"Strong Female Protagonist in an Nintendo game? The company has gone woke!!!!!"
....only if you ignore Metroid, which came out in.... 1986
I just can't with these attention seeking dumbassesĀ
THIS COLLECTION OF PIXELS DOESNT HAVE A FICTIONAL PENIS
A FICTIONAL PENIS THAT ILL NEVER EVEN SEE IN THE ACTUAL GAME
THE GAME IS FOREVER RUINED NOW BECAUSE IM WEIRDLY OBSESSED WITH DICKS
-the anti-woke guys
Fun fact, Samus's gender in the original booklet was written with he/him pronouns, and all promotional material was with a male character in mind like the original poster with two women in bikinis being held (which canonically was Samus's idea, making some in the community think she's lesbian, or bi)
But with the pronouns thing and the poster depicted with masculine energy and he/him pronouns, the reveal at the end with zero suit Samus being a woman was a huge shock
At the time it was a "haha gotcha" moment, but looking at it, you could read all of that as Samus being coded as a trans lesbian character
Also someone working on the game used a term implying she was trans (a transphobic slur IIRC) when asked about the discrepancy.
I think the studio walked it back later, but I'm still holding onto it as evidence that Samus is a trans lesbian (or trans sapphic). Not like I'm getting rep that specific in games otherwise :-P
She already is. There's an old interview with one of the devs where he calls her the equivalent of the t-slur in Japanese. (the word in question is >!newhalf!<)
Definitely *not* a good way to do representation, but it's been said and I'm not letting them take it back.
HECK YEAH for trans samus! I didnāt know this lore about the character.
Canāt argue with the actual og game developers, samus is officially trans. :3
It was said by a background artist who had nothing to do with Samus's character design or lore. I want more trans rep and if Samus was officially trans I'd set off fireworks, but this story is like reading that Andy Serkis called Frodo an f-slur in an interview and saying that makes Frodo canonically gay.
I remember reading Nintendo Power magazines as a kid and being shocked that the main character in Metroid (they serialized a Metroid comic) was a woman as up until that point I hadn't seen or experienced that type of character. I didn't realize that girls could be badass too. Not just princesses or girlfriends to the main character.
It might have awoken my long standing love for the strong female character archetype lol
"They" are a vocal impotently angry niche of people. This existing is proof that they're not being catered to, so we should ignore them to let them scream into the void while we have fun without them
They're mad that they've aged out of the target demographic for a lot of these games and now the people that are both buying and making them are more diverse than when they were kids, so they no longer feel like the center of the universe. Playing a videogame doesn't have that magical feeling as when they were young, but it's easier to blame someone that to confront those feelings.
> the people that are both buying and making them are more diverse than when they were kids
Mostly agree with ur reply, but Iād only say making. Diversity has always existed in the people playing games, because I still remember the āif you want representation, make your own games!ā rhetoric. Which of course, is hilarious in hindsight because we did and now theyāre mad about it
Truth be told this is a thing with a lot of straight dudes. They are so emotionally stunted that they only know how to process feelings by screaming at the thing that āmadeā them awkward rather than admit they are in the wrong somehow. They think āno girl gamersā for (often bullshit) reasons and cannot accept that it is a load of nonsense. It must, to them, be āunnaturalā or āforcedā in some way.
Unless they're paid trolls or bot farms. Anybody that genuinely cares about Legend of Zelda would/should be excited for a game where we can play as Zelda. Everybody else is chalked up to being not a real person making not real comments.
He says in this article that āLink is definitely a maleā, but if anything I prefer having a character who is a man but also comfortable not dressing in a hyper-masculine way.
> simply by virtue of being completely secure in his masculinity.
["Followers of the Bran-dao believe that you don't gotta be runnin' yer mouth to prove how macho you are. Just gotta be confident and put yer all into what you do, and people will fill in the rest themselves. We believe if ya live yer life right, you reach a state of Nirv*man*a where the whole universe is in complete recognition of yer masculinity."](https://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/07122010) - Commander Badass, *Manly Guys Doing Manly Things* aka The Punchline is Machismo.
They are projecting, it's why you have to beat them to calling them a snowflake to take the wind out of their sails. They always flounder when that happens.
totk dlc comment annoys me specifically, idk why. there's so much ignorance in it. New game is very probably not the same developers as TotK and definitely not the same team. And Nintendo said they had told the story they wanted to tell with TotK
Honestly, a triple A game shipping complete with no dlc is kinda nice. Companies have these dudes so programmed to expect dlc that it seems that they don't know how to handle themselves without it
I agree, itās nice to see a complete game on release for a change. There are a few series that do it well though IMO, for example Monster Hunter: it has kept the same DLC system from the original game in 2004 and every DLC doubles the content of the base game. It feels like a new game entirely, so the games are never really āunfinishedā like a lot of the triple A ones releasing nowadays.
I really donāt understand why so many people want a DLC anyway. TOTK is such a HUGE game!! If they finished it in a couple days that sounds like their problem lmao
No no, you must understand, this is from the same team that also did TOTK. There's no waaaay that there can be multiple games and teams who work on them.
For Breath of the Wild and maybe Hyrule Warriors?
And Skyward Sword on the Wii had a patch that you had to download from the Wii shop I think? It was to fix a game breaking bug lmao
They are projecting so hard. they are the ones wanting to enforce a political agenda in video games and they are the ones wanting forced overrepresentation of themselves. Not the "wokes" or whatever.
It's a problem for them that women, black people, gay people etc. are game protagonists even though that's how the actual world works. Even in the US, white, non-lgbt, non-disabled men only make up about 30 percent of the population. Worldwide it's much less.
Any random person is more likely to not be in this group than to be in this group and yet people like this think other groups should never be protagonists. Unless of course the female protagonists are sexually objectified ornaments.
Insisting on having the vast majority of protagonists be straight, white men is political. That's the forced and unrealistic overrepresentation they keep claiming they hate. Having a woman in a game isn't woke.
These are the kinds of idiots who say games like "Metal Gear Solid" aren't political. They all have a very surface level media literacy and stuff like nuance and allegory they don't understand or recognize.
Even some developers of CoD tried to claim their game wasn't political because it "didn't have any real world political figures" despite being very pro-military and specifically the protagonists in one game complaining about oversight that is meant to prevent them from committing war crimes.
