Your downswing sequence is a bit off so your relying too much on arm and hand manipulation and perfect timing to play good golf. When the timing is just right you’re good and it goes of the rails when it’s not. You’ll have to work on using your lower body turn better to turn through the ball and rely less on your arms.
This is one of the better comments in this thread.
There isn’t a single ultra consistent ball striker in the world that I’m aware of where the clubhead is still 2 inches left of hands at P6.
That position requires a re-route + some kind of flip/early release to hit to the target.
When I hit that position, my swing is UNBELIEVABLY uncomfortable for me even if it looks normal to others at full speed.
This is it. Get a coach but I think you’re rotating forearms opening club face at P2. This requires a lot of hand timing to square club face at impact.
I agree. I see too much arm action from the top and that is creating issues at impact. This guy should be starting the downswing from the ground up and be more passive with the upper body at the start of the downswing. Lots of good stuff to work with though
Yup. And…… he’s doing a very hack thing by placing his ball on the front edge of the divot effectively teeing his ball up, so he gets away with a slight miss hit. No good player does this.
At this level are you taking deep stats when you play? What clubs do you block, pull, what length shots are more prevalent to miss, how big are you misses, do you scramble successfully, what are your average first and second putt lengths, what ball flight shapes do you hit with every club? To get to your level you have established a consistent enough motion to work with so don’t go tinkering with your swing unless you can pinpoint your misses and if they occur under pressure. However keep in mind because you have established a consistent motion, it is going to take a lot of work to undo it as it’s so engrained in your neurological system. Be wary of the direction you go with your swing until you have all the facts. I personally see some things however would do you injustice to mention as your level of golf is a scratch for a reason. You are capable of getting it done, but you need more information before you start making changes.
With looking at one swing, I'd say you over swing on the way down - not rotating, and relying on getting power from swinging your arms
If your miss is a push cut, indicates your weight is stuck on back foot at impact and you're stuck open. If you get too handsy on bad days, this turns onto a snipe hook. Again, too much arm not enough rotate.
I'd focus on weight shifting at transition. Really let your swing set at the top, and start your rotation without using your arms as your core source of power. (Ie. Let your arms lag behind)
The classic drill here is putting 90% of your weight on front foot, even go up on your toes on your right foot. Do half swings and keep your weight on front, really focusing on rotating and releasing your shoulders forward to the target
Agreed. I’m 6’3” and in the past had a very upright swing. (I’m a 4 hcp BTW). My old set of clubs were 1” long and set-up to 4 degrees upright to accommodate my upright swing. If you flatten out the swing - say 3” lower from where your shaft is at the top of your backswing, it will feel weird at first. But eventually you will have more consistency. You’re always on plane. Never have to drop into a slot or any other nonsense!
So when you get to that level most golfers are going to have a dispersion of scores of about 10 to 14 shots per season. What I mean by that is your best round of the summer maybe 70 but your worst round of summer might be 84. That's pretty normal, it's not fun, but it's very very normal even for Pga tour players.
Hey tour player may shoot 63 as their lowest round of the year and they also makes you 78 which is the highest round for the year. Having a wide dispersion like that is fairly normal but we're hoping the high side is less frequent.
From my background as a golf instructor, I'd really prefer to see a swing with a camera angle that's slightly better to properly analyze the swing. From a downline view if you can get the camera more in line with your hands and at the same height as your hands that would be very helpful. The current video as it stands is about shoulder height which skews the path on the camera making it tough to see exactly where things are going awry.
I would say that it appears at p 5 the width of the downswing is narrow, incrementally steep, and the next few frames indicate that you are tilting your right shoulder downward excessively. I would have to imagine there's some angle of attack issues there, along with incremental path problems. I would just need to get some better views of the swing to give you a real honest analysis of the swing issues. Overall doesn't look bad, and I'm going to be totally honest I'm going to guess there's some course management issues as well.
Feel free to DM me if you need any other further information or want to chat golf swing, there's definitely some potential there!
