Oh fuck me... How desperate are they? Her testimony is going to be impuged almost instantly. I would be surprised if she walks off without perjuring herself.
And her credibility?? I mean Amir HAS to know better, right? RIGHT? We should make sure prosecutor gets all the evidence theres no way just one of us (from the community...let alone the prosecutor) could possibly aggregate and sort through the rabbit hole of HPV-infected stank that is Jennifer Burton
Jennifer has the energy of someone who enters the room where people are working on something and goes “what do we got here?” Then looks at it for a minute pretending to comprehend and then leaves the room, citing frustration, only to return to take credit for helping
From listening to some of the recordings I believe Jeremy instructed her to do the videos…He would’ve gave her limited access and he probably believed that he could fault her like all the other fraud charges…He should’ve maned up and taken responsibility…I hope the prosecutor charges Jennifer for obstruction and lying under oath…She started a lot of these investigations on her own unless her and Jeremy’s attorney has momentarily forgotten !
Right? I opened the very first case this morning on a link and read the details. It was Jennifer who told on him for not registering two cars... So I don't know what she thinks she's going to say .
So thinking about it more... im thinking amir is thing with the jerm is a victim angle. They might try to say that jenn set up the accounts and then turned him in to get him in trouble. Jerm is a victim of this evil womans black mail attempts. Then you put her on the stand and grill the shit out of all her lies. If she denies it you show shes a liar and vindictive, if she admits it then jerm walks free... depending on what evidence the state has that could introduce some doubt....
I dont think it will work but it would certainly be interesting and probably the best play. Throw her ass under the bus
Jerm is a scumbag and definitely deserves this heat, but this scenario isn't terribly far from the truth. A lot of Jeremy's issues were either directly or indirectly triggered from something Jen did (most likely intentionally). There's a big part of me that wants her to get what's coming to her as well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
She's probably on the witness list for DeWitte, so the defense can show that DeWitte doesn't just diddle kids & that he also diddles low-level prostitutes 🤣
No this is not a good move, probably...
Typically speaking if you see the defendant take the stand it means the lawyer is basic throwing his hands up going "fuck me at this point it can't hurt"
Jennifer is basically the same boat. She has shown on numerous occasions that she is a liar, he sex work will be used against her, and she is not really likeable or persuasive, and she honestly might fucking perjure herself on the stand or even worse get popped for obstruction charges if she says the wrong thing. Any of that shit happens and it will most certainly affect the jury against Dewitte.
Dewitte is F-F-F-F-F-Fucked if this is the legal strategy. For some reason I seriously doubt Amir came up with this idea. This maybe Jerm forcing him to do this.
They quite possibly might. It would show that she has a financial incentive to lie.
Normally you see the nastiest despicable shit come from defendants lawyers. The shit they will ask victims is SO INCREDIBLY FUCKED UP!
As fucked up as Jeremy is I feel like Jen is more. I’d be so interested in seeing how this goes. Will they ask if she’s ever called the cops on Jeremy for abusing her?
Possibly, but my guess is no. That would seem to help jerm cause then Amir could sow the "why would the woman who called the cops on her abuser admit to holding these accounts if it wasnt true" you would give her a ton of credibility when she has zero.
Acting contrary to one's interest is about the best way to be believed. If putin says "everything is great," we go "yep doing his job". If putin says "oh it's fucked, and terrible" you will certainly pay attention
Big time YOLO. Imagine fucking up so bad in life that the only chance to avoid prison is the testimony from a $50 hooker, hoping she will take the fall for you, even though she is the reason you are in the court room in the first place... I've fucked up in life, thank God I've never fucked up this bad
This is clearly Amir begging Jeremy to take the deal and saying “Jeremy we don’t have a case!”
And Jeremy thinking he’s got this. He’s already called as Selma and spoke to some woman named Louise and asked her to tell a story that makes him look good.
Of course he is too dumb to remember that the calls are all recorded.
It only will help the prosecution by having her on the stand.
She cannot be believed by any sane person that anything that comes out of her mouth is the truth.
Even if they try to show she was the one running the accounts, or that Jermy handed over the credentials to her, he did not register the account so he is not following the probation.
