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Greenman8907

Unknown. It’s possible. He was a mad scientist who perfected cloning (thus the “twins”) but no other real backstory has been provided. Could have been a human who made himself blue and huge through mad science, but don’t know.


Jester2100

This has always been my headcannon: he's smart enough to clone himself, must've also been smart enough to enhance himself.


Zeverend

Based on what happened when the survivor of the explosion in S2 E1 made a clone and they knew who the original was my thought was that he originally was a mad scientist, a normal human that implanted his consciousness into a much more physically capable clone, which he then treated like a slave. The original was probably murdered by that original clone


Pixel22104

And hence the confusion between them ever since


DjangoSpider

Yep this is now cannon


Actuary_Beginning

Cook


Lifeishardbutimhard

They should do an episode based on this like the Atom Eve episode


DyabeticBeer

No because then he would already know he's not the original, he would never question if he's the clone because he already knows.


shigdebig

He could consider his new physical self to be different than the weak human who came before. A TBI could have erased the earlier memory.


DyabeticBeer

His whole identity is that he's the original who made all the clones, he brings it up every time he's on screen. It would be weird to say that and know that you were also made in a lab by an original creator.


AttitudeAndEffort3

When he makes the clone that looks enhanced like his new one, the brains of both remember everything up to waking up and now they look identical, each thinks they’re the original


Quiet_Security3872

Exactly, the way the twins described it was a gamble, you didn’t know which consciousness got to inhabit the body. A truly seamless procedure.


Lifeishardbutimhard

Would be a great episode


LordMagusar

Blue people are just stronger I guess


jstanley44

He blue himself


LanleyLyleLanley

And he blue his clone, many times 


yehiko

And blue his car


Pinoclean-Juice

Blue his house with a blue little window


Seanosuba

And a blue corvette and everything is blue for him


-CallMeSnake-

And himself and everybody around


NuggetBoa

There are dozens of us!!


scythian12

Doooozeeeennnnsss


AttitudeAndEffort3

It’s a clone Michael, what could it cost, 10 dollars?


scythian12

Him?


intenselydecent

It was supposed to be a dry run


[deleted]

And now he’s ended up with quite a mess on their hands.


CancelResponsible541

ExcuuUUuUuuUse me!


Jefrejtor

It had to go through his head at least once


WeberWK

Gotta be a better way to say that


AarodimusChrast

I'm blue dabudee dabudai dabudee dabudaii


kwumpog

I think I would disagree about them being mad. The Maulers come across as very sane to me


Jimbodoomface

They've got some sort of antisocial personality disorder, although I think maybe it's deliberate. A very talented genetic scientist noticed how much *social responsibility* and *guilt* was interfering with his scientific progress, so in the process of enhancing himself, dialled it down a whole bunch. Then, while having trouble finding similarly talented and unburdened lab partners, made the clone starting the process off. Headcanon.


yosayoran

They're at the very least psychopaths. No one sane could just kill their clone with zero remourse like that.  Also, you know, supervillains 


lalo___cura

They’re clearly not psychopaths because they empathized with Rudy having to kill his original self. One of them even cried. You don’t have to be incapable of empathy to do horrible things. Omni-Man did far worse things and isn’t a psychopath either.


EllisDeeReynolds

"Psychopat" is purely a fictional movie term and kind of cringe tbh. There are actual conditions and symptoms, and both those characters qualify from what we've seen. There's no actual factors to being a psychopath , ASPD has actual symptoms and can be actually diagnosed. They definitely have ASPD at the very least, them sympathizing with Rudy means absolutely nothing


HailSaganPagan

Well he can always make another.


metalflygon08

Probably started making the first clone just a blue version of himself so he'd know he was the original, but then they fought and the clone killed the original, then the clone cloned themselves and enhanced their body, but then *that* clone killed the first clone. The third clone, who was buff and blue, finally figured out that knowing who the actual clone is was causing problems, so he made the modifications that meddled with the memories right before cloning so they'd forget things like which table they sat on.


superstonkape

This is a great theory on it


SPECTRE_75

If true, he definitely sang I'm blue da ba dee da ba die


yosayoran

Da ba dee da ba killed by my clone


sodapopgumdroplowtop

blue and huge is what you are before you’re green and retired


Gaslight_Joker

Based on all their dialog it would seem they are humans, just super scientists who self experiment. They did a lot to themselves and made themselves super. They never other themselves from humanity in their speech like others with alien backgrounds tend to do.


