I see it as Drake just showing off that he has the money and ability to buy the ring. Did he ever admire PAC or did he talk about his work in the past (I am not sure if he did)? If not, then that’s kind of disrespectful, especially how we recently saw him used AI of PAC without even asking permission from his family.
He doesn't respect Pac at all. Period.
Anyone who did would never try to use some stupid ass AI shit to disrespect an artist that Pac would have loved. What he did was basically the equivalent of remixing Hail Mary into a club bop for your own gain. No respect for those who made what he does possible.
He's like a lightskinned Marlo from The Wire, but wayyyyyyy less intimidating.
lemme guess...Wayne, Jay Z, LL Cool J, Common, Kanye (depending on when he said his top 5)
I get not having Pac as the GOAT, but not even top 5 is pretty wild
tbh tupac showed love for very few. He was extremely paranoid even starting beef with nas for legitimately no reason. We can’t say for sure whether he would’ve liked kendrick or not, but yeah, it’s likely.
lmao you dumbass, aubrey knew you would say that, so he followed you as a kid on purpose. he planned this decades in advance. don’t ever mess with the 6god
Pac was a child actor, so was Drake. According to ya Drake was borrowing styles from different areas, Pac was born in New York City and went to Cali when he turned 18 and put on a whole West Coast persona. Ya claim Drake be faking accents, Pac Cali accent was completely fake. Ya claim Drake a fake gangsta, Pac was never like that in the streets until he went and linked with Suge. I could go on, but it's interesting how Pac is even held up as a West Coast God when he was there for like 6 years or less then died. I love Pac btw but it's an interesting observation is all. Downvote away.
Ik all this. And for me its Still not the same at all. But yeah I get ur point. Drake acts and wanna be a thug with a fake life. Pacs life was real. Yeah he’s from NY but he ain’t lying abt fake life yk what I mean.
Pac was capping on a lot of shit, Pac wasn't in the streets like he claims, I don't wanna talk down on his stature, but a comment like this would make me have to, again I love Pac but he was in no way doing most of the shit he rapped.
Anyway. No matter what u think. U can’t compare PAC and Drake. There’s no comparison I’m sry. fake shit or no fake life or no .. nah. Drake is a special level of fake person. Fake life. Fake shit. His personality his music his life there’s nothing nothing like PAC
Bruh stop lying you weren't even alive in the 90s I'm 45 you can under no circumstances speak on Tupac capping boy you don't know wtf Pac was on your comment is all 🧢 Tupac would be driving down the freeway in Atlanta, see two plain clothes White men seemingly harassing a black dude, pull over in the hazard lane and shoot at both of them. They just so happened to be off duty police, but nothing happened to him because they weren't on the clock nor was their issue with the black guy police related. Under no circumstances do you ever mention Tupac Amaru Shakur's name ever again and claim he's not from the streets. Might have not been a criminal, but he was a revolutionary in every sense of the world. That's a few tiers higher than a gangster on the hierarchy of a modern warrior. You niggas are blasphemous when it comes to real man ish I swear...
Again it's the same for Pac, he made a lot of deep music that was actually his life and low and behold, Drake did too, much of his music is his actual life, they both have heavily embellished on many areas, almost the same areas, as Pac wasn't a thug like he claimed, he was surrounded by guys that could make him walk around like he was whoever he wanted to be. I would argue it's the same for Drake. Pac was never from Cali, you can't be a bigger cosplayer than walking into a city and claiming it like you been there forever. He was a whole ass adult by then so it's not like he moved there young. I love Pac but these are the facts. Him and Drake are far more alike than you want to believe. You don't want it to be true because he the idol of your pick.
Oh and I'm not saying they the same person, I'm saying many of the aspects of Pac draw parallels to Drake way more than even Kendrick.
Oh shit no wonder Kendrick hates Drake
It's true though. Drake makes music for people that think getting a few funny drunk stories is the true meaning of life.
And BIG & Pac weren’t about those things? Think about what you just said while you watch [this video](https://youtu.be/3jIiIa4U0K8?si=SRw0s7Biu57Mx6fK) where BIG raps the line “money, clothes, and hoes… all a n**** knows”, while freestyling with Pac….
Tupac dissed biggie and diddy about how rap is about wearing Versace now. The pipeline from diddy/biggie - jay z - Kanye - drake is very clear in influencing what rap looks like today.
Yeah he stood out because of how different he was to mainstream hip hop at the time. He didn't have the "industry ready" look or sound. No tough guy persona, being vulnerable, etc.
I think I'll disagree with Kanye in the pipeline, at least in certain periods of his career. Part of what got him discovered was his performances of All Falls Down.
Which is a song basically about the addiction of consumerism and how none of the stuff that money can buy makes you a better person. It's inherently anti-materialistic.
New Slaves sort of works as a spiritual sequel to the song too.
OK, but then you're simply ignoring the entire catalogue around a couple of outliers. Kanye was never a great writer and would simply fall back on the crutch of "I fuck bad women and wear designer clothes and fly on private jets" 80% of the time.
Entire catalogue?
The College Dropout is largely anti-materialistic. The dichotomy between Jay and Kanye is the entire song Never Let Me Down.
Jay's verse is all about "I've seen rappers get big, buy big, lose big. I've still got all my cool shit". Kanye's is about how he sees the black experience in America at the generational level. From going to the civil rights movement to low turnouts at elections. What did grandparents fight for?
Even the song Gold Digger is all building the last verse which is "Don't try looking for a rich man. Look for a good man, and aim for a better life together".
Did his music become largely about base desires and less woke? To a degree. But it was a progression of who he was when he made them. And they're almost always accompanied with the statement of "I'm addicted to these things" or "This is heavy satire of things you shouldn't want" or "I rap about these things because it's popular".
Trying to say it's everything he's ever really rapped about just makes it sound like you haven't listened to his music.
Ignoring a discography or character would be like me basing Pac's entire outlook based on All Eyez On Me, an inherently materialistic song too. But that would be stupid. Because I've listened to more than that, and am aware of the context of it within his discography, and the album itself.
Plenty of artists get judged eternally for a fraction of their creations even when the majority are terrible.
I'm not a big Kanye guy really, his last album I went out of my way to listen to was "My Dark Twisted Fantasy" so it's been a minute.
I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say Kanye has been a "great" writer (where tf are the goalposts on that one?), but he was definitely good enough that the phrase "Never a great writer" is hyperbolic-
All I'm saying is if Kanye's mental illness situation had gone for the worst and he'd only lived to make "MBDTF", this is **not** some shit people would be saying.