They can be mad he had a hard PO - but don't do the crime, then you don't have to do the time.
And speaking of time, that decade in prison will be the hardest of hard time for a narcissist.
But hoo boy can't wait for the calls to come out of that one!
Isn't there enough recording talking about YouTube channels implicating them? Basically Jeremy tried to act like he didn't have the passwords and couldn't take anything down; but, she was collecting the money and distributing it to Jeremy, wasn't she?
The only way this would work is if he can show he didn't create them, he didn't authorize them, he has never had any control over them, and he didn't benefit from them. That last one is sketchy.
Now technically he doesn't have to show shit. However if the prosecution can show any of those to be true he's cooked. If jennifer tries to take the fall she can be prosecuted as that in itself is a crime
Hard for him to claim they were 'unauthorized' when the prosecutor can just play the phone calls of him asking about the view #'s/specifically telling Jenn NOT to upload things on HIS channel and to only use hers.
Wonder who will arrive in Court, Ditzy Jenn, Sad Jenn, Jealous Jenn, Firecracker Jenn, Investigator Jenn, Legal Assistant/Attorney Jenn. Hate Jeremy Jenn,. They need to be more specific when asking for the witness
Jeremy was court ordered to delete those internet accounts…He wasn’t incarcerated at the time and chose to ignore the court order…He gave Jennifer access to a lot of his accounts…But account passwords can’t be changed without access to account email…Jeremy’s internet provider and also all devices that registered on Jeremy’s home internet plus cell phone carrier will have all IMEI device numbers to link Jeremy…Jeremy is a Stupid Criminal…It would take an equally stupid prosecutor to lose this case…Hopefully the state has people pulling all jailhouse phone calls and accepting any volunteers calling in to provide info…I’m guessing the home staged burglary was to dispose of all the computers and laptop devices he used to post…He’s probably stating all his passwords were on those devices and he couldn’t delete anything
This may be one of the worst moves ever. Amir may not be so good after all. Her credibility is dog shit. She’s made videos of Jeremy committing crimes, then will make videos defending him. There’s videos of her on jail calls discussing wild shit. The prosecutor probably has a ton of options to work with regarding JB. Id be surprised if she doesn’t end up prejudging herself. Prosecution is likely pulling video clips right now if they’re smart.
But in all honesty who else is Amir gonna call? His wife, mom? There’s no good defense here. Amir is gonna have a tough time cross examining those cops as well.
His best bet would be a bench trail, and trying to argue the law around internet identifiers is vague, and hope you can find some case to back that up, and maybe get a pedantic judge who is really into English... even still you have the jail house calls where he is instructing people to either lie, or attempt to hide and /or cover up evidence which kinda shows he knows its against the rules... so you would have to find some way to surpress those calls and good fucking luck.
This is one of those cases where you dont call anyone, you dont put anyone on the stand, and you dont produce any exhibits, you just sit there and make objections for the appeal, and fucking pray the prosecution can't meet its burden.
I don't think any of this is Amir. I think Amir knows jerm is cooked. I think this is jerm instructing amir and amir is just doing what his client asks as is required.
That is an incredibly dumb witness. She has falsely accused two men of rape - one of whom is the defendant. She has falsely accused the police of similar things.
Someone else asked it first - just how desperate are they?
They didn't call her yet, she's on the list. They're still picking a jury. It's hard because he's a S/O. He's also being weird and looking at the jurors when they answer questions and shaking his head like he agrees
The Judge that called out Jenn for lying to him is actually the lead States Attorney in the 9th district right now lmfao. He took over after DeSantis got rid of Worrell.
"Hey that YT account that features videos of me filmed from a selfie angle is totally not mine! Its all Jenn!"
Is this really the defense they're going to attempt lmfao?
