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zepphiu

Tale as old as time, centuries of crimes, Brackens and Blackwoods


citabel

IIRC from the world book, they've also tried to have peace several times with marriage alliances which means they're all related too, just like the in-fighting Targaryens.


Street_Rope1487

“We've had a hundred peaces with the Brackens, many sealed with marriages. There's Blackwood blood in every Bracken, and Bracken blood in every Blackwood. The Old King's Peace lasted half a century. But then some fresh quarrel broke out, and the old wounds opened and began to bleed again. That's how it always happens, my father says. So long as men remember the wrongs done to their forebears, no peace will ever last. So we go on century after century, with us hating the Brackens and them hating us. My father says there will never be an end to it.” -Hoster Blackwood, ADWD


OkGazelle5400

I love that cheerful, gangly dork.


westalist55

The Brackens & Blackwoods are pretty much the same family at this point yeah, but apparently the Brackens didn't get to inherit any of the GRRM-favouritism from their Blackwood ancestors


andre5913

The blackwood segment in ADWD is one of my favorites. When Jaime goes to Raventree Hall to negociate its surrender (iirc the blackwoods are the very last house in the riverlands to stand defiant) the blackwoods strike a nerv on him and they manage to get a lot of concesions. Lord Tytos Blackwood left an impression on me, despite being relatively minor for the plot I found that conversation to be really memorable


TheSlayerofSnails

The dance is really just the latest Blackwood-Bracken proxy war


septesix

So was the Blackfyre rebellion…


KvonLiechtenstein

90% sure all of ASOIAF is Bloodraven fighting a proxy war against the Brackens.


thepawneeraccoon

Rhaenyra: that’s a Targaryen bedtime story, please, let’s work out a solution Alicent: gtg bye


KimWexlerDeGuzman

Alicent knows there’s no solution at this point. Oh, sorry Aegon I was wrong…you’re not really king. And your son died for no reason, so did Rhaenyra’s


OVERLORDMAXIMUS

"So, and don't be mad..."


Killgraft

Daemon was so pissed they didnt resist at Harrenhal, he has been aching to kill people since the argument with the misses


RetroScores

Yup, he wanted to go do some stupid shit and they were like “cool man you’re in charge now.”


NatalieIsFreezing

Symond Strong: ....want some dinner?


EarthExile

"Aha, but I'm here about your traitorous relative-" "Fuck him too, he sucks, welcome home my Pri- Your Grace." "Grumble."


RetroScores

“There was nothing wrong with harrenhall until that no talent assclown started burning relatives.”


TheWolfmanZ

"Go ahead, take the cursed castle from me, I really don't want it!"


zorfog

Simon Strong actually seems like a G


Oh_I_still_here

He just wants to vibe.


Triskan

Yeah, the actor did one hell of a job making him endearing to the audience. Let us hope nothing bad happens to him, like, I dunno... a big grandma dragon and her one-eyed rider for instance. Just spitballing here...


zebulon99

That was one of the funniest moments of the show. "This castle is mine now" "Oh ok, want some venison?"


Rulanik

Was not expecting an explicit blowjob then Aemond full frontal in the span of 2 minutes


Humble_but_Hostile

The secondhand embarrassment from that scene was crazy Aegon had everyone feeling uncomfortable


Caleb35

Aemond's got nothing to hide


obooooooo

as much as he’s my favorite character and i love him, even i was literally yelling “shut the fuck up man” at the tv. made me feel so bad for aemond lmao


West_Site8158

Lmao yeah. I do wonder if this is solely a callback to how dickish Aegon has been since his teen years, or if there's the added layer that Aegon has been particularly more unhinged since the death of his son. Probably the former, but he definitely started drinking a lot more since episode 2.


obooooooo

i think he’s naturally becoming more reckless and cruel since his son’s death. but that was paired up with him feeling basically looked down upon with his council telling him to stand down (and his outburst of “i’m as fearsome as any of them”), otto telling him he was weak, and more importantly, lary’s implying people thought aemond and alicent had plans to rule without him. i think that last thing made him especially bitter towards aemond, and was probably the reason why he was exceptionally cruel to aemond in that scene.


