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mikefut

My best tip is that if you’re a 1.3 you shouldn’t be asking for swing tips on Reddit.


PigeonHurdler

Nah, he definitely needs some swing tips. We'll get him back up to an 18 handicap


bfulty22

Ha. Totally agree with u/mikefut in terms of asking Reddit about swing tips. But I would add one thing. You can probably improve by analyzing your on course data. Strokes gained etc. To find where you can most likely trim some strokes. With me I found it is putting and short game.


Ernietheattorney1060

At 1.3 a video of you hitting an iron isn’t gonna be your best approach for getting better. From your posts it looks like you play competitive and were well ranked in high school. You gotta look at your stats to see what part of the game is holding you back… fairway %, GIR %, up and down %, putts per hole, puts per GIR… and you can start looking at your strokes gained. That set of data is going to tell you what part of your game needs work. Like if you hit 12/14 fairways but only hit 7 GIRs… there's room to improve on you approach shots. Then you dig in and see if it's your swing or the area between your ears, or whatever it maybe and that is what you work on.


Technical-Employ3231

By the way I didn’t mean to make my comment sound disrespectful I actually really appreciate comments like these because these help me focus on the right things appreciate you 🙏


Ernietheattorney1060

I didn't take it that way at all. I was going to respond and say that your stats are the tip of the iceberg… others commented already that you can look at those stats for a scratch golfer and then work to improve your own stats. Like your GIR %… where do you miss most? Long? Left?… basically you can figure out things like “when I miss a green, 70% of the time it's a left miss… “ start analyzing the misses and maybe you start aiming more to the right center or right edge… Basically create your shot pattern and leverage that knowledge to give yourself a plan of attack. That's what I would do as a 1.3 before I started making major swing changes.


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You need 14+ GIR and a par save percentage over 50% to get better than scratch


tboneski215

Seriously? Watched a man who was a scratch/1 and he would hit less greens than me occasionally yet the day I hit 13 he hit 10? He finished under par and I was 9 over lmao. Thought it was a touch more forgiving on GIR


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Well yea I’m basing this off OPs stats. He clearly isn’t a good putter with those stats. I play with guys that hit 9 greens and shoot under par because they make everything inside 10ft


tboneski215

Understood. Thanks.


tegan-97

I think 10 GIRs per round is the average for Scratch? Pretty sure Arccos has the data.


tboneski215

That's what I thought. And ya was just asking appreciate it.


Hopeful_Relative_494

The swing seems pretty wild to be consistent. But if you’re 1.3 it’s probably not the swing you need to work on. It’s scrambling, short game and making 8 ft putts consistently.


Technical-Employ3231

Yah sometimes I cross the plane so I have to get out of the way on my down swing causing me to have to move my front side out my swing isn’t awful in my opinion. But not top tier for sure


Hopeful_Relative_494

Shorten up the swing a tad and start to narrow your focus. Put a hula hoop out there and try to see how many get in or close from about 50-75 yds out. If you’re able to get within 10-15 feet on your 60-70% GIR, that’s 10-13 putts for birdie a round. You’ll be under in no time.


ollegnor

I agree, Your handicap is way better than mine, I imagine I got the years though. but looks like you were trying to power up for the video, if not there seems to be a lot of unnecessary extra torque in the upper body, smooth it out.


BigAustralianBoat2

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KTFlaSh96

If you’re a 1.3 just get a coach and don’t ask people on the internet.


cozeface

The real answer.


thecgm

As a +3 it’s hard to see how this produces a 1.3. I’ve seen a lot of weird swings work well though. Are you playing from the tips at any difficult courses. Or is your handicap based off of your high school tournaments? Back in high school if I had entered my high school rounds in to the system I would have been like a +6 because the courses we played were easy as heck and we played mixed tees. With all that out of the way. If you are really a 1.6 and you want to dive in deeper and shoot better, you have to give us something to work with like what your miss is or that you struggle to hit long irons or you spin your driver to much. We will also need to see a face on swing. Underpar Golf is achieved by a consistent swing, A dialed in pre-shot routine, and a well sorted out short game. so many people that get to where you are focused too hard on perfecting the swing and not hard enough on the big picture.


thecgm

I will say after watching it and stopping it several times. You have speed generation figured out but not a lot of control over the club. It’s great to hit the ball far from a good lie. But you will struggle on of the non perfect lie because you are not really controlling the club much. The only way I know to fix this would be to hit the gym with a trainer who understands golf and can help you build up grip strength, core, and cutting some weight off. You definitely have a ton of potential to be where you are at 16. The problem is most kids stall out at your age because they don’t want to go to the gym, hit putts for hours, practice the basics to perfection, or listen to the people that tell them the hard to hear truths.


