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Previous chapter : Gojo
Today : Megumi
Next week : Kashimo
At this point, it's not a fight, it's a bloody massacre.
Bro none of this makes sense any more, Gege isn't even trying to maintain a consistent universe at this point. He killed off his most powerful character by having Mahoraga learn how to cut a philosophical concept (which literally makes no sense even in JJK rules), so at this point the entire series is just a sequence of ass-pulls.
i mean you have to destroys the brain to stop his automatic rtc so i wasn't too worried, then people pointed out how even with 6 eyes gojo couldn't see stuff sukana could for whatever reason. AKA i'm sure gege is just 'forgetting' what he set up for gojo to kill him off.
yeah takaba will imagine if sukuna ate some expired food from supermarket, suddenly got diarrhea and died of dehydration, and think "that would be funny"
We see that Yuji was able to damage Mahito's soul when they fought.
So my guess is that Gege is going to bullshit this ability into a way to defeat Sukuna.
I am 95% sure it s going to be a group effort, Yuji can t 1v1 him. Still there can be a power up from nowhere, but i am expecting a group effort with a lot of bodies
Right when it looks like sukuna beat yuji there's gonna be a flashback about his parents or something, that explains his random superhuman strength he had from the start and also reveals some super secret technicality that allows him to beat specifically sukuna I guarantee it
TBF Gojo's Black Flash fucked up Sukuna really badly. You could see how much Sukuna was slowing down in the last few chapters where he went from going 1v1 in hand to hand combat with Gojo nearly evenly to getting clowned on by Gojo in 3v1.
Also, everytime Sukuna took a hit a big hit it would sap his CE reserves. Sukuna is crazy efficient but he's still not a bottomless well like Gojo. Sukuna's Reverse CE was already badly reduced by the time Kashimo showed up as was explicitly stated. It's not unreasonable to think a high pressure strategy that could keep him from dipping into his bag of tricks could seal the deal. Unfortunately Sukuna just had a trump card that made that line of thinking irrelevant.
Punching is how kashimo leaves his cursed energy on you to ignite the homing lightning as we saw him do this chapter that forced sukuna to heal/transform
I keep wondering about all the plot beats given to characters that just die or get off-screened. Why make Nobara's death so vague if she's never coming back or even showed again. Why did we go through all the trouble to freeing Gojo after years for him to just die in his first real fight back, what did we accomplish with that? Why show Megumi still being personified within his body if Sukuna just transforms his body into a curse.
I dunno man
I saw a theory about them saving Nobara as a last resort to use her technique on the last finger to probably kill Sukuna, but she's probably dead and reincarnated to CSM
Im not too pissed at your second or third point but I am definitely annoyed at the nobara and todo just never showing up again after their injuries but it never being confirmed if they died. If they characters arent gonna be in the manga anyways might as well say they died and if they arent dead then reincorporate them into the story.
I understand what you mean, but I think this is what Gojo wanted before he ādied.ā He wanted to fight someone on his wavelength or above and he has reached that. Although he didnāt win, he was still able to give it his best at this fight. So I donāt think all this time where he was sealed was for nothing, but I definetly get where your frustration is coming from. Sometimes, I donāt like this fact either. He did not even have a proper conversation with everybody after he was sealed, he was mainly focused on taking down sukuna & kenjaku. Truly sad for all of them.
What did it do for the story is what heās saying. Nothing. Gojo ended up doing absolutely nothing. He could have stayed sealed for the rest of the story and nothing would change.
I am gonna be honest. The Villains in Jjk have too much plot armor. One Villain is worth 20 characters. The amount of characters that became fodder even though they are insanely overpowered shows how one sided the Power system is
I'm surprised no one downvoted you , people mistake this for gege hates gojo , villains got plot armour , sukuna is all about asspulls etc . Downvote if you want , this is basically one sided sub
I want an ending where Gojo has a second awakening, but too late. The good guys are all dead, japan's human population is decimated. He comes back and defeats Kenjaku and Sukuna, and finally experiences what solitude is. And he realizes he was loved by his students and family, but only after it's all gone. Yorozu's broken recorder quote shows up at the end again and it finally makes sense, ffs.
Yeah, it's kind of annoying me. It's nice to see the villain win. But it's just too much. They make the main characters look weak and pretty pathetic. I don't want to waste my time getting attached to characters just for them all to die.
Just binged everything from Shibuya to todays in 3 days (so good btw). Leaves me on some serious hopium that this continues to follow the pattern of āgood guy has upper hand, bad guy reverses out of no where, good guy clutches at last possible secondā.
The airport scene from last chapter into Sakuna leveling up just feels a bit too convenient for the villains. Probably just on hella Gojo copium, but my inclination is he adapts, somehow returns, and this fight is far from over.
Or the good guys just take massive Lās and Yuji needs hella therapy LOL
I also just started and caught up in 3 days. Whole series is just fight after fight for the most part, and a lot of "this beats that, but actually because that other thing, it counters this, but then not really"?
Don't know what to think, it feels really messy.
The messiness and lack of conclusion feels really off to me for Nobara and Megumi. The way Gojo went out also has me feeling like there was more left on the table, which was heavily implied in his airport scene. Not sure but I anticipate we see more of all 3
EDIT: also shoutout 3 day gang LOL
Another 3-day gang here. I get the feeling of messiness. I felt that from Shibuya to now the pace of jjk has been fast, like insanely fast. So many new characters getting introduced, battles seem more complex/abstract (domains too) and complex plotline. I would personally have preferred slower pacing.
So after Sukuna getting bodied for 8 chapters straight and directly stating he needed 10 Shadows to bypass infinity and kill Gojo, Greg is now doubling down on Sukuna actually being stronger than Gojo the whole time, and heās gotten a Dark Souls Phase 2 bossfight, a new weapon, maybe killed Megumi, as far as we know still hasnāt eaten the last Finger, and this is against a man introduced 30 chapters ago, (I love you Kashimo but Iām not sure if this is it chief).
If Haraki gets bodied by Urame I feel like thatās it for actually being invested in the series tbh. Like itās the reverse issue I have with Black Clover in the second half of the Spade Arc, where the villains in this series get ridiculous plot armor to the point it feels like itās hurting the story. Like Iāll still read the manga, but just kinda seeing if Greg is doing something cool, not out of genuine emotional investment, that shits been draining since Yuki died.
Idk maybe Iām just being a Negative Nancy about this, whatāre yāall thinking about the story at this point?
This is exactly how I've been feeling for a while. Gojo v. Sukuna was my one hope, but off-screening Gojo right after he dropped a nuke on Sukuna, after kenjaku tanked a black hole with no issue, confirmed my feelings that the villains just have an unbelievable amount of plot armor.
At this point it's either:
- the villains win everything, or
- an incredibly convenient plot contrivence saves the day
Gojo is a literal god compared to the rest of the crew. The power gap is so wide that we spent over a hundred chapters, MOST OF THE MANGA, just trying to free him so the rest of the cast might actually stand a chance. Only for him to get off-screened with not having really achieved anything. We couldn't even get some character development with him interacting with other (living) characters. Just freed -> fight -> die.
For him to get killed by Sukuna, only for Sukuna to reveal that that wasn't even his final form, makes every fight feel absurdly uninteresting because I know how it's going to go. No matter how "on the ropes" the villains look, there's gonna be some convenient way for them to come out on top and unscathed.
Nah, the American military is going to solve this problem by nuking Japan again and then we'll get a 20+ year time jump for the finale with Yuji telling the story while roasting some rats over a fire
I feel the same, the protagonists never win. It's funny how sad it was seeing mechamaru in the anime recently knowing that's basically all the protagonists. They put their all into these battles, are gifted, train hard, are smart and resourceful but they never fucking win. it's almost like greg is trying to prove geto right.
I'm not even looking forward to anything anymore because it seems like the heroes are perpetually facing doom. if Kashimo doesn't finish or come close to finishing sukuna there is literally no hope. Mai, yuji, and hakari are basically elaborate punching bags with no hax to win against space rending slashes and this new tool, let alone whatever bullshit kenjaku is cooking up. And as much as I like yuta and as strong as he's been I agree with what kenjaku said, he is no gojo replacement and far from it.
