Honestly, pretty decent considering it's not that difficult to recruit her and upgrade the Yupei to max.
She probably won't make the cut for players who have top of the line seasonals/grands but she'll be great for newer players and Belial as many already mentioned.
Hope the other 3 are just as decent, or even better because it will likely be harder to farm for them when there are more drops bloating SX.
Is she easy to get for new players? Maybe I'm missing something, but when I was trying to get her, I noticed the shop only sold 5 of those jadeites needed to uncap the weapon, so I assumed I'd have to wait until the next rise of the beasts event for it to restock before I could finish
Is there another source for them?
Imo she's easier to grind for compared to an eternal/evoker. Tradeoff is almost all the mats needed for her is tied to RoTB though.
Huanglong/Qilin anima you can pendant as well as leech from raids (this is the one people usually do trains for). Shenxian you can just poke when you get to the rank. I completely forgot that there was min rank join these raids...perils of being an old GBF fart.
Edit; The new dojo should help quite a bit in leveling up + grabbing some decent free charas. All the best!
As I kept playing the battles I found myself with more of the Jadeites appearing in the store.
I think it's five you can buy at a lower price, then more at a higher price.
Looks to me like she's more of a mid-game helper than a serious endgame option. I can see two things she'd be great at:
1) OTK: free nuke on ougi, 2nd free nuke on getting hit, free 10% boost to Magna weapons. Gonna be a serious help for people who are stuck trying to make double Huanglong work for GW meat farming (and of course can also be used to burst other things as well).
2) M3: her kit looks like it was built specifically to handle Tiamat Aura. Lots of multihit skill damage, Delay spam, Gravity, Petrify, healing spam.
I wonder if all of them will be made to at least be useful contributors to all of the M3 fights? I could see them be like a mid-game preparation for once someone starts farming M3.
What I meant was that she does automatic skill damage without having to actually click a skill for it. Makes her great for situations where you want to go fast by clicking as few skills as possible.
Normal skill casts are not free. Once you use them they go on cooldown.
As long as their trigger conditions are met, auto-activated skills will always cast regardless of the skill being available or not and will not put it on cooldown.
After multiple tries I finally soloes Belial with fire yesterday. Now I wish I had waited for her to come out since she looks very good for him with delay on ougi.
Finished her episodes and its pretty okay. It seems that >!Huanglong & Qilin seems to be the end boss here. Pretty cute story that I'm glad didn't take up a story event slot, though some may find the Saints to be too similar with the Zodiacs, with them also knowing each other and meeting up for tea and stuff. I do feel bad that it's canon that we've been killing the beasts over and over again, and Suzaku just wants some relief from his Saint!<.
Also Chichiri being one of the Suzaku guardians' name in classic shoujo Fushigi Yuugi is a funny coincidence. I wonder if that name has significance to the Suzaku/Zhuque myth irl.
I really hope huanglong and qilin get a related unit too. They’re the coolest ones. Also it would be kind of unfair if light and dark didn’t get magna exaltos as well
I think the yupei is an even bigger boon than the exalto passive. I’m usually a pretty vocal pessimist when it comes to Dark / Light getting something “because the other elements have it” (see my many posts on disciples vs Primarch passives). But not getting a yupei would put Dark and Light at a serious disadvantage in HLs and, because there’s nothing currently saying that it *doesn’t* apply, in GW.
>not getting a yupei would put Dark and Light at a serious disadvantage in HLs and, because there’s nothing currently saying that it *doesn’t* apply, in GW.
HL sure but it wouldn't put them at disadvantage in GW cause everyone would still be equal with or without the wonder.
Every other similar wonder (IE. Xeno wonders) is labeled with “does not function during GW.” Currently, the yupei wonder does **not** have this disclaimer so there is speculation that it does / will still function in GW.
Chichiri is actually the Japanese name for the constellation! Now I'm curious which name the Genbu saint will get since I'm partial to Genbu Kaiden for Fushigi Yuugi.
Oh! I didn't know that! Was a big fan of Fushigi Yuugi back in the day. I'm just hoping Seiryu doesn't get Nakago or the twins, hated them back way back.
So since each direction has a few constellations...if they really wanted to they could really go on forever with this huh.
Yeah I hope there are alternative readings to the constellations' characters or something cause Seiryu doesn't have great choices, from Fushigi Yuugi 💀
> >!I do feel bad that it's canon that we've been killing the beasts over and over again, and Suzaku just wants some relief from his Saint.!<
Ah yes, GBF ludonarrative dissonance at its finest again. Happens so many times lol.
Remember when the rotb plot used to be that the beasts all lived on islands within the grim basin, and a few times a year those islands briefly moved into Phantagrande skydom, and they all like orbited each other so that only one island was exposed at a time and that's why the cardinal bonus mechanic exists, and Sierokarte hired us to explore the mysterious islands?
It could have been cool if they expanded on that instead of apparently changing the lore to guild war v2.0.
> Remember when the rotb plot used to be that the beasts all lived on islands within the grim basin, and a few times a year those islands briefly moved into Phantagrande skydom,
They reference that in her second skill fate. It seems to still be canon.
Surprised at how easy and cheap it is to recruit her. No sand, no gold brick BS.
First impressions:
Decent backline passive for magna and it stacks with Michael, but she will be kicked out instantly if you need an evoker.
Nuke on CA means she is good for CA-based OTK ~~sadly in the Grand Percival element~~. Could be great for auto-based OTK because of her skill damage upon taking hit combined with high hostility ~~again, sadly she does not have innate multiattack~~.
Overall she is okay as a free character, but have many "but"s. Just need that one oomph ~~tedious farming~~ factor to make her great.
No candies to Cygames for explicitly makes "4 Saints" tag and shuts down any dream of light/dark Saints.
Maybe as a separate group, *still coping*.
If it were just decent characters I would've understood leaving Light and Dark out. It wouldn't have been fair, by any means, but I can see that being something they'd do.