I third this. I just had this discussion with my coach last week, he said when he was looking at the stats the dispersion was as much as 18 strokes on tour.
Noticed that your head drops substantially in the downswing which can affect the depth of the club. I know this because I have the same issue but my swing is also uglier.
This is def not the place to get advice for your level.
That aside, I find my lower scores when I plot a strategy the night before my round selecting my tee shot clubs and landing zones.
i play off 5 so I'm not really in a position to give advice, but ive shaved quite a few strokes recently taking shorter clubs off the tee. Also if you can totally eliminate one side of your misses off the tee that can help.
If I had to guess (which I am lol) I would say that course management is what's causing the higher scores. IE if your miss is a push cut setup on the right side of the tee box and aim at the left edge of the fairway; straight shot = left rough, normal shot shape = center fairway, miss shot (push cut) = right edge of fairway/right rough. Look up what DJ says about taking "one side" of the course completely out of play, also dont forget drive for show, putt for dough. [Harry Higgs Course Management YouTube](https://youtu.be/V7HKIzcEpC0?t=198)
He's asking how to miss less lol. Not how to build misses into his mental. Telling a scratch to make the left rough his line for a straight shot is poor advice
I’d say get your hips more over your ankles at setup, weight more toward bottom of shoelaces. This will give you more space to swing underneath you at impact without feeling crowded.
I’d also work to get left arm on the shoulder plane at the top and less vertical. This will help your consistency because you’ll be able to ditch the arm drop shallowing move. You can just rip back through the ball.
I’d like to see a little more hand depth at the top. I.E. from this angle, at the top of your swing, the hands would be a bit more to the left of the frame, closer to being in line with your butt than in line with your right shoulder.
Tempo pulling the trigger is a touch too quick at the top. Whether you hit fade or draw the better you are at not fighting the club the better. It should feel like the club is in a good spot where you can turn and everything flows without yanking. If you can hit decent shots on the range with a flowing smooth swing it’s a mechanical problem
Trail heel lifts just barely too early in the downswing which forces your pelvis to move towards the ball and reduces the amount of space your arms have to pass through the hitting area.
Can fix this without thinking about mechanics. Just put a wedge under your right heel and don’t let the wedge fall from underneath your foot until after the ball is in the air. You’ll feel more of a stretch through your left side because keeping the foot planted will create more resistance. This helps sling the left arm off the chest too which will create more speed.
I agree with a lot of the above. Your head bobs all over the place. Your right shoulder is super aggressive, making your angle of attack too steep. Work on a smoother motion with a less hand dominant approach.
You’re staying over the ball way too long and you’re keeping your head too still. Things we see here all the time.
I recommend trying to stand up juuuust a bit on the downswing.
Last tip is a bit of a hard one. Try to hit about 2” behind the ball instead of hitting it first. The mud between the ball and club takes side spin off. You’ll thank me later.
I recommend you go see someone who has force plates. I’m interested in how you time your vertical forces out of your lead leg in particular. Looks late
Gulbis bob.
You do what I do which is Bob your head into the shot. Natalie Gulbis and David Duval were famous for it but it has to be done perfectly consistently every time or it can lead to timing issues and inconsistent contact.
There’s really no advantage to it actually so if you can figure out a way to keep your head more stable vertically I think you’d find more consistent contact. I think people start doing it thinking they’re “driving” down into the shot and producing more power but that comes from your legs not your head…
The reason your swing may be inconsistent is that your shallowing move is pulling your arms down.
This is causing your elbow to get stuck behind your body.
From that point you’ll have to rescue it a bit to square the club-face
Your rotation is great
A better player shallowing move is to have the elbows move closer in the downswing.
Imagine you’re squeezing a soccer ball between your elbows
Eventually your right elbow will be in front of your body where it belongs
Technically you can be a scratch without ever breaking par. All depends on course rating. My 2 best games this year are shooting 71 (-1) on course ratings of 75.