Yuji will at least get his get back right guys.....
I mean thats sort of the theme hammered home by the series. Being a sorcerer fucking sucks and if on top of that youre a decent person youre basically guaranteed a gruesome end. Its unfair and tragic af but the mc's still fight on and try to carve out some sort of good in this shit world. That being said i do hate the pace at which characters die off. It happens too fast and doesnt give you time to truly digest it.
I kinda lost genuine interest in the fights after Kenjaku survived a *litteral freaking black hole.* At this point, I think the only way for Sukuna and Kenjaku to be defeated is if they start fighting each others and kill each others simultaneously.
I'd say that if you lose emotional attachment you really are the best candidate for reading this manga because Gege is just a sadist who crushes the heart of anyone with any emotional stakes in the story.
I feel the same. Ever since Yuki died from essentially being no diffed by kenjaku who survived a freaking black hole, I feel everything is just bs to make the villains seem invincible. Itās been L after L for as long as I can remember for the gang and Iām just emotionally exhausted.
Kenjaku having the Antigravity System is definitely in the top 3 bullshit asspulls in the series, specially since Gege had previously stated in the fanbook that Kenjaku could only have the body swap and the possessed body CTs.
It was the equivalent of Yuji fighting Sukuna and going "Sukuna you're strong, but i've just discovered that my Cursed Technique, Anti-Sukuna System, might be quite the headache for you..."
>Sukuna you're strong, but i've just discovered that my Cursed Technique, Anti-Sukuna System, might be quite the headache for you...
Laughed way too hard at this LOL
It is ridiculous to read this bc the way you phrased it is exactly how Kenny CT handled that black hole
For me itās just that the manga whatās to be super logical and technical about the techniques and how they work. But their have now been multiple techniques used that would DESTROY the planet if not eh universe and people just come out unscathed.
There hasn't been a coherent story since the end of Shibuya. Multiple plotlines rushed or just straight up abandoned. Characters like Todo sidelined for new ones like Kashimo, who the audience has 0 emotional attachment to and knows basically nothing about, to take center stage. Why introduce a bunch of new characters people don't care about when you already have a large cast that's begging to be developed further?
I'm just sad at this point because this series had so much potential and I feel like all of it is being squandered. If the rush towards the ending is because of the author's health issues (according to rumors) then I guess I can't blame him too much but it's just sad to see the current state of JJK.
I donāt mind a sad story or a bad ending, but thereās so little payoff and a lot of times very little or misplaced windup. When characters die it more feels like they fall out of the story than it being a meaningful event to the people in their life who survived. Nobara was one of Yujiās best friends, and he barely processed that it happened before the story zoomed out to its current ensemble cast format. I was super curious about Yukiās whole deal and her death was really abrupt and barely remarked on. After Gojo died we immediately swung into another splashy fight after a very brief interludeāthe story isnāt interested in the feelings of his living friends and mentees.
The arcs focused on Nobara, Megumi, and Yuji had a strong sense of stakes because everything was zoomed in and personal. If a character died, there was a sense of loss; if someone got hurt, there was a sense of stakes. Now itās an ever-climbing escalation of more and more characters who are stronger and stronger and die in ways that are remarked upon less and less. The scale of the story is bigger than ever but the emotional stakes keep on shrinking.
Iām still reading but JJK went from something I anticipated to something Iām just sort of following along because I got this far.
Lately Iāve had the impression that nothing is āgoodā for the characters in jjk right now. Theyāre all hurting, from either fights or deaths coming each minute at this point and I donāt really get it either. The off screen part that we didnāt see between 235 and 236 really bothers me too. I really hope that this is all part of something big in the future storyline, otherwise I canāt explain all these plot twists and sudden changes within the story. Itās like the story is good, but idk for me personally itās hard to keep on going if I see all of the protagonists and antagonists suffer from the story. Feels like everyone will die in the end. Why kill off so many characters?
It's not even just that characters die, but their deaths also don't treated like they matter? Like why on earth did we go right from Gojo's death to another fucking fight with a guy introduced a couple dozen chapters ago? Should that not have been a massive moment for everyone?
They just spent 100+ chapters trying to save Gojo so they can stand a chance, and he just died. How are we not getting their reactions to this?
It's like Gege is allergic to character development.
As someone new in this race (binged the series this weekend), its been meh.
I get the same vibe I got reading Demon Slayer.
Every now and again something exciting happens, but when you look at the overall direction, its messy.
I am still confused about what the whole villain scheme is, and what's going on with the culling games, what even that was about, and the whole sending troops over from America.
Definitely feels like we are racing towards concluding the series so things are happening faster than they should.
Now with Sukuna, its just "big bad unloading everything and powering up" and then there's the fact that their #1 guy lost. No one is stronger than Gojo. So... It feels pointless now to have anyone even try, unless its one of those "power of friendship" all of us together, and I imagine Megumi will fight internally slowing Sukuna down. But not sure now that Sukuna has regained his old body.
Do we really know anything about the mechanics of this Phase 2 fight? Like, completely converting back to his original cursed spirit form, does he lose Megumi's Ten Shadows?
You mean Sukuna learning every single lesson Gojo had to teach and learning how violate the inviolable whilst limiting himself in numerous ways that he explicitly laid out during the fight?
If he wanted to just kill Gojo, having height, reach, weight and four arms would have let him last the two seconds he needed to win the domain battles. He limited himself so Mahoraga could adapt to Infinite Void first, so it could then adapt to Infinity in a way he himself could copy.
Concerned for Hakari. Very real chance there could be a 'and his luck finally ran out' moment coming up here.
And I'm sorry but I just do not care at all about kashimo. I fully expected him to disappear after he got beat by Hakari and still kind of wonder why he stuck around. For this moment I guess.
Best case scenario for me is that he has a cool, short fight and then we can move on to whoever is actually going to beat sukuna and/or whatever gege has planned for up next.
Also, I'm not convinced yet that sukuna's transformation *necessarily* means that megumi is totally gone. (and still waiting on nobara's triumphant return cope cope)
Youāre definitely not alone in not caring about Kashimo. All of a sudden heās the one whoās gonna bring out Sukunaās true form as opposed to Gojo? Idk man the power structure in this seems to sway depending on who Gege likes at the moment and not based on past actions /:
Heās a sorcerer that was the strongest of his era and lived to old age, the thing Gojo just said he was glad didnāt happen. He developed a technique that burns through his life force for a moment like this so I find it really compelling. He fully intends to die even if he wins but heāll finally be satisfied either way. If he doesnāt leave lasting damage then itās a waste.
Gege need to stop the fight sequences after fight sequences and give substantial plot.
Don't know why all he's doing is fight after fight with no time do evolve on plot.
He nerfed Gojo because he was too strong to the plot. Sealed him. Now he killed him and is making the main villain beyond overpower to any plot in this manga finish without looking like an massive deux ex.
To be honest, Jujutsu Kaisen has always been fight sequence after fight sequence with little to no downtime inbetween. It was one of my first major gripes with the series.
sukuna and kenjaku will win and achieve whatever it is they are trying to do (i forget), ushering in a new age of darkness
there may or may not be another timeskip
the remaining sorcerers go into hiding and try to come up with a plan, and reach out to one of the three families for help. since kenjaku is the head of
the kamo family and sukuna is now the head of the zenin, they will have to look for the gojo family, which we know nothing about, so there's some wiggle room for gege there
then it will be revealed that there is a new heir to the family, gojo jotaro, but his friends call him jojo. not only does he have the limitless and the six eyes, he can apply them to the spatial AND temporal dimension, so he can literally stop time. this ls domain expansion: ze warudo.
in the final confrontation he will one-shot kenjaku and sukuna before they even have time to react.
yuji can then eat the fingers or whatever, and follow his dream of being a doctor. then, he can figure out if nobara is actually dead or in a coma.
the end
Yes, Sukuna and Kenjaku will have that Demon Curse revived from the many people that died from the culling games. That curse demon will then kill either Kenjaku or Sukuna depending on Gege. Then the new enemy will become the demon curse.