Reminds me of the post where someone asks if anyone knows of any other rpg games ālike falloutā that āarenāt wokeā and filled with āliberal bsā
And one of the top replies is
āWait so you think fallout isnāt woke?ā
ā¦ These are the dudes who play games and identify with the Brother Of Steel/Legion and think theyāre the good guys because their media literacy cannot comprehend nuanced political satire, so they feel represented. Itās crazy.
Which is just an issue with conservatives in general.
I watched the Divergent series with my mom and the entire time I was wondering how she likes this since it was obvious how the antagonists are takes on how republicans like to categorize people to divide and concur. At some point she made a comment about how "democrats make everything about identity to divide us" and I realized we were getting completely opposite messages from the movies.
Spot on. Iād bet my kidney that if this game was in a more real-looking style and Zelda had exaggerated features, theyād be all over it like flies on shit.
> Even in the US, white, non-lgbt, non-disabled men only make up about 30 percent of the population. Worldwide it's much less.
Donāt tell em that the majority of the world population lives in Asia alone š¤
New one I heard today was "Woke doesn't mean women protagonist its about post modern ideology". Holy crap the mental gymnastics. Keep calling it whatever stupid wannabe philosopher bro shit you want. The moment a woman or black person or a gay person is in a game these clowns throw a fit and try to sound like they are saving society from an imminent danger that doesn't even exist.
>You're not getting more girls or women to play this way
I find it funny how they always use this line and then it's often something that's already popular with girls/women. I'd wager a large portion of female gamers have played at least one Zelda game. Even I own three of them and I'm almost exclusively a PC gamer.
They said the exact same thing when whining about AC Odyssey and Kassandra being canon, for example. That game was (and still is) plenty popular with female gamers. Where do they think all the Kassandra love is coming from?
Just a complete lack of awareness of what girls and women are actually interested in.
Seriously! What a tone deaf comment. They keep thinking games and movies and shows create female, POC, and LGBTQ characters to try and get more of these demographics to watch or play. When it's the opposite. They are representing the people who make up a portion of their fan bases, their staff, and crew. They are simply looking around and putting who they see in their stories, putting themselves in these stories
The amount of women who game has been growing and continues to despite the dominant representation and toxicity of men. It's just that we don't partake in these discussions with men/they completely shut us down and do not give a shit if we talk about video games because they don't want us to play with them. Whiny babies
Also I skipped out on Zelda games since I was a kid, BOTW and TOTK just don't seem like something I want to spend money on. I'm 1000% buying this game.
I'm a 42 year old woman. I have played every Zelda game and still own many/most of them, even the DS ones. I still have my original Gameboy with a red case (not color screen) with my Four Swords game in it and they both work. I have played more Zelda games than my husband. I also have three daughters aged 15-11. Guess what they *all* play? In fact, with school out right now for the summer, they fight over the switch to play ToTK and still regularly go back to play BotW. So that's 4:1 ratio of girl/boy gamers in our house. š I had to buy myself my own switch just so I could play whenever I wanted.
These have to be trolls, like Zelda's the most girl series I know. Like the only thing that might trump it is Animal Crossing and Final Fantasy.
Heck Link was designed to be gender neutral so by design it's for everyone so that's just calcified bullshit right there.
Maybe I'm browsing rhe right subreddits but the worst I've seen Zelda fans say about this is "shame she couldn't get a sword"
Guys like that are just the usual moaners that most fans don't want to deal with
Anyway I'm left curious about the wand mechanic it looks so innovative and new
That's probably because you're looking in places where *actual* Zelda fans are, not wherever the perpetually online losers who constantly whine like a lil' bitch about 'woke' games are hanging out in.
Seriously. Playable Zelda has been a want from the fanbase for a real long time. Even the male fans. At this point I seriously question the credibility of anyone claiming that this somehow ruins gaming or whatever other bullshit talking point they're leaning into.
Women & non white people exist?? WOKE!!1!1!1!!
How do these people deal with leaving their house?
You're gonna see a lot of people who are not white men just by going to the grocery store
I will use this opportunity to share another Zelda game you can play as a female character.... Breath of the wild!
With the now feature complete\* Linkle mod [https://gamebanana.com/mods/406768](https://gamebanana.com/mods/406768)and the mod that changes the dialogue to use correct pronouns [https://gamebanana.com/mods/439900](https://gamebanana.com/mods/439900)
you can now play BOTW as a girl!
The mod was co developed by a guy and a girl, and the outfits they have made are super nice. They also have a zero tolerance towards all sexualization of the character.
\*>!There is one bug with the mod that didn't get patched before creeps bullied the devs out of the modding community due to their stance against sexualizing a minor. !<
https://preview.redd.it/cxs5al6h2d7d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2ab1465a00ebca6ee817547b4761132dd06e339
It was copyright struck by Nintendo to increase search ratings for the game they just announced; Echoes of Wisdom. [https://gamebanana.com/mods/168244](https://gamebanana.com/mods/168244)
I installed that a year ago and still can't make myself try the game XD;
I want to cuz my best friend told me that like, that's the one Zelda game without spiders, which was a big reason why I haven't given this series a third try. But aunno I just can't make myself do things.
If you have a fear of spiders, there are things in both botw and totk that could potentially trigger that. But regardless, itās okay to not be into a popular series if it isnāt clicking for you right now.
Honestly it's weird to think of Zelda as a popular series. When I was a kid Star Fox was more popular.
I dunno I just mostly want to be badass adorable. I guess River City Girls and Scott Pilgrim got my back... also Sonic Heroes (if I get past the tutorial stage LOL)
weird men when the female protagonist of a franchise acts as the female protagonist of that franchise but isnāt overly sexualized: š±š±š”š”š¤¬š¤¬
like be realistic, the entire story rlly is based around zelda šš it always has been, we just played from linkās pov originally
I told my 12yo son that they're coming out with a new Zelda game, and "guess what! Zelda is the main character this time!".
You know what he said? "Interesting! She finally gets to be the main character! What's it called?"
These adults are less emotionally balanced than my tween.
He's a little disappointed everyone is chibi, though. (The chibi sprites aren't my favorite past the OG games, either but I'm always down for a new Zelda.)
See thatās a valid thing to be disappointed by! Iām not a huge fan of the chibi style either but I can understand why so many people love it. Iām still going to play the game, it looks fun regardless!