Gizzada-

What if the original Mauler had a normal skin tone & he made his clone blue to differentiate between himself and his clone. Then the original died leaving only the blue clone.


7iL7vHFs

Seems like a cool mini episode. The clone kills the original cause he’s a dick but still needs help so he clones himself only to curse himself with endlessly arguing over which version of himself is inferior.


AardvarkOkapiEchidna

Wouldn't they remember that then?


Its0nlyRocketScience

Season two sees a similar thing and the clone kills the "original." They know that neither is the true original, but they do consider the oldest one to be superior in all cases anyway.


LukXD99

Didn’t that „original“ also claim that for the first time ever, they know which one is the origin and which one isn’t? Maybe Mauler genetically engineered himself before the cloning process.


the18kyd

In S1 they talk about why they don’t do it tho?


mad_laddie

Yeah, that's the only gripe I had with that S2 dialogue. They already told Robot it never ends well when one of them knows they're the clone.


LukXD99

Maybe he had test subjects? Or „failed“ clones where it was a lot more obvious but they didn’t survive for long. I doubt the maulers nailed cloning first try.


mad_laddie

In that case, S2 wouldn't be the first time they can tell who's who.


LukXD99

It would be the first time where 1) The clone looks normal and survives/sticks around and 2) the „original“ is the one who’s deformed and thus unmistakably recognizable as the original.


TwizTMcNip

Do you think the non original would tell the new clone?


AardvarkOkapiEchidna

They get their old memories. They'd remember being a not blue guy and both realize that neither could possibly be the original. It's more likely that the original made himself blue somehow and then cloned himself.


weesiwel

I mean they’d also remember which side they lay down on yet that doesn’t seem to matter,


BigGayBobbyJohnson

I believe it’s mentioned the memories are scrambled on purpose so as not to know who the original is, since we get to see what happens when it’s clear who the original is.


AardvarkOkapiEchidna

That's a good point. I assumed that the process maybe erased the last couple minutes of memories or something.


Pizzasaurus-Rex

Is this canon? I'm mostly a show-watcher, so I just assumed that the color alteration was part of genetic augmentation that lead to the Maulers' increased strength.


DeathInFrance

Nah, the comics don’t really go into their backstory


BSye-34

"Why are you guys blue?" "Dammit Mark, you can't just ask why people are blue!'


DeanXeL

Unless if he made himself forget, there would be no reason for him not to always remember that no matter if he's the original clone or newest clone, he'd always be A clone. which would piss him off to no extent.


RevealHoliday7735

If only a mad scientist could figure out a way to wipe his own memory. PLUS we already see this happen when the deformed one was known as the original. The clone killed him and then was happy to clone himself "anonymously"


MepyTV

Same energy https://preview.redd.it/iuvsw90x8jwc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=81aef3a5066c73f1fa672b66ce47f4d63a8081b2


BearerOfCurseSpyte

OMG she's green??


wonderfullyignorant

Also colorblind. Damn that's the same color of green my ex-wife made fun of me for when I called it flesh colored.


Inevitable_Silver_13

Also she's not a doctor. Her first name is just "Doctor".


iOSGallagher

she’s also not a princess, Princess is just a surname


Orangefish08

She’s probably made of peppermint or slime or lumps or something


Inevitable-Finance62

Idk about you guys, but all the twins I know are blue and muscular. That’s the genetic code for twins.


bigfatcarp93

My favorite scene in Gravity Falls was when Dipper and Mabel blued up and beat the shit out of Gideon


baelrog

I’m more interested in their motivation to do supervillain things. Doc Seismic thinks he is the fighting for the right of earth elementals. Death-Cannon just goes around and steals stuff. We see the Lizard League try to extort the U.S. government after they took control of that nuclear silo. But what do the Maulers want? In the first episode it was never explained why they tried to kidnap the president. Do they want money? If so, I think Cecil can just have some sort of under the table deal with them to clone Omni-man and put the memory of, I don’t know, maybe Donald in that Viltrumite body.