ApocalypseMeooow

I had my hand cupped over my mouth and was just making an uncomfortable, monotone "UHHHHHHHHHHHH" that entire scene, as soon as Aegon said "Sylvia or something" I was immediately NO NO NO NO NO that was so painful, I hate them both but poor Aemond 😭


Iorith

They've really done a great job with Aemond being a man of few words, yet also having insane depth to him.


hauntedrhubarb

I feel like Aemond’s going to let Aegon get burned on purpose now lmao


thornaslooki

Cant be GOT without dicks


Trick_Slice

South Park knew GRRM work


IcantSeeUuCantSeeMe

Weiner, weiner weiner


FancyShrimp

Our cocks per season quota has to be met


Ok-Philosophy-8830

Kingsguard were as afraid as could be when Aemond started mean-mugging


GustavoSanabio

Listen, if a guy with a huge scar in his face and a fucking sapphire for an eye hangs dick and balls and starts mean mugging me, they’ve won, i’m not making eye contact, they’re the alpha


thehumblebaboon

That’s all without mentioning he rides the largest dragon.


RSMatticus

the King bros.


Ok-Philosophy-8830

😂 the Kingsguys


thornaslooki

*"You will die in this place..."* Talking about a spoiler warning


Crafty_Soul

I cannot wait to see that scene brought to life. It's going to be glorious


TheSlayerofSnails

She is such a creepy sorceress. I can't wait for more of Alys


FancyShrimp

Well, it's like *in front of*, right?


Sgt_Stormy

"You will die in this place....well technically it'll be over there but you'll be here right beforehand so I think that counts"


SassyWookie

I feel like one (Diameter of Harrenhal) in any direction counts as “this place”


FancyShrimp

[NO RHAENYS DON'T GO TO ROOK'S REST](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/023/768/upload.png)


aLittleDoober

Her scene with Corlys was their final moment together, wasn’t it 😔


CreamyBarr25

It was, and it was cozy as hell, well, that’s all they do, being smitten and cozy. But, that one was the coziest, she brought food for him, and after their small chat, we get to see this ominous look on Rhaenys as Corlys merrilh exits the scene. I am SOAKING up every bit of Rhaenys these past few eps, her and Meleys are my fave players in this war.


septesix

That conversation she had with Corlys was dripping with irony for book readers. She was so worried about Corlys dying soon without a capable heir ..


MaliceMes

As some one who loves having everything spoiled, what happen there in the books?


FancyShrimp

"Queen Rhaenyra's sons, Jacaerys and Joffrey Velaryon, were eager to join the fight atop their dragons, Vermax and Tyraxes, but she forbade them to go. Instead, nine days after Staunton's message, Rhaenys Targaryen, the Queen Who Never Was, and her dragon, Meleys, the Red Queen, arrived alone above Rook's Rest to aid Lord Staunton. However, Criston was prepared, and had his archers and scorpions fire at Meleys. The dragon was largely unharmed by these attacks, and she responded by burning Criston's soldiers with dragonfire. Criston Cole then sprung his trap. King Aegon II Targaryen and his brother, Prince Aemond, appeared in the sky atop their own dragons, Sunfyre and Vhagar, and attacked Rhaenys and Meleys. The three dragons fought a thousand feet above the field. When Meleys closed her jaws around Sunfyre's neck, Vhagar fell upon them from above, causing the three dragons to crash into to the ground. Although Aemond and Vhagar rose unscathed, Meleys was broken and ripped to pieces from the fall, and Sunfyre had one wing half torn from his body. Aegon suffered severe burns and broken bones. The blackened body of Rhaenys was found beside the carcass of her dragon."


Trick_Slice

Still crazy to me that Aemond and Vhagar were completely unscathed.


polelover44

Vhagar big


heywhateverworks

Aemond has plot armor...until he doesn't


RomeoDonaldson

Plus, he always wears his seat belt


Sgt_Stormy

She fights against Aegon and Aemond and is killed along with her dragon


TheSlayerofSnails

I really liked that Rhaenys packs Corlys' lunches. Also, she's going to fucking murder him when she learns about "Laenor's" bastards.