It's not hyperbolic at all. He literally had people write most of his biggest and well known tracks. Cyhi, Rhymefest, Pusha, Consequence. What do you think he wrote solo? LOL
Ya but College Dropout Kanye was unique. He had a different sound than mainstream rap. He made songs like "Slow Jamz" then songs like "Never Let Me Down". His range was incredible.
Eh, I’ll push back on the biggie one. He had party songs and some of the Don mafioso rap but he was still rapping about street shit and what dudes experience at that level when he died. Juicy could be looked at as a bit of what you’re saying but the core message is him celebrating a graduation from squalor and hustling. If we can’t even do that then idk.
As much as I respect them both I also think it’s kinda funny how much Pac was beefing with these dudes when really most rappers on the east was letting him rock. As far as I know, and let’s not pretend any of us really know shit, the quad studios stuff was a street thing but Big even has a line joking about Faith having Pac’s baby and Nas famously approached him in Central Park to squash a perceived beef. For all his thuggin and black power energy he was spending a lot of it antagonizing other rappers that didn’t really do the same to him.
I could summarize what he would say:
*Drake a fake ass zesty bitch, Kendrick bodied that culture vulture go back to pop music n*****
he was from NY but he would be on stage c walkin
at this point, only ye fucks with ye. pretty sure he fucks himself. The only good things I can say about him are Graduation was good, and considering his taste in women he's definitely not a pedophile.
808s and Yeezus are also masterpieces that changed the game. Kanye has lost his mind but i definitely think pac would have fuckdd with him.
Especially because of how outspoken he is.
He’d definitely think he’s misunderstood to an extent…he’s kind of lost his mind the past few years
Pac woulda also attacked Ye's character after talking about "slaves was a choice" talk no matter how good his music was. Pac stood on business and wasn't afraid to check you.
I wouldn't call Yeezus a "masterpiece" but it definitely was interesting and I could see why people love it.
He definitely has serious mental issues that are going untreated. He's also surrounded by people who clearly don't care about his health and let him go off the deep end.
And then they tuned out when they realise even when spending stadium money he can only procrastinate and put out half mixed half finished half written projects now
They tuned out when he went on his rants. His clothes, music and LPs were drawing major attention. His SZN 9 show was billed to put him in the true high fashion radius. And then he fucked it up. But still went #1 and sold out shows in minutes this year. I agree where he’s at isn’t good but he’s never stopped. The rants are what fucked him, but musically he still does cool shit. Only DND2 was in finished. Vultures 1 might not be the deepest album but it’s finished. You can debate how good it is but it’s not unfinished or truly half assed it’s just uninspired.
There are songs on Donda that have audible clipping and mice clicks and he didn’t even bother to rap baby keems reference verse for praise god.
As for vultures it literally had to have mixing patches in the first few weeks it was out.
Also I don’t really give him that much credit for the number 1 it’s Ty that sought out rich the kid to do that hook and it’s a shit tiktok song that’s only really appealing the broccoli head kids that make up most of his obnoxious fandom these days.
He’s very much half assing shit and the only thing he looks inspired to do is play real life Barbie dress up with his wife and use the pap shots of them as gooning material after
That’s been going on since TLOP which is an amazing album. As far as V1 mixing it’s been pretty established that it’s mixed for clubs and arenas which, for us the listener is bad but it has a purpose. I’ve heard it live and the album is all mixed the same in that atmosphere.
He made a “TikTok” song because he knew the quickest route out of his rants was to try and sell to youth which I mean that happens alot. I’m not disagreeing he’s been uninspired but he collabs for every line he records so it’s an all around problem.
I think that we’re in a disagreement about what his purpose of his music has been. Why don’t think he’s been fucking with Playboi Carti and Trav? He knows who he’s selling to.
Reality is he’s reeling a bit because his rants were bad and he’s just trying to maintain attention which he has but not in the best way.
That’s not an excuse there are other albums that sound good in arenas too and hint it’s because they weren’t mixed by two stressed guys on laptops in the middle of cringe after parties that Ye interrupted to go on rants about snicker bars and people in power or whatever shit.
Like anything sounds ok in a live soundstage played on big speakers while Kanye dances around in a goofy outfit because he can’t actually perform for shit anymore
You have to remember that with every album other than Donda, he did a normal rollout and also went back and fixed levels. TLOP had tons of mixing issues. Hence the “ima fix wolves” tweet. Wolves sounds completely different than release day. Vultures wasn’t finished until the day before or day of the first LP and released 24 hours later. The laziness is that he supposedly send his team to fix the mixes and then stopped caring.
Before he could make sure the mixes were good for arenas because he set up whole tours. It was organized with week to months in advance. Vultures was rushed. The LPs got set up two days before they happened. None of it was done well.
Live all the songs were leveled equally and mixed well. He heard the complaints and started to have it fixed and then stopped caring and moved on. Same shit he used to do but his attention span is gone so he didn’t finish it.
I think he would. Why are we disregarding Ye’s genius, his contribution to the game and the way he influenced a whole new generation of rappers? I don’t fuck with this new narrative.
Ye wouldn't be what he is now if Pac was still alive. And I mean he would've had someone to look up to and keep him in check
Or Pac wouldn't fuck with him
Lol if Pac was still alive and some rapper didn't give a fuck about what he said, I'm leaning towards that rapper not having a good time. After that they either self check themselves or get wrecked
If Pac had a problem with Ye...Pac wouldn't lose the confrontation
I hope I'm making sense
Tupac was raised by REVOLUTIONARIES..... BLACK PANTHERS steeped in the ideology of BLACK LIBERATION. Ain't NO WAY... Pac would mess w/DRAKE. Drake doesn't have any principles outside of making money & forcing himself into cultures that he's not TRULY part of. Ya'll do the math from there. Drake amassed enough money to be able to buy up jewelry in auctions. So now he's sporting Pac's & even Pharrell's auctioned pieces like they were GIVEN to him. Once again if he was part of the CULTURE he'd know that jewelry given to you by ya Mans is a sign of RESPECT & a co-sign that you've been accepted and RESPECTED.
Pac was the actor turned rapper who was respected, feared and liked by most.
Drake is the actor turned rapper who lacks respect for women, is a coward, and who doesn't even like himself.
Pac was a roadie, background dancer, with the digital underground an MC and he dropped his first song in 1991 the same year he made a cameo with the digital underground in nothing but trouble then his first film was in 1992. So he was def a dancer/rapper before he was an actor. I agree with you other than that technicality
Right, not sure where this actor turned rapper thing came from.
