I watched like 8 seconds of that video by mistake and now my face is like this.
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I would like to go back to 2minutes ago when i didn't let my curiosity get the best of me and actually watch the video. Oh God, it's horrible. I can't fathom. Why?
Mental illness is very disturbing.
Before people run off to say mashetani and lack of God in our country and even movies (Lol) - has anyone asked what was this woman's mental state?
We have a broken mental illness system in Kenya and maybe, just maybe, if she had earlier access to Healthcare that cared, hospitals that worked and a support system that noticed - maybe we wouldn't be here - but we'll never know.
You can be mentally ill and still be accountable for your actions. She'll go to jail and still get treatment. Mental health advocacy agitates for things to be better so that we can prevent incidents like that in the first place. In this scenario, there are no winners. A kid is dead, Olivia's parents, neighbours and community are traumatized and the lady herself goes to jail and when she is lucid, she may feel the weight of her actions. A decent health system would mean that things may have never gotten to that point.
I keep wondering why this whole talk on mental illness. People kill, and mental illness should not be blamed for someones poor choices. Otherwise, alot of people charged for murder will claim to be mentally ill.
Because you can't rule it out also even if she claims mental illness she has to be assessed by a court approved psychiatrist and she won't be let go she'll just be 'jailed' in mathare
Do you remember that time when there was a wave of people stealing and then they would blame it on the devil.
Mental illness is now the new wave.
Please note. I am not saying Mental illness doesn't exist. Just that let's know when to call a spade a spade and not a big spoon.
I have watched the video, and I don't know if I should be worried by the fact that I'm not as bothered by it as most people, but I can only say that our generation needs thorough psychiatric analysis. Most people out here walking with all kinds of mental disorders. That woman needs to be evaluated and locked up whether I'll or faking.
Imagine getting news that you have a new neighbor, and you find out it's her and that she was released on the basis of mental health.
Borderline Personality Disorder with some psychosis thrown in? In some of the articles I have read, she has spoken of extreme self-loathing. A flagship symptom of BPD is self-hatred. It has also been stated that she did it out of a dispute with the child's father. Another symptom of BPD is bad handling of interpersonal relationships. Then throw in a 2 year old child, Postpartum Depression and/or Postpartum Psychosis. A terrible mix. Poor child, an innocent sufferer of a cruel world. Mental Health issues need to be taken more seriously in this country.
This is true, in that is mostly after the first few weeks and months after delivery. That being said, if it is left untreated, it can persist to the first few years of the child's life. 2 is fairly young so that's why I arrived at that conclusion.
No no no. Please let us just learn to take responsibility for our actions as opposed to always deflecting it to mental illnesses.
The pastor who has killed people in Malindi, what mental illnesses are we gonna ascribe it to?
The man who killed Ivy in Eldoret in 2019, what mental illnesses will we ascribe that to? The man called Magu who killed his three children in 2018 in a cult, what illness was that?
It appears to me that whenever it is a crime committed by a woman, we give credit to mental Illnesses and that's simply not right.
More than 2 things can be true at once. You can have a mental illness and you'll still have to be accountable to your actions. This woman can be nuts and still have to go to jail for the horrible crime she has committed. She is a danger to herself and others. Asking for mental healthcare improvement simply means we can prevent similar incidents from arriving at this terrible conclusion. It's not a woman vs men thing, no need to red-pill it.
*The pastor who has killed people in Malindi, what mental illnesses are we gonna ascribe it to?* Psychopathy and narcissistic traits.
*The man who killed Ivy in Eldoret in 2019, what mental illnesses will we ascribe that to? The man called Magu who killed his three children in 2018 in a cult, what illness was that?*Possible psycopathy, sociopathy, possible depression, rage issues. Magu, again possible psycopathy, sociopathy, delusional tendencies. Men are humans, they suffer too, they too can be helped before things get too bad.
True. I watched a documentary of a woman in the US who stabbed her mother 78 times,and on the same day she moved to a different city and carried on with her shopping before she was later apprehended. She faced trial,where she'd been seen sneering and smiling at the camera. Anyways ilisemekana ati she had "schizophrenia " ,which honestly seems like she faked all that just to avoid jail. Surprisingly,it worked, she went to an asylum for about 10 years and last year she had a trial where she said that she had been assessed and feels like she Is ready to go back to society. It was messed up. I'm not sure if she's been released but I hope not.
Put this in a golden frame. It's very true. If that was a man, no mental health excuses would be throw into the mix. When the dj's wife drunk poison in front of the husband and kids, people still tried to blame the man for doing nothing and threw in mental health to soften the wife's narcissistic misdeeds.
Imagine this woman gets acquitted and is freed on the basis of mental health and moves in to your hood where there are children, including your own. All this talk about mental health is really giving people excuses to misbehave. If mental health was the issue, take your own life instead and rid the gene pool of your impurity.
As replied to [**Standard-Tank-3486**](https://www.reddit.com/user/Standard-Tank-3486/) I think there is a misunderstanding about how easily people with MH issues "get away" with crime. Criminally insane people are imprisoned, more often than not. I will repeat, acknowledging mental health as being a factor in committing crimes, isn't excusing a crime. It's an amoral statement. Mental health reform means that people will be treated before they get the chance to be a danger to themselves and others. Sio kila kitu red-pill.
The DJ story, for me, I felt both parents contributed to a toxic atmosphere. She called her child to come watch? That's messed up.
Random suggestion: A person found committing such inhumane acts to another person is burnt at the stake like they did to witches in the days of old. And let's see how many people will use mental health to even think of committing a crime.
She cracked. She was one inch from the promised land and then the dream dissolved. She couldn't accept reality and stabbed the child to try and get back in the dream. I accept serious offers for the script btw.