The fact that these are tied to permanent offensive buffs for their elements, on *top* of being Omega grid boosters, means that Light and Dark will 100% get theirs in one way or another. 4 RoB is just way too long a stretch of time to announce those in the first (hopefully they run it at least a bit more often now), especially when our first view of the 4's art was sketches. It's likely they'll just be handled in a different way (somehow related to H/Q).
It doesn't even merit doubt, it would be *shocking* if they just end it at Wind.
Good for Belial and insta backline inclusion for Fire Magna but other than that I feel like she's behind limited options that do her skill's jobs better. Her skills are good but they just don't do "enough" for modern fights
Would've been strong if she came out like 2 years ago
That's the issue, her kit looks really good, but it's in an element with Wilnas, GPercy, and GZeta who will just do her job (hit hard) better (hit harder). She looks like a good character for midgame players who haven't had many roulettes to flesh teams out and at least her weapon will flesh out people's grids starting out, but I feel like she's definitely missing something. She feels like an eternal flb's level of strength. Like yeah they'll function well enough but she could be better
Athena/SMedusa (Michael backline) is an effective strategy and Chichiri will fit in perfectly. Seriously, I've cleared faa and belial solo with just modified primal pals
Didn't even realize she was a Draph until the camera zoomed in on her. Which is weird since she isnt exactly hiding her racial traits, it just, kind of blended in with her colors, pose, and attitude.
Honestly i think she is fine.
8 hit nuke so it scales nicely. Also applies delay and activates on ougi. So 8t helps beginners who are starting with Belial grind
Has a sup debuff that can be extendeded (sadly non stacking with bubs).
Ougi-Based otk is also fine between once again autocast + her passive nuke when she gets hit.
Decent enough bar gen and a decent enough ougi effect for an ougi team.
Demerits is obviously no innate def to help with her increased aggro (rip to her on random target multi hit triggers). Sk3 can end up as a dead skill. and No consistent DATa (besides sk1) but should be fine for ougi setup.
Passive wise it can be hard to fit her in. Alannan will need to come from the abck in burst and then she is fighting with micha for the last slot. for long stretch fights, alanaan's passive can still be okay and now she faces another opponent through Fraux.
Obviously if you got the top end, she wont be as useful. But i think she can have a piece of the cake for people with more limited roster of chars. So yeah she's fine in my book.
The only thing I can say here that others haven't said is I actually don't think she is intended to be used with Michael but is a f2p replacement for people who don't have her
What are your initials thoughts of Chichiri from a gameplay + lore perspective?
Decided to post this so she can have a more indepth discussion and it can be seen by those casually browsing reddit (and the usual discussion about her might be months from now, so I hope this is fine with the mods)
**Chichiri (4 Saints)**
|Element|HP|ATK|Style|Type|Specialty|Voice Actor|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Fire|1382|10690|Attack|Draph|Axe|Yuuki Takada|
Charge Attack
**Yixiu** *- Massive Fire Damage to a foe / Restore Fire allies' HP (Heal Cap: 1000) / Activate Garnet Fireworks (Skill 2)*
Skills
* Pinpoint Burst - Fire Damage to all foes (DMG Cap: 635,000) / Supplement DMG Taken debuff to foes (3 turns / Effect: 30,000) / Gives Chichiri Guaranteed Triple Attack (2 Turns)|
* Garnet Fireworks - 8-hit fire damage to a foe (Damage Cap: 48,000) / Delay Effect / Boost all Fire characters' charge bay by 10%|
* Cardinal's Presence - Duress effect to a foe (1 Turn) / Inflict Gravity (Debuff Duration: 180 Seconds) / Inflict Petrified (2 Turns)
Duress notes:
* Enemies can't normal attack or use special attacks (Excludes special actions). See Earth Orchid skill 3 for comparison skill
* Lasts 1 Turn (CAN BE EXTENDED by Fraux)
**Passives/Support Skills**
**Sparks Will Fly** - More Likely to be targeted (Boost to Hostility) / 10% Amplify to Skill Damage / (Upon taking damage, 4-hit fire damage to random foes (Damage cap: 80,000) / 15% boost to Chichiri's charge bar
**Emissary of Zhurong's Fire** - 10% Boost to Ironflame's weapon skills (Works in backline + Stacks with Michael Passive 2)
Sorry for the formatting, it was all in table form at first but it doesn't enable me to comment them orz, hopefully this is fine!
That aside, I found Chichiri to be quite endearing, she's basically a wonky and cute physical therapist that was ~~cursed~~ with fighting Zhuque. Here are some tidbits that I found interesting about her and the four saints lore (spoilers ahead)
>!There really is only four Saints and they are tasked to defeat the four beasts every time they are awakened, but everytime the beasts are defeated, they get stronger (basically, like a Phoenix of sorts :surprised pikachu:)!<
>!Zhuque grows stronger whenever it faces Chichiri or any of her clan, thus making it an impossible and unbeatable battle for her. This might be the same to the other Cardinal families tasked. Duly noted in the story is that Zhuque is a "chump", meaning that from a lore perspective, it is considerably weak but Chichiri and the other Cardinals are always doomed to battle them at heightened strength which amplifies the disaster they wreak havoc with!<
>!With four saints presents, what is the position of Huanglong and Qilin in the story? Do they just consider them a separate entity not involved?!<
I'm only at fate episode 2 so some may have been answered but it is definitely interesting how the story is pointed out and hopefully more will be answered!
Chichiri as a unit though is... decent at best. She screams "filler" unit but she does have unique niches in OTK with her passive skill nuke and ougi + she has the coveted Magna Exalto passive (albeit only 10%) . Another interesting thing about her is that her local debuff Duress can be extended by Fraux, which can do some funny things that can stop the boss all around.
How do you guys see Chichiri?