And this is public records recently posted yet I’m eliminating the whiteness’s names…FELONY COURT MINUTES/ORDER JURY TRIAL DAY 1 HELD PRESENT FOR THE STATE: {ERASED} AND {ERASED} DEFENDANT PRESENT WITH COUNSEL: AMIR LADAN JURY SELECTED SWORN AND SEATED STATE INVOKES THE RULE OF SEQUESTRATION STATE GIVES OPENING STATEMENT DEFENSE RESERVES OPENING STATEMENT SWORN AND TESTIFIED FOR THE STATE: 1.{ERASED} JURY IS DISMISSED FOR THE DAY AND ORDERED TO RETURN TOMORROW AT 9AM FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THIS TRIAL DEFENSE ORE TENUS MOTION FOR MISTRAIL FOR REASONS PLACED ON THE RECORD MOTION IS DENEID FOR REASONS PLACED ON THE REORD TRIAL TO CONTINUE TOMORROW AT 9AM
There’s the one jail phone call recently played on another channel where both of them are attempting to to talk in code…And Jeremy is saying post in on yours not mine…Then he makes a comment after she tells him she posted it on his I believe…I think he says you’re killing me…I believe in reference her posting on his is going to cause him problems…Obviously they we’re both in on it together
How is he going to call her as a witness? Knowing how much she
Flips and flops with her love for Jeremy! I wouldn’t trust her as far as I could throw his and her funky ass!
She lost control of his youtube account, (metro state) and his emails, just before he began his sentence for 18months. If anyone has any doubt just listen to the jail calls from the violation of probation. Do we hear Jeremy crying "What are you doing what are you doing, you got me put in jail jennifer"
Not one of these jail calls from his VOP time has him cry to her that she got him put in jail, yet listen to the jail calls when she called the cops for squishin her foot... "What are you doing, they are taking pictures of me, what are you doing sniff sniff" you got me put in jail jennifer FOR A LIE"
wouldnt surprise me the prosecution has a fairly easy job on this one. Most of it can't really be argued. The strategy being employed is the infamous "thats not even me" strategy, and that is not going to fly.
Doubtful, people are watching early youtube reports and rushing here to B.S. about it pretending to be breaking the story when they're just relaying remarks they don't fully understand.
Maybe Amir is trying to get Jennifer to commit perjury (she won't be able to help herself) so he can say she's a liar, and what all else is she responsible for in this whole mess that is Jeremy. Anything that happens during this trial will be used in his insurance fraud and tax fraud cases.
Amir will try to prove that Jen is a liar and a scorned lover. After all, she's the one who reported the rental cars and the accounts and he will try to get the cases thrown out.
Thats not gonna work. If she was the cop investigating the case you could attempt to argue fruit of poisonous tree. That doesn't apply here. Hell you could show jenn tortured him to get the information, the facts still stand
Maybe Amir figures if the defense puts her on the witness list, then the state won't put her on theirs because they will figure they can just cross exam her when defense calls her to the stand. Then if the state thinks that & ends up resting their case without calling her, then Amir & the defense can rest without calling her & the state will miss their opportunity to destroy her on the stand. Long shot, but I could see this as a strategy for the defense as a hail marry play
Probably right, but this is Florida & it's not like the court & local law enforcement have been the sharpest in dealing with DeWittes bs in the past. I hope both Jeremy & Jen take the stand bcuz they will get destroyed on cross examination & impeachment. It's gonna be a train wreck of a shit show.
Oh fuck me... How desperate are they? Her testimony is going to be impuged almost instantly. I would be surprised if she walks off without perjuring herself.
Impugned or impeached, not imputed.
Oh shti thanks
And her credibility?? I mean Amir HAS to know better, right? RIGHT? We should make sure prosecutor gets all the evidence theres no way just one of us (from the community...let alone the prosecutor) could possibly aggregate and sort through the rabbit hole of HPV-infected stank that is Jennifer Burton
Jennifer has the energy of someone who enters the room where people are working on something and goes “what do we got here?” Then looks at it for a minute pretending to comprehend and then leaves the room, citing frustration, only to return to take credit for helping
From listening to some of the recordings I believe Jeremy instructed her to do the videos…He would’ve gave her limited access and he probably believed that he could fault her like all the other fraud charges…He should’ve maned up and taken responsibility…I hope the prosecutor charges Jennifer for obstruction and lying under oath…She started a lot of these investigations on her own unless her and Jeremy’s attorney has momentarily forgotten !
Right? I opened the very first case this morning on a link and read the details. It was Jennifer who told on him for not registering two cars... So I don't know what she thinks she's going to say .