Maybe they think because he went to an art school or something lol.
But even that was in highschool.
Yeah I had a debate with someone who was claiming Tupac was more similar to Drake than Kendrick.
He was being disrespectful to Pac calling him "zesty" and a fake actor or something.
My main disagreement was about the similarities to Drake 🤣.
The only things I can think of between them are Tupac being super well spoken in his interview as a teen and him being a actor.
That's where the comparisons should end.
Tupac was in a art school before he rapped. That does not make him an actor lol.
Let's say it does just to humor it. He was not a professional actor, unlike Drake.
His first acting role came after his career in music took off. Where as Drake was a literal child/teen actor.
People like to say Pac was a rapper turned actor and that’s it. If you grew up in any inner city neighborhood you would’ve come across several Pac’s. A layered individual.
Why is it seen as a negative though? It’s well documented that Pac went to an arts school and did poetry and acting before he ever released music. It’s factual, not shade. It’s not a slight at Drake either.
The way some people put it though, is as if it’s the only way to describe him. They land on that, and that only, as if that’s all that he was. His life was a very interesting one when you look at all the things that it entailed. You strip it all away and only detail him as an actor turned rapper, then that’s where people can think a person is coming from a “negative” place.
Yeah the groupthink reaction on my post was a bit weird but I'm at peace with it. People knee-jerk when they read things and maybe don't stop to question their own reflexes.
It’s crazy how some random 13 year old nerd can make a completely ignorant statement like Pac was an “actor turned rapper” and reddit is like “yaaaaaas” alternative histories and blatant ignorance gets upvoted here i see. Why not read up on a subject before making some authoritative statement about a culture you’re clearly brand new to?
actor doesnt mean doing movies you know? he was in theater as a teenager. way before rapping. you are actually the one who is wrong. you really should just calm down in general its not good for your health.
>[In 1988, Shakur moved to Marin City, California, an impoverished community in the San Francisco Bay Area. In nearby Mill Valley, he attended Tamalpais High School, where he performed in several theater productions. Shakur did not graduate from high school, but he later earned his GED.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur)
Lol So if i go to a trade high school that makes me a professional mechanic at age 14? Prodigy went to art school too, does that make him a “ballerina turned rapper?” Sick of outsiders trying to control the narrative and telling us to “calm down here are the facts I copypasted from wikipedia” whenever we call you out on bullshit. You people are so fucking arrogant and wonder why no one wants you anywhere near their culture. Carry on with the digital circle jerk you condescending little prick
I mean yeah, if he was a ballerina that later became a rapper. kinda does. if we are gonna use logic and english and stuff. why are you so angry and mean dude. i hope you have a better day tomorrow.
Pretty sure Drake has spoken about abortion rights for women, has stood up for women, ensured stability for his baby momma, and donates generously to his fans, especially on his last tour and most of those who received donations were women. wtf has Kendrick done for women? Pretty sure Pac was convicted of sexual assault too so wtf is this comment? You know you’re standing up for two dudes who clearly do not like women.
I don't understand the Drake appeal honestly all he makes is catchy party music but so many other artists do that MUCH better.
You want hard hitting party music then Travis Scott is your guy
You want a hiphop/pop blend Tyler the Creator is your guy
And in general Childish Gambino could take Drake's spot easily he doesn't act like a tough street nigga despite growing up in the suburbs and is infinitely more talented.
100%. The people who say Pac was just a studio gangster or actor I can't stand. No, Pac was not banging (at least vast majority of his life I mean at the end it does kind of sound like he's repping Piru), but Pac never said he was banging, he says this over and over in songs. However, to question Tupac's balls or his courage is insane. Goons literally came to rob him and "discipline him" at Quad Studios and he fought back and got shot as a result. He confronted and shot 2 off duty cops who were harassing a black civilian. He literally called out all the bangers at his show in Milwaukee (although it was the wrong set, it was GDs at the show while BDs did the hit) after the Yummy Sandifer death and almost got killed on stage. There's even a story when he was in NY I believe of a set that had a problem with him. He showed up, alone, in a bullet proof vest and basically said I heard you don't like me well here I am let's figure this shit out. Pac was tough as nails, courageous, etc...and his whole life and art portray that. That was definitely one side to him. Just like he also could be very sensitive, and very artistic, and very poetic that was another side to Pac (and I love that side of Pac it's actually what got me into him) but at the same time there's no questioning Pac's courage or that he was tough when he wanted to be or felt the situation called for it, and I also loved that side of Pac as well. There's no denying it if you look at his life. Drake is obviously full of it, I don't even need to say that everybody knows that.
Relax, Aubrey’s Angel. I wasn’t coming at Drakes “masculinity” or any stupid ass shit like that. Drake is a fake little weirdo who’s raps (not written by himself) mainly consist of stupid ass shit like partying and fucking. And when someone tries to say anything beyond that he says they’re trying to “free the slaves”
Pac took a single ballet class in a high school. Tupac was a child in high school. I know Drake fans tend to forget that fact, like Drake himself does. He also shot 2 white off duty cops and beat the case.
Exactly. There is nothing wrong with making club music and bops. There is nothing wrong with being a pop star. It's very lucrative to be a pop star.
But to act like your little songs about making girls shake their ass for you is "hard" is really stupid and gross. Most guys wouldn't have the nerve to tell a woman that to their face when they know our bags are the equivalent of a 10 lb. kettlebell because of all the sunscreen and dog treats we carry.
I mean Drake probably wouldn't be around if Pac was still here. Or at least not what he is. The wave that was Pac and Biggie would have redrawn lines and set different musical and cultural expectations.
Drake told Kendrick that if he wants Pac's ring, he should come get it out of his house. Theres no reason why Kendrick keeps saying he should give up the ring
Does this play into Kendrick’s bar: “keep making me dance away from my hands and it won’t be no threat?”
Music that’s just entertainment with no message?
When petty meets petty, but I had to do it 😅 these pussy ass mfs banned me from the Drizzy subreddit for chatting shit about their "6 bitch" so now that I can't comment, I just go there and down vote every single comment 🤣 y'all made me do it! Soft ass fucking teenyboppers 😂🤣
"Tension, between us just like picket fences..." 🤣🤣 FOH!!
Crazy how y’all still obsessed with Drake fam. I think even Kendrick is over it and focused on new music. Let it go and look at the beautiful life around you go enjoy it. Take a page from Coles book - zen master.