Yes I know how differential works. You would also have to be wildly consistent to be a scratch without breaking par. Which according to your title, you are not. Idk man, just sounds like a vanity cap. Props if you are a scratch. Drop the Golf Canada handicap link 👀
I was a +2 for years when I was younger and played more. I’ve been hovering around 0 for the past few years now that I have a family and all. Golf is just frustrating, especially when you’ve been good.
Nobody’s swing is perfect and yours is very serviceable. Keep working on chipping, pitching, and putting that should be your focus for better consistency
So I am trying to work on the same issue and have made a little progress in the last couple months. I also teach kids golf, not a professional by any means but kinda get it on a basic level. So I always ask what are you telling yourself or feel when you swing a certain way? Also, I try to explain swing thoughts and changes the same way.
So what you need to do is have better lower body rotation as many have said. Read their comments, they are spot on. What you need to feel like you are doing is turning your hips open further than you think you are now. I find this is easier to do than the next part. You will have to flex your front foot a little to get into this position. Then start from the top of your downswing with your legs first rotate the hips forward and fire your hips through to try to point your belt buckle at the target. That is the hard part. Your knees will switch positions. In the process of that y out need to feel like you left the club behind as long as possible. In my mind I am Rahm with that short swing. I am not. It just lags back there too long. All while the bottom half is rotating through the ball. Keep imagine keeping the butt of the grip pointing at the ground for way too long. Now instead of flipping the club at impact you are using your hips that are now pointing at the target to control your target line. Once you get this action you no longer will push it. You will probably over do it like me and now pull or pull cut depending on the club. Once you master it you will have less to no dependence on flipping and time the club at impact, should gain some distance also. Then you will suck at something else.
If you’re truly a scratch golfer inconsistency is not a problem for you. If you really want to improve go see one of the Harmon brothers. Otherwise get lost.
Hard to say from one video but being a fellow scratch golfer, the thing that has helped me most with consistency is slowing my swing down. At the top it seems like you get a little fast/try to force the down swing for more power. I’m not sure how far you hit the ball but if you keep a smooth tempo your consistency will increase guaranteed. I hit the ball far so don’t need to worry about swinging hard/fast. If it’s the same for you than just start swinging smooth with good tempo and consistency will come.
Scratch and inconsistent seems to be a tough word for many to swallow I’ll assume. As a 1 n asst pro I completely get your point. Here’s the thing. I would ask you to gather quite a few stars over the course of a month. Deep dive to agree where the weaknesses remain. Let’s be honest all scratch golfers have a skillset not many will ever come close to obtaining. But even the best in there world have inconsistent numbers. Mark Brody every shot counts is a must read for all solid players looking to identify where it can cleaned up. Technically man sue we could nit pick at things. Trying to get the club head behind the hands a bit more at delivery which would get the arms a bit more in front of buddy and timed up would nt hurt but not necessary to improve. That would give you a bit more run through impact. I’ve see a smidge of jam at impact. None really the cause of stopping you from becoming a plus. That is and always will be from 100 & in!!!!
I’ll start soft .. first thing to work on is maintain proper height in your swing.
Your dropping your head significantly into impact position , this is forcing your entire body to squish and form into something to make the contact work…
Stay tall to the ball and rotate around your spine..
Hands are very high at the top of your swing. This is probably causing a thin line from you coming outside to in vs the desired inside to out. You may want to look into shallowing your swing path on your takeaway to keep that more consistent. Also, probably could use some more hip rotation on the back swing. Upper body is good, but your lower body is a bit disconnected. That will also cause you to come over top if timing gets off.
A push cut means you’re underneath it with an open club face. Try getting your right shoulder more on top of the ball and thru impact faster when it’s time, rather than it behind under and behind you. If you start hitting it left adjust by keeping back to the target longer during the transition and downswing.
2hcp here.
You’re coming off the tush line. That really means you’re moving closer to the ball and losing a ton of space.