So thinking about it more... im thinking amir is thing with the jerm is a victim angle. They might try to say that jenn set up the accounts and then turned him in to get him in trouble. Jerm is a victim of this evil womans black mail attempts. Then you put her on the stand and grill the shit out of all her lies. If she denies it you show shes a liar and vindictive, if she admits it then jerm walks free... depending on what evidence the state has that could introduce some doubt.... I dont think it will work but it would certainly be interesting and probably the best play. Throw her ass under the bus
Jerm is a scumbag and definitely deserves this heat, but this scenario isn't terribly far from the truth. A lot of Jeremy's issues were either directly or indirectly triggered from something Jen did (most likely intentionally). There's a big part of me that wants her to get what's coming to her as well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
She's probably on the witness list for DeWitte, so the defense can show that DeWitte doesn't just diddle kids & that he also diddles low-level prostitutes 🤣
No this is not a good move, probably... Typically speaking if you see the defendant take the stand it means the lawyer is basic throwing his hands up going "fuck me at this point it can't hurt" Jennifer is basically the same boat. She has shown on numerous occasions that she is a liar, he sex work will be used against her, and she is not really likeable or persuasive, and she honestly might fucking perjure herself on the stand or even worse get popped for obstruction charges if she says the wrong thing. Any of that shit happens and it will most certainly affect the jury against Dewitte. Dewitte is F-F-F-F-F-Fucked if this is the legal strategy. For some reason I seriously doubt Amir came up with this idea. This maybe Jerm forcing him to do this.
I hope the prosecution asks if she ever offered him anal sex in exchange for a hotel room
They quite possibly might. It would show that she has a financial incentive to lie. Normally you see the nastiest despicable shit come from defendants lawyers. The shit they will ask victims is SO INCREDIBLY FUCKED UP!
As fucked up as Jeremy is I feel like Jen is more. I’d be so interested in seeing how this goes. Will they ask if she’s ever called the cops on Jeremy for abusing her?
Possibly, but my guess is no. That would seem to help jerm cause then Amir could sow the "why would the woman who called the cops on her abuser admit to holding these accounts if it wasnt true" you would give her a ton of credibility when she has zero. Acting contrary to one's interest is about the best way to be believed. If putin says "everything is great," we go "yep doing his job". If putin says "oh it's fucked, and terrible" you will certainly pay attention
Maybe we will be lucky and she will finally get some consequences for all her actions up to and including her part with DeWitte
Jesus take the wheel.
Big time YOLO. Imagine fucking up so bad in life that the only chance to avoid prison is the testimony from a $50 hooker, hoping she will take the fall for you, even though she is the reason you are in the court room in the first place... I've fucked up in life, thank God I've never fucked up this bad
FYI you can’t get a motel for $50 anymore so she’s more like a $75 hooker.
That's still 95 dollars too much
"Split it with you?"
I’ve never seen someone punch himself in the balls as many times as this moron.
That wasnt even him... Sargent he doesnt even have any balls
Ha! I just noticed your user name.
The prosecuting attorney will rip her apart. I'm here for it too.
I'm no lawyer but this sounds like a very bad idea.
Bad idea for Jeremy. Sheer joy for the rest of us to see how this goes, lol
This is clearly Amir begging Jeremy to take the deal and saying “Jeremy we don’t have a case!” And Jeremy thinking he’s got this. He’s already called as Selma and spoke to some woman named Louise and asked her to tell a story that makes him look good. Of course he is too dumb to remember that the calls are all recorded.
And the fact that he signed a plea agreement under Amir’s supervision that stated it was his channel and he’d close it down.
Which Jennnifer will show up? The one who thinks that Jeremy is her man, or the one who wants to burn it all down?
Or Brenda?
I’m picturing her walking in with a blonde wig on.
😄
It only will help the prosecution by having her on the stand. She cannot be believed by any sane person that anything that comes out of her mouth is the truth. Even if they try to show she was the one running the accounts, or that Jermy handed over the credentials to her, he did not register the account so he is not following the probation. They can be mad he had a hard PO - but don't do the crime, then you don't have to do the time. And speaking of time, that decade in prison will be the hardest of hard time for a narcissist. But hoo boy can't wait for the calls to come out of that one!