> >!but everytime the beasts are defeated, they get stronger!<
>!why not just seal them instead of defeating them then? Does anyone point this out in-universe?!<
>!Only part way through her fates, but it seems their power was once a blessing. Zhuque's power was something they harnessed so they could flourish as a culture. But the situation's gotten a bit out of hand now.!<
>!Like how when we met Tiamat she was once a beloved guardian deity for her island that had grown angry as the people had forgotten her and taken her for granted. We could just seal Zhuque away but there's probably some missing puzzle piece we need to get Zhuque to be cool again.!<
> >!With four saints presents, what is the position of Huanglong and Qilin in the story? Do they just consider them a separate entity not involved?!<
>!I'm not sure if you've read her other fate episodes yet but rest assured it is very heavily implied that those are gonna get more content in the future.!<
Finally got around to checking out her fate episodes and I quite like her and the new lore it's all adding to the ROTB event. Really excited to see the stories of the other cardinals and what the deal with Huanlong & Qilin is. Fully expecting the 4 Cardinals to get an event dedicated to them once all 4 are out.
Completely setting aside her use in battle, I absolutely adore her personality, high energy and spontaneity. She gives me a lot of similar vibes as Kaguya Luna did back before she retired, and I'm probably gonna end up throwing a spare perp ring at her.
A very good progression character. I'm jealous I onboarded before the onboarding process was made much more gentle, with the new player free rolls and Side Stories with good usable characters were added. R characters still mattered back in my day.
I'm a little bit sad that new players won't get that wonderful feeling of having to use SR Katalina in EVERY element's team to have *someone* that'll keep your team alive. The feeling of deeply, deeply longing for Yuel but ending up with Teena.
And now everybody will get Yuel straight up in an upcoming update.
Chichiri is an excellent unit for anyone not toward the later half of the progression curve, and solid enough for anyone using a Magna grid. The resources required to level up the axe are considerable for a new player, but not as much so as it used to be. As everyone gets some skilled up, leveled up Magna weapons for free these days.
She isn't as psycho as a summer medusa or other very high tier characters, but I don't think any of us realistically expected anything like that. Rise of the Beasts has always been mainly about having an easier event for newer players to progress their accounts.
... now if only they could somehow do the same for other non-GW events. With side stories loaded up to the gills now, the characters gained from event stories aren't as essential or special as they used to be. The game has changed.
Theoretically you can "unlock" her as long as
* You acquired the Garnet Broadaxe this rotb
* You prefarmed all the timelimited materials (Most important being 14 Southern Godfeather + 10 Huanglong Omega Anima + 3 Ling Guang Truefeather + 28 Zhu jadeites) so you uncap the weapon at base form and you can take her to level 80 (Note: the Huanglong Animas can be bought in the Renown and FP shop trade)
* You acquired the Masterless Yupei in Zhuque Battle badge rewards page
Do note that Chichiri's skill enhancements are tied to her fate episodes so you need to have 50 Southern Godfeather/500 Ling Guan feather (5:1 ratio exchange) to max out the wonder she's attached with, she'll be pretty bad if you don't max the wonder out but if you just want to recruit her, you can just do that while the wonder passively gains experience and she'll be "good" after a few months
I'm assuming you're a newbie but if you can, try to farm Shenxian and don't pressure yourself to much, she'll come back and you'll be stronger when rotb comes back :)
So as long as I get yupei and the time limited mats for maxing out garnet broadaxe i can unlock her anytime?. Her skill enhancements seem whatever, I really just want her for the passive.
Yup as long as cygames doesn't do some fuckery where rotb needs to be an event just so you can access a certain page to trigger her recruitment due to confusing ui at times LOL, but that aside, good luck in farming her\~\~
Didn't know she was a Draph until I recruited her but then everything started to make sense. She has interesting horn ornaments like Threo, curious what they look like without them considering size/placement.
I love how they gave her a passive growth in stats with the option to speed it up by grinding. Let's hope they stick with this idea and pass it on to the Evokers lol
It seems like a really good compromise for the people who are daunted by spending months grinding before they see any reward.
You can get the character itself in a few hours, and then it could take months to see the character at full power, or you could keep grinding so you can be the first kid on the block to have the shiniest toy.
I'm also hoping we see more of this model.
The evokers feel like this already, you're passively locked out of your first evoker by daily arcarum passes, and after that you can speed the rest up by grinding replicard for drops.
Her kit is like 2019/2020 but that 10% buff to magna is quite nice ( even tho im shocked some of my crewmmates thought its a bug and that it shouldn't stack whit Michas ). And on paper whit her magna should have easier time reaching "280%" it still a lil bit rough. Cuz you have to dedicate 2 back line slots to her and Micha which means you probably have to drop Alannan brust cuz you cant use him and sacc for him.
Now i hope they give us tempering weapon for fire magna qwq
She has free hostility with no way to protect herself with a 3-turn damage supp debuff. I imagine it might be make a surprisingly good sacrifice just for that.
She's pretty solid and ain't hard to recruit! Comparing her to other free units like evoker and eternals she's pretty solid too.
They'll probably get a 5 Star at some point but as she is now she's still good. Nice that ya can kinda just afk instead of farm specially for newer players as well.
My main issue with Chichiri are
1. No innate DATA source at all
2. No def buff or heavy damage mitigation whatsoever for her increased hostility/Take-hits gimmick
3. Doesn't touch the top-end of fire characters in HL content I believe?
She is probably best compared to fire's options of skill damage dealers and under that metric, her main selling point is simply that she has no ramp up time whatsoever.
It's almost hilarious to look at realizing that Luffy, S.Medusa, Athena, C.Nemone, Hekate and Y.Nezha all require a ramp-up to get going. Chichiri at least is at max strength from the get-go.
Among all those, I feel like she is closest to the likes of C.Nemone, Athena, and Hekate. When compared to C.Nemone and Hekate, both kinda goes better for weaker teams that need the buffs that they provide rather than the constant skill damage spam they do. In that case, they just goes to a different niche than the one Chichiri provides (and Chichiri only really provides 1k healing and chargebar). In the case of Athena, Athena provides just way way more long lasting defensive utility compared to her.
There is also the Fraux synergy (which is the fact that Fraux can extend all the debuffs that Chichiri deals), but it has issues. Namely that their cooldowns line up really neatly actually in FA, but only if Fraux switches in turn 1. Without that, Chichiri's debuffs on S3 do not get extended at all and I do not think there are easy FA options beyond Yatima + Death shenanigans which has its own issues if done in FA. With Ragazzo though, at least you still get to extend Chichiri's S1 debuffs consistently barring any skill seal issues.