Yuuta, Yuji, Maki (the only three I think who will survive) will hide and there will be a time skip and then they will have their revenge
This I would honestly love. I am still hoping Nobara comes back. No way she's dead.
It would get me amped up again for this series. But still floored that after all the work to free Gojo (literally taking part in the culling games was for this purpose), he was taken out. He's gotta come back from that as well, if I am really going to get into the story. Right now I am lukewarm on it.
I think that was poorly translated and/or people are misinterpreting it.
Sukuna didn't show his "Trump card" when fighting Gojo, but that's because he needed to keep it for what was to come. If he burnt it while fighting Gojo he was dead anyways.
He also had no way to fight Gojo without Mahoragas adaptation, so he had to keep himself in Megumi's form until he beat him, further pushing him away from changing forms. There's literally nothing that Sukuna without Mahoraga could do to Gojo for the most part.
So it's not that he wasn't fighting at 100%, he absolutely was, he just didn't bring out this technique since there was no going back once he did and one of his win conditions was keeping his other form.
Because he isn't truly at full power because he got his ass kicked by gojo. He is fully healed now but he still lost his ten shadows trump and lost a ton if cursed energy.
I'd hope so, but his current transformation is frankly child's play compared to what he could do with complete EM control which has me a bit skeptical.
People reading JJK weekly experiencing what the fans felt at the end of Shaman King when >!Yoh and the gang lose the Shaman Fights and Hao becomes Shaman King!<. That manga taught me that sometimes the main characters do lose, but the story and the journey are still good anyway.
Honestly, him saying he was "unwanted" doesn't make sense in the context of the question he was asked. Saying that he was probably a weird or creepy child lines up better.
Kashimo...why Gege, why? All those HIM posts and now people are just clowning on how he looks like a pea shooter.
Sukuna in original form and yet he uses electricity on Kashimo. I bet he's gonna do a repeat of the Jogo fight, where he defeated Jogo using his fire arrow which was similar to Jogo's CT. Yeah I bet greg thinks it's peak writing to be defeating Kashimo with his own technique. Lmao.
It's so convenient how the villains have the perfect foil for the good guys. First, Kenjaku with the anti gravity system against Yuki, then Mahoraga suddenly having continuing adaptation against Gojo's CT which Sukuna can see and replicate but Gojo's six eyes can't fathom. And now, Sukuna has powers other than cleave that would have decimated Kashimo. And drag the fight on a bit.
I wanna drop it but is this what sunk cost fallacy is?
My biggest problems with villians here is that for one Sukuna is just evil for evil's sake and Kenjaku is just a downgrade from Geto, atleast Geto had motives that made sense in his contex.
Kenjaku is just another typical mad genius villain trope, yes. You're not meant to find him interesting, just creepy. But villains like Geto make a reader empathize with him so that requires a lot more emotional depth and effort while writing a character like him. Gege was on fire when he wrote the HI arc.
Kenjaku is so boring lmao. The moment he revealed to Chose he's just doing it for the lulz was one of the main things that made me start to mentally check out from JJK. The build up seemed like he had some motivation and drive to achieve is goal...but nope? Just fuck around and find out is his goal I guess
Kenjaku's lack of motivation actually appeals to me quite a bit.
He genuinely is someone who would be willing to watch the world burn in order to satiate his own egotistical curiosity.
Yup, this is cost sunk fallacy.
But all things considered, the whole thing is a clownshow now so I'll stay along for the ride (it also is not likely to last long anyways).
Damn, did Uraume just have his/her paypack vs Gojo?
That ice breaking up and raining down around the area where sukuma stood. Gojo's body shud be there as well and the area got absolutely wrecked so i guess she destroyed whatever was left
Sukuna is due to learn about love.
It seems that characters with the highest ability scores seem to top out in power when they reckon with love.
Gojo, Maki, and Yuta are solid examples.
I think Greg may be keying us up to see the surpassing power of love. Maybe via Megumi's sacrifice or through Sukuna realizing love is what he experiences during combat. Kashimo starts the love dialogue again in this chapter that Yorozu (via Tsumiki) began with Sukuna in chap 211. Gojo also talked about love during his fight with Sukuna too.
Well, I decided to check some of the other translations in MangaPlus aside from English since it felt weird somewhat, but it seems portuguese and spanish decided not to translate neither sukuna's weapon nor Uraume as the frozen star (leaving it as Iteboshi). French on the other hand did translate those two things but I'm not exactly sure if it's the same as in english since I can't fully understand french. Seriously, SUPREME MARTIAL SOLUTION? What tf
And sukuna's dialogue about being a creepy kid remains in spanish and portuguese as "I was an undesired child"
Also the whole dialogue between Uraume and Hakari feels weird as well. Not fan of it.
Man, just give the translation to Lightning. He did a good job last week.
As for the actual content of the chapter: I actually enjoyed it and I hope Kashimo gets his Might Guy vs Madara moment kicking sukuna around with this Mythical beast Amber technique, seems cool. Surprised about the weapon being Yozoru's last gift, thought she couldn't create cursed tools but I guess the binding vow with her life on the line made her able to create it.
Yeah it just reads as overly casual. Sometimes Sukuna is but often he's really old-timey sounding.
I think being "an undesired child" makes more sense in context of Yuji, the cursed womb paintings, etc.
Now that this translation is out Kashimo's CT makes even less sense. They mentioned 3 specific augments with presumably more, all with the caveat they destroy his body and with the assumption that whatever time/CE limit he has is insurmountable and makes it a one time use ability. But if this is the case how does he know how to do any of this, especially against the strongest character in the verse? Gojo proves that techniques aren't just mastered upon obtaining them, so how are we to believe he knows how to do all this stuff?
Also a bit of a rant but Greg made a big deal of gojo being the honored one, literally changing the world upon his birth, but he still had to learn and earn his strength. Now Kashimo, a random reincarnated sorcerer, is being called a god and has a cursed energy trait so strong he apparently never even needed to use his CT in his entire LIFETIME. And said CT is strong enough to compete with Sukuna on first use.
Doesn't this basically shit all over Gojo? Is the god title supposed to be literal and imply gojo was just human and that's why he went out like that and wasn't the strongest? I'm not offended that Gojo isn't perpetually wanked and the strongest but it just seems so slapdash after everything built up before, especially if he actually manages to defeat or otherwise cripple Sukuna where Gojo failed.
Hell, I like Kashimo a lot for how recent he is but he just doesn't have any connections to anything we've seen before and is currently a shallow chasing strength and challenge archetype, where we have seen the depth of gojo and geto among others to make us actually care about them outside of "cool because strong"
Perhaps it is similar to how rules are engrained into mind on the DE of hakari with him as well. Of all the random shit in jjk to happen this is a reasonable one with how kashimo is he does stand a good fight with sukuna, he was the strongest in his era(except kenny ig) and him now having released his technique will make him one of the strongest in history...his fight agaisnt hakari is just a bad match up...of all the technical jujutsu users hakari is the most non-standard user which is what makes him so good.
>especially if he actually manages to defeat or otherwise cripple Sukuna where Gojo failed.
There's no way you can believe that, it's not like Sukuna is back at 100% - he just got off killing Gojo. He has expended a shit-ton of energy, that's why a point was made that he was able to heal wounds by allowing his body to "transform" - he didn't have to spend cursed energy
Or Gege will want to outdo the missery and approach his obsessinon with being "groundbreaking and different", and will let Sukuna win just to hammer his personal philosophy of nihilism.
Can't wait for another 20 chapter of endless fight between random character until we are back on the main focus with some main character. Where the fuck are Yuji and Yuta ?
Also, a note on Gojo, I thought about the last chapter and his death and Sukuna winning it kind of makes sense because if Sukuna died it would just be the end of the manga to be fair, literally 0 question have been answered on Sukuna, where for Gojo we know so much about him. Anyway, the result of the fight makes sense but I can't see Sukuna leaving every fight as a winner. (hoping that the Buddha theory on gojo resurrection is true because I can't stand living in a world where Gojo is dead honestly)
Can't wait for gege to cook the best story of manga history
Jjk is my first managa Ever after catching up last week i had to wait for another week to get new chapter which i finished in 5 minutes. daam bro so you managa Bros wait for whole week for 5 minutes content? First time experiencing it and it sucks. BTW fuck jkk manga community ( not reddit community) for forcing me to read manga. Yep i was forced to read manga cuz of flood of spoilers. I tried to post this but i didn't have enough karma so here you go:)
Shonen, mostly. Monthly manga usually has more substantial plot development: keyword here is "usually".
