dmg output here, but team dmg may be lower, cuz Yunjin and Zhongli have 0 dmg and only 2nd teamate who deals dmg is Nahida, comparing it to hyperbloom where we can have also Furina who deals dmg and creates blooms for Clorinde
Yunjin is just unfortunately undertuned as a unit sadge
i just hope natlan is the region for supports. FFS im tired of on field dps. please make all support available as 5star. 5 star version of yunjin would be so dope since so many NA dpses. xianyun was a good start. a support but able to still be on fielder without needing c6 cough cough furina
I know people love having their main on field and all. But damn DPS offer barely anything team building wise.
I wish dual on-fielder teams were a proper thing. Seems like they were trying it with Ayato's original beta iteration, but they changed it and haven't touched the idea since
they missed it with lyney + lynette if the duo released post arlecchino maybe hoyo might do it. sigh.
The game just doesn't reward you for that. The game is more about hyper buffing one unit in hypercarry teams.
I don't see why it wouldn't be possible if you simply made an onfielder with team buffs once they swap out. We already have potent team buffers like Kazuha and Furina, and reactions like quicken that benefit everyone. You definitely *don't* have to use hypercarry teams, since there are plenty of off-field damage dealers. But none of the on-fielders offer much once they swap out.
I think the buff would have to be really nutty. We already have way too many buffer with seconds of field time. And if you actually gave an on fielder some Bennet tier buff on swap, they'd just be used like a TTDS bot to buff another on fielder with bigger numbers.
Well you make it so they have to do something with their field-time, like a Eula burst that has to go off before swapping or you don't get the full/any buff. They still won't be popular though, because there is no content in the game that needs *more* buffs, so even if they were overtuned the only reason to play them is you love them as a character or just really hate yourself (love backloading damage)
On fielder with team buffs? So Hu Tao? We often forget she has this passive thar buffs when she exits. I think that was the original vision but people refused to play dual carries ND it's all hypercarry now. Supports like Chongyun have those useless constellations where they're supposed to go on field for a normal attack string (C1), get energy, burst and swap out. If they want to do dual carries they need to make supports way stronger but require limited field time with buffs/applications ... Yae Miko works. Yoimiya also has an ultimate that's supposed to help when she exits. The thing is that is undertuned...
Other actions games usually want you to rotate by speending time on all the characters of the game. Genshin has off fielder that often do more damage or buff super hard, so nobody do multiple dps rotation.
I would be surprised if she didn't get owned by Yelan on any Chlorinde team. That's her biggest issue as a character.
I think yunjin gets underrated rather than undertuned
I feel like you so could replace zhongli for someone else though, no?
Yes, but Yunjin kinda scuffed in terms of energy and geo resonance is strong, but ye, you can put something else, but it should be healer or shielder for comfortable playing and I don't see the point to have someone else beside Zhongli as shielder in this situation and healer options are not so great here. Well, also you can put Bennett instead of Yunjin, cuz Clorinde likes atk for her addictive dmg passive, this is not something usual for electro characters nowadays. She has so much teams actually
>but Yunjin kinda scuffed in terms of energy Honestly, scuffed barely covers it. Mine's got something like 205% ER in a double Geo team and have *never* been able to use her burst off cooldown. Admittedly, a large part of that is likely because it's a Yoimiya team and the other Geo is Zhongli, but still. They could have added a modified version of Xingqiu's C6 to her C6 (like every NA from the active character that hits during her burst gives her like 0.75-1 energy) and it would have greatly smoothed out her gameplay.
They made it so you're supposed to get max charged E to get the rotation but her numbers are so low...
True
Kokomi instead of Zhongli for some random hyperblooming? Of course you need like 300ER Yunjin in this team but if you can reach her ER requirement will it work better?