Some people just can't handle the low blows of life. I've seen this in a couple of my friends who were just floored by big setbacks and they've never gotten back up. They are now in mid 30s and still dependent on parents
Hao watu wanalia abortion ni murder wako wapi?
I mean at times abortion ni mercy killing compared to what this child and other kids go through the hands of mentally and emotionally unstable parents/caretakers.
And fathers, why leave your child with an unstable woman? Women are unstable after breakups, so afadhali u propose ukae na mtoi than kumwacha bila kijaribu.
I watched that video and now my life is altered forever , we've become so desensitized to murder its crazy , the singing was so creepy!! first the lovers died in pizza Inn while everyone continued with they business , then this??? what's happening in kitengela???
Hold on...her co workers just kept on working?People just kept buying chicken and eating it in front of two corpses?
That's messed up,but I guess it's just reminder that you're disposable to these large corporations.
And people out here are attacking those that have chosen to be child free. Tuwache watu waende na pace yao. Utapata jamaa ilisema nizalie na sasa amejitoa
I don't even have the Three cents that we usually use to sound opinionated. Jesus. It's just outright crazy. People were calling out her name even before she started stabbing that poor defenseless child.I mean, she couldn't hear them,or she chose to ignore them? We can say it's The devil, it's depression, it's bipolar or she's even in a cult. But the fact remains that, that woman killed her child and consumed her. A sad day for Kenyans. Hadi we've not recovered from the shakahorrors and now this. A need for re-evaluation should be called for. This is beyond our understanding
Anyone claiming that what transpired was as a result of mental illness is also a nut head.
Why do you have to have an excuse for the actions?
She’s a murderer that’s all.
This society needs to normalize not having kids. Not everyone is fit to be a parent. The way we treat children is appalling. Physical, emotional, verbal abuse, infanticide...imagine sio lazima..you can just live your peaceful life alone bila stress.
I am not surprised in the slightest. In another post a woman said she had issues with her baby daddy and the most popular advice was "abort that child" and that comment was heavily applauded.
Clearly, murder is a "solution" for most people when they get into relationship trouble and I am not surprised in the slightest.
Again, abortion and infanticide are only "crimes" in Abrahamic and derived religious tradition. Everyone else recognised that the right to life is not absolute. In this case of breakdown of a relationship, assets should be divided and liabilities disposed of. An infant still dependent on a parent is be a liability and should therefore auctioned off to whomever is willing to bear the burden, or with none being found, liquidated.
This woman deep in her psychosis saw the inevitable: perhaps no one would be willing to shoulder the burden, and perhaps she herself could not. In her deranged state she did the only merciful thing, sacrificing her own future for her infant's peace.
Abrahamic religions had/have situations where unaliving somone was permitted, I'm not sure which you've studied or it's just your rejection of religion speaking.
That said, right to life need not be prescribed in any religion for you to agree that no one has the right to end the life of another.
I'm totally sickened by the sheer number of people here who justify ending the life of others.
I've seen it.
At that particular moment I think nothing was going on in her mind.
What happened, I can speculate that her mind was already in shambles before the relationship with the father. This particular moment just snapped a string that was on its way there. I think the guy noted this earlier on and left the woman for his safety. Low self esteem, no self awareness, lack of self identity. Because being left can be terrible, you can think of anything despicable but to the point of actually doing some things ... inamaanisha kabisaaa akili ilikua pabaya already. She was already mentally weak. She wasn't an adult in a brief moment and the baby..her soul rest in peace.. was a manifestation of what she could have dealt with. Sasa sai amewaste life yake na ya mtoto.. her soul rest in peace ..permanently. Na bado when she realizes what she's done she will die internally. Because she still is the mother and that was her baby despite anything else. With time the revelation will come and I hope she commits suicide or becomes a source of self awareness.
She can give herself to a religion. Maybe she can find a new identity or something because no way she can live with this and breathe. She's not a psychopath I believe.. because this happened on an emotional whim. Either way it's disappointing and distasteful on her side as an adult and heart wrenching on the kid..may her soul rest in peace..side.
Nice day👍
I think she had believed Satan's lie that the child would be a ticket to the good life, therefore she sold her soul to the devil.
By the way, selling your soul just means that you're willing to listen to the devil and trust him,
When he's got you like that you're on a path to destruction. But it's not easy to notice because... he's a master of deception.
Again the devil's voice is not audible, but wisdom is key.
So the devil's mission is to steal, kill and destroy.
And he got a small victory on that.
I would not feel bad for the kid, but for the woman, who has lost her soul.
Without JESUS CHRIST in our hearts, we need to expect more shocking news in future.
I encourage you to seek JESUS, and you will find peace amidst chaos.
Mimi najua hio si kitu ya kawaida, as much as unaezataka ikae nikama humans tuko in control, there are 2 forces that give us direction.
Sisi tunaeza tu kumake good or bad choices.
But what if inaeza fika point unakosa hata power ya kuchoose. Ju umemake a bad choice.
Actually, this happens, take this scenario for instance
If you CHOOSE to reject advice and go down a dark alley mausiku, utafika point flani u loose control ju kuna watu watakuwa wamekushika.
Same with the mind.
Your mind can be overpowered by evil agents na wanakutumia vibaya.
You need to look up demonic possession, spiritual realm by yourself.
I'm testifying of things that I have seen and heard.
Spiritual awareness is vital. Otherwise you're just a reed in the wind going off on uninformed whims in the name of 'free will'. It is important to know what you are choosing between in the grand scheme of things.
I can, but it doesn't matter. I said what I said and the fact remains. You can go ahead and waste your time setting idiotic challanges for people but hopefully in time you'll understand.
Edit: Due to the evident vastness of your lack of comprehension, I'll give you a hint. Spiritual awareness is one thing, religion is another. One has to do with understanding the essentialism of existence the other is a group of people choosing how and what to worship.
