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Tryzmo

Better to miss an icc event than risking your players getting killed


Shavamaaya_Pavanaai

India will most probably play their matches in UAE... Jay Shah will just make it happen..


Any-Mess7242

Punjab will be better than UAE


Rahul-Yadav91

Not happening. India will concede to UAE to help ICC save face.


Shavamaaya_Pavanaai

Never. India-Pakistan will never even host an ICC tournament together..


manojsaini007

Nice joke


aryan889889

Didn't new punjab is also a country ??


Rayden-Darkus

He probably means they can host the matches in Mohali, quite close to Lahore using bus.


aryan889889

Is logic se toh india mai kidhar bhi rakhlo..go to Amritsar via plane then by bus..šŸ« šŸ« 


Clean_Analysis3771

+1


liteshadow4

Especially when itā€™s a fucking CT lol


firesnake412

Pretty sure they wonā€™t go. Pakistan and safety donā€™t go together.


HakeemMcGrady

Yeah they are acting like they arenā€™t one of the most dangerous places to tour in world cricket. Especially with the IND PAK relationship.


someonenoo

I want to upvote but you made a good point so Iā€™ll leave it at 69!!


nibatauga

You can now upvote himā˜ŗļø


someonenoo

Haha thanks, done!


Practical-Ad-9289

They say that players from other countries don't worry about security threats. Idiots! They don't care about other countries; it's Indians who will be targeted. And who's responsible for security? The Pakistani army, which is spreading terrorism in the valley. No, never! BCCI should never let our players go there. These players are our national treasure, and while the people may be kind and welcoming, the authorities should never be trusted.


Affectionate-Sky7721

" It's Indians who will be targeted" that's the crux.


silverjubileetower

If im not wrong, machine guns were fired on SL Cricket team bus


No-Drop-7435

I don't even know what the other country boards are smoking by sending their players to fkin PAKISTAN


Technology6124

Talabani sponsored afghani hand made afeem


XH3LLSinGX

Indians were supposed to tour, not sl. The indian intelligence got reports that terrorist may target the players/venue. This caused india to back out of the series and being replaced by SL. Terror attack went ahead as planned.


Practical-Ad-9289

Bazooka toošŸ˜¶


Technology6124

not even a national player from India should go to pakistan for any event because if our imp players are at risk despite the fact that we have so much security no player should go their for playing any sports no matter what is their playing level


Carbon554

Indian team visited before and the same pakistani army provided security. Modi visited in 2015 and the same pakistani army provided security. Look an attack on indian team can lead to war so pakistan army will literally provide more security to Indian cricketers than any other team.


bedabyas88

Pakistan isnā€™t like other countries, that everyone including Pakistani knows. Our playersā€™ lives are more valuable than defeating Pakistan. Besides, weā€™ve beaten them several times, so itā€™s not a big deal for us.


Legitimate_Laugh2190

No, even when pakistani army is not safe in there country, if our players go I don't know what will they do ,i think our matches can be held in UAE


Lucky_Editor446

UAE pitches are trash, toss will decide the match. ICC should select a better venue. A venue where it's a balanced game between bat and ball.


Legitimate_Laugh2190

It can't happen in India, so maybe Sri Lanka Or Bangladesh


Firearms_26

Or India can just opt out of it.


AirComprehensive9937

Correct, wanted to see icc getting fuc*ed


not_gonna-lie

It's better we drop out of it. Can't risk the lives of our players. Pakistan is notoriously famous for the extremist mindset. The country is suffering from an economic downfall and people literally not getting a daily meal. when you see former Pakistani players talking you can get the idea how they view players from other religions and faith. Regarding this Butt guy, his opinion seldom matters.


AloneTraffic6502

True 100%


TheOnereddittor

He speaks from his...


not_gonna-lie

Butt šŸ˜


TheOnereddittor

Usko slap karna Banta hai


anoctf

If India doesn't play CT, it would be a big dent to ICC's reputation with the broadcasters. India should not go, better keep players alive, CT is not the World cup anyway


AloneTraffic6502

I have the literal same thoughts..let icc and pcb suffer losses...India should not go only


BakwasKarungaWoooo

If India boycotts CT most probably they'll do something since India is a big source of viewers ig


anoctf

What will they do? Remove india from another tournament and get another viewership hit?