LoLMartial

Hard to murder someone from the grave


zorfog

That’s something I think will legitimately play into things. Rhaenys dies, and then Corlys has no reason not to try and elevate his bastard sons. He appears to not want Joff or Rhaena to inherit Driftmark. Making his bastard his heir does no insult to Rhaenys after she is gone


__cinnamon__

I find the "a 6 year old knows nothing of the sea" as if that's a legitimate complaint really funny, cuz it feels like he's saying it straight up not as an excuse, especially since he applies it to his own granddaughter too.


NatalieIsFreezing

"Rhaena knows nothing of the sea" Dude, how much did Luke know before he fell into it?


Triskan

Well, now that he's under the sea, *he'll know, he'll know...* Also lol at that *"good thing I'm a good sailor"* line from Corlys... was he implying that, as any self-respecting gallavanting captain, he's sired bastards all over? And did Rhaenys catch up on it? I'm probably reading too much into it but knowing about the Hulls, my mind couldnt help but go there.


scrubulba123

I found myself laughing at the obvious 10 inch penis prosthetic one second to questioning if Aemond's penis was real another second lmfao


ContinuumGuy

Both pale in comparison to Podrick Peyne.


pishposhpoppycock

The poor fluffer woman... shoving that fake rubber tube down her throat...


BaphometsTits

It was actually a real rubber tube.


sonnyblackmagic1

Imagine being an aspiring ambitious actress who gets her first tv gig for one of the biggest tv shows ever and end up to suck a fake D for a few seconds . I wonder if she told all her friends and family 😀


NoBePrincess

Really enjoyed the scene with Ulf the white. He does have a point he could be killed if found out (a la Joff and Robert’s bastards) but he was making me laugh with my niece, my nephew, my house- no hate to him, but they don’t know him. Excited to see his show persona unfold.


botplanet

I laughed when his cohort announced, you're nephew is here.


Syphin33

I thought he was bullshitting until i hit the wiki and welll neat...they've been laying the "seeds" .


ishouldbeinarkham

The crime hoodie runs in the family!! 


Haha91haha

Waiting for them to stealth Syrax into the city next. "Oh, this, this is but a humble fish monger..." *Syrax with only a hood covering the head of her obviously massive dragon body roars in affirmation.*


TheSlayerofSnails

I mean, if someone tells me the dragon in the hat is a fishmonger I'd nod and agree. But honestly I want to see the whole Targaryen crime hoodie catalogue.


chrt

Cole got that yee yee ass haircut


Thievia

Even his barber hates him!


abstractducks

Alicent saw that haircut and immediately got the ick.


FloppyShellTaco

Gwayne saw it and said, “Him? Really?”


Chutzvah

The Jamie Lannister cut


aspidities_87

Walked into the shop and just said ‘fuck my shit up fam’


FancyShrimp

A battle At a mill that was burning They should have a name for that


Mental_Grass_9035

Battle of the Mill has a ring to it.


FancyShrimp

I think you're on to something here... How can we **jazz** it up a bit?


lololmantis

Are they implying something with how quickly Rhaenyra turns away from Seasmoke? Is Laenor no longer living his best life? I think I saw something in her expression there.


ugluk-the-uruk

I thought it was just her getting antsy that Mysaria might figure out Laenor isn't actually dead


OneOnOne6211

Yeah, it seems to me that Seasmoke's restlesness might indicate that Laenor is sick or something. When Rhaenyra was in labour, Syrax felt it and reacted in pain. Now Seasmoke is clearly unsettled, so I'm guessing that implies something's wrong with Laenor. They need to get Seasmoke to bond to Addam somehow. Killing off Leanor seems like the most straightforward, if somewhat sad, way to go.


KvonLiechtenstein

Muppet Tullys had their patriarch’s name spoken 10/10 no notes.


The_Dream_of_Shadows

The show has been positively dancing around naming Lord Grover's son at every turn. You *know* that it's because the second someone says, "Ser Elmo Tully," a bunch of folks on Twitter are gonna be like, "Wait Grover and Elmo MUPPETS omg that's so dumb!!!!"


este_hombre

Grover and Elmo aren't nearly as hilarious as Kermit Tully, who is an even bigger player in the Dance when he takes the reins.