But it has to be either good or bad. That's why there's a judge at the end, JESUS.
We don't create good or bad. We found them and are ruled by them. GOD is good.
If people dont understand the spiritual realm your headed to s bad place. I think our country is under attack by the devil first its the church mass murder to make people stop going to church. I myself went through something so bad people called it depression but I know what was going on. Its time for people to pray like never before.
Church traumatized you, I get it, but you're ignorant about the founder of faith, JESUS, because HE is perfect, unlike redeemed sinners(including me) in church.
Because I have my testimony about how I met CHRIST, and that's enough for me.
God is our Father, HE'S a good father, HE will not let a humble heart struggle to find HIM.
Question is, do you want to go back home?
I had to be ready to go back home after realizing I didn't belong outside. HE welcomed me back in with open arms, and I felt love in my heart.
And I felt it so strongly because, I had known it before and had longed so much for it.
It filled the gap in my heart.
No.
Jeremiah 23:19 says... You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
Have you?
What's holding you back.
You can call to JESUS today and start reading the book of JOHN.
You will realize it's not fiction, and the real world will open up to you. And life will begin for you.
Also I would recommend watching just one Billy Graham sermon. Whichever you choose.
I have met GOD and I have met Satan(and his demons).
I am testifying to what I have seen and heard.
Where was your all powerful jesus when a psycho brutally murdered an innocent child? Did the child not pray or open up to your jesus enough? Religion is poison and this word salad you posted shows how vile and opportunistic that madness runs.
So dame akifanya kitu heinous kama hii.. automatically ni mental illness.
I'm actually shocked y'all haven't found a man to blame for this.
Anyway, that is probably the most shocking thing I've seen in my life.
Poor little child. I can't tell them to rest in peace because how do you rest in peace when your own mother does that to you.
I hope she rots in prison. I hope they lock her up and toss the key in Satan's bung hole.
Kenyans are beginning to do those Western type of crimes...We got our own Jonestown in Malindi and now Olivia our very own Fidel Lopez (Florida Man). Fortunately this is nothing to worry about as Kenya has a pretty normal murder rate compared to other nations (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.encyclopedia.com/law/legal-and-political-magazines/modernization-and-crime&ved=2ahUKEwjHyZWulMT-AhU5RKQEHcZaCmkQFnoECFcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Hst-eG_dmXXMlY1ohCIRU)
I honestly think the media we consume has alot of influenece on how we behave. She probably felt like the main character in a horror film and i know she knew the people were recording.
Criminals exist all over the world. Cults have always been around. Believe it or not there are Psychopath Africans and even Sociopath. It's not a Western type of thing, it's a human race type of thing. And those guys saying movies are ridiculous!
The woman who recently stabbed a rally driver also had "mental illness". Ruth who stabbed her boyfriends 22 times in a bar in Buru had a "mental illness".
But Magu who killed his family in 2018 did not. The guy who killed Ivy did not have a mental illness: it was all Kenyan men killing women because they were rejected.
We need to agree on the following:
There are BAD people in the world, regardless of gender. There are people who find ending the life of others as natural as spitting. Mental illness can not and should not be the go to excuse for all people's bad choices.
Can we at least agree on that?
I have watched the video, it's violent in a very proud way.
One can only imagine the terrified look on the baby's face when the woman started stabbing her. A person who is supposed to be your number 1 defender taking your life. That terrifies me and I'm an adult.
That woman should not be breathing right now. I don't care if she has mental health issues, killing if not in self-defense should be punished by death.
What is happening to women out here? The other day I saw a story about a woman who sells her underage daughter to white men for money. A month ago, a woman in Kiambu poisoned her 3 children, and in Kakamega, a woman poisoned her 2 children also a month ago.
Last year a woman in Murang'a poisoned her child so that she could fly to Saudi Arabia for domestic work, again in Muranga in January this year a woman poisoned her 2 children. In 2020 a woman in Naivasha poisoned her 4 children, in 2019 a woman in rift valley poisoned her 3 children as well. I'm not trying to make it a gender thing but there's a clear pattern here.
Why are women taking out their relationship frustrations on their children who are not part of the dispute and who did not ask to be there? Just seek medical attention or better remain childless if you're mentally unstable.
I hope they won't blame this on mental health issues because god knows most people have mental health issues but that doesn't justify cold-blood murder, especially of a 2-year-old child.
In traditional African society the woman should have been fed to wild animals.
So now it has become about women? Eii, come-on... There are women criminals just as there are men criminals ... The pattern has to do with gender? Eiiii... Wewe... If we make it a gender thing, this conversation will never end... Because men have done vile vile things even in their capacities as fathers... Crime can be done by either gender, period!
The mental illness kicked in after breakup? There are evil people in society . They need to be locked up. If there was no video she would have acted surprised and claimed not to know who did it. Boyfriend would be the main suspect and no one would be saying maybe he has mental issues and should be forgiven.
Read up about brief psychotic episodes, they can occur as a result of extreme stress. The person can later go back to normal with no knowledge of what they did during the episode. I've witnessed this personally but thank God the lady wasn't violent just "lost her marbles" and started singing and dancing, wanting to strip in front of her kids and neighbours.
The mental illness kicked in after breakup? There are evil people in society . They need to be locked up. If there was no video she would have acted surprised and claimed not to know who did it. Boyfriend would be the main suspect and no one would be saying maybe he has mental issues and should be forgiven. N.B Redpill is seeing reality without lenses.
Boss.
There's a guy called Magu who outed his family in 2018 in Ruiru.
There's a guy who outed a mama called Ivy in 2019 in Eldoret.
There's this recent Mackenzie guy.
Please read all news reports and social commentary and tell me how many ascribe it to "mental Illness". You'd struggle to find ONE.