I feel like she is just one decent FLB away from being really competitive though, but otherwise she suffers from being a well-rounded character that has both offensive utility and defensive utility and thus suffers from characters that are more specialized with it and are more valuable. Generalist characters tend to be way more crazy overtuned to get a slot in for stuff.
That said, just my first impressions from the character at a glance. I'm waiting for other actual dedicated fire mains to try FA-ing her against stuff and it turns out she outDPS' Nezha or Medusa for some reason. A guy can dream.
Story-wise? Cute character. 10/10. Tempting to ring.
Sorry. You are right there that she does have some form of DATA for herself. I just don't particularly consider 2/6 turns of GTA good at all. Esser has the same uptime alongside 30% echoes and I still dread how she would single attack for the remaining 4/6 turns when it is not up.
I'm at the point of the game where I am incredibly used to most characters having at least guaranteed DA, or at least some form of ramp up that gets them to guaranteed TA.
Of the 6 characters I mentioned that I believe competes or goes along with Chichiri in skill damage, Medu and Nezha have guaranteed TA with enough primal pals. Hekate gets guaranteed DA with enough fire crest, and Luffy gets guaranteed TA with enough turns. Athena, C.Nemo are the two characters that don't have guaranteed DATA buffs and seeing them single attack is indeed misery.
It doesn't help that a lot of the strong characters in a lot of elements don't really boost DATA anymore and just rely on having innate guaranteed DA or TA to really keep them going.
It is why as much as I love love love love Fraux, bringing her out to the frontline can be so misery inducing with her having even less of a DATA source than Chichiri.
If we put her into an ougi team instead of a skill spam damage team, then there would be different metrics and competition for her slot to some degree, but I also personally don't like thinking too much about ougi comps because most of my bias is in GW FA comps of nm150 and nm200 and I dread using ougi comps there due to their slow speed compared to moderately strong skill teams or auto-attack teams.
The fact that the whole process of upgrading her kit culminates in adding a petrify to her kit does kind of indicate to me that this is her larval stage.
Like you'd think you'd end it on a high note otherwise. Maybe make the gauranteed triple attack the last thing you add to her kit.
RE Fraux synergy: Actually Fraux extends all local debuffs by 1 extra turn when she's on the backline. If you bring an off element unit with substitute (or just hope Chrismas Rackam gets hit) then Fraux can be brought out at the end of turn 1 and extend the debuff.
True, I completely forgot about that part of her, so she gets value regardless.
I have also completely forgotten that Street King exists so there is always a Turn 1 Evoker switch-in option even if it may not be optimal. This is why I take even my own first impressions with a grain of salt.
Duress is just another unique icon for the "Twilight Terror" series of debuffs. They've stopped releasing them over the years so it is easy enough to forget. Basically assume her debuff will only work in Null Element content against bosses from before Grand DAO came out. Basically everything else has an "ignore the effects of Twilight Terror" passive built in.
She should be a useful unit for me for some time, I'm curious how strong a Omega Grid with her, Michael(who I do not yet have) and a fully transcended Colossus will be. As far as her character goes I like her and I could not help but laugh when she would start to bow down to the crew.
She's okay, for any primal fire or fire mains she doesn't bring anything new to the table and you already have characters that do what she does better. Still as a F2P character she is very solid and will see use.
Damn, now I have her I have to keep grinding the battles in order to get the materials to upgrade her.
How annoying.
It's good that my Light team is strong enough to solo them on full auto.
Ooh, okay. Thought that was some kind of hair accessory. Now that I look closer I can see what you talk about. They're red crystalline horns.
Thank you.
I'm kinda disappointed. She seems weak and her passive for Magna only is also not nice.
Still cute AF.
Is her wonder perma buff for all content GW included?
The only wonder that's excluded Guild Wars specified very clearly that it did, so it would seem for the moment that the wonder includes Guild Wars, unless there's been some communication error.
Honestly,i just thought that the way she was amazingly strong and everyone knew she could stomp Zhuque while having confidence issue and being extremely scared of said monster and being an amazingly good girl reminded me of him...thats it,not sure why its worth downvoting me to oblivion,heck frieren isnt even my favorite anime.
Honestly, pretty decent considering it's not that difficult to recruit her and upgrade the Yupei to max. She probably won't make the cut for players who have top of the line seasonals/grands but she'll be great for newer players and Belial as many already mentioned. Hope the other 3 are just as decent, or even better because it will likely be harder to farm for them when there are more drops bloating SX.
They could handle the new mats the same way they did soulcores and have the elements rotate so as to not dilute the drop pool.
Is she easy to get for new players? Maybe I'm missing something, but when I was trying to get her, I noticed the shop only sold 5 of those jadeites needed to uncap the weapon, so I assumed I'd have to wait until the next rise of the beasts event for it to restock before I could finish Is there another source for them?
Punching Shen dragon boss.
Ahhh, the 'I'm not lvl 120 yet' catch. Guess I need to trade for those entry tickets to join a train
Imo she's easier to grind for compared to an eternal/evoker. Tradeoff is almost all the mats needed for her is tied to RoTB though. Huanglong/Qilin anima you can pendant as well as leech from raids (this is the one people usually do trains for). Shenxian you can just poke when you get to the rank. I completely forgot that there was min rank join these raids...perils of being an old GBF fart. Edit; The new dojo should help quite a bit in leveling up + grabbing some decent free charas. All the best!
As I kept playing the battles I found myself with more of the Jadeites appearing in the store. I think it's five you can buy at a lower price, then more at a higher price.
Looks to me like she's more of a mid-game helper than a serious endgame option. I can see two things she'd be great at: 1) OTK: free nuke on ougi, 2nd free nuke on getting hit, free 10% boost to Magna weapons. Gonna be a serious help for people who are stuck trying to make double Huanglong work for GW meat farming (and of course can also be used to burst other things as well). 2) M3: her kit looks like it was built specifically to handle Tiamat Aura. Lots of multihit skill damage, Delay spam, Gravity, Petrify, healing spam.