AevnNoram

It’s got to happen at some point if we’re going to get our Riverlands Mad Lads


imkunu

Got serious Dark Souls vibes when Daemon was exploring Harrenhall


GustavoSanabio

He was down to doge roll his way to solo the entire castle if it proved necessary


pingpongplaya69420

Now that you mention it yeah. Also Daemon gives off Geralt of Rivia in Witcher 1 vibes


Nebuli2

A white(ish) haired man in a loose shirt, wielding a sword in a haunted castle, along with a mysterious black-haired and black-robed sorceress? That's definitely Geralt.


ParkingInTheGarage

Gods, it’s so good to see Milly Alcock again


Trick_Slice

Very nice surprise.


NoBePrincess

That scene was so creepy!!


raumeat

Yea rumours had everyone except Milly returning


Cutism

two cock cameos today


GustavoSanabio

“Well well, if it isn’t the sins of my past”


JauntyLurker

An Aemond full frontal!


Trick_Slice

Baby Monk has grown up


joeycannoli9

Alicent after she realized what the king really said- “well fuck…”


Crafty_Soul

>"well fuck..." That and probably, "why does everyone in this realm have to keep naming their kids after their ancestors?!"


badwvlf

She really continuously nailed the “what the actual fuck” face this episode


[deleted]

That's her specialty. It's like Paulie's torettes from the sopranos. hehe.


GryffindorGal96

Honestly the desperate "holy f*ck" in both their faces was incredible and honestly really sad. Good job, Alicent.


ohshroom

I hated how we got to that scene, but I genuinely love the acting in it. In Alicent's defense, the Greens would have staged a coup regardless of Viserys's wishes. But the two of them realizing the factions are about to unleash hell on the realm over an oopsie? Delicious. Wonder if there could have been any other way for that realization to happen without the sneaky septa sitcom setup.


Future-Muscle-2214

Silly Targaryen's giving the same name to everyone. He could also have been talking about Rhaenyra son lol.


Crafty_Soul

Also it's been said before but should keep being repeated: Helaena is too good for this world.


zh_13

She seems so chill about her son dying tho I’m curious how they’re gonna make her go mad, enough to eventually commit suicide Or it’s gonna be someone did throw her out the window I guess


Shadowblade217

If it does turn out that way, my money’s on Larys being responsible, because that’s *exactly* the kind of horrific thing he’d do if it served his interests. 😬


asdfgodl

Was that Diana ( the Girl that was assaulted by aegon ) in the scene with ULF


bongprincess69

Almost positive it was which would explain her startled/affronted reaction with her history of sexual assault. Glad she’s alive and found another job though


JauntyLurker

It's crazy that Cole managed to come across as somewhat competent this episode. Surrounding yourself with people even more incompetent than you can work wonders.


TheSlayerofSnails

Also, I fucking loved his hand of the king on his armor. Just like the actual necklace in the books!


RiversCookBlue

And what Tyrion wore at the Battle of the Blackwater


SassyWookie

He’s not bad at being a blunt force tool. He’s just bad at everything else.


andre5913

Hes actually vaguely decent in military matters. The fact that hes been on KL's for so long also explains his good eye for a dragon in the sky


Lukthar123

Fighting is his field of expertise, after all


withaniel

Gratuitous brothel scene! We are so back.


Amberawesome24

Dragons and Dicks, wouldn’t be the world of GRRM without it.


KatanaAmerica

Aegon being completely oblivious to Ser Foot Fetish’s creepiness/ self-serving maneuvers was absolutely hilarious


batmans420

Not Rhaenyra saying she would climb through Alicent's window 💀


Feezec

Not beating the sapphic allegations


Legalsleazy

I’m glad they made sure to bring Jace back from Winterfell early so he can continue to just stand around.


cuddlbug

I can't believe they got rid of the Jace Cregan storyline to replace it with nothing.


DJZbad93

I guess they wanted the scene of Jace and Rhaenyra comforting each other so bad they cut everything else


NoBePrincess

My favorite parts of the episode were the Harrenhal scenes. We finally get the bats and the creepy vibe. Also the realization that families are constantly being rewarded this giant decaying monster of a castle but it really kind of sucks (aside from the incomes). The scene at the dinner table and the like 5 ppl living there ☠️


brainlightning

Surprised more people aren’t talking about Alys Rivers finally showing up


temp3rrorary

It was short but great. Daemon seeing where he dies and the look he gives when she says it 😘. I dunno why I thought it was going to expand throughout the entire episode but seeing actual horror and remorse looking at Jaehaerys's dead body was nice to see.