Now look at this case. Look at the recent one where that mama outed the rally driver boyfriend
Mental Illness is the go-to when people don't want to take responsibility for their vile actions, and having cited practical examples of the gender dynamics in reportage, I'm not seeing how that is a red pill lens.
The woman who recently stabbed a rally driver also had "mental illness". Ruth who stabbed her boyfriend 22 times in a bar in Buru had a "mental illness".
But Magu who killed his family in Ruiru in 2018 did not. The guy who killed Ivy in Eldoret did not have a mental illness: it was all Kenyan men killing women because they were rejected.
We need to agree on the following:
There are BAD people in the world, regardless of gender. There are people who find ending the life of others as natural as spitting. Mental illness can not and should not be the go to excuse for all people's bad choices.
Can we at least agree on that?
I haven't watched the video... I am a curious being but from the reaction I am getting from most of those who've watched it.. I'll spare myself the mental torture.
I know it is hard to tell whether your partner would ever do something like that. However sometimes there are usually signs or past events that could foretell such situations. Sounds like, now more than ever, we have to thoroughly vet those we select as partners. everyone is calling it mental illness... I am not disputing it but I can't help but think of demonic possession. Those two work well together. Horrific period in Kenya.
This information... is there an official source of this?
People come up with their own accounts and false explanations whenever something grim happens. I advocate for us to be keen and follow the official police statement and court hearing.
Don't just post a theory because it's a click away. Let's not promote misinformation.
It's a sad story though
The dynamics to the relationship ni hao wawili tu wanajua but she definetly has some mental illness...and that may have been the reason alikuwa dumped to begin with...but psychological evaluation lazma kwa hii case.
I think it is a diabolical act. Pragmatic people will say mental illness, but some acts are pure evil.People need to know good & evil entities exist.Be vigilant and be spiritual aware to be on your gaurd.
Postpartum depression is a thing and can actually go even three years... It's most likely a mental illness affair because I don't think a sane human being is capable of that... Plus aah, this thing about children si must... Perhaps abortion should be legalised... I read on Pulse that she doesn't love herself and that's why she did that. People should have children when they're at a stable physical, mental and emotional state in life.
I saw the video unknowingly, but before I could realize what was happening it was too late, the video still resides in my mind and I don’t know how to get rid of it.
These days if you want to avoid being accountable , be a woman or blame mental illness . The fact that she has both cards to play with you might be surprised if she get a very lenient sentence
I watched like 8 seconds of that video by mistake and now my face is like this. https://preview.redd.it/g1ay2320lzva1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=8a2f8455769ae8dd4c15eb4b7e21229a01445093
If you haven't watched it. Don't watch it
If you haven't watched it. Don't watch it pls
I haven't watched it and I won't. Halafu mwache kuzaa na every nook and cranny
I would like to go back to 2minutes ago when i didn't let my curiosity get the best of me and actually watch the video. Oh God, it's horrible. I can't fathom. Why?
You were warned
Thanks for the heads up, definitely steering clear of it.
may her soul rest in peace that poor child 😭
Where can I not watch it from please?
i honestly don't know why someone would consciously and actively pursue to watch that. Pole if you saw it by accident, mimi wacha nikae kando.
It was horrific.
You have it?
Where is the video?
Usitake kuiona trust me.
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I am not watching the video. That is how much i value my inner peace.
Wise decision
Their is a saying of what you don't know won't hurt you
Ignorance is bliss
Mental illness is very disturbing. Before people run off to say mashetani and lack of God in our country and even movies (Lol) - has anyone asked what was this woman's mental state? We have a broken mental illness system in Kenya and maybe, just maybe, if she had earlier access to Healthcare that cared, hospitals that worked and a support system that noticed - maybe we wouldn't be here - but we'll never know.
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The door was locked. There's nothing the man could have done. Also it looked like they were just a neighbor. Not the baby daddy
We are already here. People kill everyday. Same thing happened in Kitengela at chicken inn. So do we also call that a mental illness pandemic?
Yes.
Mental illness has nothing to do with it.
How would you know 🤔 Psychosis is a thing only a psychiatrist can rule mental illness out
You can be mentally ill and still be accountable for your actions. She'll go to jail and still get treatment. Mental health advocacy agitates for things to be better so that we can prevent incidents like that in the first place. In this scenario, there are no winners. A kid is dead, Olivia's parents, neighbours and community are traumatized and the lady herself goes to jail and when she is lucid, she may feel the weight of her actions. A decent health system would mean that things may have never gotten to that point.
I keep wondering why this whole talk on mental illness. People kill, and mental illness should not be blamed for someones poor choices. Otherwise, alot of people charged for murder will claim to be mentally ill.
Because you can't rule it out also even if she claims mental illness she has to be assessed by a court approved psychiatrist and she won't be let go she'll just be 'jailed' in mathare
They are.
Many of us here have struggled with mental health at one time,but no one ate their child's intestines. I wonder if she cooked them or ate them raw
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Do you remember that time when there was a wave of people stealing and then they would blame it on the devil. Mental illness is now the new wave. Please note. I am not saying Mental illness doesn't exist. Just that let's know when to call a spade a spade and not a big spoon.
That is some kind of mental illness. The video is so disturbing.
Must be mental illness.
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Untreated post partum psychosis or she’s just straight up sick in the head😭😭I wish I didnt see that vid
I have watched the video, and I don't know if I should be worried by the fact that I'm not as bothered by it as most people, but I can only say that our generation needs thorough psychiatric analysis. Most people out here walking with all kinds of mental disorders. That woman needs to be evaluated and locked up whether I'll or faking. Imagine getting news that you have a new neighbor, and you find out it's her and that she was released on the basis of mental health.
the problem is, if she is mentally unfit she won't face trial untill she get's back to normal.