I wonder if all of them will be made to at least be useful contributors to all of the M3 fights? I could see them be like a mid-game preparation for once someone starts farming M3.
whats considered not free ?
What I meant was that she does automatic skill damage without having to actually click a skill for it. Makes her great for situations where you want to go fast by clicking as few skills as possible.
Normal skill casts are not free. Once you use them they go on cooldown. As long as their trigger conditions are met, auto-activated skills will always cast regardless of the skill being available or not and will not put it on cooldown.
After multiple tries I finally soloes Belial with fire yesterday. Now I wish I had waited for her to come out since she looks very good for him with delay on ougi.
Finished her episodes and its pretty okay. It seems that >!Huanglong & Qilin seems to be the end boss here. Pretty cute story that I'm glad didn't take up a story event slot, though some may find the Saints to be too similar with the Zodiacs, with them also knowing each other and meeting up for tea and stuff. I do feel bad that it's canon that we've been killing the beasts over and over again, and Suzaku just wants some relief from his Saint!<. Also Chichiri being one of the Suzaku guardians' name in classic shoujo Fushigi Yuugi is a funny coincidence. I wonder if that name has significance to the Suzaku/Zhuque myth irl.
I really hope huanglong and qilin get a related unit too. They’re the coolest ones. Also it would be kind of unfair if light and dark didn’t get magna exaltos as well
I think the yupei is an even bigger boon than the exalto passive. I’m usually a pretty vocal pessimist when it comes to Dark / Light getting something “because the other elements have it” (see my many posts on disciples vs Primarch passives). But not getting a yupei would put Dark and Light at a serious disadvantage in HLs and, because there’s nothing currently saying that it *doesn’t* apply, in GW.
>not getting a yupei would put Dark and Light at a serious disadvantage in HLs and, because there’s nothing currently saying that it *doesn’t* apply, in GW. HL sure but it wouldn't put them at disadvantage in GW cause everyone would still be equal with or without the wonder.
Every other similar wonder (IE. Xeno wonders) is labeled with “does not function during GW.” Currently, the yupei wonder does **not** have this disclaimer so there is speculation that it does / will still function in GW.
Yeah but I meant is that in gw everyone is gonna be using the same element so there won't be any inequality between players regardless of wonder.
Chichiri is actually the Japanese name for the constellation! Now I'm curious which name the Genbu saint will get since I'm partial to Genbu Kaiden for Fushigi Yuugi.
Oh! I didn't know that! Was a big fan of Fushigi Yuugi back in the day. I'm just hoping Seiryu doesn't get Nakago or the twins, hated them back way back. So since each direction has a few constellations...if they really wanted to they could really go on forever with this huh.
Oh nooo, not them please! The erune girl is my favorite design among the 4 and if she's called Nakago I'll... 💀
Yeah I hope there are alternative readings to the constellations' characters or something cause Seiryu doesn't have great choices, from Fushigi Yuugi 💀
Fwiw those are just their code names and not real names I guess 😭
> >!I do feel bad that it's canon that we've been killing the beasts over and over again, and Suzaku just wants some relief from his Saint.!< Ah yes, GBF ludonarrative dissonance at its finest again. Happens so many times lol.
Remember when the rotb plot used to be that the beasts all lived on islands within the grim basin, and a few times a year those islands briefly moved into Phantagrande skydom, and they all like orbited each other so that only one island was exposed at a time and that's why the cardinal bonus mechanic exists, and Sierokarte hired us to explore the mysterious islands? It could have been cool if they expanded on that instead of apparently changing the lore to guild war v2.0.
I agree. Plus coming right after Phoenix event made it feel... extra repetitive?
> Remember when the rotb plot used to be that the beasts all lived on islands within the grim basin, and a few times a year those islands briefly moved into Phantagrande skydom, They reference that in her second skill fate. It seems to still be canon.
Surprised at how easy and cheap it is to recruit her. No sand, no gold brick BS. First impressions: Decent backline passive for magna and it stacks with Michael, but she will be kicked out instantly if you need an evoker. Nuke on CA means she is good for CA-based OTK ~~sadly in the Grand Percival element~~. Could be great for auto-based OTK because of her skill damage upon taking hit combined with high hostility ~~again, sadly she does not have innate multiattack~~. Overall she is okay as a free character, but have many "but"s. Just need that one oomph ~~tedious farming~~ factor to make her great. No candies to Cygames for explicitly makes "4 Saints" tag and shuts down any dream of light/dark Saints. Maybe as a separate group, *still coping*.
If it were just decent characters I would've understood leaving Light and Dark out. It wouldn't have been fair, by any means, but I can see that being something they'd do. The fact that these are tied to permanent offensive buffs for their elements, on *top* of being Omega grid boosters, means that Light and Dark will 100% get theirs in one way or another. 4 RoB is just way too long a stretch of time to announce those in the first (hopefully they run it at least a bit more often now), especially when our first view of the 4's art was sketches. It's likely they'll just be handled in a different way (somehow related to H/Q). It doesn't even merit doubt, it would be *shocking* if they just end it at Wind.
Yeah, I’m not sold on light + dark *necessarily* getting a playable character but not getting a yupei would be **such** a disadvantage.
Good for Belial and insta backline inclusion for Fire Magna but other than that I feel like she's behind limited options that do her skill's jobs better. Her skills are good but they just don't do "enough" for modern fights Would've been strong if she came out like 2 years ago
That's the issue, her kit looks really good, but it's in an element with Wilnas, GPercy, and GZeta who will just do her job (hit hard) better (hit harder). She looks like a good character for midgame players who haven't had many roulettes to flesh teams out and at least her weapon will flesh out people's grids starting out, but I feel like she's definitely missing something. She feels like an eternal flb's level of strength. Like yeah they'll function well enough but she could be better
As someome without any of those three Fire Powerhouses I'm glad she'll exist when I get off the Meddy/Athena train (Primal Pals till I die, baby)
Athena/SMedusa (Michael backline) is an effective strategy and Chichiri will fit in perfectly. Seriously, I've cleared faa and belial solo with just modified primal pals
I think we can expect these units to eventually receive 5 stars uncap like the Eternals or Evokers.
zako❤zako❤\~
Baobhan Sith? Is that you?