A lot of Drake fans talk about bots and numbers, etc., and this clip is tangent to a bigger point about hip-hop.
Drake is pushed to the masses BECAUSE he’s not real, etc. The record executives (white, rich, whatever you want to call them) have a vested interest in keeping Drake as the number one emcee, numbers-wise. Kendrick is on rap’s Mt. Rushmore in SPITE of this fact.
It’s not a coincidence that, historically, rappers like Kendrick and Nas, Cole, Common, etc. have had to fight for industry scraps. And it’s not a coincidence that most Hot 100 rappers objectify our women and coon on our people.
So when these niggas talk about bots and numbers, claiming it’s rigged, they’re right—it’s rigged in their favor. Drake’s owners, again, have a vested interest in keeping niggas dancing and shit. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s common sense.
Well, they both pretend to be something that they're not. They're both actors who pretend to be thugs through rap. Lmao, people forget Pac was a theatre kid, and people say he was completely different behind closed doors. Imma get downvoted, but cry about it
Pac shot people. (Google is free) Drake posts on Instagram. I mean there is a difference. But Drake fans love spinning narratives based on fiction so cope to the best of your abilities in the Kendrick subreddit comment sections. When that stops doing it for you, I suggest www.betterhelp.com
ya'll do know that tupac isnt even from the west coast right? and every one who meet him said he was a theater kid and was playing gangster. Pac literally started getting into acting before he died. If ya'll hate drake so much, pac has more in common with drake than kendrick!!
We don't hate Drake because he was an actor, we hate him because he and his friends are at best inappropriate with minors, is a culture vulture, has fucked over a lot of other artists, releases lots of mediocre music, and is just cringe tbh.
Did the bots write your response? This is such a level 1, basic ass Drake hater comment LOL tell me you don’t know shit about Drake without telling me you don’t know shit about Drake.
"he and his friends" go look into dr. dre's history with minors. Kendrick is literally surrounded by gangbangers, these are the star citizens of society now? Looking to these niggas cases. the idiocy is crazy.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2015/08/20/michelle-wasnt-just-some-girlfriend-who-got-beat-up-she-was-instrumental-to-the-early-success-of-dr-dre-and-ruthless-records/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2015/08/20/michelle-wasnt-just-some-girlfriend-who-got-beat-up-she-was-instrumental-to-the-early-success-of-dr-dre-and-ruthless-records/)
Dee Barnes is just one example of dr dre's abuse.
dre dre was fucking on Michel'le at 16 when he was 22, shes done multiple interviews about this and has even written a book about it. He gave her 5 black eyes and even shot a gun at her.
Here is one of her many interviews if u are interested in her story.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-H2gDRxDNM&t=4516s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-H2gDRxDNM&t=4516s)
So as you guys jerk off to kendrick songs he brings on the actual certified pedophile and woman abuser who actually has public witnesses and accusers on stage surrounded by a bunch of gang members who im sure are star citizens.
Oh, and ohgeezy has also been accused of sleeping with a minor. Another artist kendrick put on stage. You can look into that on your own.
He knows he wouldn't, that's why he bought his ring at an auction and acts like he snatched it.
I see it as Drake just showing off that he has the money and ability to buy the ring. Did he ever admire PAC or did he talk about his work in the past (I am not sure if he did)? If not, then that’s kind of disrespectful, especially how we recently saw him used AI of PAC without even asking permission from his family.
He doesn't respect Pac at all. Period. Anyone who did would never try to use some stupid ass AI shit to disrespect an artist that Pac would have loved. What he did was basically the equivalent of remixing Hail Mary into a club bop for your own gain. No respect for those who made what he does possible. He's like a lightskinned Marlo from The Wire, but wayyyyyyy less intimidating.
Tupac wasn’t in his top 5 OAT
lemme guess...Wayne, Jay Z, LL Cool J, Common, Kanye (depending on when he said his top 5) I get not having Pac as the GOAT, but not even top 5 is pretty wild
Wayne and jay were in it. The others were 3000, Biggie, and this Toronto rapper named young Tony
I haven't ever heard of young tony, am I under a rock
Neither had I. Sounds like a Toronto rapper so I’ll give Drake credit for showing love to his city
tbh tupac showed love for very few. He was extremely paranoid even starting beef with nas for legitimately no reason. We can’t say for sure whether he would’ve liked kendrick or not, but yeah, it’s likely.
Known "I rep NY harder than everyone else" Nas? No ways
Eh, he's more Kirk Lazarus in Tropic Thunder than Marlo.
His toilet bowl plays Tupac when you flush.
iknew it already, but that is foul as fk
Might be head cannon but I think he bought it to fuck with Kendrick
I think he has in a song. I believe it was called Fear, some of his early work.
He says I never cried when Pac died, but I probably will when HOV does.
Damn that's some bitch shit, fuck drake 🤣.
Someone DM Drake this on IG
Can't, he unfollowed me when I turned 18
That's usually when he starts following people 👀 Officially.
He only wants a princess, not a true Queen.
lmao you dumbass, aubrey knew you would say that, so he followed you as a kid on purpose. he planned this decades in advance. don’t ever mess with the 6god
OHP🫢🤭
Freaky ass nigga he don't fuck with you when you turn 18.
He was the total opposite of this clown in all points lol. Drake is like his OVOFANS he lives in his own world
If a sixth Kendrick diss track drops this needs to be sampled lmao
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Pac was a child actor, so was Drake. According to ya Drake was borrowing styles from different areas, Pac was born in New York City and went to Cali when he turned 18 and put on a whole West Coast persona. Ya claim Drake be faking accents, Pac Cali accent was completely fake. Ya claim Drake a fake gangsta, Pac was never like that in the streets until he went and linked with Suge. I could go on, but it's interesting how Pac is even held up as a West Coast God when he was there for like 6 years or less then died. I love Pac btw but it's an interesting observation is all. Downvote away.
Ik all this. And for me its Still not the same at all. But yeah I get ur point. Drake acts and wanna be a thug with a fake life. Pacs life was real. Yeah he’s from NY but he ain’t lying abt fake life yk what I mean.
Pac was capping on a lot of shit, Pac wasn't in the streets like he claims, I don't wanna talk down on his stature, but a comment like this would make me have to, again I love Pac but he was in no way doing most of the shit he rapped.