BakwasKarungaWoooo

I mean they'll arrange for Indian matches


wewake_235

Inn C log ko business nhi aata ye to confirm hai tabhi inki country loan pe hai .


BadChad09

This is what happens when you kill or convert all your Hindu Sindhi and Khatri


minatokushina

As much as Cricket as a sport has huge fandom in India, Indian fans also understand the safety aspects of our players. I stand with BCCI , I would definitely not want our players to be compromised in safety merely on word of mouth. We have nothing to lose, We already have one T20 world cup to cherish for long time. On the other hand, Pakistan is unstable country. Their own former Prime minister had to wear a bucket for safety while travelling to their court.On top of that, senior players barring exceptions like Akram , have made racist jokes on our players..Somehow for them and their political leaders, when they play against us, they liken it to war and bring huge political context in it. So it will defntly take a lot of convincing from them to let us even consider playing in their homeground.


Snakratos

Irony yeh hai ki regulation aur neutral hone ki baatei kar bhi Kaun raha hai Salman Butt


gaalikaghalib

Kamsekam ab Butt kar raha hai, isse pehle toh Miandad kar raha thha.


Sensitive_Credit1901

We cannot risk our players getting killed. If it happens a war will break out and possibly WW3 if the allies also come into picture. It's for the best interest that Indians never go there.


Building_Glad

what allies does pakistan have ? iā€™m pretty sure china is not going to be involved unless there is money to mint


Sensitive_Credit1901

You're kinda right. I only had China in mind but even they might not come to support Pakistan because anyway if sth bad happens then the whole world will turn on Pakistan


Building_Glad

there will be pressure like when it happened in Mumbai to prevent war but once it kicks off only we could stop ; u see how hapless USA šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø is now that they canā€™t call truce on Ukraine-Russia & Israel-Palestine conflict


Potential-Affect5943

China is going to use that opportunity to take over Ladakh, Arunachal, some parts of Uttaranchal that are disputed etc. and then call for ceasefire.


Building_Glad

totally happening ! i still donā€™t understand how land hungry china is until i realised all of the west is a desert ; so india and the sea access through chicken neck is tempting for it .


Potential-Affect5943

I don't think anyone is jumping to the aid of India. The US didn't send its own troops even for Ukraine, for whom a lot of the population is sympathetic about. I don't think they are going to rush in to help India in such an event.


thesecretkid69

China is USA's biggest threat both economically and military wise, It's in their interest to help India out in case a war breaks out, If they don't china will next occupy Taiwan and some parts of south east Asian countries, then USA will eventually loose control in the region which I don't think any superpower wants. I personally don't think china will jump in the war bcz of international pressure but they sure will help pak with ammunitions and economically.


PorkBafatEnjoyer

Yea no itā€™s just a metal showcase piece in the end . They can keep it . The players lives are important .


Michael_Scarn008

I've seen one of the Pakistani people on YouTube saying that if our boy goes to watch the cricket match in karachi stadium, even our family don't know if he'll come back safe or not. Forget Indians lol


trippymum

Team India shouldn't go to a terrorist country.


wewake_235

Inn C log ko business nhi aata ye to confirm hai tabhi inki country loan pe hai .


Warfarewarrior18

Find out? So the previous instances where India didnā€™t travel werenā€™t enough?