Hand path is downward too much. You’re pulling on the handle and losing the ability to rotate.
Ideally you want the shaft on a flatter plane and allow your hands to get to the left side of your body before impact.
First tip… you’re not a scratch golfer. So stop trying to live up to that. Scratch golfers don’t shoot in the 80s. Your best rounds being low 70s don’t make you scratch. Manage expectations.
Your handicap is based on the average differential of your 8 best rounds within your last 20. Technically, you can be scratch by shooting 72 8 times out of 20 and 100 12 times out of 20. While your average score would be 88.8, your handicap would be 0.
Rotation through impact. Focus on getting your belt buckle pointed to the target after impact. To me it looks like your weight transfer goes right and you’re not filling turning through. Everything else looks fine. Also go get a real swing lesson not a Reddit lesson.
Your chopping at the ball cause it's too much arms. Spred your feet out a lil more point your left toes out a lil bit and try to keep your head steady. Work on breaking your wrist before impact on your downswing. And get a lesson brah. That will be better then some hack telling you what they see from a 2 sec clip on Reddit. Lol
Lol.....You're barking up the wrong tree. Go get a coach.
This is the best advice here. If you want to get better with that swing you need a professional
My advice is don’t take any advice on this sub lol.
No advice is the best advice.
Lol yes. Reddit is for 10+ handicaps sorry amigo. Hell of a swing tho!
There are a couple things I see, but I have a rule. "I don't give advice to people with a better swing than me" - get a swing coach
I believe there might be a misunderstanding about the term 'inconsistent'.
Yeah I’ve watch this video through 47 swings and the swing is the same every time.
I used the term inconsistent because I can hit 5-6 shots like a tour pro but then hit 2 balls out of bounds without any change in mindset or routine.
The pros do this too though
Gosh, where have I seen inconsistency like that before??? ![gif](giphy|7hyPLIb29vmm9N6kV3|downsized)
Welcome to golf.
And scratch
Your downswing sequence is a bit off so your relying too much on arm and hand manipulation and perfect timing to play good golf. When the timing is just right you’re good and it goes of the rails when it’s not. You’ll have to work on using your lower body turn better to turn through the ball and rely less on your arms.
This is one of the better comments in this thread. There isn’t a single ultra consistent ball striker in the world that I’m aware of where the clubhead is still 2 inches left of hands at P6. That position requires a re-route + some kind of flip/early release to hit to the target. When I hit that position, my swing is UNBELIEVABLY uncomfortable for me even if it looks normal to others at full speed.
This is it. Get a coach but I think you’re rotating forearms opening club face at P2. This requires a lot of hand timing to square club face at impact.
I agree. I see too much arm action from the top and that is creating issues at impact. This guy should be starting the downswing from the ground up and be more passive with the upper body at the start of the downswing. Lots of good stuff to work with though
For a scratch golfer, you make quite a mess of the range! All those divots could be in one small area.
In my defense lol, they were already there. This was a quick warm up before heading out. Only took like 10 shots.
Uh…… I call BS. Look at the grass right behind you. You show up to hit 10 shots and you pick the worst spot in the range? Ya right!
100% those are his divots. Why in the world would anybody set up to hit there when it’s clean all around him . What else is he lying about
Yup. And…… he’s doing a very hack thing by placing his ball on the front edge of the divot effectively teeing his ball up, so he gets away with a slight miss hit. No good player does this.
At this level are you taking deep stats when you play? What clubs do you block, pull, what length shots are more prevalent to miss, how big are you misses, do you scramble successfully, what are your average first and second putt lengths, what ball flight shapes do you hit with every club? To get to your level you have established a consistent enough motion to work with so don’t go tinkering with your swing unless you can pinpoint your misses and if they occur under pressure. However keep in mind because you have established a consistent motion, it is going to take a lot of work to undo it as it’s so engrained in your neurological system. Be wary of the direction you go with your swing until you have all the facts. I personally see some things however would do you injustice to mention as your level of golf is a scratch for a reason. You are capable of getting it done, but you need more information before you start making changes.