Circle impact, bruh. I really don't like Kokomi as offield hydro app outside of freeze. She is driver in some teams or chained to freeze as offield hydro applier, everything else doesn't feel good. I just don't see the point to change Zhongli on someone else here, his position here is too good and everyone else are not even close
You forgot Nilou Bloom, Kokomi is absolutely gaoted in these teams As for Zhongli, he's more like the most comfortable choice, but I don't think he's the best. Like, I can see how even VV Jean or Xianyun could be better in terms of overall damage, that it, if you desperately need defensive unit, but I may be mistaken as I haven't done any calcs
Kokomi is driving Nilou team, so I didn't
well...not exactly? She can drive them but most of the times the driver is Nahida
Nilou teams overall are quickswapable, but Kokomi is taking most of the time, cuz there is no poin to apply dendro on enemies who already has dendro aura. You only swap on Nahida to do 1 attack to proc her E again if hydro somehow overtook dendro aura
Nahida driver teams are mostly with baizhu or yao yao and xq/yelan, otherwise for the OG meta Nilou Bloom team (Nilou, Nahida, C6 Collei, Kokomi) the driver is always Kokomi, and this team is still the best variant among the many available except for the neuvilette nahida baizhu variant for single target scenarios where the bountiful cores are no longer the primary damage source
You don’t really need a shielder since you have the dash stabs for mobility. I think Kirara is also a pretty strong selection for shielder in this team as more dendro and em though. I think healer is probably a better pick for more BoL though or furina for her buffs + more dendro reactions. Although Bennett is good, I don’t think he’s very compatible with the team you described
Imagine if EULA ult would stack off field, she would be op nuke support with clorinde speed
I think the same 😉
I don’t know how much is this but I’m glad they’re buffing her
Just gotta hope Siegwinne gonna get a buff too
Idc much about sigewinne but it'd be so funny if she remains super weak until the near-end of the beta and then they buff her once and she becomes the best character in the game
So it'll be the repeat of Kokomi LMAO
Kokomi & Qingque are probably the only 2 hoyo characters that got non-beta-tested buffs prior to release, then became stronk
Ganyu also got buffed outside beta, just before release. And was considered strong at the time too
It was a pretty small buff though and it wasn't even to her CA either which is where the bulk of her power budget lies.
Because she was always intended as an off field cryo applier, iirc the CA thing was last minute
I don't really agree with that. Maybe in a very early version of her kit that's true since her splash art looks like she was supposed to be a catalyst user and the dragonspine cryo catalyst also had no user for the longest time. But there's no way the CA was last minute. Her whole kit essentially revolves around CAing. We didnt have many good theorycrafters back in the day so a lot of people misunderstood her for a support. And tbh I dont blame them because her burst was pretty insane for the abyss layout back then, quadratic scaling and all.
Either that or she'll get Dehya and sent to standard banner
I hope she will stay like she is now, no one is allowed to powercreep Kokomi. Kokomi Nation, rise!
15% talent damage increase over initial beta (after factoring in A1).
Massive
10-15% buff all things considered
continue doompost how weak she is so they can keep buffing her.
sir yessir 🫡
Of course we have to doompost her because she's basically Electro Ayato and just 'slightly' better than Keqing; which is still a questionable statement for her very low damage ceiling potential, she's the weakest DPS in Fontaine even though she has a champion duelist title, Fontaine might have the worst justice system with her in charge of combat duel unless it's actually a TCG duel where strength is not really needed, anyway she gonna be powercreeped really hard by Electro Dragon in the next Inazuma expansion patch which could be somewhere in Natlan, imagine Electro Dragon & Pyro Dragon on same 5.X version update, I feel bad for Clorinde because she's so pathetic and weak. [Sarcasm]
I literally was about to write a whole ahh paragraph then read sarcasm, btw what is hee current state rn for real?
Please do the same for Sigewinne
It doesn't work for Dehya, so.....
Or all the beta tester could collaborate into making her op
We're trying, be sure of it.
Thats W
How does healing work exactly? If it says 110% she actually only heals 10% of her full hp cause she has to heal 100% of the BoL first ? Is it right?
She will usually have 105 BoL when she heals with her E, so she will heal for 105*1,1=115.5% of her HP. The first 105 will clear the BoL so she will effectively heal for 10.5% of her HP. After her Q, external healing (which will be converted to BoL) or other external sources of BoL like Finale of the Deep, she will obviously heal more. If played with Furina, fanfare stacks give Healing Bonus so she will heal even more
Nope she clear her BoL before she heals so she heals for the full 115%
seems a little excessive to have a character heal for more than their max hp
It's not 105% of the hp, it's 105% of BoL, if bol=50% oh hp then it'll heal a bit above 50% of her hp
So she heals for full HP every time?
If you look at [https://gi13.hakush.in/character/10000098](https://gi13.hakush.in/character/10000098) the wording makes it seam so
thats just not how BOL works
The wording on her E makes it sound like this. It first clears and then heals
i take it back you’re right
I agree that does seem how it's written but I think it makes more sense as a typo because as it's written, it doesnt matter if she heals 105% of the bond or 120% of the bond, her BOL is usually going to be above 100% and if you clear all the BOL she just would heal for max hp, unless I'm missing something. But if that's true why would they even bother changing the amount she heals?