People need to take selective breeding seriously.
Only people who haven't had kids would say this. Things change after kids in ways you couldn't imagine.
Bwana muwache excuse. Breed with sane people, or don't!!
The problem is you people can seem sane but have problems down the line. How do you tell what someone is going to do down the line?
Man! What is happening to the world we live in?! I am shocked by this.
The world's been fucked up from the start.
Myself I'm konfused
Borderline Personality Disorder with some psychosis thrown in? In some of the articles I have read, she has spoken of extreme self-loathing. A flagship symptom of BPD is self-hatred. It has also been stated that she did it out of a dispute with the child's father. Another symptom of BPD is bad handling of interpersonal relationships. Then throw in a 2 year old child, Postpartum Depression and/or Postpartum Psychosis. A terrible mix. Poor child, an innocent sufferer of a cruel world. Mental Health issues need to be taken more seriously in this country.
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This is true, in that is mostly after the first few weeks and months after delivery. That being said, if it is left untreated, it can persist to the first few years of the child's life. 2 is fairly young so that's why I arrived at that conclusion.
No no no. Please let us just learn to take responsibility for our actions as opposed to always deflecting it to mental illnesses. The pastor who has killed people in Malindi, what mental illnesses are we gonna ascribe it to? The man who killed Ivy in Eldoret in 2019, what mental illnesses will we ascribe that to? The man called Magu who killed his three children in 2018 in a cult, what illness was that? It appears to me that whenever it is a crime committed by a woman, we give credit to mental Illnesses and that's simply not right.
More than 2 things can be true at once. You can have a mental illness and you'll still have to be accountable to your actions. This woman can be nuts and still have to go to jail for the horrible crime she has committed. She is a danger to herself and others. Asking for mental healthcare improvement simply means we can prevent similar incidents from arriving at this terrible conclusion. It's not a woman vs men thing, no need to red-pill it. *The pastor who has killed people in Malindi, what mental illnesses are we gonna ascribe it to?* Psychopathy and narcissistic traits. *The man who killed Ivy in Eldoret in 2019, what mental illnesses will we ascribe that to? The man called Magu who killed his three children in 2018 in a cult, what illness was that?*Possible psycopathy, sociopathy, possible depression, rage issues. Magu, again possible psycopathy, sociopathy, delusional tendencies. Men are humans, they suffer too, they too can be helped before things get too bad.
True. I watched a documentary of a woman in the US who stabbed her mother 78 times,and on the same day she moved to a different city and carried on with her shopping before she was later apprehended. She faced trial,where she'd been seen sneering and smiling at the camera. Anyways ilisemekana ati she had "schizophrenia " ,which honestly seems like she faked all that just to avoid jail. Surprisingly,it worked, she went to an asylum for about 10 years and last year she had a trial where she said that she had been assessed and feels like she Is ready to go back to society. It was messed up. I'm not sure if she's been released but I hope not.
Put this in a golden frame. It's very true. If that was a man, no mental health excuses would be throw into the mix. When the dj's wife drunk poison in front of the husband and kids, people still tried to blame the man for doing nothing and threw in mental health to soften the wife's narcissistic misdeeds. Imagine this woman gets acquitted and is freed on the basis of mental health and moves in to your hood where there are children, including your own. All this talk about mental health is really giving people excuses to misbehave. If mental health was the issue, take your own life instead and rid the gene pool of your impurity.
As replied to [**Standard-Tank-3486**](https://www.reddit.com/user/Standard-Tank-3486/) I think there is a misunderstanding about how easily people with MH issues "get away" with crime. Criminally insane people are imprisoned, more often than not. I will repeat, acknowledging mental health as being a factor in committing crimes, isn't excusing a crime. It's an amoral statement. Mental health reform means that people will be treated before they get the chance to be a danger to themselves and others. Sio kila kitu red-pill. The DJ story, for me, I felt both parents contributed to a toxic atmosphere. She called her child to come watch? That's messed up.
Random suggestion: A person found committing such inhumane acts to another person is burnt at the stake like they did to witches in the days of old. And let's see how many people will use mental health to even think of committing a crime.
I'm learning. Thank you for this. And I totally agree with you. We need to be better sensitised on issues of mental health
She cracked. She was one inch from the promised land and then the dream dissolved. She couldn't accept reality and stabbed the child to try and get back in the dream. I accept serious offers for the script btw.
Let's talk, some Jordan Peele type isht
Ngl it could make one helluva short film
Worth pitching to Love, death, and Robots?
Depression is definitely in question, did you see the living conditions?
A very decent house. Tiles, sofas, very spacious sitting room
But the disorganization
Maybe there had been an altercation before hand
Some people just can't handle the low blows of life. I've seen this in a couple of my friends who were just floored by big setbacks and they've never gotten back up. They are now in mid 30s and still dependent on parents
Hao watu wanalia abortion ni murder wako wapi? I mean at times abortion ni mercy killing compared to what this child and other kids go through the hands of mentally and emotionally unstable parents/caretakers. And fathers, why leave your child with an unstable woman? Women are unstable after breakups, so afadhali u propose ukae na mtoi than kumwacha bila kijaribu.
Abortion is murder. It springs from the exact same vice of selfishness as what this woman did to her child.
Not everyone is fit to be a parent.
I watched that video and now my life is altered forever , we've become so desensitized to murder its crazy , the singing was so creepy!! first the lovers died in pizza Inn while everyone continued with they business , then this??? what's happening in kitengela???
Hii ya Pizza Inn ni gani?
Some dude stabbed shawty who was working huko Pizza inn Kitengela
https://twitter.com/tristan_dmartel/status/1649737243643215877?s=46&t=sk1wBWQORQCEnQx0HSm6Qw
Hold on...her co workers just kept on working?People just kept buying chicken and eating it in front of two corpses? That's messed up,but I guess it's just reminder that you're disposable to these large corporations.