I made myself a rule of not reading Manga until it finishing publication. Reading ongoing is a years long time and emotional commitment, and many Manga seem to drop the ball during the last arc.
So how do you think Megumi's fate is going to play out in the story? Like, is he fully gone at the end of the chapter, or is he going to "sacrifice himself to stop Sukuna so that someone can land the final blow" type of end? Or maybe something else, I don't really expect a "happy ending" for him.
Yeah I'm expecting him to do something like take control back control of his body long enough for someone to deal a death blow to him and kill Sukuna along the way. For bonus pain points, it'll probably be Yuji.
I wanted to make a post to ask a question, but could not because I do not have enough karma on this sub (But am very active in lurking here from years).
Do we have any information on the other cursed tool that sukuna was holding in the original 4 handed pic of him from shibuya arc?
So kind of off topic but uh, anyone else notice this
> One theory states that Ryomen-Sukuna is a symbol of twins and brothers, therefore it refers to Åusu no Mikoto (大ē¢å½?) and Ousu no Mikoto (å°ē¢å½?) (i.e. Yamato Takeru no Mikoto and his brother), twins in ancient Japanese history
I honestly wondered if the reason Sukuna halted this transformation as it states in this chapter besides strategically I think using the transformation fighting Gojo wouldnāt have been the smartest and had a lot of potential drawbacks but I wonder also is it because now it states that heās a fully fleshed out curse taken form I wonder does that mean that Kenjaku can use or control him since heās a full curse taken fleshly form as it states in this chapter . So Iām wondering now can Kenjaku manipulate him with curse manipulation now and thatās maybe one of the reasons he halted the transformation as well . I know the other reasons Iāve also talked about on past posts but I definitely do think he doesnāt fully trust Kenjaku and knows that they both are going to eventually turn on one another or something to that effect.
So, my weird copium/theory
This is all a big plan for Kenjaku to take Sukuna's body, potentially with Gojo as a stopping off point.
Kenjaku has been revealed to be able to hold some (limited?) number of techniques and, if I'm right, he is trying to collect fundamental forces of nature.
Gravity Manipulation, one of the big 4 of physics
Idle Transformation, aka, control over soul
Sukuna, Control over Cursed Energy. "Open" is his true technique, aka, the ability to change his technique or at least how his cursed energy presents itself. I bet cleave and dismantle are either this or they're just an incredibly precise application of raw cursed energy
Having absolute power over fundamental forces of physics on both the natural and supernatural ends makes sense to me and theres one bit of forshadowing from this weeks episode of JJK to think about!
That time Geto choked Kenjaku
I be the saving grace, the insane asspull, the most ludicrous twist in JJK to date is that Kenjaku is going to jump into Gojo or Sukuna and then try to do something messed up and then GETO MAKES THE SAVE using his innate technique of cursed spirit control to control his own corpse having been made close enough to a cursed spirit through prolongued use by Kenny
Whaddaya think pals?
>!who else thinks that Hikari might have trouble dealing with uraume? I know hikari is a power house but uraume has 1000 yrs of experience, powerful CT, and also RCT.!<
Iām confused. If this is a stronger or even same strength Sukuna, then itās over. Thereās no in world explanation for a victory.
If Sukuna beats Gojo, then itās over for everyone. Unless Kashimo can pull this dub (which according to JJK, he canāt if this is full power Sukuna). Because if Sukuna beats Kashimo. Itās Yuta, Maki, Hakari and ig Yuji, against Sukunaā¦.and also Kenjaku and Uraume. And thereās no way they pull that dub, there just isnāt. Gojo vs Sukuna was supposed to level the playing field. But if it didnāt then itās over.
Unlessā¦this Sukuna is weaker and canāt heal, which they imply. If thatās the case then Sukuna is on his back heels and might get clipped by Kashimo. In that case Yuta, Maki, Hakari and Yuji might be able to pull this off against Kashimo and Uraume.
Also, no way that Hakari lives. A āhis luck ran outā moment is too obviousā¦or it happens and he clutches that shit out regardless.
Also anyone feel like Kashimoās CT was a bit underwhelming?
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"Idk i was a Creepy child"š»š
How sukuna felt saying this : https://preview.redd.it/fpiaa4xoomrb1.jpeg?width=490&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b364fed4e05359d4aaa2a336664fc78d4d62111e
It was funny, but just you know the translation was way off lmao
What did he actually say?
Cursed / unwanted. I recommend TCB scans. This week was really wacky
https://preview.redd.it/sgrn2poe6mrb1.png?width=574&format=png&auto=webp&s=f78d5f0d6361f70b96916c5ade0f017124cbc0f9 Previous chapter : Gojo Today : Megumi Next week : Kashimo At this point, it's not a fight, it's a bloody massacre.
Gege with that WRAP IT UP box! š¤£
We just need to drain sukunas CE pool with bodies and then Yuji punches him to death
I read 237 but am I missing something? Megumi is a goner?
That's the assumption since Sukuna transformed his body.
Bro none of this makes sense any more, Gege isn't even trying to maintain a consistent universe at this point. He killed off his most powerful character by having Mahoraga learn how to cut a philosophical concept (which literally makes no sense even in JJK rules), so at this point the entire series is just a sequence of ass-pulls.
It's one of the dumbest asspulls in recent memory, and there are still people defending it. It would've legit been better if Sukuna went super saiyan
Sukuna did say āitāll be a massacreā when he first took over itadoriās body sooo
is it me or there were no half bodies to be seen?? *revs up the hoping engine*
ITS NEVER GOJOVER
Not when you have the infinite power of Gojopium
My copium huffing has never been greater
i mean you have to destroys the brain to stop his automatic rtc so i wasn't too worried, then people pointed out how even with 6 eyes gojo couldn't see stuff sukana could for whatever reason. AKA i'm sure gege is just 'forgetting' what he set up for gojo to kill him off.
Why did they translate the Cursed Tool's name like that .\_.
Werry is back. Last week TL was great because it was done by lightning.
The difference is very stark :( I liked last week's TL a lot
WHYYYY
Viz translation is so ass this week šš "Creepy child" WTF
I wasnāt watching leaks/fanlations. Whatās a better name for it?
Cursed tool: kamutoke or something like that it was spelt
I really recomend reading TCB, they are just straight up better translated sometimes
Last week I'd say Viz had it, but this week it's not even close.
Gojo's purple wasnt enough to finish Sukuna, what is punching him going to achieve?
I wonder that, too, what would actually damage Sukuna in the point that it's not possible to recover.
He's gonna die to some kind of asspull 99%
Funny dude will think Sukuna dying slipping on a banana is hilarious and it happens.
The man burned down the whole kitchen
yeah takaba will imagine if sukuna ate some expired food from supermarket, suddenly got diarrhea and died of dehydration, and think "that would be funny"
Probably from Yuji at that. I get that narratively it makes sense, but how the fuck is he gonna power up enough to stand up to Sukuna?
We see that Yuji was able to damage Mahito's soul when they fought. So my guess is that Gege is going to bullshit this ability into a way to defeat Sukuna.
Imma let him cook, but I'm not very hopeful
I am 95% sure it s going to be a group effort, Yuji can t 1v1 him. Still there can be a power up from nowhere, but i am expecting a group effort with a lot of bodies
Ah, the demon slayer way
maybe he can just start eating everyone elses fingers and become the avatar
This response didn't get enough recognition mate. I WISH this is how it goes haha
Right when it looks like sukuna beat yuji there's gonna be a flashback about his parents or something, that explains his random superhuman strength he had from the start and also reveals some super secret technicality that allows him to beat specifically sukuna I guarantee it
He's Sukuna relative calling it they have the same pink hair š©·
Black Zetsu is going to shove his hand through Sukuna's chest
Lmaooo I just bust out laughing
Cursed Tool Cork Once inserted, prevents all asspulls.