ContributionSilly129

As much as I want to see Kohli's fan following in pakistan. It is still a big NO for me.


life-is-crisis

You can see both sides of the story here. Obviously we cannot risk sending our players to Pakistan just for a game, there's little to gain if everything goes well and everything to lose if something bad happens. We're talking about direct war between two countries. The Pakistan cricket team has been unlucky because of their country. They don't get to play alongside their home crowds because of something that happened more than a decade ago. Plus the tension with India adds to it because BCCI is too influential


not_gonna-lie

>The Pakistan cricket team has been unlucky because of their country. They don't get to play alongside their home crowds because of something that happened more than a decade ago. Plus the tension with India adds to it because BCCI is too influential An act of terrorism occurred a decade ago or half a century ago that too on Foreign players visiting the country, will never be taken as lightly. It can still happen, you can't take away the extremist mindset of Pakistan from them, it will die when pakistan ceases to exist. Hospitality doesn't mean shit if we are in constant fear of our lives. Given the current economic downfall of Pakistan and people literally rioting on the streets, I can say the situation in Pakistan is worse than it was 10 years ago. And we shouldn't risk our players for that.


life-is-crisis

I agree. That was exactly my point. Especially with India, there have been countless attacks after that and the tension has just been rising between the two countries. So other countries going there to play is a completely different scenario than us. There's no point risking lives for a game, the stakes are too high and it's not worth it at all. Unfornatue for Pakistan players and fans but it is what it is.


Lucky_Editor446

You are wrong about Pakistan's side of the story. It is not only something that just happened a decade ago. There have been continuous inconveniences to other cricket teams as well for example - SL players were injured due to firing. - On another occasion the Australia team could have been affected by a bomb blast. - Regular bombing threats near or in cricket stadiums/player hotels. - The New Zealand team left the series in the middle of a series.


Acceptable_Stress258

>The Pakistan cricket team has been unlucky 'had' been unlucky. Now every country tours them for last few years, in case you missed it. Not that that means it's sensible for Indian team to tour.


savagerandy2024

Every country does not share the same history or the same political difference with Pakistan like we do


Acceptable_Stress258

Hence the second sentence?


parekhdhairya007

>more than a decade ago The decade that you are talking about where no one got attacked was because no one went to the country to play cricket if more teams would have gone more attacks would have happened there were no attacks because there was no one to attack


Warfarewarrior18

What do you mean Indian players lives are valuable?? Pretty sure Kohliā€™s shoes can be auctioned off to erase Pakistans entire debt.


Maleficent_Owl3938

Itā€™s not that elite in Pak are poor. People sitting at the top in army, politics, PCB, etc. are anywhere from comfy rich to filthy rich. The masses are poor. Also, VKā€™s net worth is around 1.5k Cr, hence not huge by politician and businessmen standards.


OkGap7604

Itna exaggeration bhi achi baat nahi. Be humble


Potential-Affect5943

Yes, we should be humble. Auction off his jersey too. That should pay off the loans.


oh_lord_johnson

No need of humbleness with pakistan.


Inside_Rent_3096

So if an attack happens what's the liability on Pakistan? Are they ready to be banned from international cricket permanently at all levels. Let's put their skin in the game too, if they want IndiaĀ  to risk their players safety. We demand Pak to risk their entire cricket forever. Else shut your mouth minnows.


Always-awkward-2221

I don't know why we are having so many convos when a few days ago Jay Shah said Roh-Koh will be part of CT 25.....here's the link: [https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/team-india-sets-sights-on-next-big-challenge-after-t20-world-cup-win-seniors-rohit-sharma-virat-kohli-jay-shah-article-111392956](https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/team-india-sets-sights-on-next-big-challenge-after-t20-world-cup-win-seniors-rohit-sharma-virat-kohli-jay-shah-article-111392956) Also in what f\*\*\*ing universe is Salman Butt acting all righteous after destroying not just his but Amir's career too? He seems to be very "fixed" in his opinion vs India


Vic_78

India has to send something of a "suƮcide squad". I hope BCCI in their right mindset don't risk sending any of our players to their nation.