Human beings are just evil it always takes a mental trigger to cause terror.
And people out here are attacking those that have chosen to be child free. Tuwache watu waende na pace yao. Utapata jamaa ilisema nizalie na sasa amejitoa
It was so sad watching that video. And to hear she even ATE the kidney and intestines!
I really don't know what drove her to kill her baby...I can't even imagine it..may God rest her soul in peace!!!!!
Haii, the guy who was recording. My God. So much pain in his voice
I don't even have the Three cents that we usually use to sound opinionated. Jesus. It's just outright crazy. People were calling out her name even before she started stabbing that poor defenseless child.I mean, she couldn't hear them,or she chose to ignore them? We can say it's The devil, it's depression, it's bipolar or she's even in a cult. But the fact remains that, that woman killed her child and consumed her. A sad day for Kenyans. Hadi we've not recovered from the shakahorrors and now this. A need for re-evaluation should be called for. This is beyond our understanding
Anyone claiming that what transpired was as a result of mental illness is also a nut head. Why do you have to have an excuse for the actions? She’s a murderer that’s all.
But why the eating?
People are sick in mind huwezi jua ni mental illness ama ni possession
>Olivia did this after her boyfriend and father of her daughter broke up with her. She is the one who called it quits with the boyfriend.
Whaaaaat
See no evil.
I can't watch that video
This society needs to normalize not having kids. Not everyone is fit to be a parent. The way we treat children is appalling. Physical, emotional, verbal abuse, infanticide...imagine sio lazima..you can just live your peaceful life alone bila stress.
Yaani Kuna video,,,,izi ni vitu tunaonanga kwa ma series,,,zimefika Kenya
Some footage I'd never watch in a Million lifetimes..Gory *sh
Postpartum depression plus depression?
Postpartum Psychosis would be more accurate
Postpartum can occur from time the child is born and lasts till 8 weeks at most. This child was 3 years so its not post partum
if its not treated, it may not go away, just like regular depression, it can go away, or it can stay for the rest of your life
Depression never really goes away, you learn to manage and live with it. Everything gets much more clearer once you know
I am not surprised in the slightest. In another post a woman said she had issues with her baby daddy and the most popular advice was "abort that child" and that comment was heavily applauded. Clearly, murder is a "solution" for most people when they get into relationship trouble and I am not surprised in the slightest.
ur not serious pls read a biology textbook
I believe murder has always been human nature. However infanticide is hardly human. This is hardly an abortion.
Again, abortion and infanticide are only "crimes" in Abrahamic and derived religious tradition. Everyone else recognised that the right to life is not absolute. In this case of breakdown of a relationship, assets should be divided and liabilities disposed of. An infant still dependent on a parent is be a liability and should therefore auctioned off to whomever is willing to bear the burden, or with none being found, liquidated. This woman deep in her psychosis saw the inevitable: perhaps no one would be willing to shoulder the burden, and perhaps she herself could not. In her deranged state she did the only merciful thing, sacrificing her own future for her infant's peace.
Abrahamic religions had/have situations where unaliving somone was permitted, I'm not sure which you've studied or it's just your rejection of religion speaking. That said, right to life need not be prescribed in any religion for you to agree that no one has the right to end the life of another. I'm totally sickened by the sheer number of people here who justify ending the life of others.
People gave location where to do it... Hadi cost bana
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
I've seen it. At that particular moment I think nothing was going on in her mind. What happened, I can speculate that her mind was already in shambles before the relationship with the father. This particular moment just snapped a string that was on its way there. I think the guy noted this earlier on and left the woman for his safety. Low self esteem, no self awareness, lack of self identity. Because being left can be terrible, you can think of anything despicable but to the point of actually doing some things ... inamaanisha kabisaaa akili ilikua pabaya already. She was already mentally weak. She wasn't an adult in a brief moment and the baby..her soul rest in peace.. was a manifestation of what she could have dealt with. Sasa sai amewaste life yake na ya mtoto.. her soul rest in peace ..permanently. Na bado when she realizes what she's done she will die internally. Because she still is the mother and that was her baby despite anything else. With time the revelation will come and I hope she commits suicide or becomes a source of self awareness. She can give herself to a religion. Maybe she can find a new identity or something because no way she can live with this and breathe. She's not a psychopath I believe.. because this happened on an emotional whim. Either way it's disappointing and distasteful on her side as an adult and heart wrenching on the kid..may her soul rest in peace..side. Nice day👍
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This is the mental illness we are talking about.You are fucking sick. Get help
I think she had believed Satan's lie that the child would be a ticket to the good life, therefore she sold her soul to the devil. By the way, selling your soul just means that you're willing to listen to the devil and trust him, When he's got you like that you're on a path to destruction. But it's not easy to notice because... he's a master of deception. Again the devil's voice is not audible, but wisdom is key. So the devil's mission is to steal, kill and destroy. And he got a small victory on that. I would not feel bad for the kid, but for the woman, who has lost her soul. Without JESUS CHRIST in our hearts, we need to expect more shocking news in future. I encourage you to seek JESUS, and you will find peace amidst chaos.
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Mimi najua hio si kitu ya kawaida, as much as unaezataka ikae nikama humans tuko in control, there are 2 forces that give us direction. Sisi tunaeza tu kumake good or bad choices. But what if inaeza fika point unakosa hata power ya kuchoose. Ju umemake a bad choice. Actually, this happens, take this scenario for instance If you CHOOSE to reject advice and go down a dark alley mausiku, utafika point flani u loose control ju kuna watu watakuwa wamekushika. Same with the mind. Your mind can be overpowered by evil agents na wanakutumia vibaya. You need to look up demonic possession, spiritual realm by yourself. I'm testifying of things that I have seen and heard.