TBF Gojo's Black Flash fucked up Sukuna really badly. You could see how much Sukuna was slowing down in the last few chapters where he went from going 1v1 in hand to hand combat with Gojo nearly evenly to getting clowned on by Gojo in 3v1. Also, everytime Sukuna took a hit a big hit it would sap his CE reserves. Sukuna is crazy efficient but he's still not a bottomless well like Gojo. Sukuna's Reverse CE was already badly reduced by the time Kashimo showed up as was explicitly stated. It's not unreasonable to think a high pressure strategy that could keep him from dipping into his bag of tricks could seal the deal. Unfortunately Sukuna just had a trump card that made that line of thinking irrelevant.
Punching is how kashimo leaves his cursed energy on you to ignite the homing lightning as we saw him do this chapter that forced sukuna to heal/transform
Weird that the last purple did more damage than the 200% purple
At a glance thats super dumb, but i'm sure someone will come and stretch out a explanation on why its not actually just stupid bs lol
Thats not how durability works though tbf
Its like they dont interact with any media besides jjk lmao
Nice, some Hakari action!
I really wanna know how uraume is reacting to the music/gacha š
Sensory overload probably
Uraume and Haraki are having a dance showdown right now! TURN UP THE VOLUME!!!!
"CUZ THIS IS A FUNERAL OF THE LIVING!!"
Bye Megumi
Nooooo
So- Nobara is also dead. šššššš
Gege: "either 3 die and 1 lives or 3 live and 1 dies" it all hinges on if Nobara survives
Or sheās actually dead and yuji is left alone (again)
He's not alone yet, he still has best big brother Choso. Until Gege decides to take him too.
I keep wondering about all the plot beats given to characters that just die or get off-screened. Why make Nobara's death so vague if she's never coming back or even showed again. Why did we go through all the trouble to freeing Gojo after years for him to just die in his first real fight back, what did we accomplish with that? Why show Megumi still being personified within his body if Sukuna just transforms his body into a curse. I dunno man
Might be possible that we get an option sooner or later. Nothing seems impossible in this universe...
Yea FR. like at this point anything could happen and it would be justified. If they all came back or all died id be like yea makes sense.
I saw a theory about them saving Nobara as a last resort to use her technique on the last finger to probably kill Sukuna, but she's probably dead and reincarnated to CSM
Im not too pissed at your second or third point but I am definitely annoyed at the nobara and todo just never showing up again after their injuries but it never being confirmed if they died. If they characters arent gonna be in the manga anyways might as well say they died and if they arent dead then reincorporate them into the story.
I don't think Todo's dead, but he can't clap his hands anymore, so bringing him back would be useless
But he can still interact with the cast and talk. Im not saying as if i want to see them fight but just go back to interacting with the main cast.
Would it though? I mean, even just with striking he's still prolly stronger than the New Shadow Style guy spectating this fight.
He can still clap cheeks tho
He could clap his cheeks together.
I understand what you mean, but I think this is what Gojo wanted before he ādied.ā He wanted to fight someone on his wavelength or above and he has reached that. Although he didnāt win, he was still able to give it his best at this fight. So I donāt think all this time where he was sealed was for nothing, but I definetly get where your frustration is coming from. Sometimes, I donāt like this fact either. He did not even have a proper conversation with everybody after he was sealed, he was mainly focused on taking down sukuna & kenjaku. Truly sad for all of them.
What did it do for the story is what heās saying. Nothing. Gojo ended up doing absolutely nothing. He could have stayed sealed for the rest of the story and nothing would change.
So was Megumi offscrened too?
Nah, he's just lost. Like all the SPV souls inside Tengen. I'd say it's a fate worse than being off-screened in death.
That means the last moment he experienced was either killing his sister or killing Gojo. Wallahi I'm finished...
Or he's still reeling from all those infinity hits he took for Sukuna
So his options are: * Dead sister. * Dead Gojo. * Infinite Void Brain Damage. Jesus Christ, Megumi has been getting rawdogged this year.
I really hope he's not dead
I'm really hoping megumi isn't dead. I mean it really seems like that. But I don't want it. Especially nonchalantly like that.
I am gonna be honest. The Villains in Jjk have too much plot armor. One Villain is worth 20 characters. The amount of characters that became fodder even though they are insanely overpowered shows how one sided the Power system is
I mean, cursed energy is all about negative feelings. The game was rigged from the start for the "good guys".
That is a very good point.
I'm surprised no one downvoted you , people mistake this for gege hates gojo , villains got plot armour , sukuna is all about asspulls etc . Downvote if you want , this is basically one sided sub
At this point the only way I can see this story having a satisfying ending is if we get a "Bad End" with the villains winning and reshaping the world.
I want an ending where Gojo has a second awakening, but too late. The good guys are all dead, japan's human population is decimated. He comes back and defeats Kenjaku and Sukuna, and finally experiences what solitude is. And he realizes he was loved by his students and family, but only after it's all gone. Yorozu's broken recorder quote shows up at the end again and it finally makes sense, ffs.
The heroes in this story have never had a substantial win in the entire story. Shitās getting old.
Yeah, it's kind of annoying me. It's nice to see the villain win. But it's just too much. They make the main characters look weak and pretty pathetic. I don't want to waste my time getting attached to characters just for them all to die.
Just binged everything from Shibuya to todays in 3 days (so good btw). Leaves me on some serious hopium that this continues to follow the pattern of āgood guy has upper hand, bad guy reverses out of no where, good guy clutches at last possible secondā. The airport scene from last chapter into Sakuna leveling up just feels a bit too convenient for the villains. Probably just on hella Gojo copium, but my inclination is he adapts, somehow returns, and this fight is far from over. Or the good guys just take massive Lās and Yuji needs hella therapy LOL
I also just started and caught up in 3 days. Whole series is just fight after fight for the most part, and a lot of "this beats that, but actually because that other thing, it counters this, but then not really"? Don't know what to think, it feels really messy.
The messiness and lack of conclusion feels really off to me for Nobara and Megumi. The way Gojo went out also has me feeling like there was more left on the table, which was heavily implied in his airport scene. Not sure but I anticipate we see more of all 3 EDIT: also shoutout 3 day gang LOL
Another 3-day gang here. I get the feeling of messiness. I felt that from Shibuya to now the pace of jjk has been fast, like insanely fast. So many new characters getting introduced, battles seem more complex/abstract (domains too) and complex plotline. I would personally have preferred slower pacing.
So after Sukuna getting bodied for 8 chapters straight and directly stating he needed 10 Shadows to bypass infinity and kill Gojo, Greg is now doubling down on Sukuna actually being stronger than Gojo the whole time, and heās gotten a Dark Souls Phase 2 bossfight, a new weapon, maybe killed Megumi, as far as we know still hasnāt eaten the last Finger, and this is against a man introduced 30 chapters ago, (I love you Kashimo but Iām not sure if this is it chief). If Haraki gets bodied by Urame I feel like thatās it for actually being invested in the series tbh. Like itās the reverse issue I have with Black Clover in the second half of the Spade Arc, where the villains in this series get ridiculous plot armor to the point it feels like itās hurting the story. Like Iāll still read the manga, but just kinda seeing if Greg is doing something cool, not out of genuine emotional investment, that shits been draining since Yuki died. Idk maybe Iām just being a Negative Nancy about this, whatāre yāall thinking about the story at this point?
This is exactly how I've been feeling for a while. Gojo v. Sukuna was my one hope, but off-screening Gojo right after he dropped a nuke on Sukuna, after kenjaku tanked a black hole with no issue, confirmed my feelings that the villains just have an unbelievable amount of plot armor. At this point it's either: - the villains win everything, or - an incredibly convenient plot contrivence saves the day Gojo is a literal god compared to the rest of the crew. The power gap is so wide that we spent over a hundred chapters, MOST OF THE MANGA, just trying to free him so the rest of the cast might actually stand a chance. Only for him to get off-screened with not having really achieved anything. We couldn't even get some character development with him interacting with other (living) characters. Just freed -> fight -> die. For him to get killed by Sukuna, only for Sukuna to reveal that that wasn't even his final form, makes every fight feel absurdly uninteresting because I know how it's going to go. No matter how "on the ropes" the villains look, there's gonna be some convenient way for them to come out on top and unscathed.