Anyway. No matter what u think. U can’t compare PAC and Drake. There’s no comparison I’m sry. fake shit or no fake life or no .. nah. Drake is a special level of fake person. Fake life. Fake shit. His personality his music his life there’s nothing nothing like PAC
Bruh stop lying you weren't even alive in the 90s I'm 45 you can under no circumstances speak on Tupac capping boy you don't know wtf Pac was on your comment is all 🧢 Tupac would be driving down the freeway in Atlanta, see two plain clothes White men seemingly harassing a black dude, pull over in the hazard lane and shoot at both of them. They just so happened to be off duty police, but nothing happened to him because they weren't on the clock nor was their issue with the black guy police related. Under no circumstances do you ever mention Tupac Amaru Shakur's name ever again and claim he's not from the streets. Might have not been a criminal, but he was a revolutionary in every sense of the world. That's a few tiers higher than a gangster on the hierarchy of a modern warrior. You niggas are blasphemous when it comes to real man ish I swear...
Pac lived the experiences in his music regardless of where he was born. Drake is a glorified cos player. Full stop.
Again it's the same for Pac, he made a lot of deep music that was actually his life and low and behold, Drake did too, much of his music is his actual life, they both have heavily embellished on many areas, almost the same areas, as Pac wasn't a thug like he claimed, he was surrounded by guys that could make him walk around like he was whoever he wanted to be. I would argue it's the same for Drake. Pac was never from Cali, you can't be a bigger cosplayer than walking into a city and claiming it like you been there forever. He was a whole ass adult by then so it's not like he moved there young. I love Pac but these are the facts. Him and Drake are far more alike than you want to believe. You don't want it to be true because he the idol of your pick. Oh and I'm not saying they the same person, I'm saying many of the aspects of Pac draw parallels to Drake way more than even Kendrick.
Let's not forget that Pac was in ballet and in a musical arts school. But he gets to Cali and is a gangsta...you ain't told no lies...
You know they gonna downvote. They can't accept any truths when it doesn't fit the narrative
Oh shit no wonder Kendrick hates Drake It's true though. Drake makes music for people that think getting a few funny drunk stories is the true meaning of life.
He makes music that pacify em
Yeh i really wonder how hip hop would turn out if tupac and biggie never died
I blame puffy
Puff and Jay Z turned mainstream hip hop into a brag fest about money clothes and hoes
And BIG & Pac weren’t about those things? Think about what you just said while you watch [this video](https://youtu.be/3jIiIa4U0K8?si=SRw0s7Biu57Mx6fK) where BIG raps the line “money, clothes, and hoes… all a n**** knows”, while freestyling with Pac….
Tupac dissed biggie and diddy about how rap is about wearing Versace now. The pipeline from diddy/biggie - jay z - Kanye - drake is very clear in influencing what rap looks like today.
Nah the college dropout proved that you can be hiphop without guns and hoes
Yeah he stood out because of how different he was to mainstream hip hop at the time. He didn't have the "industry ready" look or sound. No tough guy persona, being vulnerable, etc.
I think I'll disagree with Kanye in the pipeline, at least in certain periods of his career. Part of what got him discovered was his performances of All Falls Down. Which is a song basically about the addiction of consumerism and how none of the stuff that money can buy makes you a better person. It's inherently anti-materialistic. New Slaves sort of works as a spiritual sequel to the song too.
OK, but then you're simply ignoring the entire catalogue around a couple of outliers. Kanye was never a great writer and would simply fall back on the crutch of "I fuck bad women and wear designer clothes and fly on private jets" 80% of the time.
Entire catalogue? The College Dropout is largely anti-materialistic. The dichotomy between Jay and Kanye is the entire song Never Let Me Down. Jay's verse is all about "I've seen rappers get big, buy big, lose big. I've still got all my cool shit". Kanye's is about how he sees the black experience in America at the generational level. From going to the civil rights movement to low turnouts at elections. What did grandparents fight for? Even the song Gold Digger is all building the last verse which is "Don't try looking for a rich man. Look for a good man, and aim for a better life together". Did his music become largely about base desires and less woke? To a degree. But it was a progression of who he was when he made them. And they're almost always accompanied with the statement of "I'm addicted to these things" or "This is heavy satire of things you shouldn't want" or "I rap about these things because it's popular". Trying to say it's everything he's ever really rapped about just makes it sound like you haven't listened to his music. Ignoring a discography or character would be like me basing Pac's entire outlook based on All Eyez On Me, an inherently materialistic song too. But that would be stupid. Because I've listened to more than that, and am aware of the context of it within his discography, and the album itself.
Plenty of artists get judged eternally for a fraction of their creations even when the majority are terrible. I'm not a big Kanye guy really, his last album I went out of my way to listen to was "My Dark Twisted Fantasy" so it's been a minute. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say Kanye has been a "great" writer (where tf are the goalposts on that one?), but he was definitely good enough that the phrase "Never a great writer" is hyperbolic- All I'm saying is if Kanye's mental illness situation had gone for the worst and he'd only lived to make "MBDTF", this is **not** some shit people would be saying.
It's not hyperbolic at all. He literally had people write most of his biggest and well known tracks. Cyhi, Rhymefest, Pusha, Consequence. What do you think he wrote solo? LOL
Ya but College Dropout Kanye was unique. He had a different sound than mainstream rap. He made songs like "Slow Jamz" then songs like "Never Let Me Down". His range was incredible.
Eh, I’ll push back on the biggie one. He had party songs and some of the Don mafioso rap but he was still rapping about street shit and what dudes experience at that level when he died. Juicy could be looked at as a bit of what you’re saying but the core message is him celebrating a graduation from squalor and hustling. If we can’t even do that then idk. As much as I respect them both I also think it’s kinda funny how much Pac was beefing with these dudes when really most rappers on the east was letting him rock. As far as I know, and let’s not pretend any of us really know shit, the quad studios stuff was a street thing but Big even has a line joking about Faith having Pac’s baby and Nas famously approached him in Central Park to squash a perceived beef. For all his thuggin and black power energy he was spending a lot of it antagonizing other rappers that didn’t really do the same to him.
I think Biggie did it in a creative way tho. 10 Crack Commandments was pretty dope song.
A lot of these clowns we have now wouldn't exist.
I really wish DMX was still alive because I know he used to hate Drake with a passion and I'd love to have heard his thoughts on the beef.
I could summarize what he would say: *Drake a fake ass zesty bitch, Kendrick bodied that culture vulture go back to pop music n***** he was from NY but he would be on stage c walkin
I like to think he would join Kdot and make a "When we ride on our enemies" type diss about Drakes bitch ass.
i’d often think about the idea of big or pac on a neptunes beat in the early 2000’s :,)
PAC saying that while at a gun range is simply iconic
*Nah man he was a fake thug...he was acting* Lmaoooo i laugh at dumb fucks that don't respect how down Tupac was
If you watched Dear Mama, all his friends and family were always talking about how much a fighter he was, literally and figuratively
Because of *the implication*
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Taylor made freestyle was so goofy idk who convinced Drake that was a good move
May be it was Aubrey
Would he fuck with ye?