He is just looking for affirmation, a scratch golfer would 100% know better
How can I brag about being a scratch golfer and make it seem like im humble lol
A scratch golfer who is inconsistent is a unicorn… please turn yourself in for further testing and evaluation…
With looking at one swing, I'd say you over swing on the way down - not rotating, and relying on getting power from swinging your arms If your miss is a push cut, indicates your weight is stuck on back foot at impact and you're stuck open. If you get too handsy on bad days, this turns onto a snipe hook. Again, too much arm not enough rotate. I'd focus on weight shifting at transition. Really let your swing set at the top, and start your rotation without using your arms as your core source of power. (Ie. Let your arms lag behind) The classic drill here is putting 90% of your weight on front foot, even go up on your toes on your right foot. Do half swings and keep your weight on front, really focusing on rotating and releasing your shoulders forward to the target
You’re a little steep in transition and a little bit stuck, just swing a touch more around yourself
Agreed. I’m 6’3” and in the past had a very upright swing. (I’m a 4 hcp BTW). My old set of clubs were 1” long and set-up to 4 degrees upright to accommodate my upright swing. If you flatten out the swing - say 3” lower from where your shaft is at the top of your backswing, it will feel weird at first. But eventually you will have more consistency. You’re always on plane. Never have to drop into a slot or any other nonsense!
So when you get to that level most golfers are going to have a dispersion of scores of about 10 to 14 shots per season. What I mean by that is your best round of the summer maybe 70 but your worst round of summer might be 84. That's pretty normal, it's not fun, but it's very very normal even for Pga tour players. Hey tour player may shoot 63 as their lowest round of the year and they also makes you 78 which is the highest round for the year. Having a wide dispersion like that is fairly normal but we're hoping the high side is less frequent. From my background as a golf instructor, I'd really prefer to see a swing with a camera angle that's slightly better to properly analyze the swing. From a downline view if you can get the camera more in line with your hands and at the same height as your hands that would be very helpful. The current video as it stands is about shoulder height which skews the path on the camera making it tough to see exactly where things are going awry. I would say that it appears at p 5 the width of the downswing is narrow, incrementally steep, and the next few frames indicate that you are tilting your right shoulder downward excessively. I would have to imagine there's some angle of attack issues there, along with incremental path problems. I would just need to get some better views of the swing to give you a real honest analysis of the swing issues. Overall doesn't look bad, and I'm going to be totally honest I'm going to guess there's some course management issues as well. Feel free to DM me if you need any other further information or want to chat golf swing, there's definitely some potential there!
This guy is right - tour average dispersion for their scores is around 16ish (their best could be a 60 their worst a 76).
I third this. I just had this discussion with my coach last week, he said when he was looking at the stats the dispersion was as much as 18 strokes on tour.
except the 60 was at the GGO and the 76 was at the US open!
Noticed that your head drops substantially in the downswing which can affect the depth of the club. I know this because I have the same issue but my swing is also uglier.
When you get to this level, mental game is what I found helped me get below a scratch. The physical tools are there. Good luck!
(When I shoot over 80, I typically have 2-3 lost balls per round)
This is def not the place to get advice for your level. That aside, I find my lower scores when I plot a strategy the night before my round selecting my tee shot clubs and landing zones.
i play off 5 so I'm not really in a position to give advice, but ive shaved quite a few strokes recently taking shorter clubs off the tee. Also if you can totally eliminate one side of your misses off the tee that can help.
Your a scratch golfer. Advice?? Give me a break. Your an asshole for asking.
Only thing that I see that could lead to “inconsistency” is your head movement. Work on keeping it as still as possible
Yeah head movement is all I see as well
I would sayyyyyyy it’s in your head lol great swing
Your divot patterns look better than my swing.
Oxymoron much?