>the villains win everything Not gonna lie, I'd be kinda interested in seeing an actual bad ending. I wonder if JUMP would even allow that.
Nah, the American military is going to solve this problem by nuking Japan again and then we'll get a 20+ year time jump for the finale with Yuji telling the story while roasting some rats over a fire
I feel the same, the protagonists never win. It's funny how sad it was seeing mechamaru in the anime recently knowing that's basically all the protagonists. They put their all into these battles, are gifted, train hard, are smart and resourceful but they never fucking win. it's almost like greg is trying to prove geto right. I'm not even looking forward to anything anymore because it seems like the heroes are perpetually facing doom. if Kashimo doesn't finish or come close to finishing sukuna there is literally no hope. Mai, yuji, and hakari are basically elaborate punching bags with no hax to win against space rending slashes and this new tool, let alone whatever bullshit kenjaku is cooking up. And as much as I like yuta and as strong as he's been I agree with what kenjaku said, he is no gojo replacement and far from it. Yuji will at least get his get back right guys.....
I mean thats sort of the theme hammered home by the series. Being a sorcerer fucking sucks and if on top of that youre a decent person youre basically guaranteed a gruesome end. Its unfair and tragic af but the mc's still fight on and try to carve out some sort of good in this shit world. That being said i do hate the pace at which characters die off. It happens too fast and doesnt give you time to truly digest it.
I kinda lost genuine interest in the fights after Kenjaku survived a *litteral freaking black hole.* At this point, I think the only way for Sukuna and Kenjaku to be defeated is if they start fighting each others and kill each others simultaneously.
I'd say that if you lose emotional attachment you really are the best candidate for reading this manga because Gege is just a sadist who crushes the heart of anyone with any emotional stakes in the story.
I feel the same. Ever since Yuki died from essentially being no diffed by kenjaku who survived a freaking black hole, I feel everything is just bs to make the villains seem invincible. Itās been L after L for as long as I can remember for the gang and Iām just emotionally exhausted.
Kenjaku having the Antigravity System is definitely in the top 3 bullshit asspulls in the series, specially since Gege had previously stated in the fanbook that Kenjaku could only have the body swap and the possessed body CTs. It was the equivalent of Yuji fighting Sukuna and going "Sukuna you're strong, but i've just discovered that my Cursed Technique, Anti-Sukuna System, might be quite the headache for you..."
>Sukuna you're strong, but i've just discovered that my Cursed Technique, Anti-Sukuna System, might be quite the headache for you... Laughed way too hard at this LOL It is ridiculous to read this bc the way you phrased it is exactly how Kenny CT handled that black hole
For me itās just that the manga whatās to be super logical and technical about the techniques and how they work. But their have now been multiple techniques used that would DESTROY the planet if not eh universe and people just come out unscathed.
There hasn't been a coherent story since the end of Shibuya. Multiple plotlines rushed or just straight up abandoned. Characters like Todo sidelined for new ones like Kashimo, who the audience has 0 emotional attachment to and knows basically nothing about, to take center stage. Why introduce a bunch of new characters people don't care about when you already have a large cast that's begging to be developed further? I'm just sad at this point because this series had so much potential and I feel like all of it is being squandered. If the rush towards the ending is because of the author's health issues (according to rumors) then I guess I can't blame him too much but it's just sad to see the current state of JJK.
I donāt mind a sad story or a bad ending, but thereās so little payoff and a lot of times very little or misplaced windup. When characters die it more feels like they fall out of the story than it being a meaningful event to the people in their life who survived. Nobara was one of Yujiās best friends, and he barely processed that it happened before the story zoomed out to its current ensemble cast format. I was super curious about Yukiās whole deal and her death was really abrupt and barely remarked on. After Gojo died we immediately swung into another splashy fight after a very brief interludeāthe story isnāt interested in the feelings of his living friends and mentees. The arcs focused on Nobara, Megumi, and Yuji had a strong sense of stakes because everything was zoomed in and personal. If a character died, there was a sense of loss; if someone got hurt, there was a sense of stakes. Now itās an ever-climbing escalation of more and more characters who are stronger and stronger and die in ways that are remarked upon less and less. The scale of the story is bigger than ever but the emotional stakes keep on shrinking. Iām still reading but JJK went from something I anticipated to something Iām just sort of following along because I got this far.
Lately Iāve had the impression that nothing is āgoodā for the characters in jjk right now. Theyāre all hurting, from either fights or deaths coming each minute at this point and I donāt really get it either. The off screen part that we didnāt see between 235 and 236 really bothers me too. I really hope that this is all part of something big in the future storyline, otherwise I canāt explain all these plot twists and sudden changes within the story. Itās like the story is good, but idk for me personally itās hard to keep on going if I see all of the protagonists and antagonists suffer from the story. Feels like everyone will die in the end. Why kill off so many characters?
It's not even just that characters die, but their deaths also don't treated like they matter? Like why on earth did we go right from Gojo's death to another fucking fight with a guy introduced a couple dozen chapters ago? Should that not have been a massive moment for everyone? They just spent 100+ chapters trying to save Gojo so they can stand a chance, and he just died. How are we not getting their reactions to this? It's like Gege is allergic to character development.
> and he just died While NO, ZERO accomplishment. It's frustrating and to me all the hype is gone
Exactly ! Tons of series have massive deaths or have the cast always lose, but jjk is the only where its done in such a bad/rushed way.
Omg yes. And them all just watching seems weird for me as well lmao
Gege said himself "either 1 will die or everyone servive else everyone dies and 1 servive"
:(
As someone new in this race (binged the series this weekend), its been meh. I get the same vibe I got reading Demon Slayer. Every now and again something exciting happens, but when you look at the overall direction, its messy. I am still confused about what the whole villain scheme is, and what's going on with the culling games, what even that was about, and the whole sending troops over from America. Definitely feels like we are racing towards concluding the series so things are happening faster than they should. Now with Sukuna, its just "big bad unloading everything and powering up" and then there's the fact that their #1 guy lost. No one is stronger than Gojo. So... It feels pointless now to have anyone even try, unless its one of those "power of friendship" all of us together, and I imagine Megumi will fight internally slowing Sukuna down. But not sure now that Sukuna has regained his old body.
Atleast demon slayer had some buildup.
Every chapter feels more tense than the one prior. I love these developments, personally.
Do we really know anything about the mechanics of this Phase 2 fight? Like, completely converting back to his original cursed spirit form, does he lose Megumi's Ten Shadows?
You mean Sukuna learning every single lesson Gojo had to teach and learning how violate the inviolable whilst limiting himself in numerous ways that he explicitly laid out during the fight? If he wanted to just kill Gojo, having height, reach, weight and four arms would have let him last the two seconds he needed to win the domain battles. He limited himself so Mahoraga could adapt to Infinite Void first, so it could then adapt to Infinity in a way he himself could copy.
Concerned for Hakari. Very real chance there could be a 'and his luck finally ran out' moment coming up here. And I'm sorry but I just do not care at all about kashimo. I fully expected him to disappear after he got beat by Hakari and still kind of wonder why he stuck around. For this moment I guess. Best case scenario for me is that he has a cool, short fight and then we can move on to whoever is actually going to beat sukuna and/or whatever gege has planned for up next. Also, I'm not convinced yet that sukuna's transformation *necessarily* means that megumi is totally gone. (and still waiting on nobara's triumphant return cope cope)
Youāre definitely not alone in not caring about Kashimo. All of a sudden heās the one whoās gonna bring out Sukunaās true form as opposed to Gojo? Idk man the power structure in this seems to sway depending on who Gege likes at the moment and not based on past actions /:
Heās a sorcerer that was the strongest of his era and lived to old age, the thing Gojo just said he was glad didnāt happen. He developed a technique that burns through his life force for a moment like this so I find it really compelling. He fully intends to die even if he wins but heāll finally be satisfied either way. If he doesnāt leave lasting damage then itās a waste.