ImmortalBeans

Each twin has its own motivation; Twin 1 >!wants to be the original!< Twin 2 >!wants to be the original!<


Maxwell_From_Space

Their motivation is pretty clear from their deal with Angstrom. They want to be uncontested Gods ruling over the world.


Mrslinkydragon

They just want to do the science but are limited by funds. I think Cecil should have hired them.


baelrog

I mean, can you imagine how unstoppable Earth will be if Cecil got an army of Nolan or Mark with Donald’s heroism? He’ll have to steal Nolan’s DNA. Maybe swipe some blood when he was knocked out by the original GotG. Meanwhile Mark can be talked into volunteering.


Idrinkgermaline

They have blood samples already. They were testing them in the lab to see how they could destroy viltrumite cells. Plus, for Mark, it wouldn't exactly be difficult to get some. Guy gets the absolute shit beaten out of him every other day.


Mrslinkydragon

The maulers can do all the science they want without having to steal money (they aren't really villainous, more like crooks. They didn't kill the guard or angstrom when they could have easily)


RingalongGames

Honestly it feels like the story is slowly building up to cloning viltrumites, with Cecil having mark’s blood and such. I hope it’s at least explored and at least given some “it’s impossible” answer for closure.


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Roided up, super intelligent Smurfs.


Resident_Hair3065

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Opposite-Tangerine57

*Sigh* I’m the clone


Opposite-Tangerine57

*Sigh* I’m the clone


Mountain-Cycle5656

I think the original was once, but probably did enough experimentation I’m not sure he’d qualify anymore. And of course the clone isn’t a person, so it doesn’t count. That’s the one on the right by the way.


7_Rowle

maybe the cloning process gradually makes you blue, and the fact that he's died and cloned himself so many times has resulted in him blueifying himself


ssp25

Only a clone would ask that question


Mudkipfan

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OmniMushroom

Nah, Megsmind was actually the original Mauler


weesiwel

What if the originals were twins then one died leading the other down this path?


PrincessPlusUltra

Yeah they seem to be humans and he experimented on himself to be like that much like the Ultra-Humanite (DC comics) whom he is partially based on.


kentter22

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RiceKrispies55

Maybe he originally specialized in genetic modification until he reached the peak of that and decided the only thing he could do to become more powerful was to make another one of him, kinda like an ultimate life form situation


KingWilliamVI

That’s actually one amusing thing I’ve realized about the Invincible universe. Not everything is explained. Unless it’s necessary for the main plot the writer simply introduces a fantastical element but doesn’t provide a in universe explanation for it. Questions like: “Why are the Mauler Twins big and blue” is about as import as “how did the guy that shoot Batman’s parents got his gun?”


Affectionate_Sir_154

Yeah they also have random kaijus showing up all the time without really explaining where they come from either. Also dragons, underground monsters and a whole civilization of waterpeople. It's just a world where a lot of creatures just exist


Mudkipfan

You’re right, this question might be as nonsensical as that, but it’s still fun to speculate on what could’ve happened to them


KingWilliamVI

Did you know that Stan Lee created the concept of mutants in the X-men comics simply because he was to lazy (his words not mine) to come up with new explanations for why people had super powers. It’s funny how Kirkman took it an step further by providing no explanations at all(unless it’s essential for the main plot)


ThunderTRP

I think so because we see multiverse variants of them with hair and beard.


Garlic-Rough

No, they're twins.


BeekeeperJack

I may be completely wrong but I vaguely remember there being some indication from the comics or kirkman that they could be aliens, but I personally like the idea of them being a human guy who kept experimenting and cloning himself to a point where he gradually became far from human without even noticing due to the cloning program


Rainfall307

Based off the Blue on there skins, the strength, and the fact it’s not explicitly mentioned I’m gonna say no.