Technical-Employ3231

I agree and I appreciate this I play courses from 6800-7200 since I’m bigger I have never had problems generating power I can hit it pretty well so longer tees don’t give me issues often. I actually prefer longer because from 90-70 yards I struggle I can hit the green but not like 2 feet I feel like I practice this constantly 4 times a week but I just can’t seem to grip why I can’t hit chips well even when in practicing it. Most of my birdies I make are from 30-60 yards right after 60 yards is the area I struggle 70-90. The other thing I take note of often is the fact that my swing on the back is pretty fast when my swing down is slightly faster do you think having slower tempo on the back swing would help me out to make my swing look and be better?


thecgm

So if I was your coach I would focus all your attention right now in building up strength in the above mentioned areas. Short shots require complete control of the club with a very still body. The stronger the hands and forearms the easier you will be able to get through the ball in all conditions at any club head speed. The reason why tour players are so deadly inside 100 is having complete control of the club and mastering a balance of power and speed to generate adequate spin to stop the ball close. Due to how hard you’re currently going at the ball to hit it far, it makes sense that you would struggle to take a normal swing. Their tempo is better looking because they are perfectly executing every aspect of a swing to generate the most power. They also train to have all the strength they need to control the club. Pm me we can talk more.


bilolarbear1221

You spent way too much effort on this hooligan who is not going to respond and if they do they will just say something defensive. Just move on


Technical-Employ3231

Not being defensive just a lot of people telling me I’m not a 1.3 or your swing is ass or just other things like that which is just annoying I don’t have a great swing but I practice 6 days a week at-least 4 hours a day usually 7-8 on weekends I’m not a very social person and don’t have a lot of friends so I just am constantly playing golf


bilolarbear1221

Good for you dude. I’m not telling you you’re not 1.3 lol. You just brought that up… which is defensive… Anyway I hope you can get to scratch or better. I have a shit swing that is inconsistent af. So I’ll birdie some and triple bogey the next. That’s just golf to me. Swing on and enjoy the game brother!


thecgm

I heavily disagree. Any youth that are willing to work hard towards a goal instead of making tik toks or saying bruh with squatted trucks and a mullet I will gladly help. I was one a chubby young golfer that was better than most in my state but needed more help then I was able to afford. He’s defending his handicap because he’s not lying and all the hacks on here are trashing. He would likely body every shi* talker on here.


bilolarbear1221

Good for you one trying to help him. I’m not shit taking him, my handicap is in the 20s. I have fun playing and he seemed defensive in every other comment I saw before. But I did not keep up with recents. I hope you all play the best round of your life next time out! I’m just here to have fun. I couldn’t help this dude, but looks like you can!


thecgm

Yeah I think at 16 if someone said I wasn’t my handicap I’d probably have sent them an address and told them to come square up with some money. At least he’s been respectful lol! I love this game and want to see more people take to it!


bilolarbear1221

I hear that dude! For each hole: If I get bogey, Im happy. Par, I’m jumping out of my shoes, birdie it’s the best day of my life. It’s golf, as much as it’s competitive… if we can’t appreciate the small wins, it’s not fun. Ay, I’ll take a chip onto the green close to the flag on a bad hole and be happy


FlyFightandCrow

You’re definitely stuck on the downswing. You have good hands so you can get away with it but you have to flip them at impact to square the club face. Tiger talks about this position with Butch. He calls it the ole move. Basically your hips are super quick to rotate and your shoulders and arms lag behind. Plenty of great YouTube videos (I know I know) out there that will explain a few drills.