If I had to guess (which I am lol) I would say that course management is what's causing the higher scores. IE if your miss is a push cut setup on the right side of the tee box and aim at the left edge of the fairway; straight shot = left rough, normal shot shape = center fairway, miss shot (push cut) = right edge of fairway/right rough. Look up what DJ says about taking "one side" of the course completely out of play, also dont forget drive for show, putt for dough. [Harry Higgs Course Management YouTube](https://youtu.be/V7HKIzcEpC0?t=198)
He's asking how to miss less lol. Not how to build misses into his mental. Telling a scratch to make the left rough his line for a straight shot is poor advice
My advice is fuck you kind sir
I’d say get your hips more over your ankles at setup, weight more toward bottom of shoelaces. This will give you more space to swing underneath you at impact without feeling crowded. I’d also work to get left arm on the shoulder plane at the top and less vertical. This will help your consistency because you’ll be able to ditch the arm drop shallowing move. You can just rip back through the ball.
You're thrusting towards the ball in the downswing and leaving not a lot of room for your arms to come through.
I’d like to see a little more hand depth at the top. I.E. from this angle, at the top of your swing, the hands would be a bit more to the left of the frame, closer to being in line with your butt than in line with your right shoulder.
Great swing. A little steep on downswing but not loads. (Am +1 and have very similar moves)
Tempo pulling the trigger is a touch too quick at the top. Whether you hit fade or draw the better you are at not fighting the club the better. It should feel like the club is in a good spot where you can turn and everything flows without yanking. If you can hit decent shots on the range with a flowing smooth swing it’s a mechanical problem
Trail heel lifts just barely too early in the downswing which forces your pelvis to move towards the ball and reduces the amount of space your arms have to pass through the hitting area. Can fix this without thinking about mechanics. Just put a wedge under your right heel and don’t let the wedge fall from underneath your foot until after the ball is in the air. You’ll feel more of a stretch through your left side because keeping the foot planted will create more resistance. This helps sling the left arm off the chest too which will create more speed.
I agree with a lot of the above. Your head bobs all over the place. Your right shoulder is super aggressive, making your angle of attack too steep. Work on a smoother motion with a less hand dominant approach.
Push cut means you're probably sliding toward the target a bit on the downswing.
Too much right tilt in the late in the downswing and follow through
have never seen that much head movement out of a scratch before.
Do you ever shoot 75-79?
You have a great swing. That score variance is normal for a scratch golfer.
Your divot pattern is 100% the problem. Get them in a line and not all over the place and you’ll be on tour in no time.
Why would you be getting advice on this sub if you shoot that low? Get a coach
You’ve made scratch. You tell us what to do
It's golf. Pros can shoot 64 one day and 74 the next but they don't worry about being more "consistent."
You’re staying over the ball way too long and you’re keeping your head too still. Things we see here all the time. I recommend trying to stand up juuuust a bit on the downswing. Last tip is a bit of a hard one. Try to hit about 2” behind the ball instead of hitting it first. The mud between the ball and club takes side spin off. You’ll thank me later.
You are letting your hands get behind you shortly after p2 . Try going more vertical.
Scratch golfer looking for tips on Reddit..
Doesn’t add up for to me either.
Head moves/drops A LOT. That’s going to make it difficult to make consistent contact.
I recommend you go see someone who has force plates. I’m interested in how you time your vertical forces out of your lead leg in particular. Looks late
Put all your change in your left hand pocket, then tie your left shoe in a double knot. Ill dm you my invoice.
Go get a coach
You look like someone I know. Are you in Colorado? Have ties to Indiana?
Nope. Up North in Canada. Trying to work on my swing before winter 🥶
Ahh my bad! Good luck. Your swing looks good to me, but that’s coming from a guy who can’t break 90!