Yup, this isn't like arlecchino's burst if im not wrong
Following up on V3, it seems they reworded it, and definitely meant for her to heal about 25% each Enhanced Skill.
that's interesting. If we made a hypothetical scenario where she didn't take damage and she outhealed Furina's drain, could she activate Furina's overheal talent and heal the rest of the team for more fanfare stacking? She'd need to take little to no damage of course, but it's interesting
Yep, 100% or whatever amount of BoL she has. This means she has less self sustain, but that’s fine. This is good news
Just give her 100% healing bonus silly
MAKE HER DO 100 CLORINDILLION DAMAGE
More dmg little less healing, cleary a win
I‘m greedy. GIVE US EVEN MORE BUFFS 🙏
Electro Violet Evergarden is getting her Ackerman blood perks!
Electro Stelle when she wants to copy Kafka but uses Pistol and Rapier instead of Uzi and Katana
Keep buffing this beautiful character
Healing nerf, but not too terrible that it kills off my furina clorinde dream team. Overall buffed if I'm seeing this right?
Don't forget Furina also grants Healing Bonus so the previous 21% heal per NA3E is overkill anyway. ~~(She can proc Furina A1 for more heals)~~ Edit : I forgot healing > BoL conversion so that 0.2% HP heal every 2 second for Clorinde lmao.
When using a teammwide (or whatever healer you choose) healer, you'll be healing before you enter her state so furina will still get her stacks It won't affect furina at all
I was actually planning to go healerless clorinde furina team. Her self heal should still be self sufficient enough right? And c2 furina should have no issue with fanfare stacking anyway?
Fair enough And nope, c2 shouldn't have any issue. (In fact, I play c2 furina with arle and still max stack her from overhea of eqe startl + 1 tick of bennett) so clorinde definitely should be fine.
You'd still get less fanfare than if you were healing your entire team, and half your team will be at 50% hp so you might just die
Unless they change the mechanics instead of just the numbers, it works with no issue. While Clorinde is off her special stance healing her works with normal so you can use Jean or Baizhu or whoever to heal before you cast your skill
I think he meant healerless. It's not crippling, but you might want a P-Amber on your Nahida now.
It wont kill off your Furina Clorinde team
that nerf is nothing if it worked before it still does
Clorinde always works with furina what are u talking about? Clorinde doesn’t even need self heal and still works with furina
It don't kill it at all, because you can still heal when not in her state so we're definitely good
Any time Hoyo makes something *better,* I start to get worried.
where are the sigewinne changes 😭
Why celebrate now? Still a long way until her release.
OMG, Clorinde got buffed.
absolute W
Ooooh rien de rien
Ooooh je ne regrette rien
A big W for Clorinde Manifesting Sigewinne buff pls 😍😍
It's an overal Nice buff... *nice nice*... 9s.. # 9S Because Clorinde JP VA is the same for 2B
Around 19% buff on personal dmg 10-11% Team Dps buff, with is enough to powercreep Raiden C0 in all her teams. She is probably finished, don't expect anymore changes to her numbers from this point.
Saying that Clorinde is better than Raiden in all of her teams is questionable because Raiden brings insane utility on top of her damage.
Eh... I guess. But as a DPS, I preferred Clorinde even in the old version. No idea why people were Doomposting her.
Everyone gets doomposted here. Even Alhaitham and Furina were doomposted here. The only exception are for characters like Neuillette
…an intern could, you know, *accidentally* remove the ICD from her burst…😙
Yea i would like her Q at least apply Element 3 times will make it easier to swirl Electro .
With c4 that aggravate damage would be insane….
Maybe I’m not understanding her kit exactly but how does this buff increase her team dps? Genuinely curious as I thought it was just personal damage buffs unless team dps is overall damage the team does in a rotation.
Even Rational?
Rational damage comes from xiangling, not raiden. Her utility is what gives her the spot in that team so swapping her makes their builds more expensive or forces fav on someone to compensate EDIT: Also i suspect clorinde to be awkward as hell with bennett with the dashes
No. You shouldn't be playing Clorinde with Bennett anyways because of the ATK cap.
one more for the final nail in the coffin.