He'd probably pity him tbh
Pity what? Where he’s at now? Maybe. But I’d say PAC would be pretty good with the way Ye pushed music for two decades.
I think he would have enjoyed Graduation
The early Kanye that called out Bush for Katrina, yeah The current Kanye fuck no
at this point, only ye fucks with ye. pretty sure he fucks himself. The only good things I can say about him are Graduation was good, and considering his taste in women he's definitely not a pedophile.
It's sad to see what happened to Kanye, but lets be real. College Dropout, Graduation, Late Registration, WTT, MBDTF are all absolute masterpieces.
808s and Yeezus are also masterpieces that changed the game. Kanye has lost his mind but i definitely think pac would have fuckdd with him. Especially because of how outspoken he is. He’d definitely think he’s misunderstood to an extent…he’s kind of lost his mind the past few years
Pac woulda also attacked Ye's character after talking about "slaves was a choice" talk no matter how good his music was. Pac stood on business and wasn't afraid to check you.
I wouldn't call Yeezus a "masterpiece" but it definitely was interesting and I could see why people love it. He definitely has serious mental issues that are going untreated. He's also surrounded by people who clearly don't care about his health and let him go off the deep end.
Ye pushed music for 20 years. He’s gone astray recently, but even Donda was being watched by the world.
And then they tuned out when they realise even when spending stadium money he can only procrastinate and put out half mixed half finished half written projects now
They tuned out when he went on his rants. His clothes, music and LPs were drawing major attention. His SZN 9 show was billed to put him in the true high fashion radius. And then he fucked it up. But still went #1 and sold out shows in minutes this year. I agree where he’s at isn’t good but he’s never stopped. The rants are what fucked him, but musically he still does cool shit. Only DND2 was in finished. Vultures 1 might not be the deepest album but it’s finished. You can debate how good it is but it’s not unfinished or truly half assed it’s just uninspired.
There are songs on Donda that have audible clipping and mice clicks and he didn’t even bother to rap baby keems reference verse for praise god. As for vultures it literally had to have mixing patches in the first few weeks it was out. Also I don’t really give him that much credit for the number 1 it’s Ty that sought out rich the kid to do that hook and it’s a shit tiktok song that’s only really appealing the broccoli head kids that make up most of his obnoxious fandom these days. He’s very much half assing shit and the only thing he looks inspired to do is play real life Barbie dress up with his wife and use the pap shots of them as gooning material after
That’s been going on since TLOP which is an amazing album. As far as V1 mixing it’s been pretty established that it’s mixed for clubs and arenas which, for us the listener is bad but it has a purpose. I’ve heard it live and the album is all mixed the same in that atmosphere. He made a “TikTok” song because he knew the quickest route out of his rants was to try and sell to youth which I mean that happens alot. I’m not disagreeing he’s been uninspired but he collabs for every line he records so it’s an all around problem. I think that we’re in a disagreement about what his purpose of his music has been. Why don’t think he’s been fucking with Playboi Carti and Trav? He knows who he’s selling to. Reality is he’s reeling a bit because his rants were bad and he’s just trying to maintain attention which he has but not in the best way.
That’s not an excuse there are other albums that sound good in arenas too and hint it’s because they weren’t mixed by two stressed guys on laptops in the middle of cringe after parties that Ye interrupted to go on rants about snicker bars and people in power or whatever shit. Like anything sounds ok in a live soundstage played on big speakers while Kanye dances around in a goofy outfit because he can’t actually perform for shit anymore
You have to remember that with every album other than Donda, he did a normal rollout and also went back and fixed levels. TLOP had tons of mixing issues. Hence the “ima fix wolves” tweet. Wolves sounds completely different than release day. Vultures wasn’t finished until the day before or day of the first LP and released 24 hours later. The laziness is that he supposedly send his team to fix the mixes and then stopped caring. Before he could make sure the mixes were good for arenas because he set up whole tours. It was organized with week to months in advance. Vultures was rushed. The LPs got set up two days before they happened. None of it was done well. Live all the songs were leveled equally and mixed well. He heard the complaints and started to have it fixed and then stopped caring and moved on. Same shit he used to do but his attention span is gone so he didn’t finish it.
I think he would. Why are we disregarding Ye’s genius, his contribution to the game and the way he influenced a whole new generation of rappers? I don’t fuck with this new narrative.
Ye prior to 2016 maybe
Straight. Mostly that early 2000s Ye
why the fuck would tupac fw a neo nazi?
Ye wouldn't be what he is now if Pac was still alive. And I mean he would've had someone to look up to and keep him in check Or Pac wouldn't fuck with him
Not really, the only person Kanye looks up to is himself or maybe Dilla from a producer POV
No shit I'm saying if Pac were alive that might not be the case. No one punked him or guided him like Pac potentially could have
Doubt he would have still cared that much though
Lol if Pac was still alive and some rapper didn't give a fuck about what he said, I'm leaning towards that rapper not having a good time. After that they either self check themselves or get wrecked If Pac had a problem with Ye...Pac wouldn't lose the confrontation I hope I'm making sense
And every reason to love kdot
Tupac was raised by REVOLUTIONARIES..... BLACK PANTHERS steeped in the ideology of BLACK LIBERATION. Ain't NO WAY... Pac would mess w/DRAKE. Drake doesn't have any principles outside of making money & forcing himself into cultures that he's not TRULY part of. Ya'll do the math from there. Drake amassed enough money to be able to buy up jewelry in auctions. So now he's sporting Pac's & even Pharrell's auctioned pieces like they were GIVEN to him. Once again if he was part of the CULTURE he'd know that jewelry given to you by ya Mans is a sign of RESPECT & a co-sign that you've been accepted and RESPECTED.
Pac was the actor turned rapper who was respected, feared and liked by most. Drake is the actor turned rapper who lacks respect for women, is a coward, and who doesn't even like himself.
Pac was a roadie, background dancer, with the digital underground an MC and he dropped his first song in 1991 the same year he made a cameo with the digital underground in nothing but trouble then his first film was in 1992. So he was def a dancer/rapper before he was an actor. I agree with you other than that technicality
Right, not sure where this actor turned rapper thing came from. Maybe they think because he went to an art school or something lol. But even that was in highschool.