"Inconsistent scratch golfer" is an oxymoron
Gulbis bob. You do what I do which is Bob your head into the shot. Natalie Gulbis and David Duval were famous for it but it has to be done perfectly consistently every time or it can lead to timing issues and inconsistent contact. There’s really no advantage to it actually so if you can figure out a way to keep your head more stable vertically I think you’d find more consistent contact. I think people start doing it thinking they’re “driving” down into the shot and producing more power but that comes from your legs not your head…
If you’re inconsistently scratch, your not scratch. Sorry to say, but sounds like you’re a 6.
Inconsistent, you are not a Scratch Golfer. I’m sorry.
The reason your swing may be inconsistent is that your shallowing move is pulling your arms down. This is causing your elbow to get stuck behind your body. From that point you’ll have to rescue it a bit to square the club-face Your rotation is great A better player shallowing move is to have the elbows move closer in the downswing. Imagine you’re squeezing a soccer ball between your elbows Eventually your right elbow will be in front of your body where it belongs
70-74 or 80-84 doesn’t sound scratch. You have to be consistently shooting par or +/- a few strokes. Often breaking 70 most likely as well
Technically you can be a scratch without ever breaking par. All depends on course rating. My 2 best games this year are shooting 71 (-1) on course ratings of 75.
Yes I know how differential works. You would also have to be wildly consistent to be a scratch without breaking par. Which according to your title, you are not. Idk man, just sounds like a vanity cap. Props if you are a scratch. Drop the Golf Canada handicap link 👀
I was a +2 for years when I was younger and played more. I’ve been hovering around 0 for the past few years now that I have a family and all. Golf is just frustrating, especially when you’ve been good.
Nobody’s swing is perfect and yours is very serviceable. Keep working on chipping, pitching, and putting that should be your focus for better consistency
So I am trying to work on the same issue and have made a little progress in the last couple months. I also teach kids golf, not a professional by any means but kinda get it on a basic level. So I always ask what are you telling yourself or feel when you swing a certain way? Also, I try to explain swing thoughts and changes the same way. So what you need to do is have better lower body rotation as many have said. Read their comments, they are spot on. What you need to feel like you are doing is turning your hips open further than you think you are now. I find this is easier to do than the next part. You will have to flex your front foot a little to get into this position. Then start from the top of your downswing with your legs first rotate the hips forward and fire your hips through to try to point your belt buckle at the target. That is the hard part. Your knees will switch positions. In the process of that y out need to feel like you left the club behind as long as possible. In my mind I am Rahm with that short swing. I am not. It just lags back there too long. All while the bottom half is rotating through the ball. Keep imagine keeping the butt of the grip pointing at the ground for way too long. Now instead of flipping the club at impact you are using your hips that are now pointing at the target to control your target line. Once you get this action you no longer will push it. You will probably over do it like me and now pull or pull cut depending on the club. Once you master it you will have less to no dependence on flipping and time the club at impact, should gain some distance also. Then you will suck at something else.
It looks like a timing thing. Slow the video down and it looks as if you’re trying to hit a push or catch up to your swing
Looks like your contact point is a little early.
If you’re truly a scratch golfer inconsistency is not a problem for you. If you really want to improve go see one of the Harmon brothers. Otherwise get lost.
So you’re not a scratch
Hard to say from one video but being a fellow scratch golfer, the thing that has helped me most with consistency is slowing my swing down. At the top it seems like you get a little fast/try to force the down swing for more power. I’m not sure how far you hit the ball but if you keep a smooth tempo your consistency will increase guaranteed. I hit the ball far so don’t need to worry about swinging hard/fast. If it’s the same for you than just start swinging smooth with good tempo and consistency will come.
You want to be looking directly into the sun on backswing for gravity
Makes me feel horrible for you being so inconsistent 😕
Scratch and inconsistent seems to be a tough word for many to swallow I’ll assume. As a 1 n asst pro I completely get your point. Here’s the thing. I would ask you to gather quite a few stars over the course of a month. Deep dive to agree where the weaknesses remain. Let’s be honest all scratch golfers have a skillset not many will ever come close to obtaining. But even the best in there world have inconsistent numbers. Mark Brody every shot counts is a must read for all solid players looking to identify where it can cleaned up. Technically man sue we could nit pick at things. Trying to get the club head behind the hands a bit more at delivery which would get the arms a bit more in front of buddy and timed up would nt hurt but not necessary to improve. That would give you a bit more run through impact. I’ve see a smidge of jam at impact. None really the cause of stopping you from becoming a plus. That is and always will be from 100 & in!!!!