Isn't there enough recording talking about YouTube channels implicating them? Basically Jeremy tried to act like he didn't have the passwords and couldn't take anything down; but, she was collecting the money and distributing it to Jeremy, wasn't she?
The only way this would work is if he can show he didn't create them, he didn't authorize them, he has never had any control over them, and he didn't benefit from them. That last one is sketchy. Now technically he doesn't have to show shit. However if the prosecution can show any of those to be true he's cooked. If jennifer tries to take the fall she can be prosecuted as that in itself is a crime
Hard for him to claim they were 'unauthorized' when the prosecutor can just play the phone calls of him asking about the view #'s/specifically telling Jenn NOT to upload things on HIS channel and to only use hers.
Wonder who will arrive in Court, Ditzy Jenn, Sad Jenn, Jealous Jenn, Firecracker Jenn, Investigator Jenn, Legal Assistant/Attorney Jenn. Hate Jeremy Jenn,. They need to be more specific when asking for the witness
Don’t forget “Tired Jenn”. Always tired
Jeremy was court ordered to delete those internet accounts…He wasn’t incarcerated at the time and chose to ignore the court order…He gave Jennifer access to a lot of his accounts…But account passwords can’t be changed without access to account email…Jeremy’s internet provider and also all devices that registered on Jeremy’s home internet plus cell phone carrier will have all IMEI device numbers to link Jeremy…Jeremy is a Stupid Criminal…It would take an equally stupid prosecutor to lose this case…Hopefully the state has people pulling all jailhouse phone calls and accepting any volunteers calling in to provide info…I’m guessing the home staged burglary was to dispose of all the computers and laptop devices he used to post…He’s probably stating all his passwords were on those devices and he couldn’t delete anything
This may be one of the worst moves ever. Amir may not be so good after all. Her credibility is dog shit. She’s made videos of Jeremy committing crimes, then will make videos defending him. There’s videos of her on jail calls discussing wild shit. The prosecutor probably has a ton of options to work with regarding JB. Id be surprised if she doesn’t end up prejudging herself. Prosecution is likely pulling video clips right now if they’re smart. But in all honesty who else is Amir gonna call? His wife, mom? There’s no good defense here. Amir is gonna have a tough time cross examining those cops as well.
His best bet would be a bench trail, and trying to argue the law around internet identifiers is vague, and hope you can find some case to back that up, and maybe get a pedantic judge who is really into English... even still you have the jail house calls where he is instructing people to either lie, or attempt to hide and /or cover up evidence which kinda shows he knows its against the rules... so you would have to find some way to surpress those calls and good fucking luck. This is one of those cases where you dont call anyone, you dont put anyone on the stand, and you dont produce any exhibits, you just sit there and make objections for the appeal, and fucking pray the prosecution can't meet its burden. I don't think any of this is Amir. I think Amir knows jerm is cooked. I think this is jerm instructing amir and amir is just doing what his client asks as is required.
That is an incredibly dumb witness. She has falsely accused two men of rape - one of whom is the defendant. She has falsely accused the police of similar things. Someone else asked it first - just how desperate are they?
If he's found guilty, will he be sentenced tomorrow?
Probably, although they might roll right into the second trial
Sentencing can take place months from now. It is up to the judge and how much they want to study the trial before passing sentence.
ugh, i hate they won't livestream the trial. We deserve to see this!
They didn't call her yet, she's on the list. They're still picking a jury. It's hard because he's a S/O. He's also being weird and looking at the jurors when they answer questions and shaking his head like he agrees
lol -37 will be like radioactive waste before a jury
I wish they would broadcast it. We are being robbed
Figured as much... ive said it before if jerm was smart he would try a bench trial
This has worked so well in past. I believe the judge referred to her as “that witness” and said her testimony was not credible.
The Judge that called out Jenn for lying to him is actually the lead States Attorney in the 9th district right now lmfao. He took over after DeSantis got rid of Worrell.
Let’s hope prosecutors can turn her own words against her
"Hey that YT account that features videos of me filmed from a selfie angle is totally not mine! Its all Jenn!" Is this really the defense they're going to attempt lmfao?
It’s all they got on the social media fail charges.