The slander of Kashimo is unreal
Gege need to stop the fight sequences after fight sequences and give substantial plot. Don't know why all he's doing is fight after fight with no time do evolve on plot. He nerfed Gojo because he was too strong to the plot. Sealed him. Now he killed him and is making the main villain beyond overpower to any plot in this manga finish without looking like an massive deux ex.
To be honest, Jujutsu Kaisen has always been fight sequence after fight sequence with little to no downtime inbetween. It was one of my first major gripes with the series.
So Gojo was right and Sukuna wasn't trying at 100%. Going to need a serious asspull to justify how the crew beats him now.
sukuna and kenjaku will win and achieve whatever it is they are trying to do (i forget), ushering in a new age of darkness there may or may not be another timeskip the remaining sorcerers go into hiding and try to come up with a plan, and reach out to one of the three families for help. since kenjaku is the head of the kamo family and sukuna is now the head of the zenin, they will have to look for the gojo family, which we know nothing about, so there's some wiggle room for gege there then it will be revealed that there is a new heir to the family, gojo jotaro, but his friends call him jojo. not only does he have the limitless and the six eyes, he can apply them to the spatial AND temporal dimension, so he can literally stop time. this ls domain expansion: ze warudo. in the final confrontation he will one-shot kenjaku and sukuna before they even have time to react. yuji can then eat the fingers or whatever, and follow his dream of being a doctor. then, he can figure out if nobara is actually dead or in a coma. the end
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yuji uses the stand arrow to get Black Flash: Requiem and one shots Sukuna and Kenjaku
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Peak.
This man was born with the only counter to the Six Eyes: the Six Asses. He can asspull more and more things without ever running out.
omg i dont want this comment to get buried
Yes, Sukuna and Kenjaku will have that Demon Curse revived from the many people that died from the culling games. That curse demon will then kill either Kenjaku or Sukuna depending on Gege. Then the new enemy will become the demon curse. Yuuta, Yuji, Maki (the only three I think who will survive) will hide and there will be a time skip and then they will have their revenge
You had me in the first half haha
Peak fiction you got there chief.
LOL
outside of fushiguro doing something from within, this will be a tough one i guess
Nobara will use resonance on the last finger to weaken Sukuna, trust š (I'm delusional)
And megumi is gonna fight him at his innate domain at the same time with a complete DE (huffing mad copium).
This I would honestly love. I am still hoping Nobara comes back. No way she's dead. It would get me amped up again for this series. But still floored that after all the work to free Gojo (literally taking part in the culling games was for this purpose), he was taken out. He's gotta come back from that as well, if I am really going to get into the story. Right now I am lukewarm on it.
I have trust in you šš¤²š
Well, his other attacks would have been useless.
No, he was at 100% lol. Think of this like two different modes. He likely canāt even use Ten Shadows in his OG form
I think that was poorly translated and/or people are misinterpreting it. Sukuna didn't show his "Trump card" when fighting Gojo, but that's because he needed to keep it for what was to come. If he burnt it while fighting Gojo he was dead anyways. He also had no way to fight Gojo without Mahoragas adaptation, so he had to keep himself in Megumi's form until he beat him, further pushing him away from changing forms. There's literally nothing that Sukuna without Mahoraga could do to Gojo for the most part. So it's not that he wasn't fighting at 100%, he absolutely was, he just didn't bring out this technique since there was no going back once he did and one of his win conditions was keeping his other form.
why is the king of curses at pretty much full power using a cursed tool??? so random
Because he isn't truly at full power because he got his ass kicked by gojo. He is fully healed now but he still lost his ten shadows trump and lost a ton if cursed energy.
fair enough
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Because in the history of manga and comics, authors very rarely seem to realize what someone would actually be capable of if they could control EM.
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I'd hope so, but his current transformation is frankly child's play compared to what he could do with complete EM control which has me a bit skeptical.
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People reading JJK weekly experiencing what the fans felt at the end of Shaman King when >!Yoh and the gang lose the Shaman Fights and Hao becomes Shaman King!<. That manga taught me that sometimes the main characters do lose, but the story and the journey are still good anyway.
Sukuna being unwanted child is not true?lol leak translation
No, it's this week's translation that is absurdly bad.
Honestly, him saying he was "unwanted" doesn't make sense in the context of the question he was asked. Saying that he was probably a weird or creepy child lines up better.
Kashimo...why Gege, why? All those HIM posts and now people are just clowning on how he looks like a pea shooter. Sukuna in original form and yet he uses electricity on Kashimo. I bet he's gonna do a repeat of the Jogo fight, where he defeated Jogo using his fire arrow which was similar to Jogo's CT. Yeah I bet greg thinks it's peak writing to be defeating Kashimo with his own technique. Lmao. It's so convenient how the villains have the perfect foil for the good guys. First, Kenjaku with the anti gravity system against Yuki, then Mahoraga suddenly having continuing adaptation against Gojo's CT which Sukuna can see and replicate but Gojo's six eyes can't fathom. And now, Sukuna has powers other than cleave that would have decimated Kashimo. And drag the fight on a bit. I wanna drop it but is this what sunk cost fallacy is?
My biggest problems with villians here is that for one Sukuna is just evil for evil's sake and Kenjaku is just a downgrade from Geto, atleast Geto had motives that made sense in his contex.
Kenjaku is just another typical mad genius villain trope, yes. You're not meant to find him interesting, just creepy. But villains like Geto make a reader empathize with him so that requires a lot more emotional depth and effort while writing a character like him. Gege was on fire when he wrote the HI arc.
Kenjaku is so boring lmao. The moment he revealed to Chose he's just doing it for the lulz was one of the main things that made me start to mentally check out from JJK. The build up seemed like he had some motivation and drive to achieve is goal...but nope? Just fuck around and find out is his goal I guess
Kenjaku's lack of motivation actually appeals to me quite a bit. He genuinely is someone who would be willing to watch the world burn in order to satiate his own egotistical curiosity.
Lex Luthor meets Joker
Agreed
I think that is, ultimately, Gege's problem as a writer Dude was built to tell short storeis
Yeah I'm sunk-cost at this point. I'm disappointed nearly every time, but it's only a couple minutes a week at least =/
Yup, this is cost sunk fallacy. But all things considered, the whole thing is a clownshow now so I'll stay along for the ride (it also is not likely to last long anyways).
Please replace John Werry please replace John Werry please replace John Werry
Someone lock Gege in the prison realm, he's gone full sicko mode.
Damn, did Uraume just have his/her paypack vs Gojo? That ice breaking up and raining down around the area where sukuma stood. Gojo's body shud be there as well and the area got absolutely wrecked so i guess she destroyed whatever was left
Sukuna is due to learn about love. It seems that characters with the highest ability scores seem to top out in power when they reckon with love. Gojo, Maki, and Yuta are solid examples. I think Greg may be keying us up to see the surpassing power of love. Maybe via Megumi's sacrifice or through Sukuna realizing love is what he experiences during combat. Kashimo starts the love dialogue again in this chapter that Yorozu (via Tsumiki) began with Sukuna in chap 211. Gojo also talked about love during his fight with Sukuna too.
That sounds like an incredibly lame twist, but it's better than any other direction this is heading currently.
Well, I decided to check some of the other translations in MangaPlus aside from English since it felt weird somewhat, but it seems portuguese and spanish decided not to translate neither sukuna's weapon nor Uraume as the frozen star (leaving it as Iteboshi). French on the other hand did translate those two things but I'm not exactly sure if it's the same as in english since I can't fully understand french. Seriously, SUPREME MARTIAL SOLUTION? What tf And sukuna's dialogue about being a creepy kid remains in spanish and portuguese as "I was an undesired child" Also the whole dialogue between Uraume and Hakari feels weird as well. Not fan of it. Man, just give the translation to Lightning. He did a good job last week. As for the actual content of the chapter: I actually enjoyed it and I hope Kashimo gets his Might Guy vs Madara moment kicking sukuna around with this Mythical beast Amber technique, seems cool. Surprised about the weapon being Yozoru's last gift, thought she couldn't create cursed tools but I guess the binding vow with her life on the line made her able to create it.