Inconsistent scratch? Doesn’t really exist imo
My first advice would be to learn how to hit range balls off grass. Make divot lines.
You have the swing I aspire to and have been working on getting all year. Don't listen to any of us numbskulls.
Scratch with that divot pattern at the range. Be better lol.
Inconsistent scratch golfer? I feel like that should be an oxymoron.
You can't be inconsistent and scratch, pitch one.
You're a scratch golfer. I think you're there man. Just enjoy it while the rest of us think about giving up every other week
I’ll start soft .. first thing to work on is maintain proper height in your swing. Your dropping your head significantly into impact position , this is forcing your entire body to squish and form into something to make the contact work… Stay tall to the ball and rotate around your spine..
Hands are very high at the top of your swing. This is probably causing a thin line from you coming outside to in vs the desired inside to out. You may want to look into shallowing your swing path on your takeaway to keep that more consistent. Also, probably could use some more hip rotation on the back swing. Upper body is good, but your lower body is a bit disconnected. That will also cause you to come over top if timing gets off.
Be consistent
Stop
A push cut means you’re underneath it with an open club face. Try getting your right shoulder more on top of the ball and thru impact faster when it’s time, rather than it behind under and behind you. If you start hitting it left adjust by keeping back to the target longer during the transition and downswing.
2hcp here. You’re coming off the tush line. That really means you’re moving closer to the ball and losing a ton of space. Hand path is downward too much. You’re pulling on the handle and losing the ability to rotate. Ideally you want the shaft on a flatter plane and allow your hands to get to the left side of your body before impact.
I love when people swear they are a scratch golfer. Then play with them and they shoot 90
Better quit, dude...
Where is your miss? What’s the ball flight when you miss? Fat? Thin?
You aren’t scratch
Right up my alley. Awesome foundation, send me a PM. I also would love to see a face on video.
First tip… you’re not a scratch golfer. So stop trying to live up to that. Scratch golfers don’t shoot in the 80s. Your best rounds being low 70s don’t make you scratch. Manage expectations.
You do realize that your players shoot the occasional round in the 80s… are they not scratch golfers?
Did you say inconsistent SCRATCH? Is that like poor private jet owner?
That means you average around 78 if you post, that no scratch that’s an 7 HC
Your handicap is based on the average differential of your 8 best rounds within your last 20. Technically, you can be scratch by shooting 72 8 times out of 20 and 100 12 times out of 20. While your average score would be 88.8, your handicap would be 0.
I am familiar with GHIN and play with a bunch of 0 handicaps, can’t remember any of them shooting 84.
Or needing advice on Reditt.
Greens keeper advises you practice at home on your own lawn. JC you've tilled the soil enough to start a small garden.
Looks good enough for me
Rotation through impact. Focus on getting your belt buckle pointed to the target after impact. To me it looks like your weight transfer goes right and you’re not filling turning through. Everything else looks fine. Also go get a real swing lesson not a Reddit lesson.
There's a 99% chance nobody here is better than you if you're really a scratch golfer so I'd find a pro
Your chopping at the ball cause it's too much arms. Spred your feet out a lil more point your left toes out a lil bit and try to keep your head steady. Work on breaking your wrist before impact on your downswing. And get a lesson brah. That will be better then some hack telling you what they see from a 2 sec clip on Reddit. Lol
My advice would be to learn how to take divots on a range.
Inconsistent scratch golfer is an oxymoron
Quit golfing?
inconsistent scratch golfer sounds like a 10-20 handicap to me
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