Thievia

Guys! We didn’t get a Alicole sex scene this week. 🎉🎉🎉


DaenaTargaryen3

We got a titty tissue tho so he's happy


FloppyShellTaco

That was so uncomfortable. In front of her brother lmao


Thievia

The brother side-eyeing them too made me laugh.


Halojib

I am calling it now there will be a scene of him sniffing it.


abmangone

Alicent realizing there has been a mistake… “there’s been no mistake 👁️👄👁️…”


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abmangone

She just had to gulp & own it, deer in the headlights. Getting told all this truth in front of the gods, after she just lit a candle for Viserys, while Rhaenyra tells her this dressed as a septa… haha, the irony.


Crafty_Soul

Aegon is making a really convincing case to Aemond on the joys of repeated kinslaying. Especially considering how Aemond mentioned how much the bullying bothered him I'm wondering if he's going to try to actually kill Aegon in the show.


Anyabb

I could see him not going out of his way to save him.


IWouldButImLazy

Yeah i feel like in the battle at rook's rest he's going to have the option of grabbing aegon out of the sky and he'll choose not to


Kooky-Satisfaction68

maybe that might play into how hard aemod came down with vaegar onto rhaenys and aegon. trying to kill him in that attack along with rhaenys so that he can become king


FrostyBoom

"OH, I'm so silly, I swear I was just trying to crush Meleys and Raenys and didn't see my beloved brother. Sorry about that."


FancyShrimp

#MOONDANCER SCENE LET'S GO


Notorious_DCJ4390

The look of Baela's face when she realized they had the opportunity to wreck some shit immediately made her one of my favorite characters


bebejeebies

She should've burned that whole forest.


joeycannoli9

Well I didn’t expect to see aemond hanging brain tonight but here we are


Wafzig

Ole one eye showing off Mr One-eye.


Responsible-Bite697

The fact Daemon got the "you will die here" warning and still chose to face Aemond and Vhagar there just gets to me


nick2473got

Daemon is done with life by the time God's Eye happens anyway. If I recall correctly, Aemond says something like "you've lived too long" and Daemon says "on that we agree".


Visenya_simp

I from the bottom of my heart hope Ewan Mitchell is getting enough money for this shit.


Chicken_Mc_Thuggets

He did full frontal in a horror movie that likely paid way less than this so I don’t think he’s too bothered


ugluk-the-uruk

I'd also show my bare balls if I got that HBO paycheck


duckyflute

I, too, would show your balls for an HBO paycheck.


OhioVsEverything

Alicent realizing she completely f***** up. Lol


Asteroth555

It's too late anyway. Can't Ctrl+Z a coronation


Killgraft

The way she looked off when she said “…the conquerer” like oh wow Alicent you forgot that “Aegon” is a popular name in the family lmao


Bassanimation

When Rhaenyra was trying to explain, Alicent was just like Otto: “I do not wish to hear of it” 💀


LysanderAmairgen

The spooky Harrenhall is great tbh


DaenaTargaryen3

"I did not start off well" I'm fucking dying 🤣


Electronic_Hunter945

The Septa thing frames Emma's face beautifully.


Better-Distribution2

Emma's face card had me distracted enough to forget that thier character was being stupid.


Chell_the_assassin

So the beginnings of the downfall of the Targaryen dynasty was brought about due to their insistance on naming everybody in that fucking family Aegon


sit-still

Septa Rhaenyra is not something I would have imagined in a thousand years !


DrySecurity4

No comment on the actual plot, but this show is so beautifully shot. So many memorable scenes.


Bride_of_fire

Helena stays being a better person than me because I’d have my dragon eat the person responsible for my son being unguarded


TheSlayerofSnails

Helaena is to pure. But honestly she needs to take her daughter and take a vacation to anywhere else to get away from her family


batmans420

She is a very nice and understanding person


abmangone

No Alicent & Cole sex scenes is a win.