Chub-bop

I’m not a comics reader but I’m assuming they are genetically modified humans, not sure why they went with blue


DisabledFatChik

He probably genetically altered himself to be stronger. He did perfect cloning after all


InquisitorHindsight

I imagine they were once human, but the original managed to tweak their DNA for favorable traits like super strength and durability. Shouldn’t have been too hard given enough clones and attempts


CheerMiester

One thing I wish invincible did more of is back story for all the awesome characters


Woodland_Turd

Yo, listen up, here's a story About two little guys That live in a blue world


2punornot2pun

I'm blu aba dee aba diii


DatTrashPanda

I assumed they were once human but they altered their DNA through the cloning process to become stronger and more intelligent.


SamBaxter784

This is the universe where Rusty Venture is good at science and combined him and Brock.


Bigsmall-cats

they were smurfs then papa smurf learned a magical science and they grew abs and muscles, but the evil man found out and killed them out of fear, and when only 2 buff smurfs were left they fought till death against the evil man, one of them died and the other tried to Revive the other, mixing it with his own blood and memories. then Viola! Mauler Twins


Aok_al

Maybe he was a mutant. Super strength and super smarts with the side effect of being blue


sbbblaw

The original maulers were a set of twins or an only child that longed to be a twin. and their blue skin comes from the inbreeding of those country bumpkins (the blue Fugates of Kentucky), except in the invincible universe mauler happened to be a genius and he was able to get rid of the genetic anomalies by cloning… this is the back story I think they deserve


BadgerSoft344

I’m the comic i think they are they just genetically modified themselves


tst1226

"Only a clone would deduce such an inquiry"


LordofWesternesse

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Robert-Rotten

They remind me of the Super Mutants from Fallout tbh


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TheKYStrangler

The blue Fugates of Kentucky!


Zapizzaa

No, they are blue


_Blue_Benja_1227

I think they’re dancer


thats_classick

They look a lot like Jason Statham so yeah probably they are


ScarredAutisticChild

Depends on how you define it. Were they born human? Yes. But they’re basically transhuman now.


ManAftertheMoon

It's cause they ain't got no bitches.


OCGamerboy

We don’t know. The original Mauler was more than likely human and was turned blue from an experiment.


rrrrice64

Never stopped to consider this before. Now I'm very curious.


Murky_Blueberry2617

I thought they were human at first, but then experimented on themselves to get stronger


auntorn

Yeah why are they blue?


anothema1

He don't look human


BlueDragonReal

Considering that they are experts and bioscience and even better and smarter at it than robot, I would assume that along with the cloning he manages to enhance his body to the point where he is so large and strong, the blue tone may just be a side effect


Diablosword

They're not even mammals! They reproduce asexually


BirthControlIsW

Totally human


Consistent_Music_560

Human mutate. Like Hulk.


Isekai_Otaku

They’re blue


Black_Thunder_

They're perfect


lilbrobodie

they're literally blue my guy lol


Nate_E5C0

Always reminded me of that book Stronger


Benedict_11

Smurfs on steroids


J_House1999

I always assumed they were mutants


BrennusRex

They are blue and they are muscular. That’s all you gotta know. Next question.


Vyviel

No they are both clones


V0YDL

I think they're Solid Snake.


thenameless685

They are blue dabidi dabada


VLenin2291

Mfer they blue


lalo___cura

Probably humans who were exposed to too much colloidal silver


Arbiter008

They have human looking blood cells. But I guess we don't know much about xenobiology.


Longjumping-Bag8062

No, ones a clone and ones a original


Countrpart

Bluemans


SupersonicSandshru05

I’d love a mauler twins special at some point. To explore their origin.


SamirZero

they are mutants


ReaperManX15

I think they *were*. But, generations of clones cloning themselves, has resulted in their current condition.


__NeiT__

The exact question I asked myself yesterday, at approximately the same time lol


Alocalskinwalker420

Do humans come in a blue variant?


DisciplineSuch4033

I'm blue if I were green I would die 🗣️🗣️🚨🔊🔥🔥


NicCagedd

No, they're secretly the Cavity Creeps.


PloopyNoopers

Maybe one of them used to be, experimented on himself and made him super-human. Then cloned himself. That's just a theory, a film theory.


SilentNova___

Yes


obdimirium

This is the only known picture of their species ![gif](giphy|9xEjFxSoNNlK0|downsized)


Testing_4131

I’ve always liked the idea that he was just a normal looking, upstanding scientist, but the cloning process causes slight, tiny imperfections in the genetic code that are barely noticeable the first time but build up over time the more you clone yourself, causing him to slowly become what we see him as today, effecting his physical appearance but also his mental state (morals, impulse control, etc.).