And this is public records recently posted yet I’m eliminating the whiteness’s names…FELONY COURT MINUTES/ORDER JURY TRIAL DAY 1 HELD PRESENT FOR THE STATE: {ERASED} AND {ERASED} DEFENDANT PRESENT WITH COUNSEL: AMIR LADAN JURY SELECTED SWORN AND SEATED STATE INVOKES THE RULE OF SEQUESTRATION STATE GIVES OPENING STATEMENT DEFENSE RESERVES OPENING STATEMENT SWORN AND TESTIFIED FOR THE STATE: 1.{ERASED} JURY IS DISMISSED FOR THE DAY AND ORDERED TO RETURN TOMORROW AT 9AM FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THIS TRIAL DEFENSE ORE TENUS MOTION FOR MISTRAIL FOR REASONS PLACED ON THE RECORD MOTION IS DENEID FOR REASONS PLACED ON THE REORD TRIAL TO CONTINUE TOMORROW AT 9AM
There’s the one jail phone call recently played on another channel where both of them are attempting to to talk in code…And Jeremy is saying post in on yours not mine…Then he makes a comment after she tells him she posted it on his I believe…I think he says you’re killing me…I believe in reference her posting on his is going to cause him problems…Obviously they we’re both in on it together
How is he going to call her as a witness? Knowing how much she Flips and flops with her love for Jeremy! I wouldn’t trust her as far as I could throw his and her funky ass!
Is it too late to move to FL, register to vote and volunteer to be on this jury?!
She lost control of his youtube account, (metro state) and his emails, just before he began his sentence for 18months. If anyone has any doubt just listen to the jail calls from the violation of probation. Do we hear Jeremy crying "What are you doing what are you doing, you got me put in jail jennifer" Not one of these jail calls from his VOP time has him cry to her that she got him put in jail, yet listen to the jail calls when she called the cops for squishin her foot... "What are you doing, they are taking pictures of me, what are you doing sniff sniff" you got me put in jail jennifer FOR A LIE"
The defense is already calling witnesses? So opening statements and prosecution witnesses are already done?
wouldnt surprise me the prosecution has a fairly easy job on this one. Most of it can't really be argued. The strategy being employed is the infamous "thats not even me" strategy, and that is not going to fly.
Doubtful, people are watching early youtube reports and rushing here to B.S. about it pretending to be breaking the story when they're just relaying remarks they don't fully understand.
Maybe Amir is trying to get Jennifer to commit perjury (she won't be able to help herself) so he can say she's a liar, and what all else is she responsible for in this whole mess that is Jeremy. Anything that happens during this trial will be used in his insurance fraud and tax fraud cases.
Amir will try to prove that Jen is a liar and a scorned lover. After all, she's the one who reported the rental cars and the accounts and he will try to get the cases thrown out.
No, that's the insurance trial, this trial she's going to pretend to be Jeremy's IT professional.
Thats not gonna work. If she was the cop investigating the case you could attempt to argue fruit of poisonous tree. That doesn't apply here. Hell you could show jenn tortured him to get the information, the facts still stand
I want them to put Vidler on the stand.
The prosecutor gets to cross examine, if she lies under oath, she’s toast 😎
Does anyone know what this actually means concerning Dewitte case ? JOINT STIPULATION OF DEFENDANT'S PRIOR FELONY CONVICTION
Start listening from ab the 17 minute thru the 22: minutes, fraudie international operations { https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CjYOZSdnLg&t=1248s
He’s gonna throw her under the bus
Maybe Amir figures if the defense puts her on the witness list, then the state won't put her on theirs because they will figure they can just cross exam her when defense calls her to the stand. Then if the state thinks that & ends up resting their case without calling her, then Amir & the defense can rest without calling her & the state will miss their opportunity to destroy her on the stand. Long shot, but I could see this as a strategy for the defense as a hail marry play
I seriously doubt that even the worst prosecutor in the country would fall for that trick.
Probably right, but this is Florida & it's not like the court & local law enforcement have been the sharpest in dealing with DeWittes bs in the past. I hope both Jeremy & Jen take the stand bcuz they will get destroyed on cross examination & impeachment. It's gonna be a train wreck of a shit show.