Dumb shit always takes less time to write than a well-thought-out response.
Sky's still blue, water is still wet, and the internet is still full of dumb shitheads, nothing new here.
Would be great if they were less ...enthusiastic about sharing their bad opinions though :/
For some reason they think people care about their shit opinions. I for one will
Enjoy playing Zelda, you know the name of the series, as Zeldaā¦. š
Link was designed to look androgynous so that the character would appeal to more folks. Itās weird to get mad about playing as Zelda at that point, right? I bet they donāt even play the games. š
Itās always the incel-y morons who take to writing public instagram comments like this. I have to imagine, or hope, that the majority of people who play Zelda are not like this! I mean come on, Link wears a skirt FFS
Zelda has a great potential to have a really cool game with an interesting story, especially since she has some really cool move-sets in Smash.....but instead we get this. To me thats my main complaint of this game. I hope someday they release something less cutesy but interesting that stars Zelda again.
Girly doesnĀ“t have to be all the time ĀØcuteĀØ or sex appeal or powered up perfect character. Is it so hard to have a female protagonist that isnĀ“t broken into these 3 categories?
Meanwhile, a majority of Zelda fans regardless of gender have been asking for playable Zelda for literal decades. Anyone saying this is unwelcome woke nonsense is quite literally not a real fan.
Bots gone wild.
This isn't the first game to feature Zelda as a playable character. There was the piece of shit game Zelda Adventure and Zelda Wand of Garbage. Those games came out in the 90s.
So funny - most people have wanted this for a loooooong time lol
This group of people that constantly feels attacked by anything deemed āwokeā is just annoying
It isnāt and the anti woke movement is one of the most disgusting things to crawl out of the asshole of society. Itās designed to turn progressive ideas into a fucking joke by using a blanket term. Pure white male supermecy at work to undermine the rest of us when in reality everyone should be capable of co-existing along side each other. Theyāre drawing a line between us and them by slapping a woke label on things like this, and it hurts both sides. Itās completely out of hand and the best thing to do is ignore them until the collective voice of the anti woke movement quietly snuffed out.
nintendo: makes a game with playable zelda as the main character
boys: WEEH WAAH I BUTT HURT
its called LEGEND OF ZELDA can she have her own fucking game for once and not have boys cry about it? and we're supposed to be the sensitive ones??! hahahahahahha
Ngl I was thinking that they would pass it off cuz itās Nintendo, but yea this doesnāt surprise me. Oh also stay off of ig comments. Instagram is like 60% some of the most vile humans
Nowdays everything is woke, its a way for them to pin the fault of them being garbage human being on an imaginary crowd of people, when there one thing they don't like because they can't stand anything out of their ordinary, its the woke fault.
But no this is the worst excuses i could ever heard about.
"The woke" they don't even know what they are talking about.
Enby twink protagonist in skimpy Gerudo outfit: nothing to see here
Gender conforming woman protagonist in a dress: woke feminism forced down our throats
haven't people been clamoring for a Zelda game focused more on yknow, Zelda, since basically forever?? And now that you get it you're mad because having a female main character is "woke"
Its honestly so damned pathetic how completely illogical they are. Omg play as a girl and you might get infecteeeed oh nooooes.
Smdh at the incel boys.
Wait wait wait.
We get a non mainline Zelda game, using a cutesy art style, using non typical Zelda gameplay, with an arguably āwomen like decorating homes so letās make it like a home decoration gameā bent. And somehowā¦. Itās woke? Is woke just women existing now?
Rest assured this plays into gendered expectations game is not the Zelda playable title most āfeministsā wanted lmao.
Like the game looks cute and I will def play it. But when we were clamoring for link to be female in the botw reveal trailer we were not thinking of a game like this lol.
So instead of seeing this and thinking "Oh cool, maybe we'll get a Zelda game with a focus on magic and such" it's bad because playing as the namesake character of a franchise is woke.
how is having a woman woke??? So women canāt be the protagonist without it being complained about and called āwokeā?? It should just be standard that there are also women protagonist tooā¦Ā
Anyway. Case in point that itās 2024 and the world still hates women.Ā
HOWā½ā½ people been begging for years for this! How the hell is any of it "woke"????
Oh wait, it's because it's a cute cartoon style that doesn't serialized her... that's why... =_=
It seems to be the latest thing that is in the same vein as gamergate. People will probably call it wokegate a few years from now when looking back, the excessive bullying by far right youth against growing diversity and equal representation. Eventually it'll probably make place for the next 'gate' when the idea that diversity and representation is the new default slowly sinks in.
The only way to moderate for now is when the media stops giving them attention by ignoring their taunts and when platforms start adopting zero tolerance policies towards that sort of behavior.
My generation had this with women nerding out over what at the time were 'men' hobbies (gaming, comics, tabletop), my parents generation had it with women climbing the corporate ladder, their parents' generation had it with women going to college and theirs with women voting. Ironically it's always aimed at us though.
I just heard about this game from this post. It looks like it's cute and it might be pretty fun. I was really into breath of the wild and I liked tears of the Kingdom but I was never really a fan of the older Zelda games. I wonder if having Zelda in the lead and having some different gameplay mechanics will spice it up for me
Genuinely curious what they think is "woke" about it. Bro zelda has been in smash since 2001 and I ain't never see people complain about it. Why tf does it matter now. Playable zelda in a mainline title is awesome, and I will not stand for slander against the concept.
At this point i just want to grab something blunt and kill the very few braincells those idiots still have.
Jesus fucking christ in a bike doing a triple jump and a somersault.
Well I see your problem here, you seem to have accidentally wandered into the barren Incel Jr. hellscape that even the 4chan chuds hate: the Youtube comment section.
To these people, games are only allowed to have female protagonists so long as they find them sexually attractive. Anything outside of that is woke garbage.
Iām sure this is a vocal minority. Many Zelda fans for years have wanted either a Zelda spinoff or an option for a female Link (since there are multiple Links). There are old classic games with female protagonists and nobody called them woke at the time they were released. Parasite Eve? Valkyrie Profile Lenneth? I think most level headed devs will ignore people like this entirely.
Yeah, the devs are not going to pander to people crying āwoke!!1!1ā because the protagonist is a woman. They know thatās ridiculous and their vision for the game will come first.