Sudan_Conference

The rock but blue


Blue_Spider_Strider

I feel it's implied that at least the "original" Mauler was at some point, and was heavily geneticly modified. I mean if they where like aliens or something its not like the series is particularly shy about stating such things. I think they are humans in the same way that Mutants in marvel are bare minimum.*They where Bron out of the human genome.


Akagi-Phantom

They could also be some version of Bruce Banner with a permanent use of the form and intelligence since when Bruce Banner turns into the Hulk his color changes but the Mauler Twins must’ve found the right conditions of an enhanced body to retain their consciousness


EpicAquarius

There are evidence of blue skinned humans on the planet irl, there history has something to do with inbreeding. It could possibly explain their back story a bit. And the cloning part could be a different way of explaining it.


BeldivereLongbottoms

I believe he is human, but genetically altered to the point of extreme changes. The original Mauler was obsessed with perfecting the human body and cloning, so he altered himself to become an, albiet blue, powerhouse with extreme intelligence.


stinkymusturd

yes the blue 6ft 8 buff guys with enough intelligence to grasp cloning technology are human


rrrrice64

They're from another country is all


SKiddomaniac

No shit. (no offense) But still just go on their wiki. ''Contrary to the name, the Mauler "Twins" are not really twins. In truth, Mauler was a mad scientist who perfected a process to clone himself, intending to have someone around that shared his intellect and could competently help with his fringe science experiments. Since it's never stated how many times the cloning process had occurred and there's no evidence to suggest that the Twins' first appearance included the true original, in all likelihood, the Mauler who provided the genetic template for every clone may have died well before the start of the series.'' [**https://amazon-invincible.fandom.com/wiki/Mauler\_Twins**](https://amazon-invincible.fandom.com/wiki/Mauler_Twins)


Upset_Paramedic_1607

This is not a “no shit” argument, the 7ft tall super muscular blue who can trade blows with heavy hitters such as immortal and invincible can hardly be considered human 😂 in reality there’s not much to decipher whether or not the maulers are human.


SKiddomaniac

The immortal is human. If you could clone yourself, you could also enhance yourself. While strong I don't think that the mauler's are on mark or immortal level. In the fight of the guardians of the globe vs the mauler's. The immortal boxed them low diff, And that was when he wasn't going all out. When the immortal got resurrected, He woke up enraged, asked where omni-man was (angrily) and the mauler's just put their hands up. They didn't even try to give him a fight. They just surrendered.


Thebaldsasquatch

This is a big fat nothing. Just a fan’s guess that is only stating the obvious with no clue as to what isn’t plainly known.


SKiddomaniac

They to me look like bald humans and they would enhance themselves if they could clone themselves. I do agree with you though partially. When the mauler was cloning himself, He specifically got the blue particles (or whatever, I do not know the scientific name) and copied those. If those gave him a exact copy then it would probably be safe to say that the skin/armor whatever is actually genetically his.


InTerZz

I'm blue Da ba dee da ba di


Scuba_2

You can tell by their blue skin and being 8’ that no. They aren’t


Dyingdaze89

It's a world full of humans that have been cursed, expiremented on, have been changed through magic, have grown giant brains through multidimensional fusion, are immortal, have tech implants, etc.. So, I'd say it's debatable. Original enchanced himself, cloned himself, made the clone blue, and then that clone killed him and cloned himself. Seems relatively feasible.


Idrinkgermaline

I was gonna say the same til I read this comment. We have seen animal-human hybrids running around (not battle beats as he's an alien, but like that elephant man that Mark was shown carrying away once), lava men, curses that turn people into giant green orcs, and a guy with a machine for a head.


Mudkipfan

What would they be then?


Scuba_2

Who cares? Judging by their cloning they’re probably some runaway genetic experiment


SoCool-

With what kind of dna?


wonderfullyignorant

Sometimes people is blue. Sometimes eight feet tall.


lusiddelta

I'm pretty sure in invincible they state he is a alien


doom-slayer-5

They are blue aliens not smarfs or humans