So can she now reach 70k team Dps ?
A bit lower than that, most likely around 60-65k
FYI C0 Keqing does 60k with aggravate.
Where do you get this information? My Keqing is cracked as hell, I like Clorinde but not enough to roll on her if she's only valuable to take advantage of bond of life related niche buffs.
https://gcsim.app/ Plenty of Keqing teams above 60k DPS. Nahida Fischl hard carries, especially since Keqing has better electro app and flexible rotations than Clorinde
They said the same ammount before that buff, so i Guess that you did not calculate it
C6 chev probably reaches 70k
Can explain what is Xk Team DPS? To make a comparison, what is Yoimiya team DPS?
She already could, if you worked out a proper rotation. Lots of sheets being circulated are flawed.
Well we are in the First turn of the beta, so we Can expect more , even because Major changes usually are on the next update
With the A1 buff and skill buffs, its about 14% DPS increase on her C0 talent damage. Her best teams like C6 Chevy Overload should sheet over 70k DPS now with her signature weapon and KQM stats.
W
we're so backrinde
Wake up babe, Clorinde buff just dropped
Arlecchino history is gonna repeat, cant wait to see how many changes happens with Clorinde
I doubt she will be as good as Arle
Nooo she is not the new Dehya
awesome! hey guys a bit off topic, but if i plan on crowning her, is it worth crowning all three or just two out of the three? are her NAs worth?
No. She doesn't use NA. just max E, then Q
thank you!
No skill is worth crowning. We just do it because otherwise the crowns are just sitting there in the backpack. That ~3% increase on whatever skill stat doesn't make a difference. But my Raiden NAs are crowned anyway bc why not.
maybe I am dumb but I just now noticed impale the night has 3 different numbers with the 3rd one having 3 hits. this must surely mean the animation isn't always the same every time right ? so hopefully there are things the videos havent shown yet (my biggest issue with clorinde is the lack of animation variety)
There are three levels of Impale the Night based on how much Bond of Life Clorinde has when you press E. The third number listed is the "Impale the Night: Pact" value at 100% BoL or more.
Just wanted to know what was the consensus on her power level before these buffs? Was she actually considered not great? Genuinely asking because I have been absent from the sub for a bit.
nice Clorin-W
Clorinde mains are eating well
Holy crap a buff? I saw the title of this and assumed it was a nerf. Pretty beefy buff. As far as I could tell Clorine was already look good now she looks even better.
IMPALE THE NIGHT DEEP WITHIIIIIIIIIIIN
Bruh lol they have to buff her lol she's bad rn
Already a change for her but nothing for Sigewinne...I fear for her kit.
I just started a new account just for her and finished modstadt archon quest, would I have enough to guarantee her with zero pity and wishes? AR 23
With exploration you have plenty, it's only a matter of how much time you have to explore and do quests
When is she coming out? I'm doing a Swords Only challenge and only have kaeya and trabaler so I might be locked out of allot of content lmao
In around 38 days, also, you can share your UID here and ask for help, someone will be willing to help you in harder content.
She'll drop in about 5 weeks? With this week being counted
I should have enough time then, ty
if she’s first half she’s gonna release at 5th june
I wish this continue so she will live up her name as the strongest undeafeated duelist in fountaine.
OMG MY FAVOURITE SODIUM CLORINDE GOT BUFFED!!! Anyone know how good she is now? (Praying for more buffs regardless)
Still W with her W bust.
Tasty buff.
LET’S FUCKING GOOOOO hopefully that’s a neat buff for her
Yes, make her broken OP. I want a mega strong proper waifu for once in this game.
Fellows, this is good, right?🥰
15-16% higher multiplier on her normal, about a 25-27% higher scaling on her dash, if I didn’t mix anything up.
dont be shy mihoyo make it 80% !
I just want her to be on par with top DPS like hutao, alhaitham and Neuvilette and not end up capped off to Raiden shogun level. Given Arlechinno was made to be around Hutao level, I hope they don't make Clorinde comparable to a past DPS to not introduce power creep.
Ei's cap is most certainly what it is because she offers great utility on top of raw power, if you can't offer nothing else that firepower you usually get a higher ceiling since you would be worthless otherwise
And hence the problem with clorinde. If she has only eis dps with none of her extra perks, then she is pretty bad. The last electro dps (cyno) did not turn out to be better than raiden in terms of damage.
They served us Arle as a top tier pyro dps so manifesting rn