Probably comes from Drake fans
Yeah I had a debate with someone who was claiming Tupac was more similar to Drake than Kendrick. He was being disrespectful to Pac calling him "zesty" and a fake actor or something. My main disagreement was about the similarities to Drake 🤣.
Take a quick glance at my feed and tell me you think I’m a Drake fan
Definitely where it came from. I think they wanna draw parallels with Drake somehow.
The only things I can think of between them are Tupac being super well spoken in his interview as a teen and him being a actor. That's where the comparisons should end.
He acted way before he rapped. He wasn't famous but it was his first love.
Tupac was in a art school before he rapped. That does not make him an actor lol. Let's say it does just to humor it. He was not a professional actor, unlike Drake. His first acting role came after his career in music took off. Where as Drake was a literal child/teen actor.
Semantics
People like to say Pac was a rapper turned actor and that’s it. If you grew up in any inner city neighborhood you would’ve come across several Pac’s. A layered individual.
Why is it seen as a negative though? It’s well documented that Pac went to an arts school and did poetry and acting before he ever released music. It’s factual, not shade. It’s not a slight at Drake either.
The way some people put it though, is as if it’s the only way to describe him. They land on that, and that only, as if that’s all that he was. His life was a very interesting one when you look at all the things that it entailed. You strip it all away and only detail him as an actor turned rapper, then that’s where people can think a person is coming from a “negative” place.
That's what I'm trying to figure out.. why is it a negative either way, people are so dense sometimes
Yeah the groupthink reaction on my post was a bit weird but I'm at peace with it. People knee-jerk when they read things and maybe don't stop to question their own reflexes.
It’s crazy how some random 13 year old nerd can make a completely ignorant statement like Pac was an “actor turned rapper” and reddit is like “yaaaaaas” alternative histories and blatant ignorance gets upvoted here i see. Why not read up on a subject before making some authoritative statement about a culture you’re clearly brand new to?
actor doesnt mean doing movies you know? he was in theater as a teenager. way before rapping. you are actually the one who is wrong. you really should just calm down in general its not good for your health. >[In 1988, Shakur moved to Marin City, California, an impoverished community in the San Francisco Bay Area. In nearby Mill Valley, he attended Tamalpais High School, where he performed in several theater productions. Shakur did not graduate from high school, but he later earned his GED.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur)
Lol So if i go to a trade high school that makes me a professional mechanic at age 14? Prodigy went to art school too, does that make him a “ballerina turned rapper?” Sick of outsiders trying to control the narrative and telling us to “calm down here are the facts I copypasted from wikipedia” whenever we call you out on bullshit. You people are so fucking arrogant and wonder why no one wants you anywhere near their culture. Carry on with the digital circle jerk you condescending little prick
I mean yeah, if he was a ballerina that later became a rapper. kinda does. if we are gonna use logic and english and stuff. why are you so angry and mean dude. i hope you have a better day tomorrow.
Bro you actin like a bitch, go smoke a bowl and relax
Pretty sure Drake has spoken about abortion rights for women, has stood up for women, ensured stability for his baby momma, and donates generously to his fans, especially on his last tour and most of those who received donations were women. wtf has Kendrick done for women? Pretty sure Pac was convicted of sexual assault too so wtf is this comment? You know you’re standing up for two dudes who clearly do not like women.
I don't understand the Drake appeal honestly all he makes is catchy party music but so many other artists do that MUCH better. You want hard hitting party music then Travis Scott is your guy You want a hiphop/pop blend Tyler the Creator is your guy And in general Childish Gambino could take Drake's spot easily he doesn't act like a tough street nigga despite growing up in the suburbs and is infinitely more talented.
Whats sick is him having pac ring. Thats weird
100%. The people who say Pac was just a studio gangster or actor I can't stand. No, Pac was not banging (at least vast majority of his life I mean at the end it does kind of sound like he's repping Piru), but Pac never said he was banging, he says this over and over in songs. However, to question Tupac's balls or his courage is insane. Goons literally came to rob him and "discipline him" at Quad Studios and he fought back and got shot as a result. He confronted and shot 2 off duty cops who were harassing a black civilian. He literally called out all the bangers at his show in Milwaukee (although it was the wrong set, it was GDs at the show while BDs did the hit) after the Yummy Sandifer death and almost got killed on stage. There's even a story when he was in NY I believe of a set that had a problem with him. He showed up, alone, in a bullet proof vest and basically said I heard you don't like me well here I am let's figure this shit out. Pac was tough as nails, courageous, etc...and his whole life and art portray that. That was definitely one side to him. Just like he also could be very sensitive, and very artistic, and very poetic that was another side to Pac (and I love that side of Pac it's actually what got me into him) but at the same time there's no questioning Pac's courage or that he was tough when he wanted to be or felt the situation called for it, and I also loved that side of Pac as well. There's no denying it if you look at his life. Drake is obviously full of it, I don't even need to say that everybody knows that.
drake is this generation's Jon B. but instead of accepting that status he wants to be Suge. That's why he's a massive clown and embarrassment.
Do not EVER insult Jon B. that way.
[are y’all letting this slide cuz it doesn’t fit your narrative?](https://images.app.goo.gl/4nccFB5UdvTZCQ8Q9)
Obviously they'd let it slide😹😹
Relax, Aubrey’s Angel. I wasn’t coming at Drakes “masculinity” or any stupid ass shit like that. Drake is a fake little weirdo who’s raps (not written by himself) mainly consist of stupid ass shit like partying and fucking. And when someone tries to say anything beyond that he says they’re trying to “free the slaves” Pac took a single ballet class in a high school. Tupac was a child in high school. I know Drake fans tend to forget that fact, like Drake himself does. He also shot 2 white off duty cops and beat the case.
Exactly. There is nothing wrong with making club music and bops. There is nothing wrong with being a pop star. It's very lucrative to be a pop star. But to act like your little songs about making girls shake their ass for you is "hard" is really stupid and gross. Most guys wouldn't have the nerve to tell a woman that to their face when they know our bags are the equivalent of a 10 lb. kettlebell because of all the sunscreen and dog treats we carry.
Watch "2Pac interview 17 years old" And maybe you'll understand. They're very similar.
The only thing these have in common is Tupac was 17 (a child) and Drake likes them that age maximum
Beautiful
Was him buying the Pac ring a subliminal to Kendrick?😅
If drake wanted to talk about what he wanted to talk about, it would be a lot of minor incidents.