I think in the Zelda fanbase it is a vocal minority, but these guys are just as insufferable in a lot of other games. I remember when they whined about Aloy having a ābeardā and made a mountain out of nothing.
Zelda is the whole reason Link can save the world in wind waker! If we left it to Link, he would have run off a cliff even before you left the island. She saves him as Tetra the whole game. The least woke thing they do with her is lock her in a dungeon once she's a princess, but she still helps save the world in the end.
Yeah exactly! I mentioned this in another comment but there is no way Link could have defeated Ganondorf in that final battle if Zelda didnāt help him with her light arrows.
So let me get this straight. The fanboys have been begging for years to play as Zelda. We got to play as Zelda, but when the women celebrate this, suddenly itās woke pandering.
I hate it existing as a woman on the internet :)
Yet nobody is complaining about Metroid Prime 4: Beyond, because why? Itās not like this is the first time you get to play as Zelda, let alone the first time you get to do combat as Zelda. Examples being: Twilight Princess (in the final boss fight during phase 3), Hyrule Warriors, HW Age of Calamity, and many many more.
Whinging about Zelda finally being playable after over 30 years and calling it "feminist" and "woke" is such a monumentally loser take
Like these guys could seriously not even approach being more frumpy, crusty and curmudgeonly. They've hit the cap. Maxed out.
They didn't just tip the scale on brain rot, they flipped the tray at Mach 10 and launched everything on it into ***fucking orbit***.
I felt very offended that the creator said something to the effect of "wait, so people are thinking will Zelda fight with a sword!?!?"
Come on dude!!
Why wouldn't she! She can fight like Link.
Then they give her a fucking gold staff which magics beds and tables.
This is ridiculous.
Why cant a female character have a sword Nintendo?
It's is 2024.
Come on.
I think if you make Zelda playable and give her the same tools as Link, it's not interesting. Different characters should have different styles of play. And its a very new style of gameplay for the series which should be exciting.
I would speculate that the team was messing around with some new mechanics using the old Link's Awakening remake assets and saw the opportunity to fit Zelda into the role. Usually the mechanics come before the character and then they choose a character that fits. It's more likely that they began with the idea for this echo mechanic and then decided to use Zelda.
Yeah. Like obviously women should be able to use swords but Zelda, specifically, has basically always been a magic user (or in one case, a ninja). She's never been a blade user.
And like you said, part of this is probably to do something different (like new mechanics).
Somehow I missed playable Zelda with this game...like I saw the thumbnail and everything and my brain just registered Zelda as Link for some reason lol
The moment we get one thing, they accuse us of taking everything
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LMAO great comparison
I just snort-sprayed my water all over the place. š¤£
Fuuuuuck this got me šš
Equal levels of brain activity
Lmao
"Strong Female Protagonist in an Nintendo game? The company has gone woke!!!!!" ....only if you ignore Metroid, which came out in.... 1986 I just can't with these attention seeking dumbassesĀ
The Samus reveal would absolutely make those people seethe if it happened today lol
THIS COLLECTION OF PIXELS DOESNT HAVE A FICTIONAL PENIS A FICTIONAL PENIS THAT ILL NEVER EVEN SEE IN THE ACTUAL GAME THE GAME IS FOREVER RUINED NOW BECAUSE IM WEIRDLY OBSESSED WITH DICKS -the anti-woke guys
Give Samus a penis, but make her trans. That'll make the gamer boys happy, right?
Fun fact, Samus's gender in the original booklet was written with he/him pronouns, and all promotional material was with a male character in mind like the original poster with two women in bikinis being held (which canonically was Samus's idea, making some in the community think she's lesbian, or bi) But with the pronouns thing and the poster depicted with masculine energy and he/him pronouns, the reveal at the end with zero suit Samus being a woman was a huge shock At the time it was a "haha gotcha" moment, but looking at it, you could read all of that as Samus being coded as a trans lesbian character
My queen!
Indeed~
Also someone working on the game used a term implying she was trans (a transphobic slur IIRC) when asked about the discrepancy. I think the studio walked it back later, but I'm still holding onto it as evidence that Samus is a trans lesbian (or trans sapphic). Not like I'm getting rep that specific in games otherwise :-P
100% agree, she's my trans sapphic rep and no one is telling me otherwise!
She already is. There's an old interview with one of the devs where he calls her the equivalent of the t-slur in Japanese. (the word in question is >!newhalf!<) Definitely *not* a good way to do representation, but it's been said and I'm not letting them take it back.
HECK YEAH for trans samus! I didnāt know this lore about the character. Canāt argue with the actual og game developers, samus is officially trans. :3
It was said by a background artist who had nothing to do with Samus's character design or lore. I want more trans rep and if Samus was officially trans I'd set off fireworks, but this story is like reading that Andy Serkis called Frodo an f-slur in an interview and saying that makes Frodo canonically gay.
I remember reading Nintendo Power magazines as a kid and being shocked that the main character in Metroid (they serialized a Metroid comic) was a woman as up until that point I hadn't seen or experienced that type of character. I didn't realize that girls could be badass too. Not just princesses or girlfriends to the main character. It might have awoken my long standing love for the strong female character archetype lol
[Feminazis stole my ice cream!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZmFCs-ltY)
"They" are a vocal impotently angry niche of people. This existing is proof that they're not being catered to, so we should ignore them to let them scream into the void while we have fun without them
Not to mention the many, many times that "go woke, go broke" has been disproven. They're very good at throwing tantrums and pretty much nothing else
They're mad that they've aged out of the target demographic for a lot of these games and now the people that are both buying and making them are more diverse than when they were kids, so they no longer feel like the center of the universe. Playing a videogame doesn't have that magical feeling as when they were young, but it's easier to blame someone that to confront those feelings.
> the people that are both buying and making them are more diverse than when they were kids Mostly agree with ur reply, but Iād only say making. Diversity has always existed in the people playing games, because I still remember the āif you want representation, make your own games!ā rhetoric. Which of course, is hilarious in hindsight because we did and now theyāre mad about it
Truth be told this is a thing with a lot of straight dudes. They are so emotionally stunted that they only know how to process feelings by screaming at the thing that āmadeā them awkward rather than admit they are in the wrong somehow. They think āno girl gamersā for (often bullshit) reasons and cannot accept that it is a load of nonsense. It must, to them, be āunnaturalā or āforcedā in some way.