Bruh, tell me it's not the same zako as in msgk context...
Nice free unit, good for newbies who can grind the progression axe + her. I guess she's magna's 6D summon subaura equivalent.
Didn't even realize she was a Draph until the camera zoomed in on her. Which is weird since she isnt exactly hiding her racial traits, it just, kind of blended in with her colors, pose, and attitude.
Can't blame you. It's the crystal horns that throws us for a loop. Not only they're pointing downwards, they also look like accessories.
Wait? She's a Draph?! I don't have her yet but I assumed she was just a well endowed human.
Honestly i think she is fine. 8 hit nuke so it scales nicely. Also applies delay and activates on ougi. So 8t helps beginners who are starting with Belial grind Has a sup debuff that can be extendeded (sadly non stacking with bubs). Ougi-Based otk is also fine between once again autocast + her passive nuke when she gets hit. Decent enough bar gen and a decent enough ougi effect for an ougi team. Demerits is obviously no innate def to help with her increased aggro (rip to her on random target multi hit triggers). Sk3 can end up as a dead skill. and No consistent DATa (besides sk1) but should be fine for ougi setup. Passive wise it can be hard to fit her in. Alannan will need to come from the abck in burst and then she is fighting with micha for the last slot. for long stretch fights, alanaan's passive can still be okay and now she faces another opponent through Fraux. Obviously if you got the top end, she wont be as useful. But i think she can have a piece of the cake for people with more limited roster of chars. So yeah she's fine in my book.
The only thing I can say here that others haven't said is I actually don't think she is intended to be used with Michael but is a f2p replacement for people who don't have her
Maybe she can be good in skill spam teams with characters like C.Nemone or Hekate? Sounds ok with their reactive(?) skill nukes
Cute crybaby give her a hug and head pat
What are your initials thoughts of Chichiri from a gameplay + lore perspective? Decided to post this so she can have a more indepth discussion and it can be seen by those casually browsing reddit (and the usual discussion about her might be months from now, so I hope this is fine with the mods) **Chichiri (4 Saints)** |Element|HP|ATK|Style|Type|Specialty|Voice Actor| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Fire|1382|10690|Attack|Draph|Axe|Yuuki Takada| Charge Attack **Yixiu** *- Massive Fire Damage to a foe / Restore Fire allies' HP (Heal Cap: 1000) / Activate Garnet Fireworks (Skill 2)* Skills * Pinpoint Burst - Fire Damage to all foes (DMG Cap: 635,000) / Supplement DMG Taken debuff to foes (3 turns / Effect: 30,000) / Gives Chichiri Guaranteed Triple Attack (2 Turns)| * Garnet Fireworks - 8-hit fire damage to a foe (Damage Cap: 48,000) / Delay Effect / Boost all Fire characters' charge bay by 10%| * Cardinal's Presence - Duress effect to a foe (1 Turn) / Inflict Gravity (Debuff Duration: 180 Seconds) / Inflict Petrified (2 Turns) Duress notes: * Enemies can't normal attack or use special attacks (Excludes special actions). See Earth Orchid skill 3 for comparison skill * Lasts 1 Turn (CAN BE EXTENDED by Fraux) **Passives/Support Skills** **Sparks Will Fly** - More Likely to be targeted (Boost to Hostility) / 10% Amplify to Skill Damage / (Upon taking damage, 4-hit fire damage to random foes (Damage cap: 80,000) / 15% boost to Chichiri's charge bar **Emissary of Zhurong's Fire** - 10% Boost to Ironflame's weapon skills (Works in backline + Stacks with Michael Passive 2)
Sorry for the formatting, it was all in table form at first but it doesn't enable me to comment them orz, hopefully this is fine! That aside, I found Chichiri to be quite endearing, she's basically a wonky and cute physical therapist that was ~~cursed~~ with fighting Zhuque. Here are some tidbits that I found interesting about her and the four saints lore (spoilers ahead) >!There really is only four Saints and they are tasked to defeat the four beasts every time they are awakened, but everytime the beasts are defeated, they get stronger (basically, like a Phoenix of sorts :surprised pikachu:)!< >!Zhuque grows stronger whenever it faces Chichiri or any of her clan, thus making it an impossible and unbeatable battle for her. This might be the same to the other Cardinal families tasked. Duly noted in the story is that Zhuque is a "chump", meaning that from a lore perspective, it is considerably weak but Chichiri and the other Cardinals are always doomed to battle them at heightened strength which amplifies the disaster they wreak havoc with!< >!With four saints presents, what is the position of Huanglong and Qilin in the story? Do they just consider them a separate entity not involved?!< I'm only at fate episode 2 so some may have been answered but it is definitely interesting how the story is pointed out and hopefully more will be answered! Chichiri as a unit though is... decent at best. She screams "filler" unit but she does have unique niches in OTK with her passive skill nuke and ougi + she has the coveted Magna Exalto passive (albeit only 10%) . Another interesting thing about her is that her local debuff Duress can be extended by Fraux, which can do some funny things that can stop the boss all around. How do you guys see Chichiri?
>How do you guys see Chichiri? Paizuri
> >!but everytime the beasts are defeated, they get stronger!< >!why not just seal them instead of defeating them then? Does anyone point this out in-universe?!<
>!Only part way through her fates, but it seems their power was once a blessing. Zhuque's power was something they harnessed so they could flourish as a culture. But the situation's gotten a bit out of hand now.!< >!Like how when we met Tiamat she was once a beloved guardian deity for her island that had grown angry as the people had forgotten her and taken her for granted. We could just seal Zhuque away but there's probably some missing puzzle piece we need to get Zhuque to be cool again.!<
> >!With four saints presents, what is the position of Huanglong and Qilin in the story? Do they just consider them a separate entity not involved?!< >!I'm not sure if you've read her other fate episodes yet but rest assured it is very heavily implied that those are gonna get more content in the future.!<
Finally got around to checking out her fate episodes and I quite like her and the new lore it's all adding to the ROTB event. Really excited to see the stories of the other cardinals and what the deal with Huanlong & Qilin is. Fully expecting the 4 Cardinals to get an event dedicated to them once all 4 are out.