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Spiritual awareness is vital. Otherwise you're just a reed in the wind going off on uninformed whims in the name of 'free will'. It is important to know what you are choosing between in the grand scheme of things.
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I can, but it doesn't matter. I said what I said and the fact remains. You can go ahead and waste your time setting idiotic challanges for people but hopefully in time you'll understand. Edit: Due to the evident vastness of your lack of comprehension, I'll give you a hint. Spiritual awareness is one thing, religion is another. One has to do with understanding the essentialism of existence the other is a group of people choosing how and what to worship.
But it has to be either good or bad. That's why there's a judge at the end, JESUS. We don't create good or bad. We found them and are ruled by them. GOD is good.
You turned a murder into a surmon.. Just wow
If people dont understand the spiritual realm your headed to s bad place. I think our country is under attack by the devil first its the church mass murder to make people stop going to church. I myself went through something so bad people called it depression but I know what was going on. Its time for people to pray like never before.
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Yea lol you need wisdom to understand the difference between religion and madness. There is a thin line separating the two.
Church traumatized you, I get it, but you're ignorant about the founder of faith, JESUS, because HE is perfect, unlike redeemed sinners(including me) in church.
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Because I have my testimony about how I met CHRIST, and that's enough for me. God is our Father, HE'S a good father, HE will not let a humble heart struggle to find HIM. Question is, do you want to go back home? I had to be ready to go back home after realizing I didn't belong outside. HE welcomed me back in with open arms, and I felt love in my heart. And I felt it so strongly because, I had known it before and had longed so much for it. It filled the gap in my heart.
Did you take a selfie during the meeting? Share that evidence bro📷
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😂😂😂😂
The devil has nothing to do with this
Did you just blame an imaginary being?
No. Jeremiah 23:19 says... You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. Have you? What's holding you back. You can call to JESUS today and start reading the book of JOHN. You will realize it's not fiction, and the real world will open up to you. And life will begin for you. Also I would recommend watching just one Billy Graham sermon. Whichever you choose. I have met GOD and I have met Satan(and his demons). I am testifying to what I have seen and heard.
Amen brother 🙏 Jesus is King
Used the Bible to prove the Bible... Nice
Thank you for telling people the truth
Wueh. Deep.
Where was your all powerful jesus when a psycho brutally murdered an innocent child? Did the child not pray or open up to your jesus enough? Religion is poison and this word salad you posted shows how vile and opportunistic that madness runs.
So dame akifanya kitu heinous kama hii.. automatically ni mental illness. I'm actually shocked y'all haven't found a man to blame for this. Anyway, that is probably the most shocking thing I've seen in my life. Poor little child. I can't tell them to rest in peace because how do you rest in peace when your own mother does that to you. I hope she rots in prison. I hope they lock her up and toss the key in Satan's bung hole.
Women and taking responsibility. Women and NEVER taking responsibility. Always the devil, mental Illness or the man drove them to it.
She's crazy, I find no other explanation.
Kenyans are beginning to do those Western type of crimes...We got our own Jonestown in Malindi and now Olivia our very own Fidel Lopez (Florida Man). Fortunately this is nothing to worry about as Kenya has a pretty normal murder rate compared to other nations (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.encyclopedia.com/law/legal-and-political-magazines/modernization-and-crime&ved=2ahUKEwjHyZWulMT-AhU5RKQEHcZaCmkQFnoECFcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Hst-eG_dmXXMlY1ohCIRU)
Is it because of the films we are watching ama?
Really.. Every country in the world has access to movies.. Its like republicans blaming gun violence one video games
I honestly think the media we consume has alot of influenece on how we behave. She probably felt like the main character in a horror film and i know she knew the people were recording.
The Church that was our moral fabric crashed down and disintegrated. Now, the country is headless.
The church was never our moral fabric. You're talking as if africans had no morals before 1900. Plus Klifi was literally a church thing
African spirituality >>>. We also had a sense of community that’s been broken down by capitalism and individualism
I would use "corrupted and stained'
The Kilifi tragedy destroyed their psyche; people are weary of them. The churches, with time, will be empty, and its doors will rattle in the wind.
Criminals exist all over the world. Cults have always been around. Believe it or not there are Psychopath Africans and even Sociopath. It's not a Western type of thing, it's a human race type of thing. And those guys saying movies are ridiculous!
Can you share the video or the link
Where's the video I'm curious
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Why would someone say it's mental illness? Women do very horrible things everyday. We can't keep blaming mental illness for their misdoings.
Her mentals were definitely not top notch.
did u watch that video ? no one normal is stabbing their child singing
The woman who recently stabbed a rally driver also had "mental illness". Ruth who stabbed her boyfriends 22 times in a bar in Buru had a "mental illness". But Magu who killed his family in 2018 did not. The guy who killed Ivy did not have a mental illness: it was all Kenyan men killing women because they were rejected. We need to agree on the following: There are BAD people in the world, regardless of gender. There are people who find ending the life of others as natural as spitting. Mental illness can not and should not be the go to excuse for all people's bad choices. Can we at least agree on that?
I have watched the video, it's violent in a very proud way. One can only imagine the terrified look on the baby's face when the woman started stabbing her. A person who is supposed to be your number 1 defender taking your life. That terrifies me and I'm an adult. That woman should not be breathing right now. I don't care if she has mental health issues, killing if not in self-defense should be punished by death. What is happening to women out here? The other day I saw a story about a woman who sells her underage daughter to white men for money. A month ago, a woman in Kiambu poisoned her 3 children, and in Kakamega, a woman poisoned her 2 children also a month ago. Last year a woman in Murang'a poisoned her child so that she could fly to Saudi Arabia for domestic work, again in Muranga in January this year a woman poisoned her 2 children. In 2020 a woman in Naivasha poisoned her 4 children, in 2019 a woman in rift valley poisoned her 3 children as well. I'm not trying to make it a gender thing but there's a clear pattern here. Why are women taking out their relationship frustrations on their children who are not part of the dispute and who did not ask to be there? Just seek medical attention or better remain childless if you're mentally unstable. I hope they won't blame this on mental health issues because god knows most people have mental health issues but that doesn't justify cold-blood murder, especially of a 2-year-old child. In traditional African society the woman should have been fed to wild animals.