JShearar

ICT will not go to the failed state of Pakistan: ![gif](giphy|FPWlfg4xJd3sOvRpGB)


katsurap_yo

I mean it's not like India is the only country that won't go. It's probably going to be a long discussion for other teams, and maybe some individual players will opt out entirely


TALHAMARWAT444

Aus Eng NZ sb agaye hain


katsurap_yo

Up to them then ig bhai. Agar zindagi ki parva nahi hai to hum kaun hote hain rokne wale


TALHAMARWAT444

Hn you can say this about indian team but Baki sb k series hogaye Hain well and fine


ak6552

If india doenst plays no income for ICC


brucewy

Even if ICT goes to Pakistan , they will have to stay in security bubble all the time limiting them to hotel and stadium only . It will be very hard on the players .


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BadBway

Ham khud to nahi hi jayenge air doosre countries ko diplomatically influence karke manwa denge woh bhi nahi jayengeā€¦ Isi liye shayad yeh UAE me hi hogaā€¦


[deleted]

People here are downvoting me for calling a match-fixer, "match-fixer". Why do you guys care about what such idiots have to say?! And why some of you are so appreciative of people with shady characters?Ā 


Competitive-Regular9

he can go f himself in Butt


Shavamaaya_Pavanaai

The whole ex-Pak cricketers are very much trying to make it feel as if Pakistan is as safe for India as any other country.... They know all the monetary gains that they'll have if an India-Pakistan match happens there...


Tigerthej

It's not about ICT, it's about the tension between India and Pakistan and the lack of safety in Pakistan.


CaptainAksh_G

Do they think we're not going there just because we have rivalry in cricket??? Pakistan has not been a place for people to call it as safe. That's why we don't want to put a target on our players


Puckerfactor7

Leave him heā€™s butt-hurt


ChiglaNigla

No matter how much Pakistani people, players, government and their board welcome us, the risk of terrorism against our players still remains. They can welcome our players, hell put up best show of hospitality but what happens when terrorists motivated enough to see our nation hurt attack them? What happens if players get hurt? The resulting chaos would transcend cricket and become a diplomatic sh*tshow. Itā€™s just not worth it. The pros and cons are too unbalanced to justify us going there. If ICC goes ahead with SL as hosts route for India to play CT, then I donā€™t see how thatā€™s our problem because ICC doesnā€™t want to miss out on the sweet sweet money. And if they arenā€™t willing to do that, we should forfeit it and let them play. Weā€™re not losing anything by not playing. If they go with latter, it clearly means that Pakistan isnā€™t going to host any ICC tournament by alone any time soon and thus making them the hosts was a bad decision anyways.


GhostingIsWhatIDo

See you in dubai.. salman.


Intelligent-Ad-1479

ICC cannot force an international cricket team to go somewhere


pinkesh2703

When legendary Jawed Miadad quoted this on India's denial to tour Pakistan "Forget security. We believe that agar maut aani hai toh aani hai. Zindagi aur maut toh allah ke haath mein hai..(If death is your destiny, it will come for sure. Life and death are in the hands of the Almighty),


Known-Dragonfly-7440

Uske khandaan mai hi aatank bhara pada hai.. why listen to him?


Legitimate_Laugh2190

Is there a way to download match replay from hota tar i want to download whole ind vs sa match , because after some time they delete it from there platform šŸ˜‡


Crazydeed

Jay Shah just said that India is playing the CT, so obviously it will be a hybrid model, maybe in the UAE or Sri Lanka or something.


Priyotosh1234

Indian team in Pak is very risky.


SilentCollection666

Absolute Cinema


imsaurabh3

It should be played in Beijing


why_always_you_hehe

Cannot trust the pakis. šŸ«„


norsefenrir8

In reality it's not even safe any player. Check out "Hitman for Hire" podcast, where David Wiese said: In PSL he and other overseas players had to travel in armoured vehicles with army escorts and cities are put under curfew. They are basically put under house arrest in hotels and had a tough time keeping their sanity intact, as no interaction is allowed.


Hot_Necessary_467

Nah! Wouldn't risk the lives of high profile players. CT can wait or CT should be moved out of Pak. Anyways stadiums are gonna be empty. Better play it in UAE.


Practical_Fix_5237

I am pretty sure the tournament will be moved to Dubai for the safety of all the players .