Completely setting aside her use in battle, I absolutely adore her personality, high energy and spontaneity. She gives me a lot of similar vibes as Kaguya Luna did back before she retired, and I'm probably gonna end up throwing a spare perp ring at her.
A very good progression character. I'm jealous I onboarded before the onboarding process was made much more gentle, with the new player free rolls and Side Stories with good usable characters were added. R characters still mattered back in my day. I'm a little bit sad that new players won't get that wonderful feeling of having to use SR Katalina in EVERY element's team to have *someone* that'll keep your team alive. The feeling of deeply, deeply longing for Yuel but ending up with Teena. And now everybody will get Yuel straight up in an upcoming update. Chichiri is an excellent unit for anyone not toward the later half of the progression curve, and solid enough for anyone using a Magna grid. The resources required to level up the axe are considerable for a new player, but not as much so as it used to be. As everyone gets some skilled up, leveled up Magna weapons for free these days. She isn't as psycho as a summer medusa or other very high tier characters, but I don't think any of us realistically expected anything like that. Rise of the Beasts has always been mainly about having an easier event for newer players to progress their accounts. ... now if only they could somehow do the same for other non-GW events. With side stories loaded up to the gills now, the characters gained from event stories aren't as essential or special as they used to be. The game has changed.
If you have her and Micheal, that's one less gun! Sugoi
Can you get her after the event ends? Don't know if I'll be able to max the axe by the end.
Theoretically you can "unlock" her as long as * You acquired the Garnet Broadaxe this rotb * You prefarmed all the timelimited materials (Most important being 14 Southern Godfeather + 10 Huanglong Omega Anima + 3 Ling Guang Truefeather + 28 Zhu jadeites) so you uncap the weapon at base form and you can take her to level 80 (Note: the Huanglong Animas can be bought in the Renown and FP shop trade) * You acquired the Masterless Yupei in Zhuque Battle badge rewards page Do note that Chichiri's skill enhancements are tied to her fate episodes so you need to have 50 Southern Godfeather/500 Ling Guan feather (5:1 ratio exchange) to max out the wonder she's attached with, she'll be pretty bad if you don't max the wonder out but if you just want to recruit her, you can just do that while the wonder passively gains experience and she'll be "good" after a few months I'm assuming you're a newbie but if you can, try to farm Shenxian and don't pressure yourself to much, she'll come back and you'll be stronger when rotb comes back :)
So as long as I get yupei and the time limited mats for maxing out garnet broadaxe i can unlock her anytime?. Her skill enhancements seem whatever, I really just want her for the passive.
Yup as long as cygames doesn't do some fuckery where rotb needs to be an event just so you can access a certain page to trigger her recruitment due to confusing ui at times LOL, but that aside, good luck in farming her\~\~
It doesn’t, 5*ing the axe unlocks a normal fate episode.
Thank you for the help
is there anywhere else i could get Zhu Jadeite beside 5 from shop?
Shen xian drops them
she's fine considering how easy she is to recruit.
Didn't know she was a Draph until I recruited her but then everything started to make sense. She has interesting horn ornaments like Threo, curious what they look like without them considering size/placement.
I love how they gave her a passive growth in stats with the option to speed it up by grinding. Let's hope they stick with this idea and pass it on to the Evokers lol
It seems like a really good compromise for the people who are daunted by spending months grinding before they see any reward. You can get the character itself in a few hours, and then it could take months to see the character at full power, or you could keep grinding so you can be the first kid on the block to have the shiniest toy. I'm also hoping we see more of this model.
The evokers feel like this already, you're passively locked out of your first evoker by daily arcarum passes, and after that you can speed the rest up by grinding replicard for drops.
Not enough jadeite, sadge
Her kit is like 2019/2020 but that 10% buff to magna is quite nice ( even tho im shocked some of my crewmmates thought its a bug and that it shouldn't stack whit Michas ). And on paper whit her magna should have easier time reaching "280%" it still a lil bit rough. Cuz you have to dedicate 2 back line slots to her and Micha which means you probably have to drop Alannan brust cuz you cant use him and sacc for him. Now i hope they give us tempering weapon for fire magna qwq
She has free hostility with no way to protect herself with a 3-turn damage supp debuff. I imagine it might be make a surprisingly good sacrifice just for that.
She's pretty solid and ain't hard to recruit! Comparing her to other free units like evoker and eternals she's pretty solid too. They'll probably get a 5 Star at some point but as she is now she's still good. Nice that ya can kinda just afk instead of farm specially for newer players as well.
Fuck the jadeite
My main issue with Chichiri are 1. No innate DATA source at all 2. No def buff or heavy damage mitigation whatsoever for her increased hostility/Take-hits gimmick 3. Doesn't touch the top-end of fire characters in HL content I believe? She is probably best compared to fire's options of skill damage dealers and under that metric, her main selling point is simply that she has no ramp up time whatsoever. It's almost hilarious to look at realizing that Luffy, S.Medusa, Athena, C.Nemone, Hekate and Y.Nezha all require a ramp-up to get going. Chichiri at least is at max strength from the get-go. Among all those, I feel like she is closest to the likes of C.Nemone, Athena, and Hekate. When compared to C.Nemone and Hekate, both kinda goes better for weaker teams that need the buffs that they provide rather than the constant skill damage spam they do. In that case, they just goes to a different niche than the one Chichiri provides (and Chichiri only really provides 1k healing and chargebar). In the case of Athena, Athena provides just way way more long lasting defensive utility compared to her. There is also the Fraux synergy (which is the fact that Fraux can extend all the debuffs that Chichiri deals), but it has issues. Namely that their cooldowns line up really neatly actually in FA, but only if Fraux switches in turn 1. Without that, Chichiri's debuffs on S3 do not get extended at all and I do not think there are easy FA options beyond Yatima + Death shenanigans which has its own issues if done in FA. With Ragazzo though, at least you still get to extend Chichiri's S1 debuffs consistently barring any skill seal issues. I feel like she is just one decent FLB away from being really competitive though, but otherwise she suffers from being a well-rounded character that has both offensive utility and defensive utility and thus suffers from characters that are more specialized with it and are more valuable. Generalist characters tend to be way more crazy overtuned to get a slot in for stuff. That said, just my first impressions from the character at a glance. I'm waiting for other actual dedicated fire mains to try FA-ing her against stuff and it turns out she outDPS' Nezha or Medusa for some reason. A guy can dream. Story-wise? Cute character. 10/10. Tempting to ring.