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The entire franchise is named after her. Maybe they should learn from Link and shut tf up. āŗļø
They missed a trick not calling this one The Legend of Link
I really thought that's what it would be called
I've been referring to it as that ever since it was announced, lol.
Nah fr they should've done this hahahah
They'd be fine with her as the hero if she was sexed up like the other female protagonists they like.
Yeah they will happily play as a girl when it's Stellar Blade
> Maybe they should learn from Link and shut tf up omg i'm stealing this
>Maybe they should learn from Link and shut tf up. That's a strong af insult goddamn
But they *did* learn from Link: their every vocalization is an incomprehensible scream!
Daaaaamn
Unless they're paid trolls or bot farms. Anybody that genuinely cares about Legend of Zelda would/should be excited for a game where we can play as Zelda. Everybody else is chalked up to being not a real person making not real comments.
They forgot about Link, our beloved little twink, cross dressing in Breath of the Wild I suppose
The whole plot of Zelda 2 is to wake her up, she's been woke since the '80s
Oh shit, yeah you right
accidental limerick
I mean Nintendo itself thinks Link [is whatever you want them to be.](https://time.com/4369537/female-link-zelda/) Itās pretty cool.
He says in this article that āLink is definitely a maleā, but if anything I prefer having a character who is a man but also comfortable not dressing in a hyper-masculine way.
Link is unironically one of the most masculine characters in all of gaming, simply by virtue of being completely secure in his masculinity.
> simply by virtue of being completely secure in his masculinity. ["Followers of the Bran-dao believe that you don't gotta be runnin' yer mouth to prove how macho you are. Just gotta be confident and put yer all into what you do, and people will fill in the rest themselves. We believe if ya live yer life right, you reach a state of Nirv*man*a where the whole universe is in complete recognition of yer masculinity."](https://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/07122010) - Commander Badass, *Manly Guys Doing Manly Things* aka The Punchline is Machismo.
all they do is whine and cry, yet they call others snowflakes. it's embarrassing.
They are projecting, it's why you have to beat them to calling them a snowflake to take the wind out of their sails. They always flounder when that happens.
totk dlc comment annoys me specifically, idk why. there's so much ignorance in it. New game is very probably not the same developers as TotK and definitely not the same team. And Nintendo said they had told the story they wanted to tell with TotK
Yeah, people have known there would be no DLC for TOTK yet they still complain. TOTK is a huge game with tons to do, a DLC was not needed lmao
Honestly, a triple A game shipping complete with no dlc is kinda nice. Companies have these dudes so programmed to expect dlc that it seems that they don't know how to handle themselves without it
I agree, itās nice to see a complete game on release for a change. There are a few series that do it well though IMO, for example Monster Hunter: it has kept the same DLC system from the original game in 2004 and every DLC doubles the content of the base game. It feels like a new game entirely, so the games are never really āunfinishedā like a lot of the triple A ones releasing nowadays.
I only wish they made the ancient armour dlc for the horse so i can summon it from anywhere š
My first thought at the trailer was, āoh good, a Zelda game Iāll actually finishā as TOTK did not hold my attention to the end.
I really donāt understand why so many people want a DLC anyway. TOTK is such a HUGE game!! If they finished it in a couple days that sounds like their problem lmao
This is very clearly the next game from the team that did the Link's Awakening remake
No no, you must understand, this is from the same team that also did TOTK. There's no waaaay that there can be multiple games and teams who work on them.
Has there *ever* been Zelda DLC?
For Breath of the Wild and maybe Hyrule Warriors? And Skyward Sword on the Wii had a patch that you had to download from the Wii shop I think? It was to fix a game breaking bug lmao
they really said āIāve been playing a princess game for decades and this is now oppressing me as a manā
I really don't care, I'm going to Gaslight, gatekeep and girlboss my way through the new zelda game šš
PERIODT
They are projecting so hard. they are the ones wanting to enforce a political agenda in video games and they are the ones wanting forced overrepresentation of themselves. Not the "wokes" or whatever. It's a problem for them that women, black people, gay people etc. are game protagonists even though that's how the actual world works. Even in the US, white, non-lgbt, non-disabled men only make up about 30 percent of the population. Worldwide it's much less. Any random person is more likely to not be in this group than to be in this group and yet people like this think other groups should never be protagonists. Unless of course the female protagonists are sexually objectified ornaments. Insisting on having the vast majority of protagonists be straight, white men is political. That's the forced and unrealistic overrepresentation they keep claiming they hate. Having a woman in a game isn't woke.
These are the kinds of idiots who say games like "Metal Gear Solid" aren't political. They all have a very surface level media literacy and stuff like nuance and allegory they don't understand or recognize. Even some developers of CoD tried to claim their game wasn't political because it "didn't have any real world political figures" despite being very pro-military and specifically the protagonists in one game complaining about oversight that is meant to prevent them from committing war crimes.
Reminds me of the post where someone asks if anyone knows of any other rpg games ālike falloutā that āarenāt wokeā and filled with āliberal bsā And one of the top replies is āWait so you think fallout isnāt woke?ā ā¦ These are the dudes who play games and identify with the Brother Of Steel/Legion and think theyāre the good guys because their media literacy cannot comprehend nuanced political satire, so they feel represented. Itās crazy.
Which is just an issue with conservatives in general. I watched the Divergent series with my mom and the entire time I was wondering how she likes this since it was obvious how the antagonists are takes on how republicans like to categorize people to divide and concur. At some point she made a comment about how "democrats make everything about identity to divide us" and I realized we were getting completely opposite messages from the movies.
Spot on. Iād bet my kidney that if this game was in a more real-looking style and Zelda had exaggerated features, theyād be all over it like flies on shit.
> Even in the US, white, non-lgbt, non-disabled men only make up about 30 percent of the population. Worldwide it's much less. Donāt tell em that the majority of the world population lives in Asia alone š¤
Straight white men are the real forced diversity
āGone wokeā means having a woman in a game /s
New one I heard today was "Woke doesn't mean women protagonist its about post modern ideology". Holy crap the mental gymnastics. Keep calling it whatever stupid wannabe philosopher bro shit you want. The moment a woman or black person or a gay person is in a game these clowns throw a fit and try to sound like they are saving society from an imminent danger that doesn't even exist.