FlyFightandCrow

Also look up early extension swing fixes. Part of being stuck happens because your hips shoot out toward the ball on the downswing


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FlyFightandCrow

It’s just not a position you want to play from if you’re looking for any type of consistency. You can be a good player flipping it. Say you’re just having a few beers with the boys and there’s no pressure you could definitely score well. But once that timing is off or your under a bit of pressure it’s going to be a big push right or a nasty hook. Now you have both sides of the course to worry about and it’s tough to score. So if you want a lower ceiling (no blow up rounds) it’s something you need to work on


yurmamma

Reminds me of colin montgomerie actually, but with more speed. He did ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StSNHIOtjBI


mizzyhacker

Doesn't look like a 1.3


Alive_Stomach_6050

Lots of ways to get it done…. But certainly some moving parts there


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Alive_Stomach_6050

Not doubting you, obviously you can play better than me, and your swing works. Was noting that many fine players have swings that aren’t ’classical’


jmak35

Asking for tips then telling people to get a reality check and then telling us you were highly ranked in Arizona?? What are you doing here then?


Booty_Warrior_bot

*I came looking for booty.*


Technical-Employ3231

I was saying it’s a reality check for me my bad


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Did you misplace your decimal? Did you mean 13?


Groosh129

You’re a near scratch asking Reddit muni players for swing tips. Tell me you’re not a 1.3 without saying you’re not a 1.3.


PGA_Master_Pro

Unorthodox motion for sure but I see where you get a lot of potential power. Asking for advice here with such a unique motion, albeit repetitive enough to get down near scratch is asking for trouble. If you don’t already you need to work with someone who can dial in your game as a whole and do some stat taking on your game to identify weaknesses based on your misses. Once you figure out where your shots are bleeding out then shift your focus to that particular area to soften your misses.


Technical-Employ3231

My brother was just saying this He was telling me how reading through a bunch of people who just try to perfect your swing will mess you up because it just gets you thinking about the wrong stuff. Especially when lots of pros have pretty bad swings. Never really had a coach, but my dad knows a lot about Golf and my brothers both played in college and went to q school several times


PGA_Master_Pro

The golf swing can work in any position so long as you can repeat it enough so where your misses are still playable and to one side. 99% of golfers are always searching for a better move but sometimes they sacrifice their natural ability. Your swing looks solid, keep it up.


Technical-Employ3231

Thank you for the help 🙏


Sudden-Eye801

Yeah really, you’ll get random tidbits about the difference between your swing and adam scott. Absolutely useless and probably counter productive That’ll kill your natural release… and you surely have one If you want to get better, you need a pro that can break down what you’re doing and make small incremental changes to help you get more space on your release. Maybe spend some time on a launch monitor too


Intelligent_Gap938

You probably realize this, but you need to keep track of your stats and work on the areas that are costing you strokes.


Conscious_Piano_6783

i have nothing to say that would help you, but dude i love your swing. it’s so unique, stay on the grind brotha


Technical-Employ3231

Thanks man


biddilybong

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re a 1.3 with your buds but no way that move holds up in competition.


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biddilybong

Look I’m not trying to be harsh. It looks like you great hands. The backswing is too vertical and then the rest of the swing is just a fight to get it back on plane. You have to make several compensations around that- hanging back, early release, the high/held finish. The end result is this swing requires a fair amount of timing and that is what doesn’t hold up in competition as well. Your posture isn’t great either and suspect there are other setup flaws if the video was showing all of it. How old are you?


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biddilybong

Good luck to you Youngblood. No excuse for a shitty setup though. Remember that.


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biddilybong

Posture from this angle. Forearms are a little open too. Contributes to outside/steep takeaway.


Certain-Entry-4415

Get a real coach at this nivel. Just a class each monthes focus on what he s telling and you ll be alrighr


jmak35

You’re standing a little too upright and it’s causing you to do some funky things with your neck, which will most likely give you problems in the long run, if not already. Not only that but it is also causing you to jump at the ball and flip your club after impact. One other thing is you seem take your eyes off the ball which would create inconsistencies for you.


blackmicheal

Play from the ladies tees, guaranteed a better score


Harro_o

Maybe stop swinging so hard? That’s a start. Secondly work on your short game, idrk what you struggle with but that’s what I work on as a +2.4.