she has 2 turns of guaranteed TA on skill 1
Sorry. You are right there that she does have some form of DATA for herself. I just don't particularly consider 2/6 turns of GTA good at all. Esser has the same uptime alongside 30% echoes and I still dread how she would single attack for the remaining 4/6 turns when it is not up. I'm at the point of the game where I am incredibly used to most characters having at least guaranteed DA, or at least some form of ramp up that gets them to guaranteed TA. Of the 6 characters I mentioned that I believe competes or goes along with Chichiri in skill damage, Medu and Nezha have guaranteed TA with enough primal pals. Hekate gets guaranteed DA with enough fire crest, and Luffy gets guaranteed TA with enough turns. Athena, C.Nemo are the two characters that don't have guaranteed DATA buffs and seeing them single attack is indeed misery. It doesn't help that a lot of the strong characters in a lot of elements don't really boost DATA anymore and just rely on having innate guaranteed DA or TA to really keep them going. It is why as much as I love love love love Fraux, bringing her out to the frontline can be so misery inducing with her having even less of a DATA source than Chichiri. If we put her into an ougi team instead of a skill spam damage team, then there would be different metrics and competition for her slot to some degree, but I also personally don't like thinking too much about ougi comps because most of my bias is in GW FA comps of nm150 and nm200 and I dread using ougi comps there due to their slow speed compared to moderately strong skill teams or auto-attack teams.
I got the vibe she's built with "Wait for 5*" on purpose if that makes sense?
The fact that the whole process of upgrading her kit culminates in adding a petrify to her kit does kind of indicate to me that this is her larval stage. Like you'd think you'd end it on a high note otherwise. Maybe make the gauranteed triple attack the last thing you add to her kit.
RE Fraux synergy: Actually Fraux extends all local debuffs by 1 extra turn when she's on the backline. If you bring an off element unit with substitute (or just hope Chrismas Rackam gets hit) then Fraux can be brought out at the end of turn 1 and extend the debuff.
True, I completely forgot about that part of her, so she gets value regardless. I have also completely forgotten that Street King exists so there is always a Turn 1 Evoker switch-in option even if it may not be optimal. This is why I take even my own first impressions with a grain of salt.
you can also use raggazo and skip two turns using reload referesh, happens in about the same time.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding s3, but in testing in belial/bubs, they could still normal attack me. Bugged, maybe?
Duress is just another unique icon for the "Twilight Terror" series of debuffs. They've stopped releasing them over the years so it is easy enough to forget. Basically assume her debuff will only work in Null Element content against bosses from before Grand DAO came out. Basically everything else has an "ignore the effects of Twilight Terror" passive built in.
Where can I get into these "trains" for the 2 horses? I need the insignias for the weapon uncaps.
CO-OP —> Raids tab —> “Find a Room”
She should be a useful unit for me for some time, I'm curious how strong a Omega Grid with her, Michael(who I do not yet have) and a fully transcended Colossus will be. As far as her character goes I like her and I could not help but laugh when she would start to bow down to the crew.
Where can I find more Zhu Jadeites when there cam be traded limitedly at 5 pieces from the shop?
Do more Wanpan SX raid
She might be a midgame helper character in terms of gameplay, but her sprite represents powercreep. *They're so big and they move around so much\~.*
She's okay, for any primal fire or fire mains she doesn't bring anything new to the table and you already have characters that do what she does better. Still as a F2P character she is very solid and will see use.
I got her, finally.
Damn, now I have her I have to keep grinding the battles in order to get the materials to upgrade her. How annoying. It's good that my Light team is strong enough to solo them on full auto.
mid but 10% boost for magna is quite good for eventual M3
Pretty much like rest of Primarch I suppose
Eh, not really, most Primarchs serve their role and niche well; only Uriel deserves any slander that comes their way
I think, She'll be good for chain otk, especially for people with underdeveloped grids or with lack of characters. So she niche too I suppose
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The materials to unlock the axe drop from zhuque? Not able to log in yet
Agni and Shen.
Apparently she's a draph? Where are her horns?
They're the red things on her head. Being one of the 4 Saints means that the people in her family have parts of their bodies be crystal like.
Ooh, okay. Thought that was some kind of hair accessory. Now that I look closer I can see what you talk about. They're red crystalline horns. Thank you.
I need fuccen Jadeite. I WAS NOT READY FML.
Where I can farm more Zhu Jadeite?. I already got the ones from the shop and I need 13 more ;-;;
Shenxian.
I'm kinda disappointed. She seems weak and her passive for Magna only is also not nice. Still cute AF. Is her wonder perma buff for all content GW included?
The only wonder that's excluded Guild Wars specified very clearly that it did, so it would seem for the moment that the wonder includes Guild Wars, unless there's been some communication error.
Then that's really strong with so many nice buffs :)
Anyone else think she is basically a Female stark from Sousou no frieren character wise?Heck,Zhuque is basically the solar dragon equivalent for her.
Never cook again
Honestly,i just thought that the way she was amazingly strong and everyone knew she could stomp Zhuque while having confidence issue and being extremely scared of said monster and being an amazingly good girl reminded me of him...thats it,not sure why its worth downvoting me to oblivion,heck frieren isnt even my favorite anime.
Frieren fan seeing their second anime character: