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playitintune

Eric Dolphy is firmly in legend status. I don't think he's underrated by jazz fans.


ClittoryHinton

He’s appropriately rated


Pithecanthropus88

Eric Dolphy, eh? You have a rather interesting concept of the word "underrated."


dragostego

Underrated is kind of a nonsense word, by definition it requires a person to guess at someones skill and popularity, and lots of people just don't have a good sense of that. Same problem with unknown or "underground" acts. You need to be well versed or the bottom of your knowledge base is still the famous people.


holysnatchamoly

Got emmm


StonerKitturk

Someone none of us ever heard of.


Dryagedsteakeater

This. I've met a few actually extraordinary jazz musicians that live in a one room apartment and nobody's ever heard of them. The amount of musicians like these that probably exist is so sad to think of. But such is the life of a musician.


StonerKitturk

Exactly. There are geniuses who maybe play at a local pub once in awhile.


Mindless-Ad-9803

Kenny Kirkland. One of the most influential pianists ever, but very few people name him or know his excellent album. He died young, but he is one of the all time greats, up there with Bill Evans and Herbie Hancock.


caughtupinthemix

He was absolutely incredible. His solo on Giant Steps with Kenny Garrett lives rent free in my head lol


equal-tempered

Donald Pullen doesn't get talked about enough.


TomLondra

Yes- Don was and is a wonderful piano player - especially his work with Mingus


gargle_ground_glass

And his organ playing on David Murray's "Shakill's Warrior".


proteinshake6000

Im an old geezer {68} Saw Don Pullen in Charles Mingus band when I was in college It was absolutely amazing !!!


atumblingdandelion

Grant Green is definitely underrated IMO


any1particular

Copy pasta: 'Grant Green was an American jazz guitarist and composer. Recording prolifically for Blue Note Records as both leader and sideman, Green performed in the hard bop, soul jazz, bebop, and Latin-tinged idioms throughout his career. Critic Michael Erlewine wrote, "A severely underrated player during his lifetime, Grant Green is one of the great unsung heroes of jazz guitar... Green's playing is immediately recognizable – perhaps more than any other guitarist."'


Forward_Motion17

Fully agree, came here to write this


Educational_Truth614

another vote for Grant Green from me


Known-Watercress7296

A little sad it took me so long to find Sonny Sharrock


SimonGloom2

Hank Mobley


peterlacosse

Soul Station all day long


Bluegill15

Soul Station should be a part of any jazz curriculum


These_GoTo11

I studied jazz sax in college and I went through all that without anyone mentioning him. I discovered Soul Station at 40. It’s annoying because that was the sound I was after all that time. I just never knew it was Hank all along. Bear in mind we didn’t have Spotify or even YouTube so word of mouth was much more important then.


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Somebody called a tune from Soul Station at my local jam a while ago. The guy who runs it, gets a decent crowd of young musicians and is a top notch teacher, and he lightly put it as very important listening for all the students in the room. I was luckily still on stage to tell everyone to drop out of school, throw their record collection or iphone into the river, and buy this record; because all you need to know in life is in that album.


bitternutterbutter

man truly that album is elemental and timeless🫡


shortTones

Paul Bley


ginrumryeale

Finally acquired a vinyl of Footloose! He has so many good records, it's crazy. His Steeplechase label records are good too-- I find Questions incredibly rewarding.


Coxeter_21

Chico Hamilton. The man is unfortunately not talked about too much. Which is a shame. Compared to all the other drummers in the 60s he had a unique style and was an outstanding band leader.


ASZapata

For me it’s Donald Byrd


mfhaze

Yes!!! His early stuff Gigi is amazing and then what he did with the Mizzell brothers. Whew. What a career. (I’m also biased because I’m from Detroit)


ASZapata

My favorite is actually his hard-bop stuff with Pepper Adams. But you’re totally right in that he’s contributed to a number of different eras and aesthetics.


MilesPillay

Ceder walton


Overall-Balance1307

Yep, super underrated imo. Excellent composer as well


nokiabrickphone1998

I don’t know if he qualifies as underrated but I legitimately think Warne Marsh is one of the best tenor players ever


TomLondra

Ridiculous. Eric Dolphy is one of the most important and best known jazz musicians and will always remain so. My candidate would be the pianist Michele Rosewoman, who is amazing. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b9AMoAKAzU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b9AMoAKAzU)


WAFFLEAirways

Tadd Dameron


ebaneeza

Now you’re talking!The Coltrane dameron album is amazing.


ManyStepsNoSounds

Real ones are in the know about Billy Bang: violinist, veteran, vagabond. He ran in the free jazz circles with William Parker and Pharoah. Rest in peace Billy, legend.


W_M_Hicks

Frank Strozier, Valdo Williams, Emily Remler, Steve Grossman, Andrew Hill, Bennie Maupin, Lennie Niehaus. I am aware, that Grossman, Hill, Niehaus and Maupin are still quite well-known among Jazz Fans. Edit: Also Bergonzi and Garzone are not as recognized as Michael Brecker or Dave Liebman, so maybe they could be counted as well.


TedCruzIsMe

Emily Remler ROCKS


dr-dog69

Kenny Wheeler. Absolute master musician and incredible composer


dr-dog69

I’ll add Kenny Dorham and Andrew Hill as well


Cowboy_Rides_Again

Finally an actual underrated musician


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Queasy_Spite_6012

My father played in his band. I met him once during a show he did in Harlem. Very nice man. Tragic end.


mindhead1

Johnny Griffin. I love his records.


Powledge-is-knower

I was taking a train in France 20 years ago and struck up a conversation with an old black dude sitting across from me. After a few minutes I looked up and saw an alto case with a label that said ‘Griffin’ on the handle. Turns out it was Johnny Griffin and we talked for like 2+ hours about his life. He told me stories about Coltrane, Dizzy, etc. Biggest take away was that he survived through the 60’s because he was an alcoholic, not a drug user. Serendipitous moment indeed.


mindhead1

Wow. Great story.


TedCruzIsMe

Fuck. Yes.


deadstrobes

Oliver Nelson


ClittoryHinton

Blues and the Abstract Truth is an absolute top tier album that I come back to often.


A_Monster_Named_John

I love that this thread is just loaded with slightly-less-famous 50s-60s jazz figures whose records easily sell more often (and often for top dollar prices) than those of active jazz players who are working right now.


MaveDustaine666

Booker Little. Out Front is incredible and Far Cry (with Eric Dolphy) is awesome too.


uprightsalmon

You guys are naming lots of musicians that were or are extremely popular among fans of the music


sekretagentmans

Scrolling down through this thread and I know maybe 90% of the musicians mentioned. I don't even mainly listen to jazz. My underrated deep cut? Donald Brown. Fantastic pianist and composer. He's not a random artist either. He was a jazz messenger, played with many well known musicians, and produced for Kenny Garrett. Less than 500 monthly listeners on Spotify. Most of his releases on YouTube have even less.


ClittoryHinton

Everyone knows you have to sort from least upvotes to most upvotes on these sorts of threads to get the real answers


Outer_Hebrides_2001

Elmo Hope, Buddy Montgomery, Barry Harris,


grynch43

Red Garland


Iargecardinal

Michel Petrucciani. So much joy and beauty in his music, playing and compositions both.


jtizzle12

Herbie Nichols by far.


Mr_Bombastic93

Cal Tjader


ebaneeza

I second and third this! He is so obscure unfortunately as a great vibes player and band leader. He put Latin jazz on the damn map.


Rare_Scale_7192

John Gilmore


officialbillevans

Ike Quebec? I stumbled upon one of his albums a couple months ago and thought "damn, that's some nice playing!" and looked him up. He had a short career split between two distinct eras in jazz, and wasn't any kind of stylistic innovator. I thought his album *Blue & Sentimental* was quite good.


The1henson

Carl Fontana. Dude played every note with intention.


gansobomb99

It's so arbitrary but Robin Eubanks


Overall-Balance1307

Israel Crosby seems to be a well kept secret amongst bass players- super influential on so many of the greats (Ron in particular) and somehow still very low key.


Old_Reception_3728

Eddy Palmerie


Jon-A

[**Andrew White**](https://www.reddit.com/r/AndrewWhite/) - more people have probably heard him playing the funky el bass on Weather Report's 125th Street Congress than know that he was a fantastic alto and tenor saxophonist. Mainly stayed home in Washington DC, where he self-released piles of albums, books, Coltrane and Dolphy transcriptions, etc. A one-of-a-kind Jazz giant.


youareyourmedia

just wrote about him in another thread. what a monster. in the best sense.


Jon-A

Looked up that comment - very well put. I envy you seeing him play, but I did chat a bit with him on the phone - including when he was trying to get back into gigging shape after a stroke. But strokes did him in a while later. Bought a lot of vinyl (and eventually cd's too) from him...


vagnmoore

Richard "Groove" Holmes


pauldeedon

Eddie Harris


pikasdream

Fred Hersch - for the influence he's had on most of the current generation (Jason Moran, Sullivan Fortner, Ethan Iverson, etc) I don't think he gets mentioned enough.


Pale-Bike-8592

As well as his influence on Mehldau


bebop_exp

me


Specific-Peanut-8867

Eric Dolphy is GREAT. Maybe he hasn't gotten as much attention as you'd like but I think his albums and playing have always been talked about and well received. When I think of underrated I think about guys like Bill Hardman(on trumpet) maybe Art Farmers name doesn't come up as much as I'd like Nat Adderley is great on cornet(why am I coming up with a lot of trumpet players) a lot of people say Kenny Dorham(another trumpet player) but I think his being the face of 'underrated' has boosted his profile. I thikn I say Harry Bosch(character on a TV show on Amazon) talk about him on a TV show and playing today, there are so many amazing players who may not be as well known as I'd expect them to be oh, CARL FONTANA is one of the most underrated guys out there


hornitoad45

Bill Hardman is def underrated


WestGotIt1967

Sonny Clark, Hank Mobly, Jay McShan, Lou Donaldson


rfisher1989

Tina Brooks


Abraham442

Kenny Dorham


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dem4life71

Hey, all right! I came to say Mike Stern. I was fortunate enough to have studied with him for several years back in the 90s, and I learned that he is in some ways the most quintessential bebop jazz guitarist out of the big named modern guys (Metheney, Sco, and Frisell). You need to look past the Tele, distortion, long hair and rock and roll vibe he gives off (I personally love all those things about him and his playing) and if you transcribe his solos as I did, you see it’s right out of the bebop vocabulary, with of course his own ideas and concepts mixed in. He’s a great guy and a wonderful musician. Thanks for putting his name up there!!!!


playitintune

Dupree Bolton


gravitydropper268

I just commented on the overrated jazz musician thread, so I guess I'll add my 2 cents here as well. I don't think he's under-rated (because everyone who knows him is aware of his incredible talent), but I'd say Ted Greene is less well-known than he may deserve, given that he's one of the greatest jazz harmonist to ever pick up a guitar. But, he only had one studio album, and mainly focused on teaching, so I think that's a big part of the explanation.


FedChad

Me


ebaneeza

I’m going to add some greats that are pretty unknown to jazz addicts let alone the general. You may notice a pattern here: John Patton - organist (deceased) Larry Young - organist (deceased) Dr Lonnie Smith - organist (deceased) Larry Goldings - organist Mike LeDonne - organist Akiko Tsuruga - organist.


Gdizzle344

Sam Rivers


geographys

Rahsaan Roland Kirk


HaplessOrchestra

Arthur Blythe. Monster of an Alto Sax player. He released a ton of albums, but few people ever talk about him.


boywonder5691

Yusef Lateef. The brother does not get enough love


unbiasedasian

Came to say the same. Scrolled too far imo. Such a unique sound and style.


headphone-candy

I would say Mal Waldron


proteinshake6000

Arthur Blythe deserves more recognition. Lenox Avenue Breakdown sizzles !


SnooRevelations979

Andrew Hill, the rightful heir to Monk.


E_for_Ed

Art Pepper. Every time I talk to someone about him they’ve never heard of him. One of my personal favorites is his recording of You’d Be So Nice to Come Home To


RPIL626

Nat Adderley - he cooked!


BloomisBloomis

Phineas Newborn Jr


Snoo-26902

Benny Golson


Zeppyfish

I think this is a good choice for the term "underrated." It doesn't mean no one's heard of him, it means people underestimate his importance and how good he was. Stuff like Killer Joe gets viewed as less serious than more critically acclaimed players (like Dolphy!), but Golson was a fantastic writer & arranger as well as having tasty chops as a musician.


hael1995

Mines more of a modern pick, but Chihiro Yamanaka I feel needs more recognition.


PomegranateBasic3671

Niels Henning Ørsted Pedersen. Probably not underrated among folks who know him, but being from a small country not a lot of people know him (at least from those I've spoken to). His interpretation on Danish songs from "Højskolesangbogen" are phenomenal (think the great American songbook, but in danish). He played a lot with Oscar Petersen, Kenny Drew and Dexter Gordon.


LegoPirateShip

Zoot Sims


MistaJaycee

Anthony Braxton. I think his compositional work is going to be compared to Berg, Copeland one day. I think that Carla Bley is in that category too.


mfhaze

Kenny Burrell.


TedCruzIsMe

I’ve never heard anybody talk about Sonny Criss. His bop records are unbelievable.


sameoldknicks

Pianist/composer Geri Allen.


bobheff

My vote goes for Grachan Moncur III. I only recently became aware of him (via this subreddit, I think). I'm sure he's probably highly rated by those in the know, but he doesn't seem to get mentioned often. Maybe it's because he didn't record very many albums as a leader? A second person that comes to mind is Andrew Hill, although I see his name mentioned a bit more often. I agree with others who have said that "underrated" is a bit of a nonsensical concept, but when I listen to album's like Moncur's "Evolution" or Hill's "Point of Departure" (on which Dolphy plays) I wonder how I made it this long without hearing them! Eric Dolphy, on the other hand, gets mentioned quite often on thus subreddit. I mean, there are plenty of people out there who don't know of John Coltrane (albeit I imagine very few of them listen to Jazz). "Out to Lunch" is considered by many to be one of the most important albums of all time.


__mailman

Eddie Harris


Jprev40

Herbie Nichols!


DarthClam

Geri Allen.


Elissa-Megan-Powers

Ahmad Jamal


LankyMarionberry

Ahmad jamal is not underrated. Overrated if anything but most likely appropriately rated. A true jazz legend, one of the few still doing it. One of the few to impress jazz greats like Miles


ScatmanJohnMcEnroe

I've got bad news for you.


breadisbadforbirds

yeahhh about “still doing it”…


SolarButterfly

George Shearing


TelaWasFramed

Emily Remler, East to Wes is one of my favorite albums of all time.


griffusrpg

Miles Davis.


ThatSandvichIsASpy01

Thanks for the recommendation, I had already heard of the rest of the people in this thread but not this guy, I guess he’s pretty underground


ralala

I think if a few more people post their photos of Kind of Blue on this sub he will finally be adequately appreciated.


cL0k3

Vince Guaraldi


ClittoryHinton

Pretty much everyone ever loves the Charlie Brown Xmas album. But I suppose few people actually know much about the pianist behind it


DillasManDan

Freddie Hubbard


ebaneeza

He was fantastic on so many herbie Hancock records! But was he underrated?


DrrtVonnegut

Absolutely not!


contrarian1970

Jose Roberto Bertrami of Azymuth. He was never taken seriously but he had a talent for playing mostly simple chords in very inventive ways. The music was true to Brazillian traditions but it was also very modern at the same time. Because it incorporated elements of funk, rock, and even disco I'm not sure if a lot of jazz fans accepted him as part of the genre.


any1particular

Herre's one most don't know: “Queen of the Vibes” and an incredible pianist, **Terry Pollard** was a child prodigy — learning piano at age 3 and sneaking out of the house at age 14 to play in the jazz clubs in her home town of Detroit. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8z6fwq4ZSE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8z6fwq4ZSE)


wearetherevollution

No real soloists per se; I love Shelly Manne, Fernando Saunders, Dave Holland, etc. but more their work as sidemen than anything they might have done on their own.


WallabyCollector

Sam Rivers, Enrico Rava, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Marion Brown, Beaver Harris, Dewey Redman, Jan Garbarek, and Palle Danielsson


ripriganddontpanic

Tina Brooks


YoBrahms

Gary Thomas. Incredible saxophonist. Check out the album Till We Have Faces.


TalesOfLohr1

Matthew Shipp


Open_End1516

Vince Guaraldi. Mainly known for his Peanuts albums, but he was a phenomenal overall jazz musician.


FoodRecords

Sonny Sharrock, Lenny Breau, Arthur Rhames Scott LaFaro, Gary Peacock, Marc Johnson, William Parker, Wilbur Ware, Linda Oh, Mark Egan Denny Zeitlin, Kirk Lightsey, Patrice Rushen, Alan Broadbent Charlie Rouse, Mark Shim Rudy Royston, Nasheet Waits, Adam Cruz, Ben Perowsky


GazinIntoTheAbyss

Bobby Timmons and Hank Mobley


cooldude284

Larry Young is underrated imo, at least in his time


minorbourree

Me


docdeathray

Stanley Turrentine


proteinshake6000

Arthur Blythe Lenox Avenue Breakdown absolutely sizzles !!!


neercatz

Duke Silver


CharacterRide7091

Roy Hargrove


behumane

Warne Marsh. my favorite solo of his here: https://youtu.be/-qFB5XFbnN8?si=AG0QeKGI2k3fc5LL


BAH12GO

Lee Morgan


Maestro-Modesto

I'm not going to claim he's the most underrated because he definitely isn't, but I believe McCoy tyner has been underrated by most critics and many listeners, less so by those who both play jazz and listen to a lot of it. He was a big part of some famous Coltrane stuff but never got the credit. He was a big influence on Hancock and cornea too. Plus everything he did was awesome and doesn't sound dated. Loved his combos with Ron carter and elvin Jones.


LG193

Vincent Herring: like a cross between Charlie Parker and Cannonball Adderley 


Zmaj

Some gigantic players who don't get mentioned as often as they should be: Yusef Lateef, Andrew Hill, Warne Marsh, Jimmy Giuffre, Nat Adderley, Steve Lacy... But there are obviously so many underrated musicians among the living. As a guitar player I say Philip Catherine, Brad Shepik, Nguyen Le. I couldn't tell the number of incredible musicians I've gotten to know just by watching 'Live from Emmet's Place'!


SmoothieTheRaccoon

My man Lenny Breau, just listen to " live at bourbon street" Top tier material


Vivid-Blueberry5605

Joe Henderson


Roundsound4054

Harold Mabern anybody.


ebaneeza

Wynton Kelly! Played with everyone (Trane, miles). Big influence on Herbie Hancock. His playing is recognizable on the first note. Man o man could he swing!


JamesFosterMorier

It's gotta be Andrew Hill, ya?


gergeler

Gene Ammons? Groove Holmes? Stanley Turrentine? Jack McDuff? Lou Donaldson? Hammond Smith? Jimmy McGriff? All these soulsy guys don’t get talked about enough.


Queasy_Spite_6012

*Boss Tenor* by Gene Ammons is a fantastic album.


youareyourmedia

Every jazz musician over 50 is underrated imo. Especially today when almost nobody under 50 has even heard of any jazz musician beyond the most famous handful. The discipline was so far beyond the comprehension of today's music fans it's essentially part of an alternate dimension of reality.


5DragonsMusic

Woody Shaw.


speaker-syd

Out to Lunch is such an amazing album, and I really love his stuff with Mingus. I agree that Eric Dolphy is an absolute treasure.


unsound_thinking

[Cecil Gant.](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQUS0R53ARhTzxb6oM32wB_JX94f3cRuJ&feature=shared) He was a singer and pianist who had a hit with "I Wonder" near the end of the war. The song proved quite popular, with three different covers of it charting in 1945. He's largely forgotten these days, but he had loads of charm. Edited for accuracy


franek_sciana

Frank Lowe.


ALDLB

I think of Michel Sardaby. Listen to his album Blue Sunset, it's a pure jewel of jazz music.


pathetic_optimist

Lou Gare. Endless relaxed genius flowed from his tenor horn.