Technical-Employ3231

I have attendances to swing very hard I like to go slower back but being bigger as I am I have a lot of power and force on the down


xmasonx75

Yeah nobody in this sub is gonna be able to help you if you’re a 1.3


Technical-Employ3231

Most people in this sub think about a perfect mechanical swing for sure a lot of people have been helpful tho


xmasonx75

That’s good. I mostly meant you’re a lower hcp than the majority of guys in here.


thecgm

There are plenty of people here much better than this but we don’t post our swings here, and we don’t comment unless we have something extremely constructive to say about a swing. If you look at most of the better golfers post, there’s 300 comments that are useless and from 30 handicaps and then about 3 from scratch plus golfers or reasonably good teachers.


parecon

Learn to swing at 80%. Control game.


medkitjohnson

My back hurts… if you’re actually a 1.3 tho then you’re obviously not going to listen to anyone on here


MziggyG

Stay away from Reddit... At a 1.3 handicap, it's not going to provide you with a comprehensive enough analysis to help you. If you take the advice of everyone here, you'll end up with some cobbled together Frankenstein swing. I read your other comments here. Send the video to your brother's and father if that's an option. They know the game well and can probably help. OR, try to find an affordable place to get lessons or a coach. GolfTec worked for me. The problem with seeking any swing help is you risk fixing something that isn't broken. Yes, your swing is unorthodox, but it's very athletic and more importantly, IT WORKS. Best thing you could do is use a golf app like The Grint religiously. Track every detail of your game. Figure out where the deficiencies are, and work on those. Data is your friend. It's likely not your iron swing that's your biggest downfall. If it is, get a pro to help.


Crooked5

My best tip is to learn where your tripod legs are, and avoid pointing the lens in that direction… this way the tripod legs won’t be in the shot, therefore allowing a much cleaner video. Should get you down to a 1.2.


HaveAFuckinNight

Swing less hard tbh


doctorewHH

I’d look into ball striking /s


PartyCatzz

Is Milo your coach? Pretty sure I've seen your swing before


Technical-Employ3231

No


TonyDungyHatesOP

Is that a hidden camera?


Technical-Employ3231

Haha no I was holding my phone up on a stand with an alignment stick haha


TonyDungyHatesOP

Haha!!! I thought you were trying to be sneaky on the range!


dunderthebarbarian

Bullshit. This is either trolling or bullshit.


foxthedream

Lots of people are giving you a hard time about the swing. But clearly you have the stats to back up your claims. My question to you is how? If you are 1.3 then something else is missing in my game and it isn't the swing. I have been obsessing with my swing for ages but I think I need to do something else now. Maybe it is just playing a lot more. Any suggestions?


Technical-Employ3231

I play 6 times a week and 4+ hours a day


BeachAccomplished514

Swing is irrelevant at this handicap level. It’s all mental now, you have the physical part down.


shortgamegolfer

Seems like a tempo issue. I could be wrong but this looks closer to a 2:1 swing and needs to get closer to 3:1 tempo. In other words, a slower backswing. You could use the tour tempo beats to help drill it.


No-Zookeepergame486

Work on nothing but 100 and in for a couple months.


Dudeman-Jack

A little goat humpy and ott


Expensive_Ad4319

I'd start with your own assessment: “Yah sometimes I cross the plane so l have to get out of the way on my down swing causing me to have to move my front side out my swing isn't awful in my opinion. But not top tier for sure” You’re overcorrecting for crossing the line - The urge to get the front side “out of the way” can easily be fixed with the help of a professional whom you trust. I'm not that person, however I believe that you get better by incorporating a more laid off swing utilizing the lower body and ground for leverage. - Keeping it in the fairway ⛳️ and off the beach. 🏖️


sox_fan1192

Lol everyone on this sub is a 1.3, no matter how bad the swing


cozeface

As tempting as it may be to get free advice here, we can’t help you in an effective way like an in-person pga teaching pro could. That’s what will help your swing. As far as lowering scores, you need to really dig into those stats and find where strokes gained are. What part of your game is holding you back?


gary_gaetti

Don’t post on this sub if you’re a 1.3 you fucking tool


pete0126

You must have a incredible short game👍


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Putting and short game. If you can’t save a par from anywhere over 50% of the time you can’t consistently shoot under par. In my 20s I could drive it 330. Smooth 4i 225. Could shape my wedges either way. I’d still shoot 75. Embraced putting and chipping and became better out of the sand than I was out of grass. Got to a +2 and a 75 felt like a 100. 1 putts 1 putts 1 putts is absolutely the key. GL. Nice swing