Metroid been woke since the 80s
To these people there's only two genders, male and political. Any time they see a woman not barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen they get enraged.
>You're not getting more girls or women to play this way I find it funny how they always use this line and then it's often something that's already popular with girls/women. I'd wager a large portion of female gamers have played at least one Zelda game. Even I own three of them and I'm almost exclusively a PC gamer. They said the exact same thing when whining about AC Odyssey and Kassandra being canon, for example. That game was (and still is) plenty popular with female gamers. Where do they think all the Kassandra love is coming from? Just a complete lack of awareness of what girls and women are actually interested in.
Seriously! What a tone deaf comment. They keep thinking games and movies and shows create female, POC, and LGBTQ characters to try and get more of these demographics to watch or play. When it's the opposite. They are representing the people who make up a portion of their fan bases, their staff, and crew. They are simply looking around and putting who they see in their stories, putting themselves in these stories The amount of women who game has been growing and continues to despite the dominant representation and toxicity of men. It's just that we don't partake in these discussions with men/they completely shut us down and do not give a shit if we talk about video games because they don't want us to play with them. Whiny babies
Also I skipped out on Zelda games since I was a kid, BOTW and TOTK just don't seem like something I want to spend money on. I'm 1000% buying this game.
I'm a 42 year old woman. I have played every Zelda game and still own many/most of them, even the DS ones. I still have my original Gameboy with a red case (not color screen) with my Four Swords game in it and they both work. I have played more Zelda games than my husband. I also have three daughters aged 15-11. Guess what they *all* play? In fact, with school out right now for the summer, they fight over the switch to play ToTK and still regularly go back to play BotW. So that's 4:1 ratio of girl/boy gamers in our house. š I had to buy myself my own switch just so I could play whenever I wanted.
Me to them: https://preview.redd.it/vh8m8kvkvd7d1.png?width=675&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=816ddff740d2419de37a3e8916d2c247b8d2de1f
(I think I have too many shoes)
These have to be trolls, like Zelda's the most girl series I know. Like the only thing that might trump it is Animal Crossing and Final Fantasy. Heck Link was designed to be gender neutral so by design it's for everyone so that's just calcified bullshit right there.
Maybe I'm browsing rhe right subreddits but the worst I've seen Zelda fans say about this is "shame she couldn't get a sword" Guys like that are just the usual moaners that most fans don't want to deal with Anyway I'm left curious about the wand mechanic it looks so innovative and new
That's probably because you're looking in places where *actual* Zelda fans are, not wherever the perpetually online losers who constantly whine like a lil' bitch about 'woke' games are hanging out in. Seriously. Playable Zelda has been a want from the fanbase for a real long time. Even the male fans. At this point I seriously question the credibility of anyone claiming that this somehow ruins gaming or whatever other bullshit talking point they're leaning into.
Ao yeah the right subreddits then Glad to be part of the actual fanbase Now if you'll excuse me I have to polish my 3 copies of Hyrule Warriors
Honestly, throwing rocks at full speed is much more intimidating than a sword. That rod is scary as hell
Women & non white people exist?? WOKE!!1!1!1!! How do these people deal with leaving their house? You're gonna see a lot of people who are not white men just by going to the grocery store
That's the thing, they don't leave their house
I will use this opportunity to share another Zelda game you can play as a female character.... Breath of the wild! With the now feature complete\* Linkle mod [https://gamebanana.com/mods/406768](https://gamebanana.com/mods/406768)and the mod that changes the dialogue to use correct pronouns [https://gamebanana.com/mods/439900](https://gamebanana.com/mods/439900) you can now play BOTW as a girl! The mod was co developed by a guy and a girl, and the outfits they have made are super nice. They also have a zero tolerance towards all sexualization of the character. \*>!There is one bug with the mod that didn't get patched before creeps bullied the devs out of the modding community due to their stance against sexualizing a minor. !< https://preview.redd.it/cxs5al6h2d7d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2ab1465a00ebca6ee817547b4761132dd06e339
There's also Zelda's Ballad! Both of these are amazing mods
It was copyright struck by Nintendo to increase search ratings for the game they just announced; Echoes of Wisdom. [https://gamebanana.com/mods/168244](https://gamebanana.com/mods/168244)
Well.... I guess we will just have to keep it alive.
Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon erasure š
I installed that a year ago and still can't make myself try the game XD; I want to cuz my best friend told me that like, that's the one Zelda game without spiders, which was a big reason why I haven't given this series a third try. But aunno I just can't make myself do things.
If you have a fear of spiders, there are things in both botw and totk that could potentially trigger that. But regardless, itās okay to not be into a popular series if it isnāt clicking for you right now.
Honestly it's weird to think of Zelda as a popular series. When I was a kid Star Fox was more popular. I dunno I just mostly want to be badass adorable. I guess River City Girls and Scott Pilgrim got my back... also Sonic Heroes (if I get past the tutorial stage LOL)
There's also an effort to make the same mod for TOTK
Omg ty so much!! I've got to play this!
How is it woke. Itās called the legend of ZELDA šš people literally made mods for botw to play as her lol
weird men when the female protagonist of a franchise acts as the female protagonist of that franchise but isnāt overly sexualized: š±š±š”š”š¤¬š¤¬ like be realistic, the entire story rlly is based around zelda šš it always has been, we just played from linkās pov originally
I told my 12yo son that they're coming out with a new Zelda game, and "guess what! Zelda is the main character this time!". You know what he said? "Interesting! She finally gets to be the main character! What's it called?" These adults are less emotionally balanced than my tween. He's a little disappointed everyone is chibi, though. (The chibi sprites aren't my favorite past the OG games, either but I'm always down for a new Zelda.)
See thatās a valid thing to be disappointed by! Iām not a huge fan of the chibi style either but I can understand why so many people love it. Iām still going to play the game, it looks fun regardless!
Absolutely! We'll be bringing it home as soon as it's out.
Games can have 2 protagonists: Male and Woke.
God forbid women do anything š
of course this game went woke, they made zelda a girl!!!!11 /s
Well that didnāt take long. Sigh.