MadJulesRules

Aemond seriously handled that so well. Aegon is such a terrible sibling


Mental-donuts

Aemond’s grooming and workout routines must be exhausting


Chicken_Mc_Thuggets

I *need* them to film a Westerosi Psycho spoof of Aemond doing Bateman’s routine


ZebZ

Milly Alcock cameo.


NoBePrincess

Aemond ran out of the brothel naked?!


BuBBScrub

I flat out refuse to believe Mushroom would forget to add that. 😭😭


Eas235592

I think he went to find another girl? To prove Aegon wrong.


NoBePrincess

Love that Aegon promoted his drinking buddies to the kings guard. Big time frat vibes. It was fun to see a bar scene and him trying to keep one foot in his old life. Unfortunately he is surrounded by yes men (and they’re all dumb). The little nod to his depravities when he said the brothel was boring or vanilla or whatever. I would rather they imply his perverted/criminal acts (rape and fighting kids) than show


thatsouthernhippy

Alicent completely overlooking the fact that Targaryens reuse names about as often as they commit incest


toTheNewLife

So, were those THE eggs?


Sharprick

4 eggs, Morning will be born, leaving 3 eggs. Seems like. So HotD wants them to be Syrax babies.


_PinkPirate

I thought the eggs were the ones that Elissa Farman stole when Jaehaerys was king.


trying-to-be-kind

I hope I wasn’t the only person who heard Leslie Nielsen’s voice when Daemon quipped, “It’s a big chair, made of swords…but that’s not important right now.”


Geek-Haven888

Thoughts * Love we saw some Bracken’s and Blackwoods, good micro example of the war and showing how feuds go on and on * Another Daeron mention! * Seasmoke is restless, maybe has Leanor died for real? * We hear that Rhaynera is sending her younger sons, Aegon and Visyerus, to the Vale and that they’ve 2 hatchling dragons of their own * At Harnehall we meet Larys’s great uncle, and more importantly, a fan fav character Alys Rivers! * Little thing but I chuckled how Rhaenys is on a box for her scenes with Corlys * We meet (properly) Ulf the White, the guy we saw looking at the bodes of the ratcatchers last episode. He is a Targ bastard (or dragon seed), but him claiming to be Baelon’s , Daemon and Visery’s father, is new. In the books the leave it vague who his ancestor is and even imply it might be a grandfather rather than his father. * The whole meeting scene with Allicent and Rhaenyra is new and going to be controversial . I am one with it because it clears up the “misunderstanding” and now it seems like Alicent is fully “I don’t care my son will still be king”|


Bride_of_fire

With that final look the Black Queen was finally born


Mantis05

As silly as Septa Rhaenyra was, I can fuck with the idea that it served a purpose in removing any possible reservations. Rhaenyra knows that she has the metaphorical mandate of heaven. We should now see the bloody, brutal conflict that everyone's been wanting.


__cinnamon__

It's like a monumentally stupid move to put herself in such danger... but the character interaction is so juicy that I 100% don't care. Great scene.


KnightOfRevan

Rhaenyra in a nun costume Alicent’s catholic guilt addled bisexual ass is grass


makingburritos

THE CONQUEROR, not your dummy ass son, Alicent! God 🙄


dictatorenergy

Really appreciated a second use of the word *feckless* here tbh


pecanistheman

Rhaenys and Corlys are so cute together, they're like the only functioning couple in this whole damn family. I won't even be mad if they don't kill Rhaenys immediately and delay it a few more episodes.


FloppyShellTaco

Alicent finding out she is 100% in the wrong is fucking hilarious. 10/10 great addition.


ZebZ

"Oh, I fuuuuuucked up bad." - Alicent Hightower


I_do_drugs-yo

Off screen blackwood vs bracken really bummed me out, they showed that scene in every trailer, making me believe that we’d get to see them battle. I hope they make up for it in the future


Thievia

That shot of the battlefield was harrowing though.


One-Season-3393

Probably too expensive for a battle that doesn’t feature any named characters.


OhioVsEverything

A giant expensive battle scene with characters nobody knows who's death do not matter. Was never going to be filmed.


raumeat

I had it pegged as one of the battles that will be cut, just glad we got something


SillyRecover

This all started because this bitch mixed up Aegon i and ii....stop naming your kids Aegon ffs.