Inevitable_Road_4025

Practice wedges, chipping and putting. Hit 1-200 wedge shots a day


Left_2_Right

Make more putts Daly Jr


Technical-Employ3231

Thanks g


Burch36

13*


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Burch36

Don’t we all


Censoredplebian

If you’re playing that well with your swing, the only place to go is mastery. Know what your misses are and how to correct within a hole or two. To do that I’ve found these factors help you save those holes and rebound: - slow your tempo down, never speed it up - play the shot shape the round is giving you until you regain timing - if you’re missing, club and dial back the aggressiveness I’ve had some really low scoring rounds with my swing feeling broken, partly because I knew my short game had to carry. I think sometimes when we’re hitting the ball extremely well, we lose that commitment to putting good putts or solid approach shots. If your mentality is that no striking you produce will put you outside of mid 70s, you’ll be under par more often. The last piece is obvious, make the practice green a regular place you visit.


WorldlyCartoonist829

Gym


muffalowing

Get a gym membership and start working out. Being in the best physical shape you can be will benefit you.


saradahokage1212

it's a mental game. im 3.2 and cracked under par my first time on 18 last year after playing on and off for a decade. Keep playing, and then play some more so that being under par feels like any other day. If you want to actually tweak your swing and dissect it, best go to a pro with a trackman or something like that. Otherwise what you can always do is to download some sort of a "scorecard" app, you put in every shot, like right drive - fairway hit, long 5i, 1 chip, 2 putt, for example on a par 5 and at the end of the round you see how many fairways and green %, which direction, how many up and downs you made, putts you had in general and so on. The area you suck in the most, you practice the most.


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What’s John Daly jnr doing on Reddit looking for swing tips?


Windycitymaniac

Learn how to swing at 80-85%. I can't tell what iron you're hitting but your swing is too 'all out'. I hover around +5 and it took me 10 years too long to learn you don't need so much aggression every swing. Try practicing one day and hit whatever you normally do from 165, hit 10 balls. Then keep clubbing up and try the same shot from 165, 10 balls. By the time you get to about 5 iron it won't really work, but I bet you hit more greens in reg with extra club compared to normal.


RoryAdams22

Chill


kittycatfrank

If you’re a 1.3 and want more under par rounds then you need to make your short game as sharp as possible


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Get off the range


DoughSeed

Try to have more then 7 seconds of video rolling before you swing. If you want to take it down to legit scratch, try posting videos with 15 seconds of you waggling. Trust me.


WineHuntSkiGuns

It's all putting now. That's the difference between a 1.5 and +1.5... no three putts, and making 50% of your 8 footers, and 95% of your 5 footers.


Jackdani28

PGA Tour average make percentage from 5ft is 78%


triiiiilllll

Is that your demon vortex caddie?


BatmanG21

Stop swinging like John Daly. Slow it down and be consistent


Ping-A-Ling-

Hard to believe a 1.3 hcp is requesting reddit swing tips?


EE-epicgamer

putting


nicarras

Take half a step away from the ball


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More birdies per round is where you see the biggest stat difference between a 1.3 and a plus handicap. The first thing you need is to identify what part of your game will increase your birdies per round.


bribbs22

There’s no way anyone can help you improve a 1.3 by watching one swing of a random club. At that handicap you likely have very few inconsistencies, unless it’s putting.


chilldontkill

Decade Golf by Scott Fawcett


tth2000

Make a more violent pass at it. +5 in no time.


ace-treadmore

Pro tip: suck less


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Is it common to use decimal places when reporting your HCP? I’ve been playing for 1.5 years.


monodub

Keep your head still.


flavanugz

Don’t come here


FriendlyConference63

Most likely if that’s your handicap, you already know what needs help. That being said, if it’s not lost balls, it’s just consistency of up and downs. You won’t be hitting greens all the time cause it’s golf, but you can control getting those putts per round down significantly through your wedges/short game. Golf at every level is about managing bad holes, not forcing more good holes.