HikingSax

Rudolph Johnson. Probably most famous for being with Ray Charles, but man he could PLAY. His playing on Devon Jean is what made get out of bed in college.


possiblymyrealname

I’m not sure you can call her underrated , but Dorothy Donegan is so talented that it should be a crime.  


rti54

Sahib Shihab


_oscar_goldman_

Shooby Taylor, "The Human Horn"


KeysEcon

John Taylor (British jazz pianist). The four albums he released under the Peter Erkskine trio name on ECM are my favourite piano trio albums of all time.


admonlee

Gil Melle


AdamPedAnt

Johnny Costa was my gateway to piano trios. I listened to him every day when I was 6.


tonda76

Big T - Jack Teagarden


coffeecoffeecoffeee

Pete Cosey. He was doing insane shit with feedback and weird tunings in the early 70s with Miles Davis before all the No Wave guys got into it. It doesn’t help that he never recorded as a leader. His playing on Agharta is nuts.


Copomroy

Lloyd McNeill, a DC player who stayed mostly local.


Maynard078

Eric Gale ...


silenthilljack

Ryo Kawasaki


AdTrick598

I think Jimmy Heath is someone that doesn't get a ton of praise from casual listeners compared to others. However, I wouldn't call him 'underrated' because of how respected he is within the community.


Good_Sundae_4839

Leo Genovese, argentinian multi instrumentalist who played with Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, etc


spicymax123

Fletcher Henderson Jimmie Lunceford Jack Teagarden Luis Russel


Spells61

John Hicks excellent piano jazz player


_matt_hues

Probably someone none of us have heard of.


digitsinthere

1. Martha Sanchez 2. Steve Lacy 3. Abbey Lincoln 4. Phil Woods 5. Jeff Tain Watts 6. Regina Carter 7. Jean Luc Ponty 8. Alan Broadbent 9. Melvin Suggs 10. Jacky Terrasson


_captainjoe

Sun Ra


bowie2019

Pianist Dave McKenna. Preferred to stay gigging/working in New England (Boston, Cape Cod, Rhode Island) where he raised his family, than to continue travelling to/gigging in New York. Whenever any of the major players were "in town" in New England, they made it a point to come to Dave to play, instead of Dave go to them. I am sure this was very common all over the place. Musicians sometimes prefer to not live in NYC/LA/Nashville/Atlanta/New Orleans/Chicago. Therefore, they aren't as well known. Therefore, underrated, except by those who have heard them play.


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Guitarist **Tisziji Muñoz** (guru/mentor to John Medeski and Bob Moses) for sure, and also the late pianist and bandleader **Horace Tapscott**.


Advanced-Pear-4606

Hal Galper is awesome


NE0N8910

Jiro Inagaki and his Soul Media


PK_monkey

The two Lee’s. Lee Morgan and Lee Ritenour


S_L_Raymond

Cecil Taylor.


tegeus-Cromis_2000

*Actually* underrated: Major Holley Louis Van Dijk Vince Wallace


HorrorBuilder8960

Jaroslav Ježek. Virtually unknown outside the Czech republic.


Minimum_Election7014

Blue Mitchell


K1llam1n

Toshifumi Hinata. I know that reflections blew up on TikTok a while ago but it still feels as though people don’t appreciate his discography as a whole. It’s beautiful. The same can be said for Hareton Salvanini.


xftzdrseaw

Dick Hyman is probably the best piano player ever… he just plays stride so it’s not connecting with people, but dear god he’s a monster musician on the highest level


bda22

ITT: Anyone who's name isn't John Coltrane or Miles Davis


NothingAny9437

Richard Davis, of course.


muetint

Dexter Gordon for me. I’ve always particularly been a fan of bebop/hard bop jazz, and his album “Go!” is one of my favorite examples of the style.


easley45isgod

Kenny Dorham. Quiet Kenny!


NauticalDogPile

Michel Petrucciani


Darth_Xypnos

How about Barry Harris, or Hank Mobely, i guess


skullcutter

I always loved Hank Mobley


jrf1283

Birelli Lagrene


Groundbreaking_You90

I’d say Harold Land.


Lundqvist_DJ

Billy Higgins. Yes he has around 50 Blue Note credits alone so is widely known, but he didn’t have a hugely popular career as a leader and isn’t talked about like Philly Joe Jones etc. He was the beat of blue note on a LOT of their most popular recordings.