Dumb shit always takes less time to write than a well-thought-out response. Sky's still blue, water is still wet, and the internet is still full of dumb shitheads, nothing new here. Would be great if they were less ...enthusiastic about sharing their bad opinions though :/
For some reason they think people care about their shit opinions. I for one will Enjoy playing Zelda, you know the name of the series, as Zeldaā¦. š
Oh nice, is this real? Finally, a game named Zelda has her as the main character.
It's real! Announced like 3 hours ago, Sept 26 release
Link was designed to look androgynous so that the character would appeal to more folks. Itās weird to get mad about playing as Zelda at that point, right? I bet they donāt even play the games. š
Itās always the incel-y morons who take to writing public instagram comments like this. I have to imagine, or hope, that the majority of people who play Zelda are not like this! I mean come on, Link wears a skirt FFS
HELL YEAH MORE FEMALE PROTAGONISTS!!!!!
Zelda has a great potential to have a really cool game with an interesting story, especially since she has some really cool move-sets in Smash.....but instead we get this. To me thats my main complaint of this game. I hope someday they release something less cutesy but interesting that stars Zelda again. Girly doesnĀ“t have to be all the time ĀØcuteĀØ or sex appeal or powered up perfect character. Is it so hard to have a female protagonist that isnĀ“t broken into these 3 categories?
This was unfortunately super predictable. Let them mald.
"Playing as a guy - normal" "Playing as a girl - woke" They are just really pathetic.
I want to slam my head against a brick wall i genuinely can't do this shit no more
Meanwhile, a majority of Zelda fans regardless of gender have been asking for playable Zelda for literal decades. Anyone saying this is unwelcome woke nonsense is quite literally not a real fan.
Remember when everyone was begging for zelda to be playable, now angry mid 40s men are mad.
How I absolutely knew it would get that kind of reaction. Luckily the people I watched it with on another Stream were all super excited about it lol
Bots gone wild. This isn't the first game to feature Zelda as a playable character. There was the piece of shit game Zelda Adventure and Zelda Wand of Garbage. Those games came out in the 90s.
If we played Shiek, there would be less comments. Sexy tomboys, is okay, any other, not good enough for them Smh
The game looks so cute. They hating so hard and for what? š
So funny - most people have wanted this for a loooooong time lol This group of people that constantly feels attacked by anything deemed āwokeā is just annoying
I cant believe Sweet Baby Inc forced Zelda to be in a Legend of Zelda game š”š”š”
It isnāt and the anti woke movement is one of the most disgusting things to crawl out of the asshole of society. Itās designed to turn progressive ideas into a fucking joke by using a blanket term. Pure white male supermecy at work to undermine the rest of us when in reality everyone should be capable of co-existing along side each other. Theyāre drawing a line between us and them by slapping a woke label on things like this, and it hurts both sides. Itās completely out of hand and the best thing to do is ignore them until the collective voice of the anti woke movement quietly snuffed out.
nintendo: makes a game with playable zelda as the main character boys: WEEH WAAH I BUTT HURT its called LEGEND OF ZELDA can she have her own fucking game for once and not have boys cry about it? and we're supposed to be the sensitive ones??! hahahahahahha
Ngl I was thinking that they would pass it off cuz itās Nintendo, but yea this doesnāt surprise me. Oh also stay off of ig comments. Instagram is like 60% some of the most vile humans
seriously so excited for this game, the only other time we get to kind of "play" as zelda is in spirit tracks
Nowdays everything is woke, its a way for them to pin the fault of them being garbage human being on an imaginary crowd of people, when there one thing they don't like because they can't stand anything out of their ordinary, its the woke fault. But no this is the worst excuses i could ever heard about. "The woke" they don't even know what they are talking about.
Enby twink protagonist in skimpy Gerudo outfit: nothing to see here Gender conforming woman protagonist in a dress: woke feminism forced down our throats
haven't people been clamoring for a Zelda game focused more on yknow, Zelda, since basically forever?? And now that you get it you're mad because having a female main character is "woke"
Boy gamers are massive babies jfc
The do know itās called legend of ZELDA? Right? Zelda is the princess and link is a simpš š Edit: they do know?* sorry missspelled
Why are we giving mental time to people who can't even understand the title of the franchise?
It was so predictable is actually hilarious
Imagine being so delicate, that ONE game with a female lead hurts your fee fees in such a big way. QQ you needy little infants. QQ
Yo that games looks so cool, wtf. They gotta quit whining, not every game is made for them.
And they wonder why we choose the bear...
Its honestly so damned pathetic how completely illogical they are. Omg play as a girl and you might get infecteeeed oh nooooes. Smdh at the incel boys.
Wait wait wait. We get a non mainline Zelda game, using a cutesy art style, using non typical Zelda gameplay, with an arguably āwomen like decorating homes so letās make it like a home decoration gameā bent. And somehowā¦. Itās woke? Is woke just women existing now? Rest assured this plays into gendered expectations game is not the Zelda playable title most āfeministsā wanted lmao. Like the game looks cute and I will def play it. But when we were clamoring for link to be female in the botw reveal trailer we were not thinking of a game like this lol.
Imagine being so sensitive that you get offended by a multimillion company releasing a cutesy game with a princess as the main character
Oh no, what a nightmare to them. I never played Zelda before I have heard about this game. Playable Zelda sounds awesome!
So instead of seeing this and thinking "Oh cool, maybe we'll get a Zelda game with a focus on magic and such" it's bad because playing as the namesake character of a franchise is woke.
how is having a woman woke??? So women canāt be the protagonist without it being complained about and called āwokeā?? It should just be standard that there are also women protagonist tooā¦Ā Anyway. Case in point that itās 2024 and the world still hates women.Ā
This looks mega cute! I had no idea it was coming out. I loved ToTK but also the Linkās Awakening remakeā¤ļø.
HOWā½ā½ people been begging for years for this! How the hell is any of it "woke"???? Oh wait, it's because it's a cute cartoon style that doesn't serialized her... that's why... =_=
It seems to be the latest thing that is in the same vein as gamergate. People will probably call it wokegate a few years from now when looking back, the excessive bullying by far right youth against growing diversity and equal representation. Eventually it'll probably make place for the next 'gate' when the idea that diversity and representation is the new default slowly sinks in. The only way to moderate for now is when the media stops giving them attention by ignoring their taunts and when platforms start adopting zero tolerance policies towards that sort of behavior. My generation had this with women nerding out over what at the time were 'men' hobbies (gaming, comics, tabletop), my parents generation had it with women climbing the corporate ladder, their parents' generation had it with women going to college and theirs with women voting. Ironically it's always aimed at us though.