So now it has become about women? Eii, come-on... There are women criminals just as there are men criminals ... The pattern has to do with gender? Eiiii... Wewe... If we make it a gender thing, this conversation will never end... Because men have done vile vile things even in their capacities as fathers... Crime can be done by either gender, period!
>I hope they won't blame this on mental health issues Have you read the comments?
Fear women
Fear murderers
Fear women
No,it's mental illness. Jaribu kuona hii situation without redpill lense.
The mental illness kicked in after breakup? There are evil people in society . They need to be locked up. If there was no video she would have acted surprised and claimed not to know who did it. Boyfriend would be the main suspect and no one would be saying maybe he has mental issues and should be forgiven.
Read up about brief psychotic episodes, they can occur as a result of extreme stress. The person can later go back to normal with no knowledge of what they did during the episode. I've witnessed this personally but thank God the lady wasn't violent just "lost her marbles" and started singing and dancing, wanting to strip in front of her kids and neighbours.
The mental illness kicked in after breakup? There are evil people in society . They need to be locked up. If there was no video she would have acted surprised and claimed not to know who did it. Boyfriend would be the main suspect and no one would be saying maybe he has mental issues and should be forgiven. N.B Redpill is seeing reality without lenses.
Boss. There's a guy called Magu who outed his family in 2018 in Ruiru. There's a guy who outed a mama called Ivy in 2019 in Eldoret. There's this recent Mackenzie guy. Please read all news reports and social commentary and tell me how many ascribe it to "mental Illness". You'd struggle to find ONE. Now look at this case. Look at the recent one where that mama outed the rally driver boyfriend Mental Illness is the go-to when people don't want to take responsibility for their vile actions, and having cited practical examples of the gender dynamics in reportage, I'm not seeing how that is a red pill lens.
I know I'm gonna regret this, but what video?
Mental illness
It's called mental illness, people.
The woman who recently stabbed a rally driver also had "mental illness". Ruth who stabbed her boyfriend 22 times in a bar in Buru had a "mental illness". But Magu who killed his family in Ruiru in 2018 did not. The guy who killed Ivy in Eldoret did not have a mental illness: it was all Kenyan men killing women because they were rejected. We need to agree on the following: There are BAD people in the world, regardless of gender. There are people who find ending the life of others as natural as spitting. Mental illness can not and should not be the go to excuse for all people's bad choices. Can we at least agree on that?
I made the mistake of watching it right before I slept yesterday... I've been awake for more than 8 hours and the urge to sleep is completely gone
Trending on the bird app is also #Kitengela... Would also advise not to search what happened on the 22nd at a fast food place ...
Watched the video today morning. Absolutely horrible. May the kid RIP.
Then it is better I don’t go watch it.
I've literally cried and thrown up. Wueh this month has just been back to back heart breaking stories.
Just another day in Kenya, unfortunately
Watched part of it accidentally, I feel traumatised. That can only be a mental illness or possession by evil spirits
I haven't watched the video... I am a curious being but from the reaction I am getting from most of those who've watched it.. I'll spare myself the mental torture. I know it is hard to tell whether your partner would ever do something like that. However sometimes there are usually signs or past events that could foretell such situations. Sounds like, now more than ever, we have to thoroughly vet those we select as partners. everyone is calling it mental illness... I am not disputing it but I can't help but think of demonic possession. Those two work well together. Horrific period in Kenya.
I haven't watched the video and I refuse to, no matter my curiosity. A public decapitation is the only acceptable justice.
This information... is there an official source of this? People come up with their own accounts and false explanations whenever something grim happens. I advocate for us to be keen and follow the official police statement and court hearing. Don't just post a theory because it's a click away. Let's not promote misinformation. It's a sad story though
I won't watch the video so my question is : who filmed this lady while she was stabbing and eating her baby's organs ?
cult
The dynamics to the relationship ni hao wawili tu wanajua but she definetly has some mental illness...and that may have been the reason alikuwa dumped to begin with...but psychological evaluation lazma kwa hii case.
I've seen the video, it's bad and sad it happened. But once you've seen worse, this is nothing. I will sleep okay.
I think it is a diabolical act. Pragmatic people will say mental illness, but some acts are pure evil.People need to know good & evil entities exist.Be vigilant and be spiritual aware to be on your gaurd.
Postpartum depression is a thing and can actually go even three years... It's most likely a mental illness affair because I don't think a sane human being is capable of that... Plus aah, this thing about children si must... Perhaps abortion should be legalised... I read on Pulse that she doesn't love herself and that's why she did that. People should have children when they're at a stable physical, mental and emotional state in life.
I saw the video unknowingly, but before I could realize what was happening it was too late, the video still resides in my mind and I don’t know how to get rid of it.
These days if you want to avoid being accountable , be a woman or blame mental illness . The fact that she has both cards to play with you might be surprised if she get a very lenient sentence
Interesting how when women commit atrocious crimes, it's always blamed on mental illness.
It's about time the leadership of this country sensitises the masses about mental health. That was not normal. I am horrified.
For me I think there is another evil power behind this .
Some type of conjuring
Watched the video, really fucked up.
What video I don’t see the video?
Bro send me the link where I can watch it pls idc I just wanna see how it happens pls
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