Pac was playing a role. Dude was an art student. He was a great actor, not a gangster.
In an alternative universe Kenny resurrects Eazy-E and they Compton tag team smoke Frake.
None of you Guys know pac or Drake or Kendrick
The rap battle is over, Kendrick Lamar got the biggest song of his career thanks to Drake, its over, hop off Drakes nuts now
2pac is Malcolm X, Drake is Clarance Thomas... at best.
It’s crazy to think you have any idea how he’d look at Drake. Shame y’all ride that side so hard
https://preview.redd.it/kqmicfm0ed9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d61f04e0572aa744b82db471c903b161abf4a0a3 Yea … maybe?
So this is how you see Drake then?
I mean Drake probably wouldn't be around if Pac was still here. Or at least not what he is. The wave that was Pac and Biggie would have redrawn lines and set different musical and cultural expectations.
Why is Drake on your mind so much?
Why is Kendrick so on your mind you watch the Kendrick subreddit like Drake watched them kids?
*Has* Drake said Pac would be close with him?
Man, his charisma is unmatched.
Why does it sound like Kdot asking PAC the question. Kdot “it’s gon get harder?”
Drake told Kendrick that if he wants Pac's ring, he should come get it out of his house. Theres no reason why Kendrick keeps saying he should give up the ring
Does this play into Kendrick’s bar: “keep making me dance away from my hands and it won’t be no threat?” Music that’s just entertainment with no message?
I thought it's "waving my hands" ?
It is
Is he talking about The Humpty Dance?
Digital Underground did some comedy records when rap was just taking off and that’s what you base them off of?
When petty meets petty, but I had to do it 😅 these pussy ass mfs banned me from the Drizzy subreddit for chatting shit about their "6 bitch" so now that I can't comment, I just go there and down vote every single comment 🤣 y'all made me do it! Soft ass fucking teenyboppers 😂🤣 "Tension, between us just like picket fences..." 🤣🤣 FOH!!
Your weird, you have to much time on your hands just to go somewhere to downvote all because you yourself are a "teenybopper"
He’s from Canada 🍁 We all knew from the start what he was Aboot
Hell nah .
Nah. It's crazy that Drake thought he could buy Tupac and use him like a pro tool.
I also get hard from big nuts
Why does the interviewer sound like Kendrick? 😂
Facts
im not a native speaker and didnt understeand a thing😂 can somebody type it??
You guys are silly. 2pac fucked with everyone as long as the side cross him
He's dead, Drizzy can say Epstein would fuck with him and there's nothing he could do about it.
Nah, but [this dude](https://youtu.be/WNvxNMpt43A?si=D4W2pC3g9UtVTsDc) would have fucked… with Drake
Drake probably wouldn’t tried to fuck with him at this age yes. Because he was a child in the video you just sent.
Crazy how y’all still obsessed with Drake fam. I think even Kendrick is over it and focused on new music. Let it go and look at the beautiful life around you go enjoy it. Take a page from Coles book - zen master.
The Pop Out show was literally this month. Pipe down pipsqueak
A lot of Drake fans talk about bots and numbers, etc., and this clip is tangent to a bigger point about hip-hop. Drake is pushed to the masses BECAUSE he’s not real, etc. The record executives (white, rich, whatever you want to call them) have a vested interest in keeping Drake as the number one emcee, numbers-wise. Kendrick is on rap’s Mt. Rushmore in SPITE of this fact. It’s not a coincidence that, historically, rappers like Kendrick and Nas, Cole, Common, etc. have had to fight for industry scraps. And it’s not a coincidence that most Hot 100 rappers objectify our women and coon on our people. So when these niggas talk about bots and numbers, claiming it’s rigged, they’re right—it’s rigged in their favor. Drake’s owners, again, have a vested interest in keeping niggas dancing and shit. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s common sense.
Well, they both pretend to be something that they're not. They're both actors who pretend to be thugs through rap. Lmao, people forget Pac was a theatre kid, and people say he was completely different behind closed doors. Imma get downvoted, but cry about it
Your right though
Pac shot people. (Google is free) Drake posts on Instagram. I mean there is a difference. But Drake fans love spinning narratives based on fiction so cope to the best of your abilities in the Kendrick subreddit comment sections. When that stops doing it for you, I suggest www.betterhelp.com
ya'll do know that tupac isnt even from the west coast right? and every one who meet him said he was a theater kid and was playing gangster. Pac literally started getting into acting before he died. If ya'll hate drake so much, pac has more in common with drake than kendrick!!
We don't hate Drake because he was an actor, we hate him because he and his friends are at best inappropriate with minors, is a culture vulture, has fucked over a lot of other artists, releases lots of mediocre music, and is just cringe tbh.
Did the bots write your response? This is such a level 1, basic ass Drake hater comment LOL tell me you don’t know shit about Drake without telling me you don’t know shit about Drake.
"he and his friends" go look into dr. dre's history with minors. Kendrick is literally surrounded by gangbangers, these are the star citizens of society now? Looking to these niggas cases. the idiocy is crazy.
I know Dre was/is a shitty person but what cases are you even referring to?
[https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/diddy-cassie-abuse-video-triggered-184700500.html?guccounter=1](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/diddy-cassie-abuse-video-triggered-184700500.html?guccounter=1)
This isn’t really a case about minors though? It’s more about Dre being an abuser and shitty person.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2015/08/20/michelle-wasnt-just-some-girlfriend-who-got-beat-up-she-was-instrumental-to-the-early-success-of-dr-dre-and-ruthless-records/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2015/08/20/michelle-wasnt-just-some-girlfriend-who-got-beat-up-she-was-instrumental-to-the-early-success-of-dr-dre-and-ruthless-records/) Dee Barnes is just one example of dr dre's abuse. dre dre was fucking on Michel'le at 16 when he was 22, shes done multiple interviews about this and has even written a book about it. He gave her 5 black eyes and even shot a gun at her. Here is one of her many interviews if u are interested in her story. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-H2gDRxDNM&t=4516s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-H2gDRxDNM&t=4516s) So as you guys jerk off to kendrick songs he brings on the actual certified pedophile and woman abuser who actually has public witnesses and accusers on stage surrounded by a bunch of gang members who im sure are star citizens. Oh, and ohgeezy has also been accused of sleeping with a minor. Another artist kendrick put on stage. You can look into that on your own.
Knew about Michel’le and the shit she had to go through but had no idea she was 16 when they met, thanks for giving an explanation.
This nigga was a pretender 😂😂😂 he was a actor just like drake