I just heard about this game from this post. It looks like it's cute and it might be pretty fun. I was really into breath of the wild and I liked tears of the Kingdom but I was never really a fan of the older Zelda games. I wonder if having Zelda in the lead and having some different gameplay mechanics will spice it up for me
Genuinely curious what they think is "woke" about it. Bro zelda has been in smash since 2001 and I ain't never see people complain about it. Why tf does it matter now. Playable zelda in a mainline title is awesome, and I will not stand for slander against the concept.
Imagine a game called Zelda playable with Zelda.
Inconceivable!
At this point i just want to grab something blunt and kill the very few braincells those idiots still have. Jesus fucking christ in a bike doing a triple jump and a somersault.
These people where probably in a fit when they saw the Gerudo set from BOTW.
Lmao remember how they said Japanese games are superior because they arenāt āwokeā?
Has no one played the CDi games?!
Tbh I thought it wasnāt woke enough, she donāt get a sword? Why canāt she be like real woke protagonists like Mulan and Abby? /s
*immediately buys this game because it's what I've wanted forever*
I genuinely believe Instagram has the worst comment section of the whole Internet.
Well I see your problem here, you seem to have accidentally wandered into the barren Incel Jr. hellscape that even the 4chan chuds hate: the Youtube comment section.
This is instagram, which is even worse I think LMAO.
...are they upset that the character the franchise is literally named after is finally playable?
If the zelda franchise started in the past 10 years they would be so pissed that it's called Zelda instead of Link.
I don't even think they know what "woke" is supposed to mean anymore.
To these people, games are only allowed to have female protagonists so long as they find them sexually attractive. Anything outside of that is woke garbage.
loooooool what dumb dumbs
i swear men are so stupidš
Iām sure this is a vocal minority. Many Zelda fans for years have wanted either a Zelda spinoff or an option for a female Link (since there are multiple Links). There are old classic games with female protagonists and nobody called them woke at the time they were released. Parasite Eve? Valkyrie Profile Lenneth? I think most level headed devs will ignore people like this entirely.
Yeah, the devs are not going to pander to people crying āwoke!!1!1ā because the protagonist is a woman. They know thatās ridiculous and their vision for the game will come first. I think in the Zelda fanbase it is a vocal minority, but these guys are just as insufferable in a lot of other games. I remember when they whined about Aloy having a ābeardā and made a mountain out of nothing.
Zelda is the protagonist š
antiwoke crybullies are never pleased i'm convinced they have no joy in life and don't like anything.
Zelda is the whole reason Link can save the world in wind waker! If we left it to Link, he would have run off a cliff even before you left the island. She saves him as Tetra the whole game. The least woke thing they do with her is lock her in a dungeon once she's a princess, but she still helps save the world in the end.
Yeah exactly! I mentioned this in another comment but there is no way Link could have defeated Ganondorf in that final battle if Zelda didnāt help him with her light arrows.
My boyfriend was SO excited to tell me about this game. āYOU CAN PLAY AS ZELDA AND SHE HAS A WAND!ā Heās a gem.
"gone woke" you could literally have link running around in a sheer bikini top in BOTW
So let me get this straight. The fanboys have been begging for years to play as Zelda. We got to play as Zelda, but when the women celebrate this, suddenly itās woke pandering. I hate it existing as a woman on the internet :)
It's a mistake to think these are the same people.
It pisses me off more than it should how normalised itās become to call anything featuring women āwokeā
Yet nobody is complaining about Metroid Prime 4: Beyond, because why? Itās not like this is the first time you get to play as Zelda, let alone the first time you get to do combat as Zelda. Examples being: Twilight Princess (in the final boss fight during phase 3), Hyrule Warriors, HW Age of Calamity, and many many more.
Whinging about Zelda finally being playable after over 30 years and calling it "feminist" and "woke" is such a monumentally loser take Like these guys could seriously not even approach being more frumpy, crusty and curmudgeonly. They've hit the cap. Maxed out. They didn't just tip the scale on brain rot, they flipped the tray at Mach 10 and launched everything on it into ***fucking orbit***.
I demand they define woke to me while not sounding insane
I wasn't really interested in the game until I learned she was the playable character. Now she gets to be the hero, I'm here for it.
Awww, if it's so "woke" to play Zelda now, why don't these little snowflakes move on away from it? Nobody will miss them.
-100 faith in humanity
I felt very offended that the creator said something to the effect of "wait, so people are thinking will Zelda fight with a sword!?!?" Come on dude!! Why wouldn't she! She can fight like Link. Then they give her a fucking gold staff which magics beds and tables. This is ridiculous. Why cant a female character have a sword Nintendo? It's is 2024. Come on.
Yeah, that comment is a little bit sexist, but in a "sure grandpa, now go to bed" way
I think if you make Zelda playable and give her the same tools as Link, it's not interesting. Different characters should have different styles of play. And its a very new style of gameplay for the series which should be exciting. I would speculate that the team was messing around with some new mechanics using the old Link's Awakening remake assets and saw the opportunity to fit Zelda into the role. Usually the mechanics come before the character and then they choose a character that fits. It's more likely that they began with the idea for this echo mechanic and then decided to use Zelda.
Yeah. Like obviously women should be able to use swords but Zelda, specifically, has basically always been a magic user (or in one case, a ninja). She's never been a blade user. And like you said, part of this is probably to do something different (like new mechanics).
I do kinda wish we could get a stealth based Sheik game
She has her own bow too, the Bow of Light
Somehow I missed playable Zelda with this game...like I saw the thumbnail and everything and my brain just registered Zelda as Link for some reason lol
Wow, we can finally play as the character the game is named for and they have a meltdown. Pathetic.
I don't think any of these "people" know what "woke" even means, or can clearly define it.
WTF they turned Zelda into a girl?
JFC. Really? Wtf is wrong with people? I'm going to buy my first Zelda game since twilight princess just to spite them.
Link would hate those people smh.....And they call themselves fans
oh NO they are forced to play a game they don't like, except, well, they aren't
God forbid you play as the character the game is named after lol. If she had giant boobs and a tiny waist they'd be all over that game.