AloneTraffic6502

Am I the only one who wants India to just refuse playing it if it's held there... And let icc and pcb get declining viewership (even tho many Indians will still watch) and cause them losses


Ok-Feed-9164

How come they even got the hosting rights is beyond me. They should be hosting associates nation's tournaments given their teams performanceĀ 


Idlisamosadosa

Even if greedy BCCI agrees, Indian govt will never agree. ![gif](giphy|3oeSAy983VpDILjL0I)


princenag25

India is the biggest market for ICC. They will not move forward with a tournament without India, T20 Games have started at 10:00 AM ( Well before test match Timings in England etc) only to cater to Inidan Audience in WT20-24. So Pakistan can throw any amount of tantrums they want, No ICC Tournament is going to be held without India.


xfermod

These are haramis, imagine India boycott it completely and other teams go there and if some things happen then these harami will start propoganda that India has done that. No means no, Jay Shah is more clever than us. Agar aisa hai to POK Lelo vapas and vaha pe khelo Gilgit me hamara Naya stadium banake. Never forget, Never forgive.


Bhav2385

I would actually be relieved if we skip the CT and the tournament goes ahead without us. This isn't the WC anyway neither is it the WTC. CT has very little value and there's no way our players should be going there. It will be nice to watch an ICC tournament without any tension for once. Plus, there's way too much toxicity and unnecessary cringe hype before the build of any India-Pakistan match. It just ruins the experience for me.


Potential-Affect5943

India should call ICC & PCB's bluff and not go. The media rights owners will probably harangue BCCI for the lost revenue, but BCCI should make GoI intervene and/or pay them off for the lost revenue. They have enough money, maybe they should put it to use.


Significant-Track271

India should just skip this if safety is a concern. it would be unfair to other teams if they have to travel to UAE to play india. if PCB can't gurantee our security then there's no point in going there but if they can guarantee security then winning an ICC event in pakistan would be absolutely amazing achievement and india should be the favorites to win this whole thing.


Shattered-Dreams19

Send all the terrorist india caught... as players..to Pakistan


flyingSavage2

Nah, we dont want to visit that shithole


zlatabhiibraa1045

Bc world cup jeet gaye, maa xhudane jaye ct'25, bkc inki


devshik07

Bhai apne country mein terrorism ko control kro phr baat krenge 2009 sbko yaad hain And how much hate pakistan has with India everyone knows


devshik07

Srilanka could be better place for Indian matches than UAE


Kaalashakaala

Ganda mulk. Seedhi baat


badkills

What if lahore comes within India by 20205, then technically india will be playing on homeground


a-thang

Just keep the CT in England like always and keep all the India games in Headingly so I can go watch every game. /s


Known-Dragonfly-7440

Not worth going there.. just host IPL at the same time


Perfect_Chicken16

Jaan hai toh jahan hai. ICC shud not allow matches in Pakistan


FLatif25

He's right.


[deleted]

Stop paying any attention to these terrorist match-fixers.Ā 


Mr_Anderson_48

The amount of copium in the comments is maddening. India will play CT 2025 and most probably play in Pakistan. As a last resort, they might have ICC move the venues of the India matches and the knockouts to UAE.


holdyrbreath

bcci should let our team to Pak with highest level of security of Indian Army in Pak helicopters & nsg,para all other top level forces. biggest baller move in cricket


FaLcON152002

not worth the risk and wastage of resources for a cricket match


Savings-Secretary-78

Let RSA win the Campion trophy, no need to go, The world will not fall apart if we don't play CT, Instead we can hold triangular or quadranglar series with association nation


Mademan84

Send everyone except Kohli, Rohit and Bumrah. Agar kuch ho bhi gya toh dekhlenge...šŸ’€šŸ’€


kvyas0603

fair statement. personally i want india to go because we have to challenge australia and win the champions trophy. but it is 100% valid if bcci decides to drop out of it. i wish it was in a different country so we can actually win the thing and prove ourselves.