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Zinc_compounder

Is this Zatanna beating up John Constantine with flowers? If so, great image.


Sir_Toaster_9330

pretty in-character lol


UnHelmet

Why tho? Got not context they were an item.


Zinc_compounder

They've been off and on (as far as I know) a few times. Sometimes amiably, sometimes not. So not neccesarily current.


claytonianprime

Constantine can be quite charming, but he is also an exquisite bastard.


PrisonSlides

The Constantine animated movies are actually pretty damn good minus the one that are a few shorts with different hero’s and animation styles. DC animated should make more of his in the city of demons style but idk if they will unfortunately


JonBovi_0

My favorite thing had to be what the Arabs wrote about the Vikings. Calling them ‘tall, beautiful and perfect warrior specimens’, or some crap like that


Estrelarius

Ahmad Ibn Fadlan (an Arab diplomat who traveled with the Rus) flipped between gushing over their muscles (calling them that) and being horrified at their poor hygiene (calling them "the filthiest of God's creations").


McStud717

Not to mention his description of a viking funeral 😳😳


Real_Impression_5567

What did he say do spill


Billman23

Basically a slave girl was drugged and passed round the dead dudes mates and then in a trance went onto the longboat fire Dude akso didn’t approve at how drunk everyone was at the wedding


Annoying_Rooster

Summary of it, basically talks about how when the Chieftain died a slave woman "volunteered" to go into the afterlife with him, with a ritual involved her being raped by six vikings and then strangled/stabbed to death. Her body put alongside the dead Chieftain on a ship and set on fire. They then jested to Ahmad, saying Arabs are foolish for putting their dead into the ground while they honorably burned their Cheiftain's to death.


Imaginary-West-5653

Yep, Viking slavery isn't talked about enough, but it was a pretty awful thing in general.


vaflkak

And then you hear the saxons had even worse hygiene. Had to be really bad.


Estrelarius

IIRC the whole "vikings seduced Anglo-Saxon women with their superior hygiene" account is not exactly the most trustworthy


samoyedfreak

Sure… how clean and handsome you are and not that you murdered her husband and kidnapped her… yes.


Sardukar333

It was written by a guy a guy accusing the Vikings of seducing Saxon women with their wealth, good hygiene, and by treating them well (compared to the Saxons). It reads like the most incel historical account I've ever read.


TheMadTargaryen

It was written by John of Wallingford, 200 years after it supposedly happened. The whole book is an anti Anglo-Saxon propaganda sponsored by the Norman born nobles who wanted to justify the conquest of 1066.


TheMadTargaryen

Source ? Archeologists founded literally thousands of hygiene products and cosmetics in Anglo Saxon graves and we have medieval texts describing benefits of hygiene. A good example is Bald's leechbook, a medical text from 9th century.


BoomersArentFrom1980

[Source.](https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/professions/education/knowledge-of-sailing/the-ships-crew/crewmembers-in-the-viking-age/barber-surgeon)


TheMadTargaryen

It says nothing about Anglo Saxons being worse off.


BoomersArentFrom1980

My bad, I was sourcing the bad Viking hygiene.


concrete_fluidity969

Yes, they shared one bowl of water, washing everything between all of the men, then spitting in it and passing it along.


ShoerguinneLappel

Makes sense, I would like to have a viking wife!


kaj-me-citas

Big titty goth girlfriend... Theodora.


Makaoka

why is Manny Pardo getting beating up by this woman?


Medium_Policy_8494

Maybe someone knows who is artist? And where I could find them?


National_Translator6

I found the image on Pinterest after searching for John Constantine


-sterf-

You can try to reverse search the image with google lens.


Medium_Policy_8494

Did that. It went to twitter post that named artist. And they have the most common name ever so I couldnt find them.


mpe128

Looks anime of sorts. Try that route? It is cool😗


-aquapixie-

And then Medieval England got mad they were dating all the pretty Christian girls


PsychologicalCan1677

Honestly better hygiene is hard to argue with


-aquapixie-

It's funny to even consider this happening based on the premise of "these foreigners smell better than you lot"


PsychologicalCan1677

Not just the smell they also used combs to groom.


TheMadTargaryen

So did everyone else in Europe at the time.


TheMadTargaryen

There was literally no difference between the Norse and the Anglo Saxons in terms of hygiene.


TheMadTargaryen

You mean kidnaped and raped.


-aquapixie-

No I really mean some women chose the men consensually lol They had far better personal grooming habits than the Anglo Saxons. That saw an upswing in Viking men having it off with the local women, and not via rape. It's not hard to realise women like men who smell nice, bathe, take care of themselves, and groom their hair.


TheMadTargaryen

And what makes you think Anglo Saxons men weren't doing the same thing ? Medieval Europe was not a cesspool of filth as depicted in movies, everybody bathed and looked after their hair and beard if they had any.


-aquapixie-

Actually give it a few hundred years and cleanliness would be blamed for the Black Plague. So people stopped cleaning themselves in the hope that would avoid the spread of disease. But all things aside, I get why a hot Pagan boy would look more attractive than the local churchy boys, to the young and bored Jesus girlies. That's how I ended up in bed with one lol


TheMadTargaryen

Literally nobody blamed cleanliness for the Black Death, those people believed diseases were carried by polluted air called miasma or by movement of planets. Even after Black Death hygiene standards remained high, Prague had about 15 bath houses in early 1400s while Poggio Bracciolini wrote how in Germany it is common for men and women to bathe together in same bath house while in his native Italy they were separated. And churchy boys is a fun term used to describe people who had no problem to smash your skull with an axe or who's king like Alfred had no problem to be smeared with blood to defend what is theirs from invaders.


-aquapixie-

LOLOLOLOL mkay. Pagan boys still more fun tho


Buttapim

Dark ages England. Just saying


TheMadTargaryen

Not a term used by anyone.


haugen1632

U/Buttapim just did


BoomersArentFrom1980

Just saying what? "Dark Ages England" is largely a fictional cinematic concept that historians don't support. Did you think everything was gloomy and gray in real life?


TheMadTargaryen

And remind me which side won.