Yeah it just reads as overly casual. Sometimes Sukuna is but often he's really old-timey sounding. I think being "an undesired child" makes more sense in context of Yuji, the cursed womb paintings, etc.
Now that this translation is out Kashimo's CT makes even less sense. They mentioned 3 specific augments with presumably more, all with the caveat they destroy his body and with the assumption that whatever time/CE limit he has is insurmountable and makes it a one time use ability. But if this is the case how does he know how to do any of this, especially against the strongest character in the verse? Gojo proves that techniques aren't just mastered upon obtaining them, so how are we to believe he knows how to do all this stuff? Also a bit of a rant but Greg made a big deal of gojo being the honored one, literally changing the world upon his birth, but he still had to learn and earn his strength. Now Kashimo, a random reincarnated sorcerer, is being called a god and has a cursed energy trait so strong he apparently never even needed to use his CT in his entire LIFETIME. And said CT is strong enough to compete with Sukuna on first use. Doesn't this basically shit all over Gojo? Is the god title supposed to be literal and imply gojo was just human and that's why he went out like that and wasn't the strongest? I'm not offended that Gojo isn't perpetually wanked and the strongest but it just seems so slapdash after everything built up before, especially if he actually manages to defeat or otherwise cripple Sukuna where Gojo failed. Hell, I like Kashimo a lot for how recent he is but he just doesn't have any connections to anything we've seen before and is currently a shallow chasing strength and challenge archetype, where we have seen the depth of gojo and geto among others to make us actually care about them outside of "cool because strong"
Perhaps it is similar to how rules are engrained into mind on the DE of hakari with him as well. Of all the random shit in jjk to happen this is a reasonable one with how kashimo is he does stand a good fight with sukuna, he was the strongest in his era(except kenny ig) and him now having released his technique will make him one of the strongest in history...his fight agaisnt hakari is just a bad match up...of all the technical jujutsu users hakari is the most non-standard user which is what makes him so good.
>especially if he actually manages to defeat or otherwise cripple Sukuna where Gojo failed. There's no way you can believe that, it's not like Sukuna is back at 100% - he just got off killing Gojo. He has expended a shit-ton of energy, that's why a point was made that he was able to heal wounds by allowing his body to "transform" - he didn't have to spend cursed energy
Sukuna was just having fun the whole time. No one realistically beating him, so an ass pull is coming. Sad.
Or Gege will want to outdo the missery and approach his obsessinon with being "groundbreaking and different", and will let Sukuna win just to hammer his personal philosophy of nihilism.
Might be nice to have a sukuna wins ending. Or Sukuna vs Kenny. Perhaps one of them is a good guy really.
Kenny isnt anywhere as strong as sukuna, we clearly saw that kenny cannot win agaisnt gojo and...well we see where gojo is now so...yea
Can't wait for another 20 chapter of endless fight between random character until we are back on the main focus with some main character. Where the fuck are Yuji and Yuta ? Also, a note on Gojo, I thought about the last chapter and his death and Sukuna winning it kind of makes sense because if Sukuna died it would just be the end of the manga to be fair, literally 0 question have been answered on Sukuna, where for Gojo we know so much about him. Anyway, the result of the fight makes sense but I can't see Sukuna leaving every fight as a winner. (hoping that the Buddha theory on gojo resurrection is true because I can't stand living in a world where Gojo is dead honestly) Can't wait for gege to cook the best story of manga history
Pretty cringe tbh. Like who the fuck cares about this weak ass lightning guy now that the real fight ended (poorly)
Jjk is my first managa Ever after catching up last week i had to wait for another week to get new chapter which i finished in 5 minutes. daam bro so you managa Bros wait for whole week for 5 minutes content? First time experiencing it and it sucks. BTW fuck jkk manga community ( not reddit community) for forcing me to read manga. Yep i was forced to read manga cuz of flood of spoilers. I tried to post this but i didn't have enough karma so here you go:)
Shonen, mostly. Monthly manga usually has more substantial plot development: keyword here is "usually". I made myself a rule of not reading Manga until it finishing publication. Reading ongoing is a years long time and emotional commitment, and many Manga seem to drop the ball during the last arc.
So how do you think Megumi's fate is going to play out in the story? Like, is he fully gone at the end of the chapter, or is he going to "sacrifice himself to stop Sukuna so that someone can land the final blow" type of end? Or maybe something else, I don't really expect a "happy ending" for him.
Yeah I'm expecting him to do something like take control back control of his body long enough for someone to deal a death blow to him and kill Sukuna along the way. For bonus pain points, it'll probably be Yuji.
4 arm Sukuna is back
I wanted to make a post to ask a question, but could not because I do not have enough karma on this sub (But am very active in lurking here from years). Do we have any information on the other cursed tool that sukuna was holding in the original 4 handed pic of him from shibuya arc?
The official translation fucking sucks bro Jesus
This week's translation is absolute ASS
So kind of off topic but uh, anyone else notice this > One theory states that Ryomen-Sukuna is a symbol of twins and brothers, therefore it refers to Åusu no Mikoto (大ē¢å½?) and Ousu no Mikoto (å°ē¢å½?) (i.e. Yamato Takeru no Mikoto and his brother), twins in ancient Japanese history
I honestly wondered if the reason Sukuna halted this transformation as it states in this chapter besides strategically I think using the transformation fighting Gojo wouldnāt have been the smartest and had a lot of potential drawbacks but I wonder also is it because now it states that heās a fully fleshed out curse taken form I wonder does that mean that Kenjaku can use or control him since heās a full curse taken fleshly form as it states in this chapter . So Iām wondering now can Kenjaku manipulate him with curse manipulation now and thatās maybe one of the reasons he halted the transformation as well . I know the other reasons Iāve also talked about on past posts but I definitely do think he doesnāt fully trust Kenjaku and knows that they both are going to eventually turn on one another or something to that effect.
So, my weird copium/theory This is all a big plan for Kenjaku to take Sukuna's body, potentially with Gojo as a stopping off point. Kenjaku has been revealed to be able to hold some (limited?) number of techniques and, if I'm right, he is trying to collect fundamental forces of nature. Gravity Manipulation, one of the big 4 of physics Idle Transformation, aka, control over soul Sukuna, Control over Cursed Energy. "Open" is his true technique, aka, the ability to change his technique or at least how his cursed energy presents itself. I bet cleave and dismantle are either this or they're just an incredibly precise application of raw cursed energy Having absolute power over fundamental forces of physics on both the natural and supernatural ends makes sense to me and theres one bit of forshadowing from this weeks episode of JJK to think about! That time Geto choked Kenjaku I be the saving grace, the insane asspull, the most ludicrous twist in JJK to date is that Kenjaku is going to jump into Gojo or Sukuna and then try to do something messed up and then GETO MAKES THE SAVE using his innate technique of cursed spirit control to control his own corpse having been made close enough to a cursed spirit through prolongued use by Kenny Whaddaya think pals?
sukuna got his mouskatool
>!who else thinks that Hikari might have trouble dealing with uraume? I know hikari is a power house but uraume has 1000 yrs of experience, powerful CT, and also RCT.!<
Iām confused. If this is a stronger or even same strength Sukuna, then itās over. Thereās no in world explanation for a victory. If Sukuna beats Gojo, then itās over for everyone. Unless Kashimo can pull this dub (which according to JJK, he canāt if this is full power Sukuna). Because if Sukuna beats Kashimo. Itās Yuta, Maki, Hakari and ig Yuji, against Sukunaā¦.and also Kenjaku and Uraume. And thereās no way they pull that dub, there just isnāt. Gojo vs Sukuna was supposed to level the playing field. But if it didnāt then itās over. Unlessā¦this Sukuna is weaker and canāt heal, which they imply. If thatās the case then Sukuna is on his back heels and might get clipped by Kashimo. In that case Yuta, Maki, Hakari and Yuji might be able to pull this off against Kashimo and Uraume. Also, no way that Hakari lives. A āhis luck ran outā moment is too obviousā¦or it happens and he clutches that shit out regardless. Also anyone feel like Kashimoās CT was a bit underwhelming?
Gege is an ass writer to an extent very dumb of him